Gossip site, Radaronline, is reporting that American Idol is reaching out to former contestants, asking them to get involved with the show’s 12th season:

According to a source, Taylor Hicks, Carrie Underwood, Adam Lambert, Clay Aiken and a few other former Idol folks have received calls from FOX.

“Idol is reaching out to try and gauge the interest of former contestants coming back on the show to participate in some way,” the insider revealed.

“They wouldn’t necessarily be in judging positions, but the show wants them involved.”

There have been reports that Adam Lambert is being considered for one of the vacant seats on the judges’ panel.

A couple of years ago, all the Idol winners participated in a promo for the show. The campaign, featuring all the winners in their hometowns, hit a nostalgic note with fans, reminding them how Idol can take a young hopeful and turn them into a star.

While Idol may have been snubbed by Emmy this year, it’s got something newbies on the block like The Voice may never have, a 10 year plus history of alums who are working steadily in the showbiz world. Whether they are superstars like Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson, or staying constantly busy like Taylor Hicks, Idol has an impressive roster of graduates who have made their mark in music, film and theater.

While the Voice could barely give their Season 1 finalists the time of day during the run of season 2, American Idol brings back not only the winners, but many past finalists to perform on the show. It’s one of the reasons why Idol alums generally remain grateful to the show, rather than bitter.

  • Anonymous

    Very interesting, if true.

  • windmills

    They wouldn’t necessarily be in judging positions, but the show wants them involved.”

    I like this idea. Feature multiple alums not in a regular judging spot but as guests in different capacities, mentoring or otherwise.  I like this idea a lot.

    Unfortunately it’s coming from Radar which is not a usual source of legit leaks and not a reliable source. I hope it’s something AI ends up doing. Use the history and diversity of your alums to your advantage AI! Like MJ says it’s 1 of AI’s 2 big advantages over other shows (the other being focusing on the actual, generally superior talent) – WERK that nostalgia!

  • Anonymous

    Totally support this. More involvement of the former contestants would be the best idea that AI could have. 

  • Anonymous

    A good idea. but please NO Lambert on a judge’s seat or in any task in which he’d be in the show every time. I want to continue to watch AI.

  • pj

    Good move by Idol if true.  I know I would enjoy seeing the past contestants have a role.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    A strategy to pull back the hard-core fans; it will certainly work and help to boost up the ratings. 

  • http://twitter.com/jhgebel James Gebelhardt

    I don’t want to see any of the alum to have a judging role.. but a mentoring role would be awesome.  Work it, Idol!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I wanna see Chris D & James co mentor on the rock theme week.

  • http://twitter.com/fourrats Sherry

    I love this idea.  Who better to lend mentoring, support, advice about the business than people that have been through the grueling process.  Not sure how I feel about Lambert on the judges panel either.  He certainly has a lot to offer in interpreting songs and teaching how to feel a song and presentation.  I guess I’d like to see him more hands on with the contestants than judging.  I might like to see Clay on the judges panel.  I think he’d be honest and smart, but he has a real warmth about him too.  Hope they work this all out.  Might just crawl into a fetal position if there is no more American Idol  :(

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice to have the past top 3′s help some of the contestents prepare each week and especially the chaotic last three weeks … If you listen to the  final three (Josh,Jess, Phil) things got so crazy that fateful decisions were just made by the seat of their pants … no thought really put into anything because it was so crazy … Maybe having the top six start working with Scotty, Lee, Crystal, Haley, etc to think and plan for  the last three weeks might produce better competition at the end …

  • Anonymous

    Every single successful long running reality show on air has dipped into the All-Stars well. For various reasons we all know that won’t happen on Idol but it makes sense that they see the value in showcasing contestants from the past that the audience already knows and loves in various roles. However, I’m skeptical FOX would buy in to that angle is how to compete with the glitz of Xfactor. It’s sad Idol is chasing a show that has worse ratings and many of it’s own problems. I think it’s the Simon factor, he truly was the only star of the show and they are scrambling. So let’s hope that more Idol alums really do show up more often.

  • Anonymous

    I think it would be cool to bring back 1-2 alums per week to work as mentors or in some other behind the scenes capacity. These are people who not only know what it is like to be on Idol, but how to deal with what comes after you get off of the show, no matter what level of success you end up having. They could provide a lot of valuable insight to the S12 contestants.

    ETA – I do see the possibility of fan wars, though, if some winners or runners-up are not at least approached

  • Anonymous

    I think it would be a great idea to get those who were standouts during their season likes the aforementioned, Carrie, Kelly, Jennifer, Adam, Taylor and Clay, to get back involved with the show and it’s contestants. The show has certainly helped the contestants, why not give the former Idols a chance to give back. 

  • justmefornow

    Great idea! Could be called “Shocker Rocker’s Week”.  lol

  • Anonymous

    FINALLY the bell goes off for Idol execs (if true). This is something they should have been doing years ago. They started to go off-course the minute they began to bring in ‘outside people’ to perform and mentor on this show.  I’m not talking about mentoring legends like Stevie Wonder, Barry Manilow and Rod Stewart, but some of the newer people they were bringing in were a mystery as to what they were actually bringing to the able, besides a ‘name’.  I say bring back to winners and success stories on Idols past to bring the nostalgia and real insight they could bring to the table for the new crop of kids. Could bring back a percentage of viewers they have lost in recent years.

  • windmills

    tigervixxxen: However, I’m skeptical FOX would buy in to that angle is how to compete with the glitz of Xfactor. 

    I agree with that, but this doesn’t have to be the move primarily aimed at competing with glitz of other shows. It can be a move designed to freshen up the show and appeal to a certain set of people, and they can go after their superstar names to compete on the glitz level. Not to say I necessarily approve of competing for glitz (IA with you that’s kind of dumb to chase shows with lower ratings), but if they’re going to, I’d like them to make smart supplementary moves like involving former alums in the show in other, non-judging capacities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34307244 Shana Collier

    I bet this rumor is true.  We’ve already seen James, Scotty, etc be there for the auditions.  It wouldn’t surprise me if they involved alums later in the competition as well. 

    I think its just a matter of in what capacity.  I remember Carly and Michael Johns were involved in the Hollywood rounds one season only to end up on the cutting room floor.  

  • Anonymous

    I might like to see Clay on the judges panel.  I think he’d be honest and smart, but he has a real warmth about him too.  Hope they work this all out.

    The things you say about Clay are true.  I like him, and I like his sense of humor.  Unfortunately, I really don’t trust his taste in music.  For that reason, I wouldn’t be able to respect him as a judge.

    But I do think he’s a very warm, funny person.  I would like to see him involved in the show in some capacity.  However, I don’t know what that could be.  If Ryan weren’t there, or if they needed a secondary host, I think he’d be perfect in that role.

  • http://www.jstamers.com/ Jordan Seltzer

    Most will disagree with me, but I don’t think bringing alums on will increase ratings at all. Ratings don’t increase when they come on to perform. If they created a “second chances” season that would get buzz, but not just alums mentoring.

    This show needs new Producers period. New eyes and fresh ideas. Because at the end of the day…..if these changes don’t work and ratings fall FOX is going to let Idol go.

  • Anonymous

    I hate nostalgia. I hate people’s need to constantly be going back, in all facets of our lives. I am a fan of progress, moving forward. I don’t want this show mired in the past and constantly trying to relive past glory. That would be very sad to me.

  • Mateja Praznik

    The thing is, if they bring a lot of former contestants back to mentor, etc, won’t that hurt season 12 contestants? The viewership might increase (but not necessary by much) and former contestants that finished high would probably manage to charm the audience once again and take the spotlight off the new crop. And considering how some reports say the producers are not impressed with season 12 talent so far … Let’s say they end up with weak season 12 cast. Former contestants and new judges might be able to save show’s ratings, but at the same time the new crop might not benefit from that much.

  • Anonymous

    Finally!  I’ve been saying this needs to happen for years.  I would love to have a rotating past contestant 4th judge seat, or at least a different former contestant mentor for each week.

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    And having Adam on the judging panel would bring me back to AI full time – so I guess we’d cancel each other out.

    That being said, I think the idea of capitalizing on the wealth of experience the past Idols possess is a great idea, which is why I found it strange that it took until Season 9 to bring an Idol alum back as a mentor. Nobody understands the unique challenges faced by the competitors better than a former competitor – choosing a song and working out an arrangement, wardrobe, and staging to make the most effective use of 90 seconds of airtime. Not to mention dealing with getting critiqued in front of millions of people!

  • Anonymous

    You dont have to bring them back to just boost the ratings for that show, but if being mentored by an Idol that lived out the chaos at the end of the show made for better contestent decision at that point, and thus a more compelling finale, then the show overall would be better quality.  And having alums retun is an advantage that Xfactor and Voice dont have.

  • Anonymous

    I like the idea of having them contribute to the show in some capacity, but not as judges.  AI has done a lot of things right over the years, they have the best format of any of the reality singing competition shows, but they haven’t always done a good job of acknowledging the existence of the people who have made the show a ratings success.  The special about following all of the idols home was produced by Fox, not 19, who managed to build a whole show around saying goodbye to Simon, but never acknowledged that the ten year anniversary of the series.  

    Every single successful long running reality show on air has dipped into the All-Stars well. For various reasons we all know that won’t happen

    Simon can’t get people to watch his own show, so he wasn’t the draw. The judging panel hasn’t been interesting, but it wasn’t interesting in seasons 8 or 9 when Simon was there.

    I think that the winners would refuse to do an All Star edition, that’s already happened, and I would hope that the runners-up would also refuse. Going in that direction would mark the end of the show. AI may need to make some changes, but nothing like this.

  • Anonymous

    And having Adam on the judging panel would bring me back to AI full time – so I guess we’d cancel each other out.

    Naw, we’d still have all of those people who stopped watching after seasons one through 11, those who only watched season 8, the ones who only started watching because of Scotty, and everyone else who know in specific details what’s happening on the show, but don’t watch.

  • Anonymous

    A rotating alumni judge seat is a good idea.  I think I could take anyone judging for one week.  (Although, I could take Adam judging for the entire season.)

    Also, I remember in Season 9, when Adam mentored, I was hoping he could really help the contestants up their games — but I feared it would be too little, too late.  And it was.

    If they can see another Season 9 coming, then getting alumni to mentor early (ones they know “played the game” well) is a good thing.  Maybe they can push the contestants into a higher energy level at the beginning, when it’s easier, rather than trying to struggle against weeks of inertia.

  • http://twitter.com/gator90 Cookie Dunker

     Clay’s taste in music for himself is not the same as his taste in music for others, so I don’t see a problem with him judging. Besides, the music on AI is exactly the same as his taste, so it might be a perfect fit!

  • http://twitter.com/gator90 Cookie Dunker

    I would love to see some of the more successful alums come back, maybe in alternating judging positions. There are enough of them who have made good careers in the industry that they could have different judges each week, along with the obligatory non-AI celebrity. I’d love to see Clay and Ruben on the same judging panel, since they have worked together so successfully post-AI, and have a great relationship.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if it will increase the ratings, but i think it would increase my enjoyment of the show. At the end of the day, that’s what matters to me. I’ll let the suits worry about keeping the show on the air. I would love to hear what kind of mentoring advice various alums would give.

  • Anonymous

    That’s true, hiring big name judges and involving Idol alums doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. I was just thinking from a branding and messaging standpoint would dilute the effectiveness of using the competitive advantage Idol has in the nostalgia factor if it’s overshadowed by all the hype surrounding a big name joining the judging panel. But that’s going to happen regardless so they may as well work in some alums, which is at least a step in the right direction.

  • hcpoirot

    But if I am not wrong just few seasons ago, Idol also snub Taylor Hicks, Lee Dwyze by not asking them to sing in the next season after they win cause they had low sell in their first album. Can someone confirm this?

    Yes, Idol invite few alums who had great success but ignore those who failed to make it big.

  • Niall

    When the other shows zig, AI should zag. Let them hire the big name judges while idol mines it’s illustrious history and makes past contestants judges, mentors, etc. Personally I love the idea. It will set AI apart instead of making it look like it is copying the copycats.

  • Anonymous

    that’s incorrect. Lee didn’t appear on the S10 finale but did go on Idol earlier that season to perform his single. Taylor Hicks has been back on Idol several times since he won.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    That doesn’t leave us with many alums then. I doubt Kelly, Carrie & Chris D have enough free time to appear every week. What they should do is invite alums who have achieved success and/or recognition on some level in their chosen markets, be it a #1 hit/album on Billboard, an Oscar or a being named one of the 100 Greatest Living Rock Stars by the most prestigious heavy music publication. Not everyone chooses to work in pop or country ya know.

  • Anonymous

    But if I am not wrong just few seasons ago, Idol also snub Taylor Hicks, Lee Dwyze by not asking them to sing in the next season after they win cause they had low sell in their first album. Can someone confirm this?

    That’s a false meme that’s been passed around the bubble as fact, just like the one about idol alums who are signed with Sony not appearing on AI, because of Interscope and UMG.

    Sue said: That doesn’t leave us with many alums then. I doubt Kelly, Carrie & Chris D have enough free time to appear every week. What they should do is invite alums who have achieved success and/or recognition on some level in their chosen markets, be it a #1 hit/album on Billboard, an Oscar or a being named one of the 100 Greatest Living Rock Stars by the most prestigious heavy music publication. Not everyone chose to work in pop or country ya know.

    Most idol alums have achieved some level of success, and even if they have been successful, there’s no guarantee that they will make for an interesting television experience.

  • Anonymous

    I would LOVE to see Clay Aiken as a Judge!  He’s so articulate and has a great sense of humor.  He proved his maturity on Celebrity Apprentice and looks great on TV! 

    And IMO, he’s not as polarizing as Adam Lambert and has a more recognizable name than Taylor Hicks. I’m sure Carrie has no time for this.

  • http://twitter.com/bluinjewin Landon Cox

    Can we get American Idol All Stars next season? loooooool

  • Anonymous

    FOX: Please Call Elliott………he has always been a fan favorite. A little press could go a long way with that talent of his……

  • Anonymous

    I have thought for ages that idol should utilize its past talent pool. Up till now they have failed to emphasize the fact that many, many idol alum have gone on to sustain great careers in music and entertainment. They have never made the point that every single winner from the show is still busy in the music & entertainment field. American Idol easily has the strongest legacy from any talent show in history.

    The names mentioned in the article have one thing in common: A strong TV personality. Adam & Taylor are arguably the best live performers the show has ever had. Adam is frontman for Queen, no less. Taylor is killing in Vegas. Clay is articulate & funny, and surprisingly as we saw on Celebrity Apprentice, can be quite tough as well. And Carrie is, well Carrie. I all her successes, she has never tried to distance herself from Idol and has offered her advice to alum on a regular basis.

    I really do hope this comes to pass, in whatever capacity they may be. 

  • Anonymous

     

    The things you say about Clay are true.  I like him, and I like his
    sense of humor.  Unfortunately, I really don’t trust his taste in music.
     For that reason, I wouldn’t be able to respect him as a judge.

    But isnt that a possibility no matter who they chose. We tend to like those that like the same things we do but in the interest of variety dont you have to have some differences of opinion.

    Having the idols come on as mentors, 2 a week one for the girls and one for the boys could be interesting.

  • Anonymous

    That’s incorrect. Taylor sang on the Season 6 finale and made a mid-season appearance in Season 8.  He was also given time to plug his Vegas residency last season as well joined the rest of the winners in a group performance during the Season 9 finale (the season Simon left). I forget which season it was, but he also took part in a Beatles salute with other winners as well (I think that was Season 6).

  • Anonymous

    I vote for Clay. He’d make good TV.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is a great idea to bring back former Idols. Bringing back someone like David Cook might help bring back the somewhat lost “WTF” moments that Idol could really use right about now. It’s getting played out watching contestants perfectly aping artists to a tee with no originality, spin or take on the songs.   

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that the former contestants can change this.  This is a problem with Jimmy Iovine, Nigel, and the contestants themselves.

  • Anonymous

    I really love this idea. I kind of don’t think it’s a good idea for ANY former contestant to be a judge because, if they are critical at all I think the audience might not like it.
    Mentoring though could be great, however it should be more than just a quick thing. I would like to see the mentors help them with song choice, presentation etc. I think most of the alums would be good at that.

  • Anonymous

    I think this could be paired extremely well if they let some of the former contestants mentor for themes for the music they themselves tried/wanted to do.

    Bring back JHud for a girl group week (girl groups include the Spice girls for those wanting more recent material as well as the Supremes/Marvellettes material referenced in Dreamgirls).  Bice or James for Southern rock week.  Etc.  The AI audience recognizes some of their success/interest in that material and they’re at least as valid as mentors as some of the Interscope faces we’ve seen in the past couple of years.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Since they have to keep Jimmy happy too (the main reason he signed on was so he can promote his artists), let his cronies guest judge on the panel and let the alums mentor instead.

  • Anonymous

    I can definitely see the Idol alums coming back to be mentors

  • Kitwana

    The names Clay Aiken, Taylor Hicks and Adam Lambert seem to be the most popular choices among commenters on MJ’s. The consensus seems to be that they are well-spoken, witty and know how to put on a show. Imagine if the producers really decided to take a risk and formed a panel consisting of these three? Stranger things have happened. If this does happen, I expect to receive a commission for the idea.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see more idol alumni on the show. They should be used to fill almost all of the musical guests slots for sure it was ridiculous not to have Ruben and Casey James this past season when they had new music to promote. I would not have minded hearing what advice Ruben could have offered the RnB contingent this year. I think that he could have helped Jessica and DeAndre especially. Even Josh could have benefited.

    As for judging while Clay is articulate and funny I would not put anyone on the show who has thrown so much shade on the show and some of its contestants. Not saying one must perpetually cheerleader for the show but he’s sometimes acted as though he were more than glad it was in his rear view mirror. I never got the warm and fuzzy gibe either. I’ve heard he’s expressed interest in judging but I hope idol doesn’t bite.

    I think we are going to see a format change and that is where the idols will be utilized. In that capacity I would welcome any former idol, even Clay.

    Someone mentioned alumni being at audition sites. That happens yearly they just rarely ever show it. They should.

  • Anonymous

    Elliott and Melinda are two of the best technical singers the show’s ever seen, and Melinda’s assessments of the contestants on her clips with Michael Slezak show that she’d make a great judge.

    I’d also like to see Mandisa come back.  She’s a wonderful example of someone who’s made a great career for herself in the Christian music genre (solid sales, Grammy nominations), and Idol needs to play up accomplishments like that to show that there are career tracks outside the Top 40.

  • Kitwana

    And after Clay, Adam and Taylor, they could do another panel with Cook, Allen and Dewyze. Then do a panel with Archie, Jordin and Iraheta. Then do a panel with Carrie, Scotty and Bo Bice. Then do a panel with Fantasia, Rueben and JHud. The producers could probably assemble panels of alumni corresponding with each theme week they choose to do. Clay, Adam and Taylor could be Broadway tunes, for example. Again, I expect a commission if this happens :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3NQHPT3NA6VGKK22RCMTGOCII Tiffany

    I have always thought they should bring back past Idols.  I love to see them peerform, I buy their music, and it makes sense for the Idol brand to let them promote their music on tv.  The bigger stars they become the more Idol benefits.   If we must have one hour results night, this would be one place they could be used as they have been in some cases.  Hire Pickler to interview the past contestants on their upcoming gigs, etc.  IF we have to have filler, make it good.  Heck, I would love to see Pickler cohost in a limited capacity with Ryan.  I remember their little on screen convo about what a minx was lol. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    So then maybe Taylor Hicks will finally receive the respect he deserves in American Idol land…

  • Anonymous

    Oh please God, no Pickler…

  • DragonFly

    I’d tune in to see a favorite do most anything on tv (uh, a half hr. special–jkg,–or not?) but with the infancy of a career still on the line I don’t think they can use the possibility of headline, bad publicity of (full mentor responsibility) re. Top 10 current contestants.  People GET UGLY when their favorite contestants don’t come off good & could/would blame eliminations on the particular alum that week.  IMO Alum newbies shouldn’t be so eager to critique others.  Jimmy I. has been wrong mentoring some weeks–he can afford to take the heat & likely does.  I’ll take a fave sitting-in on mentoring & commenting ever-so-slightly but they are still only contestants fighting for themselves yet in the music bus.  I don’t see it as being worth it for them.  Love them being offered performances & shorter “what’s up” interviews with Ryan.  Always felt past judges could afford to get boo’d, they’re sitting on a bundle$$ already.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    I agree.  Clay burned a lot of bridges when he left 19Management.  He’s been very bitter about his experience.  It would be the height of hypocrisy if he suddenly wants to work for them again.   Then again, he’s got a child to take care of.

    Also, his taste is music is SOOOO old-fashioned he might as well be Betty White…no scratch that, Betty White is MUCH cooler than Clay.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    I don’t know why this wasn’t thought of sooner tbh.  The audience loves to see familiarity.  I think it’s a good idea.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t want to see that either and I seriously doubt it’s going to happen. From what the Radaronline article is saying that they reached out to a small select group of former Idols to help out in some capacity on the show. The show as usual is going to showcase those that could possibly help them and ignore the rest.

  • Anonymous

    And here’s Taylor’s comment/tweet about the Radar and Perez Hilton stories this morning… ;)

    @taylorhicks
    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/american-idol-ratings-past-contestants-new-season
    hmmm…..

    @taylorhicks 
    http://perezhilton.com/2012-07-20-american-idol-ryan-seacrest-randy-jackson-former-winner-contestant-shark-jump#.UAmpRkSlAck
    hmmmm…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Francis/100001303112302 Michelle Francis

    Great idea to bring some of the former contestants back.  I’d for sure tune in to see Kelly, Carrie, Clay, Ruben, Cook, Daughtry, Pickler.  After the first few years, I only watched it off and on so those are the ones I’m most familiar with.  Oh, and Kat McPhee, love her on Smash.

  • Anonymous

    The names Clay Aiken, Taylor Hicks and Adam Lambert seem to be the most popular choices among commenters on MJ’s. The consensus seems to be that they are well-spoken, witty and know how to put on a show. Imagine if the producers really decided to take a risk and formed a panel consisting of these three? Stranger things have happened. If this does happen, I expect to receive a commission for the idea.

    Eh.  I like all three.  I’ve expressed my reservations about Clay, but I agree that he’s well-spoken and witty.  I have no reservations about Taylor or Adam.

    But I don’t think it would work to have an all-Idol panel.  That’s a little too self-referential.  I think the combination of industry insider, popular star (or was-star) and Idol family is a good one.  For the industry insider role, since they already have Jimmy Iovine (and I agree that he’s probably best left as the Thursday-morning quarterback), maybe they should look at hiring a radio DJ.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/maria.romeo.900 Maria Romeo

    Honestly if there gonna have a past idol on the panel ALL of the judges should be a past idol.  Idol fans would go NUTS.  For 1 they know how the process is.  They dont have to be a winner they can be someone who was very memorable at least.  There are so many past idols who had great sucess in the start but now there kinda forgotten.  Get someone on the panel where they can re-establish there career and remind why american loved them years ago.  It would be great.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Maybe they’re pulling Idol alumni for the early audition rounds in the cities.  Those should be coming up real soon.  It would help them buy some time until they can line up bigger names for the judging table.

  • Anonymous

     I have said all along that one of the reasons I stopped watching is they did not support their own. At the beginning the so called “stars” would have nothing to do with the show. Then all of a sudden they realized how many would see their performances. So tired of the judges like Jlo promoting herself.

     Ruben and Clay is still the most watched final. I say bring them back and maybe the fans would watch again. If you have ever seen them perform together you can see the chemistry. Both are talented, smart and witty.

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677275924 Anonymous

    Ruben & Clay were tour buddies about a year ago. The show opener is hilarious. It is about 6 minutes long but worth every minute. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k9MRmAqxCo 

  • Anonymous

    That was funny! Loved it!

  • stargazed

    I love the idea of Clay and Ruben on  opposite ends of the judges table.  Which hot, talented gal would be the perfect fit to sit between them?

    Clay has an interesting taste in music he likes to sing, but I don’t think that limits his interest in music he enjoys from other artists.

  • Anonymous

    they are already doing that — Scotty, Haley, Casey A and James have all shown up at S12 audition sites.

    This article suggests something more than just showing up to say hi 

  • Karen C

    I think bringing the former finalists as mentors, especially winners and runners up would be fantastic for the show.  I think the contestants would really benefit from their experiences. It would also bring back fans of the former contestants that might have stopped watching, but then they might find someone in Season 12 that they like also.    I also think it would be beneficial to the former contestants themselves to be on Idol again, and as more than on the results shows, because viewers do seem to loose track of former contestants afterwards.  And actually if they did this I would like to see them as the performers on this week’s shows. 

    I also think anyone that is successful after Idol helps the show itself, so by helping to promote the former and present idols, they help the show and it’s contestants even more.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    No, I meant having them sit in the judges chair and choose who goes forward to Hollywood.

  • Anonymous

    I like this idea a lot…. Match the all-alum panel to the theme…a different flavah each week…familiar faces discussing the kind of music they’re passionate about.  This has a family feeling, and family gatherings have enormous energy!

    EDIT: On second thought… This would let the cat out of the bag…that the judges comments are scripted.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I would like to have Taylor Hicks, Carrie Underwood, Adam Lambert, Clay Aiken, Kelly Clarkson, etc. to be Guest Judges for the in person auditions and Hollywood Rounds.  Idol has these fabulous people; use them.  It wouldn’t be a huge time commitment for them. 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Seeing Adam Lambert mentoring Siobhan Magnus was a dream come true!  I often wonder what he said to the Idols off the record. 

    Idol has alums who have won Grammy Awards, nominated for a Tony, win an Academy Award, and appear in television productions.  There is a wealth of experience there that they should take advantage of.  It would certainly please the fans!

  • http://twitter.com/gator90 Cookie Dunker

    Clay has never been bitter at all about his experience on AI, in fact he often says he would do it for the rest of his life if he could. Whatever the source of this wrong information, you should not trust them again. They are way off base.

  • seashellz51

    Here’s an idea! How about 3 radio PD’s! Maybe some of the idols would get some radio play after the show was over! *sarcasm*

  • lilly924

    I agree that it would be hypocritical to have Clay back. Any alum who has gone out and badmouthed the show the way he has, having him back would actually make me stop watching the show. And if they’re trying to pull in a younger demographic, he won’t do it. He recently went on Sirius radio and completely trashed current pop music. There’s good and bad in every genre, but to be that closed minded about any genre in music, that does not make a good judge.

  • Anonymous

    It’s got to be 2 male and 1 female judges.. so.. Hicks and Adam plus one female judges.. carrie or kelly.. or melinda.. LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677275924 Anonymous

     “Whatever the source of this wrong information, you should not trust them again. They are way off base.”——————————————-

    Yea, it’s a real head scratcher. Where do these rumors come from? Also Clay’s favorite song the last time he was asked was Nikki Minaj’s Super Bass. I think people in recent years learn bad info from each other and just don’t know him at all. 

  • DragonFly

    “He recently went on Sirius radio and completely trashed current pop music. There’s good and bad in every genre, but to be that closed minded about any genre in music, that does not make a good judge.”

    This referred to C. Aiken (know little about him myself) but it could have come from anyone…. & as general a statement as it is, there are people who agree w/that.  It wouldn’t be a popular “judge” statement but I sure could see Simon getting away with it.  He trashes anything he feels like.  There have been many on here who have made similar comments about what Hits? are coming out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Francis/100001303112302 Michelle Francis

    OMG!  Thanks for that video of Ruben and Clay, they are so funny together.  Would love to see them on AI together again.

  • Anonymous

    Simon Cowell didn’t understand any musical style that happened after the 1970′s, but at the beginning he was still an entertaining judge.  His disdain for country music is well known, but people didn’t say that it meant that he shouldn’t be a judge.

  • Anonymous

    One of the most amazing returns on Idol was the night Clay came back and shocked that Michael kid singing Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me.  Here’s the hysterical video for anyone who didn’t see it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Xp2CrRSEE

  • teacup

    Please, no. I’m so sick of most of them. I feel like this is something else that will draw attention away from the competing contestants, which is the last thing the show needs. 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I loved that appearance but didn’t like Clay’s hair! 

    Personally, I felt that Idol did not promote Taylor Hick’s first album.  It would have received RIAA Platium status a whole lot earlier if they had.  I believe Simon may have had something to do with this.  I am happy he is gone.

  • Incipit

    ” Nobody understands the unique challenges faced by the competitors better than a former competitor – choosing a song and working out an arrangement, wardrobe, and staging to make the most effective use of 90 seconds of airtime. Not to mention dealing with getting critiqued in front of millions of people!”

    It’s a sure bet none of the “mentors’ for the past two years, two seasons worth of new judges, or the new judges yet to come had/have that understanding either.

    I do believe that’s where the show needs the most help, Sharon S, and has for a couple of years now. They had some good voices this year, but it didn’t translate into interesting weekly shows. Not for me, anyway.

    I think some of it is the backstage shake-up of the support staff, but mostly, it’s because of a misperception of what the judges had actually been doing, for at least seven seasons.  IMO, they aren’t there to do anything but nudge the contestants into position to Win, Place, or Show – give them critiques aimed at how to succeed On.The.Show. – not in the music market. (two different things.)

    The original judges were too far removed in time from that market to give up-to-the-minute advice, even if they wanted to – but it wasn’t their function anyway – they focused on how the performers were being perceived by the audiences – from clothes to song choice to attitude, to accompaniment, and every so often, even to vocal quality.  The newer judges since Season 8, can’t advise the contestants on what it takes to win, because They. Don’t. Actually. Know. The History of the show, the experience of what the voters like, none of it is in their skill sets.

    Jimmy and his Producer’s Posse didn’t know – they knew their own markets – but the contestant has to win over the audience first, before that intel is relevant – and none of those people knew what it took to build an Idol fanbase, the first step. They couldn’t even put together good iTunes tracks – even when that was their main focus, in Season 10.

    If TPTB is going to bring in Big Name Judges purely for their entertainment value, then absolutely yes, recruit former successful contestants to mentor, because some one has to tell the new crop what they need to know, all the things you listed, and the things to look out for, (Like when to say “No” to some of Jimmy’s bright ideas). Instead of, say Will.I.Am. pretending to mentor a rock singer on how to win the audience, for instance…someone who has the experience to advise on “Preparation and Presentation”, regardless of genre, would make a difference.

    Also. If someone could advise the Very Young People Nigel insists on casting regarding Interpretation, that would be invaluable. Or bring Byrd back. That too.

    The cast needs guidance from somewhere useful, or Season 12 could crash and burn with a bunch of Very Young People, and a panel of inexperienced figurehead judges.

    JMO. Of Course.

  • stargazed

    Your post is dead on in so many ways.   The contestants do seem to need guidance on how to sell themselves other than with their vocals.  

    I think how you present yourself is as important as your voice.  For instance, that horrible sytlist (forgot his name immediately) advised Phil to stop wearing gray and wear something  more hip.  Phil thought the suggestion was silly, continued to wear gray and won the competition.  His ignoring the silly stylist showed the audience that he does have a mind of his own and that had to count for something.

  • Incipit

    ” Phil thought the suggestion was silly, continued to wear gray and won the competition.  His ignoring the silly stylist showed the audience that he does have a mind of his own and that had to count for something.”

    Couple of things with that, stargazed. IMO. The stylist, designer Tommy Hilfiger,  was not there to help Phillip, or any of the contestants. Not like Miles Siggins used to be for the guys. Hilfiger was Product Placement, pure and simple. He had an assistant do the ‘advising’ after his Photo Ops were done. His brother was about to launch a line of clothing at Kohl’s  Department stores with an Idol theme – they even wound up using a contestant or two as models, IIRC. That’s all that was about. Cross promotion and comps, disguised as a wardrobe advisory.

    Phillip wearing, or not wearing grey was the silly part, but all of that was silly. What color shirt he wore wasn’t gonna be a factor in winning or losing. It was about the image he presented, as you say. Some people liked it, some people really didn’t. It’s probably not the wisest thing for one’s future success to alienate any part of the prospective paying public deliberately, when not directly related to one’s art -  and the color of a tee shirt is not a hill to die on. If Miles had been there, I doubt it would have even been a factor, the man is not a clothing designer, he’s a stylist, and actually knows his business.

    More to the point, Phillip ignoring Hilfiger was indicative to me that he was very very young, and had not yet learned to ‘pick his battles’…or acquired any public relations skills. Natural charm and a good upbringing are very nice things to have, but there is much to be said for self-awareness too.

    The ‘mind of his own’ is going to have to wrap itself around the Art of Compromise with his album, just as it did with his first single that wasn’t, except, it was.

    But that’s part of the shake-ups behind the scenes, although, to be fair, I believe Miles is dealing with a medical problem right now – but he wasn’t the only stylist that Idol employed to help the contestants. IDK what’s going on with that ‘feature’…that this ‘product placement’ was necessary. Many of the clothing choices last season reflected a lack. I felt like saying ‘Get Syesha in there – that girl would tell Skylar to lose the a$$ curtains, and everyone else to ditch the MOB outfits, and the Prom dresses. She has ‘performance style’ that is age-appropriate.

    Which circles back to the point. People who have ‘been there, done that” could make good mentors. The only caveat is, just because one has knowledge doesn’t mean they will be any good at teaching it. But if Idol hasn’t got the proper staff behind the scenes anymore, they’re apt to be a Big Improvement.

    IMO.

  • Karen C

    I think the advice they gave Phillip especially that week was the wrong advice for the type of artist he wanted to be, and instead of him given something that really could help him improve, it didn’t fit him so he ignored it.  It makes sense, though that there were people behind the scenes that aren’t there anymore, they were the ones that were giving the contestants advice that could take them to the next leve on the show.   Maybe that is where the former contestants can take over and help. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I also agree that Clay’s musical tastes/opinions about music and his irrelevancy in the industry would be big negatives to him mentoring or being considered seriously as a judge. Clay has shown that he’s smart and funny, with a biting, sarcastic sense of humor, but “warm” is an adjective that I would never use to describe him. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Clay has refered to watching Idol as akin to going back to high school to watch the football games, and admits to not having watched the show since Season 3. He isn’t aware of how the show has evolved, and his open disdain for so much current pop music makes him a poor candidate for a mentor or judge.