A little American Idol 12 spoiler for you…

The Top 4o leave on February 3 to go to Los Angeles. No word on when they actually head to Las Vegas.

According to FOX the Las Vegas episodes air:

Wednesday, Feb. 20

AMERICAN IDOL (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) – “Semifinalist Round, Part 1”

In a new twist, the competition moves to Las Vegas, where the Top 40 semifinalists will be split into guys and girls. Each night, 10 of the 40 semifinalists will perform and the judges will be faced with the tough decision of choosing which five will stay and which five will be sent home.

Wednesday, Feb. 20                         First Group of 10 Male Singers Perform
Thursday, Feb. 21                              First Group of 10 Female Singers Perform
Wednesday, Feb. 27                          Second Group of 10 Male Singers Perform
Thursday, Feb. 28                              Second Group of 10 Female Singers Perform

*Each episode is 2 hours long.

ETA: Live shows begin on March 5 when the Top 20 perform for your votes.

Tuesday, March 5 Top 10 Male Semifinalists Perform LIVE
Wednesday, March 6 Top 10 Female Semifinalists Perform LIVE
Thursday, March 7 LIVE Results Show; Top 10 Finalists Revealed

 
  • tomr

    Really unfair if more than 5 of the best are on the same night.  The top 10 should go on regardless.  This seems to reek of manipulation where it has been predetermined which 5 from each group will go on.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Only 10 performances/show and each show is 2 hours? Tons of filler and commercials. lol

  • Larc

    That tight schedule isn’t going to leave much time for spoilers to leak.  It could be we won’t know who all the Top 20 are until they are announced.  Takes a little of the fun out of it somehow.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    I’m sure they’ll be strategically grouped.  And I’m sure, right now they’re talking the pulse of the audience and seeing who they’re liking during the audition rounds.

  • girlygirltoo

    So it will be March until there are any live shows? Or are these Vegas shows live (just don’t have public voting)

  • julesb2183

    Las Vegas will be taped.

  • ptebwwong

    Obviously, the producers can manipulate the groups so the best contestants are on one night. However, in Idol history some of the best groups had many strong contestants & eventually went on to be strong contenders (Ex. S2: Ruben, Clay, & Kim Locke were all in the same group & the top 3 of the season, S8: Kris, Adam, Allison, Matt G. were in the same group & 4 of the top 5 that season).

    Also, it’s possible the producers put all the country/R&B guys/girls on one night. This could potentially lessen the number of country & R&B contestants in the top 10. It also could help viewers figure out who are stronger contestants by comparing other contestants in the same genre. 

  • ptebwwong

    Yes, there will be a lot of filler & commercials. I would hope that the producers do longer segments so the viewers can get to know all of the contestants since they have time. But it probably won’t happen. LOL.

  • ptebwwong

    That means the judges will be choosing the top 20. But the viewers will still vote for the finalists (top 10/12/13) right?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JC5VIWKY7SZ67OVWR2ISVCWYKY Brian

    I really wish they used the fan votes for these.  Or at least for a portion of them.  But I guess the positive is that we will see performances that we typically don’t see in their entirety…typically we don’t see full performances until it is down to 24 (or less), unless you go back to season 2 or so.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JC5VIWKY7SZ67OVWR2ISVCWYKY Brian

    After this, though, I guess we STILL get a top 20, so I wonder how that will work?  I thought I had read somewhere else (maybe in top 40 spoiler article) that the judges will choose top 10 with maybe some wildcards.  Odd that they have the top 40 cut down to 20 with live shows and STILL have judges cut the 20 to 10 after that.

  • Incipit

    So it will be March until there are any live shows?

    IDK, this year sounds like a right mess…and it has nothing to do with me until the shows are live and the audience has the option to vote. I don’t pay any attention to the rest of it, since it’s all about the fancy edits and the judges’ face time and the producers choices. IMO.

    If the audience has nothing to say until March, then I don’t watch until March. Heh. At least it will be a very short season this year. March, April, May, and we’re done.

  • Anny_nanny

    Last season we had voting from 02/28-29, if producers give us Top-12, not Top-13, schedule will not differ from the previous year. I’m OK with this schedule, I will watch YouTube until March.

  • LeahKittyS

    From what I know, yes, we vote on who makes the Top 10 (I assume wildcards will be added into the mix).

  • blackberryharvest

    I think they will choose who makes it the same night. So that will make it better.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Okay, so the singers get an additional performance round to build their fan bases before the first voting round…

    That’s more fair than making them reliant on providing drama for the camera in Hollywood, and it puts more emphasis on them as singers. And they sure do have time in the schedule for some background info on the singers.

    I dunno that I’d personally pay much attention to these episodes because I always skip everything before the voting rounds, but maybe the first night will be so amazing that I’ll change my mind. This could be done interestingly and well. *crosses fingers*

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Sometimes I wonder if the producers know what they’re doing.  I also wonder how many times they revise their plans.  I remember Nigel saying the judges will choose the TOP 10, and the viewers choose their position in the line up.  Curious as how this will work.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Maybe they will perform an actual full song that has 3 or 5 minutes…no, it’s not gonna happen. That would be too good to be true. lol

  • Larc

    Idol doesn’t want to turn control over to voters sooner than they either have to or everything will look too rigged.  But they will get rid of any they don’t want to cast in the finals before public voting starts, except for maybe some fodder they know not many will vote for.

  • inmyslumber

    There’s also the judges’ deliberations.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IDXVM7NCMXZVHX4M2RFBYOTYDA Robert

    Personally I don’t think that getting 4 less people to choose from is that big of a deal.

  • CherryPalmer

    I hope past idol contestants will get to help out the kids with their song arrangements depending on the theme each week. I think this will help everyone: the contestants coz they’ll have someone guiding them who can actually relate with them, the show coz it’ll bring back fans and viewers, and of course the past contestants coz everybody would appreciate added exposure no matter how big or small their careers may be.

    Example:
    Gender bender week where they can only sing songs by artists opposite their sex. They can ask past contestants who were known for it in the show to help the kids: David Cook with always be my baby, Kris Allen with she works hard for the money, etc.

    On rock week they can have Daughtry, Adam Lambert, etc

    Country week with Carrie, Scotty, Kellie Pickler, etc

    Soul week for Elliot Yamin, Melinda Doolitle, Joshua Ledet, Taylor Hicks, etc.

    RnB week for Jordin sparks, Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson

    Really, they have plenty of idols for every possible theme and they should utilize it! :)

  • CherryPalmer

    Oops double posted. Sorry mj, :)

  • teekee

    For me, the judges choosing the top 10 is only okay if there isn’t going to be a tour. Since the public is who attends the tour, they should have some voice in who they choose to spend their money to see. Too much power for the judges. 

  • Mateja Praznik

    This transition from semifinals to finals is one of the weak points of the format.

    Cutting 24/20 contestants down to 10-13 in just one week based on one performance and letting  the public vote just doesn’t seem a good idea. At the same time three-week semifinals in the past dragged on forever.

    Maybe it would be better if they made this stage a bit different. Give a larger group of semifinalists (up to 36) a few tasks. Up to three performances. Maybe one just for the judges (like Vegas week) and one or two for the public to vote. Then maybe some other tasks: music video shoot, photo shoot, etc. Let the judges and guest judges score their work. This way, the public would have some say who advances, but at the same time TPTB would still have things under control. Yep, this would mean more work with the semifinals stage, but it would shake up the stale format in a way.

    And having only 10 finalists actually doesn’t seem like a bad idea, considering the finals also drag on forever. With 13 or 12 finalists I always feel bad for 3 or 2 that miss out on the tour. And it’s usually the girls that get kicked off the show in those rounds. So why not just get down to 10 immediately?