American Idol 10 Hollywood Week Behind the Scenes Report

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USA Today’s Bill Keveney spent the last day of the American Idol 10 Hollywood rounds sitting in the audience watching the contestants audition.

“From what I’ve seen so far, I’d go, ‘Click,’ ” Ken Warwick told the 100 or so remaining singers, imitating the sound of a remote control. “It’s nerve-racking, I know. But get over it.”

But later he tells Keveney, “There were a couple of singers who actually came into their own that day.”

He can’t name names, so the author posts a few anonymous tidbits from the day, reflecting the nerves and enormous pressure the hopefuls must have been feeling. Check out a few after the jump. Read the rest HERE.

In another report, Warwick tells USA Today, that the judges need to “assemble a strong, diverse field”

Last year’s show was criticized for fielding finalists too similar in performing style and not big enough in personality. “It really got on my nerves last year when all of a sudden, everybody came out and hid behind a guitar,” Warwick says.

“It’s important we get the mixture right. We need the country singer, the rock singer, the middle-of-the-road ballad singer, the little-off-the-wall kid and a couple of stars. That’s the judges’ job, not to look at who they’re putting through but how that person relates in the (finalists’) balance.”

Oh Ken. You were the guy in charge last year. Take a little responsibility, will you?

  • The supplicant. “Whoo! I’m sorry,” a singer says after messing up Lee Ann Womack’s I Hope You Dance. “Can I please start over? I’m begging you.”
  • The apple polishers. “I told you my absolute biggest idol was (Lopez’s husband) Marc Anthony,” a performer says. “I hoped to get the opportunity to sing one of his songs. Last night, the song list was revised … and I saw a Marc Anthony song (You Sang to Me). God answered my prayers.”
  • Another sings Lopez’s If You Had My Love, and Lopez likes the arrangement. More than one tries Aerosmith’s I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing. “I really hope I can do it as good as you, Mr. Tyler,” a raspy-voiced young woman says before breaking into one of his songs. “Nice,” Tyler says after her performance.
  • The stellar. The judges can’t maintain their poker faces after one deep-voiced singer performs. Lopez bangs the table, Jackson has his hand up, and all three stand and clap at the end. “Unbelievable,” Jackson says. “Really great.”

 
  • samgamgee

    Funny, because in my book, the quiet, sensitive guy who hides behind the guitar is the best artist. He transcends entertainment. But I guess Idol is not really about music.

  • platoken

    The stellar. The judges can’t maintain their poker faces after one deep-voiced singer performs. Lopez bangs the table, Jackson has his hand up, and all three stand and clap at the end. “Unbelievable,” Jackson says. “Really great.”

    Omg I hope its Scotty!!

  • bjames

    When are the producers gonna realize that it doesn’t matter if the contestant is playing guitar or not? You can be charismatic, innovative, entertaining and STILL PLAY GUITAR. The problem last season is that half of the good contestants were gone at the beginning. Nobody was dynamic. The judges lacked enthusiasm, chemistry, and good critiques. The guitars were not the problem.

  • platoken

    nvm

  • tripp_ncwy

    Charity Vance (Little Rock, AR) from S9 American Idol Hollywood Week did try out again and made it to Hollywood Week S10. So, the photo debate that happened on weeks back was probably her.

    Hollywood Week hopefuls

    http://www.americanidol.com/hollywood_week/?page=2

  • koshka

    Funny, because in my book, the quiet, sensitive guy who hides behind the guitar is the best artist. He transcends entertainment. But I guess Idol is not really about music.

    So does this mean you’ll be supporting Tim Halprin this year? I prefer to listen to all the contestants first before deciding which is the best – its just how I roll. LOL ;)

  • geekygirl

    Omg I hope its Scotty!!

    Me too, that’s who immediately came to mind and I am DIEING to hear him sing something else. I LOVED his voice but would like to see if he is one trick pony, and I hate country music. But I have been going around singing that song, whatever it is. Been so curious to see what else he can sing

    More than one tries Aerosmith’s I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing.

    Dear god no, just no, please no, I want to vomit when I hear that song, cut off my ears, throw the radio/television out the window. I HATE IT SO MUCH!!! Please stop NOW, ban it and make it grounds for instant elimination if anyone attempts it. Steven, don’t encourage them!!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh Ken. You were the guy in charge last year. Take a little responsibility, will you?

    No kidding. Ken is trying very hard to blame the judges for last year’s less than stellar show. Jerk.

    Funny, because in my book, the quiet, sensitive guy who hides behind the guitar is the best artist. He transcends entertainment. But I guess Idol is not really about music.

    IMO, I don’t think that this is necessarily true. I like some WGWGs who are pretty amazing artists (James Taylor, Jim Croce, Harry Chapin), but then some other WGWGs are just guys who play guitars. There’s a range of talent, just like with other kinds of artists/singers.

  • tierbee

    *Searches for puffy paint and posterboard to make my FIRE KEN NOW sign*

  • jpfan

    There’s no way they’ll have time for 60 or even 40 people to sing.
    So basically they’ll focus on the same 15 people or so. Ken get your excuses going coz this season’s group looks as charisma challenged as last year’s crew.

    It doesn’t matter though. Idol has a loyal TV audience that really don’t care if they never hear from the contestants ever again. So selling music after the show isn’t really necessary.

  • koshka

    *Searches for puffy paint and posterboard to make my FIRE KEN NOW sign*

    LOL!

  • Kirsten

    Oh Ken. You were the guy in charge last year. Take a little responsibility, will you?

    At least he has a consistent message. “It’s never my fault”.

    *Searches for puffy paint and posterboard to make my FIRE KEN NOW sign*

    Good idea. I’m going to get some glitter for my poster. I’m going to make it look like there are real flames coming out of the word “FIRE” so that nobody misses the point.

  • dy77

    LOL Ken and Nigel seem to be providing the entertainment for S10. Although I’m starting my prayer circle for John Wayne to play guitar.

    When are the producers gonna realize that it doesn’t matter if the contestant is playing guitar or not? You can be charismatic, innovative, entertaining and STILL PLAY GUITAR. The problem last season is that half of the good contestants were gone at the beginning. Nobody was dynamic. The judges lacked enthusiasm, chemistry, and good critiques. The guitars were not the problem.

    I agree with this, although honestly I don’t know that I found that many contestants last year to be good. But the rest of it I find spot on. A serious lack of charisma and entertainment were the issue, not the guitars. There have been quite a few charismatic and entertaining guitar players on Idol.

  • webster

    I suppose it’s possible that Ken stayed out of all casting decisions, either on principle or in deference to Simon or something. But since he obviouslynthinks casting was the issue, let’s assume he’s not staying out of it this year. Not that I necessarily believe that, but it’s the only remotely rational interpretation of his comments.

    I’m not sure about the idea of making sure there’s a range of types. That can be good, if you’ve got that kind of strength. Season 5 was kind of like that. But if it’s just types, without real talent, then you just get something like AGT, and you run the risk of the audience falling in love with the quirk you let in for LOLs. I mean, I was on Team Poppycock last summer, but I don’t think that kind of act is going to help Idols relevance. Or even a lesser clown of the sort more common on Idol.

  • jumpstart

    A serious lack of charisma and entertainment were the issue, not the guitars.

    Poor guitars, they’re guilty of everything.

  • EmmaCT

    When are the producers gonna realize that it doesn’t matter if the contestant is playing guitar or not? You can be charismatic, innovative, entertaining and STILL PLAY GUITAR. The problem last season is that half of the good contestants were gone at the beginning. Nobody was dynamic. The judges lacked enthusiasm, chemistry, and good critiques. The guitars were not the problem.

    Agree, agree, agree – totally agree, period, end of story.

  • sma11ie

    “It really got on my nerves last year when all of a sudden, everybody came out and hid behind a guitar,” Warwick says.

    “all of a sudden”? From what I recalled, the guitar players they cast in the top 24 all got through after playing guitar in Hollywood week. I remember seeing Crystal, Didi, Andrew Garcia, Tim Urban, Lilly, maybe Lee all playing guitar in Hollywood week. How were they “suddenly” surprised to see them whip them out for the live shows?

    That said, I agree with everyone who said the guitars were not the problem, but charisma. Cast someone with charisma and they can accompany themselves with whatever large or small instruments and still stand out. Cast someone without charisma, take away their instruments, and they’ll “hide” behind the mike stand.

    So does this mean you’ll be supporting Tim Halprin this year? I prefer to listen to all the contestants first before deciding which is the best – its just how I roll. LOL

    How does everyone know this guy plays the guitar? I barely remember him at all. Youtubes? I mean, except for that one chick, no one’s played any instruments on the show so far, so I have no clue if we have any piano or guitar players on the show.

    I’m going to make it look like there are real flames coming out of the word “FIRE” so that nobody misses the point.

    Nice!

  • jammasta

    When are the producers gonna realize that it doesn’t matter if the contestant is playing guitar or not? You can be charismatic, innovative, entertaining and STILL PLAY GUITAR. The problem last season is that half of the good contestants were gone at the beginning. Nobody was dynamic. The judges lacked enthusiasm, chemistry, and good critiques. The guitars were not the problem.

    Because producers are idiots. Last season’s problem wasn’t just the guitars, it was the people.

    The 3 contestants I can see being a problem if the past few years is any indication (at this point) are Stefano Langone (he can be a hit with the teenage girls because he’s probably the only guy there I can see girls going “OMG HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT”, and if he sucks, hi Tim Urban), Chris Medina (pimped but not that great a singer, he could be eaten up if he doesn’t improve), and Tim Halperin (WGWG backlash).

  • tripp_ncwy

    Wasn’t it Ken that called Tim Urban to tell him he was back on the show AI9? If he wanted a little more diversity, he should have used that as an opportunity to get someone who was different.

  • Kirsten

    I suppose it’s possible that Ken stayed out of all casting decisions, either on principle or in deference to Simon or something.

    Even if he did, that’s his fault. He shouldn’t be griping about these ninja S9 contestants who surprised him by suddenly being charisma free and haunting his nightmares with guitars.

    He’s the executive producer. He’s the head dude that runs the show. It’s HIS job to put on a good show. It’s called taking responsibility. If he decided to not have a say in casting decisions and he still must blame others, he should say “I made a mistake last year and stayed out of the casting. I prefer a diverse cast and we ended up casting a bunch of kids that were the same and didn’t appeal to a wide enough audience. And that didn’t make for interesting television.” See? It gets the same point across (“Idol is going to be better next year”), shows that he takes his job seriously (“I messed up”), and demonstrates that he understand that he was not the victim of nefarious contestants (“It’s my job to put on a good show”).

    If Ken must throw somebody under a bus and he was deferring to Simon, then throw Simon under the bus. If it truly was Simon’s fault, he would actually deserve it. It’s not very professional to throw others under a bus, but Simon is a big boy with a big salary who can defend himself. Why throw the innocent kids with no power under the bus? Unless you are just a coward who is crappy at your job. Wait, I guess I just answered my own question.

  • koshka

    How does everyone know this guy plays the guitar? I barely remember him at all. Youtubes? I mean, except for that one chick, no one’s played any instruments on the show so far, so I have no clue if we have any piano or guitar players on the show.

    Honestly he appears to be more of a piano player. I remember him because I kept thinking that TPTB better have a plan to sabotage him otherwise he’ll be crowned in May. He just has that wholesome boy next door look which made my radar go up. He seems at least moderately talented. Cleaned up, he’d look like Timmy’s older cousin. Maybe we’ll shake things up with a cute piano player this year? LOL

  • Mary102

    I’m gonna be the contrarian of the thread and say I think guitars are boring, and I’m glad they’re moving away from them. Do away with instruments period and I’m fine, tbh. At least it’ll force people to work the stage more and focus more on the vocals.

    I’m not sure about the idea of making sure there’s a range of types. That can be good, if you’ve got that kind of strength. Season 5 was kind of like that. But if it’s just types, without real talent, then you just get something like AGT,

    I would almost go so far as to say, even if the talent isn’t that great, it’s better to have diversity than to have everyone great but just doing the same thing. In fact, that seems even more boring than if we have a lot of different music styles, and even a range of abilities. And then there are always those “diamonds in the rough” who start out shaky and really blossom. You always want those in the mix too.

  • koshka

    I’m going to make it look like there are real flames coming out of the word “FIRE” so that nobody misses the point.

    Nice!

    Maybe integrate some flashing christmas lights. You know those ones with battery packs so you don’t have to sit near an outlet.

  • pineappletree

    Ken is such an idiot. I didn’t know guitars were cast as an contestant last year. Those poor, poor guitars. Always getting blamed. This guy needs to man up and admit he failed big time. Again how does he still have a job?

  • koshka

    I’m gonna be the contrarian of the thread and say I think guitars are boring, and I’m glad they’re moving away from them. Do away with instruments period and I’m fine, tbh. At least it’ll force people to work the stage more and focus more on the vocals.

    Mary for as much as I think the guitars mask mediocre/poor vocal performances, I’m going to go with charisma on this one. A really charismatic person makes you forget about the instrument and you just see them. The unfortunate part is that in the past 3 years that accounts to fewer people than I can count on one hand.

  • Tess

    I guess I am the lone ranger here because I totally believe that the show, however manipulated and controlled by TPTB, is about the contestants and their ability to create excitement and interest. I totally blame the failure of Season 9 on contestants who “played it so damn safe” once they reached the stage and forgot that they were supposed to connect with an audience. So the judges may have miscast a few and resorted to a type…but season 3 was all about divas and the girls still came through and created a “show”.

    My issue with season 9 was the idolettes just had no enthusiasm…and the more they strummed their damn guitars and bowed their heads and mumbled into the mics the worse it got. The contestants were so afraid of being judged “bad”, that they were content on being just mediocre instead of trying for something outside of the box. And, yes, last year the idolettes were hiding…trying to stay in the game by staying middle of the road. And it got more and more boring.

    I love “great” guitar playing singers…give me a Hendrix, or a Mayer, or a Keith Urban, or a James Taylor. But these guys are first of all guitarists who can sing…not singers who play around with a guitar. Big diff! And so far no idolette has been able to make a guitar sing for me.

  • gangreen29

    Funny, because in my book, the quiet, sensitive guy who hides behind the guitar is the best artist. He transcends entertainment. But I guess Idol is not really about music.

    And in my book they aren’t the best type of artist. Since in your book they have to be a guy I don’t see how it is really about the music in your example either.

    I saw a ton of complaints last year that everyone was playing guitar every week. Ken isn’t forming this idea out of mid air.

  • Mary102

    Mary for as much as I think the guitars mask mediocre/poor vocal performances, I’m going to go with charisma on this one. A really charismatic person makes you forget about the instrument and you just see them. The unfortunate part is that in the past 3 years that accounts to fewer people than I can count on one hand.

    TBH, in my case it’s probably just a matter of personal taste. I never listen to the kinds of music that, say, the WGWG that come off idol typically produce. So I’m naturally predisposed to just not really get into that style.

    I actually did love Cook on AI though, but he didn’t play his guitar much, and he always skewed more rock in general anyway.

  • Mary102

    My issue with season 9 was the idolettes just had no enthusiasm…and the more they strummed their damn guitars and bowed their heads and mumbled into the mics the worse it got.

    So true! This was my biggest problem too, especially as we got to the top 3 and 4. I couldn’t even bring myself to vote for either Lee or Crystal in the finale, because I didn’t feel either really wanted it or was bringing it each week and really putting it all out there.

    That’s in stark contrast to, say, top 5 of S8, which I remember rewatching during S9, and Simon says “you all are really bringing it. You all really want this” and it wasn’t just him talking crap. You really had this sense that EVERYONE was stepping up their game, friendly to each other but still “in it to win it” and competing like they all wanted the title. That feeling is awesome. S5 really had it too imo.

  • sma11ie

    Honestly he appears to be more of a piano player. I remember him because I kept thinking that TPTB better have a plan to sabotage him otherwise he’ll be crowned in May. He just has that wholesome boy next door look which made my radar go up. He seems at least moderately talented. Cleaned up, he’d look like Timmy’s older cousin. Maybe we’ll shake things up with a cute piano player this year? LOL

    Tim Halperin is cute? Seriously? Tim Urban, yes, but Halperin? He’s not even in the top 10 of cute guys I’ve seen this season. Actually, looks-wise, the Bronx shelter guy was probably the best looking guy, but he flamed out already. Why is everyone so hung up on this Halperin guy being the next WGWG to win AI? I do not see it at all. His voice was okay, and he has zero buzz so far. And is it even confirmed that he plays the guitar?

    I love “great” guitar playing singers…give me a Hendrix, or a Mayer, or a Keith Urban, or a James Taylor. But these guys are first of all guitarists who can sing…not singers who play around with a guitar. Big diff! And so far no idolette has been able to make a guitar sing for me.

    I love great guitar playing singers too, but I don’t think you need to be the next Hendrix, or Mayer, or Keith Urban to be “allowed” to play your instrument on Idol. I mean, it was cool for me to see BoB pick up a guitar and Bruno Mars hit the drums for their Grammy performance- it made the whole thing pretty entertaining and dynamic, and yes, showed off their musicianship. But did BoB seem to be a Hendrix? No. Was Bruno Mars killing it like Dave Grohl (sorry, I don’t know many star drummers)? No. But the instruments did still enhance an already dynamic performance, IMO.

    A guitar, piano, whatever, can enhance a performance just by fitting the vibe of a song/performance. Brooke White’s Let it Be was one of my favorite performances of Season 7, and honestly, her playing on that song wasn’t virtuoso-level. She was playing a simple melody and a lot of block chords, but that performance and song embodied who she was as a musician. I loved it. There were other songs in the season where she did kind of hide behind the piano or guitar, but not for Let it Be. I just don’t think there should be this ridiculously high bar of a Hendrix or Mayer for people who choose to play an instrument. Just like choosing to use a mic stand, or clothing for your performance, or if someone chooses to dance– the contestant should be smart about his/her choice to use an instrument or not. They should think about what they’re trying to accomplish overall, and make a decision that fits the performance, the song, him/herself, and makes the whole thing interesting for viewers.

    I saw a ton of complaints last year that everyone was playing guitar every week. Ken isn’t forming this idea out of mid air.

    No one said he formed the idea out of mid air? We’re complaining that he’s shirking blame and claiming “surprise” at his own cast.

  • koshka

    Tim Halperin is cute? Seriously? Tim Urban, yes, but Halperin? He’s not even in the top 10 of cute guys I’ve seen this season. Actually, looks-wise, the Bronx shelter guy was probably the best looking guy, but he flamed out already. Why is everyone so hung up on this Halperin guy being the next WGWG to win AI? I do not see it at all. His voice was okay, and he has zero buzz so far. And is it even confirmed that he plays the guitar?

    Hung up on it? No, I just find his presence to be a funny obstacle for TPTB. Between his looks, his instrument playing and mediocre singing, he fits everything TPTB are avoiding this year – whether or not he has the talent. Actually I don’t think he is cute and he is about as flavorful as a bowl of cottage cheese.. but then again, my picks rarely win.

    Its early, early though… I don’t care what genres predominate, I just want some passion and charisma this year!! Is it really that hard to find a good-ish singer, but with a boatload of passion, personality and charism? i don’t need perfection, but I do expect some fire!

  • CanadianFan

    I think it is much better to blame it on the guitars than for Ken to admit that the contestants last season were boring as hell. Then everyone can talk about guitars rather than people.

  • LoveDaRocker

    That’s the judges’ job, not to look at who they’re putting through but how that person relates in the (finalists’) balance.

    My memory is a little hazy. Wasn’t AIS9 still a voting contest? People voted in the finalists. The judges chose the semi-finalists. A lot of good talent last year was voted out during semi-finals.

  • platoken

    coz this season’s group looks as charisma challenged as last year’s crew.

    No it doesn’t.

  • bridgette12

    gangreen29:
    02/16/2011 at 11:10 am
    I saw a ton of complaints last year that everyone was playing guitar every week. Ken isn’t forming this idea out of mid air.

    I saw the same thing last season. There were plenty of complaints, about so many contestants from season 9, were standing their clutching their guitar in a death grip, giving lackluster performances.

  • sma11ie

    My memory is a little hazy. Wasn’t AIS9 still a voting contest? People voted in the finalists. The judges chose the semi-finalists. A lot of good talent last year was voted out during semi-finals.

    Katelynn Epperly, Lilly Scott, and Alex Lambert, (was the fourth one Toddrick that week?) as much as they deserved to stay a few more weeks over a few others on the show, did not seem to have a ton of charisma either, and would not have added too much diversity to the season. The semi-finals were not cast well IMO.

  • Hazehel

    My memory is a little hazy. Wasn’t AIS9 still a voting contest? People voted in the finalists. The judges chose the semi-finalists.

    This is actually a bit confusing. In the show those in the semifinals are called the finalists. So actually the judges do choose the finalists.

  • bananafish

    Maybe a lot of the problems with last year had to do with the production Ken. Like the pathetic selection of songs the contestants could choose from, that we’ve already seen done over & over before. Or the fact that the audition/Hollywoood rounds focused exclusively on Mike Lynche/Andrew Garcia/Katie Stevens so that other contestants that could have been more interesting didn’t get the screentime to build up a following to make the Top 12. Or maybe the guy wouldn’t look like he is hiding behind his guitar if the rest of the band weren’t hidden up in the rafters.

  • Incipit

    Oh, Geebus. That tosser just doesn’t give up trying to sell his “Quel Surprise!” fabrication.

    Yeah, ‘I was shocked, shocked I tell you. “All of a sudden”, there were all these guitars, just exactly like they were playing in Hollywood Week!! How could this be? They had guitars when we cast them – and they STILL have guitars? I don’t understand! Oh, my nerves!’

    Sure. The decisions were completely out of his power. And he didn’t want to oppose Simon, because he might what? Quit? Oh wait. He already had quit – and zoned out..

    Talk about getting on my last nerve, Warwick. Quit pithing on my shoes and trying to tell me it’s raining.

  • tinawina

    Katelynn Epperly, Lilly Scott, and Alex Lambert, (was the fourth one Toddrick that week?) as much as they deserved to stay a few more weeks over a few others on the show, did not seem to have a ton of charisma either, and would not have added too much diversity to the season. The semi-finals were not cast well IMO.

    Good point. The only person who would have represented a break from the indie/folk thing they had going on was Toddrick (who was indeed eliminated that week, BTW).

    Really, besides Katie, Big Mike, Aaron and Paige.. they all could have been on stage at Coachella or Lillith Fair. Tim would have done the done the Disney version of that. :D

  • Hazehel

    Katelynn Epperly, Lilly Scott, and Alex Lambert, (was the fourth one Toddrick that week?)

    I would only put Katelyn and Alex Lambert into the finals. The thing is that every years there are people that I think should be in the finals but somehow don’t get voted in by the public. In Season 6 it was Sabrina Sloan (I think she could have won that season with better luck and songs), Season 7 it’s Alaina Whitaker, and in Season 8 I would happily swap half a dozen of those in the finals with those who didn’t make it (Ricky Braddy, Felicia Barton, etc.). What happened in Season 9 isn’t anything unusual. The problem, as you said, was the choice of contestants in the semifinals.

  • Valentin432

    I would only put Katelyn and Alex Lambert into the finals. The thing is that every years there are people that I think should be in the finals but somehow don’t get voted in by the public. In Season 6 it was Sabrina Sloan (I think she could have won that season with better luck and songs), Season 7 it’s Alaina Whitaker, and in Season 8 I would happily swap half a dozen of those in the finals with those who didn’t make it (Ricky Braddy, Felicia Barton, etc.). What happened in Season 9 isn’t anything unusual.

    Based on this WNTS editorialm it kind of is.
    They lost just one of the top 6 rated contestant before the finals in all the seasons having top 24 format, Sabrina Sloan, season 9 lost two of them.
    Since they didnt have a lot of talent that year, it was a heavy blow

  • sma11ie

    Hung up on it? No, I just find his presence to be a funny obstacle for TPTB. Between his looks, his instrument playing and mediocre singing, he fits everything TPTB are avoiding this year – whether or not he has the talent. Actually I don’t think he is cute and he is about as flavorful as a bowl of cottage cheese.. but then again, my picks rarely win.

    So far I’ve seen about 15 seconds of him singing, so he’s made close to zero impression and has little appeal to me, but if he kills it with vocals and piano, I might change my mind. Matt Giraud was my favorite in S8, and if anything, I could see potential similarities between Matt and this guy. I never found Matt particularly attractive, but this guy even less so. Oh Matt. If only he had consistently thrown down every week like he did with Georgia On My Mind, So Small, Human Nature, and from tour, Hard to Handle. Anyways. I digress. Maybe we’ll see more from this Halperin guy and see if your fears are founded, and if we’re destined for a WGWP winner ;)

  • Hazehel

    Based on this WNTS editorialm it kind of is.

    They put Lilly Scott in top 5? Geez, she is one singer I was happy not to see in the finals. Her affected indie-girl style of singing is off-putting to most people, which is why even though she got the pimp spot, she still got voted off. It is rare for those in the pimp spot to get voted off when only 1 or 2 person are eliminated, that just showed how unpopular she was. If she had been in finals it would have been an even worse season for the ratings.

  • Valentin432

    They put Lilly Scott in top 5?

    They didn’t “put” her in the top 5. Their rankings are not based on their own opinions.
    They calculate a rating after polling a number of opinions on the internet.
    People appreciated her performances but didn’t vote for her

  • sma11ie

    They put Lilly Scott in top 5? Geez, she is one singer I was happy not to see in the finals. Her affected indie-girl style of singing is off-putting to most people, which is why even though she got the pimp spot, she still got voted off.

    I agree. I go to a lot of live shows, and I see girls just like her opening small shows ALL THE TIME. And unless they are killer songwriters (which they generally are not), my reaction, 99.9% of the time, is: snooze, where’s the next act? I totally agree, Lilly Scotts in the real world are a dime a dozen. Did not understand why Kara thought she was so cool. I think Kara’s world is made up of mainstream pop acts, so maybe that’s why Lilly seemed so different to her. At least Katelynn had a good voice and good technique.

  • Hazehel

    They didn’t “put” her in the top 5.

    Oh, yes, they did. It is their methodology, and it’s that methodology that get her onto Top 5. The fact that she got voted off after being placed in a pimp spot showed that the methodology is flawed.

    This is a bit like a market research company saying, after an unpopular brand of product somehow ended up on their list of most popular brands, “We didn’t put it there, the public did.” Someone is at fault and it sure ain’t the public.

  • Valentin432

    Oh, yes, they did. It is their methodology, and it’s that that methodology that get her onto Top 5. The fact that she got voted off after being placed in a pimp spot showed that the methodology is flawed.

    Their methodology is consistent from season 1, they didn’t change that to get Lilly in the top 6.

    They aren’t trying to predict who is going to be ousted, that’s not the point of their ratings since anybody who has watched these type of shows know that the quality of the performance isn’t the only factor in the voting.
    I thought you agreed with that just 10 minutes ago by mentioning Sabrina, Alaina or half the semifinalists in season 8.

  • Tess

    but I don’t think you need to be the next Hendrix, or Mayer, or Keith Urban to be “allowed” to play your instrument on Idol.

    But this is my issue with instruments…not the playing of them but the mediocrity in the playing of them. Sorry, David A. sucks on the piano, so did Brooke, and Jason and his uke, or the guys who pull out the harmonicas…just no, no, no. Unless an instrument is an extension of the singer and the instrument is played top-notch then it shouldn’t be part of a performer’s persona…end of story for me. If someone plays and wants that instrument to be part of them they better play it better than 95% of the peeps do.

    AI has had some good instrument players…Scott and Matt from Season 8 are good examples. I could listen to them just playing songs…no vocals. Maybe that is my criteria….unless you can play well enough to perform a solo instrument alone…then you shouldn’t be identified with one. Of all the guitar players on Idol less than a handful have possessed that talent.

    If some new idolette shows up with an instrument that they can really wail on and it becomes “part” of them then they can compete for my vote…otherwise it is just a security blanket. Hell, I can strum a guitar as well as Allison did on season 8…that was a total frig-up!

  • koshka

    Maybe we’ll see more from this Halperin guy and see if your fears are founded, and if we’re destined for a WGWP winner

    Well honestly I’m split on what I’d like to see. I love a good train wreck and I think Nigel and Ken would ___ in their pants if we have a repeat of our current trend. Seeing them try and spin the results and sweat it out would make my day. Then on the other hand I honestly love this cheezy show & would love to see it go on for a long, long time. :) However it turn out its a win for me.

  • TwigLA

    Can I get a remote to click Ken Warwick off?

  • Hazehel

    I thought you agreed with that just 10 minutes ago by mentioning Sabrina, Alaina or half the semifinalists in season 8.

    I don’t see Alaina in their list. Just out of interest, where are the other seasons?

    I thought Paul McDonald is the WGWG this year (whether he actually plays the guitar or not)?

  • Valentin432

    I don’t see Alaina in their list. Just out of interest, where are the other seasons?

    Here is the page for season 7, Alaina was the highest rated semifinalist that didn’t make it.

    As for the other seasons, just navigate through the database.

  • sma11ie

    But this is my issue with instruments…not the playing of them but the mediocrity in the playing of them.

    Here’s the thing (TM Kara). There are more than two categories of playing—it’s not just mediocre and virtuoso. I think a fair number of contestants on Idol have played well enough to convey a degree of comfort accompanying themselves, and IMO, as long as it they’re playing adequately, and the instrument ENHANCED the performance somehow, I’m generally cool with it. As someone who plays instruments but is not good enough to accompany myself, let alone have the ability to get up to speed on a new and different song every week, I appreciate that the Idols who’ve accompanied themselves COMFORTABLY on stage without looking awkward (and there have been plenty who HAVE looked awkward because they’re clearly not good enough) have passed a minimal level of skill. Justin Timberlake is pretty decent and comfortable on the keys, but he’s not THAT good, and yet, I appreciate when he switches it up and plays when the song/performance warrants it. Now, just because a contestant is comfortable on an instrument, I still don’t want that instrument up there every single week regardless of song, style, or what’s needed in the performance. This is a TV reality competition show, after all, and I need to see the contestants challenged to show me something new, different, and exciting each week.

    One other thing: Scott could’ve played like Beethoven every single week and I would still have never voted for him. It’s American Idol, not an instrumental talent show. At the end of the day, Casey and Scott could’ve ripped into the solos of their lifetimes every week and not won if their vocals don’t pass muster.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    he sounds like a douche

  • pattycake

    Last year at this time, all I heard from AI was they wanted to find the next Taylor Swift. So they cast 24 boring singer/songwriter types that fit that mode. Unfortunately, for producers and audience, Taylor Swift and all her wannabees are boring as hell.

  • MaryS-NJ

    he sounds like a douche

    LOL, you said it luv.

  • webster

    I guess I am the lone ranger here because I totally believe that the show, however manipulated and controlled by TPTB, is about the contestants and their ability to create excitement and interest. I totally blame the failure of Season 9 on contestants who “played it so damn safe” once they reached the stage and forgot that they were supposed to connect with an audience. So the judges may have miscast a few and resorted to a type…but season 3 was all about divas and the girls still came through and created a “show”.

    I pretty much agree. It’s the contestants who have to step it up, and these didn’t. Were there others who could/would have? Maybe in the semis, but it’s idiot voters who eliminated them, if so, not the producers.

    Personally I like having instruments, but I can tell the difference between who can play and who is a poser.

    I also like having contestants with imagination, but I think they should cut off the it YouTube access, so we can see actual creativity in arrangements, not just rip-off skilz.