A&E Reverses Phil Robertson's Duck Dynasty Suspension

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A&E has released a statement announcing that Phil Robertson will be back on the show Duck Dynasty when it resumes filming in the spring. “Free speech” advocates (snerk) everywhere can rejoice!

As a global media content company, A+E Networks’ core values are centered around creativity, inclusion and mutual respect. We believe it is a privilege for our brands to be invited into people’s home and we operate with a strong sense of integrity and deep commitment to these principals.

That is why we reacted so quickly and strongly to a recent interview with Phil Robertson.  While Phil’s comments made in the interview reflect his personal views based on his own beliefs, and his own personal journey, he and his family have publicly stated they regret the “coarse language” he used and the mis-interpretation of his core beliefs based only on the article.  He also made it clear he would “never incite or encourage hate.”  We at A+E Networks expressed our disappointment with his statements in the article, and reiterate that they are not views we hold.

But Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man’s views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about family… a family that America has come to love. As you might have seen in many episodes, they come together to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness.  These are three values that we at A+E Networks also feel strongly about.

So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming Duck Dynasty later this spring with the entire Robertson family.

We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company, and the values found in Duck Dynasty. These PSAs will air across our entire portfolio.

I don’t believe personalities should be kicked off TV for the things they say. However, I support the corporation that owns Duck Dynasty doing whatever they feel is right to support their brand. And, I’m thinking the backlash after Phil’s suspension (not to mention the harassment executives had to endure. Yes, there were reports of threats) the suits there figured the face-saving suspension just wasn’t worth it.

It’s important to note, (just like in the Paula Deen case), there isn’t merely one incident of Phil directing hate filled speech at gays. A cursory search on You Tube turns up videos that contain language that’s even worse.

It would have been one thing if Phil had merely said “I believe homosexuality is a sin because my Bible says it is.” It’s another to use hate speech to condemn a group of people. Yes, I know he resorted to bible quotes in his statements. But as they say…if it walks like a duck…

So, can we stop feeling sorry for the Robertson family? Their “free speech” was never violated. Nobody kept them from expressing their opinions, and as it turns out there are no repercussions whatsoever, except a boatload of free publicity.

Read more at The Wrap.

UPDATE:

GLAAD responds to Phil’s reinstatement:

“Phil Robertson should look African American and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising Jim Crow laws and comparing gay people to terrorists. If dialogue with Phil is not part of next steps then A+E has chosen profits over African American and gay people – especially its employees and viewers.”

I wanted to add that Phil’s remarks regarding his experiences with black people while working alongside them on farms during the pre-civil rights era, while not hate filled as his rants on homosexuality are, are still appalling in their ignorance and they way they dismiss the African American struggle.

 
  • Stooch

    I’m fine with it, I believe a company has the right to do what they want (as long as no laws are broken) in terms of their product. But I hope A&E stops trying to pass the show off as a lie and allows Phil to espouse all his opinions on everything. Let’s go A&E, put the “REAL” back in reality television

  • Jake W.

    It’s kind of sad that A&E and people are willing to let the cast get away with ignorant statements. And It doesn’t seem sincere. Why do I feel that people are boycotting A&E more for “Omgzzzz it’s my favorite show ever! Don’t take it away!!”, instead of it about the statements that were said. I talked to a few people that I worked with, and they all acknowledged the hateful statements, but they were more concerned about losing the show or it’s cast. The Walking Dead is my favorite show in existence. I’m completely obsessed with that show. But you bet that I would boycott the ass out of the show and AMC if the cast went on some crazy speech like Phil did. If not for the remarks about homosexuality, Phil should be kept off the show at least on the race remarks alone.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Shocker! @.@

  • Wfish88

    No surprise. This show makes A&E wayyy too much money for them to stop it. Also, unlike Paula, people’s opinions on this controversy seems to be split, if that

  • Miss Blue

    Anything for the almighty dollar in this country. Anything. Starve the poor, watch homeless die in the streets, sell children – we’ll do anything in this country for money. So this is certainly no big shock.

  • elliegrll

    I think that the show’s ratings had everything to do with why the suspension was lifted. Dropping the news on a late Friday evening is A&E’s way of avoiding any bad press, not that there’s been a lot.

  • Wfish88

    What do you want communism?

  • bridgette12

    I knew it wouldn’t last long considering the amount of money DD was making for A&E. The best thing about all of this, at least people got to see just what the Robertsons are really all about and it’s a whole lot of ugly and hate.

  • Miss Blue

    Oh please. Having ethics, morals, and fair regulation in a capitalist system is certainly not communism.

    I simply am ashamed at what this country tolerates in the name of making a profit.

  • bridgette12

    For Phil to say what he really thinks, he would have to move this show to Showtime. A&E is just going to go on pretending that they don’t have a number one show who’s cast consist of racist and homophobes.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    From the article:

    A&E spoke with both GLAAD and the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow PUSH Coalition, both of which objected to Robertson’s remarks. Jackson said Monday that Robertson’s statements were more offensive than those of the Montgomery, Ala. bus driver who ordered Rosa Parks to give up her seat to a white passenger, a moment that launched the Civil Rights Movement.

    The bean counters at A&E won.

  • Sassycatz

    I didn’t know capitalism was pro starving children and homeless families! Wow, so proud to be an American!

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Not even surprised.

    A&E “suspended” Robertson out of fear that a backlash against him would hurt their revenues; when it became clear that wouldn’t happen, its reason for the “punishment” vanished. A&E’s position was never about the offensiveness of Robertson’s behavior, only about protecting the bottom line.

  • usedtobelucy

    If they really want to maintain that the show is about the family, why don’t they stop editing them?

  • bridgette12

    This don’t come as a big surprise to me. They never would have temporarily suspended him if it hadn’t been for GLAAD taking a stand. Now A&E can claim they did something, then bring the homophobe back and keep on editing this show.

  • Sicola789

    Good. The Robertson’s didn’t receive backlash either- their sales were very good this week.

  • bridgette12

    Nothing like other racist and homophobes supporting one of their own kind.

  • Sassycatz

    Their display, for whatever they were selling, was taken out of my local CVS in Washington, DC. And that’s the only place I saw them, so I happily never have to look at them again.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, A&E always knew exactly how offensive Phil was, but they were “disappointed” that he decided to reveal that in his GQ interview and expose that A&E had been editing Phil’s “offensiveness” all along.

  • Porfivor Nixon

    This just means it’s still acceptable to bash gays. If he had gone off on the Jews for killing Christ, I guarantee you no amount of money would have brought him back- but since it’s just the gays, well, then, that’s fine.

  • bridgette12

    Give Phil some time, I’m sure he will work his way though all the minorities in this country.

  • Sassycatz

    Well, maybe they’ll play it up now that they know how much people love all the bigotry!

  • AHotDamnMess

    Boy….They Showed him.

  • masacredo

    “If not for the remarks about homosexuality, Phil should be kept off the show at least on the race remarks alone.” – There is no difference:

  • RedMountainRanch

    Well, they can count on this Christian household (and Neilsen oddly enough) to no longer watch A&E. I won’t tolerate my own children to show hatred and justify it by the good book. So, bye bye A&E.

  • Tess Herself

    I choose to not any of this affect me this week. Irregardless of why we celebrate these few weeks as Holidays it is a time to bring family together and somewhat strive, for many of us, to express our core values, whatever they be.

    I’m just thrilled that same sex couples here in Utah have been lining up by the hundreds here in Utah this last week to get married. Somewhat over 1200 marriage licenses were issued in a week (a record for the state) and about 90% were to gay couples. I had several acquaintances get married, one couple who had been together for 29 years.

    I think the State of Utah will have a long hard fight reinstating one man one woman marriages when the general populace realizes that no harm was done to anyone else (especially the children) while same sex marriages are allowed. I think the fight has gone out of many who oppose civil rights for all.

    So A&E and the Robertsons can just go on with their scripted stories….theirs definitely wasn’t any big deal, to me, this week. I was watching a much BIGGER story unfold with a lot more meaning.

  • usedtobelucy

    Probably, but that’s only because Jews, like Catholics, Eastern Europeans, etc., are groups about whom this country has already fought the battle in decades past, and by now most people either accept these groups as fully human or at least realize that they should keep their bigotry quiet because too many people would object. The gay battle is a relatively new one, and these battles take decades upon decades, for some reason, so there are still millions who feel justified in bashing away. When you look at our history, the arc does seem to bend toward justice adn greater inclusion but the mills grind awfully slowly.

    Still, here in commercial America, I really wonder whether you might not be able to get away with bashing almost anyone, as long as it didn’t hurt ratings and sales. And in this case, I expect Phil’s bigotries don’t hurt sales but help them, since I doubt that gays or blacks or the open-minded watch the Ducks in any huge numbers, while those with Phil’s views probably do…. and probably some have even begun watching since they heard Phil’s views.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh yes. I’m sure that Phil is ashamed of himself and this entire incident has taught him a valuable lesson (delusional).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, this incident will merely reshape DD’s audience and increase the proportion (and number) of viewers with similar mindsets as Phil.

  • Kirsten

    But Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man’s views. It resonates with a
    large audience because it is a show about family… a family that America
    has come to love

    Translation: Everybody wants to keep the gravy train moving along, so we’ll just ignore what happened (and continue editing the poisonous bits out so that America can continue to love the Robertson).

    Hey, A&E! Just wait, all those people who sent you death threats aren’t going to be content unless you start showing the real Phil. Then, when you start showing the real Phil, the less strident viewers will either have to admit they enjoy watching misogynistic, homophobic, racist bile being spilled on their television or quit watching.

    Ugh! I can’t wait until this fake show goes away. I cringe at how this will just embolden that cantankerous, deluded a$$ into new levels of “wisdom” spewing.

  • Tess Herself

    Duck Dynasty’s largest audience was 12 million people for a show. That isn’t even 4% of the US population. I don’t think a whole lot of people, in the grand scheme of things, even care. And people had to have known this was a show about Evangelical Christian rednecks who made a fortune and turned from clean cut college boys into camouflage wearing, long haired, beard growing hee haws all for the sake of a few extra dollars in their pockets.

  • H.A.

    A&E: “We believe that, though he never apologized, Phil Robertson learned his lesson after being suspended from Duck Dynasty for 0 episodes”

    Bigots and homophobes rejoice.

  • bridgette12

    It’s the price we pay for our freedoms. In America, bigots and homophobes have a right to spew their hate and those of us who are not, have a right to call them out. I would much rather be in a country that allows this, then have a government that try to silence people who they don’t like. The US has come a long way and the fact that we are talking openly about Gays and Gay marriage, just shows the advancements we have made as a people.

  • Montavilla

    Pure capitalism is neither pro- nor anti- starving children and homeless families. It’s a system, not a person with thoughts or feelings. An individual capitalist may be for helping the poor and homeless. But capitalism itself does not care one way or the other.

  • LA944

    I’m not so sure about that. Isn’t that what Mel Gibson did–& he still made movies after The Passion of the Christ & his arrest comments.

    I’m sure this guy loves the Jews. There are tons of Jewish hunters buying his products lol. BTW, there are gay Jews–so they got bashed

  • Niall

    A&E execs can make whatever decision they wish because it’s their network. If the only thing that comes from this is some people finally understand what the first amendment really means, then it was an annoying news story that had a worthwhile outcome.

    I found his comments about blacks to be more offensive than the ones he made about gays. With gays he was using his biblical view, which I find misguided but it’s his way of seeing the world. Reminiscing fondly about how happy blacks were pre-civil rights era said more about his mindset than anything else.

  • usedtobelucy

    January 21 — National Kiss-an-Outspoken Homophobe Day. Apparently some Phil fans hope to unite Phil and Chik Fil-A appreciation in a day of Phil joy at Chik Fil-A locations. Chik Fil-A says it has nothing to do with this event. Ha. Apparently they’re not as confident as A&E about the continued support of chicken eaters if they embrace this.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/27/257640983/stories-merge-as-duck-dynasty-fans-plan-chick-phil-a-day?ft=1&f=1014&utm_campaign=nprpolitics&utm_source=politics&utm_medium=twitter

  • Darko_5

    A&E looks more ridiculas then if they had done nothing. Why give people who think this way a sense that they scored some kind of victory. It pisses me off.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    The Ducks audience will stay large, but more monolithic.

    I’d always meant to catch it to see what all of the fuss is about. But i have zero interest, now.

    Also, will never cover the show on the blog. Ever.

  • thedeviledadvocate

    The reboots of both Dallas and Hawaii Five O are both doing very well. In light of this Ducky little controversy, perhaps a reboot of All In The Family would do quite well. In the 70′s Archie Bunker said things that are so politically incorrect today, one might think he was Phil’s mentor.

  • usedtobelucy

    I definitely agree about what the bigger story is.

    But I don’t think it’s a nonstory that an apparently nontrivial number of Americans who count themselves deeply devout Christians believe that civil-rights laws and anti-poverty programs were not only harmful but created an immoral African-American community and focus their meditations on sin on the idea that homosexuality is a particularly lethal gateway sin to things like God-hating and even murder. The idea that millions of my fellow citizens apparently believe that their Christian faith supports these ideas troubles me.

  • Disraeli99

    Sick of this whole story, from this fake ass fauxbilly family of millionaires, to Sarah “I Can See Russia From My House” Palin, to A&E’s stunt queen tactics, to the mindless bleating coming from their cretin fans. The whole thing was orchestrated to create a false controversy and solidify their appeal to their redneck fans. Money talks. Get used to more of this fuckery in the years to come.

  • usedtobelucy

    Apparently greeting cards, Halloween costumes, and chia pets.

    The greeting cards are from Hallmark, by the way. So A&E is not the only corporate that is happily supporting these folks.

    Hallmark Channel, indeed.

    http://www.hallmark.com/products/christmas/greeting-cards/a-hairy-christmas-1PGC8066_DK/?searchTerm=%22duck+dyn

    http://www.hallmark.com/products/thanksgiving/greeting-cards/faith-family-facial-hair-1PGC8436_DK/

  • Sassycatz

    Lord, I hope not. At least “All In the Family” was totally fictional, the actor Carroll O’Connor was actually a liberal, and the show featured characters with opposing views to Archie’s which served for teachable moments. All of that would probably go right over the Duck Dynasty audience’s head.

  • Kirsten

    In light of this Ducky little controversy, perhaps a reboot of All In
    The Family would do quite well. In the 70′s Archie Bunker said things
    that are so politically incorrect today, one might think he was Phil’s
    mentor.

    One of the major themes of AiF was to point out how absolutely ridiculous Archie was with his racist/homophobic points of view. It wasn’t subtle about telling you that Archie was wrong. The show, at its core, was the antithesis of what Phil thinks.

    If Duck Dynasty producers decide to turn Phil into “real-life” Archie Bunker in the same manner, I suspect the rest of the family would quit the show and those fans who got him reinstated would send some more death threats.

    It is amazing what you can do in the editing room.

    By-the-by that is one of the things that makes me scratch my head about people saying the Ducks would waddle off to another station. Unless they bring the same production crew, the show won’t be the same. While the Robertsons are a huge part of the success for the show, don’t discount the folks behind the cameras who script the scenarios and edit them into the “loveable family” so many think they are. The show Phil wants to put on the air wouldn’t be nearly as successful.

  • Sassycatz

    I can’t decide. When the one fellow — one of the sons — decides to run for political office in Louisiana, would it be to his benefit or not to take along the production crew? ;-)

  • Corrine43180

    Thank you.

  • Guest

    Who cares about what he said? Its not like the Southerners, this show’s main demo graph, are supportive of LGBT and neither are the LGBT are fans of this show.

  • Sassycatz

    All systems are created by people and are therefore laden with certain moral/social judgements about what is good and best for the most people.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Also, will never cover the show on the blog. Ever.”

    Thanks, MJ. I, too, have no interest in watching this show, since this incident has told me all I need to know about Phil and his family.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree. This incident has shown that A&E doesn’t need to edit out Phil’s offensive comments. As a matter of fact, ratings will probably increase if they don’t.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    A&E is now trying to get the members of the Westboro Baptist Church as special guest stars on DD.

  • ellen8

    The acceptance of racism and bigotry in this country is appalling and this is just another example of it.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ‘Duck Dynasty’: GLAAD responds to Phil Robertson’s return

    GLAAD is not pleased with A&E’s decision reversing the suspension of Phil Robertson from “Duck Dynasty.”

    “Phil Robertson should look African American and gay people in the eyes and hear about the hurtful impact of praising Jim Crow laws and comparing gay people to terrorists,” the organization said in a statement. “If dialogue with Phil is not part of next steps then A+E has chosen profits over African American and gay people – especially its employees and viewers.”

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-duck-dynasty-glaad-responds-to-phil-robertons-return-20131227,0,1182256.story#ixzz2olslPk4Q

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ….For A+E, co-owned by Walt Disney Co. and Hearst Corp., Duck Dynasty has been the biggest revenue driver, generating some $400 million in merchandise sales, according to Forbes, and bagging $80 million in ad sales for the first nine months of this year alone.

    Meanwhile, North Carolina-based Faith Driven Consumer took credit for Robertson’s reinstatement, which the group claims “is in direct response to the powerful and engaged voices of millions of Faith Driven Consumers, as highlighted by more than 260,000 signers of the IStandWithPhil.com petition.” The organization also insists it should be part of any dialogue A+E would have with advocacy groups and urges A&E to “embrace of our biblically based values and deeply held beliefs.

    statement by “Faith Driven Consumers”:

    Today’s decision by A&E to reinstate Phil Robertson to Duck Dynasty is in direct response to the powerful and engaged voices of millions of Faith Driven Consumers, as highlighted by more than 260,000 signers of the IStandWithPhil.com petition.

    “However, the question remains, has the Faith Driven Consumer community truly been heard?

    “Despite our celebration, we remain uncertain of A&E’s true intent. Today, in the network’s statement of their core values – centered on ‘creativity, inclusion, and mutual respect’ – Faith Driven Consumers are left wondering whether A&E considers us to be a part of America’s rich rainbow of diversity.

    “Do they also now embrace the biblically based values and worldview held by the Robertson family and millions of Faith Driven Consumers?

    “Did the network’s engagement and consultation with ‘numerous advocacy groups’ include Faith Driven Consumers? We eagerly anticipate A&E’s naming of those groups to ensure that our community was included.

    “Faith Driven Consumers will remain vigilant as we measure whether A&E’s actions reflect true tolerance, diversity, and mutual respect – including their equal embrace of our biblically based values and deeply held beliefs.

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/glaad-reacts-to-phil-robertson-duck-dynasty-return/

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The Real Duck Dynasty Scandal: Phil Robertson’s Comments on Race
    His comments about gays are offensive, but his vision of the Jim Crow South is shocking—and his conservative defenders and liberal assailants are mostly ignoring it.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/the-real-em-duck-dynasty-em-scandal-phil-robertsons-comments-on-race/282538/

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Robertson thinks the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because they didn’t believe in Jesus. “All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. That’s eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-what-youre-really-defending-2013-12#ixzz2olwpPFMZ

  • usedtobelucy

    Whereas over the past 200 years, the United States and its citizens have committed no extraterritorial or local killings of any kind. Oh, wait …

  • usedtobelucy

    “Today, in the network’s statement of their core values – centered on
    ‘creativity, inclusion, and mutual respect’ – Faith Driven Consumers are
    left wondering whether A&E considers us to be a part of America’s
    rich rainbow of diversity.”

    Speechless.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    This is more than ‘acceptance’. It’s promotion of racism, bigotry and ignorance.

  • AHotDamnMess

    Please tell me u knew I was being sarcastic.

  • usedtobelucy

    “By-the-by that is one of the things that makes me scratch my head about
    people saying the Ducks would waddle off to another station. Unless they
    bring the same production crew, the show won’t be the same.”

    Kirsten, you seem to be attributing logic to Duck Dynasty supporters ….

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol Yes, I knew. The “delusional” refers to the post that I made.

  • BonnieDee

    Again, he’s talking about his own experiences–what he saw while working in the fields alongside African Americans as a child. You can’t say what he saw or didn’t see. It’s his experience. Just because he didn’t see racism as a child doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. He then spent his young adulthood up drunk and drugged up and was only focused on himself, based on what he says in his book, so I doubt he saw much then. I don’t think this is racist. It’s highly uninformed, but again it’s his own experience and it’s not racist at all.

  • Chessguy99

    The season 5 premiere goes up against Idol S13 on the 15th. Want to make a bet as to which one gets better ratings? And 12 million isn’t a large audience? Idol didn’t even come close to that number last year.

  • Sassycatz

    Huh? Is that a joke?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s speculative sarcasm (at least I hope that it is).

  • Disraeli99

    Same as it ever was, same as it ever was… Minorities and those on the receiving end of continuing racist and bigoted attitudes embedded into the bedrock and culture of this country are not/are never shocked when a Phil Robertson dares to show his true colors and face to the world. The level of denial – and willful naivete – by those in this country thinking racism and bigotry and the evils they produce is dead, that they died out in America after the 60′s and the election of a Black president is for some equally appalling AND shameful. The continuing level of ignorance and acceptance of such hate filled attitudes and behavior is shameful, and will do more to push America into 2nd class nationhood than the acceptance of and basic dignity, respect and civil and human rights being afforded to immigrants, minorities, gays… Robertson and Co. and their supporters are akin to Neanderthals in a 21st century world…

  • Disraeli99

    All due respect to you, but there’s no way in HELL he grew up in the Jim Crow South of the 40′s/50′s/60′s and not know of or be aware of the beatings, lynchings, denial of rights the “happy” black folk he worked beside endured… Did he attend the same schools with them? Did he ever invite some of these friends home for supper? Was his blindness affecting his vision of the White Only and Colored Only signs that were everywhere in public domains in Louisiana, in the city and the country where he lived? How many of those happy folk he chopped cotton with got accepted with him into Louisiana Tech? Methinks Phil is full of shit, willfully and shamefully blind, ignorant and delusional about the plight of these “happy” folk he saw… His so called education has not served him well if all these years later he’s still spewing out this Gone With The Wind fantasy of race relations endemic in rednecks, bigots and racists who can’t seem to accept the truth.

  • Not fit to print

    “Just because he didn’t see racism as a child doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.” Exactly.

    “He then spent his young adulthood up drunk and drugged up and was only focused on himself, based on what he says in his book, so I doubt he saw much then.” Exactly.

    “I don’t think this is racist.” This is the crux of the matter.
    Some people are a lot more compassionate to “sinners” who hate than they are to “sinners” who want to enjoy the same marital joy and responsibility that straight people do.

    Go figure.

  • esther macha

    He would have to be the most self centered or blind or just down right stupid to have not seen racism. Hell even drunk or drugged you could not avoid it.I grew up at the same time and the same area and even as a small child I was upset over what I saw. Even in the sixties in public places the water fountains and bathrooms etc were clearly marked so there would be no mistaking which one to use. The white ones would be nice and inside and the colored would be hid down a dingy dark hallway or outside.Us white kids got to go to the movie show all day on saturday ( every saturday) the black kids got to go once a month if they were brave enough and had to sit in the balcony ( never on the main floor).they didn,t get to go to the skating rink or the pool either.You really think he missed noticing all that? And he somehow missed The KKK stores, meeting places and signs everywhere. Maybe he didn,t know what that stood for..NOT. Of course the blacks were smiling they had no choice. He disgusts me.

  • Not fit to print

    It’s not about the First Amendment. It’s about the $$$$.

  • Disraeli99

    ITA. Robertson’s willful ignorance and delusion, along w/that of the sheeple that see nothing wrong in what he said should never go unchecked or unchallenged. Using the Bible or invoking the name of Jesus while hatin’, killin’, lyin’ and denyin’ people basic dignity, respect and human rights is so appallingly hypocritical and UNJESUSLIKE… WWJD? He wouldn’t, but I’d be tempted to drag a bitch or two like Phil for using my name to bastardize teachings centered on love, tolerance, peace, brotherhood…

  • Pippygirl

    Well now that our First Amendment rights and free market system is safe, can these people please go far, far away?

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus.

    Wait, what?

    The Germany that confirmed Hitler’s rule in a national referendum was 2/3 Protestant and 1/3 Catholic. Even if Robertson doesn’t see Catholics as Christian (some evangelicals don’t), that’s still a Protestant Christian majority that was just fine with Nazi government.

    Despite the Nazi pro-science (well, pseudo-science), anti-religion official stance, most members of the Nazi Party considered themselves to be Christians. Let’s not forget the Nazi effort at a state religion — Positive Christianity — that merged Nazi ideology with Christian doctrine.

    Robertson has a master’s degree in education and is this ignorant of basic facts about history? I’m not sure if I’m more appalled by him or by the colleges that granted his degrees.

  • Disraeli99
  • siouxl

    Most of you all on this blog have bashed Christianity, The Bible, Red Necks and Phil Robertson personally… Practice what you preach much? I have seen where GLAAD wants Mr. Robertson to sit down with them and listen to how hurtful his remarks were. How about if you all sit down and listen to how hurtful your remarks are? Are any of you entitled to be treated better than he is? Should you all be called out about the things spewed forth?

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Hearing that Robertson repeatedly bears false witness — whether from ignorance or deliberately — should hurt. He’s breaking one of the Ten Commandments, and that’s serious business.

    But Jesus is pretty clear that there’s no good in pretending that lies are true.

  • Disraeli99

    I think Phil and the expected “tolerance dog and pony show” upcoming for him would be more effective if he used some of that duck money to travel round the country, sitting down with real folk like my 90 year old grandfather, my mother and father, and others of their and his generation. He’d get 1st hand, unfiltered and unadulterated TRUTHS told now to his face about their existence during those “happy” times.. you know, those “happy” times when da darkies was just a-singing and a-dancing in the fields, why just about to bust wide open from happiness hoeing the white man’s cotton, with Miz Scarlett just a-flittin’ around.

    *bats eyes, then rolls them*

    My folks and grandparents are “good Christians” (me not so much), BETTER Christians IMO than Phil Robertson will ever be. The memories of the hate and oppression still sting for them after all these years and advancements. They’re never far from the surface of their thoughts. They raised their kids to be FAR more open, tolerant and forgiving than “Christians” like him. I am still working out the forgiveness part for all the atrocities perpetrated upon my loved ones by folk of Robertson’s mindset.

    He doesn’t need to travel far to sit down and receive another “education”. He needs to just walk down the road apiece, to talk with some of his black neighbors and hear the real deal.

  • Sassycatz

    Well, first of all, there is something called a false equivalency and that’s one you’ve laid out above. Phil Robertson, as far as I can see, hasn’t paid any price for being willfully ignorant. He still has his television show, dollars pouring in, and now he’s probably the darling of the ignorant wing of the Right. So, as far as I can see, he’s scored!

    By the way, I don’t care what Phil’s views are. He can hold whatever opinions he wants — and they are *his* opinions — but I just hate to see him being rewarded for them. There are sideshows that are harmless, but there are other sideshows which just coarsen society and I think he’s *now* one of the latter.

  • Not fit to print

    “Practice what you preach much?”

    That is exactly what most of us have been saying to the Phil Robertson apologists on this blog for two days now. It’s a two-way street.

    We are all equally accountable for our opinions and by expressing them on this blog or in any other place we implicitly put ourselves out for whatever scorn might be forthcoming.

    Most of the compassionate Christians on this blog have at listened to a bit of Phil’s video preaching and quite a few of us have dug into and offered up many passages in the Bible to support our views. That is a good foundation for what has been an interesting exchange of views.

    Congrats to Phil for agreeing to sit down with GLAAD and engage in a similar exchange.

  • Tess Herself

    This is a blog site and one of its purposes, for me, is to get to comment on the “news” printed and how I react to it. I am not, like Phil Robertson, going to a National publication and expressing my views, or allowing my “church” sermons to be “you tubed”. I think there is a big difference.

    If I choose to extol my beliefs on a public soap box with my name and affiliations clearly printed for all to see I am opening myself up to receive the support, or damnation, or condemnation, or praise that arises from my remarks. That is how it works…and Phil knows that very well…for even in his drug riddled, drunken stupor days he received a higher education. He knows how to get his words out there….and consequently many of us don’t let his self created old down home rural charm mislead us.

  • Tess Herself

    Correct me if I am wrong but I was talking about Duck Dynasty, alone, and not about its place in television standings. Comparisons don’t mean that it is more influential outside of its 4%….besides, lots of programs are still reaching close to 20 million viewers.

  • Kirsten

    So, Phil is just going to ignore all the bad things people who are Christian have done. Of course, he’ll probably just justify it by saying that those Christians were false Christians who didn’t really know Jesus. Which is kind of what I wish I could say about him since he seems to base his homophobic and racist crap on parts of the bible that don’t actually include Jesus, but I’m afraid we Christians can’t disaffiliate him quite that easily.

    Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero.

    What a dumbass. If Phil is going to pontificate on topics to the world, maybe he should do a tiny little bit of research. Jesus is considered a prophet by Muslims.

    So, yes Phil, the people who destroyed the World Trade Center did have some Jesus. Put that in your duck call and blow it.

  • Disraeli99
  • Not fit to print

    This has always bothered me. When big blockbuster films pull in $100 million at the box office and you divide that by $8-10 per person, it’s a drop in the bucket of the entire American population. Why do we refer to anything as a blockbuster?

    Media is so fragmented today. Idol and DD are drops in the bucket.

  • bridgette12

    It’s a blog, people give their opinions. Before the Phil supporters try to anoint him as a saint, maybe it would be a good idea to know what your pimping before you pimp.

  • weareallinnocent

    “Most of you…”

    Um, no.

    I understand that in certain factions it’s all the rage to surround one’s self with only people who agree (or simply nod and smile) with you. Some go to great lengths to ensure single-mindedness or silence — defriending on Facebook, unfollowing on Twitter, shaming, ostrasizing and isolating those who disagree in real life. It is my strongly held opinion that people who do this are only interested in hearing one viewpoint — his or her own.

    “Most of” the posters here are not of that mind, imo. We delight in the open, honest, free exchange of ideas and different viewpoints. And, we listen and hear the views of others. I find it refreshing.

    As for the words of Mr. Robertson, he’s not posting here. We are left only with his publicly recorded comments. If he drops by here and engages in a dialogue, we could “listen” to each other. It would be good. I wish he would.

  • weareallinnocent

    The day after the MLK holiday? I’m sure there’s no intent or statement there…

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Discussion of “the blog” and how people are responding or behaving on “the blog” is ALWAYS OFF TOPIC! Deleting all further discussion that does not involve the Robertsons and A&E

  • weareallinnocent

    Sorry MJ.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    If Chick-Fil-A officially supported a Duck Dynasty-themed event, the chain would probably have to pay licensing fees of some sort.

    By neither supporting it nor disavowing it, Chick-Fil-A gets to have their duck and eat it too.

  • siouxl

    My apologies.

  • Jordana33

    Well I’m Catholic and I certainly don’t feel bashed by the comments. Furthermore, there is nothing in Phil Roberston’s behavior that I interpret as inherently Christian. Like many bigots, he uses his own selective interpretation of the Bible as a means of justifying his intolerance of others and his sense of superiority over others. If posters want to criticise that aspect of Christianity, then I think it’s fair game. If religious beliefs had not been challenged in the past, then it would still be considered OK to persecute or kill others for not being Christian (or sharing the same religion). As for Phil Roberston….I have zero concern for his feelings. He went on national TV and made harmful statements about people based solely on their sexual preference and then had the audacity to get nostalgic about race relations in a pre-civil rights era. He’s getting the same respect that he’s shown others.

  • Roimeister

    “as it turns out there are no repercussions whatsoever, except a boatload of free publicity”

    and non-duck-bloggers everywhere capitalized

  • ajr86

    Great News! The silent majority of this country who have been stepped on and ridiculed as being hateful and backwards has spoken up and won! T
    he devients at GLAAD who are the true bigoted people are going down. Notice how they focus more on his comments about african Americans because they know his words about homosexuality were harmless.
    Phil equated gays to terrorists?? LOL. GLAAD always likes to put words in peoples mouth

  • ajr86

    You are proving the comment. The bible says homosexual act is a sin and an abomination, how else do you interpret that? It doesn’t make him hate them but their action.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Hating their action = hating them. Homosexuality is not a behavior like stealing or coveting thy neighbor’s wife.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Lol. So?

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Notice how they focus more on his comments about african Americans
    because they know his words about homosexuality were harmless.

    Talk about putting words in people’s mouths. And reading their minds. Badly.

    The silent majority of this country who have been stepped on and ridiculed as being hateful and backwards has spoken up and won!

    Not the majority. Just loud, scary and persistent. And “winning” doesn’t change the fact that they’re hateful and backwards.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Jesus says “he who is without sin, cast the first stone” (John 8:7), but that doesn’t seem to have slowed Robertson down.

    So clearly, even among Bible literalists like Robertson, there is room for interpretation.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Did you read the whole context of that part of the bible or just that one bit? Because that part is about worshiping some other god that included killing children and then men having sex with male prostitutes in temples. I don’t think the bible says anything about gay people in committed relationships.
    Anyway, the bible is old. It’s 2013, you can’t take everything that the bible says as a foolproof guide for life in the present.

  • HermeticallySealed

    I would love to see any evidence of this supposed “silent majority”.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    If the “silent majority” of this country are people like Phil Robertson, then God help us all.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Exactly. might as well hate someone for being female, or black while you are at it.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Well, no. I think I’ve heard somewhere that Catholic Church doesn’t have a problem with gay people existing. But since having sex with a person of the same gender is considered a sin, homosexuals are expected to live celibate and resist their sexual urges.
    Obviously, we humans are sexual creatures, so expecting from homosexuals not to have sex isn’t really realistic.

    I got Catholic religious education and in all my 9 years of RE we never discussed this topic.

  • ajr86

    For the last time: I don’t hate people who have sex with the same sex. It is a sin against God and it doesn’t directly harm other people. However being suspended, fired and sued for believing in biblical truths which was consideredthe norm until the perverts took over this ccountry does effect others.

  • ajr86

    Loud,scary,hateful and backwards?? You sound very elitist and bigoted.
    Just remember 31/35 states who voted on gay marriage voted NO including liberal states like California, Oregon and Hawaii. North Carolina which had the closest results in the last 2 presidential elections, voted to ban gay marriage last year 62%-38%. Blowout.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    The difference with the Catholic approach from Robertson’s is that it’s rare to hear anybody get up in the pulpit and rant about the topic, partly because Catholic homiletics tends to focus on the likely experiences of the actual listeners, who are presumed to be heterosexual. Rousing ire against others-not-present isn’t how it’s done.

    The Catholic doctrine on “gay means celibate” bothers me — it’s among the long, long list of reasons why I’m not Catholic — but on the ground, in practice, it’s a lot easier to believe there’s a sort of benign “we don’t hate you, but please go be Episcopalian with all the uppity women who want to be ordained” tolerance in place due to the lack of yelling and fist-pumping. (There’s also a lot of variance in the behavior of individual Catholics, so it’s possible to hit a parish that’s downright gay-friendly.)

  • HermeticallySealed

    And yet, those numbers are shifting even now. Pointing to years out of date numbers says nothing about today. I might also point out, that the fact that America soundly declared not wanting the likes of Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin in charge seems to belay the notion that such ignorant bigots are the “majority.”

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    “Bigoted” against whom? People who would call an entire group of people “deviants?”

    Guilty as charged.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Loud,scary,hateful and backwards??”

    If the shoe fits ….

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Folks can quote all the out-of-date statistics that they want. Marriage equality will be a reality for all Americans sooner rather than later.

    And yep, just like in the days of Jim Crow, it’s going to take the courts, in some instances, to ensure the minority isn’t trampled on by a hateful majority.

  • Not fit to print

    Nothing silent about Phil.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    One of the shockers in Robertson’s views is his dislike of the Civil Rights movement, as his own branch of Christianity — the Churches of Christ, of which his specific church is a member — addressed segregation relatively early (1950s, with much voluntary desegregation in the early 1960s), with leadership coming out against racism. Change was bumpy, but Robertson is speaking out of ignorance of his own church’s history and the words of its leaders when he declares African-Americans were happier before having full civil rights.

    Focusing entirely on one’s one experience also isn’t the accepted hermeneutic method of the Churches of Christ, so I’m puzzled why he’s allowed to roam free, preaching, other than that Protestants tend to keep a very loose rein on their own people.

  • ajr86

    The gay mafia owns the media, academia and Hollywood so it’s no wonder opinion is changing. If a vote was held tomorrow a majority of states would still vote to keep marriage between a man and woman. Calling people who haven’t been brainwashed to believe that 2 people of the same sex is called a marriage bigots and hateful is hypocritical to say the least. For the record Palin lost bc of McCain and Santorum was a lousy communicator. And you liberals had no problem when in 2008 Obama said he believed based on his faith that marriage is between a man and womn. HYPOCRITES

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    There’s also a lot of variance in the behavior of individual Catholics, so it’s possible to hit a parish that’s downright gay-friendly.

    Yes, they exist. We have them here in Boston.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Naaah, academia is mostly hetero people trudging from the library to the classroom and back, with stops at BevMo and Total Wine because reading large piles of undergrad papers has that effect.

    However, it tends to be “owned” by people who got decent college grades and who therefore have their basic facts on history and civics mostly right. That’ll lead to not being impressed with Robertson, right there.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    I think I’ve heard somewhere that Catholic Church doesn’t have a problem with gay people existing.

    Robertson and his ilk preach about homosexuality as if it’s a choice. They rely on warmed over Freudian concepts to prove their point and send their children to re-education camps to “pray the gay away” so they can come back and live “normal” hetersexual lives. It’s not the same thing.

  • bridgette12

    Gays are people too, they don’t have any special mental powers to sway people or control their thoughts. As for Sarah Palin, Americans can tolerate a lot of things when it comes to politicians, but outright stupidity and total incompetence really scares us when it comes to the top two positions in our government. That’s why she lost, she scared people with how ignorant she was.

  • JLE12

    Gay Mafia???? WTF is that?! Who’s the boss? Is there an East v. West Coast version? LMAO. As a more leaning conservative I had/have a huge problem with BOTH parties denial of equal rights. Palin lost because she is an idiot. McCain screwed up with that one. It wasn’t even close.

    Poll after poll show that marriage equality is gaining huge momentum and I can’t wait for the day everyone can be married to whomever they choose.

    I agree with MJ, it will come down to the courts because that is how our country works. Courts are there to protect all citizens of their basic civil rights.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    There’s no evidence that Robertson is smart. He got into college on a football scholarship and then proceeded to piss it away because he would rather get drunk, high and kill things. lol.

    He started the Duck call business, but it was his son who grew it into a multimillion dollar enterprise.

  • Tess Herself

    I still would really like to know what proponents of one man one woman feel is so hurtful about civil unions being allowed between couples of the same sex. How does one impact the other? What goes on behind the closed doors of someone’s bedroom is of no business to anyone else as long as those involved are consenting adults. And we already have thousands upon thousands of long term same sex couples living together, raising families, paying taxes, enriching neighborhoods, participating in school functions, acting as mentors to others, teaching our children, working at every type of job that impacts our daily lives. How are they possibly making the world worse when they have participated in it for its entire known existence? The rationale for all of this anti-gay marriage just escapes me.
    ETA: Popular support has grown for same-sex marriage, too, with 54 percent of Americans supporting it in a July 2013 Gallup poll.http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx

  • Not fit to print

    Under the Constitution, rights are inalienable. , No matter how many votes are held and how people vote, the Constitution will ultimately prevail as the courts are proving. (And, if history is anything to go by, the votes will follow over time.)

    Even as we type these posts, Utah is laying the groundwork for a ruling that could bring SSM to ALL of the states covered by the 10th Circuit Court within the year. If they are denied (and that looks likely) and decide to appeal to SCOTUS, they will be instrumental in introducing SSM to all 31 of the states you are talking about.

  • ajr86

    Quoting the bible where God says that the homosexual act is a sin and an abomination is deemed hateful and bigoted?
    Guilty as charged.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    I still don’t get how people can use the Romans passage on homosexuality as an outcome of worshipping false gods to “prove” that the gay persons praying next to them in their Christian churches are abominations. It simply doesn’t compute.

  • Not fit to print

    In my experience, the use of phrases like “the deviants at GLAAD” and the “The Gay Mafia…..” suggest that the speaker does “hate people who have sex with the same sex.”

  • Tess Herself

    But since you have to believe in the bible to even quote it as a source how is that relevant to all Americans who don’t have a connection to the bible…what use are those quotes to them?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Don’t forget “perverts”.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Well, the good news is that South Park will do a brilliant job of spoofing this entire thing. Granted, The Duck Dynasty supporters most likely don’t watch South Park, but at least I’ll be able to get a good laugh out of it.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Except God never says it, it’s always man. Nowhere does Jesus say a word about it, and it certainly isn’t anywhere in the 10 commandments. If you are going to claim that just because it is in the bible, it must be the word of God, then I suppose you support slavery and abortion as well? And certainly you must believe all women are natural born liars and deviants, each and everyone incapable of ever knowing truth? What about the Earth being flat, and the center of the universe? There are hundreds of items in the bible that we either know to be false, or to be unethical and repulsive.

  • Sassycatz

    I’ve been reading many of your past posts all over the internet. You’re wasted on my home turf of Southern New Jersey. LOL!

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Here’s an interesting video from a Christian pastor, on the subject of gay rights. To get the full effect, it is necessary to watch it all the way to the end, and I emphasize that strongly. Stopping halfway through because it seems certain how it will turn out gives a false impression.

    http://robertcargill.com/2012/10/19/clever-pastor-makes-gutsy-argument-against-gay-marriage/

  • usedtobelucy

    No kidding. Polling often suggests that they aren’t the majority. And Internet forums suggest that they aren’t silent, either. lol

  • usedtobelucy

    Gee, who does that remind me of? ha

  • usedtobelucy

    A college-educated adult making very public comments has no business acting as if the perceptions of a white child/teenager tell the full story of what blacks were experiencing in pre-civil-rights Louisiana. Furthermore, when he added that phrase about his “own eyes,” he made it perfectly clear that he knows he’s being disingenuous in stating this as if it’s the full story.

    And the only reason I can conceive of for someone to ignore the mountain of documentary evidence that makes his point a piece of trivial misleading falsehood is a desire to bolster, even if it means lying, the debating point that civil-rights laws were unnecessary.

    And the only reason I can think of for doing that is that one is a racist, even if, perhaps, an unconscious racist who thinks he’s really just being a small-government “conservative.”

  • Miz

    If you had covered it, I’d do what I do with other things I don’t like here. Just not read it and move on to stuff I’m interested in.
    But thank you for not exploiting it for the clicks.

  • weareallinnocent

    I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten. Tell me again. What does the Bible say about pride and a haughty spirit?

  • weareallinnocent

    “perverts took over this country”???

    So respectful, that right there. Wow.

    Could you please name the perverts who now have control of the country. I would love to know so I can watch out and keep my kids away from them. Do tell. And, thanks for the heads up.

  • jeffreyd95821

    The Roberston family just became the most powerful people in show business. Paula Deen gets fired from Food Network for something she said years ago? Fine. Alec Baldwin gets fired for cussing out a pap? Whatever. But some ZZ Top impersonator says the most offensive things ever, his family stands up to their employers and A&E cave in? Like I said, the most powerful people in show business. I’ll still watch Bates Motel when it comes back in March. But please Freddie Highmore and Vera Farmiga, don’t go the same route, thanks!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Are you a sinner, ajr86?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ajr86 isn’t even a Christian. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Since you are not a Christian, clearly you are using this incident to promote your own views on gays and AAs.
    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/duck-dynasty-star-makes-anti-gay-comments-glaad-ae-respond.htm#comment-1169281419

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I’ve been reading many of your past posts all over the internet.”

    So have I. Seems that this has nothing to do with religious beliefs.

  • Kariann Hart

    Thank you for saying, “Gay Mafia???? WTF is that?! Who’s the boss? Is there an East v. West Coast version?” I thought I have been sheltered as this is the FIRST time I have head that term. Oh, and this… “Palin lost because she is an idiot.” Sounds about right.

  • Not fit to print

    THANKS FOR THAT LINK. Missed a bit of the convo. :)

  • Not fit to print

    Exactly. Me, too. I attended 12 years of Catholic School and it never came up. I do have a problem with my church’s official position on the homosexuality and so do many of my friends.
    Pope Francis’ recent interview in Civilta Cattolica gives me great hope for change. The Advocate named him Person of the Year. A change is coming sooner than most people think.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-francis-says-church-too-obsessed-with-gays-abortion-1.1860560

    IMHO, the church’s view that homosexuality is innate, not a lifestyle, is at bottom of many Catholics’ acceptance of SSM. It implicitly offers a way to foster faithful and good relationships for their LGBTQ brethren. Here’s hoping, anyway,

  • Not fit to print

    How is a Catholic not feeling bashed by critics of Christianity proving the comment? Especially when the comment is made by a self-proclaimed, non-Christian who is quoting the bible as an authority?

  • Indigobunting

    Lol, the end is NEAR! Phil Robertson is the charismatic false prophet (note the worship of the almighty $$ as impetus for A&E-the organizer of his minions) who is the real Antichrist!!!!

    ^^Yes, all kind of crazy in so many different ways can result from the sanctimonious who selectively quote the bible/use their religion to spew hate.

    Phil Robertson will fade from view like all the other nut jobs. And I don’t mean in the Rapture;)

    Thank God I never watched this show so it has only been really entertaining (and educational) watching this fracas.

  • Indigobunting

    Say what??? I thought it was the Jews who do all that…………(sarcasm if you didn’t notice)

    Phil worked the media quite well then; so perhaps he is a secret card carrying member ;)

  • Mike

    So he’s a nutjob for being religious? At least he has hope for a better place after he leaves this world that has been destroyed by the greeds of humans. Besides, he never spewed “hate” He never said he hated them, he never said they were less of people. He said he tries to love him. It’s people like you, who twist people’s words to make them fit your agenda.

  • Mike

    But he never said anything racist. You people twist his words. He said, I worked with the blacks in the fields because we were white trash, and that he refused to discriminate against the blacks. So it’s racist now to use the word blacks and fields? Groups get so offended. Why should blacks care what he thinks? Gays talk about how happy they are being themselves, why should they care what one man thinks? They’re only making a big fuss about this because of the publicity they can get

  • bridgette12

    Oh darn it, I can’t understand why any Gay person wouldn’t feel the love when a man calls them deviants, murderers, child molester and various other loving terms. I guess the people he say things about are suppose to read between the lines instead of taking his spoken words as the truth. I understand his supporters trying to support their boy, but when your on the side that has white supremacist and homophobes cheering you on, it not anything to brag on.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Dude. Robertson said he knows of his own knowledge that blacks were happier before the Civil Rights movement.

    As self-proclaimed “white trash,” Robertson could use the public library (important before the internet), shop at any store he liked, eat anywhere he liked, and stay at a motel if he had the money to travel. His black coworkers in the field could do NONE of these things. NONE. To add to the joy, this is an era when the Federal Highway Administration was plowing under established black neighborhoods (with businesses and community life) to build urban highways, thus destroying the fabric of life that the black community had established.

    So yeah, saying the world was better for African-Americans before the Civil Rights movement because they were happily singing in the fields is, at the very minimum, an expression of absolutely oblivious white privilege. That he could hold onto this view as a college-educated adult does kinda point to racism.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Namecalling = instant banning

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    he never said they were less of people.

    Where I come from, calling somebody a murderer or a practitioner of bestiality is not a compliment.

    In the context of the Romans passage that Robertson uses, St. Paul clearly doesn’t mean these terms as compliments. He’s using them to describe the behavior of those who worship false gods, which does, in his eyes, make them lesser and wicked.

    So if Robertson did not mean that the people he’s talking about are lesser and wicked, he was not taking the Bible literally — but his whole claim to truth is Bible literalism. He can’t have it both ways.

  • Porfivor Nixon

    edited out

  • usedtobelucy

    That’s great.

    Last year when Maryland passed Question 6, a number of clergy were involved in the ad campaigns supporting it. Messages were clear and moving, I thought. LIke this one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjbuwRqpvck

  • usedtobelucy

    If you don’t believe the bible, you aren’t really a Murcan. I expect.

  • elliegrll

    Unfortunately, it’s not shocking that Mr. Robertson would say something like this.

    “Look, you wait ‘til they get to be twenty years-old and the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket. You got to marry these girls when they’re about fifteen or sixteen and they’ll pick your ducks.”

    And the video: http://youtu.be/yfAM3dxXLYQ

    Talking about marrying teenagers, because you can manipulate them is okay, but two consenting adults being in a relationship is wrong.

  • elliegrll

    If the people who you refer to were actually silent then so many states wouldn’t have marriage equality, parts of DOMA wouldn’t have been struck down, and so many people wouldn’t have felt compelled to openly come out. That “silent majority” has done a lot to ensure that marriage equality becomes legal in every state, and they have done a lot to show people that gay people just want the same rights as everyone else.

  • iluvai

    I’m glad he got reinstated.

  • Carriefan1

    You yourself are sounding quite judgmental. It’s not that becoming.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Duck Dynasty Pair Due on Fox News’ NYE Show

    Willie Robertson and wife Korie will discuss the recent nine-day suspension of Phil Robertson following anti-gay comments

    http://entertainment.time.com/2013/12/30/duck-dynasty-pair-due-on-fox-news-nye-show/

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Great editorial on Phil’s reinstatement by A&E by Michelangelo Signorile:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/re-duck-dynasty-hollywood_b_4510283.html