Adam Lambert's Lead Album Single Won't Be Time For Miracles

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Michael Slezak of Entertainment Weekly confirms that Adam Lambert’s “Time For Miracles”, appearing in the 2012 film and soundtrack, will not be the lead single off his upcoming album:

For the record, a rep for Adam’s label says ‘Time for Miracles’  won’t be the lead single from Adam’s forthcoming debut disc; a decision on which track they’ll ultimately choose will be made in the next couple of weeks.

I’ll wager the song RCA finally settles on will be an upbeat dance tune, tailor-made to chart on Top 40 radio. In the meantime, “Time for Miracles” has the potential to do very well on Hot Adult Contemporary and Adult Contemporary radio. A two pronged attack that covers all your basic radio formats could find Adam all over the airwaves this coming fall.

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  • PattyH

    I’m betting on an upbeat, great dance song, too. It will be a one, two punch for sure!

  • Cate

    Patty, I agree wholeheartedly. Am dying to see what’s on the plate for us!

  • wordnerdarchie

    You know what? Sorry idol fans, but I couldn’t care less what single is released (or not released next). What will be, will be. Just sit tight and the time will be here for all of the angsting to begin before you know it, so tighten your jock/bra strap and get ready for a wild ride.

  • chessguy99

    Definitely dance vibe, something that could immediately crossover to Rhythmic airplay.

  • Glamour

    Yes, I also think an upbeat dance song will be his first single, but Time For Miracles has sooooo much potential.

    I think it’s about time an Idol had tons of success.

  • elw

    I think Adam and his label know exactly what they’re doing…I’m sooooo excited about how everything is playing out!

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    That timetable will have Adam’s lead single released around 10/26, about a month before his album drops on 11/24.

    Sh*t I knew it.

  • Gigi3

    The video footage in the TfM clip seems to have been shot the same day as the Meat Loaf clip (the one with the DNA test joke.) He’s wearing the same tshirt in both clips, except he has a jacket over it in the TfM footage.

  • luvadamlambert

    I’m glad we have tfm …I think a lot of glamberts were about to go crazy..ier…

  • Sassycatz

    You all want this to be his first single? I haven’t been following Adam except by accident on this site, but I know he’s said that his vibe is electronic pop and this is not that. Now, Idol winners — except Kris — were “saddled” with a song that many times did not represent them at all, but they had to suck it up and take it. So why would someone off of Idol, who didn’t have to, intentionally look to put out a single that was not what they have long wanted to do? Adam appears to be very lucky. He apparently is going to get to release a first CD that is truly what he wants while even Idol winners have had to make compromises. He’s getting a winner’s treatement without any of the demands or compromises they’ve had. So, why look a gift horse in the mouth?

  • anthrogeek

    oops… moved from Headlines thread:

    Buderschnookie: Somehow I don’t think ‘Adam’  needs anything even remotely resembling a ‘slow build’ .
    He’s more about exploding.
    Five weeks is more than enough.

    Gotta agree with ya there, B! Every tidbit that’s gotten out so far has literally exploded within the first few hours, so the minute an actual product is released, it’s gonna be massive. I like the theory behind releasing a single closer to the CD drop date, anyway, since the CD gives people liking the single an outlet for impulse-buying with a bigger bang for the buck. If it’s too far out, the novelty may wear off, or if the song doesn’t do well, people’s expectations for the CD may have worn off by the time it’s out (I hope Kris doesn’t get this sort of backlash).

  • luvadamlambert

    You all want this to be his first single?

    no I want an upbeat dance-y top 40 thing that more ppl will like…

  • Gigi3

    Adam really can sing anything- cabaret tunes, religious songs, dance music, power rock, tender ballads- how many performers are that versatile? It definitely puts him at an advantage as far as finding a wide audience. Don’t like one type of music he does? Try these other four genres. LOL

  • fearbear

    The opportunities that have come Adam’s way are so amazing! I really wish him the best, he’s a tremendous talent.

    Can’t wait for the new single, hope it’s very Lady GaGa-ish!

  • PattyH

    You all want this to be his first single? I

    Um, no! I don’t think anyone said that, did they?

  • girlygirl

    Did anyone really believe TFM would be his first single off the album? I thought they had already said that it wouldn’t even be on the album. Personally, I’m glad — it’s too cheesy a rock ballad — although Adam sounds great. I’m hoping for an upbeat dance/electronic single or a really beautiful non-cheesy song along the lines of Mad World for his first single off the album. To me, TFM isn’t really what Adam has said he wants his music to be like — although, again, he sounds great on it.

  • anthrogeek

    Regarding this Slezak article, I don’t think he’s really “confirming” anything, just repeating what we’ve all heard over the last few weeks, that TFM does not equal the first single. This supposed “rep” said this weeks ago, not yesterday. That’s not news. The only remaining question is exactly WHEN a single will be released and WHICH song. For all we know, it will head TFM off at the pass and still release early next week to coincide with what appears to be the first appearance in the “Adam Storm”, the AMA nominations press conference. Great timing for those casual fans tuning in and saying “oh, yeah…. that Adam dude….”. (Uh,,,yeah, that would NOT be us!).

  • HotHotHot

    You all want this to be his first single?

    Gee, do you think he should have turned down this great opportunity? I think he is popular enough to handle two singles out and TfM may not get that much radio play because it’s not like everything else out there. It’s all good!

  • suebrody

    Well, Adam said that this wouldn’t be the first single on his album (will it even be on there?), and I couldn’t be less surprised that he is going upbeat with his first single (STRUT, I bet!!!). He is going for the power rock ballad here (well, the 2012 peeps are ;)), and I bet it will do well, but I really, really want to hear the first single. Tho, I want to hear the whole TFM song. And, shock, #timeformiracles is still tending #1 on Twitter!!! The Adamaholics have been waiting (it seems) for SO long for a single, and we will take crumbs. But RCA/19 understands, I am sure, that Adam is a very special singer, and he is being treated as such with a carefully thought out roll out of his songs, video and album. They will NOT screw up with him, IMO, the way they have w/ Cook (whom I am going to see tonight, YIPPIE!!!). Yes, they are two very different artists, I get that, but also wildly popular, and maybe RCA learned (plus I bet you Adam has had at least a bit more control than other Idol artists have, tho I could be wrong about that).

    Two weeks till the first single’s release–how excited am I about this???

    ETA: Yep, a one/two punchout. You are not wild about TFM? That’s fine, try (Strut?) THIS. And in any case, his amazing voice gets showcased. Wow, the Adam Storm approaches…shivers, people, shivers.

  • tiger92

    Moved from the headline thread…I can’t keep up…SO much Adam news!!!

    Is it just me or is anyone else worried about the timing of the release of Adam’s single? IF it’s released on 10/19, the most exposure he’s going to get before his album drops on 11/24 is 5 weeks and by exposure I mean, airplay time on the radio, publicity about it, people’s reactions, etc. Kris and Alison both are getting 2 MONTHS exposure before their albums drop. This really concerns me. Did RCA/Sony screw this up for Adam?

    LOL.
    Somehow I don’t think ‘Adam’  needs anything even remotely resembling a ‘slow build’ .
    He’s more about exploding.
    Five weeks is more than enough.

    If a song sucks and it’s going to die, it’s going to die. If a song is awesome and it’s going to expolde, it’s going to explode. 2 months’ ¦1 month, I don’t think it’s going to matter.
    Carrie Underwood released her single two weeks before the album was released. (Those two weeks weren’t great for single sales-country fans were waiting to buy the whole album.) I would say Carrie’s album went on to do ‘pretty good’ . haha I guess RCA didn’t screw that one up.
    RCA knows what they’ve got and I’m sure they have a strategy. They know Adam has massive potential to make huge amounts of money for them. I’m glad RCA didn’t have Adam record a cover and then push it out there quickly. Sooner is not always better. Most worthwhile things are worth waiting for.

  • anijsch

    Imo it will be the interesting question, which of the songs they choose for HAC.

    ‘Time for Miracles’ would fit, but it also would be good for his single to get a shot at that format.

  • dhunken

    Is it just me or is anyone else worried about the timing of the release of Adam’s single? IF it’s released on 10/19, the most exposure he’s going to get before his album drops on 11/24 is 5 weeks and by exposure I mean, airplay time on the radio, publicity about it, people’s reactions, etc. Kris and Alison both are getting 2 MONTHS exposure before their albums drop. This really concerns me. Did RCA/Sony screw this up for Adam?

    This is a good question’ ¦here is my take. (and it concurs with MJ’s take on a two pronged attack) I think the two songs will be so different that there will be no problem of one will succeed and the other one will not. I think it some ways it is a brilliant marketing strategy. He will have two completely different songs from actually two different albums. (his own and 2012 soundtrack) Not everyone will like TFM (as is made abundantly clear by some of the posters here, La la la la la la) but some of those may like his RCA single. Its like a Chef at a fancy restaurant. Some of the patrons will like the Lobster others the Fillet Mignon, some like me will love the entire menu and then there will be some (poor unfortunates) who will not even enter the restaurant and try anything on the menu. So Adam having Two singles out I think just opens up that many more people to what he has cooked up (yeah like how I got back to the Chef Analogy) I think both singles will be huge hits. Well this is my Dream, my wish, my indulgent fantasy. Will it happen, maybe maybe not, but in my travels I have learned that wishes sometimes come true’ ¦(Beside the universe owes me for that whole finale fiasco. Just kidding, just kidding ) :mrgreen:

  • star

    Did anyone really believe TFM would be his first single off the album? I thought they had already said that it wouldn’t even be on the album.

    No, I’ve never thought that based on what Adam’s been saying about it all along.

    I like what I’ve heard of TFM so far, but I’m way more excited to hear Adam’s album single.

    Regarding this Slezak article, I don’t think he’s really ‘confirming’  anything, just repeating what we’ve all heard over the last few weeks, that TFM does not equal the first single. This supposed ‘rep’  said this weeks ago, not yesterday.

    I’ve seen this said a few times…why do people think Slezak is repeating old info? Reading the article, it seems to me he spoke with someone about it yesterday. Just wondering if I missed something.

  • LaurelG

    New thread! Why is it that every time mj opens a new Adam thread I get an image in my head of a herd of thundering wildebeests slowly changing directions en masse? :)

    I think Adam is incredibly lucky to have the opportunity to put two completely different sounds out there at the same time. Given the type of song TFM is, it virtually guarantees that his first single will be more dance-y, Top 40ish. Comparisons will be made and the best outcome is to have people outside the Idol bubble realize what a phenomenal range Adam has.

  • glamatheart

    I’m pretty sure most Adam fans know what TFM is all about – ie. not Adam’s single off his first album. It was an incredible opportunity that came his way and it happens to coincide with the release of his first single/album. It’s a win-win situation in my book. I’m sure Slezak is clarifying for the non or more casual fans. And I don’t think that TFM will be in any way indicative of the music on Adam’s own album(other than the unmistakable, powerhouse vocals). I’m expecting an upbeat, dancy song for his first single and I can’t wait. 2 songs hitting at the same time that cover multiple genres – yeah – I can’t think of the downside of this at all.

    ETA: VERSATILITY seems to scare a lot of people but I don’t get it. It’s not like I listen to a great song and think I can’t/won’t like it because this person is supposed to be x-type of artist (insert country, rock, pop …) If someone can cross genres convincingly (as I believe Adam can) then why the hell not. It’s exciting, not scary!

  • smokeyvera

    Sassykatz, Adam and Kris are both getting the winners treatment – because they were both the top 2 and it could have gone either way. The difference is the philosophy of their music label. So any further discussion on Adam getting it all his way and Kris getting the bus is ludicrous. Kris to date has gotten more than Adam in every way. Adam sells himself, Kris appears to be so laid back and a self-proclaimed procrastinator. Adam is a type A- alpha dog personality and puts himself out there. The best PR is your own PR and being excited about what you are doing is important and you need to exude it.

  • elw

    Dhunken: I love your analogy, I want the surf AND turf :)

  • BestAI

    Adam really can sing anything- cabaret tunes, religious songs, dance music, power rock, tender ballads- how many performers are that versatile? It definitely puts him at an advantage as far as finding a wide audience. Don’t like one type of music he does? Try these other four genres. LOL

    That’s exactly what he said about his music. Something for everyone, including his international fans. When Cowell said Adam has international appeal, I believe they all thought his album would be an eclectic one. Fortunately, as you mentioned, he can sing anything.

  • Tess

    Why does everyone keep trying to put Adam into a box? As he showed on Idol, and many of us know from listening to the performances shown on You Tube, his voice easily moves from rock, to dance, to ballads, to show tunes and a lot inbetween. I predict that Adam will not remain static in what he does…I think we will get a lot of different “stuff” from him if he gets the chance to record more than a few albums.

    Many artists have recorded in and out of their genre…Elvis did a very popular selling album of traditional gospel tunes. So, for me, I don’t really give a rat’s ass where Adam’s tunes are played on radio, or whether he decides to throw in a theatrical diddy on his album. For me it is the voice. There is so much drek out in the music listening sphere that I am forced to listen to it’ll be Ok for me to hear drekking material from Adam….at least I can enjoy his voice.

  • BestAI

    Since Adam’s TfM is coming out next Friday, I’m assuming we’ll be able to hear the entire song before then. Maybe this weekend?

  • PattyH

    The way I feel about Adam and TFM (which I love) is that TFM chose Adam, he did not choose it. It’s not a song he chose and does not reflect what his album will be like. It was too great an offer for he or RCA to turn down. I think it’s a genius decision to do it because it will get him into so many different markets (worldwide) with two, completely different singles. I am so excited! No angst for me, just excitement!

    ETA: Sassycatz, I just realized that I misunderstood your statement. Sorry ’bout that. I don’t think there is anything wrong with TFM coming out first. I think it will peak the interest of some who would have never bought a song from Adam. I see it as very good for both songs.

  • karenw

    I think Adam is incredibly lucky to have the opportunity to put two completely different sounds out there at the same time. Given the type of song TFM is, it virtually guarantees that his first single will be more dance-y, Top 40ish. Comparisons will be made and the best outcome is to have people outside the Idol bubble realize what a phenomenal range Adam has.

    I agree .. it will show his versatility … I know that a lot of people perfer artists to stick to one definitive genre but if a person has more than one string to their bow vocally then I’m more than happy for them to showcase that and as long as I like the sound I’ll by it.

    It’s like when Robbie Williams released his Swing When You’re Winning stuff of Ratpack classics … it didn’t detract from his pop stuff .. just showed a different side to him and it also helped him reach a wider audience who may not have been interested in his pop stuff.

    Adam’s the kind of artist where some people aren’t going to like all that he does but somewhere along the line he’ll provide something for everyone.

  • LisaE

    Can’t wait for the new single, hope it’s very Lady GaGa-ish!

    I hope it’s unique so there are no comparisons. I also hope it sounds nothing like Allison’s pop/rock/electro disaster. Adam was never going to go wrong with a classic rock ballad. He could go disastrously wrong with something dancey. I’m so glad he came out with “Time for Miracles” first so that fans have both.

  • Tess

    karenw
    October 10, 2009 at 1:49 pm …

    it’s eerie when someone posts exactly what you are thinking. Either we have been at MJs too long or there is a wide spread feeling that “some” Artists are totally capable of singing outside their popular spot in the public conscience.

    Now…how many people would listen to Kanye or Britney sing out of their box. Alrighty then…on to the next subject.

  • tiger92

    I think it some ways it is a brilliant marketing strategy. He will have two completely different songs from actually two different albums. (his own and 2012 soundtrack) Not everyone will like TFM (as is made abundantly clear by some of the posters here, La la la la la la) but some of those may like his RCA single. Its

    At this point, I think those who dislike Adam and his voice are going to continue to feel that way no matter what kind of song he puts out. I really don’t expect them to change their minds, nor do I care. (and I don’t think it will matter when it comes to single,album sales)

    The big question is will Adam be able to pick up people outside the AI bubble? TFM will reach many people who don’t follow AI as well as many who can’t.(international movie watchers) I really see no downside to having a song on a movie that is going to be shown worldwide.

  • suebrody

    I want to hear the whole song. :)

    I think that RCA screwed up with Bar-ba-sol and didn’t do an adequate job of marketing it. I can’t see this being the case with TFM/TBD (first track off album). I absolutely believe that they will both get lots of p.r. I think that TFM will go to AC and HAC (mix plays ToML, LO, CBTM, and every Daughtry track released, as well as Heartless, tho no LLWD yet–no clue why, so will probably play TFM) but would NOT have played Bar-ba-sol. Do not know about Adam’s 1st single. I also do not think they would play both, but I dunno. I mean, they will probably (?) play LLWD at some point–they are still calling Already Gone new–but will continue, I am sure, to play Heartless.

    No worries. I am with you, PattyH. Two songs for Adam=two different songs to choose from (or maybe both!!!). I am waiting patiently (ha ha, not reallly) for the pr to begin. ADAM STORM!

    ETA: I will download TFM from iTunes (hopefully it will be available soon!). I pre-ordered the album from amazon, but if there is a deluxe edition from Best Buy or from Walmart, I will change to that one. I am def downloading from iTunes.

  • Susan M.

    Well I’m psyched and glad we have confirmation, but I never thought for a minute that TFM was going to be his first single as emphatically said by Adam in the second Lyndsey interview. I gave always looked at TFM as an awesome bonus – if it takes off, killer! More exposure to a rock/male demo and an international audience. If it doesn’t take off? No harm, no foul – he didn’t write the song or choose it in any way (though I flove what I’ve heard). This will be a one-two punch, and I predict they’ll follow the dancy/pop single up with a ballad, which will keep showing all sides of him.

    I totally agree with your restaurant analogy, dhunken! I’m the type that lives everything on the menu and always have a difficult time choosing one thing. More variety the better!

    Bring it, BB!!

  • HotHotHot

    Adam CD is back up to #6 on the Bestsellers list. Amazon says release date is 10/16 but not available until 10/20, so I think that means that we will hear the whole song on 10/16 but not be able to buy it until 10/20. Only my interpretation, of course.

  • Cate

    I’m glad we have tfm ‘ ¦I think a lot of glamberts were about to go crazy..ier’ ¦

    luv, if I see any, I’ll let you know :) I’m more of a wildebeast myself!

  • Q3

    Amazon put up TfM but you can’t actually pre-order it yet. I got this message.

    Important Message
    We’re sorry. Time For Miracles, cannot be purchased via the Shopping Cart. Click here to return to the product detail page and follow the instructions to purchase this item.

    Amazon says release date is 10/16 but not available until 10/20, so I think that means that we will hear the whole song on 10/16 but not be able to buy it until 10/20. Only my interpretation, of course.

    TfM has an on sale date listed as 10/16 on Amazon UK, France and Germany. I think that it will go on sale on Friday 10/16 and that one 10/20 reference in the US is a mistake. Like what happened with LLWD release date in the US.

    ETA: 2012 Soundtrack is now #5 on Amazon’s Movers & Shakers list and up to #206 Music.

  • Cate

    SusanM, that’s too funny. I can never decide what to order! In this case, I will treat Adam’s output as a glorious smorgasbord and at least try some of each and fill up on my favorites.

  • dhunken

    At this point, I think those who dislike Adam and his voice are going to continue to feel that way no matter what kind of song he puts out. I really don’t expect them to change their minds, nor do I care. (and I don’t think it will matter when it comes to single,album sales)

    The big question is will Adam be able to pick up people outside the AI bubble? TFM will reach many people who don’t follow AI as well as many who can’t.(international movie watchers) I really see no downside to having a song on a movie that is going to be shown worldwide.

    Tiger92 I agree with you. I was not taking about people who have already decided that Adam is not their cup of tea. I was talking about people who don’t know anything about him. Some of them will Like TFM and Some will like his RCA single. Either way that will be newer consumers of Adam’s Music. All good.

  • anthrogeek

    Tess: Now’ ¦how many people would listen to Kanye or Britney sing out of their box. Alrighty then’ ¦on to the next subject.

    Precisely. I do not recall EVER hearing any speculation, much less HOPE, that the next Britney or Kanye CD would contain selections as far-ranging as Tibetan whistling, Gregorian chants, Mozart arias, Parliament funk, Aerorock, and Madonnica. Certain disaster for anyone else, but for our boy…..? International smash hit of epic proportions.

    Disclaimer: this post contains no hyperbole whatsoever, and that’s a fact.

  • Krickette

    I really like TFM! When do you think they will start showing the video for it? Before the release date to generate sales? Or After?

  • elw

    I think I’m more wound up about Adam now then I was in the spring when he was on Idol. I can’t seem to get anything done because I keep checking MJ’s and surfing the web for more info. HELP:)

  • Cate

    Now, Idol winners ‘” except Kris ‘” were ‘saddled’  with a song that many times did not represent them at all,…

    um,,,I agree completely.

  • Squirrely

    I’ll wager the song RCA finally settles on will be an upbeat dance tune, tailor-made to chart on Top 40 radio. In the meantime, ‘Time for Miracles’  has the potential to do very well on Hot Adult Contemporary and Adult Contemporary radio. A two pronged attack that covers all your basic radio formats could find Adam all over the airwaves this coming fall.

    Oh MJ I like how you think!

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    You all want this to be his first single?

    No Sassycatz. My

    Sh*t

    comment above was a reflection on the delayed Album single release date not on TFM not being his single.

    In fact that’s why I’m a bit worried about the delayed single release. I don’t want TFM to be Adam’s first post idol introduction to the public.

  • mgk

    I’m sure there are reasons, but I’ve never understood releasing a single months in advance of the album. I guess it would allow you to release something new before the album comes out, if the first song doesn’t take off, but if the song’s a hit it’s kind of played out by the time the album is available to buy.

    I love the song snippets so far, but I’m glad that TFM isn’t his first single. Two Adam songs are always going to be better than one. TFM showcases his voice so well, and hopefully the single will keep him from being pigeonholed.

  • dhunken

    Ok…confession time….. I have been listening to the snippets (both versions) of “Time for Miracles” since 8am this morning (now 2:11pm) non stop, over and over again and I grow to love it more and more. Question: Can a snippet of a song Chart? (just kidding, just kidding) ;-)

  • suebrody

    I disagree, Cate, if I am reading you right (and I may not be). I do not think Carrie was. Was Kelly? Adam gets two, and I have a feeling that TFM will not be as popular as upbeat song X, only b/c I think upbeat song X will be more representative of the kind of music he wants to make.

    OTOH, FG is my favorite recorded version of his performances, followed by MW and One (One sucked, IMO, Top 3 but is BEAUTIFUL in its recorded version). So who knows? I loved Starlight more than SL on Tour, and that surprised me.

    I’m gonna come home from the Cook (!) concert tonight and wade through 500 posts, aren’t I? Live is good for an Adamaholic! ;)

  • Q3

    Not sure why we needed Slezak to “confirm” what Adam has said in several interviews — TfM is a separte project from his album. He has said the same thing since the beginning.

    Adam also said he planned to do a multigenre album — based on his collaborators it looks like that is will be multigenre and certainly interesting. We have Rob Cavallo and Meatloaf’s drummer (maybe the rest of Meatloaf’s band), some of the best electro producers and beat masters in the business (RedOne, Dr. Luke, etc.), AC masters (Ryan Tedder, Max Martin), a Country songwriter (Aimee Mayo) collaborating with Ferras Alqaisi (piano rock/pop songwriter), Kara Di (hopefully the good Kara), a full string orchestra and a seeming endless list of other talented folks working on this.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Ugh. Let Rickey pimp his own affiliates. This is my site. Use this link:

    http://mjsbigblog.com/adam-lambert-2012-movie-soundtrack-now-available-at-amazon.htm

  • suebrody

    MJ, do you think Rickey liked TFM or was just being facetious? I can never tell with him.

    You always get my $$$. :)

  • Finn

    Q3
    October 10, 2009 at 2:22 pm
    Not sure why we needed Slezak to ‘confirm’  what Adam has said in several interviews ‘” TfM is a separte project from his album. He has said the same thing since the beginning.

    Maybe that’s for the general public that would not have heard about it.

  • dhunken

    Adam also said he planned to do a multigenre album ‘” based on his collaborators it looks like that is will be multigenre and certainly interesting.

    Q3 since you are so fantastic at trivia…Has there every been an music artist that has put out an eclectic album and been successful in different genres. I vaguely remember certain groups in the 80 cross over. Yaz and Culture Club I know crossed over and was big on the R&B charts. But I don’t think that was intentionally designed to happen. I think this is where Adam may bring out something new to the industry. Artist producing multi genre Albums. (since single sales seem to be trending toward the way of the future) Whats your take. I would like your opinion too MJ

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    MJ, do you think Rickey liked TFM or was just being facetious? I can never tell with him.

    I don’t know. I haven’t asked him.

  • BestAI

    I seriously think TfM will at a min be moderately successful. Adam fans will buy it (look at his album sales). For those indifferent to Adam – some will buy it because it is their type of music and/or loving the voice; the rest will not because it is not their cuppa. Since it is going international, all the more people exposed to the song, and same reasons to buy/not buy for them too.

    For Adam? As he probably would say. It was an honor just to be asked to record this. This song will surely put him on the international map. 19/RCA execs are probably jumping up and down, because this fell into their laps.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Not sure why we needed Slezak to ‘confirm’  what Adam has said in several interviews ‘” TfM is a separte project from his album. He has said the same thing since the beginning.

    I was talking more the timetable for the single. All that stuff you rattled off, yes, we already know that.

  • advern

    Tess:

    it’s eerie when someone posts exactly what you are thinking.

    Yes – that’s one of those thoughts…
    and another one, from Tess also:

    So, for me, I don’t really give a rat’s ass where Adam’s tunes are played on radio, or whether he decides to throw in a theatrical diddy on his album. For me it is the voice. There is so much drek out in the music listening sphere that I am forced to listen to it’ll be Ok for me to hear drekking material from Adam’ ¦.at least I can enjoy his voice.

    …with one exception: I strongly believe that there is not chance in h@ll that there will be any drekking material from Adam’ ¦

  • greeneyedlady

    Ok’ ¦confession time’ ¦.. I have been listening to the snippets (both versions) of ‘Time for Miracles’  since 8am this morning (now 2:11pm) non stop, over and over again and I grow to love it more and more. Question: Can a snippet of a song Chart? (just kidding, just kidding)

    LOL! I’m with you, dhunken! I know I’m going to love this song. I’m a sucker for this type of song, cheesy or not. Can’t really imagine anyone else currently out there recording it. For me, it was Celine’s voice that lifted My Heart Will Go On into loveliness (for me). In someone else’s hands, it could have been schlock.

    As for liking whatever Adam puts out, I’m not kidding myself that there won’t be songs on the album that I won’t absolutely love. But I’ve heard nothing from him so far that I can’t listen to and appreciate on some level. The only songs I couldn’t get into on AI were PTFM and BTBW (although the live performance was HOT!), and I don’t actually think either of these represents the type of music he’ll record. So I’m probably going to be a happy person.

    Okay, I’m ready for another leak now…. :)

  • Natasha

    At this point, I think those who dislike Adam and his voice are going to continue to feel that way no matter what kind of song he puts out.

    Agree. He’s sung so many different styles that if you don’t like his voice by now I think you can safely throw in the towel.

    Somewhere around October 26th sounds good enough to me. It’s still a little weird to me that everyone else around Adam’s date seems to already have a single out but maybe they’re counting on TFM to hold people over.

  • sanduskyday

    Anything Adam decides to do will be the most incredible artistic achievement we see in 2009/2010. I think we can all agree on that. I had chill bumps over my entire body listening to his Miracle song, and yes I believe his voice is a Miracle. God given talent like Adam’s only comes around once in a lifetime.

  • Sassycatz

    Sassykatz, Adam and Kris are both getting the winners treatment ‘“ because they were both the top 2 and it could have gone either way. The difference is the philosophy of their music label. So any further discussion on Adam getting it all his way and Kris getting the bus is ludicrous.

    I wasn’t comparing Adam to Kris, I was comparing Adam to all the Idol winners who have had their wings clipped. I thought Kris got off easy being able to dump “No Boundaries,” but we’ll see whether that consideration spilled over to his album.

  • greeneyedlady

    From Brian May, posted today at his website:

    ADAM LAMBERT AND 2012

    Well, I had nothing whatever to do with making this record … but it seems I unwittingly contributed to its promotion. Well, I have no problem with that. In the same studio on the same day, my friend Mr. Meat Loaf did a great promotion job on our AVLF 3-D book!

    Well, take a look at the 2012 promo vid. I can’t wait to see the film … seems like the logical successor to Independence Day. Huge. And … well, the track speaks for itself. Also Huge. Great job.

    Cheers
    Bri

    The link:
    http://www.brianmay.com/whatsnew.html

    *squeal*

  • BestAI

    About 11,000 views of one of the TfM (30 second one) in less than one day, and now there are numerous others uploaded. Can you imagine those obsessesive people listeninng to 30-second snippet of a song ? (running back to listen again…)

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    This supposed ‘rep’  said this weeks ago, not yesterday.

    Slezak and other reporters from major publications have access to the Idol’s reps. They are just a phone call away. Slezak spoke with them recently, I’m sure.

  • Q3

    suebrody: I’m gonna come home from the Cook (!) concert tonight and wade through 500 posts, aren’t I? Live is good for an Adamaholic!

    You can bet on it!

    I do not know if the Amazon release dates mean anything. The UK site, for example, had Adam’s TBC Album listed as releasing on 12/7/09 for a couple of months before they fixed it. But Amazon now has a bunch of new dates on TfM’s. Every site with TfM lists a release date of 10/16/09 but the available dates are all over the place.

    US – release 10/16/09 available 10/20/09
    UK – release 10/16/09 available 10/25/09
    France – release 10/16/09 available 10/19/09
    Germany – release 10/16/09 available 12/4/09

    And I can’t find anything on iTunes about a release date.

  • Janus

    Has there every been an music artist that has put out an eclectic album and been successful in different genres.

    Well, there’s Queen (Night at the Opera is a good example). I mean they even had multiple genres within one song (Bohemian Rhapsody anyone?). However, as I hardly ever listen to the radio, I can’t speak to airplay, but as far as a multi-genre album I don’t think Adam will be unique in this.

  • BestAI

    Rod is green again. Adam’s at #6 now.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Michael Buble got the Oprah treatment, yesterday, and shot up to #1 on Amazon. The power of the Oprah. It cannot be denied.

    This supposed ‘rep’  said this weeks ago, not yesterday.

    I think Adam said this weeks ago, not a rep. Coming from a rep makes it official, because, honestly? If the label wanted to include TMF, they’d do it.

  • dhunken

    but as far as a multi-genre album I don’t think Adam will be unique in this.

    You are correct and I did not explain myself correctly…I meant as far as today’s standards go. I think currently Artist are pigeonholed in one genre and are discouraged to vie away from the format. I find most of today’s music to be robotic. Autotuning may have a lot to do with why I feel that way.

  • dhunken

    Q3 did you see my post to you where I asked you and MJ a question?

  • Janus

    I think currently Artist are pigeonholed in one genre and are discouraged to vie away from the format. I find most of today’s music to be robotic. Autotuning may have a lot to do with why I feel that way.

    Oh, yeah, I think your right — which is probably why I find a lot of the current music too boring. I think Muse is one group that’s trying to be different in this regard. It will be interesting to see how all this pans out for Adam.

  • gangreen29

    I will admit I was not a fan of Adam’s performances on the show, but I liked his pre idol stuff and think he has a chance to make fun, relevant music unlike the old tired played out stuff he did on the show. Thank god it appears like his album will be taking a much different turn though, because if TFM was indicative of the music he would be making I think we would have another Bo Bice, Kat Mcphee, or Blake Lewis on our hands.

  • dhunken

    Upon my 2000 listen of the snippet (give or take) There is a quality to his voice that reminds me of when he sang “Want” (yeah I bought it, I know I know, bad fan bad fan) (Don’t judge me) ;-)

  • EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis

    A multi-genre/ecletic album isn’t scary or off-putting to me at all. Where I grew up, radio played a list of various music; things were not as compartmentalized.

    Today, I listen to a very unstructured mix of music. I enjoy reggae, soca, rock, soft rock, alt. rock, indie, r&b, some rap, classical, jazz, country, etc., etc. As long as it is done well, I’m all for eclecticism.

    So bring it on Mr. Lambert, let’s see what you’ve got! When I wanna shake what my mama gave me, you’ll be there; feeling introspective, you’ll be there; needing to cry for the pure joie de vivre, you’ll be there. Heck, w/TfM, if I’m needing to break out the vino & provolone, you are so there!

  • Susan M.

    You are correct and I did not explain myself correctly’ ¦I meant as far as today’s standards go. I think currently Artist are pigeonholed in one genre and are discouraged to vie away from the format. I find most of today’s music to be robotic. Autotuning may have a lot to do with why I feel that way.

    See, this is what confuses me because cross-over artists are often those I enjoy the most. I do NOT care for country at all, but have very much enjoyed Carrie’s BHC and other female country cross-overs. Same with BEPs and other Hip Hop cross-overs. I like it when artists genre hop.

    I think Adam said this weeks ago, not a rep. Coming from a rep makes it official, because, honestly? If the label wanted to include TMF, they’d do it.

    You’re right and this is also what really excites me. RCA doesn’t appear to be relying on TFM at all, so they obviously feel they have enough strong material for Adam’s album that they do not need to include it. It’s a bonus all the way around.

    From what I’ve gathered here, “Breakaway” was added to Kelly’s album once it was used for “The Princess Diaries,” correct? At that time they judged that the notoriety was worth it.

    TFM and TBD? Double the pleasure, double the fun ‘“  I’m all for it.

  • lakato

    Michael Buble got the Oprah treatment, yesterday, and shot up to #1 on Amazon. The power of the Oprah. It cannot be denied.

    There is a place on the Ophrah website that asks: REALITY TV STARS: Who do you want to see on Oprah?

    https://www.oprah.com/plugform.jsp?plugId=2760627&referer=http://www.oprah.com/index

  • dhunken

    TFM and TBD? Double the pleasure, double the fun ‘“ I’m all for it.

    I smell ad campaign! ;-)

  • Calliope

    You are correct and I did not explain myself correctly’ ¦I meant as far as today’s standards go. I think currently Artist are pigeonholed in one genre and are discouraged to vie away from the format. I find most of today’s music to be robotic. Autotuning may have a lot to do with why I feel that way.

    Mika is one. Robbie Williams dominated for awhile as well. Those are the two that come to mind. Neither have really broke the US, but have had quite the worldwide success, probably due to how the US radio system operates so differently and is more stuck on genres, niche and is affected by regional differences. I do think Christina Aguilera and Pink change it up a bit as well, just all under the pop umbrella (which is more forgiving of a diverse sound than other genres since it is such a loose term anyway).

    If RCA/19 really meant it and are going to take Adam international, that’s probably why they wouldn’t shy away from a multi-genre album since there is a lot of money to be made outside of the US. That doesn’t mean they will ignore the US audience either, but I’m thinking his singles will probably be the more dance-pop/electropop stuff if it is a diverse album.

  • sanduskyday

    So bring it on Mr. Lambert, let’s see what you’ve got! When I wanna shake what my mama gave me, you’ll be there; feeling introspective, you’ll be there; needing to cry for the pure joie de vivre, you’ll be there. Heck, w/TfM, if I’m needing to break out the vino & provolone, you are so there!

    I could not have said it better myself. Nothing goes better with my chips and dip than my beautiful glittery alien.

  • ilovemj

    I can’t wait for Adam’s album to come cause it’s going to be filled with CHR/Top 40 material that 99.999% of the people here say that they hate and abhore! Meltdown ensues!

    The afterlife would certainly be better than hearing more of his material. LOL

  • dhunken

    Mika is one. Robbie Williams dominated for awhile as well. Those are the two that come to mind. Neither have really broke the US, but have had quite the worldwide success, probably due to how the US radio system differs so differently and is more stuck on genres, niche and is affected by regional differences. I do think Christina Aguilera and Pink change it up a bit as well, just all under the pop umbrella (which is more forgiving of a diverse sound than other genres since it is such a loose term anyway).

    Thanks Calliope that was very informative. Yeah I agree with the Foreign market being not so pigeonholed (and for that reason the have some of the better more creative artist). I love Mika and Robbie Williams and Muse. I hope they do style Adams Album more towards that type of concepts. (though not exactly like any of them) I agree also with the Christina and Pink thought. Pop is such a loose term.

  • Q3

    Has there every been an music artist that has put out an eclectic album and been successful in different genres.

    Yes, Elvis and Elton John both released albums that had hit singles in different genres. I sure there are others, but it is rare — usually male soloists or bands with a star frontman.

    I think multi-genre albums were more common in the late 50′s through the mid-80′s. A few examples:

    Elvis released a number of multigenre albums. His #2 album in 1956 contained 2 new Rock & Roll songs, 3 Little Richard R&B/Rock covers, 3 new country ballads, 1 rockabilly song, and the 1933 country classic “Old Shep”.

    The Beatles albums are classified as rock they span multiple genres. I think The White Album may be the most eclectic #1 album ever produced — it contained “Revolution 9″, “Back in the USSR”, “Blackbird”, “Martha My Dear”, “Helter Skelter”, “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” and on and on.

    Elton John “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road” album 1973: singles included:
    “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road” Pop , “Saturday Night’s Alright For Fighting” Glam Rock, “Bennie and The Jets”, “Candle In The Wind” Rock ballad

    Queen “The Fame” album 1980: “Crazy Little Thing Called Love” rockabilly, “Another One Bites the Dust” funk rock (#1 US Billboard Hot 100, #2 on the R&B charts, on the Disco Top 100), plus a few hard rock songs.

    There are many top selling concept albums that contain songs in more than one genre — like Pink Floyd “Dark Side of the Moon”. And there are a lot of contemporaty albums that get a single genre label but are really eclectic like Cowboy Junkies “The Trinity Session” – genre = country rock but it contains country, blues, folk, and alternative rock songs.

  • dhunken

    I can’t wait for Adam’s album to come cause it’s going to be filled with CHR/Top 40 material that 99.999% of the people here say that they hate and abhore! Meltdown ensues!

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%…Never felt so alone….Oh wait I’ll have Adam and his music…Whew!!! better already… :-)

  • frogcooke

    “I can’t wait for Adam’s album to come cause it’s going to be filled with CHR/Top 40 material that 99.999% of the people here say that they hate and abhore! Meltdown ensues!”

    I cant agree with this enough!

  • ilovemj

    I cant agree with this enough!

    Cookies, Chips, and Pringles for you <3 Don’t eat too much!

  • dsp

    When I heard TFM I thought maybe I was wrong, and Adam is going to put out the same crap he did on the show to appeal to all the over the hill housewives obsessed with him.

    Well i partially fall into that category…. an over the hill professional woman …as do many others on this site. i listen to all types of music and drive with my windows down and singing to Lady GAGA…I think Adam appreciates all of his fans regardless of our ages.

  • pringles

    Oh my, I ran-not-walked to my computer once I got the news that there was a snippet of the biggest debut ever from the biggest, most promising artist out there had leaked and I must say I am disappointed! A cheesy medley, a thin screechy voice? My god, I never expected this from Adam! This is really bad, I am sorry. If this is going to be infesting HAC, and if there is more of this to spread on CHR, it is Time for Me to stop listening to radio for the year. It’s that bad. Luckily, it won’t be long before the buzz dies down and the airwaves will be safe again…

  • dhunken

    Yes, Elvis and Elton John both released albums that had hit singles in different genres. I sure there are others, but it is rare ‘” usually male soloists or bands with a star frontman.

    I think multi-genre albums were more common in the late 50′s through the mid-80′s. A few examples:

    Thanks Q3 I knew you would know. So it is not unheard of for an eclectic Album to be successful. Wow if Adam does pull this off and is successful in multi-genres the comparisons to Elvis will just increase. (Being he was one of the few artist who succeeded in releasing a successful multi-genre album)

  • wordnerdarchie

    Ok, I don’t think I’ve given my opinion of this song yet, so here it goes. I really don’t like what I’m hearing on this small audio clip of Adam’s song.

    But as a disclaimer, the only song of his that I enjoyed was “Mad World”. I’ve been waiting for him to change my mind, but so far he hasn’t done it.

    Maybe his single off of the CD will impress me more.

  • Calliope

    I love Mika and Robbie Williams and Muse. I hope they do style Adams Album more towards that type of concepts. (though not exactly like any of them) I agree also with the Christina and Pink thought. Pop is such a loose term

    Pop is such a loose term, so I think Adam can be diverse under that pop umbrella, whether it is in the Mika or Pink way.

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%

    Same here. I quite like a fair bit of the songs in the Top 40 and love pop music, along with my more obscure stuff.

  • Q3

    gangreen29: I will admit I was not a fan of Adam’s performances on the show, but I liked his pre idol stuff and think he has a chance to make fun, relevant music unlike the old tired played out stuff he did on the show. Thank god it appears like his album will be taking a much different turn though, because if TFM was indicative of the music he would be making I think we would have another Bo Bice, Kat Mcphee, or Blake Lewis on our hands.

    The only past Idol that TfM reminds me of is Kelly — and in my book that is a compliment to both Kelly and Adam. However, I think the song is far more suited to Adam.

  • sanduskyday

    The snack food references are interesting. My gorgeous glittery star is every bit as wholesome and authentic as a can of my beloved Pringles.

  • aa618892

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%

    Count me in.

  • yinyang

    I loved Adam’s performances on the show, but think that his album will be far more current, based on the writers and producers he’s working with, as well as all that he has said about the album. But, time will tell what it’s really like. The one thing that we know for sure is that Adam will be singing on the album, and many of us would agree that Adam has an amazing voice. (And, some of you dislike his voice. It’s great that we don’t all have to agree.)

    I think that the timing of the new CD is likely to coincide with some PR events, (performances? TV shows?), that will make the single release a bigger event.

    How fortunate for Adam that he can have 2 singles out, showing his range, (I assume that the album’s single will be different than TFM, though we don’t yet know for sure), and potentially giving him a chance to get played on various radio stations that play different genres. This is all very exciting for Adam, I’m sure, and I’m looking forward to hearing the music.

  • sidewalkstory

    A cheesy medley, a thin screechy voice? My god, I never expected this from Adam!

    I don’t get how people can be surprised by TFM. Adam delivered exactly what he said he was going to deliver. A classic rock ballad.

    brie and any grapes if they’re still in the house, please.

  • frogcooke

    Well I also think his voice is thin and screechy, but c’est la vie.

  • IGetCranked

    I can’t wait for Adam’s album to come cause it’s going to be filled with CHR/Top 40 material that 99.999% of the people here say that they hate and abhore!

    I’ve never understood that mentality. That is what a lot of artists strive for and by the looks of the people Adam is working with , he is too.

  • ilovemj

    I’ve never understood that mentality. That is what a lot of artists strive for and by the looks of the people Adam is working with , he is too.

    YES, Cranked! Adam’s going to be a LITE male version of Lady Gaga. Mark my words! Chips for you!

  • Janus

    A cheesy medley

    Was there more than one song in there? Did I miss something?

  • frogcooke

    “I’ve never understood that mentality. That is what a lot of artists strive for and by the looks of the people Adam is working with , he is too.”

    Right, i see so many people say they dont like top 40 or they dont listen to it etc etc, yet they are so sure they will love adams material.. He’s gonna cater right towards the top 40, thats what they wanna do.

  • Q3

    So it is not unheard of for an eclectic Album to be successful. Wow if Adam does pull this off and is successful in multi-genres the comparisons to Elvis will just increase. (Being he was one of the few artist who succeeded in releasing a successful multi-genre album)

    ETA: #timeformiracles is still on Twitter Trends at #6 — that’s over 12 hours now.

    If the music is good, I can’t imagine that the album will fail merely because it is multi-genre (if it is). It seems to me that a multi-genre album is want most Adam fans want.

    Aside from the fact that I know it will be a very commercial pop album with a rock edge, and have a couple of ballads, and some dance tracks with electro beats, I honestly don’t know what to expect. I’m just glad that it looks like it might include a power ballad with a string orchestra and some real unaltered vocals. (I cannot believe that someone would produce a song with a string orchestra and then synth the vocals.)

    But unless this album is a monster hit — which really seems unlikely in the current market — I don’t think that there will be many comparisons to Elvis when Adam’s album is released. On the tour Adam did channel Elvis a bit — particurly in Memphis — but that was about style/appearance only. The music business has changed drastically in the past 50 years. I don’t expect anything on the album to be reminesent of Elvis — including the sales.

  • mr

    “Thin and screechy?”

    Well, no one can screech like Adam Lambert.

    Electric guitars? Yes. Human beings? No.

    Adam Lambert? F***ing yes and I’ll take that screeching over any other sound out there.

    The end of Born to be wild and parts of Crawl thru Fire are the most awsome pieces of singing (screeching) I’ve ever heard in my life- EVER!

  • dsp

    So will we get the full version of the song before Friday if it will go on sale Friday???

  • Truthiness

    ‘ ¦with one exception: I strongly believe that there is not chance in h@ll that there will be any drekking material from Adam’ ¦

    And see I personally believe there is not a chance in hell Adam’s album won’t have a high amount of dreck and/or tripe. The idea that he and he alone is going to manage to be different from every other AI person before him, just doesn’t do it for me. I like Adam, but no, I don’t think his instincts, skills or pull are good, or big enough, to avoid it. And that’s okay, I’m fine with liking 3 songs.

    Oh generalizations kind of suck for a reason, not all Adam fans are over-the-hill housewives (I know I’m none of that) and not all of us, regardless of age, will somehow cry in pain if GASP Adam creates some Top 40 pop/synth electronic thing…he’s said many times he intends on doing. I think most Adam fans are looking for the electic in his album because they know they aren’t going to like part of what he does. For me it’s also because I know there will be a high dreck/tripe factor and I think people are fooling themselves if they think otherwise. But for some they enjoy his voice enough that they will enjoy many different genres he might do, others might not. Adam’s fanbase is not monolithic, no fanbase is.

    But sincerely, thanks pringles for the thoughts. As mj says this is not a fansite and all people should be welcomed for disagreeing and being free to share their opinion, so thanks for doing so. I really appreciate it. I disagree with it, but that’s okay too. I also disagree with gangreen29 especially aboout the stuff you said about Adam’s fanbase as well and what he did during the show, but hey, we should also feel free to disagree with each other. That’s cool as well. I mean as long as we’re not dicks about how we say it.

    ETA: because clarity is eluding me today. Sorry.

  • dhunken

    But unless this album is a monster hit ‘” which really seems unlikely in the current market ‘” I don’t think that there will be many comparisons to Elvis when Adam’s album is released. On the tour Adam did channel Elvis a bit ‘” particurly in Memphis ‘” but that was about style/appearance only. The music business has changed drastically in the past 50 years. I don’t expect anything on the album to be reminesent of Elvis ‘” including the sales.

    I know was just having an indulgent fantasy.

  • IGetCranked

    The idea that he and he alone is going to manage to be different from every other AI person before him, just doesn’t do it for me.

    He better because I’ve never seen another idol get the amount of money etc.. spent on him.

  • pringles

    There is a professional evaluation of Adam’s voice? Please link it and I am sure it’ll help me enjoy that sound…

    And my opinion is crap?> My only motive is that I think it is bad….yes, outside of this bubble, there will be plenty of people who didn’t like it,

    edit: please don’t rehash season 8

  • HotHotHot

    Well, I think I’ll wait until I hear the single and album before I get all angsty. I’m pretty sure I’ll like at least some of the music on his album, because for me it is his voice that sells it. ;)

  • NewFan

    Hey Q3:

    You’re absolutely right but, on the other hand,

    Elvis had a beautiful voice, was a handsome man, appealed to people of all ages, could dance, was polarizing, was respected by his peers and was incredibly well-loved by exceptionally devoted fans.

    I’d say that, so far, Adam deserves, or is quickly earning, the Elvis comparison in all of these ways. And that’ll do.

    Nobody puts out their best, most ground-breaking work when they’re fresh out of the blocks.

  • lob

    HotHotHot
    October 10, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Well, I think I’ll wait until I hear the single and album before I get all angsty. I’m pretty sure I’ll like at least some of the music on his album, because for me it is his voice that sells it. ;)

    Always the voice – if the voice is not hidden beneath extensive production there is a very good chance that I’m gonna like most of what he puts out. I’m looking forward to the next couple of months :D.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Thought I’d post some good news.

    #timeformiracles has now been trending for an entire 24 hours.

    Both Ryan and Richard Rushfield, as well as Claude Kelly, Sony music and the usual Idol suspects have tweeted about TFM, Richard quoting Keats no less – thank you Richard. Not bad for a cheesy song for a disaster movie, ay?

    I’m ecstatic about TFM. Can’t stop listening to it. Can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

  • dhunken

    pringles
    October 10, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    There is a professional evaluation of Adam’s voice? Please link it and I am sure it’ll help me enjoy that sound’ ¦

    Here is a link. These people have no love relationship with idol. They are professional music geeks. Who perodically rank the best rock vocalist of all time. Adam is on their list as #1 for best live vocal for Heaven on the Minds. and ranked #2 for technically skilled. A clay fan tried to get Clay on the list and they politely laughed at him. The thread has 37 pages you can go back and forth on it. I respect that you are open to a least see what Professionals think about him and who have no investment in him. Oh and I really don’t think this will make you like him any better. There are a bunch of rock singers on their list that though technically fantastic I don’t care for too much

    http://forums.nutsie.com/viewtopic.php?t=54895&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=525&sid=a6533141b0dc4709c1ef8da9d750aa98

  • ilovemj

    I’d say that, so far, Adam deserves, or is quickly earning, the Elvis comparison in all of these ways. And that’ll do.

    He hasn’t even done anything remotely near what Elvis was able to accomplish and you want to compare the two of them. Elvis is probably turning on his grave right now! :(

  • Janus

    Both Ryan and Richard Rushfield, as well as Claude Kelly, Sony music and the usual Idol suspects have tweeted about TFM, Richard quoting Keats no less ‘“ thank you Richard. Not bad for a cheesy song for a disaster movie, ay?

    And Brian May weighed in once again from his soapbox.

  • alaadam

    Rod is green again. Adam’s at #6 now.

    Rod is still green but Adam is at #5 now.

  • Susan M.
  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Oh for crying out loud. I can’t leave my effing house for an hour without all hell breaking loose? WTF? Dial it back people, and that goes for ALL of you.

  • sanduskyday

    I’d say that, so far, Adam deserves, or is quickly earning, the Elvis comparison in all of these ways. And that’ll do.

    Why yes I can picture Adam bloated and passed out on a bathroom floor in 15 years so maybe you have a point.

    yes!

  • dhunken

    sanduskyday
    October 10, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    I’d say that, so far, Adam deserves, or is quickly earning, the Elvis comparison in all of these ways. And that’ll do.

    Why yes I can picture Adam bloated and passed out on a bathroom floor in 15 years so maybe you have a point.

    yes!

    OK Adam fan here but have to admit this is funny!! :-)

  • Truthiness

    And my opinion is crap?> My only motive is that I think it is bad’ ¦.yes, outside of this bubble, there will be plenty of people who didn’t like it,

    Well as you yourself are in the AI bubble, who knows how much the rest of them will agree with you. And the people who voted for AI…I mean how many of them really are in the AI bubble? For most people once the show is over, that’s it and most move on. So voting against Adam in the show might or might not be an indication of how much in the buble they are and might or might not indicate how they react to him later. I don’t know how well this song will do in the whole of the music scene. I don’t think it’s going to be Top 40 at all, that part I would agree with. More AC type of an audience, and even there? I have no idea on how it will do. My feeling is that it might do okay, but I for one don’t see huge hit in it’s future. The best I’m hoping for is a moderate success at this point for it. I’m hoping for better for his first actual single, but even there I’m not thinking it’s going to KILL IT commerically or artistically. Again, the AI blandizer will be in full force, I think. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if it doesn’t.

  • lakhesis

    I totally get that people do not like Adam’s singing style. But I think it’s undeniable to say that he has astounding vocals… it’s crazy how much control he has with his tone.

    By brother doesn’t like Adam one bit. Doesn’t like the way Adam can say “yeaah” with 20 different notes (Born to be wild anyone) LMAO. But I think many vocalists would trade in a piece of their soul to sing like so.

    But I loved BTBW… favorite performance of mine actually.

    Here is a link. These people have no love relationship with idol. They are professional music geeks. Who perodically rank the best rock vocalist of all time. Adam is on there list as #1 for best live vocal for Heaven on the Minds. and ranked #2 for technically skilled. A clay fan tried to get Clay on the list and they politely laughed at him. The thread has 37 pages you can go back and forth on it. I respect that you are open to a least see what Professionals think about him and who have no investment in him. Oh and I really don’t think this will make you like him any better. There are a bunch of rock singers on their list that though technically fantastic I don’t care for too much

    http://forums.nutsie.com/viewtopic.php?t=54895&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=525&sid=a6533141b0dc4709c1ef8da9d750aa98

    Thanks… though the fact that professionals recognize him doesn’t sit well with some ;)

  • dyg1
  • alaadam

    Both Ryan and Richard Rushfield, as well as Claude Kelly, Sony music and the usual Idol suspects have tweeted about TFM, Richard quoting Keats no less ‘“ thank you Richard. Not bad for a cheesy song for a disaster movie, ay?

    Sunn, I saw Brian’s but I haven’t seen the others. Do you have them handy?

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    And Brian May weighed in once again from his soapbox

    With further accolades, yes. Thank you Janus.

    Also, Adam’s album is back up to no 5 at Amazon.

    Squee all round really. This is turning out to be a great weekend.

    I wonder what the TFM video will be like?

  • luvadamlambert

    99.999% of the people here say that they hate and abhore!

    i like it…whatever catching up on thread…c u guys 2morrow…:)

  • spring2009

    What did Brian’s tweet say?

    ETA: I hope that on the TFM video we can hear his lovely vocals against the noise of the world blowing up. :)

  • tiger92

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%

    Count me in.

    Me too!

    Ontd_ai had two separate 2500+ comment posts on TFM last night, in which probably 90% of the comments were some variation of smashing and flailing. One of the threads was entitled “Holy Mother of God”. Those over the hill housewives are just too much sometimes.

  • lob

    @spring2009

    Not a tweet but his blog. Basically that he was happy to have helped promote TFM :D

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Sunn, I saw Brian’s but I haven’t seen the others. Do you have them handy?

    I posted them in the headlines thread

  • NewFan

    lakheis

    hough the fact that professionals recognize him doesn’t sit well with some ;)

    Do you mean that the recognition doesn’t impress them or the recognition puts them off?

    It’s still early afternoon where I am and I’m usually foggy in the head all through the daylight hours. Vampire blood somewhere in the family.

  • Susan M.

    I wonder what the TFM video will be like?

    They said it would be ready in a week ‘“  it’s been a week. I’m hoping we’ll see a YouTube popping up any time. Can’t wait!! I wonder how they’re going to work in the dark jacket, 5 o’clock shadow look?

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

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  • yinyang

    Also, Adam’s album is back up to no 5 at Amazon.

    The snippet from TFM must be helping sales!

    > I wonder what the TFM video will be like?

    I’m HOPING that it will feature more of Adam, and less of the movie scenes, but am guessing that it will be more movie stuff. Though since they were filming non-movie scenes for the video, there should be shots of Adam. I doubt that he’ll get to do much in the way of acting, but it would be nice if got a little acting in. Just dreaming, I know. LOL.

    I’m guessing for a 10/16 release for the video. Any other guesses?

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    The Elton John discussion is OFF TOPIC.

  • Cate

    Why yes I can picture Adam bloated and passed out on a bathroom floor in 15 years so maybe you have a point.

    But there will be marble and gold fixtures in the bathroom. And dimmers!

  • Q3

    Sorry MJ –

  • NewFan

    He hasn’t even done anything remotely near what Elvis was able to accomplish and you want to compare the two of them. Elvis is probably turning on his grave right now!

    Hi ilovemj

    No harm. No foul … But I didn’t say that Adam had accomplished any of the things that Elvis had. I just said that he had a great voice and was handsome, could dance … and had devoted fans. I didn’t take the comparison any further than that so, I’m pretty sure that Elvis can rest easy. We all want him to sleep well.

  • Q3

    Here’s Brian May’s blog entry about TfM:

    Sat 10 Oct 09**
    ADAM LAMBERT AND 2012

    Well, I had nothing whatever to do with making this record … but it seems I unwittingly contributed to its promotion. Well, I have no problem with that. In the same studio on the same day, my friend Mr. Meat Loaf did a great promotion job on our AVLF 3-D book!

    Well, take a look at the 2012 promo vid. I can’t wait to see the film … seems like the logical successor to Independence Day. Huge. And … well, the track speaks for itself. Also Huge. Great job.

    Cheers
    Bri

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Sunn, I saw Brian’s but I haven’t seen the others. Do you have them handy?

    Rushfield:

    Yet did I never breathe its pure serene Till I heard @adamlambert speak out loud and bold. The single snippet is here! http://bit.ly/fVsrA

    Ryan

    lotta people been waiting to hear this…clip of @adamlambert’s “time for miracles”…listen http://bit.ly/m6UxP
    about 21 hours ago from UberTwitter

    Claude Kelly

    RT @gknee87 Adam Lambert has CRAZY vocals. Any writer is probably going NUTS to work with him<==YUP, HE'S PRETTY DAMN INCREDIBLE =]

    Aimee Mayo

    #timeformiracles This is as awesome as I hoped it would be. I am so happy Adam Lambert showed up- he is a wild & beautiful spirit.
    about 12 hours ago from web

  • dsp

    my friend Mr. Meat Loaf did a great promotion job on our AVLF 3-D book!

    reminds me of Adam calling smokey MR Smokey Robinson…HAHA

  • Q3

    Amazon US – 2012 Soundtrack is now #131 Music and #3 on Movers & Shakers. It has gone from #907 to #131 since the 20+ sec. of TfM was released.

  • dsp

    Q3 was is Movers and Shakers??

  • Q3

    dsp
    October 10, 2009 at 5:14 pm
    Q3 was is Movers and Shakers??

    Amazon posts a lists of the albums that have moved up the most places on the Amazon music chart in the past 24 hours. Here is a link:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/music/ref=pd_ts_m_mte

  • Sherena

    Next COUPLE of weeks? Argh. They were supposed to have decided a week ago! If they release too late, the single might not have time to build up momentum before the album release… it’s a hit or miss.

  • dyg1

    Amazon US ‘“ 2012 Soundtrack is now #131 Music and #3 on Movers & Shakers. It has gone from #907 to #131 since the 20+ sec. of TfM was released.

    I guess we have to blame those hill obsessed housewives for this ;-)

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Sunn, I saw Brian’s but I haven’t seen the others. Do you have them handy?

    Rushfield:

    Yet did I never breathe its pure serene Till I heard @adamlambert speak out loud and bold. The single snippet is here! http://bit.ly/fVsrA

    Ryan

    lotta people been waiting to hear this…clip of @adamlambert’s “time for miracles”…listen http://bit.ly/m6UxP
    about 21 hours ago from UberTwitter

    Claude Kelly

    RT @gknee87 Adam Lambert has CRAZY vocals. Any writer is probably going NUTS to work with him<==YUP, HE'S PRETTY DAMN INCREDIBLE =]

    Aimee Mayo

    #timeformiracles This is as awesome as I hoped it would be. I am so happy Adam Lambert showed up- he is a wild & beautiful spirit.
    about 12 hours ago from web

  • larc

    Next COUPLE of weeks? Argh. They were supposed to have decided a week ago! If they release too late, the single might not have time to build up momentum before the album release’ ¦ it’s a hit or miss.

    Talk is cheap! They probably knew at least a couple of weeks ago exactly which track will be released as the single, but want to try and keep fans on edge. ;)

  • dhunken

    Talk is cheap! They probably knew at least a couple of weeks ago exactly which track would be released as the single, but want to try and keep fans on edge.

    Well then the strategy is working….Argh!

  • HotHotHot

    Thanks Sunn for all those tweets. I didn’t see them either. Gee, guess it isn’t only the housewives that like him!!! :)

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Let’s leave the other Idols out of the discussion, please? This thread is already unmanagable. All I need now is fanwars about Idols from past seasons.

    The tangent about whether Idols singles represent who they are as artists is really a discussion for another thread.

  • Truthiness

    A cheesy medley

    Was there more than one song in there? Did I miss something?

    You didn’t miss a thing (hee), a medly is typically more than one song, or short pieces of songs, not the same song at different points. The latter being what the song in the clip is, not the former.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

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    People who comment on the thread are automatically being put into moderation.

  • May

    At this point, I think those who dislike Adam and his voice are going to continue to feel that way no matter what kind of song he puts out.

    I don’t think that’s true. I’m not crazy about Adam’s voice, but I feel the same way about a lot of my favorite artists. I’m definitely drawn to the voice of artists like Vedder, Mayer, Cook or Rob Thomas. However, with a lot of other artists, I notice the music and how the voice complements the music (e.g. Coldplay). My best example is Stephen Tyler, who I think has one of the best rock voices. No one can do justice to his songs the way he does (not even Cook, sorry), but I have no interest in hearing him break out the acoustic, because his voice, by itself, does nothing for me. Vocally, Adam is like Stephen Tyler, for me and is probably one of the few people who can effectively pull off most Aerosmith songs. However, the main difference right now, is that Stephen Tyler doesn’t oversing and Sephen Tyler put out great music. Seeing that a lot of different people are writing for Adam, I have absolutely no idea what to expect, so I’m starting off with a blank slate. He gets a pass on the current faux coronation song because I think it was meant to be a cheesefest.

  • adamaloha

    Rushfield:

    Yet did I never breathe its pure serene Till I heard @adamlambert speak out loud and bold. The single snippet is here! http://bit.ly/fVsrA

    This is beautiful. I hope someone tells him how much we appreciate it.

  • zzatrms

    I remember thinking if only I could hear a few notes, I would be happy and able to wait. Well, I heard my notes and all it did was to make me want more NOW.

  • Janus

    You didn’t miss a thing (hee), a medly is typically more than one song, or short pieces of songs, not the same song at different points. The latter being what the song in the clip is, not the former.

    Thanks Truthiness. Yeah, I was just being a little snarky :)

  • aa618892

    Sunn-Thank you so much for those tweets. It is great to see songwriters so excitied about Adam. This is why I am so hopeful for his album. I think Max Martin tweeted something( it was translated from Swedish, I think) about Adam being the talk of the town and all the songwriters wanting to be on his record. To me this means that the people working with Adam brought their A game because they see his potential and really worked hard to get him their best material. If I were a songwriter I would be thrilled to have a singer of this caliber sing my material.

  • wiredforsound

    I tired to find my post to edit out my comment but it seems to have disappeared.

    I think Adam’s new single will be previewed sometime towards the end of next week or early the week after.

    RCA is notorious for releasing first singles very late in the game and Adam generates enough buzz that they don’t need a long build up.

  • Gigi3

    Great to see so many positive tweets, not only about TfM but also about Adam’s vocal talent in general.

    No singer will appeal to everyone. That is a fact. Britney, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Miley Cyrus- all highly successful pop artists, but each of them has attracted lots of scorn as well as lots of devoted fans. You don’t have to be liked by everyone to be successful.

  • Lynne

    I think Max Martin tweeted something( it was translated from Swedish, I think) about Adam being the talk of the town and all the songwriters wanting to be on his record.

    That is really interesting. Do you remember where that came from?

  • dhunken

    I happen to be listening right now to Adam’s acoustic version of Starlight. I would love something like this on his new album. (not this song mind you but an acoustic rock song along these same lines)

  • BootStar

    Tiptoeing in here to say that I’m glad Adam will have a separate single from the over-ripe piece of cheese that is “Time for Miracles.” I know I’m in the minority, but I think the song absolutely blows. And the musical accompaniment–at least what one can hear on that video clip–is horrible. It’s as bad as any “coronation single” that’s been released to date.

    For the record, I’m somebody who initially loved Adam the person and performer more than Adam’s voice; it took me a long time to warm up to the latter because it has a very reedy tone to it that just doesn’t do a whole lot for me. Nonetheless, I think he is an amazing singer and a terrific performer, so whether or not I like subsequent music is going to totally depend on what material he has to work with and what he does with it. I still say in Adam’s case, less is more, but what do I know?

    From what I’ve seen of the trailers, 2012 appears to be complete, OTT, campy ridiculousness, and Adam’s singing “maybe it’s time for miracles” seems so far beyond ironic, it’s hilarious. Frankly, it looks to me like maybe it was “time for miracles” BEFORE the entire earth imploded. Heh. ;-)

  • saga

    I think Max Martin tweeted something( it was translated from Swedish, I think) about Adam being the talk of the town and all the songwriters wanting to be on his record.

    That is really interesting. Do you remember where that came from?

    It was not Max Martin but one of the songwriters (Andreas Carlsson) who are connected to his studio. He posted a comment in swedish about Adam, that he was the talk of the town right now and that all songwriters wanted to be on his record. He has written on song with Desmond Child that I think Adam is considering for his album.

  • Maria22

    pringles
    October 10, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    Oh my, I ran-not-walked to my computer once I got the news that there was a snippet of the biggest debut ever from the biggest, most promising artist out there had leaked and I must say I am disappointed! A cheesy medley, a thin screechy voice? My god, I never expected this from Adam! This is really bad, I am sorry. If this is going to be infesting HAC, and if there is more of this to spread on CHR, it is Time for Me to stop listening to radio for the year. It’s that bad. Luckily, it won’t be long before the buzz dies down and the airwaves will be safe again’ ¦

    Given how incredibly boring the current airwaves are, I certainly don’t look forward to the supposed safety that you are looking forward to.

  • Q3

    #timeformiracles dropped down to #10 and looked it was going to fall off, then headed back up again — now at #6.

  • adamaloha

    mj, I read all your warnings and will heed them.

    And:

    Gigi3
    October 10, 2009 at 5:51 pm
    Great to see so many positive tweets, not only about TfM but also about Adam’s vocal talent in general.

    No singer will appeal to everyone. That is a fact. Britney, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Miley Cyrus- all highly successful pop artists, but each of them has attracted lots of scorn as well as lots of devoted fans. You don’t have to be liked by everyone to be successful.

    This is certainly the truth.. every performer who puts him or herself out there invites it all in– the accolades and the scorn.

    It’s a lot better than toiling in obscurity.

    What they do with their initial break into people’s consciousness is really up to them. I think Adam is on the right path. He’s got buzz everywhere!!!

  • Janus

    I’m somebody who initially loved Adam the person and performer more than Adam’s voice; it took me a long time to warm up to the latter because it has a very reedy tone to it that just doesn’t do a whole lot for me.

    Ok, I’ll admit I’m kinda with you on this. I understand people who don’t like his voice. It’s definitely not for everyone and for me it was somewhat of an acquired taste (first viewing of BTBW and I was like WTH? But now it’s one of my favorites). However, now that I have acquired that taste, I think I’ll be happy enough with whatever he puts out. Regarding this clip of TfM, I was hooked on the first listen. But then again I’ve never had any problem with big bombastic power ballads (and I like the studio recording of NoBo – FWIW). I will say that I like it more when he doesn’t try to hit every note that exists when he wails.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    adamaloha
    October 10, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    Rushfield:

    Yet did I never breathe its pure serene Till I heard @adamlambert speak out loud and bold. The single snippet is here! http://bit.ly/fVsrA

    This is beautiful. I hope someone tells him how much we appreciate it.

    I know. And to quote Keats sonnet “On first looking into Chapman’s Homer”. A sonnet written by Keats to commemorate his 1st reading of the Illiad and Odyssey with his friend, and one that’s considered a highlight of Keats earlier work is just so touching. And extremely fitting.

    I tweeted Rushfield my thanks for the sweet tweet. Rushfield also doesn’t tweet out of obligation to Idol. As far as I know, neither he nor Ryan have tweeted the other freshman singles this season.

    It’s my favourite Adam related tweet so far.

  • dhunken

    BootStar
    October 10, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Tiptoeing in here to say that I’m glad Adam will have a separate single from the over-ripe piece of cheese that is ‘Time for Miracles.’  I know I’m in the minority, but I think the song absolutely blows. And the musical accompaniment’“at least what one can hear on that video clip’“is horrible. It’s as bad as any ‘coronation single’  that’s been released to date.

    For the record, I’m somebody who initially loved Adam the person and performer more than Adam’s voice; it took me a long time to warm up to the latter because it has a very reedy tone to it that just doesn’t do a whole lot for me. Nonetheless, I think he is an amazing singer and a terrific performer, so whether or not I like subsequent music is going to totally depend on what material he has to work with and what he does with it. I still say in Adam’s case, less is more, but what do I know?

    From what I’ve seen of the trailers, 2012 appears to be complete, OTT, campy ridiculousness, and Adam’s singing ‘maybe it’s time for miracles’  seems so far beyond ironic, it’s hilarious. Frankly, it looks to me like maybe it was ‘time for miracles’  BEFORE the entire earth imploded. Heh. ;-)

    Thank you very much for your post. I don’t agree with you but you stated your opinion clearly, well thought out, non hostile, and unapologetic. Bravo (I am being sincere)

    Backtrack: I do agree with one part of your post: “it looks to me like maybe it was ‘time for miracles’  BEFORE the entire earth imploded” very well said.

  • http://twitter.com/terra_zephead terraj

    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWWW

  • adamaloha

    Sunn :I tweeted Rushfield my thanks for the sweet tweet. Rushfield also doesn’t tweet out of obligation to Idol. As far as I know, neither he nor Ryan have tweeted the other freshman singles this season.

    Good. Thanks for doing that.

    Rushfield doesn’t do the fan boi thing– one reason I actually respect his views when he does offer them.

  • Q3

    What they do with their initial break into people’s consciousness is really up to them. I think Adam is on the right path. He’s breakingout all over!!!

    I agree.

    But I happen to love Adam’s voice, love the small part of the song we have been able to hear and I am a huge Roland Emmerich fan. So, I am looking forward to seeing this movie, buying this song, and the bonus for me will be getting to hear this song in a great movie theater in surround sound.

    OK, so I have learned in the past 24-hours that I love cheesey songs, and craptastic movies. Well, I can live with that!

    EAT: #timeformiracles is #5

  • readon

    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWW

    It went up since you posted. It’s now at 354,468. I guess there is a lot of repeat viewing going on.

  • BeckyMD

    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWWW

    wow 2

  • readon

    OK, so I have learned in the past 24-hours that I love cheesey songs, and craptastic movies. Well, I can live with that!

    I have to join you in liking cheesey songs and craptastic movies. For my order, I’ll have the movie crap with a side of cheesey crap.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    terraj
    October 10, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWWW

    Wooooooow!!! Is right, OMG.

  • adamaloha

    Q3 OK, so I have learned in the past 24-hours that I love cheesey songs, and craptastic movies. Well, I can live with that!

    I’m with you there. Life for an adam fan is pretty good right now.

    I confess I even adored that short snippet we first got yesterday. The way his voice slid up into that higher register so beautifully and effortlessly gave me chills.
    It’s amazing how he can change even the timbre of his voice within a song– it really is the perfect instrument. somone described his voice as supple. It is. Gorgeously, gloriously supple, powerful, and evocative.

  • Studio57

    Okay #timeformiracles is trending @#5 right now. How is this even possible? It’s been going for over 24 hours. This can’t be a group effort like ontd_ai because it went all night. This has to be just individual fans, right?

    And how does AOL have that many views and youtube only has a few videos with a few thousand each. Isn’t youtube more popular than AOL?

  • Finn

    Maria22
    October 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    But as a disclaimer, the only song of his that I enjoyed was ‘Mad World’ . I’ve been waiting for him to change my mind, but so far he hasn’t done it.

    Maybe his single off of the CD will impress me more.

    “”I have found that if I don’t like an artist, it’s very seldom that he puts out something that will totally change my mind for me, although I have bought individual songs from artists’ whose albums I wouldn’t buy. I have a feeling that you have given Adam many,many chances and it might be time to throw in the towel and focus on music that works for you. JMHO”"

    I personally would keep trying his music if you’re curious. Recently, after seeing Lady Gaga on Saturday night live, I decided I wanted to give her another listen, because of her performance. Before that I didn’t like her style at all.

    So you never know when you may be pleasantly surprised by something you llike.

  • elw

    I’m sooooo happy Adam Lambert came into my life….:)

  • HotHotHot

    I love great big disaster movies and cheesy rock anthems!!! I guess I’m just a plebian at heart. :)

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Studio57
    October 10, 2009 at 6:27 pm
    Okay #timeformiracles is trending @#5 right now. How is this even possible? It’s been going for over 24 hours.

    #4 it went up a spot.

    It’s absolutely incredible!

    ETA:

    And how does AOL have that many views and youtube only has a few videos with a few thousand each. Isn’t youtube more popular than AOL?

    AOL got tweeted the most. and linked to on other blogs as well as Ryan’s and The Insider.

  • http://www.twitter.com/lambritta Blondie

    terraj
    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWWW

    Bloody hell, that’s insane!! :D

    And #timeformiracles trending at #4 now. Crazy stuff!!!

    Woot!

  • dhunken

    Sunn
    October 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Studio57
    October 10, 2009 at 6:27 pm
    Okay #timeformiracles is trending @#5 right now. How is this even possible? It’s been going for over 24 hours.

    #4 it went up a spot.

    It’s absolutely incredible!

    I was just going to post this info Sunn. It is pretty impressive trending in the top 10 for well over 24 hours. Could my wish of Adam world domination be far behind. ;-)

    Disclaimer. I am being Humorous on the last part (sort of) :mrgreen:

  • Susan M.

    I’m with you there. Life for an adam fan is pretty good right now.

    I confess I even adored that short snippet we first got yesterday. The way his voice slid up into that higher register so beautifully and effortlessly gave me chills.

    It’s amazing how he can change even the timbre of his voice within a song’“ it really is the perfect instrument. somone described his voice as supple. It is. Gorgeously, gloriously supple, powerful, and evocative.

    Beautifully put, aloha! And it’s true. It’s like nothing I’ve ever heard before and jaw-droppingly stunning. I cannot imagine not liking his voice ‘“ wow, what a gift to miss out on.

  • Q3

    Studio57
    October 10, 2009 at 6:27 pm
    Okay #timeformiracles is trending @#5 right now. How is this even possible? It’s been going for over 24 hours. This can’t be a group effort like ontd_ai because it went all night. This has to be just individual fans, right?

    And how does AOL have that many views and youtube only has a few videos with a few thousand each. Isn’t youtube more popular than AOL?

    People are tweeting the AOL link, it’s on some blog sites and it has much better sound. So I think that is pushing the traffic there. But there are literally dozens of YT videos so it is hard to count the views on YT.

    And, no it is not one group doing the trending, it is all kinds of people — that is the only reason way it could last so long. And it seemed to pick up people in Asia and Europe overnight (US) and that kept it going.

    ETA: #3 on Twitter!

  • dhunken

    terraj
    From drcat83 on twitter:

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    WOOOOOWWWWWW

    This is where the marketing people at 2012 failed miserably on Oct 1st. If they played Time for Miracles then during the spam it would have been much more successful. Not because of Adam I really believe that the trailer with the song playing in it brings a lot more emotions to the video and makes it more appealing. (which really is not the hard to do because the Oct 1st showing I though was really not that good)

  • readon

    I was just going to post this info Sunn. It is pretty impressive trending in the top 10 for well over 24 hours. Could my wish of Adam world domination be far behind.

    I have this vision of an invasion from Planet Fierce. It sort of like the V commercials that are now playing with Uprising blasting in the background.

  • lurksalot

    Did it take a genius to come up with this conclusion…if so, here I am.

  • Finn

    What conclusion? :)

  • dhunken

    I have this vision of an invasion from Planet Fierce. It sort of like the V commercials that are now playing with Uprising blasting in the background.

    I like it!!!

  • lurksalot

    Too funny reading about all who don’t like Top 40. I do. Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do. I’ll be happy!

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    It’s amazing how he can change even the timbre of his voice within a song’“ it really is the perfect instrument. somone described his voice as supple. It is. Gorgeously, gloriously supple, powerful, and evocative.

    Beautifully put.

    I admit I’m biased, but then again I have a low tolerance for what I deem as mediocre music usually, even if it is from a fave – I’m a huge Robbie fan and have been for years but refused to buy his last album because frankly it was drek – TFM has been playing on my ITunes, exclusively, since yesterday, and I can’t get tired of it.
    His voice is enchanting, I can’t find any other word for it. The song just keeps running and running and it takes my breath a way every time. It’s not just the song, which is admittedly cheesy, it’s what he does with the song, he makes it mesmerizing.

    I flove this song. and I adore Adam’s vocals in it.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Rushfield doesn’t do the fan boi thing’“ one reason I actually respect his views when he does offer them.

    Aw, now. I have to say, I absolutely LOVE Rushfield. But, if you don’t think he does fan boy things, you must have missed his Odes To Carly last season. All great fun, though. I think he even got a little tongue-in-cheek towards the end.

    As for Adam having Top 40 hits – geez, I hope so. Isn’t the name of the game? What am I missing?

  • Q3

    This is where the marketing people at 2012 failed miserably on Oct 1st. If they played Time for Miracles then during the span it would have been much more successful. Not because of Adam I really believe that the trailer with the song playing in it brings a lot more emotions to the video and makes it more appealing. (which really is not the hard to do because the Oct 1st showing I though was really not that good)

    I disagree. The movie opens on 11/13/09. The roadblock was intended to build initial broad awareness of the film. Then there are a series of tie-ins that are kicking in — like in the movie Zombieland, in the LA Scene, a 2012 poster is seen outside of Grauman’s Chinese Theater. Adam’s song promotion is part of the second phase of promotion. But this needs to be planned as a 6 week campaign to get people into the movie in mid-November. Adam’s song gives them a new piece of news for the next 7 days or so — if they play it right.

  • dhunken

    His voice is enchanting, I can’t find any other word for it. The song just keeps running and running and it takes my breath a way every time. It’s not just the song, which is admittedly cheesy, it’s what he does with the song, he makes it mesmerizing.

    I flove this song. and I adore Adam’s vocals in it.

    Sunn do you have the full song or are you streaming the snippet like myself and letting it play over and over again. If so, I go back to my previous question of can a snippet of a song chart. ;-)

  • dyg1

    PS: I know how to twitter, I mean what do you do to ‘trend’  and do you just keep doing it over and over, or just once, or ‘ ¦..

    Write a tweet and add #timeformiracles

  • dhunken

    I disagree. The movie opens on 11/13/09. The roadblock was intended to build initial broad awareness of the film. Then there are a series of tie-ins that are kicking in ‘” like in the movie Zombieland, in the LA Scene, a 2012 poster is seen outside of Grauman’s Chinese Theater. Adam’s song promotion is part of the second phase of promotion. But this needs to be planned as a 6 week campaign to get people into the movie in mid-November. Adam’s song gives them a new piece of news for the next 7 days or so ‘” if they play it right.

    (kicks foot on ground like a little kid, with head down) I suppose your right. I guess I am still holding a grudge because the song did no play that night. ;-)

  • NewFan

    So, I’ve listened to the TFM song snippet a “few” more times. And well …
    GREAT WORK ADAM!!!

  • Lynne

    It was not Max Martin but one of the songwriters (Andreas Carlsson) who are connected to his studio. He posted a comment in swedish about Adam, that he was the talk of the town right now and that all songwriters wanted to be on his record.

    Thanks! I remember reading this now. I can see why they all would want to work with him.

  • Dallas

    Thank you Q3 and dyg1. I have a twitter account, I just do not use it much and wasn’t sure how to get in on the trending. Now I am going to delete my post.

  • lob

    His voice is enchanting, I can’t find any other word for it. The song just keeps running and running and it takes my breath a way every time. It’s not just the song, which is admittedly cheesy, it’s what he does with the song, he makes it mesmerizing.

    Yep – he is truly amazing and I could listen to him all the time atm. It is a wonderful weekend and a Time for Miracles and I’m super happy tonight :lol: He is a true virtuoso with his voice and I cannot wait to hear the whole song, and the actual album single :D.

  • dyg1

    I have been wondering why a song that talks about hope is considered cheesy. It ´s human to wish for the best. People with terrible diseases hope for a miracle. We have seen miracles, people surviving a plane crash, or a fall from an 8th floor, and in so many other instances.

    I like TFM, and especially Adam ´s voice. I have been listening to it since yesterday.

  • Q3

    Amazon US – 2012 Soundtrack continues to head up the chart — now at #123 holding #3 on Movers & Shakers list — and all for one track.

    I love this song, and I love Adam, but I don’t think I would buy the entire soundtrack just to get that 1 track.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Sunn do you have the full song or are you streaming the snippet like myself and letting it play over and over again. If so, I go back to my previous question of can a snippet of a song chart.

    HA ha. The snippet. And if my ITunes count counts, it’s already charting at no 1. LOL

  • dhunken

    By the way Q3 I think the video and the snippet were released because someone came to this site the night were were talking about using “Is Anybody Listenin” as a mantra and you reworked the lyrics to fit our cries of wanting a snippet of the song. ……That’s my theory and I am sticking to it. ….Hey it could of happened that way…. What’s with the white jacket with staps on the sleeves..

  • 4evrmomof4

    dyg1,
    I believe that people are uncomfortable with intense expressions of emotion, particularly in America where we are more ‘uptight’ & restrained in our public emotional expressions, than elsewhere in the world

  • LoveContinuum

    May I ask for some help (related to TfM)?

    I’m using an iPhone, and have been listening/watching the video (repeatedly) on aol. But it sounds like some of you have downloaded the file to your iPod/iPhone. Is that possible?

    Thanks in advance.

  • BestAI

    Rushfield doesn’t do the fan boi thing’“ one reason I actually respect his views when he does offer them.

    Aw, now. I have to say, I absolutely LOVE Rushfield. But, if you don’t think he does fan boy things, you must have missed his Odes To Carly last season. All great fun, though. I think he even got a little tongue-in-cheek towards the end.

    As for Adam having Top 40 hits ‘“ geez, I hope so. Isn’t the name of the game? What am I missing?

    I think Rushfield is slowly coming around regarding Adam.

  • Maria22

    LoveContinuum
    October 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm
    May I ask for some help (related to TfM)?

    I’m using an iPhone, and have been listening/watching the video (repeatedly) on aol. But it sounds like some of you have downloaded the file to your iPod/iPhone. Is that possible?

    Thanks in advance.

    There are many more technologically astute people here than I am, I tend to do it the long way, download it onto the computer and then from there to my iphone …

  • Studio57

    If anyone is interested this is the tweet stat for the day. Timeformiracles at the very top.

    Adam is still in the all time top 50 for trending for 9 days straight:

    http://tweetstats.com/trends

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    LoveContinuum
    October 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm
    May I ask for some help (related to TfM)?

    I’m using an iPhone, and have been listening/watching the video (repeatedly) on aol. But it sounds like some of you have downloaded the file to your iPod/iPhone. Is that possible?

    Download link to the AOL vid:

    http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?i2o4dnugm5z

  • Truthiness

    I think Rushfield is slowly coming around regarding Adam.

    Considering that Adam was Rushfield’s professed favourite, I don’t see how he needs to come around. Just saying.

    But yes, it’s a lovely Tweet.

  • LoveContinuum

    Thanks Sunn, Maria22 :-)

  • BestAI

    Amazon US ‘“ 2012 Soundtrack continues to head up the chart ‘” now at #123 holding #3 on Movers & Shakers list ‘” and all for one track.

    I love this song, and I love Adam, but I don’t think I would buy the entire soundtrack just to get that 1 track.

    This could very well be for purchasers outside the idol bubble. IMO, most of Adam fans will only buy his single, TfM. Those buying the entire album may have heard Adam’s snippet and are wanting the entire soundtrack with TfM in it. I know there are many people who really do like and purchase soundtracks from movies.

  • dyg1

    4evrmomof4
    October 10, 2009 at 7:06 pm
    dyg1,
    I believe that people are uncomfortable with intense expressions of emotion, particularly in America where we are more ‘uptight’ & restrained in our public emotional expressions, than elsewhere in the world

    Thanks! That ´s what I was thinking, that it was a cultural issue, but I was afraid to say it.

  • adamaloha

    Aw, now. I have to say, I absolutely LOVE Rushfield. But, if you don’t think he does fan boy things, you must have missed his Odes To Carly last season. All great fun, though. I think he even got a little tongue-in-cheek towards the end.

    Zsus, I’m happy to concede this point to you, as I didn’t really start reading Rushfield until Adam piqued my interest.

    I guess my point is I don’t take any writer seriously if he or she is a “fan” of their subject. They can be a fan privately but a professional can keep those feelings in check when on the job.
    I see them as entertainers, and enjoy them for the laughs they give me.

  • Q3

    dhunken: By the way Q3 I think the video and the snippet were release because someone came to this site the night were were talking about using ‘Is Anybody Listenin’  as a mantra and you reworked the lyrics to fit our cries of wanting a snippet of the song. That’s my theory and I am sticking to it. ‘ ¦.Hey it could of happened that way’ ¦. What’s with the white jacket with ties on the sleeves..

    Like a magic chant!

    They say we’ve got no right to ask the why the release date’s a rune
    or hope for anything more than twenty-eight seconds of this tune
    They say we’ve got no right, to hear the entire song
    That fans should be patient but eight days is way too long

    Is anybody listening? Does anybody hear?
    Does anybody else think it seems like it’s been a year
    Is the future written on a sky of cold stone

    RCA, if you’re listening why wait so long
    RCA, if you’re listening just release the song

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Zsus, I’m happy to concede this point to you, as I didn’t really start reading Rushfield until Adam piqued my interest.

    I guess my point is I don’t take any writer seriously if he or she is a ‘fan’  of their subject. They can be a fan privately but a professional can keep those feelings in check when on the job.
    I see them as entertainers, and enjoy them for the laughs they give me.

    YOur point about Rushfield and Adam is valid Adamaloha. For he may have fanboyed Carly last year, but he certainly never fanboyed Adam this year. In fact this tweet is the nicest thing I’ve heard him say about anything Adam related.

  • dhunken

    Well going to do some RL things (but still will be listening to my 1.27 snippet of Time for Miracles over and over again) take care all

    to all the Adam and non Adam fans, My the Fierce be with you!!! :-)

  • Q3

    BestAI: This could very well be for purchasers outside the idol bubble. IMO, most of Adam fans will only buy his single, TfM. Those buying the entire album may have heard Adam’s snippet and are wanting the entire soundtrack with TfM in it. I know there are many people who really do like and purchase soundtracks from movies.

    The comments are all from Adam fans and all about TfM. And it shot up the chart after the TfM release. And the comments about it on the Adam fan sites are about getting TfM on CD.

    No it really appears to be for the song. Some fans want CD’s of all Adam recordings. Other want all things Adam.

  • bridgette12

    All of you do realize that we have completely forgotten about the “american music awards.” Don’t forget about Adam’s upcoming appearance with Miss Paula and Snoop Dog.

  • dhunken

    They say we’ve got no right to ask the why the release date’s a rune
    or hope for anything more than twenty-eight seconds of this tune
    They say we’ve got no right, to hear the entire song
    That fans should be patient but eight days is way too long

    Is anybody listening? Does anybody hear?
    Does anybody else think is seems like it’s been a year
    Is the future written on a sky of cold stone

    RCA, if you’re listening why wait so long
    RCA, if you’re listening just release the song

    BRAVO!

  • aa618892

    http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr
    I can’t believe how many views this AOL clip has garnered in such a short time, especially with all the Youtube vids out there. That bunch of over the hill housewives have been busy repeatedly watching this snippet of song I guess.

  • dhunken

    And third, if we got everything we wanted from RCA and the 2012 folks, we’d still want more.

    I am willing to put your theory to a test if RCA and the 2012 folks are also willing ;-)

  • 4evrmomof4

    I have a question.

    If the Amazon TFM is a downloadable mp3, then why would I buy from them, as they charge 4.49 shipping, for a DOWNLOAD? Why would they do that, if they want to compete at all with iTunes, or is iTunes not going to carry TFM?

    I was considering pre-ordering TFM today on amzon, but I had thought it was a pressed CD,not a downlable mp3

  • dyg1

    Adam Lambert Nominated For Fox Reality Channel’s “Really Awards”

    http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1074-adam-lambert-nominated-for-fox-reality-channels-qreally-awardsq

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Second, I have changed my mind about artists. Infrequently, but it is possible. However, Adam does seem to alienate some people in a very strong, even organic way. I don’t know why that’s the case, but it may prevent an adam ‘hater’  from hearing what those of us who love Adam hear. I’m not pointing fingers, here. Just an observation

    It’s usually the mark of a great artist. I can’t name a single artist, to whom I would attribute greatness in any way, that was not polarizing in his/her day – And I emphasize “in his/her day” because all too often what was once derided by many, is later acknowledged by all – not one solitary mark making artist who was not as much hated as he/she was loved in their day.

  • dsp

    Oh no I have a conflict on twitter….both LSU and #timeformiracles are trending…WHAT IS A GIRL (UH OVER THE HILL WOMAN) TO DO???

  • sidewalkstory

    I’m not on the Rushfield love boat. He was pretty meh about Adam all season long and I believe gave some flat reviews while still at the LA Times. Yes, he came around, but I question his motives. I remember that when he began to like Adam, he acted as if he did all along and was called out on it. And he sort of lost his temper.

  • http://www.twitter.com/lambritta Blondie

    dyg1
    Adam Lambert Nominated For Fox Reality Channel’s ‘Really Awards’ 

    http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1074-adam-lambert-nominated-for-fox-reality-channels-qreally-awardsq

    wow, looks like they haven’t got over S8. Lame. *sigh*

    dsp
    October 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm
    Oh no I have a conflict on twitter’ ¦.both LSU and #timeformiracles are trending’ ¦WHAT IS A GIRL (UH OVER THE HILL WOMAN) TO DO???

    I’m sure you’ll come to the right conclusion ;)

  • dhunken

    It’s usually the mark of a great artist. I can’t name a single artist, to whom I would attribute greatness in any way, that was not polarizing in his/her day ‘“ And I emphasize ‘in his/her day’  because all too often what was once derided by many, is later acknowledged by all ‘“ not one solitary mark making artist who was not as much hated as he/she was loved in their day.

    Thank you, very well said! I have been trying to think of a way to post something like this but got too wordy. You get me!!!

  • NewFan

    Adam Lambert Nominated For Fox Reality Channel’s ‘Really Awards’ 

    Well. That’s just stupid!

  • dsp

    Adam’s TFM video on aol has 352043 views (way more than the TFM trailer on aol): http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    Wow…now up to 367000 views

  • 4evrmomof4

    Polarizing, usually means ‘different’ or ‘groundbreaking’, ‘evoking extreme emotion’

    As far as artists are concerned- I have sold fine art for year(in the past) & unless the art evokes strong emotion-either good or bad, then it will never be noticed. People will not be moved.

    In order for an artist to ingrain themselves into the cultural landscape, they have to evoke extreme emotion, which may include discomfort,joy,pain in order to make a difference or be noticed.
    That is why their are many moderately successful artists of all kinds, but only few ‘superstars’ or any genre.

    Because as an artist, you can not be afraid to make people uncomfortable in the development of your art-it will both alienate & ingratiate people to your cause.

    Superstars are not afraid to be be adored or hated at the same time, as they means they are making a difference & permeating the public consciousness.

    Michael Jackson sometimes made you wince, but you noticed & paid attention.

    Madonna has shocked, still shocks to this day & still invades our public consciousness.(and she is making a crapload of $)

    Elvis made us squirm in our day, the Beatles made parents uncomfortable & women squeal, as did Prince in his heyday(must less now)

    This is true in all artistic endeavors, you have to not be afraid to either intensely move people emotionally either towards or against you.

    Lukewarm does not make you a ‘superstar’. You have to be ‘white hot’, a bit uncomfortable, being certainly noticeable

    Notice no one ever ‘lukewarm’ about Adam. You either love or hate. Think is voice is spectacular or awful, appreciate his personality or think he is arrogant. He evokes extreme emotions, which mean intense fans & intense haters alike. It also means EVERYBODY is noticing him & talking about him and photographing him!!

  • adamaloha

    And I emphasize ‘in his/her day’  because all too often what was once derided by many, is later acknowledged by all ‘“ not one solitary mark making artist who was not as much hated as he/she was loved in their day.

    It is interesting how the passage of time manages to be the most accurate indicator of greatness. Adam may or may not eventually be perceived as great (I think he will), but if he is, we will have watched it unfold. What fun!

  • dhunken

    4evrmomof4-not going to copy your entire post, but WOW excellent!

  • girlygirl

    Why is Fox Reality Channel encouraging more nastiness and butthurt by having a category for these “awards” be “really robbed”. That’s just stupid…they could easily have come up with a better category name than this, something that would actually be POSTIVE and honor the nominees while also not insulting the winners of those various shows.

  • adamaloha

    Adam Lambert Nominated For Fox Reality Channel’s ‘Really Awards’ 

    This is REALLY stupid.

    ETA: But a surefire way to get hits/viewers. So maybe not stupid at all.

  • hwc

    Wow’ ¦now up to 367000 views

    That means there are probably a thousand of us watching it! Yippeee!

  • adamaloha

    hwc
    October 10, 2009 at 8:13 pm
    Wow’ ¦now up to 367000 views

    That means there are probably a thousand of us watching it! Yippeee!

    *giggle*

  • hwc

    That’s just stupid’ ¦

    Why is it stupid? For most reality shows, that sort of thing is a popular topic. It’s only in the world of Idol that it unmentionable. This could be the only thing Lambert ever wins. Let him have his day in the sun.

  • Studio57

    I’m sure my post would be deleted if I mentioned the award he’s up for on that show, but he’s a sure bet to win.

    LMAO!No contest as far as I am concerned.

  • dsp

    HWC…I’m sure I contributed to 10,000

  • girlygirl

    Today has been dead in terms of actual Idol-related news.

  • mrskiddens

    Thank God for this headline.

  • dsp

    Maybe someone like Kanye would step up and say someone deserved it more than Adam

  • dhunken

    Why is it stupid? For most reality shows, that sort of thing is a popular topic. It’s only in the world of Idol that it unmentionable. This could be the only thing Lambert ever wins. Let him have his day in the sun.

    Well beside the Teen Choice Award for Choice Reality Star and the Young Hollywood Award for Artist of the Year. (hey I take what I can get)

  • dhunken

    girlygirl
    October 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Today has been dead in terms of actual Idol-related news.

    What you mean…Timeformiracles has been trending for almost 24 hours, Adam album is moving up on Amazon best sellers, 2012 soundtrack is moving up just because of the Snippet for Time for Miracle, The AOL video has been see by over 376000 views, more then the actual 2012 trailer. Pretty news worthy day I’d say. (oh and there is another thread about David Archuleta Christmas Album, and Another thread on Allison)

  • Squirrely

    I feel like Luvie – someone summarize the thread for me …j/k – I’m going back to read it.

  • weareallinnocent

    Aww, thanks Adamaloha, you’re very kind!

    I’m starting to fear that my repeated listening of spliced snippets of TfM is going to mess up my initial listening pleasure from the real thing. At the very least, I won’t be able to sing along like I know the song. Come to think of it, maybe that’s a good thing… (certainly for peeps near me!)

    hwc, as always, you make me :-) But even if (when) he wins, no way he’ll publicly acknowledge the Really, right?! I mean, really, right?!

  • dsp

    But even if (when) he wins, no way he’ll publicly acknowledge the Really, right?! I mean, really, right?!

    Yeah i Really think u r Really right about that

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    hwc
    October 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm
    That’s just stupid’ ¦

    Why is it stupid? For most reality shows, that sort of thing is a popular topic. It’s only in the world of Idol that it unmentionable. This could be the only thing Lambert ever wins. Let him have his day in the sun.

    LOL hwc. I knew this award would tickle your fancy.

  • dhunken

    On that Really award!! I think it would be hysterical if Adam did win and when they went to give it to him Kris would run on stage and snag it and then Adam would say something like I guess the one who was suppose win did. Then say “It ain’t that deep” It would make the whole thing fun and Lite and show that Kris and Adam can Laugh at all the stupidity over the who won/who didn’t.

  • Squirrely

    Sassycatz
    October 10, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    You all want this to be his first single? I haven’t been following Adam except by accident on this site, but I know he’s said that his vibe is electronic pop and this is not that. Now, Idol winners ‘” except Kris ‘” were ‘saddled’  with a song that many times did not represent them at all, but they had to suck it up and take it. So why would someone off of Idol, who didn’t have to, intentionally look to put out a single that was not what they have long wanted to do? Adam appears to be very lucky. He apparently is going to get to release a first CD that is truly what he wants while even Idol winners have had to make compromises. He’s getting a winner’s treatement without any of the demands or compromises they’ve had. So, why look a gift horse in the mouth?

    I think you are confused, no one thought this was Adam’s first single. Slezak only confirmed what was already known.

  • hwc

    But even if (when) he wins, no way he’ll publicly acknowledge the Really, right?! I mean, really, right?!

    That’s really a good point. This Really Award really would present a challenge on the acceptance speech front, wouldn’t it? I’m guessing we’ll get that lame ass ol’ “we are really both winners” BS spiel.

    If there’s a god in heaven, the kid who won will get asked about Adam’s award at every press opportunity for a month.

  • NewFan

    Yeah i Really think u r Really right about that

    I really hope that you are really right too.

    On that Really award!! I think it would be hysterical if Adam did win and when they went to give it to him Kris would run on stage and snag it. It would make the whole thing fun and Lite and show that Kris and Adam can Laugh at all the stupidity over the who won/who didn’t.

    This idea has merit. Me thinks, if you can’t get rid of things that are stupid, you should laugh at them instead.

    hwc :lol:

  • dsp

    Twitter watch…LSU #2 and #timeformiracles #5 despite me turning my back to my #1 team for #1 superstar

  • Mtlfan

    this Really award… the stupidest thing … so thrilling to see who will win the biggest victim award of the year .. lol

  • CindyM

    I’m with you there. Life for an adam fan is pretty good right now.

    I confess I even adored that short snippet we first got yesterday. The way his voice slid up into that higher register so beautifully and effortlessly gave me chills.

    It’s amazing how he can change even the timbre of his voice within a song’“ it really is the perfect instrument. somone described his voice as supple. It is. Gorgeously, gloriously supple, powerful, and evocative

    Life as an Adam fan has been wonderful since we were first exposed to him with Bohemian Rhapsody. I think his voice is magnificent and I’m thrilled that he is getting to make a record with so many high-powered, successful and highly sought-after industry newbies and veterans. To have a producer like Redone contact 19E to request to work with Adam before American Idol was even finished is amazing.

    It’s perfectly understandeable that some people may not like what they hear with Adam, I have the same feelings about many who come from American Idol. I choose not to buy or listen to them or even pay attention to them. I don’t think they really mind that much, they’ve got plenty of fans to show them love. To each his/her own, the differences is what makes the world go round.

  • Squirrely

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%’ ¦Never felt so alone’ ¦.Oh wait I’ll have Adam and his music’ ¦Whew!!! better already’ ¦ :-)

    You are so not alone – I’m right there with you. When I got back home today the first thing I did was play the video again. I love it!

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    If there’s a god in heaven, the kid who won will get asked about Adam’s award at every press opportunity for a month.

    LMAO! NO that would be too cruel.

  • Cate

    this Really award’ ¦ the stupidest thing ‘ ¦ so thrilling to see who will win the biggest victim award of the year .. lol

    Are either Jon or Kate in the running?

  • dhunken

    Squirrely
    October 10, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%’ ¦Never felt so alone’ ¦.Oh wait I’ll have Adam and his music’ ¦Whew!!! better already’ ¦ :-)

    You are so not alone ‘“ I’m right there with you. When I got back home today the first thing I did was play the video again. I love it!

    Yeah Squirrely here…Help yourself to some punch and have a seat…I love the video of TFM too. (keeping OT)

  • Squirrely

    Nice tweet

    RT @gknee87 Adam Lambert has CRAZY vocals. Any writer is probably going NUTS to work with him<==YUP, HE'S PRETTY DAMN INCREDIBLE =]

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    What are Really awards?

    Taking a break from football and thought I’d comment on Time for Miracles.

    Eh, from the clip it sounds like an Aerosmith power ballad with Queen vocals. Vocals are nice. Song is generic. I bet it does well. Not something I would listen to, really, unless it came on the radio. I know it’s not Adam’s real single, so I still maintain some hope. I like both Kris and Allison’s songs better (Adam’s vocals not withstanding). That could change after hearing the full song, but I think I have a good idea what it’s all about.

    Go Bama! Yay! I hope LSU wins, too. We’ll see. I can see why they are trending. This game is huge!

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Why yes I can picture Adam bloated and passed out on a bathroom floor in 15 years so maybe you have a point.

    LOL. Funny, the only thing I see for Adam in 15, or 20, or 30 years is him resplendent in happiness and secure in the knowledge that the world appreciates what a gift he truly is to music.

    But that’s just me, I’m all Zen and hopeful about people, especially those who have done nothing but entertain me.

  • larc

    Awww. That would be awesome! Because you know Adam really doesn’t want this award.

    I somehow suspect that Adam may be “otherwise engaged” and unable to attend the award ceremony. ;)

  • clearone

    Oh Jeez I must be in the 0.001%’ ¦Never felt so alone’ ¦.Oh wait I’ll have Adam and his music’ ¦Whew!!! better already’ ¦

    You are so not alone ‘“ I’m right there with you. When I got back home today the first thing I did was play the video again. I love it!

    I love it too! I would be very happy if this was Adam’s first single since I think it has the chance to be an international monster hit. I think this kind of song has more of a chance of catching on than a techno dance number. I’d release this first, then release one from the CD. I don’t like that it’s taking them so long to decide on a single from the CD. It tells me there isn’t one that stands out to them.

  • dsp

    Hwc maybe you could step in and accept the award in his honor but I would expect a long acceptance speech

  • dsp

    I don’t like that it’s taking them so long to decide on a single from the CD. It tells me there isn’t one that stands out to them.

    I bet they have chosen Adam’s single…just keeping us in suspense

  • Sherena

    I don’t like that it’s taking them so long to decide on a single from the CD. It tells me there isn’t one that stands out to them.

    Which could mean several hit single worthy songs. You know, if you wanna stay positive. ^.^

  • Calliope

    I think this kind of song has more of a chance of catching on than a techno dance number. I’d release this first, then release one from the CD. I don’t like that it’s taking them so long to decide on a single from the CD. It tells me there isn’t one that stands out to them.

    Electropop is different from techno dance. Sorry, I’m being pedantic, but as a fan of electronic music, they differ as one is rather mainstream while the other is more limited to clubs and hipster types (except for a few random tracks). I do think if Adam goes the electronic route, it would be more like Black Eyed Peas, that Ke$ha song or Lady GaGa–all which are selling well on iTunes–than Justice.

    I think Adam has a better chance at permeating pop culture with an electropop song than a power ballad (this is kind of a different situation though as Adam’s song is meant to push 2012, not Adam–however, Adam does reap the promo benefits, so it works out well for him), as that is what does well on the singles charts and Top 40. Just look at what is selling on iTunes and Billboard Charts.

    However, this song does highlight Adam’s vocals quite well and is a great way of getting his name out there.

    Which could mean several hit single worthy songs. You know, if you wanna stay positive. ^.^

    With that many hitmakers working on it, I could buy that.

  • hwc

    In an ideal situation, the hope would be to release as many as four singles from Lambert’s album over the next 18 months, so there will be some thought (and perhaps focus group testing) on what order to go with. They may also be waiting to see if Time for Miracles blows up. That obviously could impact a single selection as you would have two songs pushed at the same time.

  • NewFan

    I do believe that you are correct Sherena. More than one …

    But I have a question about the video. We’ve just seen a snippet from a “making of” video. Right? Which means we can look forward to the rest of that and the rest of the song and a music video. Right? And there’s a new trailer out there that includes TFM? Yes? Something that people were hoping to see in theaters this weekend? Maybe? Have we seen that on the internet yet? Or is the snippet actually the new trailer with some “making of” footage cut into it?

    I think I may have blinked and missed something. And I think that this series of questions is circular and confusing … but maybe somebody can decipher it and answer? Have we actually seen the new trailer yet?

  • dhunken

    I think Adam has a better chance at permeating pop culture with an electropop song than a power ballad, as that is what does well on the singles charts and Top 40. Just look at what is selling on iTunes and Billboard Charts.

    I agree with you as far as US charts go…But I think Clearone is correct that TFM will do better worldwide. I think (notice the word think I did not say I know, opinion here) TFM will have better then average success in the US but will be a MEGA hit Worldwide Especially in the Asian and European market. Maybe even in South American. (Hispanic Journal Loves him)

  • iluvai

    LOL. Funny, the only thing I see for Adam in 15, or 12, or 30 years is him resplendent in happiness and secure in the knowledge that the world appreciates what a gift he truly is to music.

    But that’s just me, I’m all Zen and hopeful about people, especially those who have done nothing but entertain me.

    That’s me too. And I’ve loved many of the insights from the other people out there tonight. I’ve been having too much fun reading to comment until now.

  • adamaloha

    Sunn
    October 10, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    Why yes I can picture Adam bloated and passed out on a bathroom floor in 15 years so maybe you have a point.

    LOL. Funny, the only thing I see for Adam in 15, or 12, or 30 years is him resplendent in happiness and secure in the knowledge that the world appreciates what a gift he truly is to music.

    But that’s just me, I’m all Zen and hopeful about people, especially those who have done nothing but entertain me

    That’s what Adam is all about, right? Hope and Zen and Entertaining us!

    Adam said, “Love overcomes hate.”

    So yes, Sunn, he’ll be happy and rich and fulfilled. I’m sure of it.

  • Natasha

    Adam must have done some serious harm to some people to be wishing such ill thoughts on him.

    Lulz. I hope they aren’t sticking pins into glittery voo-doo dolls.

    Slezak only confirmed what was already known.

    The timetable for the release of the single was new to me. I thought it might come out next week but it’s going to be much later than I thought.

  • Cate

    That’s what Adam is all about, right? Hope and Zen and Entertaining us!

    Adam said, ‘Love overcomes hate.’ 

    So yes, Sunn, he’ll be happy and rich and fulfilled. I’m sure of it.

    adamaloha and sunn,
    you left nothing for me to say. <3

  • hwc

    But I have a question about the video. We’ve just seen a snippet from a ‘making of’  video. Right? Which means we can look forward to the rest of that and the rest of the song and a music video. Right?

    Correct. Here are the music video and makding of music video video that were released for last Novembers’ Sony Pictures blockbuster, the Bond film:

    Music Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM5UJvnbbuY

    Making of Music Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXpbRndwlLM

    We can assume both of these are coming for Adam’s A Time for Miracles, although it is possible that the trailer we see now talks the place of the “making of” video.

    They are about two weeks behnd last year’s schedule. Last year, the video and iTunes song were released Oct 1 for the same movie premier date. The Idol tour probably made hitting those dates unrealistic.

  • Q3

    girlygirl: Why is Fox Reality Channel encouraging more nastiness and butthurt by having a category for these ‘awards’  be ‘really robbed’ . That’s just stupid’ ¦they could easily have come up with a better category name than this, something that would actually be POSTIVE and honor the nominees while also not insulting the winners of those various shows.

    Could it be “Ratings” — and of course, the award just happens to be in the middle of the Adam PR campaign.

  • HotHotHot

    I believe that this song will go viral and all will be well.

  • Cate

    Q3, it’s FOX!!!!

  • PattyH

    On that Really award!! I think it would be hysterical if Adam did win and when they went to give it to him Kris would run on stage and snag it. It would make the whole thing fun and Lite and show that Kris and Adam can Laugh at all the stupidity over the who won/who didn’t.

    Oh yes, to this! It would be hysterical and at the same time point out how ridicuous this award show is!

  • Calliope

    I agree with you as far as US charts go’ ¦But I think Clearone is correct that TFM will do better worldwide. I think (notice the world think I did not say I know, opinion here) TFM will have better then average success in the US but will be a MEGA hit Worldwide Especially in the Asian and European market. Maybe even in South American. (Hispanic Journal Love him)

    From my experience (which is limited to the UK and other parts of Europe), they are more open to electronic music overall than America, so I don’t know.

    I do think TfM will be a great way of introducing Adam as a name and his vocals to the international audience, so I think it works out quite well for him to have this out there with 2012, not denying that at all.

  • 4evrmomof4
  • Janus

    Does anyone know in what format the music video and “making of” video will be released? I’m sure the music video will be included on the 2012 DVD, but what about the “making of” video? And can we expect both of these to be release on iTunes?

  • 4evrmomof4
  • SparklesATL

    I think it would be hysterical if Adam did win and when they went to give it to him Kris would run on stage and snag it.

    Or strum his guitar singing “It’s too late to apologize, it’s too late”
    over and over again.

  • alaadam

    A Really Award, Really? I luv Adam sooooooo much but REALLY? I have my opinion about the whole “being robbed” thing myself but surely Fox is not going to actually give him an award so that the rest of the world hears about it too-are they??? Maybe he won’t win. What would his acceptance speech be?? “Um Yeah! I was robbed by All American-guy next door “the guy who won” because of (you can fill in the numerous reasons)-but hey, look at my Amazon chart, my movie track, my magazine covers, etc, etc. so all is good with me” Just dont’ see it happening. Besides, this would really make me feel bad for Kris. I’m already feeling pretty sorry for the guy that won. Let’s not make it worse.

  • JOJOSIE

    My first thoughts when hearing TFM was having it blasting in my car cd player trying to singing along. As Sharver would say “good times”. I don’t like Adam compared to any iconic singers as I just want Adam to be Adam. He to me is unlike any singer I can remember, and I should have a good memory as I’m probably the oldest poster here. His remarkable vocal talent, his gorgeous looks, his very positive and quirky personality and I better not forget the guy can move. I hope I like his single, but I can’t imagine I won’t as he hasn’t disappointed me yet.

  • HotHotHot

    HotHotHot, did you edit/delete your post before mine got up?!

    I agreed with you and changed it.

  • Janus

    I do think TfM will be a great way of introducing Adam as a name and his vocals to the international audience

    I spent time in Eastern Europe not long after Titanic was released and Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On was played everywhere I went. Granted that was a decade or so ago so I don’t really know how the culture may have changed, but I have a feeling they’ll love TfM in that part of the world.

  • HotHotHot

    4evrmomof4
    October 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm
    yet another one:

    http://multiplythemeslayouts.com/movie/watch-2012-online-stream-2012-soundtrack-adam-lambert-time-for-miracles/

    WoW! You’re hot tonight, dawg!

  • jpfan

    The director’s last movie 10,000 BC bombed in the US but did very well internationally. So 2012 may do the same. And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

  • alaadam

    4evrmomof4 Thanks for the links. Wow! Adam is getting TONS, just TONS of free PR over this movie track. Yippee Yeehaw! And it is going to a totally different market of movie goers-different that AI watchers – i mean.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I mentioned the Really awards and didn’t get modded. Just saying…

    I also had the impression that electronic music did much better worldwide than in the US.

  • soverymel

    I know crap all about music other than what I like, and I’ve never really cared enough to examine what goes into making a song I like, especially the instruments. Until now, apparently.

    In the video clip, are those first distinctive notes that start when the Columbia logo thing is shown and then continue while the movie newscaster talks about the Mayan calendar made by an electric guitar? Some other instrument?

    And in the middle instrumental section that starts when the freeway overpass is shown splitting apart, what the heck is it that makes that dramatic sliding from low to high and back sound?

    ETA: I’m just so curious, which is weird for me. If anyone has some musical knowledge they can share, I’d really appreciate it.

  • hwc

    I spent time in Eastern Europe not long after Titanic was released and Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On was played everywhere I went. Granted that was a decade or so ago so I don’t really know how the culture may have changed, but I have a feeling they’ll love TfM in that part of the world.

    For starters, Adam Lambert’s A Time for Miracles was written by two Russian rock stars, a fact that will probably not be missed in Europe and, of course, Russia and the Eastern bloc.

  • Adamkrisallison

    dhunken
    October 10, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    On that Really award!! I think it would be hysterical if Adam did win and when they went to give it to him Kris would run on stage and snag it and then Adam would say something like I guess the one who was suppose win did. Then say ‘It ain’t that deep’  It would make the whole thing fun and Lite and show that Kris and Adam can Laugh at all the stupidity over the who won/who didn’t.

    This would be the smartest most creative way to squash the additional controversy that this stupid award would incite.

  • alaadam

    I mentioned the Really awards and didn’t get modded. Just saying’ ¦

    ok

  • Q3

    JOJOSIE: I don’t like Adam compared to any iconic singers as I just want Adam to be Adam. He to me is unlike any singer I can remember, and I should have a good memory as I’m probably the oldest poster here. His remarkable vocal talent, his gorgeous looks, his very positive and quirky personality and I better not forget the guy can move. I hope I like his single, but I can’t imagine I won’t as he hasn’t disappointed me yet.

    When people compare Adam to iconic singers, I take it as high praise. And if he is become an icon, then it means that is is indeed incomparable. Here the definition of “cultural icon” from wiki:

    A cultural icon: An image, a symbol, a logo, picture, name, face, person, or building or other image that is readily recognized, and generally represents an object or concept with great cultural significance to a wide cultural group. A representation of an object or person, or that object or person may come to be regarded as having a special status as particularly representative of, or important to, or loved by, a particular group of people, a place, or a period in history.

    And IMO Adam is on his way to becoming a cultural icon.

  • iluvai

    And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    Maybe. But plenty of US folks liked David C.’s coronation song and that was cheesy. Well cheesier. lol.

  • Adamkrisallison

    Is MJ at the David Cook Concert tonight? I think I remember reading something along those lines yesterday.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    alaadam
    October 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm
    4evrmomof4 Thanks for the links. Wow! Adam is getting TONS, just TONS of free PR over this movie track. Yippee Yeehaw! And it is going to a totally different market of movie goers-different that AI watchers ‘“ i mean.

    HE’s still trending on twitter at number 6, which frankly at this point I find inexplicable. None of the adam fans I follow are helping to trend.
    It’s amazing.

  • Gigi3

    And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    LOL Are your psychic powers telling you that it won’t do well in the U.S.? Or is it your magic 8 ball??

  • Janus

    For starters, Adam Lambert’s A Time for Miracles was written by two Russian rock stars, a fact that will probably not be missed in Europe and, of course, Russia and the Eastern bloc.

    Good point. Yeah, I’m sure it will be a hit over there.

  • Q3

    And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    Well as #TfM enters the 31st hour as a Twitter trend, I think that it may do fine everywhere. But clearly something unussual is going on.

  • adamaloha

    And– the REALLY award may be tasteless, but it gets people talking about it and that’s exactly what they want.

    I had never heard of it before, frankly. But I’m learning a lot, lately.

  • hwc

    In the video clip, are those first distinctive notes that start when the Columbia logo thing is shown and then continue while the movie newscaster talks about the Mayan calendar made by an electric guitar? Some other instrument?

    It’s really hard to tell for sure with the highly compressed low-rez audio on the video clip. There’s a full string section in the background, but I assume you are talking about the thing that almost sounds like chimes? That is probably electric guitar, but could also be done on a keyboard synthesizer.

    And in the middle instrumental section that starts when the freeway overpass is shown splitting apart, what the heck is it that makes that dramatic sliding from low to high and back sound?

    I believe those are massed violins. Again, these early snippets are really rotten quality with a lot of compresson artifacts. The actual tracks won’t sound anything like this. It will be much easier to hear what is what in the mix.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    For starters, Adam Lambert’s A Time for Miracles was written by two Russian rock stars, a fact that will probably not be missed in Europe and, of course, Russia and the Eastern bloc.

    I have an album from when I visited Russia when I was 20 from a band called “Black Coffee.” It’s heavey metal, Russian style. And it sucks. So yeah, I guess that’s a possibility. I don’t know that extends to all of Eastern Europe, though. The Polish clubs in Chicago love them some electronica. In fact, Chicago is the 2nd largest Polish speaking city in the world, only behind Warsaw.

  • dhunken

    jpfan
    October 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    The director’s last movie 10,000 BC bombed in the US but did very well internationally. So 2012 may do the same. And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    Well it didn’t actually bomb. (Terrible movie I agree) It cost 105 million to make and made 95 million in the US. 175 million in foreign market. So while it wasn’t a huge success here I would not say it bombed.

  • abbysee

    His remarkable vocal talent, his gorgeous looks, his very positive and quirky personality and I better not forget the guy can move.

    <3

  • alaadam

    Well as #TfM enters the 31st hour as a Twitter trend, I think that it may do fine everywhere. But clearly something unussual is going on.

    It’s funny that the trend was used for some of the college football games today from fans like this one:

    Ok hokies, its #timeformiracles. I needed one for Auburn today badly.

  • wordnerdarchie

    dsp
    October 10, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Is MJ at david’s concert??

    Yes, she is. MJ tweeted during the opening act (Ryan Star) at the David Cook concert tonight. However, she hasn’t tweeted anything since David Cook the stage. MJ, why so silent?

  • dhunken

    pj
    October 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    For starters, Adam Lambert’s A Time for Miracles was written by two Russian rock stars, a fact that will probably not be missed in Europe and, of course, Russia and the Eastern bloc.

    I have an album from when I visited the USSR from a band called ‘Black Coffee.’  It’s heavey metal, Russian style. And it sucks. So yeah, I guess that’s a possibility. I don’t know that extends to all of Eastern Europe, though. The Polish clubs in Chicago love them some electronica. In fact, Chicago is the 2nd largest Polish speaking city in the world, only behind Warsaw.

    I know that some people feel that Heavy Metal=Rock Star but I am sure that Rock Star does not= Heavy Metal so I don’t get the analogy?

  • LaurelG

    I mentioned the Really awards and didn’t get modded. Just saying’ ¦

    I deleted my post, not because I thought it was a verboten topic, but because I realized it belonged in the Headlines thread. In fact, I should have just moved it but … too late now.

    Speaking of the timing between the release of a single and the release of the album, I read that Michael Jackson’s new single will be available on his website at midnight tomorrow. His album drops on October 27th, so that’s a span of 15 days.

  • soverymel

    hwc
    There’s a full string section in the background, but I assume you are talking about the thing that almost sounds like chimes? That is probably electric guitar, but could also be done on a keyboard synthesizer.

    Exactly, yeah, that part that sounds like chimes! The part that goes do-do-do-do, do-do-do, then repeats. And I didn’t even think of a synthesizer, if it’s not an electric guitar, thank you.

    And I feel like smacking myself in the forehead on those dramatic low to high to low sounds in the instrumental section, VIOLINS! Ah, now that I listen back that makes total sense.

    I can’t wait till we get a REAL recording and not this low resolution internet quality version, not because I can actually tell the difference, but so that I can watch while music aficionados talk about it intelligently. Fascinating. Thank you!

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I know that some people feel that Heavy Metal=Rock Star but I am sure that Rock Star does not= Heavy Metal so I don’t get the analogy?

    Well, Time for Miracles sounds like a hard rock power ballad to me. I actually like the vocals. Just not the song, as far as I can tell. That doesn’t mean it won’t do well. My main point was that I think electro music is more popular in Europe than rock.

    ETA: I heart Adam. Just not my favorite type of song. It’s just a personal preference. No biggie. I’m looking forward to his album more.

  • Mary102

    HE’s still trending on twitter at number 6, which frankly at this point I find inexplicable. None of the adam fans I follow are helping to trend.
    It’s amazing.

    LOL! Well, my block of AI/Adam fans has helped that trend off and on the last 24 hours! Though I think between us we’ve only tweeted it a dozen times or so. Hardly crazy. But it’s awesome to keep seeing it trending!

  • aa618892

    Well as #TfM enters the 31st hour as a Twitter trend, I think that it may do fine everywhere. But clearly something unussual is going on.

    Q3- I agree, this is just a snippet for goodness sake! What is going to happen when the whole song is available?
    And still don’t get the “cheesetastic” comments. It just sounds like a great power ballad to me. Does a hopeful message automatically mean cheesy? Is Lennon’s “Imagine” cheesy? JMO

  • Calliope

    I have an album from when I visited Russia when I was 20 from a band called ‘Black Coffee.’  It’s heavey metal, Russian style. And it sucks. So yeah, I guess that’s a possibility. I don’t know that extends to all of Eastern Europe, though. The Polish clubs in Chicago love them some electronica. In fact, Chicago is the 2nd largest Polish speaking city in the world, only behind Warsaw.

    From my limited experience with Russian and Eastern European music scenes, they tend to like both: rock ballads and electronic music. Both tend to do quite well. Maybe Adam can have two songs there as well. ;)

    An example of how their pop music leans more electronic is comparing tatu’s songs that were done in Russian first vs. their English language music that seemed to be aimed at the American audience: it’s full on Europop vs. American pop-rock with a lot less electronic sounds. Just compare “All the Things She Said” with its original Russian version. American pop music is way more electronic now than then though, so I there has been a shift since tatu which was soooo six years ago.

  • hwc

    My bad:

    Natasha Shneider was Russian.

    Her partner, guitarist, Alain Johannes is Chilean.

    Sorry. Both have some following for their work with rock bands like the Eleven, Queens of the Stone Age, and Chris Cornell of Soundgarden.

    Natashia Schneider, Who’s In Control, from the Catwoman movie soundtrack
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2l9pcd4KFE

    Natashia Schneider and Alain Johnnes Live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1r6cyho4M

    And their first music video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Hvqj9mWds

    BTW, A Time for Miracles was almost certainly written about Natashia Schneider’s battle with terminal cancer.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Claude Kelly tweeted Adam again:

    @ClaudeKelly: #amitheonlyone who’s lookin 4ward to new music from @adamlambert, Alicia Keys, Rihanna, Usher??

    LOVE that man.

  • Mary102

    Life as an Adam fan has been wonderful since we were first exposed to him with Bohemian Rhapsody.

    LOL! Too true :-) I’ve enjoyed every moment of the year of Adam (except a brief period around mid-May that won’t be discussed again ;-))

    Otherwise, what joy his music and performances have brought us so far!

    Trying to catch up on the thread. Completely concur with MJ about RCA picking something quite different from TFM to target a different market. Love it. But that picking a single in the next few weeks has me sad :-( But at least we have TFM to tide us over!

    Yea, weekend of Adam song leak! It’s a beautiful thing!

  • Janus

    Well, Time for Miracles sounds like a hard rock power ballad to me. I actually like the vocals. Just not the song, as far as I can tell. That doesn’t mean it won’t do well. My main point was that I think electro music is more popular in Europe than rock.

    As far as Eastern Europe goes, I think you’re right about the electro music being more popular than hard rock (I heard that everywhere I went as well). But they seem to really like the big blockbuster disaster movies, so I think that this song could really take off there because of the association with the movie.

  • dhunken

    Well, Time for Miracles sounds like a hard rock power ballad to me. I actually like the vocals. Just not the song, as far as I can tell. That doesn’t mean it won’t do well. My main point was that I think electro music is more popular in Europe than rock.

    I wasn’t calling you on anything I was just trying to understand what your post meant. Sorry the 100watt bulb in my head is only running on 40watts right now. ;-)

  • CindyM

    Claude Kelly’s latest tweet:

    ClaudeKelly #amitheonlyone who’s lookin 4ward to new music from @adamlambert, Alicia Keys, Rihanna, Usher??
    8 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    His tweet from earlier today:

    RT @gknee87 Adam Lambert has CRAZY vocals. Any writer is probably going NUTS to work with him<==YUP, HE'S PRETTY DAMN INCREDIBLE =]

    I love that Adam's collaborators speak so highly about his talent. He must be a dream to work with for so many to comment so publicly and favorably.

  • jpfan

    I guess the twitter trending thing is the new mindless pastime for Idol fans. Back in the day they had to make due with spamming meaningless polls.

    In general the combination of “miracle” and things blowing up = cheese. Actually “miracle” in the title of a song is usually a very bad sign. ;)

  • dhunken

    LOL! Too true :-) I’ve enjoyed every moment of the year of Adam (except a brief period around mid-May that won’t be discussed again ;-) )

    I know I was upset with that Entertainment Weekly Article too and the whole not just because he is gay thing. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Calliope, I’ll bow to your knowledge, ’cause I know it’s vast, and includes living in Europe. :-)

  • Maria22

    jpfan
    October 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm
    The director’s last movie 10,000 BC bombed in the US but did very well internationally. So 2012 may do the same. And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    I have a not so sneaky feeling it’ll do well in the U.S. also…

  • alaadam

    LOL! Too true I’ve enjoyed every moment of the year of Adam (except a brief period around mid-May that won’t be discussed again )

    I know I was upset with that Entertainment Weekly Article too and the whole not just because he is gay thing.

    Hillarious!

  • Mary102

    Which could mean several hit single worthy songs. You know, if you wanna stay positive.

    Makes me think of Lady Gaga and the BEP latest CD’s – it would have been hard picking the best track as the first single from those – they’ve both had so many hits from it already. If Adam came anywhere close to either of those successes, I would be in heaven :-)

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I wasn’t calling you on anything I was just trying to understand what your post meant. Sorry the 100watt bulb in my head is only running on 40watts right now.

    For the record, I see no reason TFM won’t do great here in the US. I predict it does quite well, actually. Just because I’m not enamoured means little. :-) Who knows, it could grow on me after I hear the full song.

  • Mary102

    I know I was upset with that Entertainment Weekly Article too and the whole not just because he is gay thing.

    LOL! I knooowww, riiight? Stupid EW cover story (that is now framed next to my RS cover issue)

  • dhunken

    For the record, I see no reason TFM won’t do great here in the US. I predict it does quite well, actually. Just because I’m not enamoured means little. :-) Who knows, it could grow on me after I hear the full song.

    That’s the spirit PJ. :mrgreen:

  • jpfan

    Oops, I saw it wasn’t written by two Russians so I edited that. I don’t need a hug, thank you. :)

    I thought 10,000 BC was a bigger hit than that. The problem for 2012 is that it will be overshadowed by the Twilight sequel the following week. It really only has a week to make a big splash in the media.

  • Calliope

    Calliope, I’ll bow to your knowledge, ’cause I know it’s vast, and includes living in Europe.

    Haha, thanks. :) I’d like to blame listening to a lot of music and not sitting still. ;) That and my old gym playing music channels from all over Europe (German music channels were my favorite). A lot of European music channels still play music constantly, and the UK has LOADS of channels. Concept. I guess Youtube killed the video star here.

    I’d give electronic music the edge over rock in clubs and music that is being played in shops and the radio, but arena rock of the 80′s still does really well there from what I read when it came to touring and the like (that’s just for Eastern Europe though, not Western, Southern or Northern Europe).

  • Q3

    jpfan: The director’s last movie 10,000 BC bombed in the US but did very well internationally. So 2012 may do the same. And I’m sure the cheesetastic TFM may do better overseas as well.

    I predict that both 2012 and TfM will do well in the US. Emmerich is the 18th highest grossing director of all time, and that is mostly based on his success in the US where his films have generated over $978 million; his average film has grossed $135 million in the US alone. He has also produced, directed and co-wrote two of the top grossing films of all time:

    1996 Independence Day $958 million gross
    2004 The Day After Tomorrow $652 million gross

    The problem for 2012 is that it will be overshadowed by the Twilight sequel the following week. It really only has a week to make a big splash in the media.

    Totally different markets — 2012 Sci-Fi action advention explosion porn = men; Twillight = younger women. My prediction is that 2012 will gross more than Twillight, but that they will both do really well.

    ETA: typo corrected!

  • dhunken

    I thought 10,000 BC was a bigger hit than that. The problem for 2012 is that it will be overshadowed by the Twilight sequel the following week. It really only has a week to make a big splash in the media.

    Oh JPfan have to slightly disagree with you. Now I do believe 100% that Twilight sequel will be the number 1 movie when it opens but that does not mean that 2012 will crash and burn. (well in the movie itself it will) It will be during the time when multiple movies due well. You know I know it hard to believe but during the summer Ice age, Transformers, and Harry Potter all opened within weeks of each other and shockingly they all grossed a gross amount of money. So all is not lost.

  • alaadam

    Doesn’t both movies come out in the beginning of the Holiday season just as football season is coming to an end? If so, going to movies is pretty big during the holidays at my house. During Thanksgiving, we all go to a couple as a family-it;s the only time we do that.

  • NewFan

    He has also produced, directed and co-wrote two of the top gross films of all time:

    Roland would be hurt by this.

  • alaadam

    I have a question: #timeformiracles is still trending at #7. How do peeps know how long it has been trending? Are they guessing about the hour it started and calculate from there or is there real data?

  • zzatrms

    JOJOSIE
    October 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm
    My first thoughts when hearing TFM was having it blasting in my car cd player trying to singing along. As Sharver would say ‘good times’ . I don’t like Adam compared to any iconic singers as I just want Adam to be Adam. He to me is unlike any singer I can remember, and I should have a good memory as I’m probably the oldest poster here. His remarkable vocal talent, his gorgeous looks, his very positive and quirky personality and I better not forget the guy can move. I hope I like his single, but I can’t imagine I won’t as he hasn’t disappointed me yet.

    THIS ^^^^

    I’m also one of the older posters here and Adam is the best I’ve ever heard. I just sat in awe of him on AI. (I still watch his performances on AI daily.) Our neighborhood lost electric on Tuesday of Country week. Electric company said it might be 24-48 hours before service would be restored. A daughter checked the motels to make sure they got FOX and off we went so as not to miss Adam.

    soverymel
    October 10, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    I can’t wait till we get a REAL recording and not this internet quality crap, not because I can actually tell the difference, but so that I can watch while music aficionados talk about it intelligently. Fascinating. Thank you!

    THIS^

    I have learned so much on this blog. All I seem to do anymore is read the blog and rewatch Adam. I used to do so much … besides the daily routine.

  • dhunken

    I have learned so much on this blog. All I seem to do anymore is read the blog and re-watch Adam. I used to do so much ‘ ¦ besides the daily routine.

    Welcome you are in the right place :-)

  • readon

    Welcome you are in the right place

    Welcome zzatrms.

  • Tess

    jpfan
    October 10, 2009 at 10:25 pm ….

    I think that the premise of the 2012 prophecy is all about the miracle of rebirth after the disastor. People think that 2012 is about the end of civilization…but it is actually about man’s ability to overcome the corruption of “mankind” and to bring forth a new and more enlightened existence out of the ashes. Hence, the title of the song.

    And even though I call it cheesy (based on years of being “brainwashed” to belive that sentimentality and caring and faith and hope are subjects only discussed or visited by the unworldly among us) I really think that it’s OK for a handsome young OTT singer to sing about these things. Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

  • alaadam

    Our neighborhood lost electric on Tuesday of Country week. Electric company said it might be 24-48 hours before service would be restored. A daughter checked the motels to make sure they got FOX and off we went so as not to miss Adam.

    ROFLMAO! I would have done the same. My daughter had an awards night for top three where she got a couple college scholarships. I left early-missed one of her presentations-to get home to see Adam. I kinda felt guilty but it was crowded-she didn’t miss me-and i didn’t miss Adam! lol

  • Q3

    alaadam: I have a question: #timeformiracles is still trending at #7. How do peeps know how long it has been trending? Are they guessing about the hour it started and calculate from there or is there real data?

    ETA: I think this is the longest Idol-related trend so far. Certainly since January 2009.

    There is a “Twitter Trends” beta that does tracking but it isn’t accurate.

    I think most people just keep track. I go by the comments on Idol sites — saying things like “Wow, #timeformiracles is trending at #8!!” IDF_Adam Lambert or AL.com usually have the first Adam trend reports

  • clearone

    Our neighborhood lost electric on Tuesday of Country week. Electric company said it might be 24-48 hours before service would be restored. A daughter checked the motels to make sure they got FOX and off we went so as not to miss Adam.

    ROFLMAO! I would have done the same. My daughter had an awards night for top three where she got a couple college scholarships. I left early-missed one of her presentations-to get home to see Adam. I kinda felt guilty but it was crowded-she didn’t miss me-and i didn’t miss Adam! lol

    I think I would have recorded Adam and watched when I got home. To each their own though……..

    Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

    Absolutely!

  • iluvai

    In general the combination of ‘miracle’  and things blowing up = cheese. Actually ‘miracle’  in the title of a song is usually a very bad sign.

    I think the people in the movie need a “miracle”. And someone else said how they thought Adam’s enchanting, soothing voice was quite the juxtaposition to the end of the world theme. I agree. His voice at the end of 2012 is all about hope and renewal.

  • dhunken

    ETA: I think this is the longest Idol-related trend so far. Certainly since January 2009.

    Q3 Was that when Adam Lambert trended for 9 days? Adam Lambert is in Twitter top 50 tends of all time. (since its inception of 2006)

  • zzatrms

    I think I would have recorded Adam and watched when I got home. To each their own though’ ¦’ ¦..

    That wouldn’t have worked for me :(

  • iluvai

    I guess the twitter trending thing is the new mindless pastime for Idol fans. Back in the day they had to make due with spamming meaningless polls.

    Sorry, I keep seeming to disagree with you tonight. But I’m an Idol fan and seriously I don’t twitter. But I do buy stuff that I like.

  • Gigi3

    I have learned so much on this blog. All I seem to do anymore is read the blog and re-watch Adam. I used to do so much ‘ ¦ besides the daily routine.

    You have found your tribe.

  • iluvai

    LOL! I knooowww, riiight? Stupid EW cover story (that is now framed next to my RS cover issue

    )

    Nooo. Not you tooo. Anything Adam is good, right???

  • clearone

    I think I would have recorded Adam and watched when I got home. To each their own though’ ¦’ ¦..

    That wouldn’t have worked for me

    Oh I’m sorry, I know that it wouldn’t have! Please excuse my brain cramp!

  • iluvai

    ROFLMAO! I would have done the same. My daughter had an awards night for top three where she got a couple college scholarships. I left early-missed one of her presentations-to get home to see Adam. I kinda felt guilty but it was crowded-she didn’t miss me-and i didn’t miss Adam! lol

    I completely understand!!!

  • Q3

    Q3: I think this is the longest Idol-related trend so far. Certainly since January 2009.

    dhunken: Was that when Adam Lambert trended for 9 days? Adam Lambert is in Twitter top 50 tends of all time. (since its inception of 2006)

    Adam Lambert trended to 9 days total but over the course of four months — usually for 4 to 6 hours at a time.

    #timeformiracles have been on the Top 10 since around 2:30 PM ET 10/9/09. That’s over 31 hours straight.

  • dhunken

    Nooo. Not you tooo. Anything Adam is good, right???

    Well as long as you believe in the Fierce. The Fierce will always taking care of you and make it all good. So May the Fierce be with you?

  • iluvai

    Tess
    October 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    jpfan
    October 10, 2009 at 10:25 pm ‘ ¦.

    I think that the premise of the 2012 prophecy is all about the miracle of rebirth after the disastor. People think that 2012 is about the end of civilization’ ¦but it is actually about man’s ability to overcome the corruption of ‘mankind’  and to bring forth a new and more enlightened existence out of the ashes. Hence, the title of the song.

    And even though I call it cheesy (based on years of being ‘brainwashed’  to belive that sentimentality and caring and faith and hope are subjects only discussed or visited by the unworldly among us) I really think that it’s OK for a handsome young OTT singer to sing about these things. Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

    Sorry Tess. I think I posted a part of your quote without reading the whole thingl Very nicely said. Awesome post.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    You know, Tess, I love what you have to say. Also? I’d love to have a quick peek at everyone’s iPod. I have a strange feeling there’s lots of “cheesy” music hidden within the “super cool” stuff.

    The only time music is about sitting at the cool kids’ lunch table is in junior high. After that, love what makes you feel.

  • iluvai

    dhunken:

    I’ve lost the ability to “quote” it seems. So I can’t copy/paste your words. But yes, the Fierce is with me baby!!! lol.

  • dhunken

    Adam Lambert trended to 9 days total but over the course of four months ‘” usually for 4 to 6 hours at a time.

    Oh thanks I never understood how twitter worked when it came to trends. I actually thought Adam Lambert Trended for 9 days straight. Your explanation makes more sense. 31 hours trending for Timeformiracles is really very impressive how ever one wants to explain why it is happening.

  • iluvai

    Zeus: Still can’t copy/paste quotes. But your’s at 11:21 p.m.— yes!!! agree!!!!

  • alaadam

    I think I would have recorded Adam and watched when I got home. To each their own though’ ¦’ ¦..

    Couldn’t-it was a voting night!!!!

  • alaadam

    Just saw on Showbiz Tonight news ticker—Paula Adbul and Adam Lambert to announce AMA nominees-blah blah-It didn’t say Snoop Dawg but only so many letters can go on the screen I guess. i was just happy to see Adam’s name up there.

  • NewFan

    Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

    I don’t get this bit. What are you guys meaning when you say “21st century PCism?

  • alaadam

    Look at Sarver’s latest tweet:

    michaelsarver1 RT @JEANNINEE9: @michaelsarver1 what was the score?…#timeformiracles 13-3

  • Maria22

    Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

    I don’t get this bit. What are you guys meaning when you say ’21st century PCism?

    I a guessing here that 21st century pc-ism in this context means being ‘cool, cynical and blasse’ and uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment…

  • Lynne

    In general the combination of ‘miracle’  and things blowing up = cheese. Actually ‘miracle’  in the title of a song is usually a very bad sign.

    When they wrote the song, they were dealing with cancer, and hoping for the miracle that a cure can be, and that makes the lyrics and the title not cheesy to me. In that context, the lyrics, written as their lives were blowing up, reflect the triumph of the human spirit and the will not to give up living and loving and hoping for a better time.

    If that is cheesy, then when the chips are down, bring on the cheese.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    And even though I call it cheesy (based on years of being ‘brainwashed’  to belive that sentimentality and caring and faith and hope are subjects only discussed or visited by the unworldly among us) I really think that it’s OK for a handsome young OTT singer to sing about these things.

    Agreed. But I find the music cheesy, just as much as the lyrics.

    And if one of the writers was included on a track from Queens of the Stoneage, very cool. I know they wouldn’t have recorded THIS track, though.

    The only time music is about sitting at the cool kids’ lunch table is in junior high. After that, love what makes you feel.

    Of course! It all depends on your cheesy music tastes. Mine are not power ballads, but I do heart me some Cher circa the “I Believe” era. And Madonna “Ray of Light.” No one’s guilty pleasure is better than anyone else’s. That doesn’t mean you can’t call it cheese. ;-) Oh, and I still love the song that made me cry when I was a tyke. LOL.

  • Tess

    I a guessing here that 21st century pc-ism in this context means being ‘cool, cynical and blasse’ and uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment’ ¦

    Maria22….

    Would you be my interpreter…you said it perfectly. I have this bad habit of being slightly obtuse and it’s nice to know that people do understand what I am trying to say. Thanks

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    BTW, that’s why I was so hard on Adam when he butchered Cher. LOL.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Ugh, the condescension in this thread. Seriously people, just allow folks to have their opinions, ok?

  • dhunken

    When they wrote the song, they were dealing with cancer, and hoping for the miracle that a cure can be, and that makes the lyrics and the title not cheesy to me. In that context, the lyrics, written as their lives were blowing up, reflect the triumph of the human spirit and the will not to give up living and loving and hoping for a better time.

    Wow the line that says I ain’t giving up on us has so much more meaning now. its like even the worst of the worst and knowing that there is no chance and you’ve exhausted all options that the miracle is the US and the time you have with eachother. I am not really explaining the meaning I am getting from this but Holly Toledo, Powerful

  • soverymel

    alaadam
    How do peeps know how long it has been trending? Are they guessing about the hour it started and calculate from there or is there real data?

    There are a bunch of third-party tools for tracking twitter trends, but many are unreliable. The ones I use are Trendistic.com (which gives you nice graphs) and Whatthetrend.com (which isn’t quite as granular).

    Here’s the Trendistic graph for #timeformiracles:

    http://www.trendistic.com/timeformiracles

    And here’s what Whatthetrend’s looks like:

    http://www.whatthetrend.com/trend/%23timeformiracles

  • iluvai

    I’m excited for the new Twilight movie.

    But I can’t wait for 2012. :)

  • Q3

    pj: BTW, that’s why I was so hard on Adam when he butchered Cher. LOL.

    LOL! Just shows how taste can vary. “Believe” is one of my fav Adam performances — truly a guilty pleasure but I really love it.

    I think butchering was involved with the live version of “One” — but I love the beautiful “One” studio version.

  • iluvai

    Grrr.
    Still can’t copy and paste. PJ: Adam made me love Cher’s song. So interesting all the opinions– all valid of course!!!

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Ah, so I loved Cher’s version because it was dancy and that tempered the cheesy lyrics with the cheesy dance beats. I dunno. Heh. I know I am alone in this. No worries. :)

  • readon

    Checking up on an old post on the number of views at AOL. The original psot at 5:14 EST showed 352,043 views. At 10:37 ESt, the views are now at 383,550. That is approximately 31,500 viewers per hour.

    http://tinyurl.com/yh7wwsr

    There are people out there that are very interested in this video clip.

  • NewFan

    Thanks Maria22 and Tess. It makes sense to me now.

    And I agree. “Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment” has been around for far too long. And, I guess, “cool, cynical and blasse” is a post-hippie kind of thing. And, we’d be much better off with a lot more optimism and hope.

    So, yeah. I think that movies like 2012 and songs like TFM give us a welcome, larger than life, excuse to be lifted and inspired. Personally, I love strong, moving music. In fact, at this moment I feel able to admit that I even love Wagner. So there!

  • iluvai

    PJ: Thanks and thanks everyone! Fun tonight!! Take care.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    As for the meaning behind the song… well, I don’t think a good song needs to be explained. I don’t need to know what the writer is going through to feel moved if the song is to stand alone. *shrugs*

    Night Iluvai!

  • BeckyMD

    Checking up on an old post on the number of views at AOL. The original psot at 5:14 EST showed 352,043 views. At 10:37 ESt, the views are now at 383,550. That is approximately 31,500 viewers per hour.

    That’s 31,500 in 5 hours, so 6,300 views per hours, not viewers since there will be quite a few replay.

  • Q3

    pj: Ah, so I loved Cher’s version because it was dancy and that tempered the cheesy lyrics with the cheesy dance beats. I dunno. Heh. I know I am alone in this. No worries.

    I loved the Cher dance version of Believe and knew every line of that song. But I never really though about the lyrics meaning anything until Adam sang it and turned it into a rock ballad. Plus, it was the moment I realized how brave and honest he really was — after that performance he really didn’t need to “come out” in Rolling Stone. And that was just beginning of Adam pushing boundaries.

    I expect that album to push a few boundaries, too — inspite of 19R’s involvement.

  • Maria22

    Sometimes its OK to go outside the box of 21st century PCism and to sing about old time values and hopes and dreams.

    I don’t get this bit. What are you guys meaning when you say ’21st century PCism?

    I thought you expressed yourself beautifully Tess :)

  • alaadam

    so 6,300 views per hours, not viewers since there will be quite a few replay.

    Why does this remind me of votes and voters?

  • Maria22

    NewFan
    October 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    He has also produced, directed and co-wrote two of the top gross films of all time:

    Roland would be hurt by this.

    Now that’s funny :)

  • sanduskyday

    My daughter had an awards night for top three where she got a couple college scholarships. I left early-missed one of her presentations-to get home to see Adam.

    You are an incredibly devoted fan. I am blown away by the Adam love.

  • hwc

    With a running time of 4:43, A Time for Miracles must have a heck of a slow build. I can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

  • soverymel

    BeckyMD
    That’s 31,500 in 5 hours, so 6,300 views per hours, not viewers since there will be quite a few replay

    Yeah, as much as I would love it to be unique views, I’m pretty sure that there are lots of repeat viewings in there. Nothing wrong with that, it just means people like it.

    I know I rewatched it several times yesterday. Although once the download was available I switched over to that, much easier to play it from iTunes.

  • http://www.f3properties.com Animated

    I would like to think that there are a horde of song writers and producers out there that descended on Adam and thus Adam and his label has a whole plethora of songs to chose from for his album.
    For me that is just great – I would love to have 10 no , 20 more songs from Adam this year. I already have 40 plus of AI and pre AI songs – and I am yearning for fresh mint well recorded songs . If I get dance tunes – that is heaven. Classic rock – another heaven. Rock Ballad like TFM – still another heaven .
    The possibilities are endless and very exciting . If they throw in Adam making voices and singing with the Chipmunks – our 5 year old adores Alvin and the Chipmunks so it will be heaven to have Adam and the Chipmunks.

    Now time to wait patiently again.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    And I agree. ‘Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment’  has been around for far too long.

    So….people who find “Time for Miracles” cheesy and sentimental are “Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment?” I hope that’s not the leap we’re making here.

  • Q3

    Adam album TBD has moved into the Top 10 at #7 on Amazon.com Canada. This is the first time it’s been in the Top 10 in Canada.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    And I have to say I’m super cranky right now, because I had a really busy day and couldn’t spend every minute in this thread. Not really happy that I missed half of the opening act tonight.

  • dhunken

    pj
    October 10, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Ah, so I loved Cher’s version because it was dancy and that tempered the cheesy lyrics with the cheesy dance beats. I dunno. Heh. I know I am alone in this. No worries. :)

    (raises left hand slowly)….I love Cher’s version too!

  • suebrody

    Oh, mj. Sorry! :( Ryan Star was really good. But hope you had great seats for the concert. Now they are playing CBTM on mix and I am smiling.

    ETA: Just came here to say hi. Am exhausted after screaming at Cook concert. Missed everyone. Sunn said no leakage, so I will just say goodnight.

  • dhunken

    mj
    October 11, 2009 at 12:01 am

    And I agree. ‘Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment’  has been around for far too long.

    So’ ¦.people who find ‘Time for Miracles’  cheesy and sentimental are ‘Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment?’  I hope that’s not the leap we’re making here.

    Well isn’t that basically the same thing as people telling those of us who do like it that it that we like Cheesy crappy ballads.

    By the way MJ did you get the e-mail I sent you?

    Sorry MJ you had a stressful night and missed half the opening act. Was David Good?

  • Lynne

    As for the meaning behind the song’ ¦ well, I don’t think a good song needs to be explained.

    I agree with you. A song has to work for you in and of itself.

    If you already like the song, the context can add a new layer of meaning to it, but if you dont like the song, you just dont like it, and that is that.

  • dhunken

    That’s 31,500 in 5 hours, so 6,300 views per hours, not viewers since there will be quite a few replay.

    (slowly raises right hand) …. Guilty!!!

  • NewFan

    So’ ¦.people who find ‘Time for Miracles’  cheesy and sentimental are ‘Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment?’  I hope that’s not the leap we’re making here.

    No leap intended. Just lamenting the state of society as a whole … as I see it. Puritan influence … etc.

  • iluvai

    So’ ¦.people who find ‘Time for Miracles’  cheesy and sentimental are ‘Uncomfortable with emotions and sentiment?’  I hope that’s not the leap we’re making here.

    No… that’s not the leap. They just probably think a song like this sucks.

    However I think some people who like it consider it “cheese”.

  • NewFan

    Also …

    I don’t get this bit. What are you guys meaning when you say ’21st century PCism?

    I thought you expressed yourself beautifully Tess :)

    Tess did express herself beautifully. No slight intended Tess. I just asked for clarification because people often mean drastically different things when they say “PC”. And I think there are some differences in meaning … from one side of the Canada/US border to the other.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    MJ, I’m sorry you missed Ryan Star if he was the opening act. I flove him. Gah. I’d be more interested in seeing him than Cookie.

  • dhunken

    Animated
    October 11, 2009 at 12:00 am

    I would like to think that there are a horde of song writers and producers out there that descended on Adam and thus Adam and his label has a whole plethora of songs to chose from for his album.
    For me that is just great ‘“ I would love to have 10 no , 20 more songs from Adam this year. I already have 40 plus of AI and pre AI songs ‘“ and I am yearning for fresh mint well recorded songs . If I get dance tunes ‘“ that is heaven. Classic rock ‘“ another heaven. Rock Ballad like TFM ‘“ still another heaven .
    The possibilities are endless and very exciting . If they throw in Adam making voices and singing with the Chipmunks ‘“ our 5 year old adores Alvin and the Chipmunks so it will be heaven to have Adam and the Chipmunks.

    Now time to wait patiently again.

    You had me right up to the wait patiently! :mrgreen:

  • NewFan

    However I think some people who like it consider it ‘cheese’ .

    Yep. I like it. I like cheese … good cheese. As someone said earlier… Brie please instead of Velveeta.

  • suebrody

    Hey, all, wanted to leave you w/ today’s Aimee tweet:’

    AimeeMayo @suebrody1 This is as awesome as I hoped it would be. So happy Adam Lambert showed up- he is a wild & beautiful spirit.about 6 hours ago from web in reply to suebrody1

    :)

    Oh, and my friend liked Ryan Star better than Cook as well, pj. Ryan was excellent, but David warms my heart. Ciao.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Yep. I like it. I like cheese ‘ ¦ good cheese. As someone said earlier’ ¦ Brie please instead of Velveeta.

    TOM is more like a Kraft single.

  • suebrody

    Oh…and finally…ADAM TWEET!!!

    adamlambert Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!1 minute ago from Echofon

    *jumping up and down*

    GLAM
    ROCK
    FOR
    THE
    WIN

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Well isn’t that basically the same thing as people telling those of us who do like it that it that we like Cheesy crappy ballads.

    Most of those posts were deleted. As many as I could manage to get.

  • Maria22

    No leap intended. Just lamenting the state of society as a whole ‘ ¦ as I see it. Puritan influence ‘ ¦ etc.

    MJ it started off as a discussion of how the single will do in different countries and why and we agreed that US is somewhat stifled in their emotional expression (due to British and Puritan influence – something that I belive is generally accepted in various cultural studies), no condescending was implied or meant…IMO

  • dhunken

    pj
    October 11, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Yep. I like it. I like cheese ‘ ¦ good cheese. As someone said earlier’ ¦ Brie please instead of Velveeta.

    TOM is more like a Kraft single.

    Funny!

  • dhunken

    mj
    October 11, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Well isn’t that basically the same thing as people telling those of us who do like it that it that we like Cheesy crappy ballads.

    Most of those posts were deleted. As many as I could manage to get.

    Thank you!

  • Lynne

    I think butchering was involved with the live version of ‘One’  ‘” but I love the beautiful ‘One’  studio version.

    I agree with you. “One” was my least favorite Adam performance on AI, but I love the studio version.

  • NewFan

    pj

    I didn’t know that Kraft made Brie singles. They’re really getting pricey and upscale since me mum made me wonderbread sandwiches for lunch.

    BTW. People may not admit it now but sooooo many of us loved Believe. I did. Cher has always been wonderful. Great voice (and she can wear Bob Mackie too).

  • Q3

    #timeformiracles is no longer on Twitter Top 10 Trend list — it lasted for 34 hours!

  • BeckyMD

    adamlambert Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!1 minute ago from Echofon

    teaser!!!

  • Natasha

    You know, Tess, I love what you have to say. Also? I’d love to have a quick peek at everyone’s iPod. I have a strange feeling there’s lots of ‘cheesy’  music hidden within the ‘super cool’  stuff.

    The only time music is about sitting at the cool kids’ lunch table is in junior high. After that, love what makes you feel.

    Totally. My ipod has it’s share of cheesetastic ridiculous songs. A recent addition is Britney’s ’3′. The profundity moved me to tears. One two three, not only you and me, gettin down with 3 p…..

    As for 2012 and the lyrics to TFM I remember Adam saying in an interview that the film centers on one family and their relationships to each other during this crisis. So in addition to racing around dodging debris and explosions with a WTF look on his face I suspect John Cusack is also desperately trying to save his family relationships as well.

    This is typical of disaster films. It’s not enough that your ship is sinking or the world is ending, you have to have the added complication of having a jerk for a fiance and falling in love with someone else who just happened to be right there when you tried to throw yourself off the back of the ship in a fit of despair. These types of movies are not exactly subtle and neither are the songs that go with them.

  • Maddy

    I’m not really thinking about whether its cheesy or not, I just really love listening to him and I’m glad I’ll be able to listen to the whole song soon. If it’s a guilty pleasure I don’t mind, I’ll get a lot of pleasure out of it!

  • sidewalkstory

    Adam tweets:

    Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

  • girlygirl

    Adam is heard from!

    #Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!
    13 minutes ago from Echofon

    Glam rock, cool! Very excited to hear this stuff

  • BeckyMD

    Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

    was he locked in Rob’s studio for the past two days and didn’t know snippet of TFM was out?

  • lola

    With Adam’s latest tweet, does it mean that he’s done recording for the album and will be in the process of song selection?

  • Q3

    AdamLambert: Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

    I have been hoping that Adam and Rob Cavallo were working on some glam rock songs. And I can’t wait to hear it, too!

  • BeckyMD

    With Adam’s latest tweet, does it mean that he’s done recording for the album and will be in the process of song selection?

    I was thinking about that too. But it could also mean that he’s done with the session with Rob Cavallo. He may have other recording with other people later. idk.

  • Q3

    lola: With Adam’s latest tweet, does it mean that he’s done recording for the album and will be in the process of song selection?

    I think that he is done the 6 song with Rob Cavallo, not done recording. He probably has about 10 days left before he has to finish recording.

  • suebrody

    I have been hoping that Adam and Rob Cavallo were working on some glam rock songs. And I can’t wait to hear it, too!

    Me, too!!! Of course, he is getting the requisite did you know #timeformiracles trended for 24 hours (or whatever) questions (along with requests for bubble tweets); I am curious about, that. I am more curious, however, as to whether or not he is done recording (I bet he is).

    SO EXCITED FOR ALBUM RELEASE!!! (Haven’t I gone to bed yet?!)

  • sidewalkstory

    I think that he is done the 6 song with Rob Cavallo, not done recording. He probably has about 10 days left before he has to finish recording.

    That close to drop date?

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    AdamLambert: Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

    Finally he tweets. And not a word about TFM typical Adam.

  • dhunken

    I really respect and appreciate all the opinions on here. Even the ones so opposite of mine. Those of you who do not like Adam or this song for whatever reason (and I know there are many) I can only say I hope that you find a artist or have and artist that makes you as happy and as excited as I am with Adam. As for me I LOVE TIME FOR MIRACLES. I don’t think it is Cheese I think it is a damn good Rock song. (well as far as one can determine based on 1:27 snippet, ;-) but I have heard it about 2500 times)(give or take) You can laugh at me tell me I don’t know anything about music, tell me the world loves electro-pop, and that is all good. But I LOVE THIS SONG, I LOVE ADAM and short of him committing a class A felony will not change my mind. Whew feel better. Did I mention I LOVE TIME FOR MIRACLES!

  • girlygirl

    I think Adam still has more recording to do. He’s just finished working on the stuff he was doing with Rob Cavallo.

  • suebrody

    @ohferras@adamlambert cant wait for everyone to hear our song witch!3 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to adamlambert

  • suebrody

    Good point, Sunn. Adam does it all on HIS terms. That makes him Adam.

    dhunken, totally agree.

    night, all

  • BeckyMD

    @ohferras@adamlambert cant wait for everyone to hear our song witch!3 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to adamlambert

    I’m very interested in Ferras’ song. Did he call Adam or their song witch?

  • cher

    Brian Mays was right. What a fabulous song and singer!!! Really moving, gives me chills and hot flashes at the same time. Gonna be epic for sure. Can’t wait for the song and the movie!! Wow!! Does anyone know who wrote “Time for Miracles”?

  • hwc

    Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

    I bet that Meat Loaf is glad to finally go back to Cavallo’s studio. Speakking of which, you know that would be swell? A duet with Adam Lambert and Meat Loaf on I’d Do Anything for Love from Bat Out of Hell II. What do you guys think?

  • dhunken

    pj
    October 11, 2009 at 1:02 am

    Maybe when she does the next leg of her Farewell Tour..

    I have never seen any of her farewll tours. Sads. Heh. But she would be a badass judge. She’d tell you if you sucked, but be kind, too. No?

    Honestly I think she would make Simon seem like a nurturer. But think She would Love Time for Miracles..(Keeping it OT)

    cher
    October 11, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Brian Mays was right. What a fabulous song and singer!!! Really moving, gives me chills and hot flashes at the same time. Gonna be epic for sure. Can’t wait for the song and the movie!! Wow!! Does anyone know who wrote ‘Time for Miracles’ ?

    LOL and it seems I was right!!! :mrgreen:

  • hwc

    Does anyone know who wrote ‘Time for Miracles’ ?

    Natashia Schneider and Alain Johhnes. I posted links to their Wiki pages and some of their YouTubes a few pages back, but the post may have been deleted.

    She’s Russian, he’s from Chile. They had some minor hits with their rock band the Eleven and have recorded and toured with Pearl Jam, Soungarden, and others. Very well respected. She died of cancer last year. The song was quite clearly written by the two of them to each other in hopes of a miracle.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    Glam Rock. Oh hellz ya.

    ::Does backflips::

  • robininny

    Does anyone know who wrote ‘Time for Miracles’ ?

    Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Honestly I think she would make Simon seem like a nurturer. But think She would Love Time for Miracles..(Keeping it OT)

    She prolly would.

    ETA: I’m with GeminiDolly… waiting for the Glamz Rock. ;-)

    Nice, respectful discussion. Thanks y’all. Good night.

  • Finn

    LOL and it seems I was right!!!

    dhunken – Now, that was funny!!

  • soverymel

    cher
    Brian Mays was right. What a fabulous song and singer!!! Really moving, gives me chills and hot flashes at the same time. Gonna be epic for sure. Can’t wait for the song and the movie!! Wow!! Does anyone know who wrote ‘Time for Miracles’ ?

    LMAO, yep I KNEW Cher must be an MJ’s lurker! Too funny.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    You go “Cher!” :-)

  • BeckyMD

    LMAO, yep I KNEW Cher must be an MJ’s lurker! Too funny.

    MTE. the timing couldn’t have been better ;)

  • Maria22

    dhunken
    October 11, 2009 at 12:59 am
    pj
    October 11, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Cher would never do Idol. LOL. I don’t think’ ¦

    Maybe when she does the next leg of her Farewell Tour..

    Yes, farewell tour, take 20, sort of like Rocky XIV LOL

  • Finn

    Hi Cher – we were just talking about Cher the singer and you just popped in out of nowhere. Too funny!

    I can’t remember the names of the songwriters, but I’m sure someone here will let you know. I love your enthusiasm about the song! Me too.

  • dhunken

    A little OT but in the headline thread someone posted a video of David Cook and he Pimps Adam & Kris. Really a Class Act that DC

  • Calliope

    Can I just say that I too love some cheese? If you sift through my iPod you’d find a lot of it. I like The Archies, and not just Sugar Sugar. I have a thing for power ballads as well. Sure, they are to music what pizza rolls are to the culinary world, but I just like both of them. Guilty pleasures, and all that.

    And I really like Adam a lot, but his cover of Cher is a bit off-putting to me. I didn’t see it when it first aired, but after he owned me with RoF I went back and watched it. Can’t say I would have got hooked on him then if I did see it.

  • NewFan

    Hi Cher
    Your timing was impeccable.
    Night pj
    Sweet dreams of Cher.

    I wish I knew what these music genres really mean. So many names… Glam, Electronica, Funk, Hip Hop, R&B. I mean I kinda know. But I don’t really know. Today we discussed rock power ballads but I think I was just thinking ‘big disaster movie’ theme songs ala Aerosmith.

    So, it’s back to Wickipedia for me. Unless (she glances around hopefully) somebody here knows some rule of thumb, shorthand knowledge … stuff …

  • dhunken

    but after he owned me with RoF

    RoF did that to you too huh ;-)

  • dhunken

    So, it’s back to Wickipedia for me. Unless (she glances around hopefully) somebody here knows some rule of thumb, shorthand knowledge ‘ ¦ stuff ‘ ¦

    Sorry Newfan Color me confused too…

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Peeps: Cher isn’t the topic. Let’s not get too off track here.

  • mischa

    AdamLambert: Last studio day w Rob Cavallo! Can’t wait for everyone to hear our glam rock!!!

    Adam’s tweets usually serve a purpose. Could be his sorta subtle way of letting us know that Cavallo’s tracks on this album will NOT sound like TFM. *nods*

    Yay, Glam Rock!!!

  • KLI

    What is “glam rock?” Classic rock with electronic elements? Glam rock sounds good to me but what do u think Adam means here?

    Am on iphone and can’t type much but I am avidly reading.

  • Calliope

    RoF did that to you too huh

    Yes. It was a weird experience since I’m not that big of an Idol fan and was casually watching it till that. Adam made me go hardcore this season. ;)

    Adam’s tweets usually serve a purpose. Could be his sorta subtle way of letting us know that Cavallo’s tracks on this album will NOT sound like TFM. *nods*

    Ha, I thought I was the only one who went there with that. I probably will like TfM in its entirety, but only one disaster film song for me, thanks.

    What is ‘glam rock?’  Classic rock with electronic elements? Glam rock sounds good to me but what do u think Adam means here?

    I’ve seen glam rock used to describe acts from Patrick Wolf (he’s more electronica meets Celtic folk/new wave to me, though, but he is kind of Bowiesque, wears a lot of glitter and has odd costumes) to Muse’s single Uprising. If that covers it for modern types. Classic glam rock acts are Bowie and T. Rex.

  • dhunken

    KLI
    October 11, 2009 at 1:58 am

    What is ‘glam rock?’  Classic rock with electronic elements? Glam rock sounds good to me but what do u think Adam means here?

    Am on iphone and can’t type much but I am avidly reading

    KLI-Glam Rock Is a style that developed in the UK in the post-hippie early 1970s that was “performed by singers and musicians wearing outrageous clothes, makeup, hairstyles, and platform-soled boots.”[1] The flamboyant costumes, and visual styles of glam performers were a campy, theatrical blend of nostalgic references to science fiction and old movies with a deliberate “artificial” look. This is derived in large part from a fusing of transvestism with futurism. It is basically Rock Music with Makeup and costumes

  • NewFan

    dhunken,
    oh. :cry:

    anybody … ?

    Drat.
    Might actually have to do some work here … on a long weekend no less (it’s Thanksgiving in Canada)

    and just before I post this … I hit refresh and there is a definition of glam rock

    ETA
    Janus. I now feel ashamed that I was too lazy to go to Wicki and you weren’t. (clapping smilie next to ashamed smilie)
    ETA
    Dhunken too…

  • dhunken

    NewFan
    October 11, 2009 at 2:07 am

    dhunken,
    oh. :cry:

    Newfan here is the best I can do a link to wiki with all the forms of rock and the explanations of each. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music

  • KLI

    If glam rock equals rock music with makeup and costumes that sounds perfect for our boy! There must be something unique about the sound though–not just the visuals.

  • NewFan

    Wow! dhunken !!! Wow.

    You are not lazy. I would plead turkey induced sleepiness except that turkey day is tomorrow (or Monday).

    THANK YOU!

    (Do you do books and taxes or … research papers?)

    ETA

    OMG! there are 50 kinds of rock music and several are ‘glam’

    back in a bit (or more)(probably more)

  • Janus

    There must be something unique about the sound though’“not just the visuals.

    I think we can assume that the music may be a little OTT. Probably something bombastic, but then again I’m mostly familiar with Queen, not so much the other artists mentioned in the Wiki list. You can probably go through the list and find examples on youtube to maybe get an idea of what glam rock covers.

  • BestAI

    I’m surprised so many writers are reviewing the little snippet of Adam’s TFM. Fortunately I have not heard even one mediocre review (they’ve been great). Can you imagine the press when the entire song comes out? I bet they are just as anxious to hear it as we are. I really, really hope it comes out early next week, cuz I am loving the little snippet, and I have been singing it all day long.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    What is ‘glam rock?’  Classic rock with electronic elements? Glam rock sounds good to me but what do u think Adam means here?

    Modern Glam rock includes Placebo, Muse, Suede and The Darkness.

  • dhunken

    I think we can assume that the music may be a little OTT. Probably something bombastic, but then again I’m mostly familiar with Queen, not so much the other artists mentioned in the Wiki list. You can probably go through the list and find examples on youtube to maybe get an idea of what glam rock covers.

    Yeah but even there descriptions kind of confuse me because they have artist from David Bowie to Lou Reed,Kiss to Sweet, to the New York Dolls, Sex Pistol to Sha Na Na…..huh The only thing the same with all of these artist is OTT

  • Janus

    I am loving the little snippet, and I have been singing it all day long.

    Yeah, I woke up this morning with a weird mashup of TFM and Led Zep’s Kashmir playing in my head. Kinda strange but somehow it seemed to work. Anyway, from the parts I heard, I too think TFM is awesome and can’t wait to hear the rest.

  • dhunken

    Wow! dhunken !!! Wow.

    You are not lazy. I would plead turkey induced sleepiness except that turkey day is tomorrow (or Monday).

    THANK YOU!

    Your Welcome….Glad I could help

  • Janus

    Well, since Adam is such a Muse fan, maybe it will be along those lines. I certainly wouldn’t complain.

  • dhunken

    Sunn
    October 11, 2009 at 2:25 am

    What is ‘glam rock?’  Classic rock with electronic elements? Glam rock sounds good to me but what do u think Adam means here?

    Modern Glam rock includes Placebo, Muse, Suede and The Darkness.

    Sunn since you seem to be more aware of what it is to be Glam Rock…Is there a specific music element that determines Glam Rock. Can you tell just by hearing the song or is it more a visual concept of the Band or Artist

  • CindyM

    Modern Glam rock includes Placebo, Muse, Suede and The Darkness.

    I would think it’s more in this style that Sunn said, rather than old-school glam rock. He has said that his tour included Muse and Bowie as kind of the style he would be doing on his album.

  • CindyM

    LOL..maybe Adam’s choice of Team Jacob in Twilight is paying off:

    Taylor Lautner, the actor who plays Jacob appears in Seventeen Magazine and said this:

    Guilty Pleasure: American Idol
    “Every Tuesday and Wednesday night, I hoped I’d be done filming in time to watch American Idol. I’ve watched all eight seasons. Last season my favorite was Adam Lambert – he’s amazing”

  • dhunken

    LOL..maybe Adam’s choice of Team Jacob in Twilight is paying off:

    Taylor Lautner, the actor who plays Jacob appears in Seventeen Magazine and said this:

    Guilty Pleasure: American Idol
    ‘Every Tuesday and Wednesday night, I hoped I’d be done filming in time to watch American Idol. I’ve watched all eight seasons. Last season my favorite was Adam Lambert ‘“ he’s amazing’ 

    Ok I’m on team Jacob :-)

  • adamaloha

    CindyM
    October 11, 2009 at 2:33 am
    Modern Glam rock includes Placebo, Muse, Suede and The Darkness.

    I would think it’s more in this style that Sunn said, rather than old-school glam rock. He has said that his tour included Muse and Bowie as kind of the style he would be doing on his album.

    IA. Adam also appears to know music history pretty well.. and knows the origins of glam. So he would nod to the old, but rock out with the new. He’s a modern club kid with an old soul.

  • Sherena

    Ok I’m on team Jacob

    I was always on Team Edward but I guess I could switch.

  • dhunken

    He’s a modern club kid with an old soul.

    Great description!

  • adamaloha

    dhunken
    October 11, 2009 at 2:38 am
    LOL..maybe Adam’s choice of Team Jacob in Twilight is paying off:

    Taylor Lautner, the actor who plays Jacob appears in Seventeen Magazine and said this:

    Guilty Pleasure: American Idol
    ‘Every Tuesday and Wednesday night, I hoped I’d be done filming in time to watch American Idol. I’ve watched all eight seasons. Last season my favorite was Adam Lambert ‘“ he’s amazing’ 

    Ok I’m on team Jacob

    okay, me too.

  • adamaloha

    Sherena
    October 11, 2009 at 2:39 am
    Ok I’m on team Jacob

    I was always on Team Edward but I guess I could switch.

    Haha. me too.

    ETA: I guess I’m the me, too! girl tonite.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Sunn since you seem to be more aware of what it is to be Glam Rock’ ¦Is there a specific music element that determines Glam Rock. Can you tell just by hearing the song or is it more a visual concept of the Band or Artist

    Grander musical arrangement than normal rock. Whether it be synth or natural always guitars and bass are present. A strong base line to define a song. Muse is more Orchestral/glam Placebo is more Punk/Glam. The Darkness is more retro/Glam. Glam is very much defined by the voice of the lead singer. A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    EXAMPLES:

    Hazel Eyes; The Darkness:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvc3P2-C3Ns

    Running Up That Hill; Placebo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEEXyRL0qE

  • adamaloha

    sunn Grander musical arrangement than normal rock. Whether it be synth or natural always guitars and bass are present. A strong base line to define a song. Muse is more Orchestral/glam Placebo is more Punk/Glam. The Darkness is more retro/Glam. Glam is very much defined by the voice of the lead singer. A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    Wow. You know your music…

  • Janus

    Ok, I just went and listened to a few clips of The Darkness and Suede (and I’m already familiar with Muse — thank you Adam), and I would say that one thing they all seem to have in common is — hmm, how to put this — uh, exaggerated vocals. The vocals themselves seem to be OTT and somewhat theatrical, complete with plenty of falsetto. Again, I only heard small snippets so take it for what it’s worth.

    ETA: Sunn beat me to it with a much better description. I should really just shut up and let the experts weigh in.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Wow. You know your music’ ¦

    NOt really. It’s a general definition. I should add that Glam is very much about the rhythm of the music, hence a strong base line. It’s alll about that prevailing beat and the voice that flows over it almost soaring over the beat.

  • dhunken

    The Darkness is more retro/Glam. Glam is very much defined by the voice of the lead singer. A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    Ok please excuse me for being really “dumb” but what is the difference between this and Heavy Metal. Because this would be also the same explanation one could give for heavy Metal. Which brings me too was Led Zepplin Glam or Heavy Metal Rock. (Being that Led Zepplin is also one of Adam’s All time Favorite Bands and we know the fantastic job he did with WLL)

  • dhunken

    Darkness sounds a little like Mika to me! and Placebo a little like Pet shop boys (or the singer sounds like Neil Tennant)IMHO

  • adamaloha

    The Darkness sounded more like “glam” to me … but then again I think Queen, Bowie… and I heard influences of both in Hazel Eyes.
    It was very “rock opera-ish” … the melody line, the drama, the spectacular falsetto. I also detected some Asian influence?

  • adamland

    Ok please excuse me for being really ‘dumb’  but what is the difference between this and Heavy Metal. Because this would be also the same explanation one could give for heavy Metal. Which brings me too was Led Zepplin Glam or Heavy Metal Rock. (Being that Led Zepplin is also one of Adam’s All time Favorite Bands and we know how fantastic job he did with WLL)

    I think some of the difference in 70′s and 80′s Glam and Heavy Metal Rock is the way the Glam rockers would dress up and usually in shiny, glittery clothing and makeup, etc. Musically a lot was similar but Glam was more bass line and less super guitar riffs and theatrical in the makeup and dress.

  • NewFan

    Glam vs heavy metal:

    There is a sub-genre of glam called Metal Glam. Hair metal bands.

    Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Kiss, New York Dolls, Sweet, Slade, Mott the Hoople, T.Rex, Gary Glitter, and others. Mà ¶tley Crà ¼e

  • NewFan

    The Power Ballad …From wiki

    During the 1970s, the power ballad was developed by rock bands as an slow, emotional song, that gradually builds to a strong finale … generally focused on love, delivered with powerful vocals and using rock instruments, particularly electric guitars and drums.... came into the existence in the early 1970s, when rock stars attempted to be introspective and sensitive.

    songs like (Led Zeppelin’s) Stairway To Heaven, (Aerosmith’s) Dream On, and (Lynyrd Skynard’s) Free Bird … Mà ¶tley Crà ¼e’s “Home Sweet Home” … the power ballad that popularized the style in the 1980s. Other examples include Foreigner’s ‘I Want to Know What Love Is’ (1984) and Heart’s ‘What about love’ (1985)

    Often used after a hard-rocking anthem

    I think I recall Adam saying that they had “a number of anthems” for the album. He must have meant rock anthem … supposed to be large crowd rousing …

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Ok please excuse me for being really ‘dumb’  but what is the difference between this and Heavy Metal.

    HEavy Metal emphasizes the industrial sound of the instruments. It’s more of a utilitarian genre if you will. It’s about Guitar riffs and loud almost violent energy to both the vocals and the music. It’s about anarchy.

    Glam is all about romanticism. While the Hard Rock vocals are aggressive and dangerous, Glam vocals are persuasive and seductive. Hard Rock vocals dominate the melody – nearly bash it into submission – Glam Rock vocals are the melody. The one distinct difference is the base line. Hard metal doesn’t require that defining rhythmic base line without which Glam rock can’t exist.
    Glam rock is essentially rhythm and a vocal.

    Both genres have one thing in common. They both are theatrical.

  • Janus

    Which brings me too was Led Zepplin Glam

    I’m thinking Led Zep’s Kashmir might be a good example (of course it would be more modernized). It has the driving beat with the floating/soaring vocals and some orchestration.

  • dhunken

    supposed to be large crowd rousing ‘ ¦

    All I know is Time for Miracle has been rousing me all day (and night) So if that is what the Rock Power Ballad is suppose to do Adam hit a home run. IMHO

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    dhunken
    October 11, 2009 at 2:55 am
    Darkness sounds a little like Mika to me

    Mika was influenced by Queen and Bowie. He has his roots in Glam.

    adamaloha
    October 11, 2009 at 2:56 am
    The Darkness sounded more like ‘glam’  to me

    That’s because they’re retro/Glam. They stay close to the 70′s roots of the genre.

  • justjude

    Glam Rock…Yeah, I think the interpretation may be just a little more fluid than which bands were mentioned on Wikipedia. In Adams case….I believe he will bring his own OTT variation; and I mean that in a really good way. His rock idols are mostly Brits, according to him. But he is a very creative guy and he has, good, creative friends who have already helped him with design for the Finale and the tour!!!
    So I think we are going to get some very fab looks along with his decidedly Glam vocals.
    I don’t think we will get “too much” glam, though, as he wants to put out a variety of music on his first album!!
    I JUST CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!!!!! TFM has me delerious with JOY!

    OK, about team Jacob
    Just a darlin with good taste in music……And if I say more than that, someone will accuse me of being…,not a cougar, but,…..a PANTHER!!!!
    Oh Yeah…..I will be at that Moonlight and I will use my niece as “COVER”….uhhuh,uhhuh!!!!

  • dhunken

    HEavy Metal emphasizes the industrial sound of the instruments. It’s more of a untilitarian genre if you will. It’s about Guitar riffs and loud almost violent energy to both the vocals and the music. It’s about anarchy.

    Glam is all about romanticism. While the Hard Rock vocals are aggressive and dangerous, Glam vocals are persuasive and seductive. Hard Rock vocals dominate the melody ‘“ nearly bash it into submission, Glam Rock vocals are the melody. The one distinct difference is the base line. Hard metal doesn’t require that defining rhythmic base line without which Glam rock can’t exist.
    Glam rock is essentially rhythm and a vocal.

    Thank you very much Sunn I actually think I understand it. I am sure that sometimes one bleeds into the other but this is the basis of what defines them.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Janus
    October 11, 2009 at 3:04 am
    Which brings me too was Led Zepplin Glam

    I’m thinking Led Zep’s Kashmir might be a good example (of course it would be more modernized). It has the driving beat with the floating/soaring vocals and some orchestration.

    No. I would count Led Zepplin as Euro Rock which evolved into Orchestral Rock.

    The lines between music genres are not as rigid as Radio stations would want us to believe. Each genre has elements and is influenced by the other.

  • NewFan

    Glam is very much defined by the voice of the lead singer. A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    So, Adam is perfect for glam rock … or he’s made himself perfect for it because it inspired him. (Lucky to have had the potential as well as the desire.)

  • dhunken

    The lines between music genres are not as rigid as Radio stations would want us to believe. Each genre has elements and is influenced by the other.

    Now this makes total sense and also makes me feel better that I get confused sometime on what artist is what Genre. Bad Radio Stations… Very Bad

  • Janus

    No. I would count Led Zepplin as Euro Rock which evolved into Orchestral Rock.

    Ok, but I was thinking specifically (and only) of Kashmir. But maybe that doesn’t really fall under glam either. Anyway, many thanks for your detailed descriptions. It has been educational and I really appreciate your insights.

  • Cate

    The talk about Adam’s falsetto is driving me nuts! It is head voice, not falsetto for the most part. Masterclass Lady wrote a long piece on the difference and why Adam is so impressive in his head voice! He’s still singing with his diaphragm, but higher than normal. And I believe he is called a countertenor according to expert opinion. His ability to slide seemingly effortlessly between his chest voice and head voice is what makes his instrument so incredible. Hence his high rating at the DDD site and the kudos of masterclass lady (Roseanne Simunovic). Here are comments on TFM she links to:

    “It’s just a snippet and I basically still have no idea if the song is really good, but still I’m having CHILLS, baby. Adam’s voice just soars in the few seconds I can hear him! I can understand why Brian May had to go and blog about it after listening to the whole song. Can’t wait till the whole single is released!”

    She also wrote a very favorable article about Archie’s Christmas CD, which I’m sure his fans would enjoy very much.

    I’m just sayin’ from an Adam-fan perspective. ymmv, of course.

  • adamaloha

    The lines between music genres are not as rigid as Radio stations would want us to believe. Each genre has elements and is influenced by the other.

    Which is the promise of one Adam Lambert. His tastes run the gamut and his music will, I believe, be reflective of that. (nobody puts BB in a box… :))

  • NewFan

    weeeeeeeeeeeee.

    It’s The Learning Channel … MJ’s midnight learning channel.

    Sunn: you are being quite impressive … quite!

  • dhunken

    Cate
    October 11, 2009 at 3:18 am

    The talk about Adam’s falsetto is driving me nuts! It is head voice, not falsetto for the most part. Masterclass Lady wrote a long piece on the difference and why Adam is so impressive in his head voice! He’s still singing with his diaphragm, but higher than normal. And I believe he is called a countertenor according to expert opinion. His ability to slide seemingly effortlessly between his chest voice and head voice is what makes his instrument so incredible. Hence his high rating at the DDD site and the kudos of masterclass lady (Roseanne Simunovic).

    Cate you are correct. But Adam also uses his Falsetto. (not necessarily when people think he does) I think from what I read experts are impressed by how he can go from Chest voice to head voice but they are extremely impressed that he can Effortlessly go from Chest to head to Falsetto and back. Plus his breathing technique is inhuman.

  • adamaloha

    Cate
    October 11, 2009 at 3:18 am
    The talk about Adam’s falsetto is driving me nuts! It is head voice, not falsetto for the most part. Masterclass Lady wrote a long piece on the difference and why Adam is so impressive in his head voice! He’s still singing with his diaphragm, but higher than normal.

    Cate, I noticed that, too. But it’s a mistake a lot of people make so I guess I just let it go.
    He doesn’t falsetto in any part of the snippets I heard. Well, maybe the short snippet for a tiny bit, but I really ahve to go back and listen to that one again. Certainly no falsetto in the video version. except at the very end, where he may slip into it momentarily. I have to go back and check.

    He has a beautiful falsetto. The acoustic TOMT at Ford.. falsetto ending and so pure! Same with acoustic starlight.. the end note is gorgeous.. falsetto.. strong and pure.

    ETA Nope. no falsetto in the short snippet.

  • dhunken

    Well going to bed…Good night or good morning or Good afternoon.. May the Fierce be with you!! ;-)

  • NewFan

    Night dhunken
    Happy singing in the morrow …

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Good night dhunken, sweet dreams.

    Just to add one note. For those interested in new music, I highly recommend Placebo. They are Punk/glam at it’s very best. You’d really be hard pressed to find a drecky song.

    “The Bitter End” and “Every You Every Me” are personal faves.

  • hwc

    Glam Rock is a shortened version of Glamorous Rock and initially implied some degree of ambiguous sexuality. The roots of glam rock are very well defined:

    Lou Reed’s 1972 classic Walk on the Wild Side (produced by David Bowie)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FKts1JOaJc

    And Bowie’s 1972 album Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXq5VvYAI1Q

    Speaking of which. You know what would be swell? David Bowie and Adam Lambert doing a duet on Lou Reed’s Talk a Walk on the Wild Side. It would have to be at the Hollywood Bowl? What do you guys think?

    And a personal recommendation. The ultimate Lou Reed song is the Cowboy Junkie’s signature cover of Sweet Jane. Here’s their
    original music video, but the extended versions they do live now are absolutely incredible. Get their DVD Trinity Revisited and check out the version with Margo Timmons and Ryan Adams trading verses. Wow. I don’t know “interpreting a song” gets any better than that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHRFZFmEq9o

  • Squirrely

    Never knew the Reality channel had award shows…silly, but whatever.

  • Squirrely

    another nice review:

    http://www.filmgecko.com/video-of-adam-lambert-singing-time-for-miracles-for-the-movie-2012/

    yet another one:

    http://multiplythemeslayouts.com/movie/watch-2012-online-stream-2012-soundtrack-adam-lambert-time-for-miracles/

    I’m starting to find it funny that a snippet is getting so many reviews. Imagine the reviews when they get a whole song?

  • redbarns

    Cate,

    What’s the link for this quote?

    ‘It’s just a snippet and I basically still have no idea if the song is really good, but still I’m having CHILLS, baby. Adam’s voice just soars in the few seconds I can hear him! I can understand why Brian May had to go and blog about it after listening to the whole song. Can’t wait till the whole single is released!’ 

    Is that MasterclassLady? Sorry, I’m confused.

  • Squirrely

    And I have to say I’m super cranky right now, because I had a really busy day and couldn’t spend every minute in this thread. Not really happy that I missed half of the opening act tonight.

    That stinks MJ, I hope you enjoyed the rest.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com honowoowoo

    Here’s a tip on how I replay Adam’s 2012 snippet (over & over & over):
    Create a playlist and then add it a gazillion times … then it just plays & plays to your heart’s content. And yes, after having hit the replay button over and over … I finally figured it out. (just wanted to share! … back to lurking!)

  • isisdagmar

    A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    Interesting discussion. Was Bowie an exception then to what constitutes a glam rock singer?

  • dyg1

    Morning peeps,

    WoW! I have been reading the master class on rock I missed. Thanks a lot to all who contributed, and especially to Sunn. I love all varieties of rock, but had no idea about the details that differentiate them.

    Being an Adam fan on this blog has been educational for me in many different aspects (language, culture, music, and of course fantardness).

    As someone said: May the FIERCE be with you :-)

    ETA:Thanks for the tip on the play list!!!!!!

  • readon

    Good Morning!!!

    I’ve been reading all the educational post on Rock. Thank you all and especially, Sunn. This is what I love most about this place. I learn so much about music here. This place is at its best when we’re sharing.

  • KLI

    Thanks to all of u for posting through the nite on glam rock v classic rock v metal rock. Ive been asleep since I last poSted but woke up to this great discussion. Adam is helping me appreciate so many more genres of music than I did before I became a fan. I’ve seen so many other people post the same sentiment Adam expands our love for all music not just his.

  • Dallas

    Thanks all for the music discussion. I have learned so much from all of you guys the past few months.

  • LVanna

    What’s the link for this quote?

    ‘It’s just a snippet and I basically still have no idea if the song is really good, but still I’m having CHILLS, baby. Adam’s voice just soars in the few seconds I can hear him! I can understand why Brian May had to go and blog about it after listening to the whole song. Can’t wait till the whole single is released!’ 

    Cate: I read that also from Masterclass Lady but can’t find the link. All I know is that she really LUVS Adam! A couple of her twits:

    “@AdamLambertNews He is bigger and better than Idol. Make way for Adamania! Come on. It’s a new beginning! The show is over -for both of them 7:41 PM May 20th from web in reply to AdamLambertNews

    @AdamLambertNews The American Idol show might be over but the Adam Lambert show will continue for a very, very long time. 3:20 PM May 17th from web in reply to AdamLambertNews

    I am going to adopt Adam – he is such a gracious and generous young man 6:03 PM May 12th from web

    Oh Adam – how do I critique briliance? 6:03 PM Apr 28th from web

    An interesting one:

    @dizzyfeet Thanks for supporting Adam, Nigel! 10:04 AM May 21st from web in reply to dizzyfeet

  • KLI

    I am still trying to learn how to differentiate falsetto and head voice. I can’t always spot the difference even tho I have learned that if u think it’s falsetto it’s probably head voice. I have watched that great video of the vocal instructor demonstrating the difference. Anyone want to point out definite exampples where Adam uses falsetto?

  • saga

    Enjoyed the discussion on glamrock! Seems like I am a modern glam girl since I like both Placebo and Muse.

    I wonder how glamrock Adam will be though? I read his tweet but I just can’t see him working on track like the ones Placebo and Muse do, they are just not top40 enough. Maybe he can have glam tracks instead of fillers…

    And is he surrounded by people with enough musical chops to help him create that? Glam rock is usually played and produced by bands, the exception maybe being Bowie (but Bowie playes several instruments). And I don’t trust Cavallo to fix this after hearing Cooks album.

    Oh, and i definetely hear falsetto in the small snippet from Amazon. The thing with Adam is that he doesn’t have a clear break between his headvoice and falsetto, they are blended (meaning he can go from being in headvoice to falsetto without the jump being heard).

  • birchtree

    As usual I have been enjoying following the discussion here (and learning ALOT). Thanks to Sunn for the music info (it was through you I discovered Mika). I’m not a big fan of “cheese” (lactose intolerant perhaps?) but I can’t help but pause inside and relish (oh, goodness another food reference and totally unintentional!) Adam’s voice. It lifts the snippet (and me along with it) to another place, and is, for me, magical.

    Anyway, I can get the youtube of the music to my ipod but only want the music part. Not the talking. Does anyone know if that is out there anywhere?

    Thank you! :)

  • Dallas

    “readon
    October 11, 2009 at 8:32 am
    @readon
    Well, that article was kinda nasty and uncalled for IMO.”

    readon. I hope you didn’t think I was directing that post at you!! I may not have been very clear but I was commenting about the author of the article and her trying to stir up s**t again. So SORRY if you thought I meant you. omg!

    I just deleted that post since apparently I am dain-bramaged this morning and cannot clearly put my thoughts on paper as it were. Again, I was just referring to the nasty lady who wrote the article! lol

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    isisdagmar
    October 11, 2009 at 5:28 am
    A wide range is essential and a high register emphasis define the genre.

    No. Bowie is the original glam rocker, in many ways he defined the genre in people’s minds as the most popular artist of the time. His voice was strong and quite powerful. And although his range isn’t massive when comparing it to Freddie, T Rex or Adam it was always fully utilized in the service of glam.
    If you go back to listen to Space oddity or Life On Mars or Starman you’ll find that Bowie spans his full vocal range within each of those songs. In every one going from the lower to the outer limits of his higher register with the melody coming to fruition on the higher.

    Because glam songs are usually multiple register pieces, spanning the extremes of the vocal range within a few breaths, the wide range vocalists became favored within the genre. A strong powerful multi-octave voice became essential glam.

    ETA:

    Under Pressure worked so beautifully between Freddie and Bowie because it spanned Freddi’s upper and Bowie’s lower.

  • http://www.twitter.com/lambritta Blondie

    Sunn
    ‘The Bitter End’  and ‘Every You Every Me’  are personal faves.

    I love The Bitter End, also one of my faves. But Adam’s make-up is so much fiercer than Brian Molko’s. ;)

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    I love The Bitter End, also one of my faves. But Adam’s make-up is so much fiercer than Brian Molko’s.

    I know. But Brian is the original modern glam rocker in my book. He’ll always be my first crush.

  • Lynne

    Wow! What an interesting discussion. Thanks so much to all for your posts and for putting up the examples. I am learning new things and discovering new music from all of you. I really liked the Placebo song that Sunn put up, and the examples all help me understand glam rock better.

    And when you guys point out the places where Adam uses falsetto, it helps me begin to hear the difference between his falsetto and head voice and appreciate it all more.

    It’s alll about that prevailing beat and the voice that flows over it almost soaring over the beat.

    I love this description. The description sounds exactly like what Adam’s voice does for me. It soars over everything, and I soar with it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Valilac1 VAlilac

    brian_mansfield @suebrody1 I’m going to postpone judgment until I get to hear the whole thing. 29 seconds is hardly enough time to assess miracles.
    37 minutes ago from web

  • clearone

    I don’t think we will get ‘too much’  glam, though, as he wants to put out a variety of music on his first album!!

    I pray you’re right.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Valilac1 VAlilac

    from essellsari
    154 @adamlambert wallpapers, Time for Miracles -wp one of newest.. http://www.essell.mattijarv
    21 minutes ago from web

    http://www.essell.mattijarvenpaa.com/wallpapers.htm

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Valilac1 VAlilac

    from OhFerras

    @adamlambert cant wait for everyone to hear our song witch!
    about 9 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to adamlambert

  • readon

    At this time last year, we didn’t even know this guy. Now he is singing for a major movie soundtrack. I am continually amazed and amused. His voice transforms the movie scenes and after two days I just have to keep saying, WOW!!!!! Adam you are amazing.

  • Squirrely

    Glam Rock is a shortened version of Glamorous Rock and initially implied some degree of ambiguous sexuality. The roots of glam rock are very well defined:

    Lou Reed’s 1972 classic Walk on the Wild Side (produced by David Bowie)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FKts1JOaJc

    Thank goodness Adam is a better interviewer than Lou Reed ;p

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2pF5oMdP4&feature=related

    ETA: I guess I should say interviewee

  • readon

    Thank goodness Adam is a better interviewer than Lou Redd ;p

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2pF5oMdP4&feature=related

    The interview was awkward. Is this song really glam rock? The artist fits, but the music not so much.

  • sidewalkstory

    Thank goodness Adam is a better interviewer than Lou Reed ;p

    Lou Reed’s interview is so out of context here. Isn’t ‘t this a mid-70′s interview? The guy was followed around and harassed for drugs from the 60′s. The journalists wasted his time with asinine questions. It was a good interview as he purposely was stickin’ it to the journalists for their stupidity. hahaha.

  • Ladyguard

    I don’t care what anyone else thinks….I love power ballads and rock anthems.

  • Q3

    OhFerras @adamlambert cant wait for everyone to hear our song witch!
    about 10 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to adamlambert

    I think that Ferras reference to “everyone” means that at least Ferras thinks his song made the album. There were a couple of Ferras song written for Adam prior to the Aimee Mayo collaboration, so MAYBE that is what he is referring to and MAYBE those were part of the Cavallo sessions.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Valilac1 VAlilac

    from J_Lambs

    @Globerts Sony Music Japan began Adam’s promo! Adam-storm is coming to Japan at last! http://bit.ly/eIqZ2
    about 3 hours ago from web in reply to Globerts

  • sidewalkstory

    “I think that Ferras reference to ‘everyone’  means that at least Ferras thinks his song made the album. There were a couple of Ferras song written for Adam prior to the Aimee Mayo collaboration, so MAYBE that is what he is referring to and MAYBE those were part of the Cavallo sessions.”

    Didn’t Ferras and Alissan Porter do a song for Adam together?

    I remember them tweeting about a session but have no idea what came of it.

  • Q3

    Just to chime in out the Glam Rock discussion, most people now give credit to Marc Bolan for originating Glam Rock/Glitter Rock. He was influenced by Little Richard, Pink Flyod, The Stones (Jagger in particular) and others — his bad was T. Rex. And you may recall Adam said this in a recent interview about his album:

    ‘No negativity or whining, naming Seventies rockers T. Rex and electro-pop act Goldfrapp as big influences. ‘I want it to be positive. I’m not a big fan of emo-type lyrics.’ 

    Also, Adam’s favorite movie is “Velvet Goldmine”, the Glam Rock classic. So, JMO, bit I believe that when Adam uses the term “Glam Rock” referring to his album, I think he means the real thing.

    And there was nothing “romatic” about glam rock circa 1971-1974 (pre-disco) — it was a drug enfused (psychedelics, barbs, ludes, cocaine), counter-culture movement that pushed the boundaries of sexrole stereo-types and cultural norms. Sure there were a few Glam Pop acts like Gary Glitter and Alvin Stardust but they produced medeocre imitations of Glam Rock for radio. And some of the glam rock artists became “commerical” and less extreme — like Bowie after the advent of disco/club dance music in the mid-70′s. But real Glam Rock has stayed alive on the fringes of music (mostly in gay clubs and reviews, and in Asia’s theatrical rock) since then.

  • 4evrmomof4

    Did anyone see this from Jim Cantiello at Mtv regarding the equality March on Washington today:

    # Wait, I like the live version better. http://bit.ly/oAnK0 Equality for all.about 1 hour ago from web

    # For all my friends marching in Washington today. http://bit.ly/fKOioabout 1 hour ago from web

    He twittered out audio links to Adam’s live & studio versions of Change is Gonna Come AI performances!

  • 4evrmomof4

    Q3, I agree with you about TRex

    That was my first concert when I was 12/13 or so, with my dad

    My dad still has nightmares about Marc’s platform glitter boots,. Recently, i told my now 75 year old dad that those glitter boots have found a new home and he rolled his eyes & knew exactly who I was talking about!

    I decided to rent Velvet Goldmine a couple of weeks ago and if anyone has any doubt that Adam has a real understanding of & leans toward glam rock, then watch this, go to youtube and watch a few performance by Marc Bolan and Trex, then re-view Zodiac show Change is Gonna Come and Crawl Thru fire & you will have your answers, IMO

  • Q3

    The interview was awkward. Is this song really glam rock? The artist fits, but the music not so much.

    Yes, that is glam rock. Although I am not expecting Adam to do anything like Lou Reed. Here is a more typical early Glam Rock example from T. Rex and, since Adam specifically mentioned T. Rex, I think this is more what he has in mind as root music for his new music:

    T-Rex – Children of The Revolution

    T – Rex – Get It On

    T- REX / 20TH CENTURY BOY

    sidewalkstory: Didn’t Ferras and Alissan Porter do a song for Adam together? I remember them tweeting about a session but have no idea what came of it.

    YES! Thanks, it is early and I was too lazy to look it up. It was with Alissan Porter. I hope that their song makes the album since they are both so talented and pre-Idol friends of Adam.

  • clearone

    I don’t care what anyone else thinks’ ¦.I love power ballads and rock anthems.

    Me too! ….and I truly hope that there isn’t an overabundance of Glam Rock on Adam’s CD.

  • luvadamlambert

    WOW.this discussion seems gr8.I’m gonna b busyfrm 1-3 D: but should b here after that!!!:D

    brb catching up on this thread….:)

  • http://twitter.com/terra_zephead terraj

    from J_Lambs

    @Globerts Sony Music Japan began Adam’s promo! Adam-storm is coming to Japan at last! http://bit.ly/eIqZ2
    about 3 hours ago from web in reply to Globerts

    Urrrgh. Sony Japan you FAIL. You know Japanese like the anime look, so why did you use that promo picture when there’s so many better pics out there with the spiky hair?

  • 4evrmomof4

    Q3, thanks for posting the links

    Just had to go back and re-listen to Get It on- It is timeless and pop/dance influenced as well…

    Still love it decades later!! (wow, am I ever ancient!)

  • 4evrmomof4

    In case anyone is interested in sending fan mail or pic request-was posted on twitter a few ago:

    Adam lambert, c/o 19 Entertainment, 8560 Sunset Blvd #900, West Hollywood CA 90069, but u get a pic of Adam/signed

  • http://www.f3properties.com Animated

    Quite an interesting discussion on Glam Rock .
    Having spent a lot of time in Asia , I thought Glam rockers picked up the idea of the androgynous, over the top expression of feelings – love, anger, lust , pathos – from Japanese Kabuki theater where men played roles of women – avant -garde music and full of swagger , . Remember Madam Butterfly ? And the Jingju (Beijing Opera) with its elaborate costumes and the elaborate styles of painted faces. These all happened long before Glam rockers of Europe, rocked the stage.
    And vocal prowess is very much of emphasis because it is considered an elite accomplishment to sing acappella before the Emperor during the older eras.
    Just the voice, the costume and the elaborately painted face .

  • saga

    I kinda wish Adam would start a band :grin:

  • Bowie1

    Wow! It took me forever to finish this thread. Thanks for all the discussions on the different types of music genres.

    Sunn

    Under Pressure worked so beautifully between Freddie and Bowie because it spanned Freddi’s upper and Bowie’s lower.

    I agree. I was talking about this the other day in the car with my son while listening to the song. He was picking out the differences in their voices after I introduced him to the song. I was surprised when I read you using it as an example!

    I have to say…I, also, love ROCK BALLADS and I love TFM (the little we got of it!) and I’m SURE I’ll love the whole song.

    Adam said there will be some GLAM ROCK in the CD?! Great….just another side of the many different kinds of music we have to look forward to in his CD!!

  • robininny

    4evrmomof4 October 11, 2009 at 11:25 am
    …rent[ed] Velvet Goldmine…and if anyone has any doubt that Adam has a real understanding of & leans toward glam rock, then watch this, go to youtube and watch a few performance by Marc Bolan and Trex, then re-view Zodiac show Change is Gonna Come and Crawl Thru fire & you will have your answers, IMO

    Totally agree. You don’t even have to watch all of VG, although it is worth it. In the first 15 minutes of the movie, Adam’s OTT costuming in “A Change is Gonna Come” = VG’s Brian Slade (played to perfection by Jonathan Rhys Meyers. ) Also check out Ewan McGregor as Curt Wild and his OTT on stage performance. Then look at Adam’s RS shoot.

  • Susan M.

    Wow, what an illuminating discussion on music theory ‘“ learned tons! Thanks Professor Sunn and others. I love this influence for Adam ‘“  passion, power, performance, androgyny, theatrics and it can be updated to a 21st century sound. I truly think Adam has a clear idea of what he wants to do and his writers and producers are on board with it.

    So excited! I can’t wait to see where this goes!!

    And LULZ to those ’70s dancers in the first T-Rex clip.

    Also very cool of Jim C. to tween ACIGC to those at the Equality March. The live version without the visual is breathtaking! I’ve listened to the studio version countless times and am always in awe, but the liver version has a whole different edge.

  • Cate

    redbarns, I got that quote from a link on Masterclasslady dot com, but I can’t confirm that she wrote it herself. It’s one of the Adam Lambert links. All through the season, she critiqued the performances (very gently and respectfully) and always gave a lot of praise to Adam’s technique and vocal ability. I wish I had saved her blog about head voice/falsetto. It was fascinating.

  • http://www.f3properties.com Animated

    Even if Time for Miracles is not the lead Single for Adam’s debut album it’s giving him a lot of Media mileage. AOL Video alone has more than
    400,000 hits. I wonder if there is such a thing as Twin Leads so we get two singles .
    I promised I will patiently wait. Not doing such a good job with the waiting .

    http://video.aol.com/video-search/query/2012

  • Q3

    saga: I kinda wish Adam would start a band

    He needs a band to tour — and he certainly is going to tour. I want a band and Adam Lambert dancers. It Madonna can have her own dancers, then Adam can have his own dancers, too.

    Animated: Quite an interesting discussion on Glam Rock .
    Having spent a lot of time in Asia , I thought Glam rockers picked up the idea of the androgynous, over the top expression of feelings ‘“ love, anger, lust , pathos

    I think that there are similarities and some elements were picked up from Asian theatrical music — Bowie famously wore a short kimona for a song on tour in 1973 — but Glam artists picked up influences from all over the place — The Tubes looked to Louis XIV’s France and ESPN. One of the proto-Glam Rockers was Little Richard — he was the first to “glam up rock” — he had the eyeliner, hair, Satin capes (adopted by Freddy Mercury later) and glitter in the late 1950′s. Here are a couple of samples:

    Richard Lucille 1972

    Little Richard Lucille Live 1969

    And Mark Bolan specifically credited Little Richard as a key influence.

  • LVanna

    Masterclass Lady wrote a long piece on the difference and why Adam is so impressive in his head voice!

    Cate: I know the article you are talking about but can’t find the link. Following is another nice article she wrote that I also saved w/o the link (darn me!):

    “Of course there are valid reasons to dislike Adam. But as far as vocal technique goes he is as good as it gets. The way he can mix chest and head voice to create a seamless blend from one to the other, the way his entire range is ‘connected’ , not to mention his massive lung power and incredible breathing skills. His breathing is only audible when he chooses it to be, to enhance the performance. His high notes are shrill because high notes by definition are shrill. He is one of the few male singers in the world who can produce these notes without exclusively relying on head voice, which makes them relatively ‘full’  and strong.

    I get it if you don’t like his tone of voice, his persona or the way he performs. Maybe you don’t like high notes in general. But the combination of singing skill and talent that he possesses is very, very rare and the best we’ve seen on this show so far.”

  • dhunken

    “Baby you know that, maybe it’s time for miracles, coz I ain’t giving up on us. You know that, maybe it’s time for miracles’ ¦’ …..Oh good day all..(just can’t get this song (snippet) out of my head) I keep singing the the lyrics (the ones I know) over and over and over again. I don’t know about the rest you but for me (for you) every since the leak of this song I have been in a such a great great mood. ( not that I am a ogre or a meanie all the time) Things do not bother me as much as before. Even reading OTT post that go beyond the normal appreciated and respected negative critique of Adam, just make me laugh. I just start singing the words and “it ain’t that deep” anymore. Thank you Adam Thank you!! Anyone else experiencing anything similar. Hope everyone is having a Fierce Day! What’s new?

  • dhunken

    Hey to all those interested here is the link to the Masterclass lady and all her articles on Adam.

    http://masterclasslady.com/?s=Adam+Lambert

    On the bottom left of the page is a link to older Entries where you can find the critique you are looking for and her assessment throughout the whole season

  • Susan M.

    Thanks for that Master Class Lady quote LVanna!! It really puts it in perspective.

    Thank you Adam Thank you!! Anyone else experiencing anything similar. Hope everyone is having a Fierce Day! What’s new?

    Now we have to be on full music video watch, dhunken! C’mon leak!!

    So funny, went to sister’s house for dinner last night and she was watching a History channel show about 2012 and Nostradamus, which was freaky and interesting to say the least, but like most of these things, bring the salt shaker.

    She said, “You’ve heard about that movie coming out, right?” I just looked at her and shook my head. She doesn’t watch AI at all and has made a minimal attempt to get my Adam obsession. “Uh,,,yeah ‘“ I think I’ve heard something about it.” LOL

  • dhunken

    She said, ‘You’ve heard about that movie coming out, right?’  I just looked at her and shook my head. She doesn’t watch AI at all and has made a minimal attempt to get my Adam obsession. ‘Uh,,,yeah ‘“ I think I’ve heard something about it.‘  LOL

    :-)

  • LVanna

    Susan M.
    October 11, 2009 at 1:40 pm
    Thanks for that Master Class Lady quote LVanna!! It really puts it in perspective.

    Welcome Susan. If you click on the following link provided by dhunken, MasterClass Lady has much more praise for Adam. I enjoy reading her critiques because she is an unbiased, expert vocal/technique coach and not just a reviewer giving their own personal opinion.

    http://masterclasslady.com/?s=Adam+Lambert

  • dhunken

    Now we have to be on full music video watch, dhunken! C’mon leak!!

    Oh I’m on it Susan M. I have been scouring the internet constantly. Hopefully something will happen!!!!

  • Bowie1

    Q3

    One of the proto-Glam Rockers was Little Richard-he was the first to “glam up rock”-he had the eyeliner, hair, Satin capes adopted by Freddy Mercury later and glitter in the late 1950′s.

    Yeah….I saw Little Richard live in around 1967. He came out on stage strutting that Satin cape! And, boy, could he sing and play that piano!!!! He could really put on a performance. The crowd loved him.

    And I know Adam is going to ‘set the stage on fire’ when he does his solo tour. I want to see…a band, back up singers and dancers, and I want to hear….lots and lots of Adam music!!

  • Cate

    One of the proto-Glam Rockers was Little Richard ‘” he was the first to ‘glam up rock’  ‘” he had the eyeliner, hair, Satin capes (adopted by Freddy Mercury later) and glitter in the late 1950′s.

    I was 12-ish when this came out and just loved it. I remember when rock and roll was devil music and happy to live thru the next few years when music really rocked and rolled. Looking forward to Adam’s contribution to the genre.

  • Q3

    Susan M.: If it is true that this was recorded for ‘Off the Wall,’  ironic that Adam’s first audition song was, ‘Rock With You.’ 

    That’s odd — when Adam said that he auditioned with “Rock with Me”, I remember being surprised because both of his audition songs were recorded before he was born — but he seemed to really have a contemporary vibe.

    It also reminded me that Adam album releases on the anniversary of Freddy Mercury death. Still strikes me as odd and not entirely a coincidence.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    TOPIC

    Please don’t use this thread as a personal chat thread. The discussion of other artists is off topic unless it had a direct relationship to Adam Lambert.

    And there’s already a discussion going on about Michael Jackson in the headlines thread. That’s where it belongs. Thank you.

  • Cate

    Sorry. Thought we were staying on topic by drawing analogies to success of past artists to Adam’s potential and the likelihood that the “leak” of MJ’s song may have been prompted by the leak of TFM. I’ve read your rules, but I sure get confused sometimes! :)

  • luvadamlambert

    I still agave to catch up on the thread but I was wondering o saw earlie in the thread(forget what page) someone posted a download link to tfm(the aol one).I’ll try to find it but of someone has it can you please re-post it?thanks

  • luvadamlambert

    In case anyone is interested in sending fan mail or pic request-was posted on twitter a few ago:

    Adam lambert, c/o 19 Entertainment, 8560 Sunset Blvd #900, West Hollywood CA 90069, but u get a pic of Adam/signed

    sigh.I WISH I could….

    it would make my life

  • dhunken
  • CindyM

    Awww..he tweets:

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?
    2 minutes ago from web

  • luvadamlambert

    Squirrely
    October 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm
    I feel like Luvie ‘“ someone summarize the thread for me ‘ ¦j/k ‘“ I’m going back to read it.

    lol

  • Susan M.

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?
    2 minutes ago from web

    Aw, I miss his old pretty picture. The new one’s thematic though.

    LOL, he just has to recreate his NoBo cover and there ya go …

  • luvadamlambert

    thanks dhunken:D

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?
    2 minutes ago from web

    ROTFLMFAO

    sighz.I love him.

    weeeelll i was going to go as this pirate girl thing BUT I don’t *think* it’s too late too change my mind and be a glampire…..

  • readon

    Aw, I miss his old pretty picture. The new one’s thematic though.

    LOL, he just has to recreate his NoBo cover and there ya go ‘ ¦

    I was thinking the same thing.

    ETA: No more drag. You were gorgeous, but you got music to sell.

  • luvadamlambert

    I like his new pic…;)

    ANOTHER TWAT !!!! the world rrly must be ending

    adamlambert I cant get @KrisAllen4Real and @Allison4Realzzz singles out of my head! …such a good thing! I miss my Idol family! 7 minutes ago

  • Q3

    I am amazed that RCA/19R have been able to keep a lid on Adam’s single and on the specific album cuts. All we know is:

    Genre: noveau-glam pop rock (per Adam in 10/1/09 Rolling Stone album preview)

    And we only have fragments of info on 5 or 6 tracks — in other words not much info:

    1. “Strut” – co-written by Kara Dioguardio and Adam Lambert; produced by ? is on the album
    2. TDC – written by Andreas Johnasson and ? maybe Max Martin; produced by Max Martin is on the album
    3. Something produced by Rob Cavallo is on the album – he produced 6 tracks with Adam
    4. Something written by Ferras Alquaisi is on the album – maybe produced by Rob Cavallo
    5. Ryan Tedder said he did 4 songs for the album and 2 were in contention to be the first single (Bill Lamb interview). So it’s seems likely that Ryan has at least 2 tracks on the album.
    6. RedOne, Linda Perry, Greg Well and others have done tracks for the album but haven’t said anything about the status of those tracks.

    My bet is that any Glam Rock songs that make the album will not be the first single. I’m with MJ on this — I expect a “an upbeat dance tune, tailor-made to chart on Top 40 radio”. That sounds like RedOne or Ryan Tedder/Dr. Luke to me, not Rob Cavallo. And I hope it is not the Max Martin track because I fear that will sound like everything else on the radio.

  • luvadamlambert

    I fear that will sound like everything else on the radio.

    he HAS to build a bigger fanbase and lots of ppl listen to top 40…

  • Q3

    Q3: I fear that will sound like everything else on the radio.

    luvadamlambert: he HAS to build a bigger fanbase and lots of ppl listen to top 40′ ¦

    I expect it to be made for Top 40 — just hoping it is “Adamized”.

  • Cate

    luv, sometimes you sound so much older! Good point.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Sorry. Thought we were staying on topic by drawing analogies to success of past artists to Adam’s potential and the likelihood that the ‘leak’  of MJ’s song may have been prompted by the leak of TFM.

    Most of the music discussion was fine. Adam tweeted about glam rock, some posters didn’t know what that was, others explained it. I wanted to make sure the music discussion stayed connected to Adam.

    Michael Jackson is 100% off-topic in this thread. The OP posted the info in TWO places. She should have just kept it to the Headlines.

    I’d bet my left arm that the Michael Jackson peeps could give two figs about Adam Lambert. They are in the middle of promoting a documentary on the last days of Michael Jackson. The entire song will premiere tonight on the MJ website. A bit of the song happened to leak a few hours earlier.

    My OT explanation is only to illustrate the MJ stuff has no connection to Adam Lambert whatsoever.

  • LindaG23

    Have spent the morning enjoying this thread and all the music referenced. It makes me understand more fully the many directions Adam’s Cd may go. I was watching the Under Pressure video with Queen and David Bowie and especially enjoyed the visuals of all the structures exploding/imploding; it made me think of the TfM short video with, yes, all the structures exploding/imploding!

  • anthrogeek

    SusanM: I’ve listened to the studio version countless times and am always in awe, but the liver version has a whole different edge.

    SusanM, just curious to know why you prefer the “liver” version – as in chopped? heh. Just messin’ with ya.

    Q3: I am amazed that RCA/19R have been able to keep a lid on Adam’s single and on the specific album cuts. All we know is:

    It will be really interesting, for once, to see how the credits in the final CD compare to what we think we know about the content as we’ve watched the process unfold over the summer.

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    MJ-sorry I posted in 2 places. I don’t post much and wasn’t sure where to put it. It won’t happen again.

  • anthrogeek

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?
    2 minutes ago from web

    As long as we get to see pics of the costume, I’m all for it. Based on past getups we’ve seen, his creative genius will give us something we mere mortals could not have envisioned even thru a kaleidoscope while under the influence of psychotropic drugs.

  • Q3

    anthrogeek: It will be really interesting, for once, to see how the credits in the final CD compare to what we think we know about the content as we’ve watched the process unfold over the summer.

    And I am expecting that some of the quieter ones, like RedOne, may have a lot more to do with this album than a few self-promoters. For example, I bet that Kevin Ruldolf doesn’t make the album with his “futuristic-rock, disco-ish” song. (Note: I am not a Kevin Ruldolf fan — so I admit to a bias against him for something not related to Adam. But I am opposed to anyone who uses Adam’s name and “futuristic disco” in the same sentence.)

  • dhunken

    As long as we get to see pics of the costume, I’m all for it. Based on past getup’s we’ve seen, his creative genius will give us something we mere mortals could not have envisioned even thru a kaleidoscope while under the influence of psychotropic drugs.

    LOL and true!

  • anthrogeek

    Q3: And I am expecting that some of the quieter ones, like RedOne, may have a lot more to do with this album than a few self-promoters.

    Yes, I agree! I also think that this Strut song was recorded very early in the process and was produced during the RedOne sessions. Credit to RedOne for anywhere from 4-6 tracks was bandied about for those sessions, I believe. It certainly sounds like Adam’s had no shortage of material to choose from, all told.

  • BestAI

    Does anyone have a guess when we can expect to hear the entire TfM single? Do you think the video will be out soon too?

  • bridgette12

    I am glad Adam is thinking about Kris and Allison’s single, but truthfully all I can think about is his single.

  • BestAI

    SusanM: I’ve listened to the studio version countless times and am always in awe, but the liver version has a whole different edge.

    SusanM, just curious to know why you prefer the ‘liver’  version ‘“ as in chopped? heh. Just messin’ with ya.

    Uh,,, just lost my appetite.

  • dhunken

    BestAI
    October 11, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Does anyone have a guess when we can expect to hear the entire TfM single? Do you think the video will be out soon too?

    If I had my way we would all be listening to it at this very moment. ;-) “Is Anybody Listenin”!!!!!!

  • anthrogeek

    BestAI: Uh,,, just lost my appetite.

    Uh,,,to me that’s a good thing, as a day with no appetite helps counter all the extra munching induced by the anxiety over waiting for a single!

  • Q3

    BestAI: Does anyone have a guess when we can expect to hear the entire TfM single? Do you think the video will be out soon too?

    My guess is that the whole song will be out in a few days and that they will put it out as an online music video — with reduced quality sound so they don’t kill the market for downloads of the song and music videos. Just like what we have so far is low quality sound.

    I pick Wednesday 11/14/09 but certainly by Friday 11/16/09. (I sure hope it’s Wednesday.)

    Either way, looks like the Adam album promotion will kick off on Tuesday 10/13/09 with the AMA nominations event.

    ETA: I meant to write 10/14/09 and 10/16/09!!! Eeeeeeeeeeek!

  • JazzRocks

    I am glad Adam is thinking about Kris and Allison’s single, but truthfully all I can think about is his single.

    Me too. But this shows what an unselfish person he is. He seems to be on the way to a huge explosion on the music scene and instead of talking about himself he talks about his Idol friends. I love him for that.

    Now if only they would return the favor (not that he needs it – it would just be nice).

  • koshka

    Q3 are you running a pool? I vote for Wed too.

    I gotta question for our music experts. Happily, Adam is getting a marketing free ride with 2012. Yeah. I’m wondering what is usually paid by the label for promotion outside of obvious marketing efforts, such as iTunes banners and print/tv advertising.

    1) for sake of discussion, people mention that label pays for spins on stations such z100 & KISS. I didn’t realize this normally occurs (if it is true)
    2) Appearances at non televised events. I’m assuming that the artist is not paid.
    3) I can’t think of anything else right now. Grrrrr

    What else might a label pay for in a big way?

  • adamaloha

    Q3
    October 11, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    BestAI: Does anyone have a guess when we can expect to hear the entire TfM single? Do you think the video will be out soon too?

    My guess is that the whole song will be out in a few days and that they will put it out as an online music video ‘” with reduced quality sound so they don’t kill the market for downloads of the song and music videos. Just like what we have so far is low quality sound.

    I want you to be right…. please be right…

  • Cate

    Q3: I pick Wednesday 11/14/09 but certainly by Friday 11/16/09. (I sure hope it’s Wednesday.)

    I believe you meant 10/14 and 10/16, respectively. Don’t scare everyone! :)

  • dhunken

    Cate
    October 11, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Q3: I pick Wednesday 11/14/09 but certainly by Friday 11/16/09. (I sure hope it’s Wednesday.)

    I believe you meant 10/14 and 10/16, respectively. Don’t scare everyone! :)

    (slowly starts coming to, shakes head, gets up off the floor) Oh thank God Cate you clarified. The last think I remember reading was 11/14…then everything went black……..Q3 Halloween is at the end of the month….no more scares until then please… ;-)

  • Tess

    koshka
    October 11, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    It is an “old wives tale” that recording companies pay for radio spins. This is illegal and the FTC monitors it like a hawk. In fact I believe the radio station has to pay a royalty to the record company when they spin a current song…

    Now the record company may make the artist available for either phone or in studio interviews or even meet and greets and small gigs that are usually rewarded as prizes to listeners.

    TV talk shows pay the artist a minimum union performance fee. I believe it is about $900. If the Artist will be singing I would suspect the cost of the band and back-up Singers would come out of the record companies/ performers pocket not the tv shows.

    Performance gigs are usually sponsored and a promotional company handles the expenses. Acts are contracted and a performance fee is paid based on what the singer’s rate is. Idol performance fees range from a $1000 upwards. The more of a draw you are the more you can command.

    Online sites like AOL music and Wal-Mart are probably paid by the advertisers. Again the performer is paid.

    Print ads, radio ads (not promos), banners, streaming songs are part of advertising.

  • dcglam

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?

    OMG — This is so incredibly adorable! LOL

  • Susan M.

    Thanks for the information, Tess, that’s great to know. And Cate, thanks for clearing the October/November situation up ‘“  I was in panic mode since we know Q3 knows her stuff.

    I am hoping for a full mv link any time. “2012″ is eking and leaking information by dribs and drabs. The viral campaign and the overt campaign are coming together a little at a time and will converge with an explosion ‘“  my prediction.

    That will tide us over for the single. (squee!)

  • yinyang

    I’m guessing that they’ll give a few days to let the dust settle from the release of MJ’s song, (which will be heard tonight, and I would expect it to get a lot of attention), and then release TFM. So, Wednesday sounds about right. Then we’ll hopefully have the single from the album in another week or 2.

  • Q3

    Q3: I pick Wednesday 11/14/09 but certainly by Friday 11/16/09. (I sure hope it’s Wednesday.)

    Cate: I believe you meant 10/14 and 10/16, respectively. Don’t scare everyone!

    Oh, I guess I just want the album so badly I want it to be 11/11 today! Yes, that should be 10/14 and 10/16.

    koshka: I gotta question for our music experts. Happily, Adam is getting a marketing free ride with 2012. Yeah. I’m wondering what is usually paid by the label for promotion outside of obvious marketing efforts, such as iTunes banners and print/tv advertising.

    Think about the label as a lending institution — the provide the upfront money and pay royalties, but everything they can think of gets substricted from the record revenues before the artist gets their share of any profits. People often say the artist pays for everything, but I think it is a better to think about a record like a big project, and everything gets charged to “the project”. If there is any money left over, then people (including the artist) get a share of the profits.

    1) for sake of discussion, people mention that label pays for spins on stations such z100 & KISS. I didn’t realize this normally occurs (if it is true)

    It is illegal to pay radio stations for airplay in the US, the labels sponsor promotions with prizes paid for by the label, make artists available for promotional events that the stations charge for and keep the revenue, and do other things that indirectly benefit the stations. A lot is in a grey area. But in the end, it comes out of the record revenues.

    2) Appearances at non televised events. I’m assuming that the artist is not paid.

    It depends on the event. Opening acts almost never get paid, and have to pay their own expenses (in other words, it costs them money to appear.) Many artists make a lot of their money from private events.

    If you headline a concert, you get paid and/or get a share of the profits. Really smart artist-business people, like Madonna and The Stones, make a lot of money on their tours.

    What else might a label pay for in a big way?

    If you are with a major label, they usually front the money for a music video, PR, support staff, etc.

    With a major label involved there are a lot of hands in the pot, that’s why a few big acts and lot of less famous artist produce independent records. Pearl Jam has an independent record on the Top 10, for example.

  • Q3

    Susan M.: Thanks for the information, Tess, that’s great to know. And Cate, thanks for clearing the October/November situation up ‘“ I was in panic mode since we know Q3 knows her stuff.

    Gult, guilt, wave of gult. I am usually careful but I am working almost 24/7 lately and have been popping in here for a bit of fun now and then. I just wasn’t very careful with that one!!

    ETA: I can’t believe the low price on Amazon MJ’s 2-disc “This Is It” Album — List Price: $17.98 Amazon Price: $9.99. on the pre-order!! Even Walmart has it at List Price: $18.98 Our Price: $16.88. Wonder if someone at Amazon screwed up?

  • http://twitter.com/terra_zephead terraj

    I thought you guys might be interested in checking out my Time for Miracles view statistics analysis. Keep in mind that I wrote this at 6AM in the morning so brain might be still half awake ;)
    http://terraj.livejournal.com/2062.html

  • Q3

    yinyang: I’m guessing that they’ll give a few days to let the dust settle from the release of MJ’s song, (which will be heard tonight, and I would expect it to get a lot of attention), and then release TFM. So, Wednesday sounds about right. Then we’ll hopefully have the single from the album in another week or 2.

    Makes sense to me. Even without considering MJ, Wednesday sounds about right for TfM. And they might until around 10/23 until they release a sample of the album single.

    I really wish it was November!! 44 days is a long time to wait for this album. (Source of count Luv — thanks!)

  • Q3

    terraj: I thought you guys might be interested in checking out my Time for Miracles view statistics analysis. Keep in mind that I wrote this at 6AM in the morning so brain might be still half awake
    http://terraj.livejournal.com/2062.html

    Cool analysis — and I think your analysis of the viewership — Idol fans = mature women; 2012 fans = younger men — makes complete sense.

    It also shows how great the 2012 film opportunity is for Adam. Because most 2012 fans are not Idol viewers. I am an avid SciFi alt future fan and have been following 2012 for over 2 years, and most of the 2012 fans didn’t have a clue who Adam even was when the poster was released. And there is a big, well-developed 2012 community online — many gamers, a few FlashForward fans, but not AI viewers.

  • http://twitter.com/terra_zephead terraj

    @Q3 What I forgot to point out in my post is that overall visitors to my YT channel, which is Adam-centric, is only 14% male. So 30% is a pretty darn good proportion in comparison.

  • readon

    I thought you guys might be interested in checking out my Time for Miracles view statistics analysis. Keep in mind that I wrote this at 6AM in the morning so brain might be still half awake
    http://terraj.livejournal.com/2062.html

    This is absolutely awesome. Thank you. I have to read again so that I can better assimilate the data. I am such a geek.

  • http://twitter.com/terra_zephead terraj

    NYMichael has an interesting update (see link for full writeup):

    From what I’m hearing, RCA is planning a hot dance track that will chart on Top 40 radio as Adam’s first single which will make it complementary with the 2012 track which is more in the Adult Contemporary category. Covering as many areas as possible is vital during the holidays since there is so much competition. I’ve heard he’s booked for Saturday Night Live, and recommend watching some of the Lady Gaga press track for clues on strategy (will he fight Madonna too? ;).

  • schoolmama

    Clear Channel and American Idol have always had a working relationship. This is from season 7.

    Thier largest Stations Z100 New York-Kiss (Ryan Seacrest) LA
    From thier website.

    The two finalists of American Idol’s seventh season, David Cook and David Archuleta, are giving fans the first opportunity to listen to their complete debut albums on Clear Channel Radio’s Sneak Peek program.American Idol’s seventh season winner, David Cook, lets audiences get the first taste of his 12-track debut self-titled album, which features his top twenty single, ‘Light On,’  and possible next single, ‘Declaration.’  His Sneak Peek is being offered on-demand on over 190 Clear Channel Radio web sites before its November 18th release date.

    Last year’s 17 year old runner-up David Archuleta will also debut his self-titled album via Sneak Peek. The preview includes his single, ‘Crush,’  which debuted at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Archuleta’s Sneak Peek can also be heard first on over 190 Clear Channel Radio web sites, days before the album’s November 11th launch date.David Archuleta’s Sneak Peek is available now, with David Cook’s going live on November 13th.

  • Cate

    I am usually careful but I am working almost 24/7 lately and have been popping in here for a bit of fun now and then. I just wasn’t very careful with that one!!

    Q3, I KNOW how knowledgeable and careful you are, so I made a point of checking the November calendar page before posting to make sure there was no Wednesday, 11/14!

  • koshka

    Tess and Q3
    Thanks for answering my questions. They’ve been burning in my mind for a while. Interesting how the money just sort of moves in and out of various hands. Sort of a shell game, but if played right everyone gets a piece.

    schoolmama NICE tidbit!

  • BestAI

    terraj
    NYMichael has an interesting update (see link for full writeup):

    I’ve heard he’s booked for Saturday Night Live, and recommend watching some of the Lady Gaga press track for clues on strategy (will he fight Madonna too?.

    Terraj, thanks for posting. NYM hasn’t posted in quite some time, so it was nice to get all this great news. So all our talk about how Adam would be great on SNL, might be coming to fruition. Of course, Kris is probably booked for SNL too, but I hope not at the same time as Adam.

    Here is more from NYMichael which makes me super excited:

    “One of the most exciting parts of this journey is that Adam is such a unique and versatile artist that in addition to the primary focus of his debut CD, opportunities in television, film and other media are already on the radar and I’d expect to hear more about those around release time.”

    BTW, terraj, you are absolutely gorgeous.

  • sidewalkstory

    Of course, Kris is probably booked for SNL too, but I hope not at the same time as Adam.

    My guess is that if they are both booked, it would be together. Do you remember how awkward Kris was for the Magic Show Ford commercial? It is unlikely that Kris could carry a skit alone.

  • alaadam

    Of course, Kris is probably booked for SNL too, but I hope not at the same time as Adam.

    Wouldn’t the guy have mentioned Kris too if this were the case? I’m not saying it couldn’t happen but I do know that when SNL twittered who peeps wanted on teh show, they were bombarded with tweets about Adam – I didn’t see any for Kris. Saw some for GAGA, Brittney, and Madonna but it was still ADAM 9 to 1.

  • Mary102

    adamlambert My favorite holiday is coming! I think i shall rock Halloween as a GLAMPIRE. What are you going to dress up as?

    OMG ‘” This is so incredibly adorable! LOL

    Hope he gets pictures! I need to see him in his Halloween costume this year :-)

    Love the tweets about Kris and Allison’s singles – so cool that he supports them so much…aww, how can you love him even more!

    And I go for the TfM full version coming out this week, online, as someone suggested, hopefully with the mv too. (please please!)

    Wow – epic week of idol coming up:

    Kris song officially goes to adds.
    Adam AMA announcing gig on Tuesday
    Possible full version of TFM
    Any word on Allison single download?

  • readon

    Of course, Kris is probably booked for SNL too, but I hope not at the same time as Adam.

    My guess is that if they are both booked, it would be together. Do you remember how awkward Kris was for the Magic Show Ford commercial? It is unlikely that Kris could carry a skit alone.

    I also hoped they don’t get booked at the same time. Adam is not Kris’ security blanket. Does SNL usually have two musical artists with different styles of performance?

  • Mary102

    I’ve heard he’s booked for Saturday Night Live,

    OMG – PLEASE let this be true (ack – too hard only being able to catch up in bits and pieces during this epic weekend of Adam-y goodness! Stupid RL butting in :-( )

  • http://www.f3properties.com Animated

    Well they released TFM teaser via Moviefone/ AOL.
    So they will probably do other major platforms to release the full Music Video for TFM.
    Adam Lambert Time for Miracles AOL.com

    And for his album’s lead single – most likely it will be massive iTunes promotions in coordination with probably MTV and other platforms that are strong for younger demographics. Is there a radio network that has the numbers for the tweens and 30 below market demographics. They probably will hit those first . All speculation .
    The only certainty is that all of these singles releases , will happen before Halloween ! So I hope its a treat and not a trick !

  • sidewalkstory

    OK, let’s assume he’s booked for SNL. What date do you think? It wouldn’t be the Sat bef Thanksgiving if he is going to be at the AMA’s in LA on Sun evening. He will be in NYC on Tues bef Thanksgiv. for GMA. Would he get the Sat after Thanksgiving?

    I can’t see it happening before his record drops. So when? Dec? Jan?

  • alaadam

    will he fight Madonna too?.

    Or SuBo??

  • luvadamlambert

    Q3: I pick Wednesday 11/14/09 but certainly by Friday 11/16/09. (I sure hope it’s Wednesday.)

    i pick yesterday:D

  • Tess

    Since Adam is no longer promoting AI or it’s tour I don’t see where he will be teamed up with any former idols during the PR push over the coming months. Any gigs he gets will be earned by him to further his career.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there might be some tie-ins with the stars of 2012 and Adam being the musical guest during the first few weeks of November. After that I think it will be Adam’s promo for his own tour.

  • anthrogeek

    readon: I also hoped they don’t get booked at the same time. Adam is not Kris’ security blanket.

    Holla!

  • alaadam

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there might be some tie-ins with the stars of 2012 and Adam being the musical guest during the first few weeks of November. After that I think it will be Adam’s promo for his own tour.

    Totally agree!!!!

  • happycat14

    ITA why would Kris have to be booked for SNL just because Adam was, or vice versa? I could see some kind of label mate substitution, like Allison for Kris on Conan, but otherwise, they’re doing their own thangs. (I don’t need to see any future Kradam things. And I hope Adam doesn’t win that Fox Reality Award because that’s really awkward, but it seems they tape it the night of the AMA announcements? Would he be there, or stay the hell away?)

    If 2012 is being released Nov. 13, I’d guess around then if John Cusack was the host (trivia: Joan Cusak used to be a SNL cast member). I don’t have my Mayan calendar in front of me, but whatever week would coincide nicely with Adam’s NY promo leading up, but I’m sure if it wasn’t, he’d still catch the red-eye to do the SNL gig. If it does happen, and I’m treating it as a rumor, yeah, I’d love for Adam to show up in skit, but if he just sings, I’m not complaining. He’d sing TFM and his single I bet.

  • readon

    I’d love for Adam to show up in skit, but if he just sings, I’m not complaining. He’d sing TFM and his single I bet.

    If Adam ever performs on SNL, there will be a comdey skit. SNL writers couldn’t help themselves. There is just too much material to pass up. Adam has a sense of humour and he would gladly participate. I can see a Glambert parody coming up.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Adam and Kris on SNL together is unlikely. AI is over, the winner-runner up dynamic doesn’t apply when real money and careers are on the line. They each have their own way, and fight for each spot of promotion. Kradam is no more.

  • luvadamlambert

    Kradam is no more.

    …and all the kradamites exploded

  • readon

    and all the kradamites exploded

    giggle.

  • adamaloha

    Of course, Kris is probably booked for SNL too, but I hope not at the same time as Adam.

    bestAI, do you have a reason to believe this? Have I missed something?

  • ShariG

    Wise decision on Adam and his production company’s part. The song is really just kind of blah. I don’t think it does justice to his voice and focuses too much on the screaming. I’m looking forward to something better.

  • Gigi3

    Well if SNL is taking a vote, put me down for a big YES. I approve!

  • ShariG

    By the way, Kris doesn’t need a security blanket. He is doing quite well on his own and I am sure will continue to do quite well. Both have great futures ahead of them with the right kind of backing which I hope they both receive. They both deserve it.

  • BeckyMD

    So far all speculations or rumors about Adam are on the positive side. So even if 10% of them turn out to be true, I will be in heaven. :D

  • sidewalkstory

    I don’t think it does justice to his voice and focuses too much on the screaming.

    I didn’t hear any screaming. You must have listened to a diff track than I did.

    By the way, Kris doesn’t need a security blanket.

    As far as acting he does. He could never pull off a skit w/o Adam.

  • clearone

    Now if only they would return the favor (not that he needs it ‘“ it would just be nice).

    Perhaps when he actually has a single out they will. He hasn’t released anything yet!

    As far as acting he does. He could never pull off a skit w/o Adam.

    I think I’ll wait to see a skit before I decide if Kris can pull it off or not.

    ….and who the heck is NYMichael???

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    ShariG
    October 11, 2009 at 10:28 pm
    By the way, Kris doesn’t need a security blanket. He is doing quite well on his own and I am sure will continue to do quite well. Both have great futures ahead of them with the right kind of backing which I hope they both receive

    I suppose that depends on one’s definition of “quite well”. Personally I would place Kris in the “Doing ok” column with respect to the single’s sales. For “quite well” the single would have to be in the top 30 at ITunes.

  • spring2009

    The song is really just kind of blah. I don’t think it does justice to his voice and focuses too much on the screaming.

    It is really quite alright if you do not enjoy Adam’s singing. It would be a really boring world if all music was the same. It might sound like screaming to you, but they are notes (many professionals have weighed in on this).

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Well, neither Kris nor Adam would have to worry about pulling off a skit. If either were to be booked on the show (and that’s a big IF) they’d be on as musical guests.

  • CindyM

    As far as acting he does. He could never pull off a skit w/o Adam.

    I think I’ll wait to see a skit before I decide if Kris can pull it off or not.

    Google VH-1′s Best Week Ever.. Look for YAY CAPES!

  • sidewalkstory

    Google VH-1′s Best Week Ever.. Look for YAY CAPES!

    saw that way back when and those two words do not change my opinion.

  • anthrogeek

    Zsus
    October 11, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    Well, neither Kris nor Adam would have to worry about pulling off a skit. If either were to be booked on the show (and that’s a big IF) they’d be on as musical guests.

    Yes, Adam would be primarily a musical guest, but many of those have also performed in skits over the years, just not as many skits as the hosts. Lady GaGa was in several when she was on the week before last. Besides, he’s such a natural and would be the first one to poke fun at himself!

    It’s also not unheard of for one person to be both musical guest and host, but maybe they’ll save that one for next year when he’s HUGE.

  • dhunken

    Oh gee for a sec I thought I was on that site which had the article Adam v. Kris.! Anyway Time For Miracles is a great song that I think showcases Adam’s voice Beautiful and his voice does justice to the song. (and the fact that I have played it constantly since Friday, I think makes me a good judge) (and it’s only a snippet) :-)

  • anthrogeek

    I agree, dhunken, and it mystifies me that people who obviously don’t like his voice continue to keep “giving him a chance”. To do what, I wonder, keep dumbing it down from vocal virtuosity to genericism? No, thanks, I’ll keep him exactly the way he is – a one-man master class!

  • twinkle

    here yall… have some pretty!

    http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/reliqe/?action=view&current=264ko3t.jpg

    supposedly adam uploaded this as his new twitter profile pic and then deleted it right away (but not quick enough for his legion of CIA agents fans)

    his makeup looks like it did when he took that picture with the girl that was supposedly working on his album art, so maybe album cover? single cover? whatever it’s for… it sure is mesmerizing!

  • dhunken

    anthrogeek
    October 11, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    I agree, dhunken, and it mystifies me that people who obviously don’t like his voice continue to keep ‘giving him a chance’ . To do what, I wonder, keep dumbing it down from vocal virtuosity to genericism? No, thanks, I’ll keep him exactly the way he is ‘“ a one-man master class!

    Did I ever tell you, you’re my hero!!!

  • dhunken

    supposedly adam uploaded this as his new twitter profile pic and then deleted it right away (but not quick enough for his legion of CIA agents fans)

    his makeup looks like it did when he took that picture with the girl that was supposedly working on his album art, so maybe album cover? single cover? whatever it’s for’ ¦ it sure is mesmerizing!

    Yes that looks very much like a cover for a single?

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.
    13 minutes ago from Tweetie

  • CindyM

    dhunken
    October 11, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    supposedly adam uploaded this as his new twitter profile pic and then deleted it right away (but not quick enough for his legion of CIA agents fans)

    his makeup looks like it did when he took that picture with the girl that was supposedly working on his album art, so maybe album cover? single cover? whatever it’s for’ ¦ it sure is mesmerizing!

    Yes that looks very much like a cover for a single?

    I don’t know, I can imagine it’s an outtake from the photo shoot, but I can’t see adam’s cover shot being a striped t-shirt and a hot pink background. The boy likes fashion too much for that.

  • schoolmama

    In the album, is the pirate Adam or am I just tired and should go to bed now?

    here yall’ ¦ have some pretty!

    http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/reliqe/?action=view&current=264ko3t.jpg

  • Janus

    In the album, is the pirate Adam or am I just tired and should go to bed now?

    It’s Adam’s face photoshopped into a Johnny Depp pic.

  • dhunken

    Kanadie Bonttell
    October 11, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.
    13 minutes ago from Tweetie

    I don’t know about the rest of you but isn’t getting really boring all these professionals working with Adam going on and on about how amazing he is, how mind blowing his vocals is, how great it is to work with him…(Just kidding Just Kidding)…They are beginning to sound like me. (Smart people) ;-)

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Yes, Adam would be primarily a musical guest, but many of those have also performed in skits over the years, just not as many skits as the hosts.

    That’s true, Anthro! I was just pointing out that it wouldn’t be a concern, really, if a musical guest didn’t have any acting skills. BTW, the only Idols to ever appear on SNL were Clay (2003), Kelly (2005 and 2009), Carrie (2007, 2008), and Cook (2008.)

  • adamaloha

    dhunken
    October 11, 2009 at 11:37 pm
    Kanadie Bonttell
    October 11, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.
    13 minutes ago from Tweetie

    I don’t know about the rest of you but isn’t getting really boring all these professionals working with Adam going on and on about how amazing he is, how mind blowing his vocals is, how great it is to work with him’ ¦(Just kidding Just Kidding)’ ¦They are beginning to sound like me. (Smart people)

    Yes, so tedious. :)

    Greg Wells has such excellent taste…

  • schoolmama

    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL

  • adamaloha

    schoolmama
    October 11, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL

    And your point is….?

  • CindyM

    schoolmama
    October 11, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL

    You know what’s really cool though?? This year their first two musical guests were U2 and Lady Gaga!!! What an improvement they’re obviously making in 2009/2010 season!!

  • CindyM

    schoolmama
    October 11, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL

    Oh by the way?? Please provide links to verify your information. According to what I found, there were parodies done of those American Idol contestants on Saturday Night Live. They were never performers on the show. I’m sure you have the links at your fingertips, shouldn’t take long at all :)

    Jimmy Fallon played William Hung
    Andy Samburg played Sanjaya
    Jason Sudeikis played Taylor

    Google can be your friend.

  • adamaloha

    CindyM
    October 11, 2009 at 11:48 pm
    schoolmama
    October 11, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL

    You know what’s really cool though?? This year their first two musical guests were U2 and Lady Gaga!!! What an improvement they’re obviously making in 2009/2010 season!!

    Adam’s in very fine company…. and aren’t we expecting that TFM video very, very soon?

  • greeneyedlady

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.
    13 minutes ago from Tweetie

    I don’t know about the rest of you but isn’t getting really boring all these professionals working with Adam going on and on about how amazing he is, how mind blowing his vocals is, how great it is to work with him’ ¦(Just kidding Just Kidding)’ ¦They are beginning to sound like me. (Smart people)

    Yes, so tedious.

    Yup, I’m weary of it too. You know what would make me perk up? A f***ing SINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    On another note, it sounds like Adam was working today, too. And I was hoping that he was having a nice relaxing day off after working all week. And even working, he took time to pimp his friends’ singles. I’m exhausted just thinking about his life right now. But I have a feeling he’s having a blast, too :)

    CindyM- Heehee!

  • adamaloha

    On another note, it sounds like Adam was working today, too. And I was hoping that he was having a nice relaxing day off after working all week. And even working, he took time to pimp his friends’ singles. I’m exhausted just thinking about his life right now. But I have a feeling he’s having a blast, too

    These are heady times for adam. I’m sure he’s savoring every moment. When he’s not fall down exhausted, that is.

  • adamaloha

    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/adam-lamberts-2012-song-gooseb-31806.aspx

    I’m hopelessly behind on this thread. I hope this hasn’t been posted.

    And CindyM.. great research!!

  • Janus

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.

    You know, Adam should really be more considerate of the people he’s working with. If he keeps blowing everyone’s minds, there won’t be anyone left in the music industry to help him with his second album. Oh, and memo to Adam, give the mic a little rest while you’re in the studio. Save the mind-blowing mic action for your tour. Thx.

  • soverymel

    adamaloha
    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/adam-lamberts-2012-song-gooseb-31806.aspx

    I’m surprised he was so complimentary about Time for Miracles, he really did not seem to care for Adam at all during the season.

  • readon

    adamaloha
    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/adam-lamberts-2012-song-gooseb-31806.aspx

    I’m surprised he was so complimentary about Time for Miracles, he really did not seem to care for Adam at all during the season.

    One conversion at a time.

  • sidewalkstory

    I’m surprised he was so complimentary about Time for Miracles, he really did not seem to care for Adam at all during the season.

    I think some of these reporters come around because they are afraid to be left out in the dust when Adam makes it big time.

  • cher

    HWC, Robininny, thanks for answering the question on Time for Miracles songwriters. Beautiful song. It’s funny that you guys got a kick out of my name. lol Glad I had great timing. I’m just another lurker, an OTT fan of Adam Lambert.
    Just told my son to make sure I get tickets for the November 13th movie date. Good thing he’s a Lambert fan too. Didn’t roll his eyes too much. :)
    Can’t wait for the song release!!!! Sounds even better the more you listen to it. Love you all.

  • iluvai

    Wow. Great thread. Wait, I think I said that last night. lol

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    adamaloha
    October 12, 2009 at 12:04 am
    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/adam-lamberts-2012-song-gooseb-31806.aspx

    I’m hopelessly behind on this thread. I hope this hasn’t been posted.

    I love this review so much. coming form an admitted non-fan ( he says it in this review) his compliment made by skin tingle with joy.

    Thank you Adamaloha.

  • dhunken

    Janus
    October 12, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Greg Wells:Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.

    You know, Adam should really be more considerate of the people he’s working with. If he keeps blowing everyone’s minds, there won’t be anyone left in the music industry to help him with his second album. Oh, and memo to Adam, give the mic a little rest while you’re in the studio. Save the mind-blowing mic action for your tour. Thx.

    :mrgreen:

  • schoolmama

    And your point is’ ¦.?

    Point being my post went before finished, notice no period after SNL
    could not edit, Sorry a couple got so upset. Been with idol since season one and I respect each and ever one that has ever appeared on Idol.

    Honestly would it have been so terrible if they did appear on SNL ?

    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL portrayed as parodies.

  • dhunken

    iluvai
    October 12, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Wow. Great thread. Wait, I think I said that last night. lol

    You are aloud to repeat yourself. I do, watch…

    ….Adam is amazing….Adam is Amazing….Adam is Amazing……Love Time for Miracle…..Love Time for Miracles….Love Time for Miracle…..

    Feel free to join in a repeat! ;-)

  • dhunken

    Cher-I’m just another lurker, an OTT fan of Adam Lambert.

    Hi Cher!… so you Believe! ;-)

  • readon

    Adam is amazing’ ¦.Adam is Amazing’ ¦.Adam is Amazing’ ¦’ ¦Love Time for Miracle’ ¦..Love Time for Miracles’ ¦.Love Time for Miracle’ ¦..

    Feel free to join in a repeat!

    Amazing… Amazing… Love time for Miracles…. Did I mentioned that Adam is amazing

    Your enthusiasm is infectious. I was supposed to be going to bed over an hour ago.

  • dhunken

    Your enthusiasm is infectious. I was supposed to be going to bed over an hour ago.

    Me too!… but Time for Miracles (on repeat all weekend) and the wonderful fellow poster on here (like yourself) who are just as enthusiastic as I am keep me energized.

  • CindyM

    schoolmama
    October 12, 2009 at 12:55 am
    And your point is’ ¦.?

    Point being my post went before finished, notice no period after SNL
    could not edit, Sorry a couple got so upset. Been with idol since season one and I respect each and ever one that has ever appeared on Idol.

    Honestly would it have been so terrible if they did appear on SNL ?

    Taylor Hicks, Sanjaya Malakar(sp) and LOL William Hung appeared on SNL portrayed as parodies.

    No worries, I wasn’t upset. Sorry you didn’t get to finish, but it’s okay, I supplied the rest of the information. :)

  • readon

    Me too but Time for Miracle (on repeat all weekend)

    I have the video on my IPOD and I just watch and watch. I need the full song.

    Is the full song really going to be over 4 minutes?

  • dhunken

    Is the full song really going to be over 4 minutes?

    Ok I hope your sitting down or at least around soft objects….It is going to be…. 4:43 of pure fierceness

  • HotHotHot

    dhunken
    October 12, 2009 at 1:17 am
    Is the full song really going to be over 4 minutes?

    Ok I hope your sitting down or at least around soft objects’ ¦.It is’ ¦. 4:43

    I’m sure that some of that is instrumental. But, we can put it on repeat, too.

  • iluvai

    Regarding the SNL comments: So I thought I would die when Jon Hamm was on SNL. The man is sexy as hell but how could he be funny??? But he was!!!! Adam would be an awesome guest. I would love to see the whole Adam/Kris spoof though. It would be adorable. But I think Adam would be wonderful by himself too. Adam on SNL!!! yes!!!

  • iluvai

    Thanks dhunken for your comment. I can’t copy/paste again for some reason.

    But yeah, I get the repeat re: Adam. He is amazing for sure. :)
    Cheers!

  • readon

    Is the full song really going to be over 4 minutes?

    Ok I hope your sitting down or at least around soft objects’ ¦.It is going to be’ ¦. 4:43 of pure fierceness

    My first thougt is that seems really long for radio play. I checked my IPOD playlist and found these.

    BEP I got a feeling 4:49
    Fergie Big Girls don’t cry 5:06
    Keith Urban You’ll think of me 4:54
    John Mayer Your body is a wonderland 4:16
    Rihanna Umbrella 4:36

    So I guess it’s long, but not exceptionally long.

  • dhunken

    My first thougt is that seems really long for radio play. I checked my IPOD playlist and found these.

    BEP I got a feeling 4:49
    Fergie Big Girls don’t cry 5:06
    Keith Urban You’ll think of me 4:54
    John Mayer Your body is a wonderland 4:16
    Rihanna Umbrella 4:36

    You know thanks for posting this because this is what I found out about each of these songs:

    BEP I got a feeling 4:49-went to #1
    Fergie Big Girls don’t cry 5:06-went to #1
    Keith Urban You’ll think of me 4:54-#1 country #24 hot 100
    John Mayer Your body is a wonderland 4:16-#18
    Rihanna Umbrella 4:36-went to #1

    And no I am not saying Adam is in any of these artist league at this juncture…I am saying that a 4:43 song (Time for Miracles) can do very well on the Charts.

  • readon

    And no I am not saying Adam is in any of these artist league at this juncture’ ¦I am saying that a 4:43 song (Time for Miracles) can do very well on the Charts.

    I hope TFM and the new single blows up the charts. Don’t blast me. I am an Adam fan and I’m allowed to be crazy. I’m living in the moment. I’ll deal with reality later.

  • cher

    Hey Dhunken, I do Believe. Adam is amazing, Adam is fantastic, Adam is fabulous. Need I continue? lol
    Here’s a site with several articles about Time for MIracles

    http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=d87nxcmXkkWr2xM

    Luv, no school tomorrow, huh? :)

  • readon

    Why hasn’t Amazon included the cover art for TFM? I’ve seen it in so many places.

  • dhunken

    Here’s a site with several articles about Time for MIracles

    http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=d87nxcmXkkWr2xM

    Thanks Cher!!! ( I giggle every time I type your name) Downside...I will be up for another hour now… ;-)

  • dhunken

    I hope TFM and the new single blows up the charts. Don’t blast me. I am an Adam fan and I’m allowed to be crazy. I’m living in the moment. I’ll deal with reality later.

    Blast you? Readon I want to hug you!

  • iluvai

    dhunken
    October 12, 2009 at 1:52 am
    Here’s a site with several articles about Time for MIracles

    http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=d87nxcmXkkWr2xM

    Thanks Cher!!! ( I giggle every time I type your name)Downside…I will be up for another hour now’ ¦

    Thanks!

  • dhunken

    News flash! Adam’s TBA album is moving back up on Amazon’s Best seller list went from 10 to 7. He has been in the top 10 now for 15 days (7 at #1) Nothing more I need to add….Except I love the Time for Miracles snippet!!!!

  • readon

    News flash! Adam’s TBA album is moving back up on Amazon’s Best seller list went from 10 to 7. He has been in the top 10 now for 15 days (7 at #1) Nothing more I need to add.

    It seems the 2012 clips are starting to work in his favor. May the fierce be with him. PLANET FIERCE must be exuberant. World domination is eminent.

  • dhunken

    It seems the 2012 clips are starting to work in his favor. May the fierce be with him. PLANET FIERCE must be exuberant. World domination is eminent.

    Like the way you think! ;-)

  • Winks8

    Was curious about TfM being a bit long too, so I checked out the following:

    I don’t want to miss a thing = 4.58
    My heart will go on = 4.39
    I will always love you = 4.31

    Looks like he’s in the ballpark :-)

  • readon

    Was curious about TfM being a bit long too, so I checked out the following:

    I don’t want to miss a thing = 4.58
    My heart will go on = 4.39
    I will always love you = 4.31

    Looks like he’s in the ballpark

    Let’s hope he hits it out of the ballpark. I’m talking about a homerun. Or in soccer terminology “SCOREEEEEEEE”.

  • Winks8

    Let’s hope he hits out of the ballpark. I’m talking abot a homerun. Or in soccer terminology ‘SCOREEEEEEEE’ .

    The bases are definitely lodaded… just waiting for team Adam Bomb to make their play/s!

  • readon

    The bases are definitely lodaded’ ¦ just waiting for team Adam Bomb to make their play/s!

    Adam Lambert is at the plate. The catcher signals the pitcher with the throw. Pitcher nods no. Catcher signals another pitch. Pitcher nods yes. He is going to throw the fast ball. Pitcher composes himself and readies for the pitch. There is a twinkle in Lambert eyes. He knows the fast pitch is coming. He’s ready. He zones in. Pitcher winds up and the pitch flies. Lambert steadies. He follows the ball. It’s the bottom of the ninth. There are two outs and Lambert has 3 balls and two strikes. They need the win to continue. It’s time for a miracle. Lambert swings and connects. It’s going, going, going. It’s out of the park. It’s a home run. He’s bringing them all home. Yeah, Team Lambert.

    I guess I should really go to bed now.

  • Winks8

    Looking again at the tweets from that gal who was tweeting last week about seeing the video shoot for TfM. After hearing a bit of the song, it sounds to me like she was on the right track, at least about the “he kept singing maybe im… maybe im… ”

    Her tweets:

    Laurasun
    just in my opinion his voice sounds like it. but fine i take that back.. im searching the song right now cus he kept singing ..

    “maybe im…. maybe im … ” or something

    it was mos def more rockish than popish.. it might be just me, but i think it sounds a tad bit countryish too! haha

    I can also see how the verse might have sounded a bit country to her.

    Interesting.

  • Sherena

    I guess I should really go to bed now.

    I loved your post readon.. The products of a sleepy mind are usually very interesting…not always in a good way…but in your case definitely in a good way!

  • dhunken

    Adam Lambert is at the plate. The catcher signals the pitcher with the throw. Pitcher nods no. Catcher signals another pitch. Pitcher nods yes. He is going to throw the fast ball. Pitcher composes himself and readies for the pitch. There is a twinkle in Lambert eyes. He knows the fast pitch is coming. He’s ready. He zones in. Pitcher winds up and the pitch flies. Lambert steadies. He follows the ball. It’s the bottom of the ninth. There are two outs and Lambert has 3 balls and two strikes. They need the win to continue. It’s time for a miracle. Lambert swings and connects. It’s going, going, going. It’s out of the park. It’s a home run. He’s bringing them all home. Yeah, Team Lambert.

    This was cute…but…to be realistic..(because Adam and sports….”not so much”)…Now if you could develope a story that has Adam come up with a way to convince the people at RCA that when he appears on SNL he finally gets to perform a number that includes the fiery headdress idea that the Zodiac people wouldn’t allow him to use…Well, then you got a convincingly tangible possible analogy that works. :-)

  • readon

    Now if you could develope a story that has Adam come up with a way to convince the people at RCA that when he appears on SNL he finally gets to perform a number that includes the fiery headdress idea that the Zodiac people wouldn’t allow him to do’ ¦Well, then you got a convincingly tangible possible analogy that works.

    Sorry. Adam, hair products, and a flaming headdress just doesn’t mix. We’ll just have to watch him throw another tantrum. A subtle tantrum.

  • Winks8

    Adam Lambert is at the plate. The catcher signals the pitcher with the throw. Pitcher nods no. Catcher signals another pitch. Pitcher nods yes. He is going to throw the fast ball. Pitcher composes himself and readies for the pitch. There is a twinkle in Lambert eyes. He knows the fast pitch is coming. He’s ready. He zones in. Pitcher winds up and the pitch flies. Lambert steadies. He follows the ball. It’s the bottom of the ninth. There are two outs and Lambert has 3 balls and two strikes. They need the win to continue. It’s time for a miracle. Lambert swings and connects. It’s going, going, going. It’s out of the park. It’s a home run. He’s bringing them all home. Yeah, Team Lambert.

    I guess I should really go to bed now.

    You have me laughing readon! Bedtime for me too.

    Before I sign off though, we can’t forget who sang the National Anthem at tonight’s game. (Sooo beautiful. I never get tired of this.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hj2F5xvGYE

    Nite. :-)

  • Winks8

    This was cute’ ¦but’ ¦to be realistic..(because Adam and sports’ ¦.’ not so much’ )’ ¦Now if you could develope a story that has Adam come up with a way to convince the people at RCA that when he appears on SNL he finally gets to perform a number that includes the fiery headdress idea that the Zodiac people wouldn’t allow him to use’ ¦Well, then you got a convincingly tangible possible analogy that works.

    Wut! You don’t think Adam looked like a natural in his baseball jersey and cowboy boots when the Idols threw out the pitch at that game? :-)

  • readon

    Before I sign off though, we can’t forget who sang the National Anthem at tonight’s game. (Sooo beautiful. I never get tired of this.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hj2F5xvGYE

    Nite.

    Nite Winks8.

    Thanks for the National Anthem.

  • Esqt

    game over? DANG….i was late! …and later be deleted.

  • adamland

    Went to see Adam’s friend and the designer of his amazing JACKET, Cassidy Haley, at a midnight gig at the Viper Room with girlygirl and dietcoke and another Adam fan from IDF. He is hawt and gorgeous up close. Really nice sweet guy. He was great, mixed it up with acoustic and dance songs.

    Cheeks was there, talked for a little while with him, he was rocking a fedora and stubble. He’s sweet and friendly. Boi can dance!

  • LVanna

    Sherena
    October 12, 2009 at 2:51 am
    I guess I should really go to bed now.

    I loved your post readon..

    ^THIS^………even if sports and Adam don’t mix, lol. I always enjoy reading your clever comments……….wakes us up!

  • readon

    Cheeks was there, talked for a little while with him, he was rocking a fedora and stubble. He’s sweet and friendly. Boi can dance!

    Any Adam sightings?

  • Dallas

    dhunken

    And no I am not saying Adam is in any of these artist league at this juncture’ ¦I am saying that a 4:43 song (Time for Miracles) can do very well on the Charts.

    He may not be in their league as far as being established, but he sings better. (yes, he does :-))

    readon

    I hope TFM and the new single blows up the charts. Don’t blast me. I am an Adam fan and I’m allowed to be crazy. I’m living in the moment. I’ll deal with reality later.

    For a hint at how well he will do, check out Amazon for an album entitled TBD …. LOL. readon, I’m with you. He will blow up the charts.

    PS: readon, did you ever go to bed? lol

  • readon

    PS: readon, did you ever go to bed? lol

    I did. I just don’t sleep very long. I always wake up after 4 hours. I am working from home today as I wait for tow truck to pick up my dysfucntional vehicle. So I am up answering email and badgering the people that work for me.

    Back on topic, the good thing is I get to be on MJs while I work from home. I can’t access from work.

  • sidewalkstory

    readon
    October 12, 2009 at 12:16 am

    One conversion at a time.

    Was this a joke?

  • readon

    Was this a joke?

    I’m not sure. Was it funny? I’ll have to go back and check the thread for context.

  • dcglam

    Kind of funny article about Adam and Drake……..
    TIME FOR MIRACLES is mentioned, so I hope I’m staying on topic. ;)

  • dcglam

    Okay — link didn’t take. I’m probably not doing it correctly…… :(

  • sidewalkstory

    Adam and Drake had a little tiff:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-adam-lambert-and-boyfriend-out-and-fighting-hollywood

    I heard rumor of this yesterday on twitter but I just thought it was idle gossip.

  • dcglam

    Thanks for the link, sidewalkstory — still trying to figure out what I did wrong……… Any thoughts??

  • dhunken

    Good morning everyone…So is Time for Miracles the number 1 snippet in America yet. :-) Last night (or really 4 am this morning) (Right with you readon only I got 4hours 43 minutes Sleep, anyone notice the time reference) I Kept dreaming about Adam and Time for Miracles. I dreamed that Time for Miracles complete video was released and it was Fiercetastic. . It became number 1 and was being constantly played on the Radio. Now the really interesting thing was I woke up a few times (bathroom, turning over) and then would go back to sleep and continue to dream the same thing. I have a feeling that I was having a prophecy of my own. :mrgreen:

  • sidewalkstory

    Thanks for the link, sidewalkstory ‘” still trying to figure out what I did wrong’ ¦’ ¦’ ¦ Any thoughts??

    dcglam, if you are having a hard time with the link button, just copy and paste the url without using it.

  • dhunken

    Moved to headline thread

  • sidewalkstory

    moved to other thread

  • dhunken

    Moved to headline thread

  • sidewalkstory

    moved to other thread

  • dcglam

    Thanks for your help, sidewalkstory…….
    I did use the “link” button. I copied and pasted all the info in the little URL box, then clicked OK. It seemed to all be there, but then it disappeared when I logged out. There is probably something I am missing somewhere, but your advice should work. Thanks again!! :)

  • Mary102

    Well, neither Kris nor Adam would have to worry about pulling off a skit. If either were to be booked on the show (and that’s a big IF) they’d be on as musical guests.

    Yes, but like Gaga a few weeks ago, the musical guests sometimes appear in skits too (at least one, briefly). And I still go for, if Adam is on as a musical guest, there is a GOLD MINE of AI parody skits to do (not just Adam skits, but ones focusing on Paula, Ellen, Kara, Simon) – surprised SNL hasn’t done one yet (or at least not one that I’ve seen).