Adam Lambert Rolling Stone Cover! Sex! Drugs! and Idol!

Mercy! swooooooon..

ugh

Holy gawd, MJ. I’m on my way out the door to an appointment, and you do THIS to me?

OMG – I love it! Couldn’t be better. Sexiest thing ever. Gorgeous Man!

FLOVE THIS!!! ADAM WE LOVE YOU

The sound of bodies falling across the continents….

That is the definition of hot. Breathtakingly hot.

Can you imagine the other pictures they took inside???? He is smoking hot!!

Dear Adam,

I give you the same advice I give to Clay. Shut up and just sing already.

t2

That article is the biggest piece of non-news I have ever seen. Pffft.

Cool picture though.

That cover should come with a warning…and I don’t mean that in a good way. LOL It ranks down there with Constantine’s pit pic.

HOLY HELL!!! This boy is going to kill me, I tell you. Guh…

You guys have to look at the video of his photo shoot.. its amazing.

Sweet mother of all that is holy…oh Adam.

that is freakin HOT. What a lovely image to wake up to after 6 miserable hours of sleep!

You guys have to look at the video of his photo shoot.. its amazing.

Link?

The snake and the butterfly both heading right to his penis. It’s not subtle, eh?

It’s insane how exciting this is. I for one assumed he was since Hollywood week. I really don’t think he has hid or “stayed in the closet.” He had answered to a post about how deals with all the prodding into his private life and says that it’s easy because he has everything in the open!

And when they mentioned how candid Adam would be… I didn’t expect this type of honesty from him though. All the nitty gritty an obsessed fan would want to know about his life. When did his parents realize, he was attracted to Kris, interesting interesting. But now good – over and we know and hopefully the media will stop badgering him about it. I’m looking forward with him to his new album.

Cue the Kradamites. This is a quote from the article:

But exactly what is his type? When Idol producers put him in a room to share with Allen, Lambert says his first thought was, “They put me with the cute guy. Distracting! He’s the one guy I found attractive in the whole group on the show: nice, nonchalant, pretty and totally my type à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  except that he has a wife. I mean he’s open-minded and liberal, but he’s definitely 100% straight.”

ick

I was just about to go to bed..please….He looks fantastic…
unique28v Can you please provide the link…
All hopes of sleep are dashed..wow, I am so happy that this finally here..

the video is awesome! it is such a juxtaposition of him talking (and being his usual calm, humble self) while showing him going through the shoot in pure rock star fierceness. i CANNOT wait to see the rest of the pictures. they looked amazing!

they could have probably done without the snake/butterfly…..

Beautiful shots in the video – some of the best photos of Adam that I’ve seen.

I can’t wait to read the whole interview. I’m glad Adam chose Rolling Stone, so he could say what he wanted to say. I have to admit the quote about Kris left me giggling:

“I was like, ‘Oh, s–t, they put me with the cute guy.’ Distracting!”

Yeah. Sorry, Sarver. He’s just not that into you. :smiley2_tb:

And now I have to go… but here is some more facts from Popeater:

http://www.popeater.com/music/article/adam…-hes-gay/520000

The video is on their Rolling Stones webpage

No ick HERE, bubbles. He never hid who he was (c’mon people, Upright Cabaret and Zodiac Show videos?!). He just wanted to focus on his music. Now he gets the “gay” issue out of the way and he moves on to making music.

I cannot wait to see him on tour, get his first album, go to the Adam Lambert Experience. First up: get his RS issue.

HOT HOT HOT

Love the cover! Very hot! I can’t wait for the issue to come out!

Link?

Click on the link MJ provides where she writes More HERE!

Dear Adam,

I give you the same advice I give to Clay. Shut up and just sing already.

Sounds like a plan to me. There is such a thing as ‘too much information’

I agree about the snake and the butterfly. So not necessary.

Mj, if it is possible, can you post the video on the blog so that people don’t have to search for it in the RS article? If this is possible thanks in advance.

DaYUM…

That video… Whoa… Glad he’s not afraid of snakes. LOL The filming with the snake around the neck? Skeery.

Rolling Stone did a remarkable job choosing the cover layout (pun! )

Thanks for posting MJ. Good luck to all fans everywhere — on obtaining a copy and on getting a single productive thing done these next few days!

I kinda like the snake and the butterfly. Nice green with the green title, nice imagery (coming out, and, well, that other thing).

I did notice, much later, that Daughtry got a nod on the cover.

Adam (paraphrase): “I’m gonna glue rhinestones all over my eyelids, BITCH!”

Heh. Too much love for the flaming Glambert comet.

So does the issue hit stands on Friday?

This is not fair…………38 second video, and now this?

The Glambulge is rockin’ this cover!

Way too much love for Adam, I must chime in and say I think it’s disgusting…guy with makeup, the snake. The whole thing. Just ewwwwwww. AND, I don’t like hearing him sing. Just ain’t my thang…

“I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as I’m concerned, it’s all hot. Just because I’m not sticking it in there doesn’t mean that I don’t find it beautiful,” Lambert (graphically) tells Rolling Stone.”

:shock_tb:

im not easily shocked and i dont really care about the drug talk or him divulging all this information. im sure he feels like the more he can get out of the way now, the better. when it comes down to it, i would rather him be honest.

but that quote… made my jaw drop for a sec…

“I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as I’m concerned, it’s all hot. Just because I’m not sticking it in there doesn’t mean that I don’t find it beautiful,” Lambert (graphically) tells Rolling Stone.

bahaha oh I love him. This is fantastic!

See, I like the snake & the butterfly. Only Adam can make those work…like Ring of Fire. Normally, I don’t care care to see a man with a green snake crawling up his leg or a strategically placed butterfly, but on Adam, they both seem right.

Aside from his vocal talent, his other great gift is his ability to do things & say things that no one else could get away with, & people love him for it.

Adam’s music and the type of album he wants to release is talked about in the video, even if the quotes leaked hasn’t mentioned it yet. Apparently the RS site says Adam talks about his AI experiences so I’m sure the actual article will mention music since AI was about music. lol

twinkle, where did you read that…about him ‘not sticking it there.’ I read the link MJ provided but that quote was not included.

i think someone upthread posted it, but the link wasnt working… it’s from popeater

http://www.popeater.com/music/article/adam-lambert-admits-hes-gay/520000

BTW, those are the jeans he wore for “Whole Lotta Love”, which I find appropriate. I remember reading that the people who did them do clothes for rock musicians.

On the last thread with the press release information, there are some interesting comments about the RS article which some people might have missed and want to read. I like the fact that Adam is hones and upfront about who he is — it’s really refreshing to have someone (especially from Idol) be himself with no apologies for his life or experiences.

I’m going to be camping out at the news stand waiting for this….

OMG, in that video…the shot of him in the white shirt with the suspenders and the mussed up hair. Sweet baby Jesus.

Now that is a RS cover! Yowser! Lovely Adam!

As for all the other, ooooo I am shocked….not. heh

Looks like an epic RS issue. my temperature is still above normal. The quotes are fascinating and so candid. Luv it.

I’m glad my flight will only an hour long. I don’t think I can tear myself away for much longer.

On sharing a room with Kris Allen, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“They put me with the cute guy. Distracting! Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one guy I found attractive in the whole group on the show: nice, nonchalant, pretty and totally my type à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  except that he has a wife. I mean heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s open-minded and liberal, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s definitely 100% straight.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Dude has excellent taste.

SOOOooooooooooooooo much more intriguing and mysterious and sensual than his look at the Hollywood Awards event.

THIS is what will keep me an avid follower…………..

I’m hopeful that some of the shots that didn’t make the cover, will appear on the inside, as there were several I would have had a hard time choosing between for the cover shot

but THIS one is unbelievable. I’m sure Adam is so very proud right now.

I’m hopeful that THIS look, and his music’s basis in rock will be front and center. There is a huge market share out there of folks who are still rockin after many many years….who are eager to spend money to hear some new stuff….a HUGE market that is often overlooked. Don’t forget about us Adam.

Ok, so I guess I won’t let my Adam-loving kid read the article, lol. The snake and butterfly are super cheesy, but the interview should be highly entertaining.

The quote about Kris being his type is only going to encourage the craziness of the Kradam fans. I kind of wish that he had mentioned that he found Danny and Sarver hot, just because.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Lambert (graphically) tells Rolling Stone.

Best. Quote. Ever. I love how he’s not filtering his thoughts. He talks the way real people do and I admire him for it.

So over him. He better have a fantastic album for all the hype he’s getting.

What I love about Adam is that he is owning and controling this issue. Its no longer about blogs, gossip columnists or tabs. Here are some more quotes from popeater:

“Through it all, Lambert says he’s “finally checked in to my self-worth for the first time in my life, and the fact that it has coincided with ‘Idol’ is so sweet.” Sure, he still has his self doubts, but, as he put it, “for the most part, when I look in the mirror now, I finally see somebody who can do something cool.”

“The photos were never directly addressed by Lambert until now because he was afraid they’d “be so sensationalized that it would overshadow what I was there to do, which was sing … It shouldn’t matter. (sighs) Except it does. (shaking head) It’s really confusing.”

“Speaking openly about this subject matter hasn’t always come easy for Lambert. He says that during school, he was “so scared” of his sexuality. He never even confirmed the news to his parents, who found out in shocking fashion.

Adam’s father Eber caught his 13-year-old son looking at gay pornography on the family computer, and turned to his wife and said ‘It’s official.’

Later, Lambert’s mother asked if he had a girlfriend. He said no. She asked if he had a boyfriend. He said no. Then she asked if he wanted a boyfriend, to which Lambert replied “Yes, that would be nice.

“Suddenly, it was like a wall dropped, and we started gabbing like crazy,” Lambert says.”

*Thud* Cannot wait to get mine. Glad that in the article he addresses his huge female fan base. His other-worldly sensuality excites men and women of all ages. Looks like an icon to me.

Ellie2 – I was drawn to the white shirt, suspenders, messy hair as well.

The promise of that pic on the inside is enough to make me buy the mag.

His video clip for Rolling Stone shows how excited and humble he is (and doesn’t mention his sexuality, FOR THE RECORD). He is who he is and he can be that way AND make amazing music. Has the Tour started yet?

Adam is AMAZING! He is such an icon!

Wow, that is HOT. Can’t wait to get my copy.

That….was…awesome.

Having Adam on the cover has seriously dropped my opinion of Rolling Stone in a HUGE way. This is honestly nothing against him personally but more to the fact that it seems like a sell out for them. It’s a big deal to make the cover of Rolling Stone and being on American Idol (while performing well) without actually having ever put out an ounce of any of your own material is kind of not worthy in my eyes. Like I said it has nothing to do with Adam at all, it could’ve been any of the contestants…..just think it’s stupid, especially the reason as to why he’s on the cover.

Today show video about the RS cover:

Today Show video

Haven’t seen the video yet but I LOVE the cover. And pretty much nothing shocks me. I ove the artistry of the cover, the cool look, and Adam can pretty much say anything and just get it all out. There is a wide variety in human sexuality, so nothing really shocks me. Love him. I really hope he nails it on his CD w/ good songs, good production, etc.

Adam is AMAZING! He is such an icon!

He really has the potential to be one. He already is starting to be one cultually and in fashion with his openness. The only ingredient he needs is his music, and it starts this fall with his debut album.

Later, Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mother asked if he had a girlfriend. He said no. She asked if he had a boyfriend. He said no. Then she asked if he wanted a boyfriend, to which Lambert replied à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Yes, that would be nice.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Suddenly, it was like a wall dropped, and we started gabbing like crazy,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Lambert says.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

OK this made me tear up. That moment between mother & child, when you’re really inside your kid’s head and you’re privileged to be their sounding board as they travel towards adulthood relationships…it’s just one of the highlights of being a mom (or a dad, I guess, I dont know – I’m a mom! LOL)

I think it is wonderful that this year American Idol has given us two such totally different individuals to wrap our arms around. First we have Kris who is perfect for the “family”; safe, beautiful voice, married to his high school sweetheart, religous, very middle America. Then we have Adam who is perfect for the “wild” side; flamboyant, OTT, non-filtered, outrageously sexy, freaky and very “outlandish” America.

I am sure there are many of us who wish we could be as “insane” as Adam apparently is. I am totally enjoying this ride and I don’t find anything Adam says or does offensive to me. He embodies all of the “wild” stuff that I have so enjoyed in my life but haven’t always been able to express.

Boarding a plane at LAX. Can’t wait to read posts. To quote (was it Ellie2?) me = dead!

Yeah. Sorry, Sarver. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just not that into you.

:lol_tb:

Have to give Adam credit for having exquisite taste. :thumbup_tb:

cheese said:
The quote about Kris being his type is only going to encourage the craziness of the Kradam fans. I kind of wish that he had mentioned that he found Danny and Sarver hot, just because.

*****

Oh, but this way it will drive them nuts (Sarver especially) wondering why he doesn’t go for them!

To quote (was it Ellie2?) me = dead!

Yeah, that’s pretty much my default position where Adam is concerned!

OML is Adam not the most beautiful sexy hot man alive? My jaw just hit the floor.

Love him, Love his voice, Love his style, Love how he performs and IMO he is the best Idol contestant of any season, of all seasons combined. No one comes close.

On attention from the opposite sex, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I loved it this season when the girls went crazy for meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful…….

Priceless, lol

I can’t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesn’t turn me off, it’s what comes out of his mouth.

Oh dear. Another day that I will not be able to tear myself away from the internet. Today might be a good day to go to the gym. Lots of excess energy and no problem being bored while there are such thoughts of Adam.

Oh.MY.GOD.

*thud*

I’m in heaven…and going to purchase this magazine as soon as I humanly can.

I like Adam and certainly don’t mind that he’s gay, and I’m glad that he is secure and proud of it. My only problem is that getting a Rolling Stone cover used to actually mean something. You had to be a successful actor of musician, but now you can get the cover without making any music, just for discussing your sexuality. My problem is not with Adam, it’s with the magazine. In my opinion he should have talked to a different one.

“Having Adam on the cover has seriously dropped my opinion of Rolling Stone in a HUGE way. ”

This is the same magazine that’s put the Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift, the cast of The Hills, and the cast of Gossip Girl on its cover. It’s clearly as much a pop culture magazine as a music mag now. That’s why Adam’s on it: he’s got the talent but he’s also a big pop culture phenomenon right now.

The cover picture is HOT. I love it. Adam’s quotes are great IMO even though I honestly wish he hadn’t mentioned Clay Aiken at all because the media’s going to be all about the “b**chy queen” fight.

Oy.
Do your thang, Adam. You take me back to high school, when those of us who had gay friends (wayyy back in the closet days) were “friends of friends of Dorothy.”

Adam’s so explicit in this interview he’s going to lose some fans for sure. But I’m sure he doesn’t give a hoot. He’s got plenty of fans who will revel in this candor and, dare I say, exhibitionism? I wish him all the best.

And those of you who are huge fans of Adam’s music and persona: be glad he’s not “the” Idol. I think he’d get a lot more grief for this if he came in first. As a society, we still have a ways to go in the Tolerance Department.

And I LOVE his dad:

Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s father Eber caught his 13-year-old son looking at gay pornography on the family computer, and turned to his wife and said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s official.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

OML is Adam not the most beautiful sexy hot man alive? My jaw just hit the floor.

Love him, Love his voice, Love his style, Love how he performs and IMO he is the best Idol contestant of any season, of all seasons combined. No one comes close.

This says it all..

Love the RS cover and the video, but I have to agree with taran33 about that quote (the “sticking it in” one). I had Adam down as a classy guy – I think most fans felt the same, according to comments here and elsewhere. That, though, is not a classy way to express the idea he wanted to put over to his female fans – IMHO.

Perhaps the full article will clarify it, one way or the other; a quote taken out of context can be misleading.

@ellie2, I probably shouldn’t say that when getting on a plane. Five hours without Internet and iPhone reception?!?! TORTURE right now. Freakin’ TORTURE! Well, by tonight, I’ll be drinkin up Adam in paradise.

I know I will probably be hated on, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

The show is over. And I think anyone who watched it knows that Adam isn’t the typical Idol contestant. Families come in all types and for me, personally, I would hope that my kids grow up as secure in their own skin as Adam and as honest about their feelings as he is. Nothing he said in that interview is shocking to me and I’m a midwestern suburban mom. I find him refreshing.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place.

Well, I guess I don’t believe that just because you appear on a reality show that they own you or that they can censor your speech – especially after you’re off the show. Also, with all the gay banter between Simon and Ryan over the years, and Paula’s boobage spilling out all over, I think there is plenty that is actually ON the show that some folks could consider “not family oriented”.

Additionally, I haven’t found a single thing he said remotely offensive. Finally saw the video too – looks like they had a ton of great shots to choose from.

I remember when the naked John Lennon cover on RS was shocking. I was 15 at the time and it didn’t shock me at all. John & Yoko were artists, and it was an artistic cover. Artists say and do things that are provacative. Personally, I like that.

Is it wrong that I laughed very hard when I opened MJ’s front page and saw this?

http://www.fileupyours.com/files/163484/mjpage.jpg

BEST. COVER. EVER……….Poor Michael Sarver and Danny Gokey : No crush for you

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

taran33 Not picking on you but just highlighting your quote because I think there will be many who will have this reaction initially. To this I have two words: Paula Abdul. She’s been the poster girl for drug addiction. I think many fans have projected fantasies onto who and what their Idols are…John Lennon did every kind of drug and likely had all kinds of sexual experiences out of the mainstream…didn’t stop him from writing Imagine nor David Archuleta from performing it. *shrug*

Sweet puppies f**king this is freaking HOT! I’ll be salivating over it all day. Add in his grittiness and unfiltered candor, which I adore, and I’ll be a fan for life. I hope to heaven that his album lives up to his personality so he can really have it all. He’s a personality that the world has been needing. He tears me away from my dreary day and gives me such joy that I want the universe to return that joy to him ten fold.

Well, by tonight, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be drinkin up Adam in paradise.

Me = jealous. LOL.

The cover, and the video, are RIDICULOUS (in a good way).

But I agree with JJ123 that Adam has not deserved to be on the RS cover YET. I would have preferred them to write the same article, but no cover. RS apprently really needs to sell some copies. Maybe it’s their way to try and get to a different set of customers, but I’m afraid they will lose some in the process, like they already have been doing in the last few years.

wow.. Adam is on the front page of yahoo already. lol

If I were him I wouldn’t have done this magazine especially given what he has said. I’m not really seeing what is so different from what Clay did with his magazine cover. Adam is now known more for being a “celebrity” then being a musician and I only see that continuing. He might be fine with that though. He seems to like the limelight.

Not a fan of the butterfly and snake either – just too “obvious”. But dang – that cover photo.

Double dang!

Not a fan of the “sticking it in there” quote either. Reads a little “coarse” to me (for lack of a better word). I can understand his comment about finding it beautiful, though not his thing. Wish he would have dropped the “sticking it in there” though or worded it nicer.

Fierce!

By the way, yahoo also has his record deal on the front of their site as well.

Love him more, if that is even possible says this mother of many

“”"Adam is now known more for being a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“celebrityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  then being a musician and I only see that continuing”"”

I am sorry but I disagree with this, this, will put him in the spotlight, yes, but the beautiful music he makes, will keep him there. If I need to be calmed I play Mad World, sometimes you just need a good cry, I play Mad World, he stirs something in you and I am so glad that American Idol brought him to us this year. I just cannot wait for more music from Adam

This little article mostly covers the highlights of the RS article, but the last paragraph has an extended quote from Ferras (one of the songwriters working with Adam) that I found interesting.

http://www.popnography.com/

Ferras actually knew Adam before he went on Idol and has written songs for some really big names. This could be interesting!

Love the RS cover and the video, but I have to agree with taran33 about that quote (the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“sticking it inà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  one). I had Adam down as a classy guy – I think most fans felt the same, according to comments here and elsewhere. That, though, is not a classy way to express the idea he wanted to put over to his female fans – IMHO.

Perhaps the full article will clarify it, one way or the other; a quote taken out of context can be misleading.

Totally agree about making judgements based on out of context quotes!

Also, just wanted to say something that has been perculating in my brain for the last week or so – Yes, Adam IS classy and part of that is knowing exactly what is appropriate for different situations. We know he can dress in anything from the conservative young Elvis look to the total glam-rock Zodiac club look, yet he is always dressed correctly for the venue he is in (maybe pushing the fashion envelope a bit – but appropriate). I am assuming that is the same with his language and phrasing. We all vary how we speak depending on where/when/with who we are. Just because he will speak this way with Rolling Stone (definitely NOT a family friendly focus) doesn’t mean he would speak this way in other contexts (as we KNOW since we’ve been following every interview out there! )

Wish he would have dropped the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“sticking it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  though or worded it nicer.

I like his lack of filter. If he’d worded it “nicer” it would have seemed like just that, something worded for political correctness. I mean, he’s talking the way we all talk when we’re just sitting around with friends (or at least the way my friends and I talk). I love the fact that he’s not over-processed when he speaks. I want to hear Adam’s voice, not the voice of PR coaches.

Additionally, I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t found a single thing he said remotely offensive.

Unfortuantely in American culture, just the word gay can be offensive and not “family-oriented” for some.

How much would you guys pay for a 1 hour pay-per-view event of a vocal throw-down between Adam and Clay. *drools*

Oh and i never thought Adam would be THIS honest. I mean, some of the stuff in these article, defiantly American Idol firsts. drugs, porn…he gets some much props for being completely honest and i think it makes him look like a badass (take note, Clay).

“Adam’s father Eber caught his 13-year-old son looking at gay pornography on the family computer, and turned to his wife and said ‘It’s official.’
-The clips of his dad during the show talking about Adam, i bet that was a total LOL moment in the house. It was probably awkward for about 30 seconds before his dad was like, “Oh fuck it, at least the kid can sing.” And then 1 week later it was like nothing had changed.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Lambert (graphically) tells Rolling Stone.

Best. Quote. Ever. I love how heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not filtering his thoughts. He talks the way real people do and I admire him for it.

I disagree. The guy needs to have a filter where certain things are concerned. I’m sorry but ‘real people’ don’t talk that way not in the public eye anyhow. I guess if you like graphic talk it’s cool to you but it won’t be to everyone. He’s still new at all this. He’s no doubt expecting some backlash …. and he will get it. Hopefully he learns from it and carries on.

I know I will probably be hated on, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

Well, at least the RS cover happened OUTSIDE of the actual Idol bubble.

Personally, I’m more disturbed that AI promotes its so-called family values, yet invites artists like Flo Rida and Black Eyed Peas to perform their decidedly less-than-family-friendly songs on the Idol stage. Hypocrisy, thy name is American Idol.

What comes out of Adam’s mouth is truth and honesty. Our politicians should take their cue from him.

I know I will probably be hated on, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

I really don’t understand what is so offensive. I would really appreciate it is someone who is offended by this article could explain it to me, because I really would like to understand it better.

I thought AI was a singing competition/reality show and pop music showcase. Look at the acts they book on the results night shows? They put on the artists with #1 hits and many have said far more contraversial things than in Adam’s interview.

So what is the big issue? That he’s openingly discussing being gay? I found the exerpt that unique28v posted made me tear up a bit.

Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s father Eber caught his 13-year-old son looking at gay pornography on the family computer, and turned to his wife and said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s official.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

Later, Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mother asked if he had a girlfriend. He said no. She asked if he had a boyfriend. He said no. Then she asked if he wanted a boyfriend, to which Lambert replied à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Yes, that would be nice.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Suddenly, it was like a wall dropped, and we started gabbing like crazy,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Lambert says.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

If you can’t talk about being gay on TV, then they should not broadcast the Tony Award’s anymore — and a lot of other shows.

Or was it offensive because he discussed drug use? Well kids can find out more about drugs in any school anti-drug program — and those have been around for 50 years.

Love this quote from Ferras about Adam: “And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give a fuck. He is who he is, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s something thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s very novel à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and respectable.”

That’s what I love about Adam. He’s going to be who he is, and if that costs him some fans, so be it. The rest of us will be happy to stick around!

I never thought I’d be jealous of a snake.

Rolling Stone is the new Rock God.

Sweet puppies f**king this is freaking HOT! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be salivating over it all day. Add in his grittiness and unfiltered candor, which I adore, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be a fan for life. I hope to heaven that his album lives up to his personality so he can really have it all. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a personality that the world has been needing. He tears me away from my dreary day and gives me such joy that I want the universe to return that joy to him ten fold.

You said it. I can’t say it any better so I’ll just quote you.

I feel like I did after he sang Ring Of Fire. Totally blown away and not entirely coherent. I hope he continues to make me feel like this for some time to come.

Wow. So he’s a pill-popping druggie, too?

I love how candid he is. How can you not want to continue to know more about him? I don’t know why he’d lose fans. Nothing is shocking. Many of us have tried drugs (I guarantee you former Idol winners have), have been attracted to people we meet, etc. He’s going to be an amazing artist if he is able to infuse his work with “Adam”. Music needs to shake us up at time. The cover is super hot too! I love that he’s not in a box. He finds the girls screaming for him “hot”. (frankly, I’m straight but I find some girls hot too)

Personally, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m more disturbed that AI promotes its so-called family values, yet invites artists like Flo Rida and Black Eyed Peas to perform their decidedly less-than-family-friendly songs on the Idol stage. Hypocrisy, thy name is American Idol.

Amen to that.

I don’t know why people think he isn’t worthy of RS. They went pop culture a long time ago, and if Adam & Idol ain’t pop culture, I don’t know what is.

PS Nice snake.

From http://www.popnography.com/:

“We ran into an old friend of Adam’s last night at Hollywood’s Hotel Cafe. Ferras, an out singer-songwriter whose “Hollywood’s Not America” was featured on last season of Idol, is writing a song for Adam’s new album. “Hopefully he will open up some doors for others to follow,” Ferras told Out. “I think weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re very fortunate to have somebody like Adam who the world has gravitated to because of his sheer talent. But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also time. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nothing new. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just finally happening because of the vehicle of 40 million people watching the show. I do think it says something that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s getting all this press. And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give a fuck. He is who he is, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s something thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s very novel à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and respectable.” (We’ll have more with Ferras later this week.)”

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what I love about Adam. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be who he is, and if that costs him some fans, so be it. The rest of us will be happy to stick around!

:thumbup_tb:

This thread just makes me laugh. Adam’s done it again. He comes along and rattles the cages, doesn’t he? He loves shocking the shit out of people.

So heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a pill-popping druggie, too?

I wouldn’t go that far. He’s done some drugs. So has half the world. Personally I find homophobia much more offensive.

Adam went on American Idol for one purpose. To try and get recognition. And now that he has he isn’t going to be the American Idol Cover Boy (Carrie Underwood has that all sewn up anyway).

I can’t speak for Adam but I really feel that he doesn’t give a frigg for what “middle America” thinks about him. They aren’t his audience. Nor are the tweens and teens that gravitate to American Idol contestants like David Archuleta.

He seems to want his audience to be the open minded non judgmental demographic that made the glam rock bands famous, who understood what a yellow submarine really was, who are a bit anti-establishment, who rock the night away at a cool club, who blare music on their CD player, who are into fashion trends and new ideas, who aren’t afraid of the off color comment or off color joke.

Go Adam….I am part of that demographic and proud of it (even at my age…now pass the brownies).

Having Adam on the cover has seriously dropped my opinion of Rolling Stone in a HUGE way. This is honestly nothing against him personally but more to the fact that it seems like a sell out for them. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a big deal to make the cover of Rolling Stone and being on American Idol (while performing well) without actually having ever put out an ounce of any of your own material is kind of not worthy in my eyes. Like I said it has nothing to do with Adam at all, it couldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been any of the contestantsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..just think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s stupid, especially the reason as to why heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on the cover.

The thing is, Rolling Stone has long been a magazine more about the culture and the society than about music, per se. (That’s what they’ve tried to be, anyway!). …

That being the case, I believe that Adam is on the cover for the exact same reason that Neil Patrick Harris was the (very good) host of the Tony awards on Sunday. It’s long been the dream of many in the entertainment industry — definitely including Jann Wenner, a gay man who was able to come out only in middle age, more or less — that gay folks will be able to be who they are from the beginning of their careers and still be able to mingle freely with straight folks and get the exact same opportunities.

And I think that a lot of people in entertainment are beginning to think — or, at least, hope — that with the gay-marriage recognition happening around the country and such, that we’ve perhaps reached that watershed. That the young generation is going to accomplish this.

Harris and Adam are both potential symbols for that huge societal change. Pretty much as soon as NPH entered the adult acting field (after being the kid-actor), he said, Hi, I’m an adult actor now, and, by the way, I’m gay. And now he plays an aggressively *heterosexual* man on a popular network tv show. That is the dream, and he’s living it.

Somewhat similarly, if Adam is able to be a top finalist on a very mainstream tv talent contest and then translate that into some solid musical success selling a substantial number of albums and concert tickets in pop and rock with gender-neutral and — eventually, because I’m not eating any funny plants, here — even gay lyrics, having begun his career as a totally out gay young man, then he, too, will have lived a dream that many have dreamed for a long time. And he’ll be a cultural — if not a musical — icon of a sort.

Time will tell. But it’s no surprise at all that Wenner was very very interested in this story.

Ok, so we’ve only gotten excerpts of the article so far, but the parts I love:

Talking about Kris totally being his type (distracting!) That is hilarious! And I’m glad Kris was cool with it too What an awesome pair!

Also love that Adam sets the record straight that Kris is 100% straight — thanks for that one, all our fantasies are now crushed :wink_wp:

Also loved the “coming out to his parents” moment with his mom – his parents just seem so cool and accepting, which is so great! That must have really helped him be so comfortable in his own skin! I always remember when they were interviewing the parents earlier in the season, and his father talked about how Adam loved to play dress up: “Sports – not so much” (LOL!)

Is it wrong that I laughed very hard when I opened MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s front page and saw this?

http://www.fileupyours.com/files/163484/mjpage.jpg

Okay, this made me almost spit my iced tea all over my keyboard!

You know, this thread is an illustration why Adam is on the cover of RS — because love him or hate him, we’re all talking about him. This will probably be the best selling issue of RS to date. I’m going to be at my local Barnes and Noble with my nose pressed against the glass as of tomorrow morning…

Adam’s bluntness is definitely going to take some off guard, especially those who thought they “knew” his personality based on a tv show. It just goes to prove AGAIN that we don’t know these people and it is best not to put them on a pedestal or assign character traits to them that WE want them to have or have decided we recognize.

Now, since I never did that, I found the interview insightful, refreshing and nicely subversive. Well played, Adam. If it helps you jettison a few fanatical fans with stars in their eyes, well that means fewer tour scrapbooks you’ll have to find ways to get rid of at the end of the summer.

Go Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.I am part of that demographic and proud of it (even at my ageà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦now pass the brownies).

LMAO!

Awesome!

I disagree. The guy needs to have a filter where certain things are concerned. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry but à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹real peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk that way not in the public eye anyhow. I guess if you like graphic talk ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cool to you but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be to everyone. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still new at all this. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no doubt expecting some backlash à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. and he will get it. Hopefully he learns from it and carries on.

Being controversial and provocative – not to mention brutally honest – is kind of his thing. He isn’t trying to be traditional Idol star, he’s already moving past AI. Sure, he’ll lose some of his AI fans – but he kind of needs to do that to be who and what he wants to be. The world is huge outside of American Idol, and frankly he didn’t say anything that is shocking in the music/entertainment world.

He’s got full backing from 19E and RCA. It’s no co-incidence that the press release of his recoding contract came out today. It doesn’t seem like they are trying to restrain him in any way, that release read almost like a fan letter :smile_wp:

With what Lambert has accomplished to date, he is on par with other “celebrities” like Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson, and Heidi and Spencer.

cant say who yet, but i have heard adam’s management is awesome:)

Smart boy. He certainly played this whole sexuality thing out to his advantage. Nice article and great picture. It certainly won’t hurt his career to be on the cover of the Rolling Stone. Cute that he thought Kris was attractive. Of course he is! I think Kris may have gotten as many of the gay votes as Adam. LOL

cant say who yet, but i have heard adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management is awesome:)

Who ARE you, elephant1212?! LOL. Are you talking about someone specific within 19?

I like his lack of filter. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d worded it à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“nicerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  it would have seemed like just that, something worded for political correctness. I mean, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s talking the way we all talk when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just sitting around with friends (or at least the way my friends and I talk). I love the fact that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not over-processed when he speaks. I want to hear Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice, not the voice of PR coaches.

Ellie2, I agree. It is interesting that in the Today Show interview Vanessa Grigoriadis, the RS reporter, made a similar comment about Adam open and no over-processed.

This is a really long article, and based on hours of interviews. So, regarding the “sticking it in” comment, I will cut him a break on that one. You know if you want openness and honesty, then you also get a bit of unfiltered language. What he was saying was actually quite nice, if you get past those 3 words. Andif that is the most contraversal part of the interview, then I think Adam did really well.

I still want to hear what Kris and Katy think of Adam talking about Kris being cute and his type. LOL Danny must be so jealous!! Sarver will just write another song or two.

I laughed all the way throught the quotes. I don’t mean to be stereotypical, but do you guys have gay friends? Snarky ones? Many of them talk like this, and it’s part of their charm to me. Sometimes, it’s fun to relax a little and have a sense of humor. The “stick it” is something my gay friends would so say.

I’m super impressed with the RCA press release. Those are some unbelievable words from Barry Weiss, President of Sony. As for Adam, he is boldly making the leap away from Idol. If you are going to be a star, you have to appeal beyond Idol and get those fans that are your peers. No one who is fair in the least, can read this and say Adam is a druggie. Sony wouldn’t sign him. (I hope those accusers have never tried a drug in their life)

He’s all the rage in the media, so that’s why they put him on the cover. Although he has not done an album yet, his collection of performances on Idol showcased his stellar vocal ability, unique stage persona, and riveting star quality. Couple that with music critics, producers and major recording artists who have been quoted repeatedly about their respect for his talent. RS has an excellent track record of predicting future stars and have put such people on the cover before. Adam is on the cusp of his stardom, and this cover captures that moment beautifully.

You may say that I am one of those who fans who voted for him and asked myself will I still like him if he said he’s gay. There was hesitation at first but when I heard the news at Ryan’s KISSFM, I find myself amused and smiling. So I guess the answer is I loved Adam even more for what he did. It’s like he’s saying to treat me as a human being. He knows that not everyone will like his coming out but he’s out there to share his music. Ryan was kind a goofy when he said that Adam’s coming out gay was not the real shocker but it was Kris being in the next issue is the real shocker….then he said later on, just kidding.

By the way TKat, you did you research well. I will go and buy the RS tomorrow.

I have a feeling (wishful thinking?) that Adam might come out and clarify some of the drug use statements. I think that even though he is into ‘pissing people off’ etc., there is a part of him that will understand the responsibility he has to his fans. It can be misconstrued as an endorsement for drugs, habitual drug use etc. I am a completely liberal, open minded person, and I think that people have the right to do what they want in their own time, but I have to be honest in saying that these statements re: drug use are alienating. Way more than the fact that he is gay. I love the “coming out” aspect of the article. I am happy that he was able to do so in context and I absolutely love the quote “Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful.” Awesome!!! I have to admit that I am a bit turned off by all the drug talk.

He’s actually made American Idol more cool

If you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk about being gay on TV, then they should not broadcast the Tony Awardà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s anymore à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and a lot of other shows.

Um, the Tony Awards has fun poking fun at the “gay” aspect of Broadway, and now (thank heaven) people can thank their gay partners as effusively and candidly as straight people thank theirs.

But there’s a difference here. Adam is being very candid about sexual stuff, which is not the Tonys thing at all.

RS is a perfect forum for that, and Adam is really very shrewd about how this all came down.

Don’t shoot me please. But I’m personally tired of hearing the more graphic stuff about celebrity sex lives, drug use, rehab, etc. It’s all over cable TV and the net, and ultimately it just gets tiresome and rather smarmy — gay, straight or bi.

What I find most interesting about this is how many people (on this board anyway), who I presume are women (I could be wrong) have the raging hots for Adam, and this just seems to increase their attraction to him. I like the guy’s talent, his boldness, his having fun with fabulousness. But he’s never made my heart go pitty-pat….

What I find most interesting about this is how many people (on this board anyway), who I presume are women (I could be wrong) have the raging hots for Adam,

I freely admit to being one of those women and I actually find it pretty interesting myself. No way to explain it, really. I know the man is gay but it doesn’t matter in the least. He’s walking, talking sex to me. I’ve stopped trying to figure it out and I’m just going with it. *shrugs*

Adam is on the front page of AOL too, although they are saying he made a “dig” at clay, which I don’t see.

Adam is not trying to be THE American Idol, and has always said how much he admires Kris and was thrilled that he won. What he HAS said is that he wanted a platform for his music, that he got it, and that he now can make the kind of music he always wanted to make, but on a much larger scale. He was never coy; he just didn’t want his homosexuality to hinder his musical prowess on the program. He ALWAYS said he was taking chances on Idol, and he always has said that he appreciated the backing of his fans and TPTB. He was a contestant that Idol will never have again. Kudos to his parents for letting him be himself–God knows, this is often not the case (my supervisor is gay, but keeps it very quiet)–and kudos for Adam for continuing to be his own person.

BTW, in the confessionals, he first said that he had some regrets about doing RoF (in my top 3 performances), but later noted that he really didn’t. It was his chance to sing something in his wheelhouse, and that he had no problem with being a polarizing figure. If he were not so wildly talented, he wouldn’t have progressed so far in the competition, but he is, so major kudos for the risks he took EVERY SINGLE WEEK. He never played it safe, always changed it up, and was respected for doing so. I do think that Kris is a better winning Idol (love him, but he is a lot more conventional), and that Adam has a better chance of bringing to the public what he wants to do. And if that means he loses people, fine, he’s already done that, anyway. Clearly, 19/RCA is thrilled to be representing him, and we are lucky to get to accompany him on the journey.

Yeah. Sorry, Sarver. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just not that into you.

THIS! Best line ever!

A couple of thoughts popped into my head when I saw, read and tried to process this information. First, the thing to remember is that Adam isn’t approaching anything as an Idol contestant or as a former Idol contestant anymore. In the larger context, the cover (the snake), the references to minor drug use (love his negative comments about cocaine) and the other stuff is honest, real, slightly provocative, but by no means over the edge. Second, the comments about Kris. Given all the conversations he and Kris have had and their obvious closeness, you know there is nothing here that he hasn’t already said to Kris AND Katy to their faces. I can just imagine the three of them yukking it up over his initial thoughts about Kris. Last, like the correspondent on the Today Show segment said, Adam got it out there in the open now. He’s not going to be sitting in a hotel room with a webcam like Clay, hiding who he is and hating himself for it. This is a guy who is thrilled to have a chance like this because (as he’s said) he gets to do what he loves and at the same time this will hopefully provide some security for himself and his family.

I know there are haters out there. But for me, I reserve my hate for people who deserve such strong emotions, people like Chris Brown who smack women around and then can’t accept responsibility for their actions. Adam Lambert hasn’t and isn’t hurting anyone. He’s just being who he is and even if I didn’t like his singing or disagreed with his choices, I could never hate him. And I certainly can’t understand someone who does.

Fortunately for me, I love his singing and I’m accepting of his choices (because they are his choices). I’m so happy I got to know this beautiful person through American Idol. I will be cheering him on at his Idol concert and in life.

elephant1212 Jun 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am

cant say who yet, but i have heard adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management is awesome:)

So does that mean it’s NOT 19 Management?

TMO

TMI

I know I will probably be hated on, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

Like others have said above, Idol does many things that I find offensive. Yes, from Paula’s ever-present cleavage to Simon and Ryan’s childish gay jokes, to rap-artist guests who have nothing to do with American Idol, to blatant pimping to blatant manipulation to blatant advertising of coca cola, Idol is full of offensive material just about every show.

They can’t control what Adam says after the show ends, especially when he’s not the winner. It’s probably best for him not to win. I love the cover photo and his being candid. However the “sticking it in there” comment was crude and lacked class. I hope he’ll be a little more sensitive about what he says. Otherwise he’s a breath of fresh air because he is honest. Admitting that he was attracted to Kris is very sweet. And I love how Kris obviously doesn’t feel threatened by it.

I don’t think he was on the cover just because he’s gay. But because he’s exciting and wildly talented, and also happens to be gay. He’s colorful and provocative, and sells magazines.

“Just because I’m not sticking it in there…” this quote does not offend me because the “stick it in” portion is actually about how he does NOT see women. He’s saying he finds us beautiful, but we are not part of the crude aspect of sexuality to him. One could see it as a compliment, and I do. He finds us beautiful! He finds us hot! :smile_wp:

But heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s never made my heart go pitty-patà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Attractiveness is subjective. There is not one person in the entire world that everyone is going to think is attractive or “hot”. I’m still trying to see what all the fuss is about Brad Pitt, but its obvious I am in the minority on that one. Its all good. One person’s garbage is another person’s treasure.

The more important aspect of Adam is that he appeals to both genders, which is rare. Most people can’t appeal to one let alone two. lol Angelina Jolie is another example. Both men and women are attracted to her, which helps her appeal to a broader audience.

Being on the cover of RS is only positive. Its not negative, especially since this is happening right before the tour starts. Adam already stated he is singing new music on the tour which will generate new/more interest and hopefully new fans for his fall album release.

His marketing team is good, and it helps that Adam is a smart cookie himself.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what I love about Adam. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be who he is, and if that costs him some fans, so be it. The rest of us will be happy to stick around!

Couldn’t agree more … I love his honesty and I love the fact that he’s going to be himself no matter what. Personally I’m not surprised or shocked by any of the bits and pieces coming out of the article and it’s just made me like him more and I admire him for not glossing over issues that he must know will turn people against him.

Good luck to him .. I can’t wait to hear his album and will continue supporting him as I think he’s a very special talent and I have my fingers crossed that he will come over to the UK sometime in the future.

…. and damn, that RS cover is hot !!!!

Fabulous post, LaurelG

Hi everyone. Newbie here. I have been following along for several weeks now – man, I’m gonna get fired!

Just have to say – Adam is one beautifal man, gay or straight, and I have a feeling there are tons of middle aged women (me) and boys out there who are going to have to change their underwear after seeing the cover and the video! Love him!

Of course Adam needs to win new fans. So does Kris. You can’t be successful with just people who watch the show, especially since many of those just follow the show and don’t buy the music.

Also, Adam is just being Adam. How is he different? He’s always been provacative, honest, and candid. He’s never been the average joe or pageant type person. I just don’t get the whole “people are going to be outraged” segment. It seems like people who didn’t like Adam still don’t, although they might respect him, those who love Adam for the most part do, and the rest are waiting for his album to come out. If people aren’t going to be a fan of Adam just because he’s gay and admitted to some pot use then he doesn’t need them anyways. There are like 6 billion people in the world, a portion of that will like Adam. lol

yawn.

A-DAMN!

This is going to be one unproductive day.

I’m still a bit hung up over the drug part. I hope he will clarify if it indeed was in his PAST and where he is on the drug issue CURRENTLY. Having a drug-induced epiphany to go on AI doesn’t fit with becoming a role model. I wouldn’t want one of my kids trying some drug to realize what their goals/aspirations should be. Just voicing an opinion. I’m an Adam fan, but this did bother me.

I like his lack of filter. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d worded it à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“nicerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  it would have seemed like just that, something worded for political correctness. I mean, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s talking the way we all talk when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just sitting around with friends (or at least the way my friends and I talk).

Actually, me and my friends don’t talk that way about sticking things in there. That’s pretty crude talk. I think most people, at least anyone I know, uses a bit more subtlety when talking about sex. That comment hit a sour note for me and obviously others. Otherwise, it was all candid and honest so I liked the rest.

“The more important aspect of Adam is that he appeals to both genders, which is rare. Most people canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t appeal to one let alone two. lol Angelina Jolie is another example. Both men and women are attracted to her, which helps her appeal to a broader audience.” Great comparison unique! I’m straight and I think Angelina is hot. Beautiful to both sexes. Oh, and like I pointed out, Adam thinks women are beautiful too!

What I find most interesting about this is how many people (on this board anyway), who I presume are women (I could be wrong) have the raging hots for Adam

It doesn’t surprise me. An attractive person is an attractive person.

I agree with clearone. People in the public eye don’t say things like “sticking it in there”. Or maybe they should not say it. Sure maybe some talk with their friends like that, but RS is not his friend. And the RS magazine is not going out to only Adam friends, they are going to fans as well that will find comments like this offensive. Wording it better does not mean being overprocessed, or politically correct, or whatever. Having a filter isn’t an all together bad thing.

But, this is Adam’s first “big” interview. I think he’s a smart guy. He will learn how to use a filter without sounding overprocessed, politically correct, etc and yet being true and honest to himself.

I’m still planning on being the first one in line when his cd is released – that one comment doesn’t scare me off.

he is breathtaking…i love the fact that he is who he is!

i think its hard to hang on every word he says…i am sure that it was a long interview process and that they took the most colorful statements and had them stand out.

i am glad that he said he loved the women loving him, smart move on his part. i just always get the feeling that he knows what he’s doing, and everything he does is for a reason. very smart man.

i have adored him from day one..and am a middle aged mother of two who cant wait to buy RS!!

LOVE the cover — although the snake and the butterfly may be a teensy bit of overkill…

And Adam’s candor is so freakin’ great. I don’t have any problem at all with the “not sticking it in there” comment. There were a lot of rumors on the internet about how he was bisexual — probably starting by a bunch of delusional women. This comment should stop those rumors dead in their tracks. It’s not insulting — he clearly appreciates the reaction he’s getting from both males and females.

I have to say that it is so wonderful that in Adam and Kris AI has two finalists who are both so totally secure in who they are and aren’t at all afraid to show it to the public at large. They rock!

Now that this RS story is out, maybe Adam will finally be able to focus on his music — which I’m sure is the most important thing to him.

(would love to be a fly on the wall at the next AI rehearsal, though — just to see Gokey’s and Sarver’s reaction to this. that’s snarky, I know — sorry! (LOL) )

I am not going to work at all today…

I haven’t had time to read through all your comments, only scanned this page so far. It looks like everyone is being accepting of Adam’s quotes overall.

Just keep in mind that we all know Adam is way upfront and is all personality with whomever he is speaking with. While reading, you can’t see the smile on his face or the devil in his eyes in a magazine. Sarcasm doesn’t read the same as when you are saying it, nor most times, does snark. Adam will need to keep that in mind when doing print interviews. We do too. Just sayin’

Can’t wait to read it and see all the photos. The film of the photo shoot looks great.

BB

“”Wow. So heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a pill-popping druggie, too?”"

Yes, looks like he was for a time, love him in all his candor. He pulls no punches, tells it like it is and just as he was on the show, you will love him or you will hate him. I LOVE him and know people who have fallen prey to one addiction or another and could never hate them for it, I will root on those that continue(hoping and praying that they change, mind you) and applaud those that got past these things. LOL – Adam does NOT tiptoe around anything does he? I really really like a person who is what he is and doesnt pretend to be anything but himself, like Adam.

As a female, I find him attractive and hot. I think because Adam doesnt’ fit into a box and isn’t so “politically correct” and all that makes him that way. He really is one of a kind. He made headlines every week for months for his voice and performances. I think that was worthy of a cover. But, he also brings something new. He isn’t processed and coached. He’s someone I respect. I can not like some of his views and comments. I can hate his latest haircut, and not like every song he sings. But, he is such a unique, creative individual that I will still love and admire him. And he doesn’t give a crap. He exposes his real self. I’ve had it with righteous, judgmental people. I can’t relate to that.

I can relate to Adam. Adam stripped down and exposed. So refreshing in this world. That is what true rock and roll was about. And that is why I am even more excited to see more of him revealed through his music and art. After reading this, I have changed my opinion, and think he’ll be a major force in music. I always thought Allison would be the breakout star, but Adam is reavealing himself to be what music is really all about.

Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful

Seriously? I wish I could believe that. Tell straight guys to imagine the same thing that gay guys do in their bedrooms, then ask them to recite that same line to you. See if you find it believable. :lol_wp:

Actually, me and my friends donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk that way about sticking things in there. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty crude talk. I think most people, at least anyone I know, uses a bit more subtlety when talking about sex. That comment hit a sour note for me and obviously others. Otherwise, it was all candid and honest so I liked the rest.

Well, I guess I’ve just got a filthy mouth/mind then, because the “sticking it in there” comment didn’t even cause me to bat an eyelash and it’s definitely something that might come out of my mouth on any given day (with friends, not in front of the kiddos, obviously). Everyone has a different level of comfort with sex talk and I didn’t see anything wrong with what Adam said, but I get that some people did.

Oh please people, everyone has to analyze every word that Adam says. We all know secretly that most of you probably like it in the heat of the moment someone whispers in your ear “I love to Stick it to you” then spanks your ass…

“As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautifulà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:bigsurprise_ee:
charming!

Here’s my problem with this cover. Granted it’s much nicer than the last issue with Lady Gah! I mean GaGa. Sorry, just don’t like her, Adam can sing!

Anywho, this will be coming to us through the mail. I just don’t want my children to see it. Sorry. They (esp. my son – who loves rock) really enjoyed Adam during the season and they are already aware of his sexuality, but I feel as if they don’t need to be exposed to this or other pictures inside – it’s too much imo.

No, they don’t read the magazine, but the cover is the cover.

In other words, here is someone they are very familiar with from supposedly family-oriented AI as opposed to other bands/singers that are generally on the cover (which they’re not so familiar with).

Just makes me a little sad. That’s all.

Holy Hotness! I am way too old for this!

Not surprised by an effing thing. So happy that he has finally had a chance to tell it like it is – and I think this was the perfect opportunity!!

Oh and by none of the comments bothered me in the least and as I already mentioned I am old….

(would love to be a fly on the wall at the next AI rehearsal, though à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  just to see Gokeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and Sarverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s reaction to this. thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s snarky, I know à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  sorry! (LOL) )

I’m sure they’re busy loving each other in a “right and Godly” way. :lol_tb:

I normally don’t care to hear anyone (other than maybe someone I’m sleeping with…) tell me where they are or are not going to stick it, however, Adam saying this didn’t bother me at all, & if I’m honest, I kinda liked it :cool1_tb:

well, the mind is a terrible thing to waste, lol…. I think sexuality transends the physical. People have orgasms in their sleep, indicating that the mind is quite capable of having its day. Mine is having a field day, lol….

Is it just me or does the Adam cover photo with the partially open shirt and that “look” — and the psychedelic mind altering experience — remind anyone else of Jim Morrison?

The Doors took their name from the title of Aldous Huxley’s The Doors of Perception (a reference to the ‘unlocking’ of ‘doors’ of perception through psychedelic drug use).”

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lucy — ditto, great comment!

elephant1212
Jun 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
cant say who yet, but i have heard adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management is awesome:)

I just heard the news and, if what I heard is trye, you’re right. It looks like they really do think that Adam can be huge. Also heard that RCA is planning to invest heavily in Adam’s album — and really push it globally.

Um, the Tony Awards has fun poking fun at the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“gayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  aspect of Broadway, and now (thank heaven) people can thank their gay partners as effusively and candidly as straight people thank theirs.

I didn’t see much of that this year, and I think all of this year’s “gay fun” came from openly gay artists. Plus, over half of the presenters did something affirmative to support passage of Marriage Equality in NY — from the white ribbon pins to explicit statements of support.

IMHO The only real gay parody of the night was the aweful “Shrek” number.

I still haven’t stopped laughing from when Neil Patrick Harris says: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Coming out for the second time this month à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  David Hyde Pierce.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Still love the cover photo! The butterfly and snake are too “obvious” to me, but otherwise very yummy. Wish I could see the video – but the work firewall won’t allow. Guess I have something to look forward to tonight when I get home.

I hope his comments about Kris won’t cause Kris to be embarrassed or concerned about how to act around Adam on tour. With the Kris is my type statement, the internet and the mags could and probably will try to read into every glance, smile, hug, gesture, banter, etc. between the two of them on tour. Can see it now, “Katy is jealous” or some such nonsense as that. Be it drugs or who he is attracted to, Adam should try to think through any possible fall-out from some of his statements before making them, imho.

P.S. nice snake

P.P.S. Rolling Stones my hero

Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful

Seriously? I wish I could believe that. Tell straight guys to imagine the same thing that gay guys do in their bedrooms, then ask them to recite that same line to you. See if you find it believable

There are plenty of people who appreciate lots of sexuality, omnisexuality.

FWIW, I would say that straight guys’ horror at gay men’s sexuality is more a product of cultural conditioning than anything else. The ancient Greeks (and plenty of other cultures at other times, as well, including, perhaps, our own) once admired young-man-on-young-man love beyond all loves. It was the man-on-female love that men tended to feel a bit squicky about, as I understand it.

But exactly what is his type? When Idol producers put him in a room to share with Allen, Lambert says his first thought was, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“They put me with the cute guy. Distracting! Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one guy I found attractive in the whole group on the show: nice, nonchalant, pretty and totally my type à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  except that he has a wife. I mean heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s open-minded and liberal, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s definitely 100% straight.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Oh my God – just about choked to death – that is the funniest thing ever – gotta love the guy!

elephant1212
Jun 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
cant say who yet, but i have heard adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management is awesome:)

I just heard the news and, if what I heard is trye, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re right. It looks like they really do think that Adam can be huge. Also heard that RCA is planning to invest heavily in Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and really push it globally.

I know you can’t say it out loud; but you confirm for me that it’s NOT 19M? Meaning, he’s going to have completely separate management from Kris?

First off I only have one word for that cover shot…WOW!!!
As for the interview, I don’t get what people find so shocking. Did you expect flowers, puppy dogs and aww-shucks? I know I didn’t. Sure some of this is out of my comfort range but that is one of the things I like about Adam. He takes me out of that boring comfort range and lets me feel ok about it. This article seems like it will be typical Adam, straight forward, open, honest and yes, polarizing. I applaud him for his “I am who I am and if you don’t like it so what” attitude. Not many people, especially those trying to make a name for themselves have that kind of confidence. Sure, this may lose him some fans but chances are they would have found something else sooner or later to turn them away anyway. I think you have keep in mind the publication that this article is in. I don’t believe RS has every claimed to be “classy”. Adam seems to know what will work in each situation and I think he will act and speak accordingly. Can’t wait to read the full article I’m sure it will be very interesting.

Scroll downnnnnnnnnnn.

I really am not going to get anything done today.

Oh and i never thought Adam would be THIS honest. I mean, some of the stuff in these article, defiantly American Idol firsts. drugs, pornà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦he gets some much props for being completely honest and i think it makes him look like a badass (take note, Clay).

THIS! I love the cover and from what I’ve read, I love the interview. I like that Adam is this honest. I think this just gives him more credibility. I don’t think he needs to sensor himself. I’m glad he has spelled it all out so there is no more mixed signals. And I’m so happy he is the one calling the shots and dictating the conversation on his personal life. That was always my beef with people quoting his brother, linking to this or that, etc. I always felt that all of this should come from Adam, even if it was obvious. Just out of respect for the guy, let him control the release of information about himself. Now that RS is out, the focus can be on his music and, of course, how increcibly hot he is!

I hope his comments about Kris wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t cause Kris to be embarrassed or concerned about how to act around Adam on tour.

I can’t imagine that Kris doesn’t already know everything Adam said about him in the interview. Adam doesn’t strike me as a beat-around-the-bush type of guy and I’m sure he and Kris already had that conversation a long time ago.

Actually, me and my friends donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk that way about sticking things in there. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty crude talk. I think most people, at least anyone I know, uses a bit more subtlety when talking about sex. That comment hit a sour note for me and obviously others. Otherwise, it was all candid and honest so I liked the rest.

I’m a little disappointed myself. In our family we like to say “shtupping” when we speak of ‘sticking it in there’. Adam, didn’t your grandmother teach you anything??? ROFL

Congratulations Adam for not pandering to overused and silly, useless euphemisms.

Tess Word to your entire post!!!

Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful

Seriously? I wish I could believe that. Tell straight guys to imagine the same thing that gay guys do in their bedrooms, then ask them to recite that same line to you. See if you find it believable. :lol_wp:

I believe that! I am a straight female(married w/ toddler), but I find women’s bodies to be quite lovely. I’m not planning on F*%$ing a chick anytime soon, but chicks are still hot! I totally see where Adam is coming from.

Man, this guy may piss off a big portion of the idol audience, but he is sssssoooooo right in there with they type of people on the scene today. Have you ever read a Lady Gaga interview? Or Kanye? Or Katy Perry? Yeah, I think if Adam releases the right song, he’s not going to have any problem whatsoever moving beyond idol. He’s going to dump that squeaky clean cheezy image but fast. :laugh_tb:

As ambivalent as I tend to be about him, this made me want to hear more.

I have not had time to read all the articles and comments (this is a working day), but for the quotes, I can see that Adam was open about his whole life. This will cause puritans to hate him, and liberal, open-minded people, like me, to love him even more

I am 50 plus, a hippy in the 60Â ´s and I know and lived many of the things he is talking about Now, I am a Full professor at a prestigious university, have children and grandchildren, but still a hippy in spirits.

So, GO ADAM! Your talent and personality will take you wherever you want. You are already an International STAR!

I must be totally blind. I just don’t get what is offensive in any way about the cover shot of Adam.

As for children…yup it is totally up the parents to decide what is too much information. But in my limited experience kids are an amazing lot. They process information totally different than adults do. They are not as easily “shocked” or “outraged” because they interprete information based on their own perspectives and not on all the extemporaneous stuff that most adults use as their filters.

Rolling Stone has always addressed itself to an open-minded more adult demographic. It is not and has never been “family” friendly. And this cover is nothing compared to the covers during the 70s….naked John Lennon ring a bell.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a little disappointed myself. In our family we like to say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shtuppingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  when we speak of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sticking it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢. Adam, didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t your grandmother teach you anything??? ROFL

Congratulations Adam for not pandering to overused and silly, useless euphemisms.

Where did I say he should use silly useless euphemisms? Maybe your family sits around talking about sticking it in there. I’m glad I’m not a child in your family if that’s the case. I was raised with some class. Sex is more than a mechanical act between a stick and a hole. But it can be degraded to whatever level one wants to degrade it to. Sex can be beautiful or it can be purely mechanical. There are hundreds of euphenisms and they serve a purpose. They can be erotic, suggestive, and otherwise appealing. But if people want to go around talking about sticking it in there, more power to them, but that’s not appealing to me.

I believe that! I am a straight female(married w/ toddler), but I find womenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s bodies to be quite lovely. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not planning on F*%$ing a chick anytime soon, but chicks are still hot! I totally see where Adam is coming from.

THIS. You can admire beauty even if you don’t act upon it.

Rolling Stone has always addressed itself to an open-minded more adult demographic. It is not and has never been à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“familyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  friendly. And this cover is nothing compared to the covers during the 70sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.naked John Lennon ring a bell.

I think the cover is tasteful and well done. The John and Yoko cover was the very first cover on rolling stone, as I recall, and I loved it then and still do. Yes it’s a magazine for adults.

I must be totally blind. I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get what is offensive in any way about the cover shot of Adam.

I agree. And maybe I’m too liberal of a mom, but my 6 and 8 year old already saw the cover on my computer screen this morning. My 8 year old just said, “Cool. It’s Adam.” My 6 year old said, “Is that a real snake? I hope it’s not poisonous,” and went back to playing Barbies.

wow. when i first learned that he was coming out in that magazine, i was like “lame”. we already know you were gay. but man, he made sure the magazine was WORTH BUYING. he was stripped down during the interview.

But if people want to go around talking about sticking it in there, more power to them, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not appealing to me.

I think that may be the whole point of that phrasing. It makes it very, very clear that he is not Bi and he isn’t going to have THAT question hounding him next. It obviously isn’t appealing to him either.

I think I’m just going to follow oceana around and high five her!

Yeah, I don’t have any problems with the language he uses – when I read “sticking it in” I didn’t think twice about it. But to each his own, definitely. Some will be offended, and that just comes with the territory.

That said, I agree with those who are just happy he’s true to himself, speaks his mind, goes against the AI machine (as I’ve always said about him all season!). That’s why A LOT of us loved him all season and voted for him – because he was so blatantly the anti-AI (subversive, daring, controversial, OTT, what have you). That’s what got him the EW cover story too. This is like the more “adult” (and personal) version of that article.

He’s not gonna win the most fans because of who he is (that’s, in part, why Kris won in the end) – but he’s all the better for it. Many of us WANT someone daring and bold and unconventional like this. So I hope he just keeps it real and follows it up with some great art (and I say art because I think he has the potential to really make an impact in music, performance, acting, etc.)

I agree. And maybe Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m too liberal of a mom, but my 6 and 8 year old already saw the cover on my computer screen this morning. My 8 year old just said, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Cool. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Adam.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  My 6 year old said, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Is that a real snake? I hope ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not poisonous,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and went back to playing Barbies.

Yeah. ITA The context of that cover photo will totally fly over the average kid’s head.

Now any pictures that might be inside the magazine, I’m not so sure. LOL.

Say what you want about Adam, but this guy sure is hilarious.

yeah 19 management like kris , but im pretty sure that hes getting someone that youll like to help him out

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that AI promotes themselves as a family show and then lets someone (who is still under their umbrella) make quotes like this that will be splashed all over the place. The picture doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn me off, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what comes out of his mouth.

I on the other hand think that every single Idol so far has been soooo boring with no back story, etc. Probably what has kept me from not watching the past couple of years. This guy is so interesting….

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a little disappointed myself. In our family we like to say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shtuppingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  when we speak of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sticking it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢. Adam, didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t your grandmother teach you anything??? ROFL

I love Adam, but yeah, that’s just vulgar. You wouldn’t want to hear a straight guy Idol, talking about how, he thought it was sexy all the girls clamoring for him and he would like to “stick it in there”.

Yeah. ITA The context of that cover photo will totally fly over the average kidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s head.

Now any pictures that might be inside the magazine, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not so sure. LOL.

I agree. They won’t be seeing the inside of the magazine. They can both read and while they know Adam is gay and what that means, they aren’t old enough for the content of the article.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2009/06/adam-lambert-to-rolling-stone-im-gay.html

some new quotes

while his dislikes include Nickelback and Creed.

oh thank god, even more reason to love him.

WOW!!! what a cover. Love it. He looks sooooo HOT

It is very conservative, I think. I was expecting something more provocative

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my problem with this cover. Granted ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s much nicer than the last issue with Lady Gah! I mean GaGa. Sorry, just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like her, Adam can sing!
Anywho, this will be coming to us through the mail. I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want my children to see it. Sorry. They (esp. my son – who loves rock) really enjoyed Adam during the season and they are already aware of his sexuality, but I feel as if they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t need to be exposed to this or other pictures inside – ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s too much imo.
No, they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t read the magazine, but the cover is the cover.

I hear your concern, however, RS is an adult-oriented magazine so … if you subscribe to it, you must be aware that some of the covers will be provocative? I guess if you have kids in the house, you have to keep the adult-themed material away from them.

I do understand the part about Idol being a family show, which families watch together, and Adam being more oriented towards adults. Actually I think I have mixed feelings about Idol even being a good show for kids, with its emphasis on competitiveness and manipulation. It’s true that when you have kids you have more things to think about. Does Idol advertise itself as a family show? I have to wonder, with the rap stars on the show lately. Good questions you bring up, things to ponder.

… pass the brownies….
TESS – love your comments

I love Adam, but yeah, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just vulgar. You wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to hear a straight guy Idol, talking about how, he thought it was sexy all the girls clamoring for him and he would like to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stick it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

But that’s a completely different context. To me there’s a big difference between a straight guy saying he’s hot for chicks and wants to “stick it in there” and what Adam said. So yeah, maybe it’s not that the words themselves would never bother me. It would depend on how they were used.

Sorry if this is a double post.

I love that he’s finally come out. Now the media will focus on his music, right?

I am a fan of Adam because I love love love his personality and his music. It’s not like if he is straight, I would have a better chance of being with him. hehe.

Anyway, i cant’ wait till the fall when he releases his debut album. It’s going to be crazy.

Love the cover and am in no way offended by anything.
Enthralled is more like it.
He speaks like a regular person in my circle and talks about drug experiences most in my circle have had.
The whole thing is perfection.

Here’s more to his female fans comment (from NY Post)–Ladies, there’s still hope, LOL:

Female attention:
“I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as I’m concerned, it’s all hot. Just because I’m not sticking it in there doesn’t mean that I don’t find it beautiful. Lately there’s part of me that’s almost bi-curious the other way around. I’ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I don’t know if it would ever happen, but I’m kind of interested.

The ancient Greeks (and plenty of other cultures at other times, as well, including, perhaps, our own) once admired young-man-on-young-man love beyond all loves. It was the man-on-female love that men tended to feel a bit squicky about, as I understand it.

Historically, the US has never been accepting of gays. Thankfully, things really seem to be changing — and it’s “only” been 40 years since the Stonewall riots.

There was a limited amount of progressive acceptance in NY and LA entertainment industry in the 1920′s (Cole Porter, George Gershwin, pre-code movies), but the US has been very hostle to homosexuality since the original settlements. For over 200 years, it was punishable by death in many states/colonies. Even Thomas Jefferson advocated emasculation as the penalty for homosexuality in his home state of Virginia, and even authored a bill to that effect — which did not pass. What he had in mind for lesbians was actually worse IMO.

The US was the only country to have have a gay civil rights riot — Stonewall — brought on by anti-gay police burtualty and destruction of gay clubs in NY. And the US was the last developed country to eliminate prison sentences for homosexual acts (2003 Supreme Count ruling outlawed these sentences in 24 states).

elephant1212 Jun 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

yeah 19 management like kris , but im pretty sure that hes getting someone that youll like to help him out

Well the only names I know that are related to 19M are Simon Fuller and possibly Simon COWELL. All other managers in that company I know nothing about.

For a close up of the cover of RS go here: http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=615144

I think Adam must have cared about Middle America more than people are admitting because he would have been this open from the get go if he REALLY didn’t care [ I don't know if AI has a muzzle on the contestants or what] but he cared long enough to see how far he could get in the competition, which is fine, it is a competition and yes he doesn’t want to be a political activist though in fact he is happily deriving notoriety from the questions about his sexuality, now he doesn’t need Middle America, which is also fine and true, so he may not give a f**k NOW.

Speaking of his music, if Missy E [who is da bomb IMO] is not available maybe her old partner in musical genius Mr. Timbaland is available. How much does he charge again though? Half a mill per song? Well when you sell 10 million copies it’s worth it huh.

Jersey — If Adam had actually said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shtuppingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  even my dead grandmothers would be LTAO!

I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.

Oh sweet Jesus, Adam, what are you trying to do to us?

*sigh*

I was HOPING he hadn’t done drugs, or at LEAST that he wouldn’t come clean about it. :-/ I mean, wow. Adam is one HONEST guy. I respect that, but he sure is gonna turn a lot of people off…

To be honest, I wish he’d waited until later in his career to talk about all of this. *sighs again* He’s going to turn a LOT of people off. On the other hand, those same people might not have bought his album in the first place, so who knows! I could be blowing everything out of proportion here.

Haha – someone doesn’t want their children to see the cover and I just taped a picture on my 17 year old daughter’s bedroom door so she sees it when she gets home!!

From the USA Today blog:

And I can’t even tell you the one thing he said he and Clay Aiken have in common.

I can guess!
That’s inappropriate!

I have not had time to read all the articles and comments (this is a working day), but for the quotes, I can see that Adam was open about his whole life. This will cause puritans to hate him, and liberal, open-minded people, like me, to love him even more

You know, there is a lot of gray area in between puritan and liberal. I’ve always been a liberal person but some things offend me. I really am annoyed with Adam fans who insinuate that anyone who doesn’t love every single thing he does or says is not liberal but must be a puritan. Being liberal and open-minded doesn’t necessarily mean that “anything goes” and “nothing offends me”.

Adam is provocative, that’s cool. But people here have expressed their feelings about various things he said. Some are concerned about the cover, some about the “stick it in there” vulgarity, some about the mention of drugs, and other things. To lump them all in together as “puritans” who “hate” Adam is extremely simplistic and unfair.

There’s nothing wrong with being a critical thinker, with examining and de-constructing words and pictures, that is all about being an open-minded and thinking person and not someone who glosses over things by saying “it’s all good” and “anything he does is just fine.”

By provoking people, Adam arouses discussion, and there’s no need to try to squelch the discussion by ridiculing people (as was done to me with the “didn’t your grandmother teach you anything” post) or labeling them puritans. If he didn’t want to inspire discussion, he would do safer things. I think he would enjoy discussion and not try to make it go away.

I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.

Holy Shit!

:lol_tb: :lol_tb: :lol_tb:

That right there proved to me that this kid is now officially the funniest, most shrewd, most openly manipulative American Idol contestant ever. I am not in the least bit attracted to this dude, though I don’t think he’s ugly. But I kinda want him to go get photographed making out with Lindsay Lohan or somebody now. That would be kinda hot. Heh.

Since Kris is with Jive and Adam with RCA that would imply right there they are going to have different teams working on their albums.

Though the musical direction Adam seems to be saying he is attracted to is actually better suited to Jive, I would have thought, however I haven’t looked at the whole RCA roster lately.

On the other hand that same type of music is even more popular in places like the UK, Europe and Asia and RCA may be better situated for that market.

And I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even tell you the one thing he said he and Clay Aiken have in common.

I can guess!
Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s inappropriate!

Clay’s reported bf is a ‘friend’ on Adam’s MySpace is he not? I wonder if Adam and Reed were more than ‘friends’ at one time? That would explain Clay’s nasty comments about Adam. The green-eyed monster is a nasty creature.

I love Adam, but yeah, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just vulgar. You wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to hear a straight guy Idol, talking about how, he thought it was sexy all the girls clamoring for him and he would like to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stick it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

I agree. There’s candid, and then there’s “Wow, would you mind rephrasing that, please?”

I’m sure people would do a double take of during his season, Constantine said that he wanted Carrie to give him a BJ

I love Adam, but yeah, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just vulgar. You wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to hear a straight guy Idol, talking about how, he thought it was sexy all the girls clamoring for him and he would like to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stick it in thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Yeah I think some people here might not like it if a guy came up to them and asked “can I stick it in there?” They might find it a bit crude.

Female attention:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.”

Must admit it sounds a lot better with the entire quote —

Plus, many of my West LA friends use this exact express when talking about both men and women. Perhaps, I’ve become blase about everything, but it sure takes a lot more than that to offend me.

BYW — “Adam Lambert Rolling Stone” in #28 on Google Hot List. And the story is #4 on Yahoo!News (#1 online news site). So not a bad PR day!

Someone said they worried how Kris would act around Adam after his remarks. Well, I do have some gay girl friends and they kid with me and say stuff like you are hott or whatever, just kidding around and they know I am straight and married with children but it is just kidding around and we love each other, no one crosses that line. I would bet a million bucks he has a relationship like that with Kris already and Kris and he will be and already are just fine, as well as Kris’s wife Katie

“”"Haha – someone doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want their children to see the cover and I just taped a picture on my 17 year old daughterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s bedroom door so she sees it when she gets home!!”"”

I know I will share with my children if they dont tell me about it first, they know how much I love Adam – the thing is, you cannot raise children in a bubble and what I do is discuss, share, tell all so that when out in that big world on their own they will know – who – what and where already. They wont be just thrown out there to experiment, falter and fail like so many kids I have known in my past. My best friend, in the world, was the ministers daughter, she was not allowed to watch this, look at that, do this – so – when she got out on her own, she knew nothing of the real world and went WAY out of her way to prove she wasnt a goodie two shoes – so I believe in moderation, yes, but knowledge and discussion and sharing – most definitely yes. Limits – of course

I do understand the part about Idol being a family show, which families watch together, and Adam being more oriented towards adults.

Well, this is the guy who gave us Whole Lotta Love (btw, told a non-AI watcher that a contestant sang this song, and he couldn’t believe he got away with it :wink_wp: ), and RoF – even on stage Adam tried to show enough of who he really was, and definitely pushed the AI “family-oriented” envelope in the process.

I just looked back at some old vids of Chris Daughtry on Idol, and had to compare what was so “daring” (well, by AI standards) back then, to what Adam brought every week. I can’t imagine AI will ever be the same after Adam!

I try to live my life as honestly as possible, so I have to adore Adam even more for his candor. Why dance around a topic? Say what you think and move on. Love him.

Thank you for the comprehensive post, mj.

He’s like the Martin Luther King, Jr. of gay people. Milk it Adam. Without it, I doubt you’d have gotten the cover.

If you want to hear crude- listen to an bunch of 16 year old boys in the basement- actually,
girls give them a run for the money.

Adam is my role model- everything about him is HOT x 182739292

I believe one of the Rolling Stones writers has already written a article saying that Adam has destroyed Idol, but she meant it in a good way.

Personally I yearn for a Rockstar type show or American’s Next Great Band type of show, which was a Simon Fuller produced summer show to watch instead of Idol. A show where artists get to showcase writing chops/originality.

Yeah I think some people here might not like it if a guy came up to them and asked à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“can I stick it in there?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  They might find it a bit crude.

Of course they would. But that’s not what Adam said. He didn’t lean across the table and ask the reporter if he could “stick it in there.” Those who consider what Adam said offensive have a valid viewpoint. But they don’t help their own position by misconstruing what he said.

I didn’t think it was possible to love Adam Lambert even more but I do. He’s seems like a really cool guy. Love that guy!

More quotes in the NY Post article: http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/archives/2009/06/adam_lambert_im_gay.html

To be honest, I wish heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d waited until later in his career to talk about all of this. *sighs again* Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to turn a LOT of people off. On the other hand, those same people might not have bought his album in the first place, so who knows! I could be blowing everything out of proportion here.

He could be trying to reach a completely different crowd through Rolling Stone. And perhaps he is also trying to shed the “American Idol” label. I love the show, but same as Disney, it’s not exactly the hippest thing to be attached to your name.

but he cared long enough to see how far he could get in the competition

Adam, IMHO, has been nothing but truthful during his AI experience. After his considered OTT Ring of Fire performance he seemed to re-evaluate his projected path on American Idol. Based on his interview comments and his confessionals he decided to pull it back (using advise from people he trusted like his Mom) to not “overly” offend some of the voting public. His goal was to make it as far as he could because he knew the longer he stayed on AI the more recognition he was going to get.

Calculated…you bet. Dishonest, no way. He never “hid” anything, he just dialed it back to be more palpable for the average viewer. And, bless his little heart, he got what he was working towards. Now he has the opportunity to be who he is and to do it before he creates an album. In this way he isn’t being disrespectful to the music buying public. Now they know who he is and they can make the judgment to spend money on him or not.

I on the other hand think that every single Idol so far has been soooo boring with no back story, etc. Probably what has kept me from not watching the past couple of years. This guy is so interestingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Agreed. He may be the first contestant who has ever interested me as much by his performances/musical ability, as for his personality off stage. My previous favs were Daughtry and Cook, and I loved Daughtry on stage, but thought off stage he was not quite as magentic or interesting (didn’t smile enough, not as savvy with the press, etc.). Cook was great in interviews, but still a much more “normal kind of guy”. Adam is a whole other level of “wth did I just hear, see, think, feel” watching this guy both on and off stage.

Historically, the US has never been accepting of gays. Thankfully, things really seem to be changing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“onlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  been 40 years since the Stonewall riots.

Absolutely true. But European culture generally and even some people here in the 19th century, especially, took a very sentimental view of young male friendships, with very ardent poetry-writing and inseparableness going back and forth! Now, this may have all been in the closet for those folks — and few may have actually practiced mutual pleasuring or what-not… But there’s some reason to think that quite a few did, as well. After all, a boy’s got to do something while he waits for a girl to come along to bundle, and many young-male friendships through history have been *very* close intellectually and emotionally! So, yeah, this country has cracked down on it legally, and denied it. … But doing it kind of comes natural to many folks, nevertheless. Hence the stories about the young Lincoln and a friend. And so on….

Just sayin’

Lol

I love the “bi-curious” stuff. LOL. I bet Kris, Katy and Adam had a big laugh over this. Remember, they are all very close, and they understand Adam and his “honesty”. (unfiltered mouth) Kriss would think it is funny, but I don’t know how the other Idols (Gokey and Sarver) will take it.

Bottom line. Adam is one of a kind. He is the guy that you’ll want to read what he says, and hear what he sings. You WILL want to continue to check him out. You don’t have to love him, or everything about him but he is a compelling figure. (Are really, are there this many people who have never tried drugs? Adam talked about just now having self confidence. Didn’t most people see that he’s had a lot to struggle with and thought that he probably experienced with a lot of stuff? His life has been a journey. A tougher one than most people. I think he’s going to have a lot to write about)

I would bet a million bucks he has a relationship like that with Kris already and Kris and he will be and already are just fine, as well as Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s wife Katie

Er….speaking as a guy, NO. My gay friends and I don’t joke around about being attracted to one another. I can’t speak for every straight guy in the world but that definitely doesn’t happen with me.

The twist is that some of my straight friends and I joke about that kinda of stuff, though. lol

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. I’m pretty sure I’d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his “type”.

ETA: I’m just now remembering when one of my gay friends called me “cutie”. I was really taken aback.

Adam is gay? Wow – what a shocker. If I were Adam, I wouldn’t be so concerned with coming out as much as I would be concerned that the press (and perhaps even Adam himself) is choosing to focus on that issue along with various superficial BS, as opposed to music. Last year’s headlines were all about music and originality, and breaking records etc. This year it seems to be focused on lifestlye choices and very little else. He better start redirecting the focus or his 15 minutes of fame will be over and he will be remembered for everything but his talent. I feel he is so hungry for fame, that everything else is secondary right now. Take control Adam and soon. Bring it back to the music.

The guy needs to have a filter where certain things are concerned. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry but à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹real peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk that way not in the public eye anyhow. I guess if you like graphic talk ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cool to you but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be to everyone. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still new at all this. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no doubt expecting some backlash à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. and he will get it. Hopefully he learns from it and carries on.

I doubt if he’s worried. He said he likes himself and that is him. When he says he wants to be an inspiration to kids who are different and tell them it’s okay, I don’t think that is going to kill the deal. He has a great message, he backs it up by his actions and he has a wicked sense of humor. How can you show kids that it’s okay to be yourself if the persona you’re putting out there isn’t yourself?

I also doubt if the fans he is going after would be shocked by any such statement. His target audience is not the soccer moms and grannies (although I’m sure there are a few out there.) For the weak at heart, there’s Kris, Gokay and Sarver to choose from.

FWIW, every season I’ve seen women who have an obsession (me included) with one of the idols and even though they love him (or her) it’s a never ending cycle of constructive criticism. Wear your seat belt. Stop smoking. Get some rest. Gain weight. Lose weight. Eat better. Stop drinking. Don’t do drugs. Get a body guard. Don’t date her. Don’t date him. Don’t cuss. Don’t drink in public, don’t cuss in public, wear your seat belt in public, don’t smoke in public – you’ll lose fans!

If the object of obsession actually took all of this advice to heed, they would go insane! I think Adam has the best attitude, “Love me or leave me.”

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like the Martin Luther King, Jr. of gay people. Milk it Adam. Without it, I doubt youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have gotten the cover.

Actually, I don’t know how you separate out parts of a person like that. Adam is who he is and, from the parts of the article that I have already read, he seems comfortable with himself now, but that it was a completely easy path.

And Adam is not the MLK of gay people — and he clearly doesn’t want the title. I think a more apt example might be Jackie Robinson, who not only made news by breaking major league baseball’s color line, but was an outstanding ball player. And he also didn’t want to lead a civil rights movement — he just wanted to play baseball.

Adam is on the cover of RS because he is interesting, talented and has cultural importance. Not just because he is gay.

Well Europeans have always been more evolved in the area of sexuality but they have their own issues when it comes to ethnicity and race and religion. They are not always as liberal as they like to brag to North Americans.

Don’t forget America is a young country in comparison that was founded primarily by puritans who escaped religious persecution in Europe.

However I think the majority of Americans are far more evolved than they are given credit for.

Ok. Some say that AI is a family show. So it was more of getting a cookie-cutter singer where majority can identify with. I agree. Then comes Season 8….Adam unexpectedly came in shaking up the competition and reminded everyone that the show is about finding a star and a singing talent competition with all else being equal. True, in a way, Adam ruined American Idol….but in a good way. AI has trascended from a family show to a socially oriented reality show.

I like Adam’s personality, and the way he’s come across in the pieces of the article that are available.

I wish that the acceptance he promotes in people could be extended to others in the public eye, and in the Idolverse. It would make me happy if followers of Idol could be as generous to all of the contestants as they are to Adam.

Adam loves Kris Allen…Adam has great taste in guys and is probably one of Kris’s biggest supporters.

How cute.

Female attention:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Must admit it sounds a lot better with the entire quote à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 

Nice. Also very smart.

oceana.
When I said that puritans would hate him, I was not referring to any previous comment because I had not read them. It was a general comment not directed to anyone.

Regarding the phrase that now I see everybody is mentioning, when I read it, I did not get the mental picture most of you got. I thought he meant that since he did not like girls… Maybe because English is not my native language, I did not get it or I don ´t have a dirty mind

Love, peace and rock & roll

Plus, many of my West LA friends use this exact express when talking about both men and women. Perhaps, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve become blase about everything, but it sure takes a lot more than that to offend me.

Same here. I am a 46 year old mother. I use to be in my 20s, I have kids that age, you know how they talk…it actually made me laugh hard. I told what he said to my husband and he thought it was hilarious too.
He is so unfiltered, its refreshing.

American Idol has a squeaky clean bland pop image. I know people who refuse to watch it because they say its ruined the music industry. Its just not cool. Adam transcended that image by his outrageous performances that captured a large NON- AI audience. RoF….Whole Lotta Love. Losing to Kris, gave him more cred, imo. I also feel this article will make him more of a star because of its edginess.
So when some say he will lose fans, I think he will actually gain a new audience.

Does Wal Mart carry Rolling Stone? Cause being open 24 hrs, could I get it at midnight tommorrow??? One can hope.

“Adam Lambert Rolling Stone” just hit #10 Hot Trends on Google — “spicy”.
I’m still hoping it hits “volcanic”.

“Drake LaBry” is back on at #22.

“Brad Bell” is on at #93.

Somehow, I think that is going to be a story for a while.

Offensive? Yes. Turn-off? Yes. Sorry to see Adam wallowing in this type of filth in order to sell records.

Adam’s very talented. I don’t hate him, but its sad to see him cheapen himself like so many before him. Pushing everyone’s boundaries and buttons is fun for a while, but it is a self destructive road in the end. So he’s gay, big deal, so are alot of others. So he’s graphic and crude, and a flashy dresser…. typical Hollywood stuff.

Ultimately his music will set him apart …I wish him the best with that.

I love the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“bi-curiousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  stuff. LOL. I bet Kris, Katy and Adam had a big laugh over this. Remember, they are all very close, and they understand Adam and his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“honestyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . (unfiltered mouth) Kriss would think it is funny, but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how the other Idols (Gokey and Sarver) will take it.

I would just love to get a peak at some candid moments between Kris, Katy, and Adam! What a cool group!

“But if people want to go around talking about sticking it in there, more power to them, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not appealing to me.”

- I understand where you are coming from. I, too, am brought up where sex is sacred and we should not be talking that way. But I don’t find it offensive because there are just some people different and has their own ways of expressing themselves. Maybe shocking but it’s just being true to themselves.

There is always going to be a large number of people who will pay to see what is behind the curtain at the freak show.

FWIW, every season Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen women who have an obsession (me included) with one of the idols and even though they love him (or her) ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a never ending cycle of constructive criticism. Wear your seat belt. Stop smoking. Get some rest. Gain weight. Lose weight. Eat better. Stop drinking. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do drugs. Get a body guard. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t date her. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t date him. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t cuss. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t drink in public, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t cuss in public, wear your seat belt in public, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t smoke in public – youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll lose fans!

Oh man. That is totally true. The “mothering” of American Idol contestants is something to behold. And the idolizing. God forbid they show any vaguely negative human trait… there are people’s whose heads explode at the thought. I guess its all an outgrowth of the family show aspect of things… but its still a tad weird. That is the one of the things about popular idol contestants that have nothing to do with the larger music world. AI is pretty good a getting charismatic people with good voices a nice sized fanbase. But the whole “role model” aspect of it can actually work against you depending on your genre.

Adam is doing a pretty good job of crafting himself as the anti-idol in that respect. He’s certainly not coming across as anyone’s paragon of virtue. The hard part is crafting music that follows through on this “unpredictable, exciting, daring, keep you guessing, openly sexual” brand he’s got going. While working with the traditionally conservative idol people. In three months. With minimal time to experiment. While on tour. Yeah… good luck with that! I kinda hope he pulls it off.

Gee how hilarious, the ad on the top of the page is for Gay Cruises….bwah.

” If I were Adam, I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be so concerned with coming out as much as I would be concerned that the press (and perhaps even Adam himself) is choosing to focus on that issue along with various superficial BS, as opposed to music. Last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s headlines were all about music and originality, and breaking records etc. This year it seems to be focused on lifestlye choices and very little else.”

Adam said many times that he wanted to focus on music but all paps and press keep talking about his private life. Is this what he wants? No! Last year most AI headlines were about music as the contestants are not interesting (no offence). Without these “superficicial BS” , does it mean idols make exciting music? NO! albums were as lame as previous!

Anyway, really looking forward to hearing new songs from Adam, Kris and Allison. All good music are appreciated.

Oh well, I’m relieved that I wasn’t the only fan taken aback at Adam’s terminology (“stickin’ it in”).

I appreciate the commenters who have pointed out that his remark is probably in tune with Rolling Stone’s usual style and will appeal to its readership, which is vastly diferent from American Idol viewership. This being so, it’s more evidence of Adam’s undeniably shrewd business savvy-ness.

I also wonder if, in being so revealing in the article as a whole, he’s relishing being able to get back at the Kiss guy (was it Gene Sommons?) who said that Adam isn’t really true Rock material (based on AI showing, I guess).

I’d still like to think that there’s that humble, polite, classy guy underneath the rest of it – maybe it’s just my wishful thinking. Maybe I’ve climbed upon the wrong bandwagon. Hope not!

His first album will be the acid test, what he says and how he expresses himself then is what’s really important.

and other superficicial BS as opposed to the music.

I can look at a lot of American Idol alums and I know that it isn’t the music that is keeping them in the spotlight. Some freshman albums have been pretty mediocre at best and haven’t gotten a lot of positive reviews. But the Artists are still out there plugging away….and working damn hard on keeping some media focus on them.

It would be nice if “music” was the ultimate focus, but that isn’t human nature. I would guess that 50% of the music buying public buys due to name recognition while the other 50% buys because they have heard a song and want to hear it again (and if someone has true figures on this post away). That is why it is so important to have fans…that way you have a built in purchasing demographic…and that is the premise of American Idol. But unless someone can get their name out in front of the public they can’t develop name recognition.

Any singer needs to use the ammunition they have, and for Adam his sexuality and the issues surrounding it are part of his ammunition. If I wanted name recognition I would be beating the bushes to come up with ways of getting people to know who I am, there is nothing shameful about that.

Well, I respect the opinions of people who find some of what he says offensive. That’s the way it goes. I agree it doesn’t make someone puritanical or ultra-conservative just because they don’t appreciate Adam’s …..er.. “candidness.

At the same time, as I said yesterday, RS interviews are pretty much infamous for bringing out the completely uncensored side of the interviewee. It’s almost like they’re free associating. Basically, what you read in that article is Adam. So, now is as good a time as any to decide if you like the real Adam or not. (I guess it’s not really just about the music, after all.)

I love the RS cover. Adam is smokin hot!!! The video behind the scenes was just awesome. I love the interview (what I’ve seen) and I’m not shocked at all. Lots of it was funny and so candid! I love that about Adam. I’ve spent so much time looking at everything “Adam” outisde of AI, that not one thing about this is surprising or offensive to me. I can’t wait to see him sing during the Idol tour.

Does Wal Mart carry Rolling Stone? Cause being open 24 hrs, could I get it at midnight tommorrow??? One can hope.

Yes, they have it but not in all stores. Not in my Wal-Marts — but I’m in rural Mississippi.

I love this Adam quote:

“I was worried that [coming out] would be so sensationalized that it would overshadow what I was there to do, which was sing. I’m an entertainer, and who I am and what I do in my personal life is a separate thing. It shouldn’t matter,” he says.

LOL, yeah I knew my post would sound prudish to some. I’m not pissed off or shocked, just sad, that’s all. John Lennon wasn’t on AI. He was already an icon when he was on RS too.

Frankly, if Adam can break away from what AI seems to do to some artists more power to him. But the fact remains that he was on AI and that’s where his career got it’s start.

I don’t see Kris as being for the faint of heart. lol. I’m sure he knew everything Adam said/thought ahead of time.

Cakenbake Jun 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

Adam loves Kris Allenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Adam has great taste in guys and is probably one of Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s biggest supporters.

How cute.

ITA! LOL, the world seems to be enamored w/Adam right now, maybe they should be paying attention to who Adam seems to be enamored with.

Lambert is fucking awesome.

And I highly doubt Adam’s will be the exception.

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“typeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

I bet that he was just taken back for a bit and then fine and kind of flattered. I discovered that a lesbian friend of mine was attracted to me (I’m straight). I was really surprised by it, then slightly weirded out because it was so foreign, and then of course just flattered and kind of happy to know that someone found me special in that way, even if I couldn’t feel the same way. It is weird though–when a guy is attracted to me, I either am attracted or not. When it was a woman, I was attracted because I like her and we’re friends etc, and I wasn’t unattracted–it was more like having a dimension of human attraction being dead to me or numb or unavailable to me.

edit: don’t lecture or tell people what to think. stick to expressing your opinion on the topic

“”"Erà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.speaking as a guy, NO. My gay friends and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t joke around about being attracted to one another. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t speak for every straight guy in the world but that definitely doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t happen with me.”"”

Oh yes they do, I have both gay boy friends and girls, my family runs a ballet here, so maybe that is why I am around it more, NO just because a guy dances does not mean he is gay, but I digress – yes they do kid around with their straight friends. My beautiful son Christian, straight as an arrow, has kids in school hit on him and he kids it away, he is very secure in himself at only 15. If a child or a man comes off with fear about that sort of thing, which is ok, everyone reacts the way they do and I sure cannot judge, but if, as Adam said Kris is liberal and open minded then Kris can handle himself with the way Adam is and that is why they are such close friends and why I dont think that Adams remarks will shock or put off Kris in any way shape or form. A gay man or woman just learns to gauge what you can or cannot say to a certain person, how that person will react. It is sure not an easy life for someone who is gay so they do have to learn this, that is why I am so glad that people have become so much more receptive of just accepting people for who they are, as long as they dont hurt YOU why should you hurt them?

OMG! Loving that cover!

The snake and the butterfly both heading right to his penis. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not subtle, eh?

Nope, not subtle, but then again, it suits him…

I am going to purchase a RS magazine for the first time in my life.

HOLY CRAP….. I’m dead!!!!!!!!

I’m loving every second of this. That cover? Absolutely, absolutely epic! I’m gay so I’m not into guys, but I understand perfectly what he says, you cannot deny beauty when you see it. And this man is beautiful. Is that actually a black mamba?

People: this guy does not have a filter. He is what he is. In a big way and without an apology. I have more respect for him now than ever. I wish society would be a little more accepting of people like Adam and a little bit demanding of double-moral standards. The don’t ask don’t tell philosophy is old and sickening. Adam was blessed to have parents like Layla(?) and Ebert. If more children like Adam and me had parents like that, there wouldn’t be a need for organizations such as the Trevor Project (who helps young gay kids and teenagers at the edge of committing suicide).

Personally, I’m not shocked at all with the drug information, it does not shock me, living in L.A. and for what he had said before about the Europe tour, it does not surprise me at all.

But I’ll have to admit that I’m happy to know that he is not into drag, for many reasons, mainly, I don’t think the look does him any favors.

The one think that surprised me a bit was the Kris Allen crush information, I wonder if Kris is aware of this! I’m gonna leave it at that.

This article for sure will separate real Adam fans from the insensitive people in denial, I’m glad I won’t have to read another “HE IS BI” comment again.

Having being a big, big fan on my teenage years of another gay man (Darren Hayes) who was in a closet for many years, and actually, prohibited his fans to even dare to talk about his sexuality in any shape or form, this is extremely refreshing.

I can’t wait to have this magazine in my hands. Luckily, in my country the RS numbers from the USA are a bit pricey and they tend to stay on the shelves.

I’m proud of being an Adam fan. I’m gonna say it again, this world needs more honesty like this when it comes to our human nature and less double standards.

I can’t wait for your music Mr. Lambert!

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see Kris as being for the faint of heart. lol. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he knew everything Adam said/thought ahead of time.

I don’t think even Adam knows some of the things that he says ahead of time. That’s why his interviews are so much fun. Sometimes you can even see him laugh with surprise at something he just said. (And I really don’t think he’s that great an actor.)

Some of the best music out there gets little or no radioplay – some of those artists are out there trying to play the game whilst being true to their vision and hoping for a break, some develop kick ass live shows in the meantime, and make their name that way and other artists just made a decision long ago that they would remain true to their music as long as they could make a living and if others eventually caught on, that’s fine too. Those are the true musical heroes.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ”Erà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.speaking as a guy, NO. My gay friends and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t joke around about being attracted to one another. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t speak for every straight guy in the world but that definitely doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t happen with me.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ”à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Just based on my own experience, my gay friends really try to only joke with straight men who they perceive are comfortable with “gayness”. It seems to be a lot easier for them to be more open with their straight women friends.

I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.

Hrrrmmm…oh Adam what are you doing? I don’t know if he means this (I assume he does b/c he is so honest) but damn he knows how to tease the ladies.

Meanwhile, I may be taking a trip to L.A. since Adam has admitted to making out w/women in clubs while drunk…maybe it makes me trashy, but that sounds like nirvana to me.

He better start redirecting the focus or his 15 minutes of fame will be over and he will be remembered for everything but his talent. I feel he is so hungry for fame, that everything else is secondary right now. Take control Adam and soon. Bring it back to the music.

This is why I thought this all wasn’t such a great idea so early on. It’s never going to end. It will always be about his personal life now and not the music. I pray I’m wrong but I don’t have a good feeling about it. I hope this interview is it and from now on the question is banned from any of his future interviews. He needn’t say any more about it.

As for Kris, I doubt Adam would tarnish their friendship by making comments such as he did without Kris knowing about them. It says a lot about Kris’ character and his confidence in himself that he would know this of Adam yet still be comfortable enough to be his friend in such a demonstrative manner.

To be honest, I wish heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d waited until later in his career to talk about all of this. *sighs again* Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to turn a LOT of people off. On the other hand, those same people might not have bought his album in the first place, so who knows! I could be blowing everything out of proportion here.

But now it is all out there- no “secret drug party” surprises later on.
I think it was masterful to tell all in one fell swoop.

And the bi-curious/interested thing just absofreakinglutely made my year.
YEAR!!!

Man, he playing the game brilliantly!

This man is just so sexy.

Sometimes you can even see him laugh with surprise at something he just said.

I LOVE it when this happens.

**WARNING** **WARNING** **FANGURLY MOMENT APPROACHING**

He smiles so hard his eyes squinch up and his body rocks with laughter. Like in the “I like the top” video. That still cracks me up.

I doubt Kris finds that comment that big of a deal since Adam has a boyfriend. I’m thinking that Kris already knew what Adam had said since I heard/read somewhere that they talk/text everyday. Also, who wouldn’t have a crush on Kris? hehe

Hurricane Adam has just be upgraded to a Category 5.

Seriously, this guy is a publicity machine. Someone out there a 19 exec is rolling on the floor laughing and rubbing his hands in glee.

As Joe Levy said on the Today Show this am, Adam is acting very shrewdly by putting it all out there now…sex –check, drugs– check…now no one will be coming out of the woodwork saying they saw his do drugs or whatever because he has already put it out there himself….this story will die down over the summer and when the album comes out in the fall the focus will be on his career not his personal like (altho, like every famous musician, his personal life will always be part of the discussion)

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“typeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Somehow I don’t see Adam as some sort of sexual predator out to turn straight men gay, especially those he classes as friends and where he’s obviously friends with the person’s wife too. Seeing as Adam seems very upfront about things I’m sure he’s already told Kris that he finds him attractive and if there was any initial awkwardness I’m sure that’s gone and they joke about it .. just look at the video about Adam preferring the top .. Kris seemed to enjoy that joke just as much as Adam did .. plus from what I’ve seen, Kris doesnt seem the slightest bit uncomfortable about hugging Adam .. look at the way he grabbed him from behind for a hug in that press conference just after the finale.

To me it seems that both Adam and Kris are comfortable in their own skin about who they are so I don’t see any problems … so saying that I bet Gokey and Sarver are the one’s sitting at the back of the bus making up rhymes along the lines of “Adam and Kris, sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g” …lol

It would have been hilarious if Adam had said in that interview that he was attracted to Gokey or Sarver .. just to put the fear of god into them for the tour …lol

Adam and Kris say they are very close. Kris knows Adam’s unfiltered mouth. I think they all had a big laugh over it. What I do love about Kris is that he is so unbothered by crap. If Adam had a crush on him in the beginning, it clearly evolved into a very close friendship. Kris knows that now. Adam was just explaining his initial feelings. Both of them are so beyond that. I doubt Kris would be surprised at anything that came out of Adam’s mouth! (Feeling confident that Kris will laugh about this, makes me realize how much I do like Kris. He’s very cool. I wonder how some of his fans are feeling now that Adam revealed Kris is liberal)

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“typeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

I’d be willing to bet that Adam and Kris discussed this a long time ago and had a really good laugh!

But now it is all out there- no à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“secret drug partyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  surprises later on.
I think it was masterful to tell all in one fell swoop.

And the bi-curious/interested thing just absofreakinglutely made my year.
YEAR!!!

Man, he playing the game brilliantly!

THIS! I don’t think he could have done this interview any better. It’s all out on the table, every single question answered. Fans can re-read the article over and over again for the parts they like (there is a little something for everyone). And now if any reporters ask him questions in the future, he can just refer them to the Rolling Stone article.

Now the focus will be on the music. Soon we will be getting the reviews from the tours, then the album. Awesome PR. Well played 19 and Adam, well played.

Actually maintaining some mystery is also good and doling it out gradually keeps up the interest.

Because sometimes you make it hard for you to top yourself.

Just saying.

After all he is at least six months away from an album.

Erà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.speaking as a guy, NO. My gay friends and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t joke around about being attracted to one another. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t speak for every straight guy in the world but that definitely doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t happen with me.

I don’t see a huge difference between that and when straight guys joke around in a more sexual manner with their platonic girl friends. Happens all the time.

It’s actually is probably flattering to Kris. Just my opinion though.

Meanwhile, I may be taking a trip to L.A. since Adam has admitted to making out w/women in clubs while drunkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦maybe it makes me trashy, but that sounds like nirvana to me.

Maybe we can get a group rate. Oh wait, my husband might object…

Actually mystery is good and doling it out gradually keeps up the interest.

Just saying.

But there is still mystery. The mystery now will be, what will his album sound like? What is he going to do on stage? What is he wearing?

edit: dial it back. knock off the lecture

I didn’t really read into Adams comments about Kris that he had a “crush” on him… I must be dense…

But now it is all out there- no à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“secret drug partyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  surprises later on.
I think it was masterful to tell all in one fell swoop.

And the bi-curious/interested thing just absofreakinglutely made my year.
YEAR!!!

Man, he playing the game brilliantly!

I second this. I think this was brilliantly played.

And I bet Kris is probably flattered by Adam’s comments about him.

As Joe Levy said on the Today Show this am, Adam is acting very shrewdly by putting it all out there nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦sex à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’check, drugsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ checkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦now no one will be coming out of the woodwork saying they saw his do drugs or whatever because he has already put it out there himselfà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.this story will die down over the summer and when the album comes out in the fall the focus will be on his career not his personal like (altho, like every famous musician, his personal life will always be part of the discussion)

^^THIS. Adam is controlling the conversation. He’s scooping the world before people can start dishing about his past. And he’s stirring people up by being slightly shocking without crossing over into outright offensive territory (I realize this varies…as some of us aren’t shocked at all and others are offended, but I’m talking in general). Anyway, I think the boy is brilliant and he’s handling all this as well, and as shrewdly, as anyone could.

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“typeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

The one think that surprised me a bit was the Kris Allen crush information, I wonder if Kris is aware of this! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gonna leave it at that.

I would bet money Adam and Kris have already talked about this a long time ago, that they probably joke about it, and that both of them are cool with it. (See the US video, Adam: “I like the top.” Laughter ensues. Etc.)

I mean, it’s just attraction, it’s normal. Some straight guys might freak about it, but Kris? I seriously doubt it.

These guys both come across to me as straight-shooters, meaning: real, not a lot of b.s., either of them. The way they act relaxed and comfortable with each other says to me they aren’t holding a lot back.

I could give a shit about the fact that he’s gay. What I have a MAJOR problem is that he acknowledges hardcore drug use and, it appears, does not take a stance of condemnation.

I think I just went from intensely disliking the Lambert hype to intensely disliking Lambert himself. And I’m shocked if 19 isn’t going to try to suppress this interview.

Too many young people have been lost and too many families and relationships of all types destroyed for someone in his position to take anything but a condemning attitude toward any illegal drug use above the level of pot.

All I can say is that, it’s a damn good thing he’s not the Idol. Like it or not, the Idol is a role model. I think at this point in human history, the majority of us could accept that a gay man could be a role model. But, someone who admits to the use of hard drugs and doesn’t repudiate it is no role model at all.

I believe that this interview damaged him. And, frankly, I look forward to watching his career go down in flames before it starts.

edit: don’t question or assume poster’s motives

Sorry, I find this a total turn off. I’m glad he didn’t win.

I think he looks fantastic. And I have to say, while I didn’t love all his performances or his vocal stylings (high register wailing) I really like Adam Lambert – the person. He seems really comfortable in his own skin, real and pleasingly snarky.

Actually maintaining some mystery is also good and doling it out gradually keeps up the interest.

Because sometimes you make it hard for you to top yourself.

Just saying.

After all he is at least six months away from an album.

That’s a legit strategy, but I don’t think what they are doing here is bad for Adam. He is clearly trying to strike while the iron is hit and define himself in the public mind, quickly and boldly. There is no guarantee anyone will be talking about him in 6 months. So before anyone else has a chance to assign him an identity, he did it himself while all eyes were still on him. Now he’s known as 1. unpredictable 2. controversial 3. brutally honest 4. not squeaky clean. He’s image is edgier closer to what it needed to be for the type of music he wants to make. Think what happened with Sarah Palin. Saturday Night Live gave her an identity before she could. That didn’t work out too well. LOL.

So, if there were a picture of Kris on the cover of RollingStone with a bright green snake about to bite his penis, would there be almost 300 comments in the thread were MJ presents the picture/article to us.

Hmmmm . . . . thinking . . . .

Yes.

“And I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even tell you the one thing he said he and Clay Aiken have in common”

Does it involve sleeping in the top bunk while on tour? I’m not sure I’d use humble and classy as words to describe Adam after that interview.

Although, he may be for all I know. I guess I’m just surprised that RS put someone’s who’s a reality TV contestant on it’s cover. I mean has Kelly Clarkson been on their cover? She might deserve it more than Adam at this point in his “career.”

Adam’s comments about Kris may make sharing the boy’s bus on the tour more uncomfortable for everyone. I think it was TMI myself.

Who know the AI tour will afford so many opportunities for shower jokes.

Loved his description about Idol here:

It is so pageant. That’s why it’s hard for people like Allison [Iraheta], who won’t stand there and smile, say when they want her to say. I was on my best behavior, but it wasn’t fake: That really was my best self.

So freaking true…and I love him and Allison for that

Now the focus will be on the music

That’s where it should have remained all along. I still think this interview is going to bite him.

As lightly as some seem to take it, the drug issue is a biggy. I hope he at least talks about that further in the future because honestly it is of great concern to me. Drugs should not be taken lightly and he gives the impression that they’re no big deal. Well, they are a big deal and there is nothing cute or amusing about them.

finally! cannot wait to read the entire article…..but i am bracing myself for fan backlash. saw quickly that the posters on ew.com were quite supporting, not so much at usatoday. I wonder if that’s a diff btw idol/entertainment followers vs everyday folk?

Some random thoughts:

Adam looks hawt on the cover.

Hoping he keeps that “bi-curiosity” in mind if we cross paths one of these nights

I actually admire him for saying he’s not into cocaine. I cannot describe my hatred for this drug. For some reason, I find weed and x less offensive (they are mellow, hippie drugs….coke makes people aggressive/egotistical…ugh)

The fact that he had an epiphany at burning man makes me love him more. For those who have never had the pleasure of attending, I say try it just one time. It is a beautiful gathering of laid back, loving, creative folks. And as a woman, its refreshing to walk around at night w.out fear of the opposite sex. I really get a sense of the type person adam is from his experience at the festival….and thus I can relate to him more.

I cannot wait for his album….hope he gets to achieve everything he has set in his mind. he doesn’t strike me as one to compromise, but record labels are in charge at the end of the day.

Kris crush? Adam is no dummy! LOL I love how “100% straight” Kris can be so loving towards Adam (the constant hugging, that natural laugh at the “I like the top” joke, the endless quotes of support…..) without the worry of what others would say or gossip.

As someone mentioned earlier….big applause to America for picking the most deserving guys (in terms of talent, personality, looks, heart)to finish on top this season.

Season 10 has some pretty big shoes to fill…..

(ok, running out in 5 min to stalk my local newstand…they tend to get copies a day or so earlier than other locations. i know this bc of my recent RPatz freakout over the April issue :blush_tb:)

I liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like “shrewd,” “f**king brilliant,” “guy knows how to play the game?”

In an obviously honest and frank interview, why is it that this comment is perceived as somehow less than honest?

Just askin’ :ponder_tb:

I could give a shit about the fact that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gay. What I have a MAJOR problem is that he acknowledges hardcore drug use and, it appears, does not take a stance of condemnation.

Hard drugs? I thought he said he smoked pot, has tried ecstacy, and didn’t like cocaine. Sounds like pot is the only one he might still be doing. He maybe should clarify. I don’t think it was necessary or necessarily smart to talk about drug use in his first major interview. Some things don’t have to be announced.

RS does their best to bring out provocative and not necesssarily flattering comments. They did the same with Clay when he said some things that came back to bite him (killing a cat, etc.). I think you have to be a little bit careful when doing an interview like that. Overall it will be fun but definitely provocative in Adam’s case.

Is the entire article out somewhere? I was under the impression that we have not gotten the entire story yet? Isn’t the jury still out? I am hearing convicted.

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

In an obviously honest and frank interview, why is it that this comment is perceived as somehow less than honest?

I’m sure it is true. It was still smart to mention it though, given all the female fans he has.

Just let me say: Adam is a genius.

He “used” AI for all it is worth (the exposure). Now with this article, he gets rid with one interview of the possible “Idol blemish”, or “light” reputation that anyone coming out of the show has to deal with.
I doubt anyone after this will think of him as typical light pop reality show output.
GENIUS.

Does anyone know what day the magazine is supposed to be out in stores?

this guy could quite possibly be the biggest rock star in the world…talent, personality…awesome

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

In an obviously honest and frank interview, why is it that this comment is perceived as somehow less than honest?

Shrewd and honest are not opposites. One can be both at the same time.

Adam is no dummy. He knows that a lot of females think he’s hot, and he knows that admitting he’s kinda curious will give some of them a reason to hang around longer, I bet. He could have not said anything about it, and I believe that when he decided to share that little tidbit he knew exactly what he was doing.

Maybe I’m dense, but I’m not understanding the flap over the drug issue. For starters, we haven’t read the whole article so we don’t know everything he says about it. But from what we have read, he says he smoked pot and “tried” Ecstasy in Germany and that he had a drug experience at Burning Man. In my mind, that doesn’t equate to a serious drug user and he’s not suggesting that everyone start doing drugs, pronto. The question was going to be asked at some point and short of lying, this information was going to come out. I’m glad he was honest and put it out there now instead of ducking from it for the next five years.

he needs to hit the gym though…just get a little definition

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

In an obviously honest and frank interview, why is it that this comment is perceived as somehow less than honest?

Oh, I think he is being honest. I just think it was smart to answer that question. If he didn’t people would be badgering him about it in the future because you know everyone would be wanting to know. (He will, however, have more drinks bought for him than he can drink from now on!!). I think it was also a good move to talk about the drugs, when he told his parents he was gay, etc.

I think people respect honesty and that is why I think this interview is so brilliant.

Here is a youtube video of the Today Show aired today about Adam and the RS cover/interview. They praise Adam for being so unprocessed and honest. They also said that now that this is all out and behind him he can begin to take the music scene by storm. Link

I don’t think Kris will mind Adam saying anything about him. He seems to really want to get the message out there that all types of people can get along. As far as Adam revealing that he’s liberal, I think Kris basically said so himself to EW by saying that he’s not conservative. A liberal guy who’s very religious- I think it’s just a stereotype that they can only be one and not the other.

Also, I’m wondering if Adam said anything else other than about Kris and Allison.. I want the dirt! hehe

At work, so it’s hard to read all the comments right now, but…absolutely nothing in those quotes would even qualify as shocking to me. I agree that Idol fans may be shocked, but I don’t think most RS readers will.

I do think it’s a bit provocative to admit an attraction to Kris, but it’s still not all that shocking.

I wonder whether or not Adam has alienated Kris with those comments. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be uncomfortable around one of my gay friends if he admitted that I was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“typeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

The one think that surprised me a bit was the Kris Allen crush information, I wonder if Kris is aware of this! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gonna leave it at that.

I thought about this and figure there was probably a getting-acquainted, “If you weren’t straight you’d TOTALLY be my type!” conversation at the start. And frankly I’m guessing Kris didn’t grow up totally isolated from the world (as it almost seems like Gokey was) and even has some gay friends of his own (yes, there are gay people in Arkansas, I know some).

What I have a MAJOR problem is that he acknowledges hardcore drug use and, it appears, does not take a stance of condemnation.

Umm.. I’m confused – have you read the entire article? I didn’t think it was available yet… All most of us have seen is some out of context quotes. I’m not seeing “hardcore drug use” from the quotes we have seen. Could be, but it sounded more experimental.

We have a president who admits to experimenting (and I think the last couple of them eventually admitted to that as well) so the idea that a potential rock star living in LA might have experimented really doesn’t amaze me too much.

Without reading the article, we have no idea if he “condemns” it or not.

Oceana – Again this is the kind of thing that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans say that turn other people off.

Oceana, you completely missed my point, but that’s okay. c’est la vie

I am a fan of Adam, but I’m not intending to say things that turn people on. If what I say has the power to turn people on or off, I’ll have to rethink my influence quotient.

Way to completely demolish the AI stigma Adam! In years past, the biggest obstacle to a contestant coming off AI and trying to make a career in the music business has been the squeaky clean, bland image of the show.

I don’t think he has anything to worry about in *that* department.

The AI fanbase won’t get you past your first single in the real world, and the bland Disneyesque image of AI is detrimental to anyone who wants a career that is not based in MOR, Christian Contemporary or Country. In season 5 it was worried about constantly that Daughtry would find it difficult to be accepted into the Rock world due to his stint on AI. I not only think that it doesn’t matter what tweens, cougars, grandmas and other assorted AI fans are *shocked, I tell ya, shocked* by, I think it is golden in a PR, career in music sense.

He is edgy. He *wants* to be edgy. He doesn’t need the support (which is very limited) from the AI viewership if it means making music that they wouldn’t care for anyway. It’s not just a box that they put you in, it’s a trap. He doesn’t strike me as an artist that would willingly stay in a trap for one second longer than he was forced to.

I was joking about the Martin L. King, Jr. comment. I think he will be satisfied with being the biggest rock star on the planet. He’ll probably wait to lead the gay rights movement until after he sell ten million albums. This boy will be busy.

Since his fan base is ONLY Idol related at this point, and I’ll assume that’s 90% middle aged women, leaving the door open to bisexuality was smart. Although, he should have added that he prefers older women. Seriously, does he have many younger fans? Maybe people who go to his fan sites would know that. Seems like his main appeal is to those that liked glamrock back in the day.

Kris crush? Adam is no dummy! LOL I love how à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“100% straightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Kris can be so loving towards Adam (the constant hugging, that natural laugh at the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I like the topà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  joke, the endless quotes of supportà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..) without the worry of what others would say or gossip.

Kris is one secure dude in his masculinity. And whether he knows it or not, he’s also seductive! Remember that he “swooned” Jamie Foxx? It’s all good….

Well, on to other things in the article. I thought it was cute that he found Kris attractive, and that Kris doesn’t seem to feel threatened by that, judging from how friendly they are togethert. That honesty I appreciate.

And it was interesting that he forgot to delete the photos from the Burning Man site, and that he was worried when the pictures came out. I appreciate his being candid and sharing that. I think we can mostly all relate that there are things from our past that we would be embarrassed by if they came out at the wrong time to the wrong people.

I liked most of the comments so far, aside from a couple that made me uncomfortable.

I agree that Idol fans may be shocked, but I don’t think most RS readers will.

I agree with that.

Last month’s article with Lady Gaga, she said she was bisexual and admitted to having done a lot of cocaine. I don’t think most people really cared.

he comes off as an egomaniac in the snippets I’ve seen. I hope the full article is better, but I don’t think its very flattering at all. Gone is the classy guy from AI that I grew to really respect.

You were just on AI Adam, you aren’t Mick Jagger yet, though you appear to think you might be.

For starters, we havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t read the whole article so we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know everything he says about it.

So the entire article isn’t out? I am getting confused on this blog…. it sounds like all the information is out when you read some posts. I guess this is what they call “convicted by the media”.

One of my greatest fears is to be before a jury of my peers. Talk about skeery.

You are going to make me say the T word. He is coming out of musical theatre not 10 years in the trenches with a band doing the bar circuit. I am sorry but that alone gives him credibility issues in some areas of the music world and amongst many music fans. Remember not everyone watches Idol and many people will dismiss anyone or anything that comes out of the Idol machine until proven wrong by the music. I suspect for those outside of the Idol bubble, and many within, he still has a long way to go to prove he is any more legit than his Idol predecessors. Just being gay and witty doesn’t mean your original material is going to be any better than those who have gone before you.

Your average Rolling Stone reader, which is not the average Idol audience which is why he is on the cover, to sell covers to people who never buy Rolling Stone and will never buy it again unless Adam is on the cover again, is not going to be convinced until they hear the music and not a moment before.

Patience is a virtue however. One can only hope the 19 Yoke doesn’t stifle that boy too much creatively.

Since his fan base is ONLY Idol related at this point

I don’t think this is necessarily true. I know a lot of people who didn’t watch Idol, but heard about Adam and then bought some of his music from itunes. And just last week I was blasting some of his pre-AI music while gardening (yes, I’m a geek) and my teenage neighbor asked me to burn her a cd of it. She’s no AI fan, but she loves to dance.

Also, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wondering if Adam said anything else other than about Kris and Allison.. I want the dirt! hehe

I think we will get the dirt in the full article..I think we will read more about what he thinks about Kris and Alli specifically..He will be diving into his experience on Idol..I lie to know his thoughts on the other idols…

For the first time since the finale, I am truly glad that Adam did not win. After seeing this amazing cover and all that has happened to him since idol, it just would not have suited his image to have won. I just can’t see him standing there after the idol win when they would have asked him….”Adam, what are you going to do now after winning American Idol?” Adam: “I’m going to Disney World!” LOL. It’s almost like then they would have had to have him laying on the bed on the RS cover with Minnie Mouse….err…Mickey Mouse! Just.So.Wrong! Not exactly edgey. Mickey Mouse, snakes, butterflies…. :blink_tb:

Look whatever anyone thinks about individual quotes from the article it’s a PR win. It’s the #1 emailed news item in the world right now. And is still rising on Google.

Plus when was the last time so many people were trying to get their hands on a copy of RS?

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

My answer? It is shrewd because Adam seems to know that if he doesn’t leave a glimmer of hope for the fangirls, many will be disappointed to find that they have no chance to get into his pants, which may result in less interest on their part.

Wow.. Adam is the 4th most trending topics on Twitter. People can’t get enough of this guy!! lol

liked it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful. Lately thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost bi-curious the other way around. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve made out with girls at nightclubs when I had way too many drinks. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if it would ever happen, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of interested.

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

In an obviously honest and frank interview, why is it that this comment is perceived as somehow less than honest?

Just askinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

I have a theory.

You know, sexuality comes in so many many different kinds, with some people completely fluid, omnisexual, and some people very set in some particular mode, and everything in between. But no matter where your own sexuality is, it’s hard to really internalize somebody else’s being very different. And it’s also hard to conceptualize some kinds of sexuality if you’ve never actually encountered them in anybody you’re close to…..

I mean, I know people both gay and straight whose own sexuality is quite solid and predictable to them, and they tend to have a hard time believing that bi-curious even actually exists — because of how they experience sexuality themselves, they figure that other people’s is the same way, and they are likely to say that those who claim any bi “are just kidding themselves,” in the words of Phoebe of Friends’ kiddie song. Similarly, for the more fluidly sexual — Oh, come on, of *course* you can imagine swinging the other way or dressing up in your wife’s underwear or getting involved in a little whip action, or something. They can’t imagine the more set sexuality either, often.

I think it’s likely — given his overall presentation of himself and the fact that he tends to be honest to a fault — that Adam has a certain fluidity to his sexuality and is completely accurate in how he’s describing his current bi-curiosity. But I also know that he’s smart and savvy and knows how to market himself, so if I weren’t more on the omnisexual side myself, I can see how I might figure that this was a very nice marketing statement and no more!

“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is necessarily true. I know a lot of people who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watch Idol, but heard about Adam and then bought some of his music from itunes.”

There may be people who have just heard of him and will buy his music because of the publicity but they will be vastly outnumbered by the 28 million people who watched the Idol finale. When he gets his music on the radio, he’ll pick up new fans.

His target audience is not the soccer moms and grannies

Just for the record, so the “young people” in the house know, most “grannies” nowadays came of age during the biggest cultural revolution in the country. You know – free love, sex and drugs and rock ‘n roll, Woodstock, bra-burning, Stonewall. “Grannies” are probably the least likely to be turned off by anything Adam had to say (unless you’re talking about your own granny. And in that case, I’d let her read the article and decide for herself. She might surprise you.)

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What I have a MAJOR problem is that he acknowledges hardcore drug use and, it appears, does not take a stance of condemnation.

Hardcore drug use? Have you read more than snippets of the article? Did you not see his comments about cocaine? I think he majorly condemned that drug in a very effective way.

(He will, however, have more drinks bought for him than he can drink from now on!!).

Haha! So true, undercooked.

Like it or not, the Idol is a role model.

When did the winner of a reality show become a role model and have to live up to anyone’s standards. And whose definition of what is a role model should be used to define what an American Idol must be.

These kids are people, not manufactured stage pieces that are the epitome of someones warped definition of what is correct behavior. My God, the President of the United States has used drugs (and he isn’t the first nor the last) and I would guess that he isn’t the only high profile person that has a bit of a checkered past.

There is a current American Idol that seems to love to play casinos and spends a bit of time at the black jack table drinking his liquor of choice and betting on a few hands and using colorful language to boot. And I say, good for him ’cause I’m not going to hold him up to any higher standard than I would hold myself up to.

Some people that have clearly always been anti-Adam are using this as an opportunity to say “OMG now I’m glad he didn’t win”. Yeah right. They’ve always been! And I’m talking about the commenters of many blogs and news sites that have been very bold about disliking Adam looks, voice or personality.

Most of the rest of the people (not only Glamberts) will not read that hard into the whole drug issue, we’re living in 2009, as much as I’m not interested at all in drugs, blaming someone just because they admitted that they have tried them would be ridiculous and closed minded. Decades ago, before the 70s era, maybe. Now? It’s not a big deal IMHO.

Kris is one secure dude in his masculinity. And whether he knows it or not, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also seductive! Remember that he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“swoonedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Jamie Foxx? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all goodà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I know. And it’s hardly a surprise that Kris is Adam’s type. Kris is everyone’s type. (I wonder if lesbians are like–I’m sure of my sexuality, but if I were straight, it would be Kris.)

His decision to audition for “American Idol” came after a week at Burning Man — an annual festival held in a Nevada desert — where he experimented with “certain funguses.”

“I had a psychedelic experience where I looked up at the clouds and went, ‘Oh!’ ” he said. “I realized that we all have our own power, and that whatever I wanted to do, I had to make happen.”

The more I hear/read, the more I am turned off. Go do your sparkly thing, Adam. Thank goodness America got it right this season.

Just based on my own experience, my gay friends really try to only joke with straight men who they perceive are comfortable with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“gaynessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . It seems to be a lot easier for them to be more open with their straight women friends.

Remember the “I prefer the top” comment? Kris got it and didn’t seem embarrassed/ shocked in the slightest. He laughed about it and I thought I saw Adam turning a little red, tbh. Kris is just as comfortable with who he is as Adam is.

ETA: looks like karenw already addressed this. lol.

Oh dear God! Adam is sooooooo hoooooottttttt on the cover of Rolling Stone! I love that man.

Ha Jsus, I am that “Grannie”. Straight outta the 70′s. Adam does not shock or upset me in the least. He does my 24 year old stepson though. Go figure. At 52 I am more accepting than a 24 year old. And his wife, 22 years old. Not everyone is moving forward I guess.

The “sticking it” euphemism seems to have shocked more than a few people, but not me. I found it bawdy, not vulgar and was not offended in the least. The comments chastizing him for his choice of language, or pot-smoking/fungus consumption are interesting. (Read: ridiculous)!

Remember, this is not “a glittery alien” created by Disney, folks. As polite as he is–and he is very–he is admittedly unfiltered at times. Hardly chaste, hardly censored. He is genuinely himself. And that is highly appealing to me!

I loved that he included Allison in that quote about Idol being a pageant, cause it is true..they did not fit the whole expected Idol look..Allison was not looking like your beauty queens on Idol and Adam…..well Adam is just fraking Glamorous..something no one has seen before…It is refreshing and I hope this opens the door for more people like that on Idol in the future.

Opps, sorry…. Zsus….

Umm.. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m confused – have you read the entire article? I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it was available yetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ All most of us have seen is some out of context quotes. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not seeing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hardcore drug useà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  from the quotes we have seen. Could be, but it sounded more experimental.

We have a president who admits to experimenting (and I think the last couple of them eventually admitted to that as well) so the idea that a potential rock star living in LA might have experimented really doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t amaze me too much.

I don’t care if it was experimental or not. He experimented with/ used/ uses hardcore drugs. Maybe he doesn’t do any of them anymore. Then again, it sounds very possible from the information we have that he still uses pot and X.

I don’t have that big of a problem with the weed, although it is a gateway drug, which people often forget. But, ecstasy kills, leads to women getting raped, and a lot of other evil evil shit.

And, so, “he doesn’t like coke”. I’m sorry, Adam, not your flavor of candy? Maybe he does condemn drug use in the article, and if so, I’ll take everything I’ve said back. But, that’s not the sense I get.

Lastly, with regards to yet another nauseating Obama/ Adam comparison– Obama disavowed his past drug use. Adam it seems, does not.

I think Michelle from Best Week Ever may just have inspired his “Bi-Curious” statement! LOL. He says he might be interested. I hope someone tells her. They did seem to click!

I am as flamingly liberal and as gay-friendly as they come, and I find the “sticking it in” thing crude and kinda creepy, mostly because there’s a subset of gay men that can be very mean about women’s genitalia, anyway, and that annoys me and makes me think of them because of the crude “stick it in” phrase. I don’t want to think of Adam in that world, so I would prefer he stop with that kind of terminology.

It doesn’t make me like Adam any less, really, although it does make me wonder if I would enjoy hanging out with him as much as I thought I would, since he seems to be trying awfully hard to be OUT THERE!!!! (and don’t you forget it) what with the bi-curious remark and making out with girls and the drugs and suchlike. You don’t have to Amy Winehouse or Lindsay Lohan or Robert Downey, Jr, the early years, to be cool and provocative.

In terms of whether it makes somebody a puritan or a prude or a homophone to find fault with his interview… Bitch, please! I already know that my best gay friend would HATE this interview (if he read it, which I doubt) because he doesn’t even like use of the word “suck” because he thinks it’s derogatory toward gays. I’m not kidding. Not all gay people are alike (as Adam says) and they are allowed to have their own likes and dislikes, as are flamingly liberal, gay-friendly types like me. It doesn’t make me a puritan to not like porn or strippers, for example. I didn’t like Demi Moore naked and pregnant on the front of whatever magazine that was, I got really tired of all the penises (penii?) on stage in “Take Me Out,” and I find Angelina Jolie icky and creepy and very, very fake. Different strokes, y’know?

I do wonder if Kris had heard before that Adam found him attractive, just because it probably means he’s now going to have to be answering if he knew and when he knew and if it bothered him and if it bothered Katy and lalala More Adam Focus When Kris Is the Winner, Damn It. It also flies in the face of the gay men who work really hard to tell the world that no, they are not attracted to every cute guy out there and the homophobic people’s teenage sons are safe in their classrooms or on their baseball teams or whatever. Again, I can see my best gay friend rolling his eyes and wishing Adam had kept it to himself if he was attracted to Kris or anybody else, except maybe Simon, because that would’ve been amusing. I wonder if Megan had said she was really attracted to Kris and it was too bad he’s married, if people would’ve said, oh, that kooky Megan, isn’t Kregan adorable? Or if they would’ve said, hey, that’s not very respectful of Katy when you’re gonna be on tour with the boy all summer and she’s not.

When fans say their favorite idol is “classy” what does that mean? Seriously.

I know there are different contexts to the word “classy” but I don’t quite get it in the idol realm.

Fred Astaire was classy. He dressed well, danced amazingly and was a very dapper guy in his movies.

Then there’s the “she’s not a slut” classy. “That hoochie-mamma don’t fuck just anyone. She’s real classy like that.”

There’s the southern “his mama raised him right” classy. “Billy-Bob’s a classy guy. He never leaves beer cans in his truck.”

There’s the New Jersey classy. “Roco has 15 heavy gold chains he wears with his shirt open. Shit! That’s classy!”

There’s the “I’ve been inked” classy. “Damn! That tramp stamp looks good with those low rise jeans and thongs! You look so classy!”

Whoa, cool cover. I love the snake and butterfly on his crotch, haha. And who wouldn’t have a crush on Kris? He’s beyond cute and his aw shucks demeanor makes me wonder if he lets loose in the sack…

When did the winner of a reality show become a role model and have to live up to anyoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s standards. And whose definition of what is a role model should be used to define what an American Idol must be.

Nah, I think the show has always had the undercurrent of “should be a role model” for its winners. Not from the producers per se, but definitely from the fans. That said, Adam didn’t win, so he’s not “The” American Idol. I think if he had won, 19M wouldn’t have let him say half that stuff.

It is still a family show though, so there does have to be an assumption that anyone popular coming off AI has at least some younger fans. So in that sense the drug comments could be problematic, But I think it depends on exactly what he said in context, and we don’t know that until we read the article. I personally am reserving judgment until then.

But I will say though… so far it doesn’t look like he said anything different than a typical pop star today would say. I don’t know if its shocking in a context outside of Idol.

snuffles
Jun 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
elephant1212
Jun 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
cant say who yet, but i have heard adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management is awesome:)

I just heard the news and, if what I heard is trye, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re right. It looks like they really do think that Adam can be huge. Also heard that RCA is planning to invest heavily in Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and really push it globally.

I know you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say it out loud; but you confirm for me that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s NOT 19M? Meaning, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to have completely separate management from Kris?

What’s the info on this? Who is this management that is supposed to be awesome? Where are you reading this?

I was hoping for more music / recording info from the RS article. Maybe it is still coming. Would not surprise me to learn RS is holding info back to last possible moment.

I agree that Idol fans may be shocked, but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think most RS readers will.

I agree with that.
Last monthà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s article which with Lady Gaga, she said she was bisexual and admitted to having done a lot of cocaine. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think most people really cared.

Well, Lady Gaga didn’t get her big break on Idol. Those who come from Idol are in a tricky position. Right now most of Adam’s fans are Idol watchers, so he can’t just dismiss them and decide he doesn’t want them as fans. Then he’d have to start from almost the bottom up again.

Besides, it’s not necessary to disparage Idol watchers. We here all watch it, and we all think we’re pretty cool don’t we? LOL.

There’s sometimes a tightrope to walk when you have Idol fans and to make the transition to a wider fan base.

Though I think that most of Adam’s fans are of the more tolerant minded in general or they wouldn’t like him in the first place.

Haters will hate. For example, Perez Hilton still seems bitter about not getting the headline. He had to use one of the worst Adam pictures out there in his post about Rolling Stone today. And not only that, apparently, he is not happy about the fact that Adam doesn’t want to be in a civil movement (or that’s the sense I got). Seems like Perez Hilton does want to become the civil rights leader of our times. Unfortunately, the man is very lame at it.

BTW, Adam is indeed a trending twitter topic. It’s funny, most of the tweets go along these lines: a) Duh! Tell us something new. or b) OMG what a hot cover!!

the “stick it in” comment -

That’s how I talked in the 60′s/70′s and that’s how I talk now. It’s not how I talk in the office as I am in the conservative financial services industry. But Adam is in the entertainment industry. I am not offended nor do I see anything unusual by his candid interview.

I still think that he’s the Adam that we saw on AI–respectful, kind-hearted and classy. It’s not like he came out and said all this in People magazine for example. He knows how to act the right way in situations that require it and in other scenarios, like in a somewhat scandalous magazine, he is unfiltered. That’s just who he is. So it was not like he put on an act on AI–he still strikes me as a genuine, well-brought up guy.

I wish society would be a little more accepting of people like Adam and a little bit demanding of double-moral standards.

I actually think that there is a double standard going the other way. If some straight guy in the mainstream work world was making (hetro) comments about “sticking it in” or announcing that girls in his office are his type, he was been seen as crass or creepy, or both.

Adam gets away with it, partly because I think he makes this comments in a cheeky way, partly because they are directed to a very accepting and liberal entertainment media, and mostly because creating shocking images and/or fantasies is what Hollywood and Rock and Roll are all about. The cover, his comments, its all well-played fantasy and, as such, vast droves of people will accept it, who would never accept it in real life.

Trying to draw moral distinctions one way or the other almost seems pointless to me. Either you find the Adam Show sexy and entertaining and lap of every minute or it, or you turn it off and focus on other things. The idea that the entertainment world or rock should, or could, serve as a moral compass for the masses is a little unrealistic to me.

Ryan Seacrest has like a collage of Adam covers on his site. Its cool. lol http://www.ryanseacrest.com/

Tara Jun 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

Ha Jsus, I am that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Grannieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . Straight outta the 70à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. Adam does not shock or upset me in the least. He does my 24 year old stepson though. Go figure. At 52 I am more accepting than a 24 year old. And his wife, 22 years old. Not everyone is moving forward I guess.

LOL, I wouldn’t necessarily call it moving forward. Someone brought up the ways of the ancient Greek culture.

Haters will hate.

Yup. lol And if Adam becomes that global star that he and RCA hopes the haters will hate even more. You can’t please everyone. I love Adam’s attitude about it.

Well, Lady Gaga didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get her big break on Idol. Those who come from Idol are in a tricky position. Right now most of Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans are Idol watchers, so he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just dismiss them and decide he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want them as fans. Then heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have to start from almost the bottom up again.

Well, sorta yes and sorta no. He has the record deal and the backing of a solid management team. His Idol viewers were only gonna get him a nice single sales debut and a couple of weeks of good album sales at the outset. He could fight to hold on to every last one of the Idol fans, or he could lose a few but replace them with more actual pop music buyers by positioning himself as something not all that different from what they are used to. The pop buyers are what he needs in the long run. So it’s 6 of one half a dozen of the other, to me.

Well put me in the camp that thought the ‘sticking it in there,’ was a bit crude. But on the other hand I do expect that kind of thing from Rolling Stone articles. Kind of ‘rock starring’ it up a bit. The rest of the sentiment I thought fine. Adam has said he worries about his lack of filter sometimes, I think he’s right to worry aboout it. Not for myself, but it seems to have pinged badly for others.

I also don’t have a problem with his drug use, but than I don’t find the idea that someone did mushrooms and E a few years ago to that unusual or bad. That or the pot more recently, possibly even now. YMMV.

That being said I could see how it could lose him some fans and that’s valid. I do think he is tailoring his style of speaking for his venue. Not that any of it’s fake, but different parts of him and what is appropriate when talking to Rolling Stone, isn’t appropriate when talking to the judges on American Idol, or to the cameras of ET. As long as he shows the other parts of himself, the gracious part of himself, the sweet part, I’m fine with it. Though again, I can see why others might not like it.

Oh well, I love the cover. Love that he got a cover. Think he looks fab and some of the inside shots are also verra hot.

I think Adam’s comment about Kris gives Kris a great opportunity to show the public what he’s all about. Kris will be asked. And, I think, he’ll laugh at it, be cool about it, and say again how much he loves Adam and how open Kris is. Kris got so much press for getting Danny’s very conservative votes. Adam says he’s liberal and open. I think this could help Kris get some press that would help him get beyond the traditional Idol too.

I also love his Allison quote. Adam says Idol is such a pageant. And something along the lines that that hurt Allison. How Idol wanted her to stand there, smile and say what they wanted her to say. Adam implies Allison is not a pageant singer. That she isn’t the pretty packaged artist Idol seems to want. And that Allison is an individual herself and isn’t going to pushed into a box either.

I’m just loving everything Adam is saying and each new thing that comes out. I honestly don’t think that even traditional Idol voters who like Adam will fault him for trying drugs at one point in their life. Double standard for most of them. Even Bush tried Cocaine and who knows what.

Sparkles:

I don’t know what other people mean when they use the word “classy” to describe their favorite idol. But I’ve used that word a lot to describe Adam during AI and for me it means “stylish, admirably smart, elegant, handsome, confident and humble. (All rolled into one amazing dude!)

Smart cookie:

I’ve heard many a straight guy use the terms “stick it” and “suck face” in terms of girls.

Since his fan base is ONLY Idol related at this point, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll assume thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 90% middle aged women, leaving the door open to bisexuality was smart. Although, he should have added that he prefers older women. Seriously, does he have many younger fans? Maybe people who go to his fan sites would know that. Seems like his main appeal is to those that liked glamrock back in the day.

He has a lot of young fans. If you look on his fan sites, they skew much younger than this site. One is a Twilight-Lambert fansite where I think the average is about 13 or so. (and not all girls).

And actually, I don’t think Adam’s core fans are really AI fans.

A buzz media firm did an analysis to tween MySpace pages and found it split 50-50 between Adam and Kris with an insignificant advantage to Adam. BUT they also found that on pages where people stated they were AI fans, Kris was slightly ahead of Adam.

Just wow on all the drug use comments. I’m 50 and don’t think I know anyone who hasn’t experimented or been exposed to illegal drugs. He’s not putting posters of himself up in grammar, middle and high schools smoking a joint and saying “please join me”. It sounds like a drug using experience gave him an “ah ha” moment. It sure isn’t the first time that has happened to a person. You can go pretty far back in history for examples of that. We haven’t read the entire article and I’m sure there is more said about the issue. In the mean time, I guess people can pretend to live under a rock and believe that the rest of us do to.

Those who come from Idol are in a tricky position. Right now most of Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans are Idol watchers, so he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just dismiss them and decide he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want them as fans.

Adam is breaking out of Idol. This RS cover will help him with that and will get people interested in his music. They are already starting to broaden his fan base. We have to remember that Adam was never the “typical” idol to begin with, which is why even though people thought he deserved to win, knew in the end he would not.

So, there three different management groups: 19E (Simon Fuller), 19M and 19R. Can someone explain to me 19M and 19R?

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what other people mean when they use the word à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“classyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to describe their favorite idol. But Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve used that word a lot to describe Adam during AI and for me it means à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stylish, admirably smart, elegant, handsome, confident and humble. (All rolled into one amazing dude!)

That’s what I was hoping it would mean. :devil_tb:

For me it’s not that Adam should be a role model. I just don’t like crude language. I never have, even when I was heavy into drugs in California in my youth, when I was the most radical liberal feminist rebel possible. I wasn’t raised to speak in a vulgar way and nobody I knew ever talked that way around me. I guess I’m more of a romantic and to me sexuality was always a sensual, beautiful thing and I never liked it to be demeaned. I was into casual sex but not into speaking of it vulgarly, if that makes sense.

I don’t like vulgar humor either, I guess, don’t like slapstick or vaudeville, don’t like the 3 stooges, I like risque humor but it should be subtle and sophisticated, not crude. Yet in other ways I’m very liberal in my thinking. I think it’s a matter of what appeals to you aesthetically.

And actually, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s core fans are really AI fans.

What does that mean? They found him on AI, didn’t they? Heh. That one goes round every year. He has AI fans just like everyone else, even if the demo doesn’t align perfectly with AI’s viewership.

New quote about Danny:

And while he’s diplomatic about it, Lambert makes it clear that his relationship with third-place finisher, Milwaukee worship leader Danny Gokey, was not quite as easy. Lambert said the two discussed religion a few times and “Danny is by the book, and the book is The Word,” he explained. “And I respect that. Just don’t try to push it on me and we’re cool.”

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1613535/20090609/story.jhtml

I think some of this is generational too. There is definitely a generational divide in the US. Its been happening for a couple of years now.

All I have to say is I suddenly find myself appreciating David Cook even more today. Sometimes I wonder why I’m still a fan because I definitely don’t get on well with many of his extremely over-invested fans, and I like, but don’t love, the majority of his music (I’m more a Cure/ Depeche Mode/ Ned’s Atomic Dustbin-type guy).

I think I still just like the dude because when he has a public forum he talks about things like finding a cure for cancer and things of that sort….

All I can say is that I wish I had known myself this well at the age of 27. It took me a lot longer to get where he is now, so more power to him! I think he will do well because he is obviously very determined and focused — as well as being insanely talented.

Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautifulà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Rather than being offended by this, my first thought was “Huh? What does he mean?” The context of that sentence leaves it open for interpretation.

By saying “find IT beautiful” does he mean that he finds the thought of sticking it in there beautiful, or does he mean that he finds pussy’s beautiful to look at?

Go ADAM! You sexy, talented beast! I’m so proud of him. He’s REAL! I admire that in a celebrity. I hope amazing things happen for Adam and I’ll be watching and supporting him from the sidelines.

So it was not like he put on an act on AIà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’he still strikes me as a genuine, well-brought up guy.

Does anyone else remember an article in which someone was talking w/Adam’s dad about how polite Adam was on AI and complimenting him on how he was brought up? I could have sworn his dad replied, “he wasn’t brought up that way.” or something like that. Perhaps it was taken out of context, idk. It just thought it was a strange response, so it stood out to me. Sorry for the OT.

Smart cookie:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve heard many a straight guy use the terms à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stick ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“suck faceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  in terms of girls.

And I wouldn’t like it from them, either, or hang out with them, because I would find it creepy and crude. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. You can say whatever you want, in whatever terms you want, but you can’t be surprised when people react. So Adam has lost me a little with this interview. I was never likely to buy dance/pop/electronica/whatever, anyway. I can’t stand Lady GaGa or what passes for music from her. So, you know, evs.

In terms of “suck,” my friend finds it objectionable not as a sexual term (sucking face or something) but in the more general sense of “That sucks,” because he thinks that “sucks” arose as a derogatory term because it has gay connotations, i.e, oral sex. I think that’s pushing it, plus I kind of like both “sucks” and “blows” as part of my vocabulary. But my friend does not. I was just using it as an example of there not being some massive gay groupthink and individuals being offended by individual things. Again, evs.

I think some of this is generational too. There is definitely a generational divide in the US. Its been happening for a couple of years now.

Oh that makes me smile. Generation gap is not new. I grew up in the 60s when our slogan was “don’t trust anyone over 30.” It’s just that now I’m on the other side, and I know that inside we are still young, just not on the outside.

p.s. smartcookie I think you are my new hero today. Love your thinking process.

Question: Why is it when people get to this quote they start saying things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shrewd,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“f**king brilliant,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“guy knows how to play the game?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

My answer? It is shrewd because Adam seems to know that if he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t leave a glimmer of hope for the fangirls, many will be disappointed to find that they have no chance to get into his pants, which may result in less interest on their part.

Ahhh, but you only selectively answered the first question and not the second. Again, why is the original quote any less honest than the rest of the interview?

noctem seizure

Maybe he does condemn drug use in the article, and if so, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll take everything Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve said back.

He certain does condemn use of cocaine – that quote is already out there. Again, saying that one experimented with weed and ecstasy does not equate to “hardcore drug use,” so I don’t see anything to back up your original statement.

I think I still just like the dude because when he has a public forum he talks about things like finding a cure for cancer and things of that sortà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

It’s always easy to pull out little tidbits that prove an issue, taking things out of context is pretty much what makes the world go around. Altruism is always a great forum to hang your hat on, but is it really who someone is in the long run. I don’t have a clue!

This is from the NY Post. Adam also likes Zac Efron. I’m seeing a pattern here. lol

His dream Burning Man buddy:
“I’m trying to get Zac Efron to come to Burning Man. He says he really wants to go!”

Link: http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/archives/2009/06/adam_lambert_im_gay.html

I agree with some observations that Adam or his management team is trying to shed off the AI Image to cater to a broader market. He did use AI as his platform. When he said that there is a big market out there for some craziness, he sure knows what he is talking about. Outside America, people tend to be more suprisingly accepting.

Does anyone else remember an article in which someone was talking w/Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s dad about how polite Adam was on AI and complimenting him on how he was brought up? I could have sworn his dad replied, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t brought up that way.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or something like that.

I remember that radio interview. I thought his dad was saying that it was in his nature, it wasn’t something they had to teach him.

Noctem seizure: I really don’t think 19 is going to suppress this interview–the very fact that that we are reading about it means that Rolling Stone has published it, so cat’s out of the bag. I too like that David Cook talks about finding a cure for cancer. I also like that Adam takes every chance he gets to talk about the need for kids who are artistic or simply different to be encouraged, accepted, etc. They’re both good guys.

It is funny how people have different reactions to this, though not unexpected of course. Personally, I’m 20, from Los Angeles, female, straight, Christian, liberal, haven’t had sex, don’t drink, don’t do drugs of any kind or smoke (those last two things don’t have anything to do with being Christian, they’re just my preference), and I saw nothing wrong with anything Adam said in this interview. He’s clearly simultaneously really sweet, really bluntly honest, very thoughtful, and a bit bawdy, and I like that combination. A lot of my friends, both gay and straight, are like that, and a lot of them have been fairly adventurous when it comes to sex and the lesser drugs, so it’s not shocking to me.

Personally, I would be appalled at a guy who approached a girl with an offer to “stick it into her.” But Adam using it in this particular instance was just bawdy in a self-aware way. Context matters, and for me this phrase was fine in context. But mileage varies. As we all know by now, Adam is who he is, and that will appeal to people to varying degrees.

Here are some more quotes from the NY post. He mentions Allison and answers people who say “what type of music will you do”.

“American Idol:”
“I saw what David Cook did last year, and it was cool. He thought, ‘I have to sing something everybody knows, but I’m going to make it work for me and not give a f*** about the theme.’ It is so pageant. That’s why it’s hard for people like Allison [Iraheta], who won’t stand there and smile, say when they want her to say. I was on my best behavior, but it wasn’t fake: That really was my best self.”

Life post-”Idol:”
“Everyone is so hung up on ‘Are you pop?’ or ‘Are you rock?’ It’s like, ‘Um, does this song make you want to dance, or have sex, or remind you of something?’ It’s not that deep. I’m trying to be a singer, not a civil rights leader. Being a rock star is just playing. It’s Halloween, make believe. I can’t believe I get to play dress-up for a living now!”

I am not a *total* prude, but my jaw did drop a few times at some of these quotes. I dunno…maybe he was *too* candid, because it’s RS, and most of their regular readers can take it?

I think he is an amazing talent, and I want him to be happy and successful. But I think being more guarded about his personal life would serve him well. Didn’t our moms tell us “you don’t have to tell everything you know”?

Well, Lady Gaga didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get her big break on Idol. Those who come from Idol are in a tricky position. Right now most of Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans are Idol watchers, so he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just dismiss them and decide he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want them as fans. Then heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have to start from almost the bottom up again.

This brings to mind the EW recap on the finale, which mentioned something along the lines of, one of the reasons Adam didn’t win is that his core audience isn’t really idol watchers, per se, which has a ring of truth to it.

After all, how many comments on this board have talked about how much they loved Adam because he wasn’t the typical idol (me included)? So, he got a very unique group of new fans based on his AI exposure (the kind of audience he wouldn’t typically attempt to woo), but then he’s also now reaching out to audiences like RS’s to try to, imo, capture more of the audience that he would appeal to (beyond the AI world).

For those who point out (rightfully so) that the key to post-idol success is building a fan base outside of the show, I think this is a very smart marketing move for him and 19 (and for the record, I believe 19 is absolutely LOVING all the Adam coverage, subversive quotes and all)

I’m waiting for the PETA people to weigh in. I’m sure that poor snake was traumatized! It was quaking in fear, wondering what was hiding in Adam’s trousers.

All I have to say is I suddenly find myself appreciating David Cook even more today.

Yeah me too. He’s very earthy, down to earth, yes he goes to casinos and drinks and swears, as someone alluded to, but he does seem to be a bit of a romantic and I’ve never heard him say anything that seemed crude or vulgar. I don’t mean to put him on a pedastol. He just appeals to me more than anyone else on Idol has, his music and his personality, him and Kelly I guess, I really like Allison too.

I like Adam and I imagine I’ll like a few songs here and there, I’ll be curious about what he’s doing next, and that’s about it for now.

I wonder if it has to do with our upbringing and where we grew up. I moved to California when I was 18, was a liberal my whole life, but maybe those midwest values always stayed with me too. Adam’s from the L.A. area, I have lived there, it is much more casual there and pretty much anything does go. David Cook grew up in the midwest (Missouri) so maybe there’s just something about those values that stick with you under it all.

“It also flies in the face of the gay men who work really hard to tell the world that no, they are not attracted to every cute guy out there and the homophobic peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s teenage sons are safe in their classrooms or on their baseball teams or whatever.”

I see it in a completely opposite light: First, I doubt he would have said this publicly if he and Kris didn’t have such a comfortable relationship. Kris is clearly not threatened and his ease shows, more than any words, that Adam is far from predatory. I got from the quote, that he is respectful of others being 1) straight and/or 2) taken. That is t he opposite of the stereotype of gay men hitting on unavailable straight guys.

Like Mandalay, I find some of the drug use comments interesting. I’m in my 40′s now, and I remember my 20′s as a period of exploration and trying to figure out who I was and my place in the world. I remember havng a feeling of tremendous freedom and endless possibilities. On a less serious note, there were also a lot of clubs and parties. And yes, I tried several types of drugs, mainly because I was young and curious and thought “why not?”. I was never addicted to drugs — I tried them, had the experience, and moved on. Looking back, do I think trying drugs was dumb? Yeah, it was, but none of us are perfect or completely mature in our 20′s.

Adam is still a young man in his 20′s and it sounds like he has been going through the same type of personal exploration and experimentation. If he has experimented with several types of drugs, it doesn’t mean he is an addict, or even a bad person. He’s just young. Like many of us, he’ll probably look back in 20 years and think “yeah, okay that wasn’t the best choice”, but it doesn’t make him a bad or immoral person. He’s just human.

Does anyone else remember an article in which someone was talking w/Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s dad about how polite Adam was on AI and complimenting him on how he was brought up? I could have sworn his dad replied, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t brought up that way.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or something like that.

I remember that radio interview. I thought his dad was saying that it was in his nature, it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t something they had to teach him.

His dad also said that what you see on TV is the real Adam. He is kind and thoughtful. He is not faking it. He is appreciative of everyone around him, and he does listen to the judges comments.

Once again, I know 19E (Simon Fuller), but I heard people throwing around 19R and 19M. Are those different management groups?

Ryan Seacrest has like a collage of Adam covers on his site. Its cool. lol http://www.ryanseacrest.com/

LOL! Let the Rydam rumors continue

Sparkles ATL – Classy, in the American Idol context, for me, describes a contestant who consistently comes over as non-egotistical, polite in the face of criticism, doesn’t collapse into tears or temper tantrum when Simon does his thing, treats his/her fans with respect, appears to honor and respect parents,
that kind of thing. Good manners, oh and a self-deprecating sense of humor comes over as classy too.

Adam showed all those characteristics, I thought. And perhaps if we could actually watch him saying that “sticking it in” remark ,it would be more palatable with a raised eyebrow, a wink or a sly grin. In cold text it tends to make the tender hearted among us balk a bit. Classy it ain’t. But it’s his only tiny mis-step for my taste, so far.

After all, how many comments on this board have talked about how much they loved Adam because he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the typical idol (me included)? So, he got a very unique group of new fans based on his AI exposure (the kind of audience he wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t typically attempt to woo), but then heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also now reaching out to audiences like RSà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s to try to, imo, capture more of the audience that he would appeal to (beyond the AI world).

The interesting thing is, I have heard DC’s fans say that, Taylor’s fans say that, and fans of others, that they don’t normally watch Idol but only watched that one season, and their idol is found and they don’t have to watch it anymore.

I have always thought it’s unfair to lump the entire Idol audience together as if they are all the same. I know that a lot of people who are really into music do watch Idol. A lot of celebrities and established musicians admit to watching it and even voting. Sure there are Idol fans who are primarily television viewers who say they haven’t listened to music in ten years until so-and-so came along and made them love music again. Then there are your sign-wavers who go to concerts and bring their signs and wave them so you can’t see the stage. But that doesn’t mean that all or even most Idol watchers are like that.

I’ve been a music lover my whole life, and I watch Idol mostly because of the music and the talented kids who get a break there.

Each year people think that their Idol is the one who changed the show forever, who transcended Idol, who is the exception to the rule, but then next year it will be someone else. Adam is pretty amazing but he’s not the only one.

Ah yes, I remember Clay’s fans saying that he was here to change the face of music, to lead a vanilla revolution, to make music clean again. Then there was Constantine, who shocked the hell out of people, and Bo, who broke ground by singing acapella (can’t spell it), and Taylor, who brought back real soul music, and Daughtry, the true rocker, and Blake, the one who rearranged music and brought back beat-boxing (though it went nowhere) and David Arculeta, the voice of an angel, and David Cook, the rocker who made it so everyone had to make a song their own, etc. It’s always something new and next year it will be something else. But in the first afterglow of the show when one is so enamoured of their guy, it seems like he is the be-all and end-all of modern civilization.

It would have been hilarious if Adam had said in that interview that he was attracted to Gokey or Sarver .. just to put the fear of god into them for the tour à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦lol

LOL, :lol_tb:

Eeeeps… that was way too much information for me!

I wonder if it has to do with our upbringing and where we grew up. I moved to California when I was 18, was a liberal my whole life, but maybe those midwest values always stayed with me too. Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s from the L.A. area, I have lived there, it is much more casual there and pretty much anything does go. David Cook great up in the midwest (Missouri) so maybe thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just something about those values that stick with you under it all.

That could be it for you! Perhaps Cook feels culturally familiar? But then again, I was born and raised in NYC, lived a chunk of my grown up life in Boston, and spent mucho time around a lot of Adams. He is much more like me and my friends than Cook, but still, as fun as I find Adam to gab about, I like Cookie more. And Fantasia. And Kelly. I’m kinda all over the map that way.

After all, how many comments on this board have talked about how much they loved Adam because he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the typical idol (me included)?

Eh. As I alluded upthread, people say that abut their Idol every year. When I first started doing the idol internet thing in season 5, I can’t tell you how many Taylor fans said the exact same thing. Ditto Daughtry, Blake Lewis, Cookie, Archie, etc etc etc. “I never cared about Idol until I saw [inset name here] and he’s was so unique I just had to watch him blah blah blah.” LOL. Adam is not unique in that regard.

ETA:

The interesting thing is, I have heard DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans say that, Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans say that, and fans of others, that they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t normally watch Idol but only watched that one season, and their idol is found and they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to watch it anymore.

Damn oceana, we share a brain!

Well, I’m waiting to see the whole article, but nothing in this shocked me at all. But, I knew that he couldn’t shock me after seeing some of the pics from Burning Man, Ring of Fire, and the “I like the top”. I knew that he was unfiltered and different than the usual fare of Idol contestants. Aside from his amazing voice, it’s why I’m a supporter.

I’m not sure if he’ll have any success post idol-I’ll wait for his record to decide that. I like that he’s eclectic and makes me question things and challenges my notions-which I think he aims to do. I would rather he be a flash in the pan but have leave this unexpected greatness/lasting impression on me than for him to not be true to himself. I would be more disappointed if he came out and said he didn’t try drugs and then it turned out he did.

What I find funny is that now he isn’t classy or a nice guy. I didn’t hear him insult the idol process, his competitors, or anything that would take away my respect for him. And, haters are gonna hate, right? Funny how those claiming to now “finally be glad that Adam didn’t win” haven’t been fans of his all season. I’m sure he’s turning off some of his core fans too, but at least he appears to be doing it on his own terms.

Interesting quotes from MTV.com article:

And while he’s diplomatic about it, Lambert makes it clear that his relationship with third-place finisher, Milwaukee worship leader Danny Gokey, was not quite as easy. Lambert said the two discussed religion a few times and “Danny is by the book, and the book is The Word,” he explained. “And I respect that. Just don’t try to push it on me and we’re cool.”

You already knew Lambert was one of the most unconventional “Idol” finalists ever, but in the wide-ranging story, the 27-year-old San Diego native opens up about his childhood à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  he’s Jewish, but never got a bar mitzvah and hated Hebrew school because he got a bloody nose on the first day à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and how despite living as a gay man, he still sometimes gets excited when flirting with women. “I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me,” said Lambert, who discusses making out with and experimenting with girls in high school. “As far as I’m concerned, it’s all hot.”

If it appeared to some that Lambert was borrowing a page from last year’s winner, David Cook, by singing someone else’s re-interpretation of songs on the show, he happily admits as much. “I saw what David Cook did last year and it was cool,” he said. “He thought, ‘I have to sing something everybody knows, but I’m going to make it work for me, and I’m not going to give a f— about what the theme is that week à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and, most of all, I’m going to just ignore the pageantry of the whole thing.”

Lambert also dishes on his best friend on the show, fourth-place finisher 17-year-old Allison Iraheta, who he says didn’t go for the pageantry, either, which might have been what tripped her up. “That’s why it’s hard for people like Allison, who won’t stand there and smile, say what they want her to say,” he said.

aww at Allison being his BF..HBIC and Junior HBIC

interesting about Danny too

I think he is an amazing talent, and I want him to be happy and successful. But I think being more guarded about his personal life would serve him well. Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t our moms tell us à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to tell everything you knowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

I don’t know, I actually think he was smart to put it all out there right now, in his own words so he could control the context, he knows he is not a squeaky clean choir boy, he has never claimed to be anything of the sort, if he did stay “coy” on issues the media would just spend more time digging up “scandals”, they have been focusing so much on his private life partly because they thought there was something hidden there, it will likely still be part of what is reported about him but this way hopefully they can also go back to talking about his music once his album comes out.

I also think that the 19/RCA are fully on board with this, I don’t believe it was a coincidence that they rushed out the announcement of his signing with RCA right before this hit the newstands, they are making it clear they are behind him.

sparkles @2:57

All I can say is that I’m laughing so hard — too funny!!!! And also, I won’t try to interpret or define what he meant. .. I’m still laughing.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I loved it this season when girls went crazy for me. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all hot. Just because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sticking it in there doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it beautiful,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Lambert (graphically) tells Rolling Stone.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

WOW….WOW……

that did put a picture in my mind…

this quote should have a R-rate warning first

If I were a flamboyant gay guy with an OTT performance style who likes hair dye and nail polish and eyeliner and tight fitting jeans and lots of leather would I try out for American Idol and chance loosing any street cred that I had built up over 10 years of working my Arse off in Hollywood? Absolutely not!

Based on what I have read and observed over the 8 years of being an Idol fan and expressing my love for the show with friends and colleagues, AI isn’t considered an ideal forum for a recording wannabe. I don’t need to express, here, the fact that many people consider AI to be rather a bad joke.

Now Adam decided to take on all of the “preconceived negativity” about AI and used it as his chance to be “discovered” in the industry. And look at what he has done. He has turned the idol world upside down. He is getting recognized as an upcoming Artist, he is getting magazine covers, he is getting talked about by industry insiders, established Artists know who he is, the media and talk-show people know who he is. He has moved outside of AI and I really think that 19 is pretty happy with this. This time around they get to promote a Singer with street cred, not a manufactured American Idol.

It may not be what the AI purists think is appropriate but it is what it is.

Adam comments on his relationship with Danny on MTV News

“And while he’s diplomatic about it, Lambert makes it clear that his relationship with third-place finisher, Milwaukee worship leader Danny Gokey, was not quite as easy. Lambert said the two discussed religion a few times and “Danny is by the book, and the book is The Word,” he explained. “And I respect that. Just don’t try to push it on me and we’re cool.”

I wonder if it has to do with our upbringing and where we grew up.

I don’t think so Oceana. First, I think its generational. Secondly, I grew up in a small town, and I have values, but nothing Adam has said so far has “shocked” me. I just think some people are more comfortable with certain topics than others. I don’t think values or religion or morals has anything to do with it at all.

Adam got a lot of his inspiration from David Cook… he mentions him in some of the leaked quotes, and he got to talk and spend time with David. I also know that David Cook is a big supporter of gay rights/marriage, so its not always where you grow up. Its more of a matter of personal comfort. I know some parents who still won’t talk about sex with their kids, and then get mad when they come home pregant….. But they thought it was “improper”.

All I have to say is I suddenly find myself appreciating David Cook even more today….
I think I still just like the dude because when he has a public forum he talks about things like finding a cure for cancer and things of that sortà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I am a Cook fan as well. BUT, who knows if David would have been “so into being a spokesperson for finding a cure for cancer” had he not been directly hit by it? No way of knowing.

AND, we don’t know how Adam would be today, had he had a family member similarly afflicted. Again, no way of knowing.

Give the guy a chance and maybe Adam will eventually use his public-platform for a “good cause”, just like Cook.

Right now he is just trying to live his dream….

If I did not love Adam before I would totally adore him now. Sticking it in comments, drug use and all.

I don’t know if Adam changed Idol forever, but I do think there’s pretty clearly never been a contestant like him before, or one who has, in the views of many critics, been bigger than the show in the way that he has. That doesn’t mean they can’t have a season 9, or that Adam will for sure be a huge superstar, but he’s definitely not what they’ve had before.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m waiting for the PETA people to weigh in. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure that poor snake was traumatized! It was quaking in fear, wondering what was hiding in Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s trousers.

lol .. I think that the snake had the best job on the shoot … I would gladly crawl up Adam’s thigh and be draped around his neck

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I saw what David Cook did last year, and it was cool. He thought, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹I have to sing something everybody knows, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m going to make it work for me and not give a f*** about the theme.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ It is so pageant. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard for people like Allison [Iraheta], who wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand there and smile, say when they want her to say. I was on my best behavior, but it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fake: That really was my best self.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I like that.

Weird, can’t edit that post for some reason. This is what I meant to post:

Oceana said “Each year people think that their Idol is the one who changed the show forever, who transcended Idol, who is the exception to the rule, but then next year it will be someone else. Adam is pretty amazing but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the only one.”

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if Adam changed Idol forever, but I do think thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty clearly never been a contestant like him before, or one who has, in the views of many critics, been bigger than the show in the way that he has. That doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean they canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a season 9, or that Adam will for sure be a huge superstar, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s definitely not what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve had before.

Also: why are people saying that Adam said he had a crush on Kris? Didn’t he simply say that Kris was very attractive and a bit distracting in the beginning? I know plenty of guys whom I find very attractive and whom I would find distracting as roommates, but I don’t have a crush on all of them.

Eh. As I alluded upthread, people say that abut their Idol every year. When I first started doing the idol internet thing in season 5, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell you how many Taylor fans said the exact same thing. Ditto Daughtry, Blake Lewis, Cookie, Archie, etc etc etc. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I never cared about Idol until I saw [inset name here] and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s was so unique I just had to watch him blah blah blah.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  LOL. Adam is not unique in that regard.

Yep. People say this every season and next season it will be the same when some new Idol comes onto the scene. I don’t question why certain Idols appeal to certain people because obviously that happened to me too. I saw an Idol I liked one season and voila, found an artist I was interested in listening to post Idol. But that said, every fan group seems convinced that their Idol is the first anti Idol pushing boundaries and etc. Their Idol is the one who changed the game first. It’s pretty much all bull IMO.

I think he is an amazing talent, and I want him to be happy and successful. But I think being more guarded about his personal life would serve him well. Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t our moms tell us à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to tell everything you knowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

I suspect Adam will gauge and process the reaction from this article and make adjustments accordingly. I think a lot of celebrities tend to be more open in the beginning and more guarded as they move on. He’s already dialed back the Clay comments in recent days (note: I think the Clay comments in this article were already out of the barn before he started getting a media response to his other “off the cuff” Clay remarks). I think Adam will always be a pretty good soundbite, but he will get smarter as he becomes more experienced in what the media likes to focus on.

Oh, what I would give to be in that Idol rehearsal studio today (we’ve seen Sarver’s video, they all sit around on their laptops during breaks). The MTV article led with the Kris comments and then noted that the Allen spokesperson had no comment. heh. I hope Kris is working on his witty comeback as we speak.