Adam Lambert Reacts to GMA Performance: I Think A Mountain Has Been Made of A Molehill

O he just did the Babara walters interview?. why isn’t that cancelled. thought ABC was blacklisting him. whatever!!! hypocritics. all evening u hype his performance with eye popping, u have to see to believe and everyone wld be talking abt the next day then u get a little heat and crumble.

so happy CBS is having him on. same morning so he doesn’t lose jack and I don’t lose either cos all it takes is a channel change.

LOL at Ryan saying he did not see that Adam was a sexual person on AI. Good Lord, he must not have been looking at the same person that I was looking at!

cool:

@SandraBernhard no.people are just homophobic and prudent. adam lambert is the shit! wish we were talking about his cd.which RULES half a minute ago from web

Wow:

@LyingDelilaah Parents TV Council:”It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part.This is not a personal crusade against Adam Lambert.”

the barbara walters special is TAPED and can be edited. i don’t think abc wants him for LIVE performances and interviews until he can “control” himself.

disclaimer: i am not an adam fan. i don’t like his voice. but i do like his personality, his charm, and his humor.

but right now, all i’m thinking is what a jackass he is being. he wouldn’t admit what he did could be deemed offensive and vulgar and i’m NOT talking about the kiss. instead he is hiding behind artistic license. what exactly was his art trying to say. that he is such a badass that everyone wants him and he can do what he pleases with them. adam’s ego seems to be getting out of hand. now i’m wishing for his failure. and i haven’t wished this hard since taylor hicks.

and don’t worry about the new years special. ryan seacrest is a part of it and he loves adam. they just won’t give him dancers.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/updated-abcs-good-morning-america-cancels-adam-lambert-performance/31728?nc

However, the Parents Television Council (PTC) does not think “GMA” should have canceled Adam’s performance. Dan Isett, Director of Public Policy for the PTC tells Access, “I do think it’s a little bit unfortunate. This is not a personal crusade against Adam Lambert.”

“The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,” Isett continued. “It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.”

CBS has Adam on their website promoting tomorrow

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml?tag=hdr;snav

If he didn’t have such a massive money machine behind him, I’d say that he’s used up about 10 of his 15 minutes. But as it stands, he’s looking more and more like a big ol’ bore with every passing day. Sad.

However, the Parents Television Council (PTC) does not think ‘GMA’  should have canceled Adam’s performance.

OMG LOL This just gets more and more peculiar! Now the Parents TV Council is sort of defending Adam.

Just gives more support to the idea that it actually wasn’t the viewer complaints that made ABC/GMA cancel the appearance.

why adam keep name dropping those people? He does realize that they all have/had a career, right?

Lambert “chose to treat American families to simulated oral sex and other demeaning behavior,” Tim Winter, president of the PTC said on Monday.
ITA with this statement. Adam went too far.

I still like Rob Thomas tweet the best. Love me some Adam but Rob’s comment was too funny.

‘The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,’  Isett continued. ‘It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.’ 

Thank you Mr. Isett – everyone knows ABC could have hit the button on Adam but chose not to until the west coast airing.

ABC is being overreactive and stupid for canceling the GMA show, but good for CBS. This will all blow over, oops!

Elvis Duran’s interview was great! They were lovin’ on him. He really is a sweetie during these interviews.
I like how he pointed out the various acts on the same stage that night that were even earlier in the evening. Yet, he defended them as well. Even Eminem’s Slim Shady’s 17 rapes thingy.

Elvis Duran and Adam video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic9MEmJp1dg&feature=player_embedded

“why adam keep name dropping those people? He does realize that they all have/had a career, right?”

just because they have a career and are established artists doesn’t excuse them from doing “offensive antics” on stage… though I wasn’t personally offended by anything I saw last night…

According to EW, Adam will be doing a sitdown with Letterman. They could have that wrong.

http://bit.ly/7RapVw/

Also, Reuters headline is “Fallout begins but album soars!”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091124/tv_nm/us_lambert_11

Adam you are really making it hard for me to like you. You have such amazing talent, and love almost all the songs on your album. But this “discrimination argument is such TOTAL BS.

I am sorry but a full frontal blowjob on TV is NOT something we have seen on network TV before, (there have been illusions to it but not grab someones face and shove it in your crotch)and something I really don’t want to see unless I order up a XXX movie. So to say that this is the same as someone grabbing thier crotch or braking bottles come on.
You said your performance was appropriate for the timeslot you were in, yet when Ryan asked if he was earlier, would his performance have been tamer, and of course you avoided answering that question. So how is GMA supposed to be able to trust you in an early morning time slot when families are starting thier day. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say your an artist that needs to express himself which ever way it flows out of you, and then be shocked that people won’t trust you with an early time slot (which, if I remeber correctly you talked about sex toys on your last appearance of GMA).

I’m looking forward to your Letterman appearnce, so glad you’re not singing FYE.

I still think the only shallow hypocrite in this bunch is Adam. I’m sure he’s loving this. Still totally clueless.

BTW, if the “snorkling” was “in the moment” then how could saying it was “choreography” be an excuse? Get better at keeping your stories straight.

I’m sad that Sandra Bernhard is defending him, but I can’t say I’m surprised. I just hope he doesn’t cross her. She’ll skewer him down the road. lol

CBS has Adam on their website promoting tomorrow

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml?tag=hdr;snav

ABC’s loss is CBS’s gain. HAHA.
The Elvis Duran interview was great. How can you not love him?

But as it stands, he’s looking more and more like a big ol’ bore with every passing day. Sad.

LMAO, he’s anything but boring. If he was boring, no one would be commenting on him, but here he is, crashing MJ’s server for the third time today, trending on twitter for the 2nd day straight, having his single move up on itunes and keeping his deluxe album nice and steady.

God, I’m so sick of him and his “controversies” already.

eta: I’m sure he’ll be rescheduled on GMA sooner rather than later.

I am sorry but a full frontal blowjob on TV is NOT something we have seen on network TV before,

Umm are we exaggerating a little bit here? I didn’t see anyone’s clothes off, or any flesh, or any body parts. Gee next people will be saying that he climaxed and had a wet spot on the front of his pants. You’re probably right that we haven’t seen it on network before, but we certainly didn’t see it during Adam’s performance on the AMA’s I guess Rihanna’s singing about committing suicide was acceptable and we’re all glad about the fact that millions of teenagers saw that.

to simulated oral sex and other demeaning behavior,’ 

Ya see that’s the thing in a nutshell, oral sex AND other demeaning behavior. How is it demeaning, sex is sex. Normal, nice, and natural. They are a bunch of maniacs.

This whole thing about appropriateness is just ludicrous. I was watching the AMA’s with my three daughters, aged 12, 18, and 22. Every time they made another anouncement about Adam I became concerned. At 10:30 I sent the youngest one to bed. Under protest of course. I told I thought Adam was going to do something maybe she shouldn’t see. You see, I am a vigilant parent, and I knew that they knew that something was gonna happen. After the bleepfest that was the Eminem and 50 cent performance, I knew Adam must be planning to top that, I mean they were telegraphing the damn thing….so I would have no reason to be upset when something adult happened. And that is how I explained it to my daughter. I also asked her the next day after school was anyone talking about it, she said, nah. This is over kill and it’s ridiculous. Instead of making an example of Adam, this just might be making him, and believe it, his 15 minutes has been extended, because after the shock of all of this drama, the awe is his voice, and his talent.

According to EW, Adam will be doing a sitdown with Letterman. They could have that wrong.

Hmm. I think they have it wrong. People in the studio audience that day said he just sang and that was it. Unless, Dave called him back for a sit-down today. Who knows?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/24/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5762324.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel

(CBS) Adam Lambert’s racy American Music Awards performance may have been too much for “Good Morning America,” so he is bringing his act to “The Early Show.”

HA! I LOVE CBS now.

He first says that it was OK because it was “late-night TV,” but then when Ryan asks him if he would have done the same thing if it had been 8:30, he says “I wasn’t really thinking about it that way Ryan, to be honest.” Hmm.

You see, I am a vigilant parent,

Some parents are vigilant, too. They happend to have a life and don’t obssess over Adam online enough to know what this new artist is going to do.

People are sick of him, but yet they can’t stay away. There will be many many controversies some his doing and some not. Can’t blame all the media hoopla on him. Yes Sunday was all him, but that OUT stuff wasn’t.

I adore him and his music. No, I wasn’t crazy about Sunday night but that was just one night.

am sorry but a full frontal blowjob on TV is NOT something we have seen on network TV before,

Umm are we exaggerating a little bit here? I didn’t see anyone’s clothes off, or any flesh, or any body parts.

Were you here yesterday? I believe some people were calling it sexual assault.

Yes and Lady GaGa breaking whisky bottles over the piano keys and simulating death at the end is good for children. Definitely (shakes head)

Will, did you like the cd?

I believe Mr. Lambert’s testing the extent of his audience’ (and by that i mean both fans and non fans) tolerance to the things he is capable of doing (not that he can necessarily pull them off). If he doesn’t tone it all down, he’ll be eaten alive. I’m glad he isn’t apologizing for the fact that he wanted to put out “that” kind of performance. He has to own it. Too bad he did terrible… especially since his greatest asset is his voice…

What an ass. What can you expect from a guy who can’t even admit that he was pitchy and blames the sound system for it? Yes, sweetie, hide behind artistic freedom or discrimination or whatever controversy you want to drum because you’re the fucking best Idol EVAH!

Spectacle before talent, controversy over substance. Yes, it’s all about the music for you, isn’t it?

ETA: Didn’t he say he loves pushing people’s buttons? Well, sometimes, people with more clout, power & money push back. So how’s that going for him?

So sick of all of the manufactured drama. “Guess what folks, ABC won’t put Lambert on to perform but CBS will….” RCA PR is working double time to keep him in the spotlight. Bored now, when does the next season of AI begin?

At this rate, Adam could fail to make the BB 200 and the media would still proclaim he had a #1 album. He is not #4 on overall ITunes, he is #4 on Pop. If they don’t like the numbers, they just lie about them.

BTW, LOVED hearing What Do Ya Want From Me on the radio. Sounds so good.

And the peeps at the Elvis Duran Show really GET why most of us didn’t think Adam’s performance was a big deal. I like that.

I don’t know. He’s sounding a bit like those idols who are going nowhere who claim “I had fun out there” after a bad performance.

It doesn’t change the fact that most people thought it sucked.

I’d love to see him climb the charts to #1, but this ain’t starting very well.

Adam’s cluelessness is getting on my nerves. My 14 year old daughter didn’t see it and after I watched it I erased it from the TiVo and explained why. However, I didn’t enjoy it. Sorry, but I find subtle sexy. That’s why I have always liked him. He gave just enough. And the fact that he doesn’t understand where the line he crossed was is beyond me. However, even if he had stood there alone on stage I wouldn’t have enjoyed the vocals. They were just off. Period. I am also very interesed in why no one has asked him why he felt the need to flip off the audience at the end. I just didn’t get his anger. His arrogance in all this is turning me off.

Madalay, what I was referring to was the persons face being being shoved into Adam’s crotch. I’ve never seen that on TV before. It’s always been alluded to (ie a shot of a person going down, then a reaction shot from the person recieving)

And please don’t exagerate either Rihanna didn’t sing Russian Roulette on the AMA’s. (A song I can’t stand BTW)

Adam as sweet and humble? Really?

Oh, I bet you thought that I was soft and sweet
‘Ya fallen angel swept ya off your feet
Well I’m about to turn up the heat
I’m here for your entertainment

Adam claimed to be proud that he got carried away. “Merely interpreting the words of the song”. No apologies in order. “I’m not a babysitter, I’m a performer”. “I got up on stage and had a good time”. Doesn’t think about what time it was and who was watching. And my favorite Adam go-to line: “It’s not that big of a deal”.

Again, sweet and humble?

LOL. All of this Adam failure is making me salivate.

RCA PR is working double time to keep him in the spotlight. Bored now, when does the next season of AI begin?

Who knows….maybe CBS went to him!!!

‘The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,’  Isett continued. ‘It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.’ 

Thank you Mr. Isett – everyone knows ABC could have hit the button on Adam but chose not to until the west coast airing.

ABC is being overreactive for canceling the GMA show, but good for CBS. This will all blow over, oops!

And in response to an earlier post on the other thread, I will not be googling the fall of the Roman empire, I went to Catholic school a million years ago and that was one of the nuns’ favorite topics so I know all about it. We have many villains in the churches, corporate American, and in politics (local, state and federal) not to mention our horrible crime and divorce rate, but it is much convenient to blame everything on entertainers. Not that I agree with everything Adam, but me thinks the empire will survive.

WOW!! Adam is really doing great….as a ‘tabloid’ star. way to go Adam! Paris who? Lindsey who? Kim who?

I am sorry but a full frontal blowjob on TV is NOT something we have seen

I guess you don’t watch SYTYCD and DWTS.

“but right now, all i’m thinking is what a jackass he is being. he wouldn’t admit what he did could be deemed offensive and vulgar and i’m NOT talking about the kiss. instead he is hiding behind artistic license. what exactly was his art trying to say. that he is such a badass that everyone wants him and he can do what he pleases with them. adam’s ego seems to be getting out of hand. now i’m wishing for his failure. and i haven’t wished this hard since taylor hicks.”

why should Adam admit that what he did was vulgar if he doesn’t think so..just to pacify the people who are criticzing him? I think I would lose respect for him if he did. Anyway, it would never satisify the haters no matter what he did or said they will hate him no matter what… I don’t understand why people hate so much..If I don’t like someone, I just move on…never wished anyone failure…always liked Taylor Hicks

Some parents are vigilant, too. They happend to have a life and don’t obssess over Adam online enough to know what this new artist is going to do.

What did this new artist do that was more offensive than anything else on the stage that night? Seriously, I’d love to know. If people were okay with all the other choreography, that involved plenty of simulated sex acts, why should they be upset by Adam’s performance? You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s all bad, or none of it is. And if it’s all bad, why didn’t the parents turn off their TVs the moment Janet Jackson grabbed herself a handful of guy junk?

I think hypocrites are people with double standards. Adam doesn’t have double standards. But, ABC does. And many of the people doing the griping seem to as well.

Will, did you like the cd?

There’s a CD??? OH, you mean that thing that was released yesterday called For Your Entertainment? Thank you for mentioning it.

As the kids say, I floved it!

Will, did you like the cd?

There’s a CD??? OH, you mean that thing that was released yesterday called For Your Entertainment? Thank you for mentioning it.

As the kids say, I floved it!

I lurrved it!

Oh, man, I just listened to the Elvis Duran interview… I LOVE THIS GUY!!!! I just can’t understand how anybody could possibly hate him. I love you Adam, and I would really like to get a chance to tell him personally. But I am many, many countries away…

I am sorry but a full frontal blowjob on TV is NOT something we have seen

And you didn’t see it Sunday night, either.

I’m not a hater, but I thought Adam was over the top Sunday night. The kiss wasn’t edited out by ABC for the west coast feed but grabbing the guy’s head and grinding it against his crotch was. To me, that is demeaning behavior. I also didn’t like him dragging the woman across the stage by her leg and using leashes as straps against the guy’s backs. Very tacky, imo and totally unnecessary.

Adam can sing. He needs to prove that to the larger audience out there and he is the one that messed up his opportunity to do that the other night. He did a lousy job singing. On top of that, his production number was tacky and demeaning. Why do that? Because it gets people talking. Nothing that is happening is making him or his marketing group unhappy.

BTW, @SandraBernhard obviously doesn’t know the meaning of the word prudent! (Beginning of the comments thread)

why should Adam admit that what he did was vulgar if he doesn’t think so..

Maybe Adam is just stupid.

will
11/24/2009 at 3:21 pm

Will, did you like the cd?

There’s a CD??? OH, you mean that thing that was released yesterday called For Your Entertainment? Thank you for mentioning it.

As the kids say, I floved it!

Which one(s) is your favorite?

“Again, sweet and humble?”

As a whole, I believe he is. This is basing from all the interviews, people’s accounts and videos I’ve seen… which I think would weigh more than a disastrous, pitchy, sexually explicit performance…

Some parents are vigilant, too. They happend to have a life and don’t obssess over Adam online enough to know what this new artist is going to do.

I wasn’t online when the announcers were telling me that Adam was going to do a shocking performance. If anyone was surprised maybe they should have purchased a clue. It has nothing to do with obsession and everything to do with keeping your eyes and ears open. That is my job as a parent and has nothing to do with spending some time on a blog. I don’t live here trolling and bottom feeding…..

Adam on MTV in 10 minutesd- Alexa Chung! He’s gonna sing!

Did you all see THIS! The Parents Television Council thinks ABC overreacted! Holy Cow!

http://gossipcandy.com/2009/11/yahoo-article-says-ptc-disagrees-with-gma-cancellation/

Adam’s cluelessness is getting on my nerves.

I would describe Adam in many ways but NEVER Clueless

I don’t know. He’s sounding a bit like those idols who are going nowhere who claim ‘I had fun out there’  after a bad performance.

As much as it pains me to admit it, that comment is spot-on.

If Adam wasnt gay, and it was another male performer that wasnt gay, doing the exact same things, nothing would have been said or done. Its all about Adam being gay, and whomever at ABC is getting flack over it. All that other crap that happened all nite was all just as bad. Unfortunatly for Adam, he had to sit thru it all and watch it, and got some bright idea that he could go there. JMO

what does adam expect? Stuff like that is going to happen when you “push the envelope.” It wasn’t one little kiss-like with Madonna and the girls back a few years ago. He shoved a guys head into his own crotch. She grabbed a woman by the hair. He palmed a woman’s crotch. A woman held his balls in her hand. He “walked” another person, who was in a collar and harness like a dog (maybe THAT’S the other demeaning behavior that ABC was referring to). And he roughly kissed someone. To me, that it was two men was nothing–it was the aggression and all the disrespecting so many crotches.

when he fell, and then he rolled with it and got up in a continuous movement–that was awesome. (It was also the only spontaneous thing about that performance.) Everything else sucked. Adam didn’t sing well. The dancers didn’t really dance. And a lot of the touches glorified abusive situations–very rough touching, as if that’s okay in real life.

All that said, Adam is a genius. The entertainment media will talk about this for months or more. If he’s not a millionaire already, he will be.

There’s a CD??? OH, you mean that thing that was released yesterday called For Your Entertainment? Thank you for mentioning it.

As the kids say, I floved it!

Will! You finally heard the songs!!

Oh, man, I just listened to the Elvis Duran interview’ ¦ I LOVE THIS GUY!!!! I just can’t understand how anybody could possibly hate him. I love you Adam, and I would really like to get a chance to tell him personally. But I am many, many countries away’ ¦

He is SO sweet and funny and he explains everything so well-he was PERFORMING the lyrics of that song. Dang, Adam!

Will, you have to tell us your favourite song!

BTW, @SandraBernhard obviously doesn’t know the meaning of the word prudent! (Beginning of the comments thread)

Yeah, I was about to say…. homophobic.. and prudent? lmao..

Okay, I want him to say “different strokes for different folks” in the next interview when they ask him about the AMA’s.

“I don’t know. He’s sounding a bit like those idols who are going nowhere who claim ‘I had fun out there’  after a bad performance.”

“As much as it pains me to admit it, that comment is spot-on.”

I hope this isn’t true. So much talent in there to be disappear in oblivion.

when he fell, and then he rolled with it and got up in a continuous movement’“that was awesome.

I love how he said in the Elvis Duran interview that he didn’t know he could do that. I’m SO glad he didn’t fall on his ass like J-Lo

@jambajim: In 64 minutes I'll be interviewing @adamlambert !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …
less than a minute ago from web

Which one(s) is your favorite?

I’m pleased to say I can’t pick a favorite at this point, because I was blown away by the whole thing. I will say that “For Your Entertainment” is the song I like the least, but even that I like better in the context of the album.

“the spirit of rock and roll is alive and well”….ha! oh, adam just get over yourself. maybe then i can enjoy your peformances. its quite telling when adam was asked if he would have performed that way on Idol…and responds ‘i didnt sing any song with that subject matter”. BULL SHYT. So he’s saying that IF he was singing a racy/sexy song, then he would have shoved his tongue down Ricky Minor? LOL. just man up Adam and admit there are times when you will need to tone it down for certain audiences. it doesnt make you a sell out, it makes you a grownup.

‘The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,’  Isett continued. ‘It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.’ 

Yes, even the Parents’ Television Council thinks ABC is making a mountain out of a molehill.

If Adam wasnt gay, and it was another male performer that wasnt gay, doing the exact same things, nothing would have been said or done.

With respect, I disagree. It wasn’t just a peck between men. That dog thing? The hands on the crotches–men and women. There was a lot of simulated aggression for our entertainment. ABC wasn’t entertained.

WOW!! Adam is really doing great’ ¦.as a ‘tabloid’ star. way to go Adam! Paris who? Lindsey who? Kim who?

So with Adam we get a twofer, he can entertain us, and look cute too. And then afterwards he has something intelligent to say. I’d say pay the man. He is here after all FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT! LOL.

If Adam wasnt gay, and it was another male performer that wasnt gay, doing the exact same things, nothing would have been said or done.

Can you cite any examples? When has a straight male performer, performing on network TV, done what Adam did at the AMAs and was not punished or reproached for it?

“What an ass. What can you expect from a guy who can’t even admit that he was pitchy and blames the sound system for it?”

looks like he does admit it..from his twitter

@PerezHilton Thank you for the support. It WAS a bit pitchy. Don’t know what was goin on with the sound. Same thing always went down on idol

referring to the theater I think

‘I don’t know. He’s sounding a bit like those idols who are going nowhere who claim ‘I had fun out there’  after a bad performance.’ 

‘As much as it pains me to admit it, that comment is spot-on.’ 

Yep. This is why CBS booked Adam to perform live and a sit-down interview.

He’s going to have successes. He might have people against him. Which is exactly what happened to Elvis, the Beatles, to Prince. . . . There will be controversy, and there will be opinions. If he stays true to himself he will be one of those great artists to watch over the years.’ 

Honestly this is just the kind of comment that makes people laugh and shake their heads. Adam came 2nd in a reality TV singing show, then put out an OK album of throwaway pop tunes which so far is failing to get any radio play.

He may one day be an interesting artist, but he’s not yet. And to lump him in with those guys is ridiculous. Those guys all revolutionized music and the Beatles and Prince wrote every note that they sang.

Adam is singing stuff handed to him by people who make a living writing hits. Worlds apart.

Oh sure, blow jobs on tv, that’s normal right? Wrong. By the way, we did see it. I saw it, it lasted plenty long until the camera pulled away to the audience and the band. It went on for quite awhile. It was OTT and I don’t want to see that on network tv, hetero or homosexual makes no difference. I don’t want to see Adam whipping men crawling on the floor wearing leashes and reins, either. Grabbing that girl’s crotch, snapping her gstring or whatever. It was all very demeaning and inappropriate.

I don’t feel the least bit sorry for Adam. He is loving the controversy. This is what he wanted, and he’s getting it. I’m so over him. I liked him on the show, but have steadily grown to dislike him since the show ended, because he is crass, and full of himself. Every day he’s arguing with someone else, and it’s always “their” fault, never his. Poor Adam, so discriminated against, whine whine. His attitude makes him get less sympathy instead of more.

I was going to buy his cd, but now I won’t because I am not liking him these days. And selling it for $3.99 the first week seems like cheating to me, but whatever. I really don’t care how much he sells. I’m glad that GMA cancelled him. He pulled that sh*t on them and then cries discrimination. How phony.

He’s a train wreck and will probably continue to be one. He has an attitude problem, it’s clear. Adam acts outrageously because he wants controversy, so he got it. Big surprise. I thought when he sang songs like Mad World that he had a sensitive side, but I really think now it was all an act. The kind of show he wants to do should be in a club that people pay to see and know exactly what they’re getting into. Not on network tv, that is supposed to be for everyone to watch.

There’s a lot on tv that is appalling these days, a lot that’s violent and graphic, but I don’t watch it. And I won’t be watching Adam, or listening to him either. If I watch anything it will be like watching a train wreck out of curiosity. I actually find it funny that someone so over-hyped is imploding, it seems fitting somehow. I think he bought into his own press, and that’s never a smart thing to do. Somehow the higher up on a pedastol people put a person, the less sorry you feel when they fall.

By the way I LOVE GAY MEN, have had very close gay male friends, but someone like Adam is not likable and it’s nothing to do with sexual orientation, though people try to make it into that. There have been other performers who relied on shock to make their name, Madonna for instance, but she was a pro and knew what she was doing. Adam is so conceited it’s ridiculous. He’s been famous for 15 minutes and he thinks he’s god’s gift to music. What a joke.

BTW: Nobody watches the Early Show on CBS. They’ll do anything for ratings. Not really a coup, but a downgrade.
I am SO GLAD now that Adam didn’t win Idol. Kris is gaining in respect in his quiet way while Adam is squandering the positive momentum he had. Sure some people will still like him, those who love a rebel, but myself, I love a rebel who’s rebelling against something meaningful and real, not whining because they can’t give blow jobs on tv.

I wasn’t online when the announcers were telling me that Adam was going to do a shocking performance. If anyone was surprised maybe they should have purchased a clue. It has nothing to do with obsession and everything to do with keeping your eyes and ears open. That is my job as a parent and has nothing to do with spending some time on a blog. I don’t live here trolling and bottom feeding’ ¦..

Well, i think your parental skills are questonnable, same way that you accuse other parent’s skills for not knowing Adam’s doing to perform sex acts on stage.

“@jambajim: In 64 minutes I’ll be interviewing @adamlambert !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ‘ ¦
less than a minute ago from web”

Oh damn… I haven’t had sleep for 18 hours… and to wait another 64 minutes??? sigh…

Adam has three FYE albums charting on itunes

#6 #7 and #21 overall

#4 #6 and #11 on pop

Why would 3 be charting?

I hope this isn’t true. So much talent in there to be disappear in oblivion.

Call me crazy, but I’d kind of call what’s happening here the opposite of oblivion, lol.

Adam has three FYE albums charting on itunes

#6 #7 and #21 overall

#4 #6 and #11 on pop

Why would 3 be charting?

huh? Please don’t tell me it’s the bastard child?

To be fair about the whole “parents need to be vigilant” thing…. You don’t know how vulgar something is unless there is either a warning, or until you see it. There was no cautionary introduction for Adam that said what he was about to do was obscene… especially because half of it wasn’t even cleared by ABC. So some people are bad parents because they let their child watch an award show and do not possess the gift of foresight? I didn’t know how bad Adam’s performance was until I saw it.. and at that point, what was seen could not be unseen. and again… it’s broadcast. You don’t expect shit like that on broadcast.

He’s sounding a bit like those idols who are going nowhere who claim ‘I had fun out there’  after a bad performance.

Nah. Sorry, but Adam always says this about his performances, even when he’s being praised to the heavens. BTW, I think he’s been well-spoken about this. He’s not angry with anyone. He just doesn’t think what he did should be that huge of a deal considering the content of the what’s on those types of shows. I happen to agree. I get that there are others who are going to find ways to somehow prove that what Adam did was far worse than anything else, yet ignore the pink elephant in the room – the fact that it was man-on-man crotch grinding and kissing.

Again, there were plenty of times throughout the night for people who are upset by overt sexuality and violence to turn off their TV sets. You didn’t have to wait for Adam for that.

With respect, I disagree. It wasn’t just a peck between men. That dog thing? The hands on the crotches’“men and women. There was a lot of simulated aggression for our entertainment. ABC wasn’t entertained.

Nope, it was some down and dirty tonsil hockey going on there. But if that is the scale on which we are weighing simulated aggression, then I guess that V, Flashfoward (where week before last someone took a header off a tall building to his demise), or my favorite new comedy Modern Family (where a couple of weeks ago a teenage boy sings a song to his girlfriend, in front of her family where he talks about how badly he wants to do her). I think the girl is 15 if not a day younger…..all in prime time should be cancelled soon? They are hypocrites, and this whole thing is BS. I am happy it is all happening though because this is exactly what makes careers. You’ve got sex, censorship, discrimination, recrimination, singing, dancing, and angst. Hell he could not have written this thing any better if he had tried. Master Plan, oh yeah, if they didn’t have one, they have it now.

Adam has three FYE albums charting on itunes

#6 #7 and #21 overall

#4 #6 and #11 on pop

Why would 3 be charting?

huh? Please don’t tell me it’s the bastard child?

nope not a bastard child I believes it’s behind the scenes videos

In Canada all three are in the top 10 on the pop chart

#6 #7 and #21 overall

What? I can only see #6 and #10.

My replies aren’t working so I will just type it…

When a person doesn’t understand that many people without children found his performance vulgar and unnecessary, yes dear, he is clueless. For me it wasn’t about my child, it was about good taste and class. I thought he had both. He didn’t prove it Sunday.

If he wants to “act out lyrics” he needs to stay in theater…they do exactly that. I expect a true artist to go beyond the mere words. Especially since I got a VERY DIFFERENT meaning from the song when I listened to it.

And to those that are using the excuse that this is because he is gay…I call bulls**t. When Flo Ryda performed “Right Round” on Idol I was upset about that. I am sorry, when anyone is degrading I find it offensive. I think Adam as well as some of his fans, are using cop outs.

Every day he’s arguing with someone else, and it’s always ‘their’  fault, never his.

That’s one of my biggest issue with him. He needs to own up.. he’s nearly 30 for heaven’s sake.

um is there a YouTube for the radio interview?

I hope this isn’t true. So much talent in there to be disappear in oblivion.

Call me crazy, but I’d kind of call what’s happening here the opposite of oblivion, lol.

LOL… yeah, using “oblivion” isn’t really the appropriate term to use at this point =)

Awww- he was so cute on Alexa Chung! And they showed the FYE video! HOT!

huh? Please don’t tell me it’s the bastard child?

It is showing FYE again at #23. When you click on it, it says that it’s the behind the scenes at the photoshoot and in the studio. They’re the only things listed and the price is $16.00. More iTunes weirdness.

Adam is singing stuff handed to him by people who make a living writing hits. Worlds apart.

Oh please let’s not rehash that old hobby horse. He did write some of the songs on his album and if you like I can make a list of dozens of ICONIC singers who never wrote a word or a note.

Awww- he was so cute on Alexa Chung! And they showed the FYE video! HOT!

Stuck at work….any video?

Adam is singing stuff handed to him by people who make a living writing hits. Worlds apart.

Yep, cause Aretha and Elvis wrote all of their own material, right? Worlds apart indeed.

oceana, I just watched it a again on my iphone, the act was 2 seconds before they cut away. Hardly what I’d call ‘went on for a while’

I still am only upset he was pitchy. Hopefully he sounds good on Letterman.

Adam came 2nd in a reality TV singing show, then put out an OK album of throwaway pop tunes which so far is failing to get any radio play.

Actually, it is just this kind of comment that makes people laugh and shake their heads.

It’s the number one show on television that introduces relative no-names to tens of millions of people. His album, which was produced in three short months, is a eclectic mix of rock-infused pop and ballads that has been favorably rated by the majority of music reviewers (higher than the winner’s, Kris Allen’s, certainly) and it’s received little radio play because the promotion just started two days ago.

Oh, and I think a lot of people have their opinions on why he came in second. I’m sure mine would differ from yours.

“”"He may one day be an interesting artist, but he’s not yet”"”

LOL ^^ he is not interesting ? that must be why he is on every news outlet and blog and on TV – because he isnt very interesting yet?

First ABC cancelled Adam’s GMA Concert tomorrow because of some ‘worries’ (yeah..right?!) after his AMA performance Sunday.

Now ‘The Parent Television Council (PTC) doesn’t think the GMA
should have cancelled Adam’s concert tomorrow!

And Barbara Walters of ABC has just finished interviewing Adam for her ‘special’ (What?…ya mean ABC didn’t see fit to cancel her interview, also?!)

Well, I feel like I’m watching some really bad soap opera right now! lol

ABC you are such hypercrits!

Squirrelly could you please tell me what Rob Thomas tweeted? I missed that one!

Every day he’s arguing with someone else, and it’s always ‘their’  fault, never his.

That’s one of my biggest issues with him. He needs to own up.. he’s nearly 30 for heaven’s sake.

Everyone see things differently – have not seen Adam pass the buck on anything that has happened since idol. everyone’s mileage certainly does varies

and at that point, what was seen could not be unseen. and again’ ¦ it’s broadcast. You don’t expect shit like that on broadcast.

And again .. the whole show was filled with that shit – as it is every year. It’s just that people say, “OK. Male dancers fondling and humping female dancers? Cool.” “Rhianna wear S&M/bondage gear? Cool.” “Eminem singing about rape? Awesome.” But, we draw the line at this and this. Why? Why say simulated intercourse from behind is okay, but a simulated blow job is not?

is posting a link allowed here? I may offend Ms. Santilli. I dunno. Please feel free to delete this link if ever =)

to luvadamlamert:

here’s a link…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-IIHVUQoOU&feature=player_embedded

LOL ^^ he is not interesting ? that must be why he is on every news outlet and blog and on TV ‘“ because he isnt very interesting yet?

Speaking for myself, his whole schtick is a bore.

gotta love Rob Cavallo:

“He’s going to have successes. He might have people against him. Which is exactly what happened to Elvis, the Beatles, to Prince. . . . There will be controversy, and there will be opinions. If he stays true to himself he will be one of those great artists to watch over the years.’ 

Rob Cavallo

When Flo Ryda performed ‘Right Round’  on Idol I was upset about that.

I was too. But I think I notice a heck of a lot of people, a whale of a lot of people, a bazillion more people being all bent out of shape about Adam’s performance than I did about Flo Ryda’s. In fact, I seem to recall saying either here and/or on some other web site that I thought Flo Ryda’s thing was inappropriate for the show and being shouted down by AI fans, with hardly anybody agreeing with me.

So when I see what looks to me like a *huge* difference in level of response — and when Adam’s thing was on way later and, unlike Flo Ryda’s, was on a show where there was tons of other sex simulation going on all over the place, I wonder.

How come hardly anybody was upset about Floryda in the 9 to 10 o’clock hour doing that song and the dancing on squeaky-clean American Idol, while a ton of people are deeply outraged about Adam doing his thing in the 10 to 11 o’clock hour on a show that had already featured a ton of sex simulation, four-letter words, etc., in the its previous two hours and 45 minutes? There has to be a reason for the difference, right?

Holy crap, the behind the scenes IS charting at #22!

FYE the single is @46

He might have people against him. Which is exactly what happened to Elvis, the Beatles, to Prince. . . .

LOL LOL. Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Comparing him to Elvis and the Beatles is exactly one of the reasons people get turned off to him. Adam is a newcomer in the music industry. It’s insulting to icons like the Beatles to compare a newcomer to them.

This whole argument that Adam is “pushing the envelope” so he should be admired is ridiculous. Pushing the envelope just to be an ass and annoy and shock people isn’t meaningful to anyone. Elvis was just dancing. He was sexy. Adam was not sexy the other night. Let someone push the envelope in ways that mean something, not just see who can be the most shocking. Anyone can give a blow job. It doesn’t take skill or artistry. Anyone can shock people. But to move people, that’s another story. To sing so good that people still listen to you fifty years later, that’s an accomplishment. To write songs that people still want to sing 40 years later, that’s an accomplishment too. But shocking people is nothing. Like I said, anyone can do it. Children do it, but adults outgrow it.

I’m a parent, didn’t let my kid watch because the first performance was Janet Jackson rubbing some guy’s junk . . . at 8 p.m. If you still have your kids up on a school night at 11 p.m. after letting them watch 17 explicit performances, there’s a word to describe that kind of parenting . . . absent.

I guess straight handjobs are okay? LOL

These parents bitching about “oh the children” just don’t get it, do they? You’re going to let your kids watch a music awards show, where the entertainment is always over the top and risque – knowing the acts performing are Janet Jackson, Shakira, Eminem, Lady Gaga, etc. – and then cry foul when Adam is OTT and risque? Really? That just reeks of idiocy to me. Or, perhaps people are telling themselves it’s because of the poor children that they are turned off and upset.
ABC themselves were salaciously hyping Adam’s performance as being sexy, they saw the costumes, the leashes, the routine, etc. prior to the show.
Then when Adam gives them what they hyped they cancel him from GMA? When he performed perfectly capably and sweetly the last time he was on GMA?
Sorry, but they used Adam the same way Aaron Hicklin used Adam – as a draw. Then, in a fit of buyer’s remorse, dumped him. Ridiculous.
Anyway, they just gave Adam’s fledgling career a huge boost. Everyone is talking about Adam today.

To be fair about the whole ‘parents need to be vigilant’  thing’ ¦. You don’t know how vulgar something is unless there is either a warning, or until you see it. There was no cautionary introduction for Adam that said what he was about to do was obscene’ ¦ especially because half of it wasn’t even cleared by ABC. So some people are bad parents because they let their child watch an award show and do not possess the gift of foresight? I didn’t know how bad Adam’s performance was until I saw it.. and at that point, what was seen could not be unseen. and again’ ¦ it’s broadcast. You don’t expect shit like that on broadcast

Sorry Allison…they announced 3 to 4 times that Adam would be blowing the roof off the building. What did you think they meant after seeing all the other raunchy performances that you didn’t turn off

This whole argument that Adam is ‘pushing the envelope’  so he should be admired is ridiculous. Pushing the envelope just to be an ass and annoy and shock people isn’t meaningful to anyone. Elvis was just dancing. He was sexy. Adam was not sexy the other night. Let someone push the envelope in ways that mean something, not just see who can be the most shocking. Anyone can give a blow job. It doesn’t take skill or artistry. Anyone can shock people. But to move people, that’s another story.

THIS. I agree with every word, oceana.

Well, i think your parental skills are questonnable, same way that you accuse other parent’s skills for not knowing Adam’s doing to perform sex acts on stage.

Damn he did that, and I missed it. And if you think that was a cogent response to what I said, kewl!

Go back and read it again, slowly. Or maybe go back and listen to all of the announcements leading up to his performance. I guess I might be smarter than the average bear, cause I KNEW something was going to happen that children might not need to see. Of course I didn’t expect Adam to perform sex acts on stage, guess why? Because he didn’t! But anyway, thanks for playing. I am moving away from this sand box for now.

just man up Adam and admit there are times when you will need to tone it down for certain audiences. it doesnt make you a sell out, it makes you a grownup.

THIS! Thank you!

I was just having this great conversation a few days ago with the parents of an 8yr old and a 5 yr old – a married, lesbian couple, fwiw – about how hard it is for them to find things their kids can watch on network tv. I hadn’t realized how much things had changed. The morning shows are family hours, and should be. If he’s so immature that he can’t get that, and acknowledge it, then he’s digging his own hole.

Holy crap, the behind the scenes IS charting at #22!

Guess people think he’s a visual entertainer after all, lol.

He is SO sweet and funny and he explains everything so well-he was PERFORMING the lyrics of that song. Dang, Adam!

Of course he was performing the lyrics to the song. Is that supposed to be a revelation? Don’t get why that’s an excuse.

LOL. I love this. It’s everyone’s fault but Adam’s. These comments are just a joy to read.

Why is it charting separately when it’s part of the deluxe package?

“LOL LOL. Excuse me while I laugh my head off. Comparing him to Elvis and the Beatles is exactly one of the reasons people get turned off to him. Adam is a newcomer in the music industry. It’s insulting to icons like the Beatles to compare a newcomer to them.

This whole argument that Adam is ‘pushing the envelope’  so he should be admired is ridiculous. Pushing the envelope just to be an ass and annoy and shock people isn’t meaningful to anyone. Elvis was just dancing. He was sexy. Adam was not sexy the other night. Let someone push the envelope in ways that mean something, not just see who can be the most shocking. Anyone can give a blow job. It doesn’t take skill or artistry. Anyone can shock people. But to move people, that’s another story. To sing so good that people still listen to you fifty years later, that’s an accomplishment. To write songs that people still want to sing 40 years later, that’s an accomplishment too. But shocking people is nothing. Like I said, anyone can do it. Children do it, but adults outgrow it.”

Ditto. I agree with oceana 100%

or my favorite new comedy Modern Family (where a couple of weeks ago a teenage boy sings a song to his girlfriend, in front of her family where he talks about how badly he wants to do her). I think the girl is 15 if not a day younger’ ¦..all in prime time should be cancelled soon? They are hypocrites, and this whole thing is BS.

It’s my favorite new comedy too. That bit was cute, sweet, and funny. Not at all comparable to Adam’s performance. Geez come on, you really can’t see the difference? Apples and oranges. That was a moment of innocence. The kind of thing a clueless teenager does.

They didnt think he would be BLOWING. HEHE

anyone has that ALEXA CHUNG interview clip?

do the people watching the AMA’s who were offended or didn’t like Adam’s performace not have “off” buttons on their remote controls?

If there;s something on the TV that I’m not enjoying watching I just switch it over or off .. personally I find god bothering and being preached at on TV shows offensive so when that kind of stuff comes on I just switch over and leave each to their own.

I can perhaps understand the producers getting a bit p*ssed if it was a different performance to the one in rehearsals … but to all those complaining after watching it .. surely it’s not the first time they’ve seen that kind of thing on their TV or in real lives .. either as part of a performance or as part of a movie or TV programme or other music video.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood were doing the whole S&M thing in their video’s way back in the 80′s .. yes some were banned but it just made people more curious to watch or buy.

Why is it charting separately when it’s part of the deluxe package?

They seem to be letting everything sell separately, the bonus songs, this. … Probably another Itunes glitch. But actually I think it’s probably a good thing to give people all these options — even if it’s accidental, which it probably is!

or my favorite new comedy Modern Family (where a couple of weeks ago a teenage boy sings a song to his girlfriend, in front of her family where he talks about how badly he wants to do her). I think the girl is 15 if not a day younger’ ¦..all in prime time should be cancelled soon? They are hypocrites, and this whole thing is BS.

I have to admit that song is kinda catchy.

“”I am a conservative and I was not shocked or offended by the AMA performance. We see racy stuff like that all the time – on TV, in movies, even in commercials! My husband and I are raising our 2 kids ourselves (i.e., not letting the media do it for us) and we allow them to be exposed to certain things that other parents likely shield theirs from… Read More; we are always there to offer our viewpoint and let them form their opinions based on all the available information. AL is such an awesome musician/artist and his album is phenomenal. I only regret that many people will not allow themselves to know that because of their opinion of that performance.”"

I saw this comment on facebook and it is basically how I feel, it was on only until 10p here so I let my kids stay up and watch with me, they didnt zone in on the “stuff” they were dancing around to the beat but I was right there with them for any questions they might have had. They are 12,13 and 16.

you keep a child in the closet, so to speak, on issues and then when they head out into the world on their own, they will surely falter and fail never having experienced or seen what is truly out there! Loved your comment and

I’ve been staying as far away as possible from the Idol site after Adam’s AMA performance. It is getting very nasty over there. I love Adam and I’m a big fan. But, that doesn’t mean that I’m all right with the AMA performance. The complaints to ABC, the cancellation of the GMA show, the Parents Television Council urging their followers to complain to the FCC, I’m not surprised one bit.

Yes, I loved most of his performance on Sunday, but the ‘controversial’ details are a different matter. If he wanted to kiss a guy, perform a ‘bj’ scene, he should’ve waited, IMO. Wait after the release of the album, wait until his career is more established, wait until the public outside of the Idol community knows who Adam Lambert is and not just the guy who was the runner-up to Kris Allen on Season 8 of AI.

I completely agree with Adam that there have been numerous female artists over the years that’ve been in ‘controversial’ performances or have crossed the line, so to speak. As an example, artists as Madonna, and that it’s a double standard, got it! But, there is a huge difference between these two artists. Madonna did not ‘come out’ of American Idol. Adam did. With any Idol contestant or winner, there is the pre-conceived notion that these artists are supposed to do no wrong, have a lifestyle that’s holier than thou, fit a certain image; stand on a pedestal, so to speak. Of course I do not agree with this at all, Adam is Adam and he’s always been honest and direct, with himself and with us. I hope that 19 will not request of Adam to apologize to ABC. Let’s not go there. Furthermore, 19 should know that with an artist as ADAM LAMBERT, it’s a whole different game and I am not referring to his orientation, because clearly 19 has supported him from the get go. I’m referring to his beyond belief talent, his artistry, his showmanship, and his bigger than life personality.

Right now, I’m more upset and disgusted with the so called ‘fans’ that have trashed him all over the entire world of the blogs than with the trolls and individuals that have hated him since he appeared on AI. Its one thing to not agree with him on certain issues it’s another to betray him by declaring that ‘I’m no longer a fan’  or ‘I did not expect this from him therefore, I’m done with Adam’ . Please, these individual’s reactions to his performance on Sunday is no different than when the RS article was published, and Adam was ‘thrown under the bus’ by fans that obviously were not true fans to begin with.

Yes, I am disappointed in Adam with his performance on Sunday and it’s not because I’m a homophobic. As I’ve mentioned, it’s because of terrible poor timing that might leave a negative impact on his music career. I hope I’m wrong. As for the parents declaring that ‘my kid watched the show with me, so therefore, this was completely inappropriate for their eyes’ , I am also a mom and I would never ever allow my son to watch the AMA’s, the VMA’s, or whatever the ma’s there are. And these are the same folks that expect Adam to be responsible? Where is your responsibility and example to your kids by allowing them to stay up late and ON A SCHOOL NIGHT? Yes, Adam’s performance was ‘racy’ BUT there were several artists on the AMA’s that had sexually explicit performances as well and although they didn’t ‘I kissed a guy’ but the performances were just as explicit in various ways. I guess most forgot Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Rihanna, Eminems’ very explicit and obscene lyrics. Some people will never stop in making Adam to be the ‘bad guy’. Their loss.

People have the right to say they found Adam’s AMA performance vulgar and disgusting, but many of Us and Adam have the same right to say it was lyrical interpretation and fit the song and the moment. Differing opinions are just that, and really and trully neither is wrong or right.

Gee…the old adage of different strokes for different folks is still alive and well. And I thought Adam was very gracious (during the Ryan interview) at a time when many peeps would be hell bent on crucifying ABC.

Now back to Pick U Up….where does he breath? I’ll figure it out, someday.

Go back and read it again, slowly. Or maybe go back and listen to all of the announcements leading up to his performance. I guess I might be smarter than the average bear, cause I KNEW something was going to happen that children might not need to see. Of course I didn’t expect Adam to perform sex acts on stage, guess why? Because he didn’t! But anyway, thanks for playing. I am moving away from this sand box for now.

I don’t think you are smarter than the average bear. I just think fans obsessing Adam on blogs for months should know better what he’s up to. Apparently some parents, or majority of them, don’t.

They seem to be letting everything sell separately, the bonus songs, this. ‘ ¦ Probably another Itunes glitch. But actually I think it’s probably a good thing to give people all these options ‘” even if it’s accidental, which it probably is!

I love that recording studio behind the scene clip. He was doing a documentary. lol I haven’t listened to the interview in the package yet.

MarleeMatlin:

To all you fans of Adam Lambert. I’m with you. Love or hate him, I an artist who believes in freedom of expression freedom of CHOICE.

If supporting Adam Lamberts right to express and your right to JUDGE if he’s for you or not, then I’m happy to be a GLAMBERT. Freedom rocks.

Luved these two tweets from her! Wow!

Lyndsay’s take

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/295740/adam-lamberts-amagma-controversy-proof-that-any-publicity-is-good-publicity/

Yep. This is why CBS booked Adam to perform live and a sit-down interview.

CBS needs him for the ratings, and since this is more about controversy than talent, people will flock and watch. Like an accident.

Adam was looking to get censored. He did it to cover up for his crapastic performance.

He claims to have gotten lost in the moment, but part of the reason it was such a terrible performance was because he wasn’t. He was nervous and counting steps. There was no chemistry. It was all calculation.

And, if sexy songs cause him to get lost in the moment, why wasn’t Tim getting frenched every other night on the tour during WLL?

I so don’t buy that excuse. Like he would admit that he did it to take attention away from his flop performance.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp. Keep your whining to yourself. You are taking attention away from real issues and dilluting real claims of discrimination.

“”It’s insulting to icons like the Beatles to compare a newcomer to them. “”"

I never could STAND the Beatles so comparing Adam to them sure is insulting to me

The morning shows are family hours, and should be. If he’s so immature that he can’t get that, and acknowledge it, then he’s digging his own hole.

What the hell are you talking about? When did Adam do something offensive on a morning TV show? The answer is NEVER!

As for parents worrying about their children, do they really need to be watching TV several hours every day, no matter what the content. Turn it off and read a book!

The reason people are bringing up their children is probably because Adam got his key to fame by appearing on a reality show that families, that means children, watch together. And a lot of those kids wanted to see him perform his first single. Not every parent knew what to expect. Yes he’s made it clear that he’s no “babysitter” … mighty arrogant words from someone who wouldn’t be where he was if not for American Idol.

But the point is, the performance was offensive and ugly to lots of adults, too. For reasons that have been given at great length. If people want to continue to see it as “gay discrimination” then that is what they will do. But to many of us, this is just a red herring and an easy way to escape responsibility for Adam’s actions.

To me he seems arrogant as hell.

There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

Exactly.

Double standard isn’t sexy, adam.

Lyndsay’s take

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/295740/adam-lamberts-amagma-controversy-proof-that-any-publicity-is-good-publicity/

Good job, Lyndsay.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

Amen sista!

Adam was looking to get censored. He did it to cover up for his crapastic performance.

Oh, he TOLD you this, Kirstan? Glad to know someone around here is “in the know.”

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week.

And this is bullshit spin. First of all, he’s not WHINING (WTF is whinging?). He has said in two interviews today that he understands why the networks are doing what they’re doing. But, he also said that it is discriminatory to allow woman to do certain things but not men. He’s correct. This is bigger than Adam or his career. This is about attude – not towards sexual antics on television, but towards GAY sexual antics.

Preview of FYE MV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4M7g2fxdBE

To be fair about the whole ‘parents need to be vigilant’  thing’ ¦. You don’t know how vulgar something is unless there is either a warning, or until you see it. There was no cautionary introduction for Adam that said what he was about to do was obscene’ ¦ especially because half of it wasn’t even cleared by ABC.

Wrong! They approved it all-except the sim bj. I still say they could have edited it!

If you let your child sit through Janet, Carrie’s dancers, Rihanna, Eminem, and Gaga- then you shouldn’t be shocked about what you saw from Adam.

Did Eminem really rap that Slim Shady has 17 rapes under his belt? Nice.

Sorry Allison’ ¦they announced 3 to 4 times that Adam would be blowing the roof off the building.

Yeah but we didn’t know he meant that literally, lol.

As for Eminem, Janet, etc., personally I fast forward through those people. Now Adam’s putting himself in that same category. Lady GaGa I think is maybe more creative than others. Still and all, I think the leashes and whips and simulated bj outdid everyone else. Which was Adam’s goal, after all. To get even more down and dirty than everyone else. I guess that will be his claim to fame.

There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

I don’t know where you got the feeling he is a crusader. I listen to the inteview with Ryan and he seems to respect ABC’s decision.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

I agree with your whole post!(just didnt wanna quote the whole thing)

There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television?

I hadn’t thought about it that way, but its a good point.

Still, I don’t care about the raunch. Never did. But his attitude towards people who may take issue, particularly parents who might not have seen this coming (on the tour and now on tv) is a little condescending.

It will all blow over soon anyway. No pun intended. Ha.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp. Keep your whining to yourself. You are taking attention away from real issues.

Yeah, I don’t feel *quite* this strongly about it. But, basically, I agree. …

Kind of seems to me as if last week’s censorship karma has kind of come back to bite him in the ass, lol…. Hopefully, he’ll figure out a better way to handle both of these kinds of things from now on…

And, i have to say, I still think that being the first gay, mainstream, straight-from-AI, out-from-the-beginning, former gay-cabaret-performer-but-now-functioning-as-a-hetero-sex-symbol thing probably is pretty difficult to handle for somebody who was nobody a eight months ago and is now presented with these huge opportunities. A lot for him to think and work through.

Adam got his key to fame by appearing on a reality show that families, that means children, watch together. And a lot of those kids wanted to see him perform his first single. Not every parent knew what to expect.

Well, they should have because going into every commercial break they announced something to the equivalent of “Next up the outrageous performance by Adam Lambert that is sure to get people talking… ” etc. Also, racy clips were all over EW and other shows of that ilk. I suppose they felt warm fuzzies watching Eminem get bleeped every other word before Adam went on. If they were wanting to protect their children, they should have restricted them long before Adam’s appearance.

I disagree about discrimintion.I think it’s bs.but im still a die-hard fan. I think if this happen with a female and a male there would still be the same results.but arrogant ?he’ll no.perhaps a little haughty will defending himself for pushing the envelope? big.deal.

He has said in two interviews today that he understands why the networks are doing what they’re doing.

He started whinging about it to anybody who would listen before ABC even censored him.

But, he also said that it is discriminatory to allow woman to do certain things but not men.

Give me one example of another artist who flipped the audience the bird that night that ABC didn’t edit. There is absolutely no discrimination here. He’s the one making a mountain out of a molehill. He keeps using the kiss as an example, but nobody edited that. Strawmen arguments are his stock and trade.

Keep spinning, Adam. If you tell a lie often enough, people will start to believe you.

ET will be playing part of the FYE video tonight

I’m kind of sorry to see so many of Adam’s fans blindly sticking up for him when he messes up. Kind of reminds me of him. Is it so tough to admit it didn’t work, it was a mess, and nobody’s perfect? Okay, yes, it is tough. But he, at least, should do that. jmho.

He was damn pitchy, thats for sure, I don’t think anyone has said he wasn’t. I think he was trying to do too much with this performance and it was a bit messy. I like Adam, I watch him because I think he is a very good performer. I gotta wonder why some peope on this blog watch him though.

Preview of FYE MV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4M7g2fxdBE

waiiit..there’s a song? AND an album? why didn’t you tell me?

geesh…he’s such a whiny baby. His performance was weak and it seemed to me like he was the new kid trying way too hard to fit in….almost like begging for attention. The idea behind the performance was tired and overdone….I don’t understand all the attention, it’s a slow news week?? All of his comments since then have been self centered and just ignorant. If the stuff on his CD is better than that crap song then I hope it all works out for him based on his music…not on his antics. Bad first step into his career IMO. Coming off AI carries enough of a stigma in the real music world, no reason for him to add to it by making himself a joke. Most of my NON AI obsessed friends and family found the performance more idiotic than offensive….I think that’s how it came across to most people.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

Amen sista!

I would like to see one quote, an actual quote, or clip, where Adam is “whinging”(sic) about discrimination.

I’m kind of sorry to see so many of Adam’s fans blindly sticking up for him when he messes up. Kind of reminds me of him. Is it so tough to admit it didn’t work, it was a mess, and nobody’s perfect? Okay, yes, it is tough. But he, at least, should do that. jmho.

Pretty much this. The amount of delusion over this is killing me…if he got up there and crapped on the stage (physically, not vocally as he did at the AMAs) and attributed it to artistic expression would that be cool too?

I’m also tired of hearing that he doesn’t want to be a gay poster boy, it’s all about the music…EXCEPT when he catches flack for his performance. Then it’s a full blown attack on censorship brought on by his complete stereotype of a performance.

“do the people watching the AMA’s who were offended or didn’t like Adam’s performace not have ‘off’  buttons on their remote controls?”

Sure do. And I also am allowed to sit there watching with my mouth open the same as you can sit there and watch and enjoy. I couldn’t very well complain about something I didn’t watch now could I? Difference is, I am an adult. Nothing Adam did offended me personally in any way. But ABC is not the place for it. Period. He needs to grow up and realize being true to yourself doesn’t mean you have to go ba**s out 100% of the time. Time and Place Adam.

Why do I feel like I’ve stepped inside another political election…I thought only politicians were able to stir up the masses like this.

Oh, Adam, Adam where are you. It’s time to run for office….you are OTT controversial.

Keep spinning, Adam. If you tell a lie often enough, people will start to believe you.

Yeah isn’t that true.

“”Give me one example of another artist who flipped the audience the bird that night that ABC didn’t edit. There is”"

Eminem and grabbed his crotch many times and said a biz zillion filthy words. Madonna played with her own crotch and rubbed her coned boobs and fondled her dancers, I could go on …….

Natasha posted this on the other thred.seemed Better here.

Oh by the way, Adam is the Artist of the Month on AOL Kids ‘“ I kid you not.

o_0

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Kirsten, could not agree with you more. You nailed it, no pun intended.

I’m tired of this. Bored with it. Done. I’ve given Adam credit in the past when I thought he deserved it (as in his response to OUT magazine and in recognizing his very real talent) and I’ve criticized him when I thought he was out of line. But I’m tired of reading posts spinning everything in his favor no matter what he says or does. And done with all this crap and that is all it is. I’m going to focus on the idols who are launching their careers through talent and hard work rather than stunts and hypocritical whining.

This whole argument that Adam is ‘pushing the envelope’  so he should be admired is ridiculous. Pushing the envelope just to be an ass and annoy and shock people isn’t meaningful to anyone. Elvis was just dancing. He was sexy. Adam was not sexy the other night. Let someone push the envelope in ways that mean something, not just see who can be the most shocking. Anyone can give a blow job. It doesn’t take skill or artistry. Anyone can shock people. But to move people, that’s another story.

I totally agree with this.

I’m very far to be prude and the visual of his performance would be ok with me on his tour or television that is NOT national television (and i would then know what to expect from him)

MarleeMatlin:

To all you fans of Adam Lambert. I’m with you. Love or hate him, I an artist who believes in freedom of expression freedom of CHOICE.

If supporting Adam Lamberts right to express and your right to JUDGE if he’s for you or not, then I’m happy to be a GLAMBERT. Freedom rocks

sorry, poor judgment here. The freedom of choice should take into account RESPECT of others where it applies. And it applies here, it’s not suitable for everyone in the audience of a national televised show. A lot of people consider sexual graphics demonstrations to happen in private or at the time and place they choose to see them. And people has the right to be respected — I put that above the so-called freedom of choice

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Also, it was visually agressive when he shoved the guy’s face into his crotch. You know what, it just made me remember the time when a guy did the same to me and tried to rape me. Thank you Adam for the ‘sweet’ memories..

Adam was looking to get censored. He did it to cover up for his crapastic performance.

i agree with you Kirsten, to a point.

I think Adam was covering for his less than great performance. He knew things were going awry and he had to do something to be worthy of all the hype. That is why I think he was so angry at the end. But I also think that had he provided his usual stellar performance we wouldn’t be talking about anything else that happened. Well not most of us.

The fact that he didn’t blow everyone away with his voice is what concerns me the most. I think that is what will ultimately determine whether people purchase his CD.

Lyndsay’s take

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/295740/adam-lamberts-amagma-controversy-proof-that-any-publicity-is-good-publicity/

Good job, Lyndsay.

It is a good piece but I think she misses an important point – when was the last time ANYONE in the media paid any attention to an album not matter how great it is. Sure they might report on it once that it is out. But these days (and it is a sad indictment on both the media and we audiences) if you want any kind of coverage a little controversy goes a long way. Gaga isn’t in the news on a regular basis because she makes great edgy music (which she does) it is because SHE is a walking talking performance 24/7 who is pushing performance boundaries.

And hopefully those that come to check it out because of the controversy stay because of the music. Because of course at the end of the day it is about the music, but it sure helps if people know your name.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.

Why!!! it is discrimination. Say what you want but this is being made and issue because he is Gay. Unless you are you don’t understand. I might not like some of the thing he did but he has the same right to do it just like every women on that stage. Janet grabbing a man’s genitals. Madonna in the past putting a guy under her dress to simulate oral sex on her. That is where the double standard is. If you have a problem with him you should have had a problem with most of the acts that night. Where is the outrage for Eminem, Rhianna, Shakira, Janet on this show alone not to mention so many other performance in the past that make this seem Disney like.

DON’T lecture posters

Can’t wait to see the whole FYE MV, it looks like a GAAASSSS!!!

My only problem with his performance was his vocals. The performance itself was fine (except for the stumble) and nothing that “shocking”. I’ve seen a lot more than that. He admitted it was pitchy. In my book, that’s the end of it.

“Adam was looking to get censored. He did it to cover up for his crapastic performance.

He claims to have gotten lost in the moment, but part of the reason it was such a terrible performance was because he wasn’t. He was nervous and counting steps. There was no chemistry. It was all calculation.

And, if sexy songs cause him to get lost in the moment, why wasn’t Tim getting frenched every other night on the tour during WLL?

I so don’t buy that excuse. Like he would admit that he did it to take attention away from his flop performance.

His whinging about discrimination has really pissed me off. There are real people facing real discrimination and he wants nothing to do with them last week. But, as soon as he screws up a performance, he suddenly becomes a crusader for the right to get a BJ on broadcast television? Gah! What a shallow self-centered twerp.”

LMAO!! Kristen, How do you know he did these things to cover up his performance? I highly doubt you have spoken to Adam about his performance so you couldn’t possibly know? What is the definition of “whinging” please elaborate. Thanks I enjoyed your false sense of outrage!

dhunken I agree with you 100%

I’m kind of sorry to see so many of Adam’s fans blindly sticking up for him when he messes up. Kind of reminds me of him. Is it so tough to admit it didn’t work, it was a mess, and nobody’s perfect? Okay, yes, it is tough. But he, at least, should do that. jmho.

I am a big Adam fan. No, i didn’t particularly like the performance. His voice bothered me the most b/c I know how great he sounds. But, I am a FAN so one performance is not going to make me turn against him. One of my co-workers reminded me of the time she went through some rough times with Britney Spears but she still luvs her and saw her twice this summer.

sorry, poor judgment here. The freedom of choice should take into account RESPECT of others where it applies. And it applies here, it’s not suitable for everyone in the audience of a national televised show.

I don’t think she’s arguing that it’s appropriate for everyone. She’s saying everyone should have the right to decide for themselves if it’s appropriate. We don’t have to have someone deciding this is bad for us. We can make the decision to not watch.

This is funny and in some ways sooo wrong:

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/24/adam-lambert-ama-controversy/

and to think,I am bringing my 7 year old to the Macy’s parade!

‘m going to focus on the idols who are launching their careers through talent and hard work rather than stunts and hypocritical whining.

good.I’m sure they’ll be happy to hve you.no sarcasm.jmo.

laurelg scanning right now;) j/k.not genius,though just an opinion as “valid” as the “haters”

ummm I can only speak for myself but I want spinnning it in adam’s favor.I mean of course I do that because I worship the ground he walks on but what I posted here is what I Actually think.

yep,the behind te scenes is AWESOME.

btw,does anyone know lyrics 2 “down the rabbit hole”? I have all the others..

Well I thought most of the interview was fine, though I think he continues not to get at all about the kids thing. And to a degree I think he’s right, I think putting a kid in front of a TV these days and then being shocked at what they’re seeing? Where are the effin’ parents? Why they hell is your kid watching the AMAs at 11:30 pm and did you not see the other stuff before?

Oh and there are sex acts all the time that are alluded to and simulated on TV, daytime TV alone. I know, I used to watch soaps. Hey! I don’t anymore, don’t judge.

On the other hand, I think he totally whiffs when he doesn’t get it. He should do a modified thing like from OUT magazine about ‘not wanting to screw up kids or be responsible for that,’ and then add ‘totally not what I was trying to do and I’m SORRY if it did so. But I’m not their babysitter or parent.’

And he should say he’s SORRY when he screws up, like his vocals on Sunday and with no cavaets about sound systems.

Oh and stop being so effin’ defensive. It’s stupid.

And, i have to say, I still think that being the first gay, mainstream, straight-from-AI, out-from-the-beginning, former gay-cabaret-performer-but-now-functioning-as-a-hetero-sex-symbol thing probably is pretty difficult to handle for somebody who was nobody a eight months ago and is now presented with these huge opportunities. A lot for him to think and work through.

LUCY-ITA- I am thinking this must be a lot for him to process. He will work it out, especially with the support of his parents, who seem to be great people.

Is there a vid of Adam and Ryan this morning? or an audio? If so can someone please post it? thanks.

To all you fans of Adam Lambert. I’m with you. Love or hate him, I an artist who believes in freedom of expression freedom of CHOICE.

I don’t think anyone’s stopping Adam from expressing himself. He can sell tickets to his tour and do whatever he likes.

You just don’t get to do whatever you want on a TV show owned by someone on a network owned by someone on the public airwaves owned by the public which are governed by rules and standards that the network agrees to abide by. See? Everyone has responsibilities to somebody.

Why!!! it is discrimination. Say what you want but this is being made and issue because he is Gay. Unless you are you don’t understand. I might not like some of the thing he did but he has the same right to do it just like every women on that stage. Janet grabbing a man’s genitals. Madonna in the past putting a guy under her dress to simulate oral sex on her. That is where the double standard is. If you have a problem with him you should have had a problem with most of the acts that night. Where is the outrage for Eminem, Rhianna, Shakira, Janet on this show alone not to mention so many other performance in the pas that make this seem Disney like.

Well, I kind of agree with Kirsten here because I was so annoyed at Adam last week for pooh-poohing RCA’s apparent request to Out that he not be made ‘gay gay” in the magazine!! …

Honestly, I think he’s been applying a double standard (although I’m sure he hasn’t thought it through enough … and I guess I can hardly blame him for that with all the stuff that’s being going on in his life) ….

But what the last two weeks look like to me are this: When it suits the purposes of his career, then concerns about potential censorship of a gay performer and gay media is misplaced — he basically said that to Out about what I thought then and think now is an *outrageous* discriminatory request on the part of Adam’s management. … But then, this week, when the censorship issue is directed at his performance then he’s calling it out all over the place

I think he needs to get some priorities straight. Not just this week is about discrimination, Adam, last week was, too, and then you weren’t willing to admit it because you saw the discrimination in that instance as a good thing for you! Tsk tsk. Need some clearer thinking about things, boy.

Adam has a chance to show another side of himself on CBS. I hope he chooses not to comment on ABC and just sings brilliantly as we all know he can do. Focus on the album. I would also thank my AI fans (whether you need them or not) for good PR–maybe even bring mom and dad along. He needs to do some damage control as it appears he has lost more fans and faith than he may have anticipated.

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It’s just that people say, ‘OK. Male dancers fondling and humping female dancers? Cool.’  ‘Rhianna wear S&M/bondage gear? Cool.’  ‘Eminem singing about rape? Awesome.’  But, we draw the line at this and this. Why? Why say simulated intercourse from behind is okay, but a simulated blow job is not?

For one thing, two wrongs don’t make a right. That’s an old but true saying. Second, many of us don’t think those things are cool or awesome. I don’t think Eminem’s lyrics belong on network tv either.

It’s also not just that it was a blow job, it was also the way Adam grabbed the guy and pushed his face into his crotch and held him there, with a mean look on his face. It was aggressive and didn’t even look consensual. It was also more than suggestive. It crossed the line for many people, including me.

Sometimes people want the boundaries to keep being pushed back, but is that always a good thing? Are there any limits anywhere? Shock for shock’s sake, is that all we care about?

So Eminem and others are creepy and offensive, does that mean we also want Adam to be? Maybe it’s hard to say why one is accepted and one is not, but clearly Adam’s show broke new ground. It was one sex act after another, it was grim and not playful or sensual. It seemed like he had a point to make, and in that way seemed designed to be political, not sexual. The look on his face at the end said it all, it was not a pleasant face. These things are hard to explain, they affect people in different ways, but the fact is, Adam’s show affected a lot of people in a negative way. Not just a few people. Why is that? For quite a few reasons, thus the discussions.

Listening to his songs. I really love it. WYWW wow! Great CD!

Kirsten, thank you again for putting so eloquently.

I just want to highlight this…

Strawmen arguments are his stock and trade.

So unbelievably true.

dab1234
11/24/2009 at 4:18 pm
Is there a vid of Adam and Ryan this morning? or an audio? If so can someone please post it? thanks.”

Good interview with Ryan:)

http://www.kiisfm.com/cc-common/podcast.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4M7g2fxdBE

Preview of Adam’s FYE video.

2 more adds for WWFM, one being Ryan’s station

Why!!! it is discrimination. Say what you want but this is being made and issue because he is Gay. Unless you are you don’t understand. I might not like some of the thing he did but he has the same right to do it just like every women on that stage. Janet grabbing a man’s genitals. Madonna in the past putting a guy under her dress to simulate oral sex on her. That is where the double standard is. If you have a problem with him you should have had a problem with most of the acts that night. Where is the outrage for Eminem, Rhianna, Shakira, Janet on this show alone not to mention so many other performance in the pas that make this seem Disney like.

Bravo! We have seen it all. Everything Adam did has been done. Minus the whole male homo-eroticism. THAT we are not used to. I think that Adam’s explanation (not apology) is very simple…he got a little carried away, but so has everyone. And after seeing the performances up until Adam…what parent in their right mind (and even those in the left) would let their kid endure all that PLUS stay up that late? Not me! My dad didn’t even let me watch MTV until I was a senior in high school. Music is like painting and dancing and other forms of art…it can be very erotic. People play music when they want to get in the mood, when they’re angry, when they’re sad…it moves people. It has always been this way! Look at Prince! My lord…remember when he sang “Cream”?
Too much is being made out of this. I agree with dhunken and Adam Lambert. There is a major issue of double standards and if you don’t believe me try sifting through past performances. It won’t take long to find the female equivalent to every move he made.

Kirsten I actually agree with not of your post.except for the last part.

good point sassycatz..

I don’t get why he should own up to it.should he say “I sucked.I’m a horrible singer,stupid,ugly,fat,have bad skin,clueless,ETC.”
that wouldn’t help his career much either.

well I g2g.c ya guys later hopefully for the cantiello interview…

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40,916 comments aboutthe GMA cancellation on the ABC website. Far more of the comments are in support of Adam.

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Why!!! it is discrimination. Say what you want but this is being made and issue because he is Gay. Unless you are you don’t understand.

Sorry, but I’m a student in the social sciences, and this argument should never hold any water. It privileges experience to the expense of all other things, and is completely irrelevant to an actual argument of social cause and effect.

I might not like some of the thing he did but he has the same right to do it just like every women on that stage. Janet grabbing a man’s genitals. Madonna in the past putting a guy under her dress to simulate oral sex on her. That is where the double standard is. If you have a problem with him you should have had a problem with most of the acts that night. Where is the outrage for Eminem, Rhianna, Shakira, Janet on this show alone not to mention so many other performance in the past that make this seem Disney like.

This obscures two things. First is the argument that female artist do this without repercussion; that’s not true. It’s not like Madonna or Janet have been doing this without controversy; that’s what makes them who they are, and they’ve had repercussions just like this before. Secondly, it obscures the fact that the visuals are what matters. I don’t think if Adam had just sung the song (in all of its alleged inappropriate lyrics), it would have mattered. And had he and his dancers just shown a lot of suggestive skin, it still wouldn’t have mattered. The fight is over the visual simulated acts on stage, really, and none of the performers you listed did that on a major network primetime in that fashion without repercussions. (Not to mention, one of said performances was totally censored beyond belief. So there’s that)

Kristen you are so much smarter then this and you know that he in no way promoting the right to BJ on national television. (Especially since is was a simulation and not the real thing Jeez) He is requesting the same right to express his sexuality just like the women in Pop are aloud too.

She meant he is promoting the right for someone to simulate a BJ on national TV during a primetime show (don’t read it quite so obviously at face value). And, yeah, he’s doing that.

I don’t think she’s arguing that it’s appropriate for everyone. She’s saying everyone should have the right to decide for themselves if it’s appropriate. We don’t have to have someone deciding this is bad for us. We can make the decision to not watch.

mgk, people who were watching didn’t know that they shouldn’t have watch. For me it was not appropriate on a national tv show, period. And I would say the same of any other artist who would do this whether gay or hetero

sorry 4 my post at 4:16.ridiculous amount of typos.stupid itouch kyboard.I meant “wansnt” not want..

Adam will be everywhere:

Tomorrow on BLI In The Morning: Adam Lambert calls! He’ll answer questions about his new CD the American Music… http://bit.ly/7irtJY

more info:

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I’m trying to remember the last time I hung out and repeatedly commented on a forum that was all about something that bored me!

If you wanted to, it would be your right to do so without anyone complaining about it. Besides, I don’t think boredom is the predominant emotion that people are feeling.

A lot of people liked Adam somewhat on the show. They (we) were open to liking him more or less over time, depending on him and how he handled his new role. With every thing he does, he drives people away or draws them to him. It’s his choice. So far I think he’s driving a lot of people away. It’s wrong to say they all hated him anyway. Not true for most people. A lot of people were lukewarm about him, or liked him but weren’t uber-fans. Contrary to the myth, everyone doesn’t “love or hate” him.

Studio57
11/24/2009 at 4:18 pm
The level of desperation in the people who cannot stand to see Adam’s star rising is palpable. I am almost giddy with excitement for him- GO ADAM! LMAO!

His tweeter followers since the AMAs 11/22 are through the roof…up almost 9000 people in 2 days, and growing by the minute.

http://twittercounter.com/adamlambert?manual_update=1

two words:

UNFORCED ERROR

If you swim with the sharks, occasionally you get the teeth. Adam has been dancing on the razor’s edge lately trying to get away from the squeaky clean AI albatross and he just took it too far.

I think the GREATEST CRIME of Adam’s performance was that he chose one of the worst songs on the album to be his first single and the one he sung at the AMA’s. WWFM or IIHY would have both been MUCH better.

Another lesson – never get so caught up in the theatrics that the singing suffers. In a way, Adam’s performance at the AMA’s was a lot like the movie 2012 – so much emphasis on the special effects that the script suffers.

What I find amusing is the same parents who allow their children to watch “The Terminator” where hundreds are blown to bits, complain about Adam kissing another guy.

Why they hell is your kid watching the AMAs at 11:30 pm

Let’s not exaggerate, it was 10:55 pm. In central time it was 9:55 pm. At least base your argument on the facts.

The level of desperation in the people who cannot stand to see Adam’s star rising is palpable.

You seriously think people are jealous? Hmm I don’t see that. Myself I don’t care if he succeeds or not. It just doesn’t matter. You see desperation? How so? Finally, I haven’t seen his star rising yet. It’s a bit too soon to project that.

Adam i #4 on Amazon but Lady Gaga is hot on his heels. He also moved up to #5 overall on the itunes feed for the deluxe, the regular is at #10.

You know when people talk about Adam being like Madonna, Elvis, The Beatles, Prince, Bowie…They are not talking about The people or artist they are NOW. But the artist they where when they first started out. Adam is carving a place for himself. Agree or disagree with it I respect him for taking the chance. I am old enough go remember that all the above Artist mentioned where just were Adam is now. They were all controversial and people swore they would all fail. Today they are all revered and worshiped. How quickly people forget. Madonna Had so much banning I can’t even count how many times. You say the difference is she is a true artist and professional. Well that was not the sentiment at the time. None of the above artist where welcomed with open arms by Middle America and mainstream USA. So when one is comparing Adam to these Artist it is to the rebelliousness and artistic interpretations that was not appreciated by the masses at the time. Just like them Adam is doing what is right for him his expression, and yes he fully understands that also lends him to fail too but I think that was not a fear of the above artist either. Rock is about taking risks and chances whether it succeeds or not.

I don’t get why he should own up to it.should he say ‘I sucked.I’m a horrible singer,stupid,ugly,fat,have bad skin,clueless,ETC.’ 
that wouldn’t help his career much either.

if he sucked and had a bad night of course he should own up to it instead of making excuses…

luvadamlambert
11/24/2009 at 4:28 pm

sorry 4 my post at 4:16.ridiculous amount of typos.stupid itouch kyboard.I meant ‘wansnt’  not want..

This post 4 the mf-ing ironic win.

@BradBesseyET: My spies at The Early Show tell me Adam will do 2 songs & take questions from the audience. Love it! @etnow @adamlambert

I agree with you , JJ123. Adam was trying too hard to top everyone. He paid too much attention on the “theatrical” part but neglect the vocal part. Also, I think he might had tried to prove that he’s not “not gay enough”.

Thank you dhunken.

Rob Cavallo on Adam.

“He’s going to have successes. He might have people against him. Which is exactly what happened to Elvis, the Beatles, to Prince. . . . There will be controversy, and there will be opinions. If he stays true to himself he will be one of those great artists to watch over the years.’ 

If you combined Adam’s deluxe and regular, would he not be #1 on iTunes?

Hard to make #1 on iTunes when you are splitting sales between two versions of the same album and Amazon is selling it for $4.

@BradBesseyET: My spies at The Early Show tell me Adam will do 2 songs & take questions from the audience. Love it! @etnow @adamlambert

But which songs? Very important to know…

The level of desperation in the people who cannot stand to see Adam’s star rising is palpable. I am almost giddy with excitement for him- GO ADAM! LMAO!

His tweeter followers since the AMAs 11/22 are through the roof’ ¦up almost 9000 people, and growing by the minute.

For his sake, let’s hope it translates to sales.

From Lyndsey Parker:

But there’s the minus side: This has nothing to do with music, either. Yesterday Adam Lambert released an amazing album, arguably one of the best albums in American Idol history (well, I argue that, anyway), and obviously all of his TV appearances this week were set up to promote For Your Entertainment. But his release week has been sadly overshadowed by all this controversial stuff. Hardly anyone is concentrating on how head-explodingly awesome “Music Again” and “Pick U Up” are, how goosebump-raising ballads like “Whataya Want From Me” or “Sleepwalker” are, or how stupendous his voice sounds throughout.

I was pleased when the last few weeks of Lambert media-blitzing were focused on the much-anticipated release of For Your Entertainment–the A-list collaborators, the leaked song snippets, the lyrics that diehard fans were transcribing and putting up on the Web. But now, during Adam’s all-important release week, the music itself is no longer the focus, and that is why I do wonder if any publicity really is good publicity. And this is the one reason why I doubt if all this controversy-courting is such a great idea. It may boost Adam’s profile in the short run, but I still think it should be all about music at the end of the day–and I imagine Adam does as well. He and his collaborators worked too hard on his dream debut to have it be ignored because the public is too concerned with all this tabloid stuff. Hopefully Adam will just knock out some fantastic performances on Letterman and The Early Show this week, and then this mess will blow over like every other “scandal” he has been through practically since he auditioned for Idol.

My thoughts exactly.

This has nothing to do with discrimination, blow jobs, etc. It has everything to do with Adam doing whatever he can to promote himself. I remember “the kiss” between Adam and Drew in the front seat of a car and the cries of “poor Adam has no privacy” and “There would not be such a fuss about this if Adam were not gay.” Does anyone think for a minute he didn’t notice the paparazzi all around him when he did that? And Adam knew exactly what he was doing on the AMA show and it backfired in his face. Now he is doing damage control. He is a fame whore when he has the true talent to be something really special. So sad.

luvadamlambert

ummmm to summarize This thread’ ¦Adam didn’t do anything bad..yes he did..no he disnt’ ¦yes he did..stupid parents’ ¦your a bad parent..no you are ‘ ¦Adam will be iconic’ ¦no he won’t..yes he will..no he won’t..haha this thread is hilarious’ ¦..also to people that never liked Adam in the first place (no offense intended,I know you’re allowed to be here ) why are you here if he’s so boring?

not trying to prove a point, just curious..

mybe it was a bit too much’ ¦just one peeformanve’ ¦I can’t believe ppl that say I hate him after one friifin performance..okay then ..youknow if you had missed that 5 minutes you would be a fan for life’ ¦

Beautifully put, luvadamlambert! This is exactly what I’ve been thinking. All this upset over one performance. Yeah, it wasn’t very good, the singing was off, but balanced against all of the other good performances that Adam has done (AI, tour, GMA in August), I’m thinking that the reaction is a bit much.

And even the Parent’s Television Council weighed in, saying that ABC’s cancellation of Adam’s GMA performance was an overreaction:

“However, the Parents Television Council (PTC) does not think ‘GMA’  should have canceled Adam’s performance. Dan Isett, Director of Public Policy for the PTC tells Access, ‘I do think it’s a little bit unfortunate. This is not a personal crusade against Adam Lambert. The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,’  Isett continued. ‘It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.’ 

I do understand that the AMA performance was OTT for some people, but I don’t think this performance is representative of everything he is going to do. And judging by the Letterman performance (a friend of mine was at the taping), Adam does know how to pull back and just sing well. I believe that he tries to fit the performance to the song, and things went awry on the AMAs. Doesn’t mean he’s lost his ability to give a good performance.

Euw. This is getting boring already.

li

feisgood
11/24/2009 at 4:22 pm

Good interview with Ryan:)

http://www.kiisfm.com/cc-common/podcast.html

Thank you. I thought this interview was good. Honest answers to the questions. He is who he is, no surprise there. I had absolutely no problem with the AMA presentation. First I smiled, then I laughed. I was truly amazed that he recovered from his fall so well, that is all that stood out for me. He just picked himself up and went on, never missed a beat. He is responding to the issue, not hiding or offering “no comment” so I respect that. He knows his audience and he plays to them. He has shown that over and over again. ABC did over react to the matter, and they will lose in ratings. Oh well. Carry on Adam, I still respect you as an entertainer and love the music. Keep it coming!!!!!

Tomorrow is Another Day. Adam all the way.

I would like to see one quote, an actual quote, or clip, where Adam is ‘whinging’ (sic) about discrimination.

Excuse me, but “whinging” doesn’t get [sic]‘ed . It’s not a typo. It’s quite common where I come from and it’s in Merriam-Webster.

He was whinging in the Rolling Stone article (and many from Sunday night) when he complained about being censored before it even happened. That’s like epic whinging. Whinging in advance. Wait until something happens to you before you start shouting discrimination.

He has not been discriminated against, so he needs to stop pretending he is the re-incarnation of Ghandi and MLK Jr. Especially, when he was defending his right to censor last week.

But which songs? Very important to know’ ¦

WWFM and I would love for him to sing Loaded Smile, but it probably will be FYE.

And judging by the Letterman performance (a friend of mine was at the taping), Adam does know how to pull back and just sing well.

Linda, spill more about Letterman!

@ADAMLAMBERT’s New music video for FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT just arrived to our NY ET office. We’ll play some tonight on ET. about 2 hours ago from web

Wowwwwwwwww!!!!! What happened?

This thread is too much for me to handle.

AMA is not the end of the world for Adam. He will have other chances and hopefully he will give more emphasis next time on his music rather than his performance. If his music sells well and continue to do so then all discussions on this blog and others would meaningless.

In the meantime, I am listening to the cds of Adam Lambert and Susan Boyle.

Initial impression- Susan Boyle’s album higlights her beautiful voice even with complex orchestration. The delivery is so clear and amazing that one could have goose bumps and moved to the point of having tears.

I don’t know and I simply don’t want to know her story, I just want good music. Now I know why her album is outselling a lot of established artist in US and in other countries.

I need to listen again and again to Adam’s album. My initial reaction is highly mixed. Too early to give impression.

Adam on Alexa Chung:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLEyXPeZLsE

Listen to the teen girls scream! They Love the guy kiss!lol

Talk about a mountain being made out of a molehill! And here I am contributing. I wouldn’t think of letting my kids watch the AMAs (oldest is 10yr.), they are in bed by 8:30 on school days anyway. Very few of the acts were kid friendly—I took peeks on and off. If a parent couldn’t figure out what kind of program this was going to be after the first 45 min., then, I don’t know. The Grammies are “safe,” anything goes on the AMAs and VMAs; which is why I haven’t watched either in years.

I think Adam handled things fine in these interviews. Love the way he comes across when interviewed.

The hate is a scary thing (and I am not really talking about here). I couldn’t imagine being in his position.

mgk, people who were watching didn’t know that they shouldn’t have watch. For me it was not appropriate on a national tv show, period. And I would say the same of any other artist who would do this whether gay or hetero

They could get a clue after seeing the way his dancers were dressed. If not, they could get a clue after dance moves started, the clue was there at the simulated BJ. But my guess is the people who are complaining the loudest stuck around to also see the kiss:)

if he sucked and had a bad night of course he should own up to it instead of making excuses’ ¦

Please give me a list of other artist who have done this! ….Oh and I mean who did it without being forced!!!!!

He has not been discriminated against,

He is being told he can’t perform on ABC because they’re worried about certain things like his impromptu kiss of his bass player. They are discriminating. They have allowed racy, sexually charged acts on the show in the past – including a recent performance from 50 Cent.

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I kind of wish the choreo in Adam’s FYE preview video was on AMAs. It’s freakin hott and he still would have stolen the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4M7g2fxdBE

Preview of Adam’s FYE video.

What show was he appearing on, does anyone know?

My last comment (hopefully) on this. I got Adam felt if the kiss was deleted from the west coast feed then he felt it was discriminated against because it was two men kissing.

I’m done now and can’t wait for tomorrow. Funny how I was nervous about the AMAs but not about Letterman and the Early Show. My gut new he was trying for to much with what he planned for the AMAs.

Been sick and I have not eaten in two days I need food now.

‘However, the Parents Television Council (PTC) does not think ‘GMA’  should have canceled Adam’s performance. Dan Isett, Director of Public Policy for the PTC tells Access, ‘I do think it’s a little bit unfortunate. This is not a personal crusade against Adam Lambert. The idea that he should be scrubbed from TV completely is not where we’re going,’  Isett continued. ‘It may be a bit of an overreaction on ABC’s part. The important thing is that networks have the easy ability to air on a delay to prevent this sort of thing.’ 

Really, networks can air on a delay? Who knew? Maybe someone should send the folks at ABC to Broadcasting 101 so they can learn these things.

And poor PTC, so afraid to be politically incorrect because heaven forbid we conclude that their objection to Adam might be because it was gay kiss. So, nothing personal there. Got to love how they left ABC flapping in the wind. Maybe ABC can call up Miley and beg her to stop dancing in her underwear while her friends video so she can replace Adam on Wednesday morning. Got to love that good wholesome entertainment.

No wonder Adam is trending #1 hot topics at CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/) he is all over Headline News (HLN) CNNs sister channel today.

I keep the TV on when I’m home and get doing other things and on and off ALL DAY each 1/2 hour Adam is all over HLN.
They are showing clips of the AMAs and mention the GMA cancel/CBS Early Show pick up for Wednesday AM.

Even on Showbiz Tonight (HLN 11/23 11PM air date) rebroadcast at 8AM on this morning (11/24) they had a chat session on Adam’s AMA performance and it was positive and supportive.

will,

it was on Alexa Chung on MTV

ET is playing some tonite as well

“LOL ‘“ people saying they are done with him or bored with him were never for him in the first place, so it doesnt really matter ‘“ hilarious”

If I felt that way, I wouldn’t waste my time reading everything about him on this post and commenting on it…

He was whinging in the Rolling Stone article (and many from Sunday night) when he complained about being censored before it even happened. That’s like epic whinging. Whinging in advance. Wait until something happens to you before you start shouting discrimination.

He has not been discriminated against, so he needs to stop pretending he is the re-incarnation of Ghandi and MLK Jr. Especially, when he was defending his right to censor last week.

I took it as explaining what he thought of what was being done not whining. Remember he was asked the question. He did not arbitrarily bring it up and complain to everyone who would listen. but you are entitled to view it you way and me mine. Your is not FACT and neither is mine just are opinions on how we viewed it.

dhunken
11/24/2009 at 4:32 pm

You know when people talk about Adam being like Madonna, Elvis, The Beatles, Prince, Bowie’ ¦They are not talking about The people or artist they are NOW. But the artist they where when they first started out. Adam is carving a place for himself. Agree or disagree with it I respect him for taking the chance. I am old enough go remember that all the above Artist mentioned where just were Adam is now. They were all controversial and people swore they would all fail. Today they are all revered and worshiped. How quickly people forget. Madonna Had so much banning I can’t even count how many times. You say the difference is she is a true artist and professional. Well that was not the sentiment at the time. None of the above artist where welcomed with open arms by Middle America and mainstream USA. So when one is comparing Adam to these Artist it is to the rebelliousness and artistic interpretations that was not appreciated by the masses at the time. Just like them Adam is doing what is right for him his expression, and yes he fully understands that also lends him to fail too but I think that was not a fear of the above artist either. Rock is about taking risks and chances whether it succeeds or not.

THIS is exactly true and what people seem to miss. Adam is at the beginning of his career, and like others before him, is making waves. Thank you for wording it so well. I remember all this and all the uproar, like reliving it again. Still enjoying the ride and the music. Just watching history repeat itself at the same time.

Please give me a list of other artist who have done this! ‘ ¦.Oh and I mean who did it without being forced!!!!!

Probably a lot of artists do, but for starters, David Cook did. He posted something in anger on myspace, and the next day basically said it was a mistake and he shouldn’t have. Other times he has apologized for things too. Others do this but DC just came to mind since I have been following him lately.

To me, it shows humility when celebrities admit to mistakes and don’t act like they are always right. To me, Adam’s defensiveness comes across in an unpleasant way.

Jason Castro has released his tour schedule, Allison has released a video, and the winner of idol, Kris Allen, did a song and an interview on Ellen. And the AI fandom is concentrating on someone’s head being pulled into someone’s crotch and a boy on boy kiss. Guess I need to tell these other Idols to sex it up big time if they want any kind of attention. Who was it that said Sex sales?

But the difference is, I will guy Jason’s, Allison’s and possibly Kris Allen’s cds. I will pay money to see their concerts. So while sex gets the attention, it doesn’t necessarily build a career. Not necessarily.

He is being told he can’t perform on ABC because they’re worried about certain things like his impromptu kiss of his bass player.

He claims that he gets so into the music, he doesn’t know what he’s doing. What if he starts flipping the audience the bird and grabs another one of his employees and shoves them into his crotch? That might fly at 9:55 at night, but it will be a tougher sell at 8 am.

If he is telling the truth about the AMAs, he cannot be trusted on live TV anymore. Why shouldn’t ABC believe him? Honestly, for those who think he’s telling the truth, why would you think that risk should be taken at 8 am in the morning? If you think like me, that he’s lying through his teeth and he did it all to create a controversy, then you might think he could be trusted to remain sentient during the morning hour and know how to avoid an FCC violation.

And why should ABC give him any more promo? They gave him lots of promo and he thanks them by telling the world they discriminated against him when they did not. He started complaining about discrimination before they even did anything. Ingrate.

I thought Adam was quite gracious of ABC abd GMA in his Seacrest interview. He did not pull the “gay discimination” card at all.

Really “Much Ado About Nothing” or to use Adam’s words “Mountain out of a mole hill” The boy sure knows how to keep the pot boiling though.

The clip of the video looks very cool! Loved his boots on the Alexa Chung clip.

Please give me a list of other artist who have done this! ‘ ¦.Oh and I mean who did it without being forced!!!!!

you want an example… first one i have on hand because im a fan. (otherwise i wouldnt bring it up)

Archie apologized on his twitter after his appearance on idol, he apologized and said he sucked and practically went emo over it lol. Saying he wasnt gonna let that happen again, etc. Even in a round table(via phone) interview with idols, he said he wasnt prepared for being in front of the judges seeing them again and that he sucked when he went on the show. no sound system blaming.

oh and i follow some people and a few of them have also apologized right away for bad shows etc etc

Adam on Alexa Chung:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLEyXPeZLsE

Listen to the teen girls scream! They Love the guy kiss!lol

Short but sweet.

wow, marlee matlin:

@marleematlin If supporting Adam Lamberts right to express and your right to JUDGE if he’s for you or not, then I’m happy to be a GLAMBERT. Freedom rocks. about 1 hour ago from web

Besides, I don’t think boredom is the predominant emotion that people are feeling.

Yes, we agree. That’s exactly what I said in the other half of my two-sentence post, right beside the sentence that you quoted! If you’d read my whole post, then surely you could have seen that I was saying that, no, it’s probably not boredom. It’s lots of other feelings — some of which I listed.

So we agree. This is not about boredom. It’s about frustration, annoyance, confusion, disgust. But not boredom….

Adam on Alexa Chung:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLEyXPeZLsE

Listen to the teen girls scream! They Love the guy kiss!lol

Adorable interview — thanks for posting.
By the way, his music video looks AWESOME!!

Could someone post the Alexa Chung clip please.

And now this from Jim Cantiello:

Here’s a novel idea! Adam Lambert could show up for a gig and sing the way he did on “Idol!” You know, in tune! And not out of breath! At this point, a solid vocal might be the biggest shock for America yet. I want my old Adam back! You can keep the kinky stage show, Mr. Lambert. Just remember to bring your vocal chops with you next time!

Good luck with that interview today Jim!

This GMA cancellation is ridiculous. Watching the AMA’s it was more than obvious well before Adam came on that it was not a show for young children. Has any American Idol ever been told they couldn’t do the GMA concert. Why didn’t GMA just have Adam sing one of his ballads. I don’t appreciate that they are treating him like an uncontrollable freak.

He has not been discriminated against, so he needs to stop pretending he is the re-incarnation of Ghandi and MLK Jr. Especially, when he was defending his right to censor last week.

He is being discriminated against if a girl can do the same with a girl or a girl can do the same with a guy and they are not censored. it’s pretty simple. and that is what he is saying . I don’t see any “whinging ” there.

Now we’re discovering other sides of Adam we didn’t necessarily see before.

Then I assume you never saw Crazy or the Zodiac performances. Nothing about Adam has changed. If we are going to talk about character, than it is also revealed in the interviews he’s given. He’s a nice guy. He has an obvious sexual energy which many woman responded to while he was on Idol and on the tour. He is aware of that sexual energy and he seeks to exploit it. Women were throwing underwear, sex toys, etc. at him while he was touring (despite the fact that there were children in the audience). Now suddenly, everyone is surprised because Adam has outed himself in such a sexualized manner. If you didn’t know what Adam was about, if you didn’t know how people were responding to him prior to the AMAs, then maybe this is a shock. But if you claim to know his character, then surely you must know that Adam’s performance at the AMAs was very much in character.

Reminder:

Deleting defensive posts. Also, putting those peeps in moderation. I’m sick of posters ignoring my guidelines.

His tweeter followers since the AMAs 11/22 are through the roof’ ¦up almost 9000 people, and growing by the minute.

For his sake, let’s hope it translates to sales.

So far as anyone knows, has Twitter ever done this? Seems to me we hvae pretty good evidence that people follow people on Twitter because they want to see what those people say on Twitter. Given the millions of followers some folks have, I don’t see it translating much into sales — though I suppose every piece of attention you get may translate into *some* sales … Will be interesting to see, here.

I myself wasn’t pleased with his talking discrimination about what was just a bad performance.

But I don’t think he’s evil or bad and despite my wanting to smack him sometimes, I’m still a fan of his music, which is what I care mostly about from him.

I do wish he would get his ish together, because I don’t think that is totally just a vapid jerk or whatever, I think he has a pattern of reacting badly to things and it gets him into trouble, and he gets into a really defensive posture as part of that. He needs to get secure and mature enough to admit when he screws up and why. I don’t know if he ever will, he might not, but I hope he does for his sake.

I just know that my brother, even at 27 still had some of the same behavioural patterns, and why some people thought he was an arrogant jerk growing up.

They gave him lots of promo and he thanks them by telling the world they discriminated against him when they did not.

Kirsten, he did NOT say ABC discriminated against him. Listen to his interviews. I am the one who said that. Adam was asked right after his performance if he thought it would be censored. He felt THAT would be discrimination as the female performers were allowed to do as they pleased. But, in both radio interviews today he says nothing about being discriminated against because he can’t perform.

It is me, some people here, as well as celebrities, bloggers, and journalists who are saying ABC is discriminating because hetero sex is fine and dandy as it brings in the viewers. But, gay sex is taboo. Some of us don’t like that attitude, and think it’s time for change. And if Adam is the rallying cry of this particular issue, so be it.

He is being discriminated against if a girl can do the same with a girl or a girl can do the same with a guy and they are not censored. it’s pretty simple. and that is what he is saying . I don’t see any ‘whinging ‘  there.

Nobody censored his kiss. They censored him flipping the audience the bird and getting the simulated BJ. There are no examples of anybody else who did those things that night.

If they censored his kiss, I would be agreeing with you that it is discrimination. But that didn’t happen no matter how many times it is implied that it did.

He has not been discriminated against, so he needs to stop pretending he is the re-incarnation of Ghandi and MLK Jr. Especially, when he was defending his right to censor last week.

Kirsten obviously something Adam did touched a nerve and I am so sorry for that, but I don’t think it’s fair to say he was not discriminated against. You are not him or know the extent of what he went through. Adam does not use this discrimination card often and he could. So I tend to go with him when he says this is how he feels. None of us are walking in his shoes and can make that call for him. Also please tell me where he in anyway said or acted like the re-incarnation of anyone.

But the difference is, I will guy Jason’s, Allison’s and possibly Kris Allen’s cds. I will pay money to see their concerts. So while sex gets the attention, it doesn’t necessarily build a career. Not necessarily.

I on the other hand, will pay to see acts that bring something I can’t have just by listening to their CD’s. Not sex necessarily, but a show, and act, something that will keep me involved for a couple of hours.

I love all this wailing and moaning and protesting about how Adam is being unfairly singled out. Wasn’t that was he was aiming for? To be singled out? To garner all the attention and focus? Didn’t he expect some outrage, isn’t that what you’re looking for when you seek to push the boundaries of people’s sensibilities. Wah, wah, wah, whine somewhere else, Adam.

On this thread, I haven’t read one person who had a problem with the boy on boy kiss. And people keep posting that portion of the ABC email mentioning the kiss, but conveniently leaving out the part of the email about the simulated oral sex.

I’m amazed that so many people seem to have a problem believing that some people might think a simulated blow job on network television steps over a line, no matter who does it. I live in one of the most liberal parts of the US and I think it crossed a line. I hate when everything is blamed on discrimination against gays (or any other minority group). THAT’S NOT IT, and it lessens the sensitivity to real discrimination if people are calling homophopia over something like this.

Haven’t read back or chimed in to all of this much but want to state my opinion. Very smart of Adam to question why people don’t people have more of an issue with Eminem’s boast of 41 rapes. Personally I’m fine with what I consider to be the artistic expressions of both performers, but if something should be complained about, well gosh.

Also I would like to add this was one performance with a song that lends itself to risque choreography. If anyone paid attention to Adam you would know that not every performance is going to be so sexually charged.

I wouldn’t think of letting my kids watch the AMAs

Actually neither would I, but I don’t think it’s right either to dismiss parent’s concerns as some have done. And what about teenagers? Parents might have thought the AMAs would be okay for them to watch, yet not expecting it be as bad as it was.

I see your point. I wouldn’t let my kids watch a lot of what’s on tv. But when they reach a certain age, it’s hard to stop them. It’s really hard to be a parent today, when boundaries keep being pushed farther. Parents of yesterday didn’t have to deal with as much as they do today. Everyone wants to blame the parents, and let the tv shows off the hook for the crap they put out there during prime time on network tv and push it on MTV, knowing how attracted teenagers are to anything that’s controversal. Parents try to be responsible but they fight an uphill battle.

Boo to GMA for cancelling the performance.

Just feeding the publicity fires and playing their part.

I actually agree with Lambert: he did nothing that hasn’t been done umpteen times before him by umpteen established acts.

Which makes it kind of predictable, when you think about it.

Kid’s Artist of the Month

http://kids.aol.com/KOL/2/Music/article/adam-lambert

I on the other hand, will pay to see acts that bring something I can’t have just by listening to their CD’s. Not sex necessarily, but a show, and act, something that will keep me involved for a couple of hours.

Different things keep people involved. A singer/songwriter with a guitar can keep me entertained for 2 hours by themselves if they write songs that speak to me. It’s about the music then, the words and the voice, and it’s not like listening to a cd, it’s live.

They censored him flipping the audience the bird

I totally missed this part of the performance, but have heard much talk about it since Sunday. Was this part of his “stage show” or was it specifically directed at someone in the audience? Thanks for any thoughts you may have.

I just love the Alexa Chung interview! That is my darling ADam! The same one I fell in love with on idol! Didn’t he look delicious??? And I know it made him feel good that the girls were squealing over him like that. Wasn’t he gorgeous??

So fans who liked the performance (even though the mix was atrocious and Adam’s 24k gold vocal was a bit tarnished) are just blinded by fandom and anyone who didn’t like it are closed minded biggots who were never really fans in the first place? Just checking.

I think the truth for most people lies somewhere in the middle.

My favorite part of the Elvis interview – Adam “my toes are scary right now” LMAO – ok yes shallow but funny.

“To me, it shows humility when celebrities admit to mistakes and don’t act like they are always right. To me, Adam’s defensiveness comes across in an unpleasant way.”

if Adam doesn’t think he made a mistake, why should he admit such a thing…doesn’t seem defensive to me, he was asked a question and he answered it…and we all know how honest he is

Then I assume you never saw Crazy or the Zodiac performances. Nothing about Adam has changed. If we are going to talk about character, than it is also revealed in the interviews he’s given. He’s a nice guy. He has an obvious sexual energy which many woman responded to while he was on Idol and on the tour. He is aware of that sexual energy and he seeks to exploit it. Women were throwing underwear, sex toys, etc. at him while he was touring (despite the fact that there were children in the audience). Now suddenly, everyone is surprised because Adam has outed himself in such a sexualized manner. If you didn’t know what Adam was about, if you didn’t know how people were responding to him prior to the AMAs, then maybe this is a shock. But if you claim to know his character, then surely you must know that Adam’s performance at the AMAs was very much in character.

I would wager a guess that a very small percentage of people who watched Adam on AI ever saw his pre-show performances, or even attended the tour. Yes, he pushed some boundaries on the show, but certainly nothing to this extent. He managed to raise quite a few eyebrows with his ROF performance, and that was comparatively tame. So for me (for you) it’s not so amazing that a lot of people would have been shocked by what they saw last night.

Maybe Adam honestly doesn’t believe that he crossed a line with his behavior, and it is certainly his right to have that opinion. But it obviously bothered a lot of people, for probably a lot of reasons, and it just doesn’t seem like he is shouldering any of the responsibility for that. Saying it’s a “mountain out of a molehill” and “sorry, I’m not a babysitter” seem like excuses and deflections. It’s just another in a list of recent controversies that have made him seem more an attention-craving diva and less the charming young man with the stellar voice that he presented on Idol.

You know when people talk about Adam being like Madonna, Elvis, The Beatles, Prince, Bowie’ ¦They are not talking about The people or artist they are NOW. But the artist they where when they first started out. …

How quickly people forget. Madonna Had so much banning I can’t even count how many times. You say the difference is she is a true artist and professional. Well that was not the sentiment at the time. None of the above artist where welcomed with open arms by Middle America and mainstream USA. So when one is comparing Adam to these Artist it is to the rebelliousness and artistic interpretations that was not appreciated by the masses at the time.

Perfectly said, dhunken. And you’re right, people do conveniently forget.

Oh Adam you’re right. A mountain now stands where a molehill should be…exactly as you planned it when you pre-emptively used the word discrimination immediately following your performance.

Nobody censored his kiss. They censored him flipping the audience the bird and getting the simulated BJ. There are no examples of anybody else who did those things that night.

If they censored his kiss, I would be agreeing with you that it is discrimination. But that didn’t happen no matter how many times it is implied that it did.

are u in the west coast? cos from what i saw the kiss was censored and in their statement today ABC includes the kiss as part of the reason for the cancellation so yes it is discriminatory.

but I don’t think it’s fair to say he was not discriminated against. You are not him or know the extent of what he went through. Adam does not use this discrimination card often and he could.

Nobody’s saying he’s never been discriminated against in his life, of course he has. We’re talking about the show Sunday night and ABC’s actions. Period.

He doesn’t use the card often? He hasn’t had much chance, he’s only been famous briefly and only recently let off the AI leash.

Last week he said he has no time or inclination right now to be political, but that tune sure changed fast. Now he wants people to get worked up on his behalf, but he couldn’t be bothered last week for other people? That gives people pause.

wow, the girls screaming like crazy during Alexa Chung & biggest screams were when they showed pic of the kiss.

I’m an old lady of 52(my b-day tomorrow) and I thought it was awesomely hawwt

Thank you so much MJ. My husband and I were sitting here reading this thread for hours and wondered when you were going to jump in with an objection to all the fanbaiting and insults to the Adam fans. As always, fair and balanced, that is why we enjoy your blog so very much.

My mother wouldn’t let me watch Madonna when I was a teen. I luved her and wanted to dress like her in all those cool clothes……but, NO, my mother thought she would assist me in failing at life. Didn’t matter, I snuck around, listened to her music, and dressed like her when I got the chance. Oh fun times!

If they censored his kiss, I would be agreeing with you that it is discrimination. But that didn’t happen no matter how many times it is implied that it did.

We had a few reports the kiss was censured in some areas.

Either way, of course it’s discrimination. Janet Jackson can simulate a handjob, Eminem can say he raped a bunch of women. Nobody is complaining, I wonder why.

Deleted-very bad timing for attempt at humor..

And best headline so far related to the shenanigans goes to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-archer/adam-lambert-breaks-throu_b_369089.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

“Adam Lambert breaks through the glass ceiling. American pouts.”

LMAO

And now this from Jim Cantiello:

Here’s a novel idea! Adam Lambert could show up for a gig and sing the way he did on ‘Idol!’  You know, in tune! And not out of breath! At this point, a solid vocal might be the biggest shock for America yet. I want my old Adam back! You can keep the kinky stage show, Mr. Lambert. Just remember to bring your vocal chops with you next time!

Yes! thank you Jim. Well hopefully he can do that on Letterman and CBS.

But sigh, Adam I was kind of feeling you with the Ryan interview, but you lost me again with the Alex Chung one. If you do a crappy VOCAL performance, you need to say that. Even you admitted it was “pitchy,” well admit that again and wish that at least that part was better. Don’t say you wouldn’t change a thing when you know the vocals sucked. I know that wasn’t really the question, but you should include that even if you’re not going to apologize for the rest of your performance. Which I also think is a mistake, but clearly that’s not going to change.

cos from what i saw the kiss was censored

Can we please get a YouTube of that because the one I saw still had the kiss. All the articles I’ve read say the same thing (kiss was left in).

oceana
11/24/2009 at 4:49 pm

Please give me a list of other artist who have done this! ‘ ¦.Oh and I mean who did it without being forced!!!!!

Probably a lot of artists do, but for starters, David Cook did. He posted something in anger on myspace, and the next day basically said it was a mistake and he shouldn’t have. Other times he has apologized for things too. Others do this but DC just came to mind since I have been following him lately.

All Idol bubble!!! Where is J-Lo’s apology for falling…Or Rhianns for sounding so horrible or Janet’s for lip-syncing or J-Lo’s for that matter. Which brings me to what I think was the most obscene thing at the AMA….The Lip-syncing!!!!!! A live show and artist lip sync. WTF. Even though Adam was not at his singing best (though the last vocal run was awesome) he at least sang live!!!

Disclaimer: I love David Cook….

‘Making a mountain out of a molehill’.

Is that RCA’s publicity campaign in a nutshell?

Nobody’s complaining here about Eminem and Janet because this is a thread about Adam. There’s plenty to complain about there too, though.

Then I assume you never saw Crazy or the Zodiac performances.

Nope, never saw that. I saw what was on American Idol, that’s mostly what I knew about Adam. That’s probably true for most people who watched the show. Only his fans went further into it, that’s what fans do.

I expected him to be a bit outrageous, I was excited to see what he would do. I didn’t expect what he did on the AMAs. People are forming their opinions of him still, based on what he is doing and saying now, like I said. Most of us don’t have time to go looking through old videos of him.

wow, the girls screaming like crazy during Alexa Chung & biggest screams were when they showed pic of the kiss.

I’m an old lady of 52(my b-day tomorrow) and I thought it was awesomely hawwt

happy almost birthday!!!!

hmmmmm methinks RCA should release a new album like today to cover up this shit.lol.

Nobody’s complaining here about Eminem and Janet because this is a thread about Adam. There’s plenty to complain about there too, though.

Exactly. If this was a thread about Eminem, I would have plenty to say and none of it pretty.

Janet Jackson can simulate a handjob, Eminem can say he raped a bunch of women. Nobody is comlaining, I wonder why.

Let me guess. Discrimination? What did I win? LOL. Or maybe it’s a conspiracy. But seriously, is there video of Janet’s hand job? Because I really don’t know how blatant it was without seeing it. As for Eminem’s lyrics, maybe people didn’t hear what he was saying. There’s no excuse for some of those rap lyrics on network tv, I agree. There’s a definite bias in favor of rap. Rappers get away with a lot that they shouldn’t. But I don’t see it as anti-gay discrimination. Rappers do that on all the shows. The logic isn’t holding up with this argument.

Eminem can say he raped a bunch of women

Didn’t Eminem get beeped a lot of times? Should he be complaining about that too? Where is his artistic freedom? He knows he has freedom and he grants the others the right to beep him when he crosses the line on their television show. I haven’t read single article about how he’s whinging that the AMAs discriminated against him.

And last I checked, Eminem was not an Idol contestant so that may be why he doesn’t get a lot of discussion on Idol blogs. Maybe Eminem should start crusading for the rights of foul-mouthed rappers to be on Idol because even the clean-mouthed ones never seem to get to be contestants.

nnadinola
11/24/2009 at 5:07 pm

‘To me, it shows humility when celebrities admit to mistakes and don’t act like they are always right. To me, Adam’s defensiveness comes across in an unpleasant way.’ 

if Adam doesn’t think he made a mistake, why should he admit such a thing’ ¦doesn’t seem defensive to me, he was asked a question and he answered it’ ¦and we all know how honest he is

Exactly nnadinola.
Just because he is confident and does not want to dwell on the negative (I’m sure he knows the AMA vocals were not great) he is doing the business side with all his might. He will blow the doors off with his vocals on Letterman and on the Early Show. It’s all about audience perception. Adam keeping things moving forward is his job and his obligation to himself. Every performance will build his rep as a singer/entertainer.
And believe me MORE people are going to watch Letterman and any other show Adam is on after that performance on the AMAs, even if just out of curiosity. So in effect he is showing a larger # of people is beautiful voice than would have before.

I am from the west coast people and the Kiss DID NOT get edited!

I can’t believe people here are condoning censorship just because they don’t like the performer.

What it boils down to is that Adam is being censored because he is gay, no other way to spin it. Love him or hate him: It’s wrong!

PS: Regarding the Out-debacle: he didn’t say he didn’t want to present himself as a gay performer. He said he wasn’t comfortable talking about political issues. Political as in gay marriage, marches and so on and so forth.

wow, TIme MAgazine weighs in:

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/11/24/adam-lambert-too%E2%80%94ahem%E2%80%94controversial-for-gma/?xid=rss-topstories

Nobody’s saying he’s never been discriminated against in his life, of course he has. We’re talking about the show Sunday night and ABC’s actions. Period.

He doesn’t use the card often? He hasn’t had much chance, he’s only been famous briefly and only recently let off the AI leash.

Last week he said he has no time or inclination right now to be political, but that tune sure changed fast. Now he wants people to get worked up on his behalf, but he couldn’t be bothered last week for other people? That gives people pause.

Obviously you are going to stand your ground and I am going to stick to my opinion…That is the beauty of this blog many opinions can be expressed with none of them being actual fact. We are all offering conjecture, opinion, beliefs, likes and dislikes. I respect and welcome them all and that is why I come to this blog…

His album is #5 overall right now. FYE, the single, is #44.

Nobody’s complaining here about Eminem and Janet because this is a thread about Adam. There’s plenty to complain about there too, though.

Yeah but this is also about idols making into the mainstream music scene, not the local choir.

I apologize that I have not had the chance to read through the entire thread yet. I had made plans to go down to the Hudson Theatre tomorrow to see Adam on GMA. Then I came to MJs blog only to find out it has been canceled. I called the theatre to confirm and the woman told me they wanted Adam to be there it was ABCs decision not to have him on the show. Ive been groaning for the better part of an hour until an internet friend told me Adam is going to be on the CBS Early Show instead and read this on Twitter. In my heart I feel Adam is gonna need fan support I want to be there. MJ, anyone please can you help me find out if this is true? thanks

Now he wants people to get worked up on his behalf, but he couldn’t be bothered last week for other people?

But, he doesn’t. He never said he did. People found out about the cancellation, read the memo where the kiss was most definitely mentioned, and said, “This is BS!” People are responding because we know that what ABC did was wrong. Even the Parent whatever council thinks they over-reacted! The reality is that people outside the Idol bubble get it. Check twitter. It’s not just Adam’s fans making a ruckus.

Congratulations, MJ. You’ve turned your blog into a VFTW/Idoltard hater site.

edit: your lack of self-awareness is mind-boggling

And blow jobs are required in the mainstream music scene?

Kirsten
11/24/2009 at 5:13 pm

cos from what i saw the kiss was censored

Can we please get a YouTube of that because the one I saw still had the kiss. All the articles I’ve read say the same thing (kiss was left in).

The Kiss was not censored!!!!!!

No, the kiss wasn’t censored. But, ABC expressed concern about it in their memo, today. It was mentioned very specifically.

BTW, HDD has Kris’ numbers in for his album, if anyone’s interested.

I know you may not read any of our responses.. sadly i was one of your greatest fans.. your obvious disregard to “our” feelings and our morals is more disturbing than the performance. Who do you think will be buying your CD? WE WILL.. YOU SHOULD CARE

Does anyone here believe that if Adam had wrapped his naked self in a huge peek-a-boo ace bandage (hey, it ties in with the bondage theme), that he would have been allowed to perform? Just askin’.

lamslova Yes it is true. He is going to be on CBS and meet and greet with fans. Yeah!

Kirsten
11/24/2009 at 5:16 pm

Eminem can say he raped a bunch of women

Didn’t Eminem get beeped a lot of times? Should he be complaining about that too? Where is his artistic freedom? He knows he has freedom and he grants the others the right to beep him when he crosses the line on their television show. I haven’t read single article about how he’s whinging that the AMAs discriminated against him.

And last I checked, Eminem was not an Idol contestant so that may be why he doesn’t get a lot of discussion on Idol blogs. Maybe Eminem should start crusading for the rights of foul-mouthed rappers to be on Idol because even the clean-mouthed ones never seem to get to be contestants.

Show me where he was banned!!!! Bleeping does not mean you can’t read his lip and know what words he is saying. I did!

I agree, it is not just the fans that are upset, it is news orgs, entertainment news shows and blogs, celebrities and everyday people around the world who feel artisitc expression is being squashed and a double standard for males, particularly gay gales is occurring.

This has been trending, Adam and ABC/GMA all day, Adam has been trending for two days now, IMO there are not enough Adam fans to sustain this and most of the twitterers are clearly not Adam fans

BTW, HDD has Kris’ numbers in for his album, if anyone’s interested.

Yes, interested!

Hey, I didn’t care for his AMA performance AT ALL and I am one of those who found the bj simulation vulgar as hell… but I think it was an overreaction to cancel his GMA performance. Stick it on tape delay or something. Give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn’t do it again, and then if he did (and I don’t think he would, I think he *is* smarter than that)… THEN you can cancel his appearances like the New Year’s Eve thing (again, I don’t think he would, that’s just my line of reasoning for why it was silly to cancel).

It does make me wonder if it was sponsor pressure.

Does anyone here believe that if Adam had wrapped his naked self in a huge peek-a-boo ace bandage (hey, it ties in with the bondage theme), that he would have been allowed to perform? Just askin’.

Well, if nothing else… it would’ve been interesting. Heh.

Adam, was AI just a performance. or was that personality you? what i loved so much about you was your humility. Where is it now? Your lifestyle obviously is very different than the average american.. but you will need “america” to buy your concert tickets and your records.. so your “making a mountain out of a mole hill” is so scary to me.. that your that out of touch of your fan base… What does “fear” have to do with us seeing raunch at its best and responding to it? Your an AMAZING singer.. Why the antics? why the negative show? you probably just killed your sales for that song.. was it worth it? do you have any honor for the “sacred” spot given to you from the AMA for someone whose never had a hit record? Where’s your remorse? What about children that love your music? what type of fans are your targeting? from what i gather it will be a small % of americans..

I have watched approximately 75 of Adam’s performances. If he doesn’t have perfect pitch, it’s close enough. There have only been two performances that I found hard to listen to because of pitch problems. (Top3-Cryin & Sun FYE) I find it very easy to believe there were sound mix or some such problem for him to not be able to fix them quickly.
Children too young to see Adam’s performance on Sunday, need parents who know appropriate bed times for a next day school night.
For adults who were offended and continued to watch, I have no answer.
For adults who were offended and want to prevent the rest of us from seeing such performances, thank God you are not members of the Supreme Court.

Still loving the fact that Adam is holding 15 spots in the iTunes Pop Top 200 singles….Awesome!

I really enjoyed the two Adam interviews. Thanks M.J.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch… Adam’s FYE Deluxe is #5 overall and he has got 17 songs charting on the Pop chart.

“your obvious disregard to ‘our’  feelings and our morals is more disturbing than the performance. Who do you think will be buying your CD? WE WILL.. YOU SHOULD CARE”

Cynthia, I am sorry your feelings were hurt by Adam’s actions but not everyone feels the same way obviously. He can’t please everybody.

I can’t believe people here are condoning censorship just because they don’t like the performer.

What it boils down to is that Adam is being censored because he is gay, no other way to spin it. Love him or hate him: It’s wrong!

Hey, ABC’s a private company and the AMAs are owned by someone too. Furthermore, the airwaves are owned by the public but are regulated just as a lot of public goods are. The government (not ABC or the AMAs) cannot infringe upon your freedom of speech, but no one has a right to do whatever they want on a corporate-owned TV show, period. As such, no one’s stopping Adam from doing his act at all. He can tour the entire country and do it his way, as long as the people staging it have no objection.

HDD will have the estimates up tomorrow, correct?

The Kiss was not censored!!!!!!

Agreed, it wasn’t so making that argument, uh yeah, no. That’s not a good argrument to make, because it’s factually inaccurate.

Oh and sigh, I really wish I could sit Adam down and give him a talking to like I did my brother and what continues to be a struggle in my own life…not. to. be. so. effing. defensive! To own your crap and yes, admit you’re w-w-w-w-wr-wr-wron—that word that means not right. (yes, that was a Fonz reference).

Alaadam Thank You!!!!!

Another Add from Minneapolis

Been sick and I have not eaten in two days I need food now.

feel better squirrely:)

Cynthia your post is begging for dramatic background music

mv looks sickkkkkkk .brb listening to the Elvis interview…

Maybe Eminem should start crusading for the rights of foul-mouthed rappers to be on Idol

LOL Kristen you are pretty darn funny.

People are not hearing that for many of us it was the aggressive nature of the acts that Adam performed. A lot is forgiven when there is sensuality, humor, subtlety, or irony. But there was none of that. The simulated bj for instance, it looked like Adam was actually grinding the man’s mouth into his crotch. It didn’t look simulated much. This made Adam seem crude and lacking in sensitivity.

And good point about Eminem being beeped. And him not whining about it.

Ugh, I don’t know which I am more over, Adam Lambert or his defenders. The guy totally messed up his AMA’s performance. He was off pitch, his vocals were the worst I had ever heard from him, he looked pinched and sort of constipated, movement was stiff and awkward, he fell badly although he did recover, and generally seemed way off his game.

It was not sexy, it was painful and awkward. No one seems to care that he grabbed a member of his band, an employee and force kissed him. Was that all right with the keyboardist? Did anyone ask if he felt a little exploited by his boss? It doesn’t matter what gender, is it OK to just grab your employee and kiss them hard, in front of millions of people, and not care about whether they are ok with that? And I don’t mean because it was guy on guy, rather I do care that it was boss on employee without consent.

I have got to say, it was one of the most selfish, self indulgent performances I have seen recently. Adam justifies it by saying it was fun. Fun for whom? Obviously fun for him but the audience was not exactly loving it and he flipped them off. Was it fun for the keyboardist who got grabbed? It was not fun for me as a viewer because it was so poorly done. I like a little edgy, quasi kinky fun sex as much as the next person, but again, it was not sexy, it was just bad.

It bothers me that people will flock to the controversy, feed off of it, make it about gay sex. It is a disservice to all the gay people who are not exploitive, self-indulgent, self-centered, unthoughtful and uncaring. Adam did not care if kids saw explicit sex. And yes, it might have been even worse if he grabbed a woman and forced her face in his crotch. I think it would have been even more offensive because it was on the networks, accessible to kids.

But mostly, it was just abysmal quality, made Britney look not so bad, yuck.

From Hits Daily Double:

The network said it received about 1,500 complaints. But one person familiar with the situation said ABC gets more complaints from viewers over broadcasts of Dancing With the Stars.”

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Better keep the kiddies away from the corrupt “Dancing With the Stars”!!!!

tierbee
11/24/2009 at 5:27 pm
Does anyone here believe that if Adam had wrapped his naked self in a huge peek-a-boo ace bandage (hey, it ties in with the bondage theme), that he would have been allowed to perform? Just askin’.

Well, if nothing else’ ¦ it would’ve been interesting. Heh.

LMAO – now THAT I would pay to see…

can he bring guns on stage and talk about letting someone put a gun to your head to get an adrenalin rush too? Please don’t get me started on how f****ed up it is that violence is ok and sex is bad.

@AdamLambert Great news Glambert fans! Adam is going to be on @TheEllenShow this Monday, I just found out!
half a minute ago from web · Reply

Does anyone here live on the west coast and can you tell us if the kiss was cut out there? Since some are saying it was and others are saying it wasn’t.

Maybe it was a decision made by local affiliates and not by ABC overall. In other words, maybe it was beeped out in some areas but not others.

Hey, I didn’t care for his AMA performance AT ALL and I am one of those who found the bj simulation vulgar as hell’ ¦ but I think it was an overreaction to cancel his GMA performance.

I wonder if they cancelled it also because he came out afterwards and complained about censorship when they bleeped out part of his show in the west. Maybe they didn’t take kindly to his public complaining. I thought it seemed, among other things, ungrateful. ABC gave him that prime spot. He couldn’t accept the beeping gracefully and keep his thoughts to himself. I doubt that that helped to endear him to the network.

And then you say ‘oh, but Eminem got blipped’  and ‘Adam’s in an idol’ , ‘this is an Idol blog and Janet has nothing to do with it.’ .

I think a lot of people have said, me included, that there were certainly other inappropriate acts as well. But this *is* an Idol blog, so we talk about Idols here. And that would be Adam

I agree, it is not just the fans that are upset, it is news orgs, entertainment news shows and blogs, celebrities and everyday people around the world who feel artisitc expression is being squashed and a double standard for males, particularly gay gales is occurring.

This has been trending, Adam and ABC/GMA all day, Adam has been trending for two days now, IMO there are not enough Adam fans to sustain this and most of the twitterers are clearly not Adam fans

Oh this is huge. This publicity is insane by any standard. Now if RCA could just find a hit single off this album (and I think there are a few potential hits there) then they’d be in business.

DON’T lecture posters

My Apologies MJ…I felt I was getting a lecture…but I know that is not an excuse…but I agree that Two wrongs don’t make a right. Again I am sorry.

I hope the numbers are decent tomorrow or it’s going to be ugly here.

You mean uglier than it has been these past two days?

Still wondering if EW was correct when it added that Adam will have a sit down interview with Letterman tomorrow night. I could see Letterman deciding to interview him after all the hoopla. Or EW could be confused.

Maybe they should start showing porn on mainstream TV in the US: artistic expression!

I really don’t get what enacting displays of s&m sex – male on male, male on female, female on male or female on female, or anything else for that matter – has to do with artistry or artistic expression.

I mean – seriously?!

Maybe they should do bestiality next.

Sexuality is absolutely fine. I get turned on by a bit of s&m fantasy when it crops up in books, myself. No problem.

But it has nothing to do with artistry or artistic expression.

It is titilation and provocativeness – end of story.

It’s the musical equivalent of a girl with big tits, becoming a star by flashing her cleavage around. Or is that artistic expression too?

Now, some of the people who peddle this line, have the song writing skills to back it up and people who buy the music sometimes also buy into the line that it is all so artistically wonderful.

But does anyone ever stop to ask themselves the question – why?

I’m sure that there are plenty of places in Soho (don’t know the US equivalent) where we could all go to avail ourselves of just such artistry: and it might even be performed to a higher standard.

The biggest disappointment of Adam Lambert’s performance and the ensuing hoo-ha, to me, is the way that we all – and I do mean we, because here I am commenting on it again – just follow along like good little sheep, in our outrage, either for or against. The content of the performance itself – and all those like it – is as old as the hills itself.

Maybe we could get back to the point where the music itself is the artistry and the performance supports it at some point?

4evrmomof4
11/24/2009 at 5:18 pm

wow, TIme MAgazine weighs in:

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/11/24/adam-lambert-too%E2%80%94ahem%E2%80%94contro

I like Times take and in the comments beneath someone mentioned Justify My Love video from Madonna and I watched it – CLEARLY where Adam is going with the visuals for this song – regardless of on stage or in Video.
Again, bravo Adam!

can he bring guns on stage and talk about letting someone put a gun to your head to get an adrenalin rush too?

There’s a reason my kids watch no VH-1 or MTV or whatever (does MTV still play videos?) or listen to Top 40 radio – it is NOT appropriate for kids. But I do feel bad for any innocent Idol watcher who hasn’t followed Adam since the show but wanted to see that guy who sang those purty songs perform… and got… that. And it happens, and it wasn’t *that* late on central time (my older kid was up until 10, he has a cold and was having trouble breathing). Now that said, that’s part of the joy of breaking out of your Idol persona, which is often edited to be what Idol wants you to be, and that can be a tough little dance. I guess Adam just wanted to rip that bandaid right off. I just think it would’ve made more sense AFTER the night before his album drop. (I mean, look at David Cook… he still has outraged morality police fans who are pissed because he… has SEX! Gasp!) People have a hard time with the Idol persona vs. real world persona. But I think you can morph into the “real you” a little more gently, lol.

Please don’t get me started on how f****ed up it is that violence is ok and sex is bad.

That really bothers me too. But there was aggression in his performance. It wasn’t sweet lovemaking either. But I am with you about the violence. I hate the violence everywhere.

You mean uglier than it has been these past two days?

Still wondering if EW was correct when it added that Adam will have a sit down interview with Letterman tomorrow night. I could see Letterman deciding to interview him after all the hoopla. Or EW could be confused.

there were reports from the taping on ontd_ai and no one mentioned a sit down just a performance.

what type of fans are your targeting? from what i gather it will be a small % of americans..

Adam is probably targeting the same small % of Americans who are fans of Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and the Black Eyed Peas. Just guessing.

The American Idols (from the show) have always been held to high moral standards by the viewership. I remember when Taylor Hicks fans got in such an uproar because……..gasp…….he smoked! And then there was the first time an “idol” dropped the F bomb, lol. Adam has brought this to a whole ‘nother level fer sure. (Not that I like what Adam did at the AMAs, because I don’t, but interesting none the less how things have changed.) As a smaller example, Adam thinks nothing of saying “pissed off” in interviews. A little thing I know, but oh my how times have changed in Idol land.

there were reports from the taping on ontd_ai and no one mentioned a sit down just a performance.

I just went back and checked EW. It looks like they revised the paragraph to say appear on Letterman. Ah, well…I guess you can’t have it all.

I am sorry if this is OT why does Adam now have 3 different Albums on Itunes all with the same Title “For Your Entertainment”

Adam Lambert, Rihanna Help American Music Awards Score Big Ratings http://bit.ly/8jqnqo

THIS

David Cook has sex? Shit, I need to sell my tickets for Friday night. I’m horrified.

And good point about Eminem being beeped. And him not whining about it.

Yet, he wasn’t beeped when he rapped that Slim Shady has 17 rapes under his belt?

Two words for Adam…..grow up. Take some responsibility for your actions and move on. You’re sounding like a whiny kid who got grounded. This isn’t the Zodiac any more.

It’s one thing to be unapologetic, but he just sounds so defiant.

The American Idols (from the show) have always been held to high moral standards by the viewership. I remember when Taylor Hicks fans got in such an uproar because’ ¦’ ¦..gasp’ ¦’ ¦.he smoked! And then there was the first time an ‘idol’  dropped the F bomb, lol.

Yeah – but that’s just such bs too.

I hate the fact that these people are supposed to live such pure, unsullied lives. Fine when you’re pure, unsullied David Archuleta – and that’s not a dig at Archie; he’s a cute and very likeable kid – but not when you’re a real, living, breathing, rounded human being.

I despised the way that the media gave Cook a kicking last year, because he had the temerity to ask a small proportion of his fans not to continue with their OTT stalking behvaiour and to afford him and the band a little bit of privacy.

And I despised that reaction, before I knew that he was actually dealing the the impending death of his brother at the time. And then, he had to go on a crappy round of interviews, apologising for offending his fans.

And was there one word of retraction or shamefacedness from the media when they learnt that actually, the man might have had a damn good reason for craving a bit more privacy at that moment – no.

The double standards to which the idols are held against the rest of the world pisses me off anyway – but when compared to the complete arse licking fest that is the media relationship to Lambert this year, I find it truely sickening.

I am sorry if this is OT why does Adam now have 3 different Albums on Itunes all with the same Title ‘For Your Entertainment’ 

that is weird — one appears to be the deluxe album, one the regular album, and one sort of appears to be the deluxe but at .99 cents less….

I am sorry if this is OT why does Adam now have 3 different Albums on Itunes all with the same Title ‘For Your Entertainment’ 

Well two of them are the regular and deluxe versions of the album….the third must have been a glitch, because it is gone now, but I had seen it earlier also.

4evrmomof4
11/24/2009 at 5:53 pm
Adam Lambert, Rihanna Help American Music Awards Score Big Ratings http://bit.ly/8jqnqo

THIS

The boy is on FIRE….he could not have bought this much publicity..CRAZY in a good way! Roger his PR guy must have made a deal with the devil to get this much constant media attention!

He was whinging in the Rolling Stone article (and many from Sunday night) when he complained about being censored before it even happened. That’s like epic whinging. Whinging in advance. Wait until something happens to you before you start shouting discrimination.

This is it right there. He cried “OMG DESCRIMINATION!!!evelen!!” before anyone even did anything.

If he is telling the truth about the AMAs, he cannot be trusted on live TV anymore. Why shouldn’t ABC believe him? Honestly, for those who think he’s telling the truth, why would you think that risk should be taken at 8 am in the morning? If you think like me, that he’s lying through his teeth and he did it all to create a controversy, then you might think he could be trusted to remain sentient during the morning hour and know how to avoid an FCC violation.

Exactly. They had no choice but to cancel it after he said he couldn’t control himself. I’m sure he’s laughing about this not realizing that stunts like this do not do you good in the long run. He’s established himself as a famewhore, and turned off a lot of people he may some day wish were in his corner.

The double standards to which the idols are held against the rest of the world pisses me off anyway ‘“ but when compared to the complete arse licking fest that is the media relationship to Lambert this year, I find it truely sickening.

What do you expect? He’s one of their own. A shallow idiot in desperate need of attention. They understand him more than any of us every will. lol

I think that the viewing figures actually showed peaks for Lady Gaga and Rhianna – but why stick to the facts when you can spin them?

um thats probably THE FU$&KING BEST interview ive ever heard…

Um, I am hoping the big ratings were due to the anticipation of seeing big name stars and not the anticipation of hoping to see vulgar/trashy performances.

As a smaller example, Adam thinks nothing of saying ‘pissed off’  in interviews.

hmm.yknow the weird thing is I’ve been saying pissed off forever srsly since like kindergarten.never thought it was “bad”,I mean I got corrected occasionally but still…

I believe the viewing numbers actually dropped by 1 or 1.3 million during the last half hour of the show.

Which brings me to what I think was the most obscene thing at the AMA’ ¦.The Lip-syncing!!!!!! A live show and artist lip sync. WTF. Even though Adam was not at his singing best (though the last vocal run was awesome) he at least sang live!!!

Insert the late, lamented Clapping Smiley here.

AND WHY IS THIS SHIT ON THE YAHOO FRONT PAGE AGAIN?!!

time? FML

Was there a problem with this at 2:20?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-eMFnRi0M

From Jim C.

Here’s a novel idea! Adam Lambert could show up for a gig and sing the way he did on ‘Idol!’  You know, in tune! And not out of breath! At this point, a solid vocal might be the biggest shock for America yet.

Adam has had one appearance with one song. Maybe Jim should write this same letter to Kris. Some of his performances of LLWD have been subpar also.

No, the kiss wasn’t censored. But, ABC expressed concern about it in their memo, today. It was mentioned very specifically.

I’ve been Googling like mad and can’t find a transcript of this “memo” where the kiss is mentioned. All I’ve seen is a very general statement about their concerns about him repeating a similar performance on morning television. Could somebody link it please?

I don’t feel like Adam should apologize for being pitchy. He already admitted it. At least he sang live! And…on his pitchiest day…he is still leagues above the rest.

It’s one thing to be unapologetic, but he just sounds so defiant.

So true. And I absolutely love that about him. He is polarizing and intent on delivering his art HIS way. He is not forcing anyone to buy into it. And he is very aware of the dual effect. I love that.

Adam is probably targeting the same small % of Americans who are fans of Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and the Black Eyed Peas. Just guessing.

I must say that I really like Katy Perry. She’s controversal but to me, not in a bad way. She has fun with it and to me, there’s nothing offensive about what she does. I don’t know much about the other 3, except that Lady Gaga seems potentially interesting, though not my cup of tea musically. Last night I found her “nude” act interesting. But what was that weird thing in her crotch area? I never could figure it out. (Talk about simulated nudity, do any figure skating fans remember Leonova and Kavalko’s beautiful program where they looked like they were totally nude? It was beautiful.)

I must have missed something, because it appeared to me that the vast majority of the AMA performances were live. Why would all those artists use backing tracks that were off key or flat?

Maybe Jim should write this same letter to Kris. Some of his performances of LLWD have been subpar also.

1. Kris was never hailed as a technically stellar singer or called a “rock god” repeatedly.

2. I’ve watched all of his performances of LLWD and any problems are a symptom of the band not quite clicking yet, which most people agree with. Not a reflection of Kris’s vocals.

ETA: As for that clip from Dancing With the Stars…I’ve seen it referenced on most episodes of The Soup since it aired, for how risque it was. So yes, I would say it has received some attention, in that realm of commentary.

I hope you don’t change your mind, cuz you are banned.

No, the kiss wasn’t censored. But, ABC expressed concern about it in their memo, today. It was mentioned very specifically.

My impression was that they objected to not being told about it in advance, which was a fair point to raise. If Adam kept some things back and didn’t let them see the whole act in advance, he was lying by omission. As to why they didn’t bleep things out on time-delay, it was the very end of the show and maybe they didn’t want it to run over, they did move the camera away from the bj though on the east coast. Adam’s not being honest about what he was going to do can hurt him when it comes to trust. However what he loses in trust in one place, he’ll perhaps gain in notoriety in other places. Since notoriety does sell.

I also thought that ABC used that point in their memo but there might have been other reasons that they didn’t include in the memo. For instance, Adam’s public complaints of discrimination when he learned he was bleeped on the west coast. So I don’t know if it was just “the kiss” but a few other things surrounding it, as well as the simulated bj which was also alluded to. So it was not simply a “man on man kiss” but there is more to it.

In my country, if Adam did what he did on National Television, he will be banned. Period.

Maybe he doesn’t realize that while everything that he did is just nothing to him, it means a lot more to some people. He offended people. He has to realize that. Whether his conscience dictate him to apologize for offending (as opposed to apologizing for his actions) people just goes to show his true character.

I liked Adam. But this entire debacle just confirmed why he was never my favorite. He is a poseur. There is something contrived and fake about the persona he projects. He’s not as respectful as he appeared to be on Idol.

This is just my opinion.

studio57…hey, aren’t you the one this morning who said you liked “Down The Rabbit Hole?” I am having trouble downloading it but I will get it eventually, I guess. It was so funny because when I told my husband the name of the song, he said, “well, I hope that’s where all the trolls went.” Just gotta love that guy!!

No, I think you mistook my blog for a fansite.

ETA: As for that clip from Dancing With the Stars’ ¦I’ve seen it referenced on most episodes of The Soup since it aired, for how risque it was. So yes, I would say it has received some attention, in that realm of commentary.

LOL yes it does get risque at DWTS, but so far it’s okay. However if Maksim ever grabs a celebrity partner and shoves her face into his crotch and grinds against it, I will definitely complain. Somehow I just don’t see that ever happening.

Okay all you old timers…….does this rival Season 5 or what, lol.

Folks, just to really highlight the total hypocrisy and discrimination of ABC cancelling the GMA performance, you really must watch a particular youtube video from one of the darlings of ABC’s prime time line-up, “Dancing with the Stars”. There’s a street dance move called the “Skull F*ck” that simulates forceful oral sex. You can see pro Derek Hough performing a variation of this move with his partner Joanna Krupa at the 2:20 mark of this group mambo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-eMFnRi0M. It’s not as though it went unnoticed, as you can hear host Tom Bergeron comment on it.

Was there a problem with this at 2:20?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-eMFnRi0M

OH MY!!! “Not sure what that move was there.” ROFLMAO

IdolThoughts
11/24/2009 at 6:20 pm
I don’t feel like Adam should apologize for being pitchy. He already admitted it. At least he sang live! And’ ¦on his pitchiest day’ ¦he is still leagues above the rest.

At least he sang live? Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Alicia Keys, Carrie Underwood, Rihanna and Lady Gaga sing live too? And no, I respectfully disagree with you. On his pitchiest day, being the AMA performance, he did NOT sound leagues above everyone else. That’s the problem. He sounded just like everyone else, which is a shame, considering he has such a distinct voice.

oceana
11/24/2009 at 5:37 pm
Does anyone here live on the west coast and can you tell us if the kiss was cut out there? Since some are saying it was and others are saying it wasn’t.

I saw it on the West Coast airing and they did not edit the kiss out. They did cut to the audience to edit out the blowjob simulation, and they cut him flipping off the audience. I’m glad they edited out the blowjob simulation because I would not want to see it again. And Adam flipping off the audience? Someone tell me exactly how that was necessary. Oh, riiiiiiight, I forgot. Flipping off the audience is SO rock n’ roll.

Adam is probably targeting the same small % of Americans who are fans of Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and the Black Eyed Peas. Just guessing.

Lol. No, he’s not. First, fans of Rhianna, BEP, and Katy Perry are not necessarily fans of GaGa. And most fans of all of them seem to be crucifying Adam all over the internet.

You know, the reason GaGa is being taken more seriously lately is that people are beginning to realize she’s the real deal.When she says that Leigh Bowery, Grace Jones, and Klaus Nomi are her inspirations I believe it. She’s a performance artist, and really does put a lot of thought into everything she does.

This is also why Adam is decried as a poseur. There was clearly very little thought into that performance, and he has no understanding of how to use “shocking” elements and still create art. GaGa does have that understanding, and she seems to know that the only way to prove that is to keep performing, and use her actions to show her commitment.

I doubt Adam knew who Klaus Nomi was before Jim C tweeted him about it, and I while it’s clear he is a GaGa fan, he does not appear to be a fan of what she represents.

I don’t like that he’s essentially co-opting something he doesn’t understand for the sake of garnering attention. Eventually it will bite him in the ass.

You can see pro Derek Hough performing a variation of this move with his partner Joanna Krupa at the 2:20 mark of this group mambo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-eMFnRi0M. It’s not as though it went unnoticed, as you can hear host Tom Bergeron comment on it.

I have a cold and that made me laugh so hard it hurt. Geez, what a funny move. Joanna was probably like what????

EWMichaelSlezak We’ll be sitting down with Adam tomorrow. VERY excited! RT @TaraJean Will there be a Realite interview with Adam Lambert? half a minute ago from web

I think that Derek and Joanna did push the boundaries at times. She was always too raunchy for my tastes, and Derek runs a close second sometimes. Someone like Mya can be very sexual without being raunchy about it. Same with Maksim and Karina and actually most of them.

I don’t understand why Adam should apologize for his performance. He admitted he was pitchy. As for the rest, he put himself out there in a very controversial way and some people were outraged. Adam didn’t see anything wrong with what he did and whether or not you agree or disagree is not the point.He would be a lying hypocrite if he pretended that he thinks it was wrong when he so clearly does not. He said he was okay with ABC doing what they felt they had to do, he’s not gonna hang is head with shame because he isn’t ashamed. Frankly, I’d lose a lot of respect for him if he did turn tail and grovel. The people after his head would still not be happy so what would he accomplish?

“This is also why Adam is decried as a poseur. There was clearly very little thought into that performance, and he has no understanding of how to use ‘shocking’  elements and still create art. GaGa does have that understanding, and she seems to know that the only way to prove that is to keep performing, and use her actions to show her commitment.”

Did Adam do his own choreography? Didn’t GaGa break whiskey bottles over the piano..is that art? also lipsyncing towards the end of her act..some performance

“but not when you’re a real, living, breathing, rounded human being”

Wow. Archie must be a robot. *rolls eyes* I get irritated when people act like the only “real” involves sex, smoking, drinking or drugs. Just because someone didn’t make your mistakes in life doesn’t make them any less “a real, living, breathing, rounded human being.”

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Alicia Keys, Carrie Underwood, Rihanna and Lady Gaga sing live too?

Yes, but looking at the big picture…artists that choreograph their live routines with the same intensity very often lip synch. He definitely did not take the easy route on this one. And, in doing so I give him points for trying to do it all. Even if he was a tad pitchy. And I stick to my opinion that his “pitchy” would be a lot of people’s best day.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Better keep the kiddies away from the corrupt ‘Dancing With the Stars’ !!!!

If there is something on there that I don’t think is appropriate for my kids, I turn it off or don’t have them watch for that dance.

I’m curious if they receive over 1500 complaints a week or over the season. That may make a difference.

Weird. A few posts, including one of mine, just disappeared.

As for the rest, he put himself out there in a very controversial way and some people were outraged. Adam didn’t see anything wrong with what he did and whether or not you agree or disagree is not the point.

Rickey claimed many of the antics were not part of the rehearsal meaning he sandbagged the network and AMAs. That’s the kind of immature, unprofessional bridge burning that will quickly make you unwelcome as a guest as seen by the GMA cancellation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-eMFnRi0M

Tiger92: Thanks for posting this upthread… Around 2.20 there is a simulated blow job female on male and it’s from Dancing With The Stars, apparently the parent’s council doesn’t watch this show???

adamlambert My video “For Your Entertainment” is now up on adamofficial.com!!!! 13 minutes ago from Echofon

ETA: Oops, it’s got it’s own thread already.

Did Adam do his own choreography? Didn’t GaGa break whiskey bottles over the piano..is that art? also lipsyncing towards the end of her act..some performance

GaGa lip-synched? I doubt it. She did have the background vocals piped in, but she even made sure the audience knew that by taking her mic away from her mouth during the chorus of Bad Romance.

Yes, the whiskey bottles were art. For real. That burning music box was a brilliant metaphor for something small and beautiful being destroyed. The breaking bottles fit with the lyrics too.

Adam approved of the choreography, and according to him, the most vulgar and ridiculous elements were “in the moment” and all his decision. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him do that. He decided that those were valid choices.

I don’t understand why Adam should apologize for his performance.

He shouldn’t. For me, he should apologize for offending people. Of course, not everything he does will go well with other people’s sensibilities. But, I don’t think his performance at the AMA’s was meant to be shocking, it was meant to be offensive. He did cross the line. And he needs to acknowledge that.

nnadinola
11/24/2009 at 6:50 pm

Did Adam do his own choreography? Didn’t GaGa break whiskey bottles over the piano..is that art? also lipsyncing towards the end of her act..some performance

Adam didn’t do his own choreography, but he could have contributed to it. He could have, at any point, told his choreographer what direction he wanted to go in, what improvisations he could possibly make, and yet he did no such thing. Instead, he decided to go with the kitchen sink routine and see what sticks to ensure maximum publicity the next day.

Gaga’s performance was thought-provoking compared to Adam’s. Nothing she did on that stage was pointless. Her costume told a story; her breaking of the glass to get to the flaming piano was artfully executed, and the breaking of the whiskey bottles tied into her song “Speechless”. Adam? He pretty much just shoved his crotch at his back-up dancers’ faces because, you know, that’s how you roll when you’re a rocker. Oh, and flip off the audience, too, while you’re at it. That’s so rebellious!

Honestly, the only thing that frustrates me about Adam’s AMA performance is that he attempted a showstopping CLOSING showpiece with a band that’s been together for two weeks and with dancers he’s known for – what – 6 days with a song never before performed in public.

It was an impossible task that didn’t come off as well as it should have. Not talking about the OTT, just the musicality.

I didn’t have any trouble with ANY aspects of the routine. [shrugs] AMAs, VMAs, etc are all about the sexy these days. I was just disappointed that the performance wasn’t tight enough technically.

Its beyond my comprehension why everyone’s so atwitter about the kiss, etc. And yep, I have a kid. Was in bed before Janet came on, let alone Adam.

I don’t understand why Adam should apologize for his performance.

Maybe not but it would behoove him to stop whining because everyone didn’t love it. It’s a gamble to push the envelope. Remember Madonna and Like A Prayer? She gambled and lost a multi-million dollar sponsorship deal with Pepsi. Or Janet at the superbowl? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Get over it.

First part of Jim’s interview is up.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/459358/who-adam-lambert-was-flipping-off-at-the-amas.jhtml#id=1627064

Adam is probably targeting the same small % of Americans who are fans of Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and the Black Eyed Peas. Just guessing.

Lol. No, he’s not. First, fans of Rhianna, BEP, and Katy Perry are not necessarily fans of GaGa. And most fans of all of them seem to be crucifying Adam all over the internet.

Lol. Yes, he is. Some people are fans of all, some of just one or two of these groups. And most fans of all of them seem to be digging his music and him. It’s all over the internet.

hollygo9
11/24/2009 at 7:12 pm
I don’t understand why Adam should apologize for his performance.

Maybe not but it would behoove him to stop whining because everyone didn’t love it. It’s a gamble to push the envelope. Remember Madonna and Like A Prayer? She gambled and lost a multi-million dollar sponsorship deal with Pepsi. Or Janet at the superbowl? Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Get over it.

Yeah, I don’t remember Janet complaining about her boob slip. She pretty much just lay low until the whole fiasco faded away. Instead, Adam is in front of cameras mouthing off and telling people they can’t deal with all his rock n roll. I can’t believe he basically just dismissed some of his fans who were less than pleased with his AMAs performance. Way to win people over, Adam. He acknowledges that he went too far, and yet he refuses to apologize for it. And why should he? Apologies are so not rock n roll, right?

At this point, I feel like Adam is a walking cliche.

The official music video for FYE is up at AO here:

http://www.adamofficial.com/us/news/your-entertainment-official-music-video

It’s terrific!

Yes, the whiskey bottles were art. For real. That burning music box was a brilliant metaphor for something small and beautiful being destroyed. The breaking bottles fit with the lyrics too.

What “art” is to you, could be a joke to others. It is ART! People will never agree on what is considered to be art.
Personally, I like most of what Lady Gaga does. But, many people think she is a joke. (including many on this board) I’ve seen her referred to as Lady gaGAG on this board and seen many negative opinions of her.
That doesn’t keep me from liking her. I am a fan. However, I understand that not everyone is going to enjoy her music or think she is artistic. Those people are no more right than I am.
Why is this so hard to understand? I am crazy about Adam and think he is extremely talented. I enjoyed his performance at the AMAs. Others aren’t fans. Some didn’t like his performance. Those people are no more right than I am.

If there is something on there that I don’t think is appropriate for my kids, I turn it off or don’t have them watch for that dance.

How are the AMAs any different from DWTS?

Great piece on Adam on Access Hollywood…NBC..

will
11/24/2009 at 7:14 pm

First part of Jim’s interview is up.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/459358/who-adam-lambert-was-flipping-off-at-the-amas.jhtml#id=1627064

O wow, this is the first snippet I’ve seen of an Adam interview/ or listened to since the AMAs and he seemed different to me.

If there is something on there that I don’t think is appropriate for my kids, I turn it off or don’t have them watch for that dance.

How are the AMAs any different from DWTS?

IDK, we didn’t watch the AMAs. But I’m still curious about whether the over 1500 complaints includes one night of DWTS or an entire season.

ABC clearly overreacted and GMA blew a perfect opportunity to shine a greater light on this so-called controversy. Their hypocrisy and double standards offend me, and in fact the routine focus on crime, petty politics and violence in most evening news shows offends me far more than any type of sexually suggestive musical performance. But Adam? He inspires me with his beautiful voice and positive spirit. His new album is wonderful and his attitude is a breath of fresh air. Yes, it was a sexy song and dance and perhaps he did get carried away, but what did ABC expect? The song, its lyrics and the costumes planned were no surprise. I assumed maybe that’s why they planned to have him on last. ABC used Adam for hype then threw him under the bus. No one deserves that.

Gaga’s performance was thought-provoking compared to Adam’s. Nothing she did on that stage was pointless. Her costume told a story; her breaking of the glass to get to the flaming piano was artfully executed, and the breaking of the whiskey bottles tied into her song ‘Speechless’ . Adam? He pretty much just shoved his crotch at his back-up dancers’ faces because, you know, that’s how you roll when you’re a rocker. Oh, and flip off the audience, too, while you’re at it. That’s so rebellious!

I agree that that was a *great* Gaga performance. But she’s had some dumb and silly ones, too. I think I’ll give Adam a chance to do performances over a couple of years, as we’ve seen with Gaga now, and if, after that time, he doesn’t have any subtle, or thoughtful, or funny, or well performed ones, then I’ll say — Yeah, he’s lousy at this. … But, seriously, Gaga hasn’t just gone from brilliant artsy success to brilliant artsy success either. She’s tanked, too. Everybody does. Not so easy to put these things together so that they’re always brilliant or come off like clockwork.

IMO….ABC is doing damage control. And possibly facing a fine of some sort so need to keep it clean for awhile. I am not feeling sorry for AL, as I do think he has done a huge disservice to the gay community. I admired him for coming out, but think he has taken two major steps back for acceptance of gays. Geez….the leather, bondage, S&M thing. What was he thinking. Or not.

Its beyond my comprehension why everyone’s so atwitter about the kiss, etc. And yep, I have a kid. Was in bed before Janet came on, let alone Adam.

For about the millionth time, no one cares about the kiss. It was the simulated oral sex and the finger bang, and the flipping the bird that has people face-palming this monstrosity.

‘ ¦ But, seriously, Gaga hasn’t just gone from brilliant artsy success to brilliant artsy success either. She’s tanked, too. Everybody does. Not so easy to put these things together so that they’re always brilliant or come off like clockwork.

Oh, I totally agree. The first time I saw her perform on TV was definitely in the “tanked” category. It took a while for me to come back around.

It’s crazy to think that girl is 23 years old. I had no idea she was so young! She has so many years ahead of her to really hone her vision, and I can’t wait to see where she goes.

Adam…I see no artistic vision in what he’s doing. It’s all derivative and meaningless. That’s fine for an Idol contestant, but not fine if you claim it’s something more than that.

I think that one of the reasons there is such a backlash is because it was Adams first public performance outside of AI. He really is unknown to many people and this was his introduction. I think there are parallels to what Madonna did with Like a Virgin at the VMAs but she was already at least a year into her career when this happened. And with the Madonna Britney and Christina kiss they were all well into their careers. Also it was on MTV and not network. I do get what he’s saying about the other performances on the show but that’s why I think that at least part of the problem is that it was his first performance. I think he needed to be a bit more established and have more experience to really pull this off. There may have still been a controversary, but it wouldn’t hurt his career, which this might.

Kind of don’t think it was totally spur of the moment since he has so much stage experience I would think this would be less likely. I too, think that this is one of the reasons GMA cancelled, because they don’t know what he’s going to do. I’m also pretty sure his management is behind him on this also.

I do think he doesn’t understand some of his fans, I saw in an interview that he was surprised that some of his fans don’t like Lady Gaga, or are more conservative and don’t like that type of performance. He did say that if you didn’t like it then you’re not for me, but I think being that he just came off of IDOL he shouldn’t be so dismissive. I too wish he would have said sorry if I offended anyone or something like that. He’s coming across as a bit arrogant to some people. People I talk to that had never heard him just know about what he did at the AMAS, and not that he has an amazing voice.

Now I like Adam, just thought the performance went a bit too far for my taste, and I don’t like that song, but I like other songs on the CD. I must be a conservative fan. I can’t wait to see his performances tomorrow. Funny that the song hes doing is What do you want from me.

I didn’t watch the show but I have watched Adam’s video clip and read lots of comments. My take: I don’t care that Adam is gay, or that he kissed a guy, etc. My issue with Adam’s performance (along with many other performers today) is that they are sensationalizing aggression and violence and putting an erotic spin on it so it seems okay. There are so many victims of abuse in our society that I cringe when I see women (although I know men are abused too) being portrayed in this manner. You can be sexy and erotic without physical aggression. If someone wants to play these games in the privacy of their own homes with a willing partner, fine – but I don’t see the need for it on tv in an “entertainment” mode. Maybe I have overreacted but I guess we all interpret things differently.

Jennifer Vanasco
Editor in chief, 365gay.com
Posted: November 24, 2009 01:38 PM

How Adam Lambert Is Hurting Gay Marriage

Yes, Adam Lambert. You’re right.

Hiphop artists and women get away with salacious performances all the time without an uproar. Of course, there was that famous Madonna-and-Britney kiss that caused a stir, but that was likely because the artists were ‘“ well, Madonna and Britney.

And yes, Adam Lambert, your performance on ABC’s American Music Awards this week was not really all that raunchy. A kiss is a kiss, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I could have done without you sticking a guy’s head in your crotch spontaneously, but it happened so quickly, and in the midst of so many other things, that if the dancer didn’t mind, I’m not sure ‘offensive’  is what I’d call it.

What I’d call it, instead, is misguided’ ¦.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-vanasco/why-adam-lambert-is-right_b_369274.html

He shouldn’t. For me, he should apologize for offending people. Of course, not everything he does will go well with other people’s sensibilities. But, I don’t think his performance at the AMA’s was meant to be shocking, it was meant to be offensive. He did cross the line. And he needs to acknowledge that.

ITA Instead he seemed to insult people that didn’t “get” his performance or were offended. Instead of whining that women aren’t censored like he was, why not just say that he’s sorry that it offended some and it wasn’t his intention….. That might have gone a long way and certainly better than what he did say. I’m not a fan of his singing style however always thought he came across as a nice guy on the show so his statements disappointed me.

For me it doesn’t really matter because I wasn’t a fan or going to buy his album but I do think it could hurt him.

O wow, this is the first snippet I’ve seen of an Adam interview/ or listened to since the AMAs and he seemed different to me.

It’s the chip on his shoulder.

ABC clearly overreacted and GMA blew a perfect opportunity to shine a greater light on this so-called controversy.

I don’t agree. ABC was the one that Adam went too far with. He even said himself that he was caught up in the moment. They very easily could have been in hot water with the FCC. As a business person I understand that they couldn’t take the chance that he would do it again. Once scorned. As to CBS, they saw a chance for ratings nothing more. They did not do Adam a favor. They wanted the ratings. It was as simple as that.

ok, my LATE observations from witnessing the AMA show live:

So excited to see Adam – had to wait in various confusing lines over an hour to get in – decent seats center but in the loge (2nd tier) – sat next to 2 (presumably) young gay men who were the most excited about Janet, Whitney & GaGa – I did hear one say something about Adam early on like “I hear he performs well live” or something like that.

The best sounding performers were the ones that just stood there – Kelly sounded great. All of them who moved around didn’t sound that great. Lady GaGa was entertaining, Rihanna and JLo were weird, I thought Janet and Whitney were a little boring but it was fun to see them live.

I got nervous and anxious – every single commercial break, they would talk about Adam’s upcoming debut – more than any other upcoming singer – I was thinking how in the world could he live up to this, especially after all the stress from the Out controversy recently – I was feeling a little worried.

There were 2 stages – they would alternate between the 2 stages for each performer. Janet got the entire 2 stage set-up and 1 or 2 others I can’t remember. Even Lady GaGa only used a 1/2. But for Adam the whole HUGE 2 stage set-up.

Adam opened to great fanfare – flashing lights etc. – the stage was a little dark but I liked the staging – very interesting with like a picture frame or something. He started the opening and I thought, hmmm he sounds really good but will people be thinking “Broadway” with this?

Ha, that was short lived as he started spinning and dragging the girl, and the leash bit – I thought it was entertaining. I thought it was hard to hear him, and he seemed a little nervous – again the sound wasn’t great either. But I was very impressed by all that he was doing up there and still singing live.

I had no problem with the sexuality and it fit the song lyrics. I had out my binoculars and when I saw him stumble, my heart just sank. He recovered from that remarkably well (still holding his mic even) and many people didn’t know if that was choreographed. But I was pretty sure it was a stumble and I was very disappointed for Adam – I knew there was so much pressure and expectation on him and I felt really bad for him – nobody would like to stumble like that.

After that, he had a harder time with the vocals (at one point a back-up singer sang louder and not good) but he still managed to do his moves and even the rif at the end. He may have thrown in the kiss to take the focus off his stumble and if so, seems it was brilliant. People are talking about the kiss and “fellatio move”, not the trip (unlike JLo).

The crowd seemed stunned at the end – just “polite” clapping up in my section. I felt really sad, because I wanted so much for the audience and TV viewers to see all that is fabulous about Adam and what I loved in the AI concert. They didn’t get that Adam.

I expected the performance to be edgy and sexy (I had seen the preview of the leashes) – and I think the producers expected it too.

In a way, he was set-up for going overboard: the producers kept going on and on about how this was going to be the most talked about performance the next day, and Adam had to make sure it was. At least he did accomplish that to his credit.

I do think he went too far, and I feel bad that he lost some fans. Some of them he was going to lose sooner or later anyway, just by being true to himself and his vision. But I would rather have had it been later, after he had more success behind him.

Too much choreography, especially for Adam to do while singing in a debut performance. He wanted to come in with a bang and overshot a little. He didn’t seem happy and playful – not sure if he was trying to conform to the tone of the song, or was perhaps releasing pent up anxiety over all of the expectations and the OUT editor slam – the finger move seems to suggest the latter.

Also, fans have some culpability in this too. Fans started throwing bras and underwear, then graduated to whips, handcuffs and dildos. I didn’t mind this and thought it was fun, and so did Adam (so long as they weren’t thrown AT him). Yes, he gained a lot of fans due to his amazing and soaring vocals, but there are many fans of all ages who find him very HOT and enjoyed his more sexual AI tour performances (hence, the throwing of sexual things). So now he tries to give them more of what he thinks they want, and gets slammed. He will never please everyone, not even his own fans. But I think he is a sexual person, and will express that side of himself (along with other sides) in future. Personally, I look forward to it. And I thought the kiss was kind of hot. But most everyone I know was not impressed with some or other part of his performance.

After the show, I went to meet the other fans (40-50) who had planned a private party at a close by restaurant. 5 people were no shows, and the rest were rather quiet and subdued discussing the performance. I was gratified to hear the younger fans were not too concerned about the fallout – made me feel better.

Actually we then watched it on the big screen TV they had for us, and it seemed better to me the second time. Funny how they cut out the “fellatio” bit – after the East Coast had already seen it anyway.

I made the mistake of coming to MJ’s when I got home Monday, and I just felt incredibly sad for Adam and in mourning all day.

I feel much better today – well enough to write this. And now I feel he’ll be ok. But I really don’t like all the jokes about him and negative press.

ABC canceling his GMA performance really pisses me off – I know a LOT of people that flew great distances for that concert. I hope they will get to see or hear him somehow.

didilynn thanks so much for that. Really good to hear the scoop from the perspective of someone who saw it live.

Has anyone made the comparison of his performance on the AMA’s to Paula Abdul’s Cold Hearted Snake video/live performance? I’ve just watched both the music video and the live performance from her concert on youtube and the only true difference between that and Adam’s AMA performance is the kiss….This was in the mid/early 90′s and nobody batted an eye…but seriously search it on you tube and then re-watch Adam’s FYE AMA performance….it should make his performance a lot less controversial, at least it did for me…I apologize if this is off topic in any way, i just thought this illustrates how a mountain has been made of a molehill

I am not feeling sorry for AL, as I do think he has done a huge disservice to the gay community. I admired him for coming out, but think he has taken two major steps back for acceptance of gays. Geez’ ¦.the leather, bondage, S&M thing. What was he thinking. Or not.

Seriously? I thought he made a giant step forward for the gay community. He showed gay men can be sexual and provocative. I loved the symoblism of his coming through the door (hmm like coming out of a closet anyone???) was really a brilliant idea.