Adam Lambert On Les Miz: Great Actors Pretending to be Singers (VIDEO)

Oh my. Adam Lambert saw the new movie version of the Broadway musical, Les Mierables and was not impressed. He tweeted a few of his thoughts:

Les Mis: Visually impressive w great Emotional performances. But the score suffered massively with great actors PRETENDING to be singers. …it’s an opera. Hollywoods movie musicals treat the singing as the last priority. (Dreamgirls was good) Anne Hathaway as Fantine and Enjolras were the exceptions for me. Helena B Carter and Sasha B Cohen were great too. And I do think it was cool they were singing live- but with that cast, they should have studio recorded and sweetened the vocals. Eponine’s voice was cool too… I felt like I should ignore the vocals and focus on the emotional subtext- but the singing was so distracting at times it pulled me out. The industry will say “these actors were so brave to attempt singing this score live”but why not cast actors who could actually sound good? Sorry for being so harsh but it’s so True! I’m so glad we are all discussing this now! Look-I grew up w this musical and so my expectations are quite high. Didn’t mean to b negative. One more clarification: DO go see it for Anne Hathaways performance. It’s was breathtaking.

From what I understand, the director chose to go with live vocals because it would be more immediate. An actor can literally ACT the song, rather than merely lip sync vocals they laid down months prior. In other words, the actor has to make his decisions months before he hits the soundstage or meets the actors he’s working with.

And to be honest, if Les Miz was done as a typical musical, I’d have no interest in it. But the live vocals intrigue me. Maybe the director could have cast the movie with better singers–I can’t judge until I’ve seen the movie–but personally, I can forgo perfection if the vocals are raw, immediate and emotional.

Les Miz Long Trailer

Les Miz Featurette

Director Tom Hooper and cast members describe filming with live vocals. Hooper in particular explains why he chose to forgo the typical pre-recorded vocals.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I’d seen an interview where they mentioned that they were using “talk-singing” style, and not singing like we see in musicals or operas.  Guess Adam didn’t get or approve of what they were going for.

  • suenigma

    Oh Adam! It ain’t an opera, and it ain’t that serious. Hugh Jackman is a pretty highly regarded Broadway actor. Why burn bridges, just why?

    Besides, if they had cast singers, or more broadway actors, rather than film actors, the acting and naturalism likely would have suffered, and everyone would be complaining about that. I enjoyed it, warts and all, and I respect the Director’s choice in this case.

  • loveroftalent

    New Yorker reviewer agrees with Adam, and is a lot less kind LOL:
    http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2013/01/07/130107crci_cinema_lane?mbid=social_retweet

  • CSFan

    For me it’s not really what he says so much as how he says it. Adam can’t seem to express an opinion without coming across like a too hip for the room know-it-all. He just comes across as deliberately self-important.

    As far as the movie, I love Les Mis, both onstage and in film, so how the singing was done didn’t bother me. It’s the story that pulls me in.

  • suenigma

    New york reviewer isn’t a peer, or a potential future colleague though. It’s his/her job to critique. Couldn’t Adam have just shared his views on this with his friends and left it at that?

  • Montavilla

    Disclaimer:  I haven’t seen the film yet, either. But I will!

    I think the singing will be better for being live.  That’s not what Adam appears to be taking issue with.  His criticism is that the producers cast actors who weren’t vocally up to the task (which would only have been remedied sound-wise by using voice doubles and would have lost the immediacy of the live singing.)

    I will say that I saw a video of one complete song, and was a little disappointed by a couple of the singers.  Not all of them, but I did wonder why they didn’t use some of the very fine actor/singers who have sung those parts on stage.

  • mjsbigblog

    The movie is getting mixed reviews, but some people do love it. 

    Adam seems to think that the director decided to do live singing because he thought it was cool or he and his actors would get a pat on the back.  I don’t get the whole “great actors pretending to be singers” critique. He completely misses the point.

  • Mirandy

    I saw the movie today and I loved everything about it except for Russell Crowe’s performance.  He really butchered that role.  It was so disappointing. :(  He kind of reminded me of that one guy at church who always sings a little louder than everyone else, and he’s pretty good, but not good enough to deserve the attention.  Gosh, and it’s such a huge role in the production…so critical to get right.  I really can’t believe he was cast in the part.  The only reason I can see is that they wanted a “big” name.  The rest of the cast was very good. 

    Every production of Les Miz has its strengths and weakness in the cast.  This Javert seemed particularly bad, though.  It stood out, marring a beautiful film. 

  • suenigma

    I didn’t mind his singing, suprisingly – it somehow fit. But his acting was so subdued here. There was no passion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I’ve seen the movie and seen the musical on the Broadway stage, the touring show, and at regional theatres. Adam was right, several of the most-loved songs were not sung very well by some of the actors in the movie version. There is no way around the fact that some of the actors weren’t capable of giving the kind of vocal performances that are typical from the cast of actors who have done Les Miz on many stages over the years. I’ve heard better vocals on many of the songs from actors at regional theatres.

    Sometimes the acting was so strong, it made you forget that the vocals weren’t up to par of the usual standards of how these songs have been sung in the past. Anne Hathaway was one of the actors/singers who accomplished this. Hugh Jackman was not. Jackman did an excellent acting job, but was in no way capable of delivering the vocals on songs such as “Bring Him Home”. His vocals distracted from his acting at times. Russell Crowe was distracting in every way. Even so, I enjoyed the movie for what it was.

  • Mirandy

    No passion at all…it felt like he was just phoning it in. 

    By the way, did you all notice that Colm Wilkinson played the Bishop?  I knew that voice sounded familiar!

  • suenigma

     I noticed that. Classy touch.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The only reason I can see is that they wanted a “big” name.  The rest of the cast was very good. ”

    I love Russell Crowe and Les Miz is my favorite musical ever. I haven’t seen the movie, but I notice that there have been few positive reviews of Crowe’s performance. Historically, “big” movie stars with box office clout have always been chosen for the film version of musicals rather than stage stars (eg. Audrey Hepburn being cast in My Fair Lady instead of Julie Andrews), and the films suffer for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    ”For me it’s not really what he says so much as how he says it. Adam
    can’t seem to express an opinion without coming across like a too hip
    for the room know-it-all. He just comes across as deliberately
    self-important”.

    Dude never rose above being in the chorus in his off, off, off, off, off, off Broadway days, heh.  He just jellis!!! :)  He’s entitled to his opinion – hope when he’s doing these kind of Broadway-ish roles again the public is as kind to him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Yeah, he and Constantine Maroulis can drown their sorrows over a brewski, lol…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Adam got it. He has seen the musical performed on stage.

    The “talk singing” you referred to is exactly how it was written and how it has been done around the world on thousands of stages for the last thirty years. The movie did not come up with this “talk singing”, they simply copied the way the musical has always been performed.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I am looking forward to seeing the film just to see Anne Hathaway’s soon-to-be Oscar nominated performance.  I did think Russell Crowe was a miscast.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    To many people who have spent years around broadway level actors or even doing regional theatre, it is serious. Also, many in the theatre community consider musicals, such as Les Miz, as an opera. 

    According to Oxford American Dictionary, an opera is “a dramatic work in one or more acts set to music for singers and instrumentalists.” In other words, opera is an art form that tells a story using only music, singing, dancing, acting and no (or very little) spoken dialogue or narration.
    Les Miz fits this definition.

    BTW, they did cast Broadway actors in several of the roles. Broadway actors can act as well as sing. They just wanted to get some big names in the show to appeal to those who don’t regularly attend stage musicals

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Wicked is not off Broadway in any way. Neither is Hair.

  • Axxxel

    Adam already has fans who will praise him even if he does things the wrong way, and he has haters who will hate him even if he does things the right way… and of course there are the people in between these two extremes… So I think the same think will happen when he will eventually perform on Broadway…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    There’s a difference though, because the New Yorker reviewer has not seen the stage version of Les Miz and doesn’t like the music, so it’s not surprising that he wouldn’t like the movie.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe Adam is just pissed because of Bali’s hot temperatures !! Not much fun for a strawberry blond like him…  Joking… It is already 17.45 hours in Bali… so just a few hours left before stagetime . Have fun, Adam and his band !!… 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m a casual fan of Adam’s and have no problem with him speaking his mind. However, like anyone else, there are sometimes consequences for that, and he will need to deal with those. He’s a big boy and doesn’t need a bunch of fans to defend him.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I can understand why Adam feels like singing ability isn’t the highest priority for film actors and why he is critical of that. I have the DVD of the 10th anniversary concert of Les Miz, with outstanding actor/singers chosen from all of those who performed their roles onstage, and it’s amazing. It’s far too much to expect that comparable singers would be cast in a major film, because box office draw is far more important than outstanding singing, and stage actors simply don’t have the ability to draw.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Dude never rose above being in the chorus in his off, off, off, off,
    off, off Broadway days, heh.  He just jellis!!! :)  He’s entitled to his
    opinion – hope when he’s doing these kind of Broadway-ish roles again
    the public is as kind to him.

    I don’t think the public pays too much attention to what celebrities or reviewers have to say and will make up their own minds if they want to see a movie or not. I never pay too much attention to reviews myself. Adam is certainly entitled to his own opinion and just because he’s in the public doesn’t mean he can’t express them. If he ever does Broadway-ish roles again the public will critic him on his own merit/performance. Even in those off Broadway roles he did he was usually one of the few actors that got generally good reviews. It’s probably why he got frustrated and left a $1500 a week job to audition for Idol. I remember when Idol was over few Broadway directors were saying if Adam ever wanted to go back to it they would talk to him. Broadway World still claims him as one of their own and still writes about him.

    Adam Lambert: Before he was an American Idol- Review http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2009/04/adam-lambert-american-idol-.html

    I’m looking forward to seeing Les Miz myself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     That pretty much describes all fan behavior, lol… yep, I see Broadway-ish roles in his future, which is not a bad thing… just looks to be the natural progression of things IMO for him. Those left that still give a damn can critique his performances to a fare-thee-well… I doubt by then I’ll be one that does :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Pretty sure in a few years time he’ll come full circle back to these… or they’ll cast someone younger, with more name appeal, lol… tis the way it goes :)

  • Emmuzka

    No-one can deny that Adam is a good singer. He knows what he is talking about. And even if he wouldn’t, good for him for voicing his oppinion. 

    Some think that celebrities should never publicly say anything critical because that might raise against them, but that policy is going on way too much already. If only random oppinions allowed would be positive (and possible negativity would be left to “professionals”, i.e. reviewers), the buzz around any pop culture event would be blah as hell. 

  • Maya100

    I understand where Adam’s coming from regarding the lack of high level singing.

    It actually is very close to an opera – Singing through with no speech, or in this case, very little, plus acting, performance – that’s opera.  Many opera performers are superb actors, as are many musical theater performers. 

    Because it’s considered very near an opera, the singing has always been essential.  That’s been changed in this movie, and it’s understandable to an extent, but it’s still not really clear why a total non-singer like Crowe was cast.  I understand Adam’s point in this case.

  • Maya100

    The interpretation may be different, but every single note they’re singing (or “talk singing,” as you said), was written and performed for the stage version.

    “Talk singing” is actually called “recitative.”  It’s a form of singing used in opera (and since it’s used in Les Mis, that would support the idea that it’s more in the opera camp).  The wikipedia definition is: “also known by its Italian name “recitativo” ([ret?ita?ti?vo]), is a style of delivery (much used in operas, oratorios, and cantatas) in which a singer is allowed to adopt the rhythms of ordinary speech.”

    If you watch any of the televised versions of the stage show, you’ll see that it’s how it’s written.

  • Maya100

    To understand what Adam means about the difference in the singing, you might want to watch these two videos from the recent 25th anniversary concert.  The first is Bring Him Home, sung in the movie by Jackman.  In this video it is Alfie Boe, who played the part last year and is an opera singer with the English National Opera.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaI9BPKhExk

    .The second is Stars sung in the movie by Crowe and in the show on this video by an opera singer named Norm Lewis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVM4KEFI7yA

    Many people prefer lesser, more formal singers like in the movie.  But, there’s no question that it’s done very differently than originally written and intended

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Tony awards are the most prestigious awards out of the big four. Count me in as one who would love to see Adam do a Broadway show. You never know. Now that he is a name celebrity I can see him do a limited run like a lot of the big name actors do and get paid. No more chorus boy for him and guaranteed sold out shows. I would love to see him do a movie musical too. He can follow Carrie Underwood lead. I think his dream role is Judas from Jesus Christ Superstar.  Grammy nomination, Tony nomination, why not.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The performances from the 10th anniversary concert are so much better than those from the 25th anniversary concert.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=les+miserables+10th+anniversary+concert&oq=les+miserables+10th+anniversary+concert&gs_l=youtube.3..0l10.75280.81885.0.85957.10.4.0.6.6.0.93.314.4.4.0…0.0…1ac.1j2.hTriloghK_E

    A phenomenal cast, “dream cast” (Colm Wilkinson, Philip Quast, Lea Salonga)

  • sjames08

    I agree with a lot of the things Adam said. I didn’t mind Hugh Jackman’s singing because above anyone else in the movie, he sounded the most operatic – sometimes with his vibrato being way too much. But with Russell Crowe’s and Amanda Seyfried’s singing, I just couldn’t. These were such big roles. And sometimes, it seems like they’re just throwing sounds. Apparently, they should be forgiven because they’re too carried with the acting. But if Hugh Jackman, Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks, Aaron Tveit and that kid who played Gavroche (who is a scene stealer btw), why miscast two of the bigger roles? Seyfriend said it took 4 months for auditioning for her. I really think this was a big fight between Mackintosh (producer) and Hooper (director). The latter wanting Seyfried and Mackintosh wanting a better singer. I’m thinking they both had to compromise with the casting. 

    I just suggest that if you’re going to go see it, go see it with an open mind and pay attention to the story. Also, know that the whole movie is SUNG (with some talk-sung). 

    My favourite performances were Hugh Jackman’s church scene, Anne Hathaway’s “I Dreamed A Dream,” Samantha Bark’s “On My Own,” everything that the kid who played Gavroche was in as well as Aaron Tveit’s. Tveit is my favourite broadway actor.

    A lot of people were praising Empty Chairs and Empty Tables by Eddie Redmayne, but his performance left me cold. But good on him though, he’s soon to be a household name.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Haven’t seen the film yet, but even from the few seconds of Amanda singing in the extended trailer I could tell that her vocals were weak.

  • sjames08

    This was simply beautiful. I don’t usually like traditional opera but this should’ve been how it was in the movie. The tender moments were so strong! Especially that last note. It was just gorgeous!

    And his acting was phenomenal as well! It was beautiful on film. This proves that theatre actors can do movies, too.

  • suenigma

     He can say whatever he wants, and more power to him. Hell, I don’t disagree with everything he says. I still think it was unwise, and I hope it doesn’t come back to haunt him. Fortunately Fantasia came along, and I don’t think much heed will be paid.

  • http://twitter.com/IkeMendes Henrique Mendes

    He’s totally right! Singers always get slammed when they “pretend” to be actors. It is the oposite and I am glad someone is calling it out! I liked the movie though

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     He’d be following the alum trail blazed by Jordan, Ace, Bo, Carrie, and most notably Fantasia, Diana DeGarmo, Constantine Maroulis and Clay Aiken  – ConMan and Fantasia I think have already beaten him to the Tony noms, so if/when it happens, he’ll join an already illustrious line of alums who’ve tripped the lights fantastic on the Great White Way.

  • suenigma

    Yes, I agree – Eddie Redmayne is totally overrated in this. Amanda Seyfired is actually a fdecent singer – I have to believe that it was some kind of affectation that the director was going for?

  • Maya100

    Yes, completely.  It’s great Redmayne is making a name, but his part was written for a big voice.  

    The greatest Marius is Michael Ball – one of Britain’s greatest musical theater performers.

    Just watch this from the anniversary concert version to see what “Empty Chairs and Empty Tables” was meant to be.  On this one particular casting, I’m totally with Adam:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnjcX8skXk

  • suenigma

    “To many people who have spent years around Broadway level actors or even doing regional theatre, it is serious. Also, many in the theatre
    community consider musicals, such as Les Miz, an opera.”

    It employs an operatic structure, but most in the opera community would definitely NOT consider Les Miz, or other modern operatic musicals, “Opera”. In the same way that Adam as a Broadway trained singer is dismissive of a film adaptation of a beloved Broadway classic, the opera community would laugh at the notion that a Broadway trained singer is equivalent to a classically trained opera singer.

  • http://twitter.com/facenfield David Facenfield

    if you didn’t mean to be negative, why say tweet these comments… kinda an idiotic thing to say… sounds like sort of thing someone who is trying to get some attention says.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Fantasia was not nominated for a Tony, but she was the recipient of the Theatre World Award in 2007 for her role as Celie in “The Color Purple”.

    The Theatre World Award, first awarded for the 1945-46 season, is an American honor presented annually to actors and actresses in recognition of an outstanding New York City stage debut performance, either on Broadway or off-Broadway.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_World_AwardI believe that Fantasia was not eligible for a Tony award because she did not originate the role she played in “The Color Purple” (whereas Constantine did originate his role in “Rock of Ages”.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The greatest Marius is Michael Ball – one of Britain’s greatest musical theater performers.”

    Totally agree. He performed in the original 10th anniversary concert of Les Miz.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that using the description “great actors pretending to be singers” was overly harsh and actually not true, IMO. Clearly, the actors chosen can sing and are singers, but some just aren’t up to the standard of the kind of singers who can do full justice to the music in Les Miz.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

     Actually him and Constantine were doing theater years before those idols. They’ve been there and done it already. Your right though those Idols can sing their butts off. Broadway is lucky to have had them.

  • suenigma

    This why I wish that Adam had not taken to twitter on this matter. Sigh…

    http://www.justjared.com/2012/12/30/adam-lambert-slams-les-miserables-casts-pretend-singers/

  • YankeeFan08

    Adam is certainly entitled to his opinion as is everyone else.  I can’t agree or disagree with his comments because I haven’t seen the movie and don’t intend to but considering his musical background, training, etc., I’ll give him the benefit that he knows what he’s talking about. The thing is whether anyone agrees with him or not, people are talking, the media has picked up the “story”, etc.  It won’t be the first time nor will it be the last that Adam says something “controversial” and gets people talking.  Here’s the thing, he could have given a milquetoast critique like “it was cool man” and NO ONE would have paid any attention.  I think Adam is a pretty smart guy!

  • Axxxel

    Happy New Year to all of you.. It will be 2013 in Bali in less than 4 hours… while my place is one hour behind Bali… It was fun meeting you all on this blog in 2012 and hope we can still have lots of entertainment with each other in this blog next year !

  • YankeeFan08

    AdamLambert
    Im so thankful for my Glamberts this year! Without your
    Support, Energy and Joy, my endeavors would not have meant anything!
    2013-MORE!!! 

    Yay for “MORE”!  Can’t wait to hear what’s coming next.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    This why I wish that Adam had not taken to twitter on this matter. Sigh…

    Adam doesn’t need to be defended or protected. He has a thick skin and he’s used to the media twisting his words. All one has to do is read his tweets himself. His twitter feed has been hilarious today positive and negative. All the Broadway geeks came out of the woodwork giving him the thumbs up or down. Such the life of a celebrity. At least no one ignored him.

    I don’t get the big deal and I certainly don’t think this is major newsworthy for it to go viral all the way across the pond but it’s Adam and the media thinks he’s worth writing about. Kanye is going to be a daddy so give it a few more hours and the media will move on to the next story.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Samantha Banks performed the role of Eponine in the West End and in the 25th anniversary concert of Les Miz.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYWIVmTBECE

    She’s great and an excellent casting for the movie.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yeah, I knew that the “pretending to be singers” critique would be the media magnet for a soundbite. Hard to defend that particular critique, IMO. Oh well. Adam should be used to the media attention, both good and bad, by now. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    So are you going to Adam’s New Year’s Eve show? Is there going to be a livestream of this event?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “ETA: Oh man, this is even more unflattering. I knew his comments would get twisted by the media. One can argue that he is entitled to his opinion, one can argue that he is perhaps even right, but one can’t argue that he didn’t set himself up for this, IMOhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs…”

    It’s the Dailymail, which is known for hyperbole and lack of accuracy. I laughed at the pic of Adam they chose, one where he’s kind of snarling. lol

  • suenigma

    Ha. I know. That photo. It’s like they are trying to make him look as douchey as possible. That article has almost 100 comments already.

    Do a search on twitter and google – tons of rags are picking it up.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    It’s all Shirley Halperin fault. lol. The media was fairly low key until her THR story now the media is going nuts. I’m not mad at all she loves Adam and she knows what she was doing. ha ha.

  • HermeticallySealed

    I’m going to have to agree with him, after watching it this weekend.  I mean, I liked it, but Valjean’s songs were beyond Hugh Jackman. Russell Crowe was weezy sounding and a bit hard to hear.  Anne was the only one whose vocals I truly liked (Well, Cohen and Carter were good too, but they weren’t expected to sound pretty).

    I’d have to say most of the problems were script and director related.  The live singing wasn’t really the issue, it was people who were just bad choices.  There were so many times I found myself cringing. Songs cut to the story’s detriment, another weaker one added pointlessly, claustrophobic headshot filming; it was a bunch of small things which quickly added up.

    I know it sounds like a lot that would make it a bad film, but I thought it better than most. It’s just enough that I was disappointing.  Still, at least it wasn’t as bad as the Phantom adaptation. Ick. 

  • YankeeFan08

    Adam’s set list for tonight (including skit):

    https://twitter.com/katzolicious/status/285724269562970112/photo/1

  • Tess

    Interesting…put a 30 year old musical on screen and people think it is untouchable and the greatest thing since white bread.  Having seen it I am in the same camp I was when Phantom went to the big screen.  Why did they do that?  Musicals, especially ones where the story line is all about the singing, rarely transfer well to the screen…Dream girls, Rent, Chicago, Phantom, Les Miz, Chorus Line, Mama Mia all left their heart and soul on the stage.  These shows are not written for the intimacy of the Camera…they work because of the production and the voices and the interaction of the story and the friggin imagination of the audience, take any of that away and the show suffers.  In all the years I can only think of two shows that I have enjoyed more on film than live and those were West Side Story and South Pacific and other than Natalie Wood (who was dubbed) they relied on tried and true stage performers.

    And now, someone who has the guts to express what many of us are feeling is being villified for having an opinion and expressing it?  And people who haven’t seen the movie are saying that he doesn’t know what he is talking about.  How insane.  I, along with Adam, think that Tom Hooper really missed the mark.  These songs are timeless and were written to be sung, not to be talk-spoke and emoted to within an inch of their life.  The legacy of the writers is sorely compromised, and I feel very, very sorry for those who have never seen a professional stage production and are missing the very thing that made this musical so timeless and gorgeous.

    I hope more people speak up…just like those who are strong enough to accurately review the Hobbit and who have the gonads to say it isn’t anywhere near as good as the original Ring series.  Les Miz cast good actors who could sing, but I, too, wish they would have cast great singers who could act.  Big, big, diff in my opinion.

  • arkboy

    The world can rest easy now, Adam Lambert has provided an opinion.

  • Karen C

    I’m lol that Adam can say something on his twitter and it becomes a worldwide story. Shows that he has a level of celebrity status.

    And I do think he has a right to say what he wants. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but it does sound like he has a point.

  • jpfan2

     Nothing wrong with having an opinion but people in the biz don’t usually criticize other folks in the biz. It’s called buring your bridges. I guess only fans of Hugh Jackman will really care in the end anyway.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    ACE YOUNG
    ?@IAMACEYOUNG

    @shoshannastone Hello Sho. Can you ask Adam to follow me so I may direct message him. I know him, and he knows me.. I promise

    ACE YOUNG
    ?@IAMACEYOUNG

    @adamlambert Dude, follow me back so I can direct message you. :-) Good. Adam started following Ace Young.  I am so curious to know why he’s been wanting so badly to reach Adam. Maybe he wants to invite him to his wedding.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Iono, I constantly see people in “the biz” critiquing others.  Seems to be about as normal as average people doing it.

  • MellyPer1692

    Adams never been shy about expressing his thoughts, either positive or negative and I’m glad for that tbh. He praises artists, films, etc all the time as we all do. He also shares his reviews with his twitter followers, he’s a big boy he can handle it lol.

    I saw the movie this weekend and I agree with him. For me, Russell Crowe was totally miscast and his singing just sucked. I don’t think they have to be First Class singers, but when you’re watching a film and the scene makes you think about how awful they’re singing rather than the film moment, it does lessen the experience.

  • mmb

    Adam is a big boy…no doubt he knew he would get backlash for what he said, but he felt like saying it anyway.  It is his twitter, those who follow him do it by choice.  He is entitled to his opinion.  The movie has been getting mixed reviews — some critics adore it, some critics didn’t at all…Indeed, some of the reviews have said pretty similar things to what Adam is saying so its not like his opinion is far out there/beyond the norm.  Take a look at some broadway fanboards, etc.  You will see a lot of the same thing Adam is saying.  LOL, its not like his little twitter review is going to effect the movie’s box office or awards prospects one iota.  I’ve seen the show on Bway several times, and saw the movie.  I liked the show more than the movie, but really enjoyed the movie.  I thought Russell’s problemmatic vocals were distracting, mostly bc I have seen others sing it so much better.  Anne was amazing.  Liked Hugh a lot and thought he sang most of it well, although a few parts were really beyond him.  Have read a bunch of reviews and agree with parts of some and parts of others; agree with much of what Adam said, but not all.  Its all a matter of perspective.

  • Kitwana

    I wonder what motivated Adam to express this opinion about Les Miz? I would not be surprised if he “clarifies” it shortly. Seems to me that for a guy whose best chance at starting a Hollywood movie career is probably through movie musicals, it is not a smart move to attack how such movies are made. The makers of these kinds of musicals and the actors who starred in them (including Hathaway and Jackman) will not be adding Adam to their wishlist of actors they want to work with. On the other hand, the comments may get him some free press in the US that he can use it to promote his next project. Too bad the Kanye and Kim baby news came out at the same time.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Nothing wrong with having an opinion but people in the biz don’t usually criticize other folks in the biz.

    You should have seen all the tweets from the broadway/musical actors when Carrie announced she was doing Sound of Music. There was a lot of Wat! So not true that people in the biz don’t criticize each other. My guess is there will be a lot of opinions when it comes out since she’s not known for her acting skills.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Les Miz cast good actors who could sing, but I, too, wish they would have cast great singers who could act.  Big, big, diff in my opinion.”

    I agree, but from a historical perspective, there’s no way that anyone is going to risk a major film production on great singers who don’t have box office clout. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

     Anne Hathaway and Adam Lambert are friends before his Idol days. Note he didn’t criticize her. lol

  • jpfan2

    I constantly see people in “the biz” critiquing others

    You see people criticizing other people’s constantly? Really, give me a couple of recent examples. I’m not talking about liking or disliking a movie. I mean criticizing the performers in the film. In the music biz there are feuds between artists (usually rappers) but it’s rare in the movie biz.

  • Tess

    People think that actors are so thin skinned that they judge other actors solely whether said actor liked them in a role.  Geesh.  Good grief, Hugh Jackman starred in Australia and he and Nicholle Kidman are lucky that anyone hired them ever again after that debaucle.  Besides, Actors rarely pick their cast.  They just feel priviledged to be working with anyone…no one in Hollywood has the kind of clout anymore when they can pick and choose.

  • Kitwana

    For the Broadway community to be holding its nose up to Hollywood musicals is ridiculous. Broadway has for years resorted to stunt casting, including in musicals, and usually of hot Hollywood actors. Remember Nick Jonas. Yes he starred on Broadway as a kid but as an adult, his singing sucks! Yet he somehow managed to get a starring role in How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying. And if “singing” is so important, why is it that Nick Jonas and John Stamos have had more starring roles on Broadway than Adam? Give me a break!

  • HermeticallySealed

     Too be honest, Anne was really one of the few actors in the movie that made it worth seeing.  I was pleasantly surprised by her as I was expecting less. I didn’t “hate” Hugh, I just think some of the parts were not well done. Over emoting is necessary for stage performances, but really distracting when done in head and shoulder shots, and blown up to 55 feet. And being a movie, you can get away with very softly sung, subtle moments.  There was really no need for Bring Him Home to be shrilly shouted from the mountaintops, so to speak.

  • mmb

    I am a survivor of 2 hours of Nick Jonas in How to Succeed.  He was atrocious.  On the other hand, John Stamos has been terrific in the shows I have seen him in and his singing is Broadway caliber IMO.

  • Tess

    Oh, and by the way, Adam didn’t criticize anyone’s ACTING, he criticized their singing and more importantly he criticized Tom Hooper’s direction of said singing, in an oblique manner.  Unless we forget, Les Miz is a musical not a stage play and I thought that got forgotten in the movie….and I blame Hooper for that.  I loved what he did with the King’s Speech but I think he was the wrong choice for Les Miz.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Hell, the number of times I have seen actors and directors dissing their own movies amazes me. LoL  I don’t think a single person involved in the last Indiana Jones movie had anything positive to say. Babylon A.D. was so badly edited that both the director and Vin Diesel told people to not watch it. Ask Kevin Smith about Linda Fiorentino (or anyone else who has worked with her) sometime.

  • jpfan2

    Actors can criticize their films or other films. They don’t usually criticize the PERFORMANCES of the other actors. Ditto for theatre folks.

  • Tess

    Seen any Hollywood roasts lately, or any late night television.  Oh, and a no comment is more damning then actually saying something.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Doesn’t match up with things I have witnessed, but not really something worth fighting about.

  • Niall

    My guess is he’s inviting him to the wedding and needs his mailing address. I’m sure with a 100 + former idols its tough for them to stay current with contact info. I think Ace was doing Snerican Idol Extra during season 8 and got to know Adam then.

  • jennyl2

    I had the previlage of watching the musical in London years ago and the original cast soundtrack is my fav. I have to agree with Adam. Huge Jackman and Russel Crowe was the main and they just couldn’t do justice to Jean and Javert in terms of the singing. Ann and the girl who did Eponine was great. The best were the kids Cossete and the little boy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Since Adam is a member of The Screen Actors Guild does he get to vote on any of these things. Does it work like the Grammys. Just curious.

  • potatorocks

    I have come to understand that this is who Adam is.  I don’t like it when he does not support other Idols, or other gay people who are his peers, or other actors but I don’t have to like it.   He does not subscribe to the unwritten rules. As long as he can take it when his peers criticize him right back (which is easy to do at times) say what you want Adam.

  • mmb

    Adam didn’t single anyone out for criticism.  He did specifically praise a number of the cast members.  He praised the entire cast for great emotional performances.  He just criticized the singing without naming any names.

  • TheOther

    In as far as the Oscars?  Adam wouldn’t be a member of the AMPAS, the group who decides the Academy Awards.  Jennifer Hudson is.

  • mmb

    Adam has supported many other Idols, and gay people who are his peers, and other actors, and lots and lots of musicians.  Many times his fans are left scratching their heads as to “what?  he liked that?”  But Adam is constantly pimping and praising the work of others.  Once in a while he is critical.  So be it.  He can handle the backlash.  Its December — he is right on time for his annual “scandal” of the year.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     He ain’t above a little fameho’ing for attention I guess, lol… He had to know with all the media and industry attention focused on this movie right now taking this kind of contrarian opinion would draw attention… he know how to play the game, so let him soak up all the attention he getting… he needs it more than Les Miz does, lol

    *smacks popcorn*

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”because box office draw is far more important than outstanding singing, and stage actors simply don’t have the ability to draw.”

    & I believe this was his sentiment when he said ”Hollywoods movie musicals treat the singing as the last priority.”

  • Emmuzka

    This is yet another example of Adam’s “media worthiness” He hasn’t had a hit in USA this year, nor a nomination, but still media loves to makes news over his tweets and appearances. He doesn’t even have to try that much. That proves that he stays relevant and the soil for album number three is waiting. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     No comment :)

  • Miss Chaos

    If Adam was cast in a Broadway role, he would kill it and he knows it, so he can comment on singing in a Broadway turned movie, and it certainly would not hurt his reviews of any role he will play.  I am glad he made his opinion known, he should speak his mind if he so choses.  As we all do;)

  • loveroftalent

    I really don’t get all the brouhaha over this…Les Miz is a favourite of his, so I’m sure he was hyped up about it and felt let down…IMHO, he did not say anything wrong. He gets slammed for stating an opinion and going against the grain…This is what is wrong in this society…We are fed what we should like or dislike and we all should follow along.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Are we forgetting that this is the director who actually considered casting TAYLOR SWIFT as Cosette? Yeah, I don’t think the ability to sing well was much of a priority to him. 

    I’m going to see the movie tomorrow with my sisters, and I can tell you that one sister is a Les Miz fanatic. She is really fearful that some of the actors are going to ruin it for her with their lack of singing ability. She has certain favorite actors she has seen perform live, and no one will come close to what they did with the music and material as far as she is concerned.  Les Miz devotees can be quite particular.

    So, really, Adam is just voicing what many people have already said or will say.  The movie has been hyped to high heaven and advertised as the viewing event of the century. Frankly, I don’t mind seeing it knocked down a peg by someone who spent a lot of years making a living singing in a musical. 

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Eh, honestly, I was expecting a long discussion about Adam’s tweet 8 hours ago. And I’m right. Adam makes negative comments/headlines= BIG NEWS. But him doing a high profile gigs(MAMA/QueenBert) were being ignored. oh well…

  • sjames08

    I saw How To Succeed on broadway with Daniel Radcliffe and it was enjoyable to see him in it. But as a musical itself, I wouldn’t have watched it. There weren’t really any stand out songs/numbers that you would hum after the show. The producers merely wanted money for that one. Hence, they got three big Hollywood actors to star in it: Radcliffe, Criss, and Jonas. Radcliffe did really well though. It was fun to see him live!

    You get some producers who just want to make more money. And others are there for creative purposes. And those are the ones that lasts long.

  • girlygirltoo

    How is Adm’s opinion about a movie newsworthy? It’s his opinion. That doesn’t make it news.

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    “This is what is wrong in this society…We are fed what we should like or dislike and we all should follow along.”
    I love this statement.  Adam is no sheep and speaks his mind.  Good for him.  Frankly, I can’t stand to watch actors in musicals who can’t sing.  Does anyone remember the play “The Ten Commandments” that Adam was in where the lead character (can’t remember his name) couldn’t sing worth beans and had to talk sing.  Adam and the others sang circles around him which made him look ridiculous, imho.  This was a classic case of casting a well known actor for the lead to draw in a crowd even if he couldn’t sing.  Some may not mind it but it bugs the crap out of me and I’m glad Adam called it out.

  • loveroftalent

    Yes this is what really sucks about the whole thing…

  • loveroftalent

    I totally agree with you…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “in where the lead character (can’t remember his name) couldn’t sing worth beans and had to talk sing”

    Val Kilmer

  • Nadine_Bitch

    I know right? I’d rather be thrilled to see a new thread about his BALI concert than something that it wasn’t really news.

  • Eileen99

    I think what the director was going for with the live singing completely went over Adam’s head & he missed the point entirely.  Not only that, he comes off as a complete pompous ass, and a clueless one at that.

  • everything

    Odds are that A listers Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman even know who Adam Lambert is.

    I don’t see any reviews, positive or negative, by Lambert have any kind of relevant impact.  If so, Haley Reinhart, Pia Toscano, Josh Ledet, Jacob Lusk would have more relevant careers.    

  • nncw

    My favorite movie musical is GiGi and nobody in the cast were “great” singers. My favorite stage musical was the King and I, just before the show it was announced that Yul Brynner was having throat problems but would appear and speak the part. Well by the end of the show I was almost sobbing his performance was so remarkable. I also saw Carol Channing in Hello Dolly not much of a voice but thoroughly entertaining. Of course some musicals are about the power of the voice – Old Man River, There’s No Business Like Show Business – show stopping songs and it would be a shame if Nick Jonas tried to sing those songs LOL. Please don’t knock Nicole Kidman – another favorite musical of mine – Moulin Rouge.

  • windmills

    The “Pretending to be singers” part of Adam’s comment is what is making news because it’s insulting to several actors with strong previous singing credentials. There were better ways for him to make his point.

    I saw Les Mis on opening day and though it’s obvious singing ability wasn’t the #1 priority in the casting decisions IMO Adam’s way off base characterizing Les Mis as a movie musical where singing ability was treated as the last priority. I had a lot of reservations about a lot of the casting, especially Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe. I was satisfied and sometimes really impressed with HJ, the only time I really wanted more from his voice was Bring Him Home. Russell Crowe was the guy I thought would be most miscast vocally and he was. Stars was a miss because of that but, he legitimized his casting for most of the rest of the movie IMO.

    I was most impressed by Eddie Redmayne who took the role of a character who in the wrong hands can seem a little flaky and who also has what some consider the most boring storyline in the musical (his love story with Cosette) and gave it believability and dimension. Empty Chairs & Empty Tables was a movie highlight. Anne Hathaway and Aaron Tveit were excellent, Samantha Barks was a little underutilized but I enjoyed her. I didn’t love Amanda Seyfried’s highest notes but other than that, she sang well and was well cast in a very limited role. Daniel Huttlestone as Gavroche was fantastic and adorable.

    I squeeeeed when I saw the Bishop of Digne. LOVE Colm Wilkinson.

    I’ve been jamming to the original Broadway recording of Les Mis all week since watching the movie. I love that and always will but, I think the movie cast of Les Mis brought some great interpretive singing to the table that all things considered really enhanced the movie presentation.

    ZsusK: Are we forgetting that this is the director who actually considered
    casting TAYLOR SWIFT as Cosette? Yeah, I don’t think the ability to sing
    well was much of a priority to him.

    But she wasn’t cast, which probably means singing ability was a priority in the final decision. Though, her lack of acting ability probably hurt too.

  • loveroftalent

    Sorry I did not see anything pompous at all in his comments…I guess fans and non fans of Adam’s will always see things differently.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Kathy Katz ?@katzolicious

    #AdamLambertBali 1 http://pic.twitter.com/iymCp9tV

    God, he just looks so damn gorgeous!

  • justmefornow

    lol. You are probably right. 
    But I must admit, these threads today; Adam and Fantasia’s latest foot in mouth comments, or the news of another useless Kardashian on the way, are very amusing and trash TV worthy. A nice TMZ-like ending to 2012, lol.

    On a more positive year-end note, Happy 1st year anniversary to James and Heidi Durbin <3, and Happy New Year to everyone!

  • HermeticallySealed

     Going to have to disagree completely. I understood myself what the director was going for, and honestly it isn’t relevant. Bad singing is bad and it needn’t have been.  Anne pulled it off well. Samantha Barks was great, as were others. Yet, Crowe plods through the movie in a manner which I honestly feel Javair kills himself from pure boredom.  There was no passion from any of his parts, and live singing had nothing to do with that. Being a dull singer did.

    I like Hugh, and I think he can sing, but Valjean’s big songs were not really within his range. Bring Him Home was a shouty mess, where subtle and soft would have been more appropriate to the scene.  Again, live singing doesn’t prevent that, the actor (or quite possibly, the director) did.

    Anne isn’t my favorite Fantine, but she pulled off Dreamed a Dream well.  It was a bit overwrought, yes, but it fit. She sang well while live singing, and that is how it should have been for the others. The fact is, just because the director was aiming for something, doesn’t mean the target got hit.

  • seashellz51

    Thank god Adam is not a shy, quiet, milquetoast! His tweets were very respectful. He knows how to use his twitter and I applaud him for that. As he said he grew up with that musical and had quite high expectations. He has enough experience to know what he was disappointed with and why. As usual he sandwiches his critiques with praise. And there is quite a bit of press that corroborates the same thing Adam is saying. Plus, Adam is smart and he knows the backlash from expressing these opinions. I think most people respect someone who is honest so I dont for one minute think Adam burnt any bridges. If anything, he gained respect for his honesty. And YAY for all of the press he is getting. No reason for Adam to be jealous of anything. If he wanted to be doing Broadway right now, Im fairly certain he would be. I cant wait to see the movie now!

  • loveroftalent

    haha…Glad you are enjoying it…I seem to remember a certain someone that said they write songs about whores.  IMHO….much worst..

  • lovetheusa1776

    Lambert expresses an opinion – screaming headlines explode on blogs.

    That New Yorker review, though, was priceless – a classic of the genre.
    Now I’m actually interested in seeing it.

  • loveroftalent

    Very Yummy….I would say he is pretty much perfect…

  • HermeticallySealed

    I was most impressed by Eddie Redmayne who took a character who in the wrong  hands can seem a little flaky and who also has what some consider the
    most boring storyline in the musical (his love story with Cosette) and
    gave it believability and dimension. Empty Chairs & Empty Tables was
    a movie highlight. Anne Hathaway and Aaron Tveit were excellent,
    Samantha Barks was a little underutilized but I enjoyed her. I didn’t
    love Amanda Seyfried’s highest notes but other than that, she sang well
    and was well cast in a very limited role. Daniel Huttlestone as Gavroche
    was fantastic and adorable.

    I squeeeeed when I saw the Bishop of Digne. LOVE Colm Wilkinson.

    Have to admit, I was really happy to see Colm make an appearance.  Love his voice.  Eddie . .  . I am still processing him as Marius.  On one hand I liked him in some places (Little Fall of Rain, Empty Chairs), but his vibrato tended to get out of hand in places, especially when singing with Seyfried (who’s high notes and vibrato just made my skin itch).  Honestly, I kind of wish Tveit had played Marius.  I really enjoyed his performace.

  • girlygirltoo

    I haven’t seen Les Miz — not the stage musical nor the movie, so I can’t comment on anyone’s singing ability or lack thereof in this particular instance. But I love movie musicals as a genre — especially the ones from the 1930′s and 1940′s. Honestly, great singing ability has never been the most important part of those movies — I doubt too many people think Gene Kelly or Fred Astaire or Ginger Rogers were great technical singers, for example. Judy Garland was and Barbra Streisand is, but they are exceptions. Even with movies that were adapted from stage musicals, acting has probably been considered more important than true singing ability. As long as no one cast in an important role is a horrible singer, it never seems to have been a big deal. For instance, I really enjoyed the movie version of “Chicago,” but I would say that the acting was stronger across the board than the singing.

    I know Les Miz may be held to a higher standard because it is such a beloved stage musical and is basically totally dependent on the singing to express the emotion and plot, but I would think that only the true diehard Les Miz groupies are going to dissect each cast members’ singing ability with a real critical eye. I would think that the people who go to see the movie without being a hardcore fan of the stage production probably wouldn’t be as critical.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    With the experience Adam has in both stage and singing, I can see where his opinion is valid. I haven’t seen the movie yet either though. I’m a stickler for good vocals, too. I still cringe when I remember Madonna singing Evita. lol

  • Nadine_Bitch

    They gave a positive review? Link please? Want to read their critique.

  • bridgette12

    Adam just gave his opinion, some may like it and others won’t. He’s a grown man who has the ablity to articulate what he thinks and defend himself when necessary. He doesn’t have a spokesman or relative that goes behind him clarifying what he said or making excuses for him. Adam has been around long enough to know that anything he say will draw both praise and criticism. He’s  always been open and honest with his thoughts, why should he change now.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    my goodness!!!

    BoyFSembiring®@boysembiring

    http://pics.lockerz.com/s/273500471 

  • justmefornow

    LOL. There have been some GREAT songs about whores.
    Here’s one of my favorites ones……

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ

  • Liteasy

    Maybe Adam thinks that his mouthing off will sell more albums for him!

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I’m always a little hesitant to dive-in on anything concerning Adam, but as usual I’m giving a big thumbs up to windmill’s post who IMO is spot on.  The only reason Adam’s comments made headlines is because of the “actors pretending to be singers” part.  His opinion.  His deal.  His business.  But it does come off as rather insulting towards some folks who are considered singers by many and do have some stage cred.  No, Adam didn’t name names but he pretty much is aiming it at almost everyone since he singled out the people he thinks did a good job.   For instance, I understand that Hugh Jackman’s voice and range isn’t a natural fit for the Jean Valjean part, but to insinuate he is merely an actor pretending to be a singer is a bit much (and kind of snobby IMO).  Hugh has spent enough time singing and dancing on the Broadway stage at this point to kind of negate that image, even if you think he was wrong for this part, which is debatable.

    Like I said, Adam’s opinion, his deal.  He’s certainly entitled to it.  But Adam is smart enough and media saavy enough to know what sort of comments will get picked up by the media and he can’t be surprised about this one.  I’m not necessarily saying he did it on purpose, or that he needs to be milquetoast, but if he’s going to open his mouth (or rather hit his computer keys), then he better expect a reaction.

  • Tess

    And all the die-hard Phantom fans didn’t care less that the movie was such a stinker.  I think there will be some severe back lash as the weeks progress.  For starters, with all the hype and the nominations and the anticipation  Les Miz was only number 3 for the week and I bet it inches downwards as the weeks progress as opposed to Moulin Rouge which gained with each passing week.

    And I bet the “groupies” dissect every word and gesture and lots of people are going to come up wanting.  Bet the movie soundtrack does poorly and that the dvd isn’t among the best sellers for the year even amongst the die-hard fans.

    Just because someone tells us that the movie is great, wonderful, best-ever I bet that a lot of discerning peeps aren’t going to be swayed by all the hyperbole.  They weren’t with Phantom, were they?

  • mjsbigblog

    Like I said, Adam’s opinion, his deal.  He’s certainly entitled to it. 
    But Adam is smart enough and media saavy enough to know what sort of
    comments will get picked up by the media and he can’t be surprised about
    this one.

    DING. I think Adam was feeling a little lonely over there in Bali. lol.

  • lovetheusa1776
  • lovetheusa1776

     Don’t think so – Sauli’s there.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Oh my god, VH1 Diva is on my TV right now!!!! 

    Thank you MTV Arabia!!!

  • mjsbigblog

    Not lonely for THAT kind of attention. lol.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol. He comes across as having an opinion, one that is shared by many critics and many in the musical theater world. I’m glad he expresses himself, lol, it’s one of the reasons I’m a fan.

    I thought Hugh Jackman did well on some songs and not so well on others. Russell Crowe sucked in both acting and singing IMO.

  • loveroftalent

    Why would he think it would get picked up by the media…He commented on performing with Queen and that didn’t get picked up…I guess only if his comments can be considered negative does the press pick it up…Oh well…It is what it is…

  • MellyPer1692

    How is it newsworthy? Ask the media outlets who picked it up. Rickey was the first idol blog to post about it and the others followed his lead, I guess. Mainstream sites picked it up too. Hoopla I guess.

  • http://twitter.com/alienlifeform2 Diablo

    DING. I think Adam was feeling a little lonely over there in Bali. lol.

    He’s got his boyfriend and a troupe of fans over there with him so it’s less loneliness and more wanting to share his honest opinion about a thing he cares about and having gained skin thick enough not to be bothered about every little media drama.

    Having seen the movie today, I’d be judging him if he just sang praises. But I’m actually surprised that media did pick up on those tweets, I would never have thought anyone but fans would care that Adam Lambert doesn’t care much for a movie.

  • Lovesyesha

    Very respectful presentation of his opinion (something Fantasia should learn to do…) but I disagree with Adam’s assessment. I found the movie to be truly remarkable especially given the limitations Les Miz has when turning it into a film. Fantine, Enjorlas, Eponine, and Marius gave truly remarkable performances. The Thenardiers were great as well, and it was impressive how well Hugh Jackman did given the sheer amount that was required of his role. The live singing gave a raw, pure, and emotional quality to the film and actually forced the actors to ACT, something you don’t see too often in high budget films today. I loved it and would recommend it to anyone.

  • MellyPer1692

    It’s a shame then that media sites concentrate on the negative lol. Don’t think he was lonely for attention, if you follow him on twitter he comments on music, television, music videos, movies, books etc. all the time. Some negative, some positive. This just got picked up by a spamming gossip site early.

  • lovetheusa1776

     Seems to be that way, doesn’t it.

  • lovetheusa1776

    Very striking – a vision in blue – thanks.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Nah, he’s got Sauli with him. Fortunately for him his partner doesn’t snatch his twitter from him and cleans up his mess.lol.

    This is why I love the Adam Lambert, James Durbin, Clay Aiken and Kelly Clarkson threads. They got to be the least politically correct Idols and God bless them for entertaining me.

  • http://twitter.com/alienlifeform2 Diablo

    This is why I love the Adam Lambert, James Durbin, Clay Aiken and Kelly Clarkson threads. They got to be the least politically correct Idols and God bless them for entertaining me.

    You forget Fantasia… but then she’s not so much non-pc as dumb. (Back to Fantasia thread.)

  • onslow2

    It is sad indeed that only the negatives seem to be newsworthy. Especially considering so many of his interviewers since the summer knew he had fronted Queen for instance. Some of them had heard some rumours, but didn’t know it had already happened. And good point Loveroftalent, about him tweeting about that and nobody reporting on it. 

  • mjsbigblog

    Commenting on Queen? Other than Queen fans, nobody cares about them. Not exactly a hot item at the moment.

    On the other hand, Les Miz is a brand new movie with a ton of buzz. Any celebrity who criticized it on twitter would have been picked up by the media. Adam is smart enough to know that.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Yet when he was praising some Artists or doing big time gigs no one(including Idol blogs) would give attention.

    I’m so sad that Adam’s words were being dissected or being accused of having motivations for stating an opinions.

    oh well…. again:(

  • lovetheusa1776

    Great pic – love the close-up with the top hat, too. 

  • loveroftalent

    Great post…Anyone that follows Adam know he comments on lots of different things…I think he just finished watching it, and feeling abit disappointed commented on it…Something we do all the time…Big deal..

    Of course Ricky would be the first to blog about it…He has been very disgusting to Adam..Some of the pictures he has posted and comments he has made, show what a nasty little man he is…

  • journey1

    I personally feel that singers should not critique other singers.  That doesn’t mean they need to say they are great if they feel otherwise, but there is “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”.   Even if others agree, it only makes the criticizer look like they are rather stuck on themselves.  I think Adam got in some hot water before criticizing another singer.  I say leave that to the critiics who get paid for critiquing.  I personally wouldn’t want to be on the bad side of Huge Jackman.  He is a highly respected actor both on stage and screen, and even though his name wasn’t mentioned it sort of was by its omission.  Huge would probably never retaliate, but this could come back to bite Adam professionally.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, I get what they’re saying. The minute I read his tweets I knew he’d get a separate post for them here. Other events like China, MAMA performance, etc didn’t. It’s the game.

  • mmb

    having just finished a whole round of promo for Divas, and having done a bunch of interviews, and commercials in Bali, I doubt that Adam specifically set out to tweet something that would get him a new round of negative media coverage.  But like I said, he is a big boy and knows he will get slammed for pretty much anything he says or does (a headline of “Adam Lambert saves a puppy” will garner nasty comments all over the internet and idol blogs).  Adam tweets his opinion about music/tv/books/videos/movies etc. pretty much constantly.  He may be a bit surprised that this particular “review” got picked up by the media

  • jan

    I get what you are saying – not lonely for human companionship – lonely for media attention in the US while he is elsewhere. Adam is very adept at keeping his name in the news. Too bad Kim Kardashian/Kanye West picked today to come out with baby news as that tops a movie review in the gossip rags.

  • mjsbigblog

    Yet when he was praising some Artists or doing big time gigs no one(including Idol blogs) would give attention.

    Are you going to pay my mortgage? I have to post what gets clicks. Sorry for doing what’s best for my business. lol.

    Outrage and controversy get hits. Not only from naysayers, but fans too. It’s human nature. I’m not going to apologize for what I post. Sorry. BUT NOT SORRY.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Nah, Adam has his boyfriend and several good friends with him on this trip. He simply feels passionate about musical theatre and has opinions about how Les Mis translated from the stage to the big screen. 

    My facebook and twitter feed has been filled with the same type of comments from musical theatre people since the movie came out on Christmas Eve.

     

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Also because criticism and negative remarks from a celeb directed towards other celebs will always get more attention than positive remarks.  That is just the way media works these days, particularly tabloid media.  You can debate the state of media in today’s society and all that, but that isn’t entirely the issue here.  My main point is just that Adam isn’t stupid and he likely knew that making a couple of thinly veiled comments about a hot button movie seemingly aimed at a bunch of A-list celebs would likely get some media attention.  He’s not a rube to the industry, nor to the workings of tabloid media.   I think to pretend otherwise kind of sells the guy short in terms of intelligence.

  • loveroftalent

    No  I still don’t get it.  I don’t think he was lonely for media attention at all and I don’t know why anyone would think  that all…

    I actually think Adam will be surprised that it got picked up all…When he tweets, it feels to me like he is having a conversation with fans and nothing more…

  • danperez90

    Since when he is a recognized film critic? The only thing that he can be used as an example is that debuting at #1 doesnt guarantee a big seller album….too bad, he just want some attention when inside he is dying to be on that film

  • Axxxel

    I do tend to agree with MJ about Adam feeling lonely despite having his boyfriend and his Glamily with him for some reasons:

    1. As a perfectionist, I think he will be very concerned with soundissues. and imagine the concert is in a ballroom which is not the ideal place for a popconcert
    .
    2. The hotel is very very new , Opened in December 2012. I guess they employ experienced people, but they might not have that much experience in THAT particular hotel.

    3. Bali is great but the temperatures can be very hot… As I said in a previous posting, not always ideal for a strawberry blond like Adam.

     If I were Adam, I would only be able to relax after the skit or even only at the “encore”…

  • Axxxel

    Enjoy !!

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”Nah, he’s got Sauli with him. Fortunately for him his partner doesn’t snatch his twitter from him and cleans up his mess.lol”

    That makes me think if their were some Idol’s partners doing like this before?

  • loveroftalent

    hahahah.. You are funny…So passionate….

  • MellyPer1692

    There’s not much to get. Certain people have certain feelings towards Adam. For some, his motivations are always suspect. It is what it is. Like I said earlier, I hope he never changes, he’s too entertaining for me.

  • Axxxel

    don’t worry, as he has mentioned in his “Trevor Project” video, he already received a lot of negative comments and he also mentioned in the video how he deals with it…

  • lovetheusa1776

    Agree – you should not apologize for what you post, but, if criticism results, that’s also part of the game.

  • http://twitter.com/alienlifeform2 Diablo

    Huge would probably never retaliate, but this could come back to bite Adam professionally.

    Lol, I think this exaggerates the influence of those tweets somewhat. It’s not like the producers of Les Miz, or actors for that matter, actually care. Unless they do but that would give Adam pop culture influence I would have never suspected him of.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The “Pretending to be singers” part of Adam’s comment is what is making
    news because it’s insulting to several actors with strong previous
    singing credentials. There were better and more accurate ways for him to
    make his point.”

    Exactly. The moment I read that part, I knew that this would get attention.

  • Pippygirl

    I’m torn between thinking Adam is some kind of media genius who knows exactly what to do to get media attention, and thinking he just says what is on his mind and doesn’t think about or care what people think. Either way he’s entitled to his opinion and it doesn’t bother me when he expresses it. He is giving his opinion on people who have achieved a level of success such that I doubt they care what Adam Lambert thinks of them.

  • bridgette12

    I would probably agree with the part where you say he is dying to be in that film, if it was Hair.

  • onslow2

    I suppose you’re right. Good thing I don’t have a blog!

  • MellyPer1692

    He’s not a recognized film critic, nor does he pretend to be. The media apparently think his comments are newsworthy though. He gave his opinion on the movie, not sure what his album sales have to do with it, lol. If we’re only supposed to care about those with high album sales, we would be ignoring most of the idols not named Carrie, Kelly and Daughtry.

  • jan

    Here is my guess. Adam is going to be in Asia doing concerts for a few months. It would be natural for him to be off of the media radar in the US. He will do something again to get his name in the news – maybe it will be actual news and an actual announcement of some kind. If nothing like that is imminent – then he will do something outrageous or gossip-worthy. It’s just the name of the game if you like celeb status.

  • MellyPer1692

    I agree that you should post what you want MJ and what gets you clicks. However, I think that since you entered the discussion on his motivation, the reasons negative gets posted is part of the discussion.

  • journey1

     I don’t think the actors or producers actually care about Adam’s opinion, but the media picked up on it, and most of those people are going to hear about it and it will leave a bad taste in their mouth concerning Adam.  It certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.

  • http://twitter.com/alienlifeform2 Diablo

    If nothing like that is imminent – then he will do something outrageous or gossip-worthy.

    Ehh, what is this world coming to when THIS is outrageous and gossip worthy.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Well, he’s not. He’s just a guy who saw a movie with his boyfriend and wanted to yack about it on twitter with his twitter followers.  I have no idea why the media picked up on it. Adam often talks about music and movies and TV shows, just like… gosh! any other person on Twitter. I’ve never thought twice about what he’s tweeted since it’s his opinion, after all. But I guess he needs to be careful as he is apparently much more famous than I thought if the media really cares that much about his opinion of this film.  

  • loveroftalent

    Do you know Adam personally to be so sure on what does…Adam performing with Queen was actual news and actual announcement but never received any media in the states…

  • lovetheusa1776

    “If I were Adam” . . . .   Well, the strawberry blond went jet skiing.

  • Axxxel

    No, I decided not to go… At first because the hotel where Adam performed wanted a compulsary booking of 5 days if we want to stay there.  And I did not really want to book in another hotel, 10 minutes away… Then all of a sudden, (but I realized it very late) there was a promo for only 2 night plus one night for free… in the hotel where Adam performed…  :-(

    Hope to get tickets for the Gandaria City (Jakarta) concert though in March 2013 which is practically in my backyard (compared to the Bali concert).

  • loveroftalent

    The bad taste was most likely already there…

  • mjsbigblog

    That’s not true at all. Plenty of outlets picked up the Queen concerts, including all the big entertainment sites.

    Again, Queen is a legacy band, they have their fans, but they aren’t exactly at the tip of pop culture at the moment. On the other hand, Les Mis is a new movie with a ton of buzz. The comparison is not apt.

  • jan

    Adam performing with Queen was news on some entertainment sites and blogs. Other than that it is not news – just like it is not news that Arnel Pineda now performs as the lead singer of Journey instead of Steve Perry.

  • seashellz51

     Personally, I hope Adam stays honest and open with his opinions and critiques. Its only a movie for god’s sake. LMAO…  Its like omggg.. Adam Lambert critiqued a musical!! Stop the presses! LOL.. I mean he did do musical theatre for a long period of time which more than qualifies him to give an informed opinion on one. Those who dont like Adam will never be able to accept him or his opinions no matter what. And that is very obvious.

  • http://twitter.com/alienlifeform2 Diablo

     I don’t think the actors or producers actually care about Adam’s opinion, but the media picked up on it, and most of those people are going to hear about it and it will leave a bad taste in their mouth concerning Adam.  It certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.

    I’m not even old but this made me so old. I feel like I must have seen everything and Adam saying some actors can’t sing didn’t even make me raise an eyebrow. And since I consider myself a representative of the average media consumer, I kinda think that it will barely raise people’s eyebrows too. There really is big career-damaging drama (Kristin Stewart was robbed) and then there’s… this. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “That makes me think if their were some Idol’s partners doing like this before?”
    Yeah, Heidi Durbin rescued James from a jam on twitter a while ago. lol

  • mmb

    The Queen gigs were noted by virtually every entertainment site.  I’m not sure what more coverage fans wanted???  The shows were not held in the US.  They received press coverage, reviews etc. in the UK, Russia, Ukraine, Poland — the countries where the shows occurred.  The US media doesn’t cover Gaga/Madonna/Rihanna/Britney/Bieber/Queen/Journey/Rolling Stones etc. shows in foreign countries, unless there is something particularly newsworthy (like vomiting, or protesting, or something.)

  • Axxxel

    Wasn’t Ace Young one of the “behind the scenes” interviewers of the Idol finalists in Adam Lambert’s season ?
     

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Yeah, Adam is entitled to his opinion.  But this one has a whiff of sour grapes to it.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he was briefly considered for a role (and obviously didn’t get it).  Maybe he went to check out his “competition” and was ticked off.

  • bridgette12

    I’m surprised at this reaction, Adam gave his opinion about a movie, which he has given numerous times over the years and people haven’t gotten their panties in a wad over before. He wasn’t making it personal by calling Russell an out of control, phone throwing nut case who’s wife is divorcing him. In fact, he didn’t say a word about him or Hugh. 

  • loveroftalent

    Seriously…Why you think this….Why couldn’t it simply be that he went to see one of his favourites which he has stated before and felt let down…Why is it  when it comes to Adam does it always have to be a hidden agenda…

  • bridgette12

    I’m pretty sure if Adam went up for a role on a  movie, we would have heard about it. If it is newsworthy that Adam criticized a movie, it would be newsworthy that he tried out for a movie and that would have been reported also.  

  • loveroftalent

    Exactly…I don’t understand it either….You would think he committed a crime…Adam on twitter was having a conversation with his fans.  His own fans disagree with him on things and he is fine with it…It’s the non fans of Adams that is pushing this to the limit…They will never ever even try to see what Adam is trying to say…

  • washpd

    He also thought Liz & Dick was great, and that Lindsay Lohan did a great job portraying Elizabeth Taylor. Just a thought.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”I have to post what gets clicks.”

    oh trust me, I understand that. No need to apologize too, I just thought some positive controversies/gigs wouldn’t hurt if gets reported. But of course, you’ll do what’s good for your blog. And no, I’m poor and don’t have money to pay your mortgage or whatever that is.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”it would be newsworthy that he tried out for a movie and that would have been reported also. ”

    I agree. Didn’t Kris Allen tried for The Rock of Ages and we heard about it? I think if Adam was being considered/auditioned we have heard about it ages ago.

    I remember last July when he was in London, he was being accused of planting the news about being a judge on Idol. My point is, if Adam thought giving critique to a new movie would move cds why wait this long or wait to be in other country? He could just simply trash someone/something months ago when his cd was still fresh in people’s mind.

  • loveroftalent

    And this is the reason our society is in the shape it is…Everyone is doing it…Blogging negativity brings lots of hits…Hopefully things change in the future and bloggers start focussing on the positive things that happen…

  • Sara M

    I don’t like Adam but he is right.

  • journey1

    I don’t think the problem is that Adam was critiquing a movie; it was that he was critiquing other singers.  Most celebs stay away from saying negative things about people who are in their own field.  Had he just said, “I liked the stage version better.”  or something more generic about the music, it wouldn’t have come off so arrogant.  If he thought he was just having a little chat with his fans on twitter and nothing was going to come of it, he is very naive.  I don’t think it is a horrible that he sniped about the singers in the movie.  It just wasn’t something that someone who has respect for others should say in public.

  • jobeob987

    Eh, Adam doesn’t have much of a filter and he says what he thinks.  I don’t believe he’s seeking attention or trying to create drama because he has been dropped by his label as another site suggested.  This is just Adam’s opinion and while I personally feel he shouldn’t have “gone there,” I don’t disagree with him.  I just think it was better left unsaid.  I was so excited to see this movie the day it opened until I watched the trailers and I was really disappointed.  After all, this is the best musical ever with the most beautiful score, imo, and the actors in this movie don’t do it justice (um, Russell Crowe).  I also heard a movie critic call it “ghastly” which didn’t exactly inspire me to rush to the theater.  I will see the movie eventually because I love the musical, but now I have serious reservations.

  • loveroftalent

    And again, it was just his opinion…No big deal…

  • mjsbigblog

    Blame it on the bloggers? How about blaming it on the folks who drive the hits? After all…you’re here, right?

  • loveroftalent

    hahah…Touche…but I do like to read positive blogs as well….

  • iani

    I think that at this point on his career Adam can say and has the courage, bold enough to openly express his opinion, he has already established his image, a name based on his good voice, he’s well known in the Hollywood circle and  maybe has a great support from high level profiles, thinking of that Spielberg-gig Adam was part of to sing at, as an example.
    I haven’t seen the movie but from what I know, Phantom of the Opera movie, Mamma Mia, were not really suffering on box offices because of the “actors pretending to be singers”  But the score suffered massively with great actors PRETENDING to be
    singers. …it’s an opera. Hollywoods movie musicals treat the
    singing as
    the last priority. (Dreamgirls was good)
    It is an adaptation of the opera, the focus is(from what I know) on the acting skills and emotions, the vulnerability comes from the actors personal abilities to sing or lack of it and it is what I personally expect from. Good voices had to be on Dreamgirls a movie about a Broadway musical trio, not the case for LM in MO, the Oscar has to be given to them on acting skills and emotions not on their vocal chops, just a thought. A Happy, good New Year to everyone!

  • tripp_ncwy

    ABCNEWS picked up the story;

    Adam Lambert Criticizes ‘Les Mis’ for ‘Pretend Singers’

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/12/adam-lambert-criticizes-les-mis-for-pretend-singers/

  • loveroftalent

    I really don’t get where he came across as arrogant…and besides I happen to love people that says what is on their minds and not having it written for them or before commenting making sure that are not going to upset anyone.  In all honesty I am the most timid person going and try to be nice to everyone and at work go out of way to be helpful, but what always happens is that I get overlooked and overworked because I don’t speak up.  I really admire people that do…

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    HaHa!  You are so right MJ.  I don’t spend much time here anymore and rarely post but today I’ve been here almost non-stop because of the posts on Adam, Kim, and Fantasia which are all negative threads.  It is human nature at it’s best. lol

  • loveroftalent

    unbelievable…..

  • journey1

     I so agree with you even though I am here  giving hits on this subject.  If we ignored the negative and gave lots of hits to the positive things people do, we would be the ones who turn this around.  My favorite snowflake is probably the most positive person in the business, but many people think he is boring.  He gets very few “hits”, because there is no controversy going on.  I guess I for one am going to quit giving hits to negativity.  Thanks for giving us all kinds of subjects to comment on in your blog.  I appreciate it.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Gotta disagree with you there.  I know fans THINK they know everything, but we really don’t.  This kind of info only comes out if they or their people WANT it to get out.  I have no doubt there is a whole lot of stuff that Adam has auditioned for or considered that we don’t know about.

  • lovetheusa1776

     Don’t think so.

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    There are so many homophobic comments on all these articles.  It makes me so sad that there are so many haters out there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    US magazine has it too:

    Adam Lambert Slams Les Miserables Cast: They’re “Great Actors Pretending to Be Singers”

    http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/adam-lambert-slams-les-miserables-cast-theyre-great-actors-pretending-to-be-singers-20123112

    Also, NBC news has the story:

    Adam Lambert slams ‘Les Miserables’ stars for ‘pretending to be singers’

    http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/31/16268892-adam-lambert-slams-les-miserables-stars-for-pretending-to-be-singers

  • loveroftalent

    It’s quite sad isn’t it…They can disagree but the homophobic comments show they just don’t like Adam because he is gay…It doesn’t matter what he has to say on any matter because they will never take him seriously because they can’t get past the gay…

    I think this is why I always feel so bad for Adam…He has so many  against him just for being honest and himself…

  • Tess

    Haven’t figured out why people are calling this a negative thread.  Adam didn’t kick a cat, didn’t call anyone a derogatary name, didn’t jump all over a subset of our populace, didn’t lament the fact the people are judging him unfairly.  He critiqued a musical movie and gave his opinion.  He never once mentioned a name in a negative comment and praised those he thought did a good job.  He didn’t like the concept of the film, neither did I, and didn’t like how the singing was approached, neither did I.  In fact he encouraged people to see it and he praised both the acting and by extension the singing of several of the actors.

    This movie is not Russel Crowes finest hour, Hugh Jackman (whom I love) just doesn’t have the vocal chops or the dramatic acting prowress that I would have loved in ValJean, Redmayne was great in the role of a terribly milque toast character, and many of the others have done significantly better in other roles.  Other than Anne Hathaway I didn’t see any award caliber performances and she is only up for a supporting role, she didn’t carry the movie.

    And, when all is said and done Adam is not (right now) a broadway actor nor is he involved in movie acting.  He is a singer who grew up on the stage and has a mindset that probably differs from others.  I think its great that his comments have reached some prominance, it may get people talking about how “uniqueness” doesn’t always work.  Personally I feel sorry for the song writers who had to sit through many of their finest works being butchered and that word can be construed as kind.

  • loveroftalent

    Well VH1 is behind Adam…Thankfully someone is…

  • loveroftalent

    This is what I don’t get either…..He wasn’t mean with anyone…He loved some of them but didn’t love everyone…Big deal..

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    I called it a negative thread because it is sort of set up that way.  MJ’s comments lead me to believe that she saw it that way too.

  • lovetheusa1776

    No, it never ends – the homophobia is still alive and well.  Can’t just discuss the import of what Lambert said – have to attribute hidden motives to him as well.  As one of the kindest, most generous performers around, this sort of animus towards him is truly disheartening.

  • everything

    This has nothing to do with his sexuality. He made a comment that was insulting and unprofessional. And he should expect to take the heat for it. He has a right to his opinion, but he didn’t need to throw people under the bus. I can imagine the firestorm if the tables were turned and someone in the industry had said that Adam Lambert was no more than a chorus boy PRETENDING to be a singer.

  • suenigma

    There are a couple of homophobic comments, but the vast majority don’t seem to be. Even a couple is too many, of course.

  • Tess

    Like they haven’t.  Where have you been, that occurs all the time and was very apparent during the Queen concerts. And to whom were his comments insulting and unprofessional…I didn’t see any names attached. If people want to fill in the blanks with their own opinions on the mediocrity of some of the singing should he be blamed for that?

  • loveroftalent

    If it has nothing to do with his sexuality, then why the homophobic comments seem on all the blogs, not here mind you, but I have seem them here also..

    And again where did he through people under the bus and also when Adam when was on idol, he took his critiques like a man.  He has said in the musical theatre business, your performances are always picked apart and you learn from them.

  • loveroftalent

    I’ve seem lots on twitter…You don’t have to look far to see the homophobic comments written abput Adam…

  • jpfan2

    “I remember last July when he was in London, he was being accused of planting the news about being a judge on Idol.”

    Ha, ha. I remember some fans were losing it because they thought he had it up to the moment they announced Randy was coming back. I also remember fans saying he was “too busy” to tweet his fans about it.  But he’s in Bali and isn’t too busy to tweet about Les Miz.  I think Adam enjoys creating a little drama. Why not.

  • suenigma

     I thought you were referencing the article comments. Sorry.

    Now if that POS TMZ runs with it we’ll see some serious homophobia. Fingers crossed they ignore it.

  • everything

    And when those criticism came up, his fans defended him to no end. Of the main cast, since he did not quote any praise for Russell Crowe or Hugh Jackman and did for others, it’s pretty apparent who Lambert is dogging. And those who like Crowe and Jackman have a right to defend them.

  • lovetheusa1776

     Fans are there to defend – some are more equal than others, however.

  • loveroftalent

    Which is all fine and well, but to just post negative comments about Adam just because you don’t like him is not…

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    I have no problem with him taking the heat for what he said but I do think that homophobic comments are not necessary as they have nothing to do with the topic.   

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    I very much disagree.  I’ve just glanced at some of the comments sections on these articles and many are very nasty and homophobic.

  • suenigma

    “And, when all is said and done Adam is not (right now) a broadway actor nor is he involved in movie acting.”

    Tess, if he keeps making comments like these (however much he is free to do so, and even if there is truth behind them) he may never get the opportunity to act on Broadway or in the movies. I think Adam is a smart guy, and by all accounts a very nice guy, but I just wish he would employ his brain to mouth (or in this case, fingers) filter more judiciously.

    I don’t recall a bunch of A-List fellow singers publicly critiquing Adam’s AMA performance (I could be wrong). For the most part that was left to the critics, media and the general public. I would have been flabbergasted if Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood, or anyone else who was there had spoken out, frankly.

  • suenigma

    Lots of very nasty, juvenile, mean comments. Actually homophobic though? A few – but not many, IMO.

  • loveroftalent

    When he was on idol many stated who they prefer, and after the AMAs I think it was only Allison that came to his defense

  • Tess

    Sue…

    I really don’t think the world of entertainment is as narrowed minded or as old boys club as you make it out to be.  And Adam isn’t saying anything about Hugh or Russel or some others that a lot of others aren’t saying…the press just isn’t picking up on it with the same fervor.

    Not every Actor is right for every role, Hugh and Russel, though both good actors were totally miscast for their roles.  Hugh is no more the everyman ValJean than I am.  

    None of us have any idea what Adam intends to do…and his comments won’t block his way if something does come up, I don’t think.  But then this could be the nail in his coffin and his 15 minutes may surely be up this time.

  • ANNIEBA

    I saw the movie with my daughter and really enjoyed it but I have never seen an actual stage production of it to campare it to, and Adam has. I will say that the most memorable part was Anne Hathaway’s performance, she was brilliant. The rest of the singing, was just not that impressive, but I don’t think the director was going for that, his vision was about the acting, not the music so much, as it seems some of the songs were cut short. It seemed to me some of the story was rushed but that is probably because I am comparing it to the non musical version with Liam Neeson I recently saw.
    However, now I really want to see a a real operatic stage version very badly. I would be great to hear these songs sung by true opera singers.

  • kcostell

    Given a choice between great actors pretending to be singers and great singers pretending to be actors, give me the actors any day.  

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”And when those criticism came up, his fans defended him to no end.”

    Which pretty much common with every fanbase. But if you noticed in some Adam’s thread/discussion some fans disagree with him too.

    I came to opened one thread about PP recently and yes his fans were defending him to no end(about his love/hate relationship with his song Home).

  • Tess

    Just buy the original British cast version from some 25 years ago.  That is how it was intended to be sung.

  • jpfan2

      P2 made a negative comment about his coronation single nine months ago and some people are still angry about it. Of course he’s not gay, so his critics can’t be called homophobic.
     
    Imagine if he’d criticized Les Miz. I can just hear the howling!
     
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Vh1: Adam Lambert vs. Les Miz: we’d glad 2012 saved the most fabulous Twitter feud for last!Clearly the media still loves a good Adam Lambert story. Say what you will  even though they may not need the PR Les Miz must love this discussion on virtually every news media/print today. No such thing as too much publicity.

  • suenigma

    Uhm, Adam voluntarily choose to be on a singing COMPETITION. Adam has also publicly stated which competitors he has preferred. So? Not sure what that has to do his publicly criticizing fellow singers/actors.

    Regarding the AMAs, you are proving my point. I suspect that a number of other singers were probably less than impressed, but they had the good manners to keep it to themselves. Not coming to his defense does not equal criticizing him.

  • loveroftalent

     Why can’t we have both….I am sure there is lots of very talented singers and actors out there that just need a big break…I always love hearing about the unknowns blowing everyone away with a performance and becomes a household name…

  • loveroftalent

     Sorry but I don’t think it would have turned into what it has….

  • bridgette12

    If P2 critcized Les Mes, no one would have cared.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    In an ideal world, that would be great, but in the world of producing movies, there’s no way that they are going to risk a multi-million dollar production on unknowns, who have no box office appeal. It’s never going to be any different.

  • Montavilla

    He also thought Liz & Dick was great, and that Lindsay Lohan did a great job portraying Elizabeth Taylor. Just a thought.

    That should have been the scandal!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here’s the entire video of the 10th anniversary concert version of Les Miz with the “dream cast”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMmF9el0S7k

  • lovetheusa1776

    Still confounded how a few tweets from a middling-famous performer to his fans about a movie he’d just seen have suddenly turned viral in the media.   There have been far harsher reviewers all over the place and no one, to my knowledge, is going after them. 

  • loveroftalent

    Well didn’t these things used to happen, because how did all these actors get so famous…Someone must have taken a risk on them. 

  • loveroftalent

    I don’t understand it…at all…

  • seashellz51

     Adam takes as much criticism as anyone. The criticism of him singing with Queen is still going on. He subjected himself to criticism on TV’s  largest show in front of 20M people. Im pretty sure Hugh Jackman can take a little criticism from an ‘unknown’ like Adam Lambert. Also, I would wager that all the actors and singers knew beforehand that they would be criticized as well, knowing they were taking on a popular musical.  So criticism is something to be expected. Adams’ was kind and honest. The fact so many people care what his opinion is is heart-warming. For me, the fact the criticism comes from him gives it even more validity. Maybe some people just want the “beautiful, just beautiful” comments all the time. Not me.

  • loveroftalent

    In my opinion Adam gets way more criticism than anyone I know…and I can’t figure out why…

  • HermeticallySealed

    That was my first introduction to the vocal performance of the show.  And is always the one I hold all others to.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    That’s what I noticed with PP’s thread. His opinion eons ago was being brought up in almost every thread he has and of course his fans would come to his defense. I don’t have anything against the guy but I’m only making a point that defending a special snowflakes wasn’t only done by Adam’s fans but all the fanbases actually.

    If anything I learned from being an Idol fan, haters would always hate/criticized anything those they hated do or say. Not that I’m saying everyone who disagree with Adam on his opinions with this movie were haters.

    BTW, it’s already 1am here…. so happy new year, y’all!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    I think he’s right up there with Clay Aiken. Another opinionated Idol FTW!!

  • loveroftalent

    Happy New Year…

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Most critiques are coming from professional critics, right?  Or the general public.  That’s expected.

    MOST entertainers try not to talk smack about each other in public.  I’m sure they do it plenty in private, but it’s generally considered in poor taste to publicly criticize.  And most refrain because they don’t want comments like that coming back to bite them in the ass in the future.

    And the ones that do usually experience a backlash.  Hey, ask Kanye. :op

  • ANNIEBA

    Thank you! I am bookmarking it for later. I also wanted to say, regarding Anne Hathaway’s performance, it was her acting skill more than her voice that was so riveting. I will have to see how I feel about the stage production here to see if has the same effect on me.
    I certainly don’t think Adam had some devious motive for his tweets, lol. He loves his stage version with outstanding vocalists and was disappointed in the movie, that’s all. I still can’t believe all the press this is getting but I guess it just proves Adam is somehow still somewhat of a media magnet, negative or positive. Kind of amazing really the emotions he stirs up in people still.

  • loveroftalent

    OMG…He did not talk smack about anyone…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Sure, but they started out in supporting roles and developed a reputation before they got leading roles. Same here – the major roles are cast with box office draw as a key factor, and a number of stage actors were also cast in lesser roles/chorus. eg. Hannah Waddingham who has played lead roles on Broadway and the West End has a minor role in the chorus of one scene. I’m impressed that Samantha Barks was chosen for Eponine considering that more “known” singers were talked about as possible casts, and this is her film debut. 

  • jpfan2

     
    P2 has the #2 album on iTunes right now. Right ahead of …Les Miz. That’s pretty ironic. ;0

  • bridgette12

    Do you actually think that those considering the actors or actresses for Oscars nominations are going to pay attention to a tweet from Adam Lambert? Is this the same guy people have declared as being non relevant in the music industry. I don’t think the Les Mes cast really care either way.

  • turquoisewaters

    Netiri?@_izla_zandzz
    Examine Him: Contrary to media reports Hugh Jackman was not offended by Lambert’s remarks. “God, he’s a sexy fuck when he rants,” he said.

  • ceecee21

    MJ, he may miss the point as far as you are concerned but then you don’t really “get” Adam.  He is entitled to his opinion….by the way, I Les Mis yesterday and I think his review of the movie is about 90% the way I felt about it.

  • durbesque

    I think this is great publicity for Adam.  His review is kinder than some I have read on BroadwayWorld.  Adam has never worked on Broadway or in movies, so his opinion is no more important than anybody else’s.  It’s just an opportunity for his fans and foes to ejackulate.  

  • milwlovesadam

    Okay. So. I haven’t seen the movie yet. BUT. Everyone that I know who has, has said the exact same thing that Adam did.

    So here is my question:

    Why is Adam getting so much press for simply expressing his opinion about the VOCALS  in a well-loved musical, like anybody is allowed to, but he performs in front of hundreds of thousands of people with Queen and gets:

    NO PRESS at all in the states. NONE.

    And for someone who has put out a stellar album, with: NO RADIO PLAY, why the press about giving an opinion about vocals???

    Adam is more than qualified to have an opinion about vocals, especially in a theatrical musical production.

    FWIW: I don’t want to see bad singing in a musical. I want to see a musical well-sung. I was raised seeing musicals performed by talented people who could both sing AND act. It’s not either-or. It’s both.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    I love me some badass Pink! who is always dissing her autotune peers like Britney  Spears who BTW kicks her butt in sales. You know what Pink! would say to her critics. Kiss my white trailer ass. lol.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Oh, who knows, but the Oscar process is basically a political campaign. And as cool as most like to play it, they’re all gagging for a nomination. Negative critiques are probably not appreciated right about now.

  • Sara M

     I don’t think that would be considered irony.

  • bridgette12

    People are really giving Adam a whole lot of relevance, considering that his opinion is one among numerous already given my professional movie critics.

  • potatorocks

    It doesn’t matter if what he says is on the mark or not.  Ideally,  artists should support each other’s craft.  The public as well as professional critics judge every single performance the way it is.  The entertainment world is so difficult to be successful in that artist’s should not be negative about one another’s work in public even if that means holding one’s tongue sometimes and not saying anything.  

  • loveroftalent

    Ok I guess I am naive to think Hollywood would give an unknown a chance no matter how talented they are…It’s very sad…

  • bridgette12

    Poor Adam, I guess that means he not going to be black balled for stating his opinion. I’m not fan of Hugh’s singing, but I do like his acting. Glad to see that he really don’t give a damn. If your confident in your talent, you really don’t care that everybody don’t love everything you do. He also knows that with the good comes the bad.  

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Probably because he’s known as a one of the great vocalists today.  They are probably taking his vocal critiques seriously.  That and, as I stated, MOST entertainers aren’t as blunt as him because they fear backlash.

  • bridgette12

    I love Pink, she’s never been afraid to give her opinion. It was funny when Christina got arrested and Pink said that she never imagined that between Christina, Britney and her, that she would be the one who never ended up in jail.

  • loveroftalent

    See again…I still don’t see his comments as blunt or nasty..Just stating his opinion and again, I really feel he had no idea that it would turn into what it has…He has many conversations on twitter with his fans and asks them for their opinions..I mean one big conversation was what is the one thing about yourself that you are self concious about.   It was really amazing what some revealed about themselves…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Not in leading roles intended to “carry” the film, and in these days of the mega-costs involved in film making and expected returns, it’s not surprising. However, it actually has happened recently in the film “Dreamgirls”. The leads (Beyonce, Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy) were all  major stars, and known box office draws. Then, they cast Jennifer Hudson, a relative unknown, in her film debut and she hit the jackpot and was one of those rare cases of “a star is born”. However, once the lead roles (and box office draws) were in place, then they were willing to take a chance on an unknown. Samantha Barks was in a similar situation in the Les Miz film in that it’s her film debut, but as good as she is (I’m referring to the video clip of her singing in the 25th anniversary concert show), it appears that she’s being overshadowed in the movie by Anne Hathaway.

  • Tess

    Oh, if life were only so simple.  If I was out for a multi-million dollar roll you bet your bippy I’d make sure the word got out about how bad my competition was in such and such a roll.  Just because they may not say it themselves, they pay tons of people lots of money to make sure that others know how bad someone can be.  And if anyone thinks anything Adam is saying about some of the cast in Les Miz will have anything to do with how someone else votes come Oscar time they are giving a heck of a lot of credit to a little nobody.

  • loveroftalent

    Ok I understand now…And yes JEnnifer stole the show…She was amazing in it…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol You realize that this is a joke, right?

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Exactly.  Les Miserables wouldn’t have even have been made if they didn’t score some big A-list names for the cast.  Hugh Jackman is a huge reason the movie even got made in the first place.  They need to have the guaranteed box office draw, which of course doesn’t always mean that every movie with A-list stars makes money, but studios aren’t going to risk the big bucks on a bunch of no names.  Also agree as said it doesn’t mean that unknowns never get into these films or get a big break, but there have to be enough box office draws in one picture before they will take a chance on an unknown.  It also pretty much seems to be the case with just about every movie musical.   Even take something as light as Hairspray.  They went with an unknown for the lead because it was kind of a role that called for it, but then packed the rest of the cast with known stars, whether some of them could sing or not. 

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    “And if anyone thinks anything Adam is saying about some of the cast in
    Les Miz will have anything to do with how someone else votes come Oscar
    time they are giving a heck of a lot of credit to a little nobody.”

    I didn’t say that.  I said those hoping for Oscar nods might be really sensitive to a critique right now (especially from a vocalist others would take seriously) FEARING it could affect their chances.  Also, I’m sure most of the cast took a major leap of faith taking on these roles and singing live.  Adam’s critiques could really sting.

    There’s a reason why everyone in the industry has publicists.  They worry about how their image will affect their careers.

  • Tess

    If Australia didn’t ruin Hugh Jackman’s career not singing up to snuff in Les Miz won’t make a dent in it.  

  • MellyPer1692

    I’m reading the comments and there are a ton of homophobic comments.

  • ceecee21

    I agree about negative stories getting all the hits, afterall during the month of Dec. you had something about Kris Allen every other day and I saw very few hits to those stories.

  • Miss Chaos

    I dont think anyone looking for an Oscar nod cares what Adam Lambert thinks.  Now the reviewing people, thats a different story.  Heck the guy just remarked about a movie he liked and knows a lot about, and if anyone can comment on singing its Adam, I do not think he was lonely or bored, nor do I think he said to to get attention because his Album and singles supposedly tanked.  He just remarked on a movie!!!!Maybe some of the other Idols should remark on it, or maybe they already did and no one cares.  Why anyone cares what Adam thinks is beyond me,:)

  • potatorocks

    I don’t think anyone in Les Miz cares an iota what adam thinks.   I believe he is getting press for dissing his peers.  

  • supersonic

    I didn’t say that.  I said those hoping for Oscar nods might be really
    sensitive to a critique right now (especially from a vocalist others
    would take seriously) FEARING it could affect their chances.  Also, I’m
    sure most of the cast took a major leap of faith taking on these roles
    and singing live.  Adam’s critiques could really sting.

    Or it could not.  I’m sure people like Hugh Jackman or Anne Hathaway or Russell Crowe could give a damn what Adam Lambert says.  Hell, they probably don’t even know who he is.

  • Miss Chaos

    But is he really dissing his peers?  Elton and Madonna are singers, these people are actors, nothing to do with Adam, his just made comments about the movie he saw and the singing in it.  And he did say that he is just discussing it!!!

  • bridgette12

    If Hugh isn’t insulted by Adam not mentioning him in his tweets, I don’t see why anyone else is.

  • mjsbigblog

    Why is Adam getting so much press for simply expressing his opinion
    about the VOCALS  in a well-loved musical, like anybody is allowed to,
    but he performs in front of hundreds of thousands of people with Queen
    and gets:

    NO PRESS at all in the states. NONE.

    Once again…THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.  Adam got plenty of press for his concerts with Queen. More than you would expect, here in the states, for concerts that were performed overseas!

  • Axxxel

    Happy New Year Nadine !!

  • TheOther

    The people that determine the acting nominees for the Oscar – are made up of other actors who are selected members of the Academy. And most of them are not singers. Looking at their past association with Oscar, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway, Hugh Jackman are most likely voting members of the Academy.

    The Oscars are a clique within Hollywood.

  • jan

    I think that the only result of Adam’s comments are to get his name in the entertainment press. I do not think that the actors in Le Mis will care what he says. I do not think that this does damage to Adam’s career in any way. I think he wanted attention and he got it. I do not think it is a bad thing to want attention.

    I do think that Adam’s comments reflect a theater bias. Directors for the most part want film actors in their main roles – very few actors excel in both stage and film. There is a very big difference between stage acting and screen acting. On the stage the gestures and facial expressions must be large – the voice needs to boom – the actor needs to move about the stage – in order for the audience to get it. On screen though exaggerated actions and facial expressions are only appropriate in comedy. The screen actor needs to draw the viewer in – to create the feeling of deep emotion with just a glance of the eye or a very slight quiver of the lip or turn of the head. Stage acting radiates out – screen acting draws in. (Just google stage acting vs. film acting and you will see many articles about this.)

    I think Adam is a natural on the stage – I believe Simon called him theatrical. Some thought this was a put down – but it’s not – it is a way of projecting oneself. Watch Adam’s music videos – there are a lot of broad stage acting movements and facial expressions.

  • Axxxel

    Partial radio interview of Adam Lambert in Bali… maybe this has been posted before.. aaww so Adam will meet Allison Iraheta in a short while from now…maybe he can discuss with her about  back up singers.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Why are we discussing P2 and Kris Allen in this thread??? Deleting now.

  • bridgette12

     I had to snicker when she asked about how he handles criticism. If he looked at his twitter, he probably would have had a hard time not laughing. Glad to hear he’s still close to Allison. 

  • lovetheusa1776

    Agree with your post except for the wanting attention remark.  Have no way of knowing that and simply feel that, after seeing a work he admired and loved, was truly disappointed in the result.  Normal reaction to express that.  The argument is whether he should have – one can make arguments either way.  Mixed bag.

  • Axxxel

    The answer he gave about criticism, reminded me of the video he made for the Trevor Project… in which he said something similar.

  • girlygirltoo

    I doubt that Adam’s opinion will have any impact on whether any of the people in Les Miz get nominated for an Oscar. And why should it? Although he has a background in musical theatre and is an excellent singer, he’s never made a movie musical, so he doesn’t have any direct experience in what goes into the production of such a massive undertaking. Really, there’s no reason why his opinion would have any impact on this film and the actors in any way, shape or form. Most of them probably are unaware Adam has even expressed this opinion. And I haven’t seen his tweets picked up by any media outside the Idol bubble. His opinion is just that — his opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

  • YankeeFan08

    Actually the “story” has been reported far outside the Idol bubble unless CBS, NBC and CNN (to name a few) are considered the Idol bubble.  I don’t think so.

    I actually think it’s quite hilarious that his tweet has gotten so much attention. As you said, it was his opinion, nothing more, nothing less.  I’m truly baffled why so many people seem to care what he says.

  • roarpen

    How can someone so smart tweet something so dumb? *facepalm* Me thinks he must thrive on controversy. He handles himself well, generally, in interviews etc.
    But there is part of him that just needs to stir it up, or just doesn’t know how to stop stirring it up. If it’s not a twitter rant like this it’s a drunken brawl, or slamming a dancer’s face in his crotch. I know his fans will flock to his defense and say it hardly ever happens, but it does. He comes off as a douche when he does stuff like this. No one is perfect, and he can be very charming, but his screw-ups are big ones. And I think that big one at the very start of his public career (AMAs) positioned him in a way that when he screws up now the media gloms onto it. He is so talented, yet he is also his own worst enemy. Well, it will be interesting to see where he ends up. I hope that he does go back to Broadway, I think that is where he will end up really making his mark.

  • HKfan

    But the title Les Miserable should have been a big enough draw in itself, without big name actors.

  • Axxxel

    Cute video from Bali… she kept  on singing even if there were initial problems with the wardrobe…Kickin’ in, but without Adam.>>>
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUtOnMVyiM

  • lovetheusa1776

    That was the puzzle for me as well.

  • Axxxel

    At least for those familiar to musicals and musical theater… not really for the general public.

  • HKfan

    Thats the bit that annoys me, he praises singers and performers all the time…but does that ever get picked up by the media…nope, cos where’s the fun in that!

  • lovetheusa1776

    The tweet wasn’t dumb – after reading reviews it was very much on point.  What’s interesting is why such a furor erupted when he’s not that big a player.

  • seashellz51

     Adam cant go ‘back’ to Broadway because he has never been there in the first place.

  • Axxxel

    Adam already leaves Bali on 1 Jan 2012 ?   :-(…. Hope he will get to Ubud next time… So this gig was a “Sony” thing…This is a link to the complete interview that I posted earlier… it starts at around 1’09″… https://soundcloud.com/#galechester/penguin-fm-bali-103-6-adam
    The DJ’s were joking that the interviewer were doing PDKT towards Adam… an abbreviation for saying that she tried to approach him in a romantic way… Oh well…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IDXVM7NCMXZVHX4M2RFBYOTYDA Robert

    Maybe not the best thing to say but I will give Adam credit for not backtracking on what he has to say like other celebs do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    Coming very late to this party.   As a lover of Broadway and road shows, I see exactly where Adam was taking this critique.   Sorry people had to read more into it than was actually said.  Hollywood and Broadway and its ilk seem to be polar opposites.  Broadway isn’t so much about making money is its about great production.  Hollywood is about making money.   There is no other reason for casting high profile stars in musical instead of Broadway stars, who have a much lower profile.  I applaud Adam for speaking his own truth about the musical, which is an opera to him and to me.   Its a shame that Hollywood isn’t full of Barbar Streisands, but then again, it may be, but no one is looking.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P46N6P5XPK22JVXDJJEENXGLVE marie

    OMG all of this attention for a simple tweet to his fans about a movie.  Go Adam, way to go, front page yahoo and #2 USA trending. 

  • http://twitter.com/svmreiter Susan Reiter

    Always interested in hearing what someone who was actually in the field – performing in musicals – has to say and Adam has never failed to give his glowing reviews to other artists when he felt that way.   In fact, mostly he gives positive views.  That makes his occasional negative review more believable to me.  Glad he is articulate and not afraid to speak his mind.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, I give him credit for speaking his mind and standing by it instead of having his partner or parents delete things off his twitter and explain what he really meant when it was obvious like some Idols have done. Who knew Adams thoughts on a movie would be so newsworthy lol.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Yeah, I have to agree.  This is one of those, mountain out of a molehill moments.  To be honest, he didn’t say he hated the movie, he critiqued what he didn’t like, and what he did, just like thousands of others. His opinion is not going to make or break anyone’s career, so it’s kind of funny that people act (not necessarily here) like it’s such a huge deal. Truthfully, he was far more complementary and polite than anyone on my Facebook has been. Most of the theater peeps in my circle were pretty . . . descriptive of their dislike. lol

  • MellyPer1692

    Really girlygirl?? CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, US, VH1, YAHOO, AOL, HUFFINGTON POST, etc are part of the idol bubble? Lol, it’s larger than I suspected.

  • MellyPer1692

    Probably because Adam gets brought up in other idol threads, positive and negative. I didn’t realize it wasn’t allowed.

  • loveroftalent

    Love this comment by BruceK at the Daily News article on @adamlambert’s voicing an opinion on Les Miserables!!

    As an aside…. Maybe they should make Lambert an entertainment critic. I just did a quick Google search and found this story around the globe (even in Russia & Belarus). It appears the review of one lone singer holds more weight than the LA Times or The New York Post.”

  • loveroftalent

    The reason I posted this is show just how crazy this has gotten..

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    Late to the party…

    I don’t think it was Adam’s intention to hurt or insult anyone; he probably considered his comments to be constructive criticism (or maybe tough love).  He has been a performer since childhood, and is used to receiving critiques – sometimes harsh critiques – and as long as they don’t come across as more personal than professional, he isn’t bothered by them.  Hell, he didn’t even get really angry at Gene Simmons until he went beyond the “he doesn’t have a rock voice” criticism and moved on to the “he’s destroying his career by talking about his sexuality because we don’t want to know about it” comments.

    I don’t think it’s so much that he didn’t “get” the director’s vision as that he didn’t agree with it.  For him, the quality of the vocals was as important to his immersion in the story as the quality of the acting.  If others don’t see it that way, so be it, but it doesn’t make him wrong.  I daresay a lot of people who treasure the stage production feel the same way.  The fact that he probably has dozens of people in his contacts list who could have killed both the acting and the singing must make it even more frustrating to him.

    And I have no proof whatsoever, but I don’t believe for one minute that what he said had anything to do with “sour grapes” because he wasn’t cast in the film.  There is no evidence whatsoever that he was interested in it.  He was working on his album, and that was his priority.  He said it often enough when he was asked about branching out into film, or television, or other areas of the business before and during his work on “Trespassing”.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     “How can someone so smart tweet something so dumb?”

    I agree.  That’s why I suspect soar grapes.  He’s usually quite smart and tends to keep his tweets on the positive tip.  When he doesn’t, it’s usually because he’s ticked off about something.

  • loveroftalent

    No I don’t think sour grapes at alll…Just that he felt disappointed…Why can’t it be simple as that…Why can’t Adam say something with no hidden agenda behind it…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    As I recall, when Clay Aiken criticized Adam’s singing, Adam accused Clay of “riding his coattails” for publicity.  He didn’t take it as just an opinion or personal preference.  He took it as an agenda driven comment.  So he understands that social media “controversies” get press. 

    Since Adam apparently doesn’t like for people to PRETEND, then I won’t pretend he does not understand how to use social media to get his name mentioned in the press.  I think his holding out for the RS cover and his AMA performance, among other things, pretty much prove that Adam has known how to push buttons for attention right from the start. 

    Adam himself said he was being “harsh”.  It doesn’t sound like he wants any defending for getting the attention he was seeking.  He appears to court controversy.  Some celebrities do that. 

  • HermeticallySealed

     Not sure what was dumb about it.  Many people have stated the exact same thing.  Why must pointing out the obvious, that which many, many people are also saying be sour grapes?  Can’t it be just an honest critique?

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    “How can someone so smart tweet something so dumb?”

    I agree.  That’s why I suspect soar grapes.  He’s usually quite smart
    and tends to keep his tweets on the positive tip.  When he doesn’t,
    it’s usually because he’s ticked off about something.

    He was.  He was ticked off at what he saw as inferior singing compromising the music and the storytelling.  And he was ticked off that, in his opinion, the movie industry considers singing – certainly what he sees as his greatest strength – to be of secondary importance when casting for a movie musical.

    I’ll say it again…there is zero evidence that he was interested in being cast in the film.  There are far more statements from him, in interview after interview, during the pertinent period stating that he was focusing on his sophomore album, which makes perfect sense.

  • seashellz51

     Now if Adam would have said Hugh Jackman makes his ears bleed…. then I could understand the media outrage…. lol

  • HermeticallySealed

     He nearly made mine . . . . but only a couple of times.  ;)   I kid, I kid.  Sorta. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I don’t think the media is outraged.  They just want hits and are probably happy that Adam obliged them with a “soundbite” criticizing long established successful actors in the biggest movie out right now.

  • HermeticallySealed

     That would be The Hobbit.  Les Mis came in third, and unfortunately Zero Dark Thirty is starting to steal the Oscar thunder.  For all my issues with the movie, I do think Anne deserves a nod for Supporting Actress and there a several technical aspects I think it should get as well.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    The point remains the same.  “One of the biggest” or “3rd biggest of the week”…if that really makes a difference.

  • http://twitter.com/riskyladyfla MAS

    Hilarious! Too bad Adam didn’t complain about Tom Cruise in “Rock of Ages,” that movie could have used some controversy – but then, everyone would have just agreed with him so it would have just gone unnoticed LOL.

  • Axxxel

    Yeah he was focused on his 2nd album and the Queenbert concerts yeah !

  • iluvai

    For me, some theatre productions don’t translate well into movies. I’m not planning on seeing this movie. Not because of Adam, but because of reviews I’ve read. It’s nice though that the movie brings the story to a wider audience. It’s an amazing story.

  • HermeticallySealed

     I think it’s worth seeing, though Red Box it.  As most of the movie is head shots, it doesn’t need to be seen with 55′ high. In fact, it would be less claustrophobic seen on a tv. And hey, it’d only be $1.50, so if you didn’t care for it, no a huge loss.

  • iluvai

    Thanks, that’s how I watch most movies because they are so darn expensive!

  • iluvai

    Thanks, that’s how I watch most movies because they are so darn expensive!

  • HermeticallySealed

     I’ve lucked out in that one of our theaters shows new movies for like $4.00 daytime, and $6 for evening.  It’s not a pretty place, but for that price i can afford to see them new.

  • ANNIEBA

    IKR? What happened here? Was it such a slow news day that this tweet review from Adam caused such a stir? I guess in a way it shows the media have an interest in him because he gets a rise out of people. The reaction this has gotten is more fascinating than the movie critique to me, haha. Also, most of the stories assume people know who Adam is and don’t seem to feel the need to do the gay, Idol, runner up spiel. This is a good thing but I still am surprised by the fuss.

  • iluvai

    Lucky!  Sounds like a place I used to go to when I lived in Houston. :)

  • durbesque

    The show is thrilling, but I don’t expect much of a thrill from the movie.  I simply could not watch the movie versions of ‘Rent’, ‘Sweeney Todd’, ‘The Producers’, ‘Chicago’…  They have to go all the way back to “Wizard of Oz’ and ‘Sound of Music’ to get good movie musicals.

  • loveroftalent

    Totally agree with what you said about Wizard Of Oz and SOund of Music, but I did love Sweeney Todd, but just because I love Johnny Depp, he can do no wrong…

  • Goodvibes27

    Slow news day.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    That Yahoo article has almost 5000 comments alone. Huffington Post, Billboard. So much feelings over a movie.

    BTW, A girl jumped on stage last night on Adam. Security tried to pull her off but she held on and wouldn’t let go. Adam said OMG.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, someone just tweeted that their local news did a segment on Adams critique and agreed with him. This is too humorous. I expected it to get swallowed up by the KanyeKim spawn :)

  • milwlovesadam

     With all due respect, MJ, but Adam’s fans are pretty good at finding media about him. We just don’t recall any serious print media about Queen. There was a little bit of online media and blogs about the Queen shows, but no print media that any of us can recall.

    MJ, if you have links to any bonafide Queen/Adam coverage from the states, I and many other fans would be interested in it. Honestly.

    Yes, the focus of this thread is about the Les Miz tweet-gate. But, IMHO, the amount of media coverage of this is astounding.

    But, thanks for this thread, it is fun reading!!

  • loveroftalent

    You know if Adam had raved about the movie, he would get accused of trying to suck up to the powers that be…I know it wouldn’t have gotten this much attention but we all know negative comments about Adam would still be said..

  • loveroftalent

    Thats why in interviews they were so surprised that the Queen concerts had already happened…

  • Nadine_Bitch

     I watched his Ten Commandments video again and find myself wishing he’d do something like this again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY9olWGwF7c&feature=player_embedded

    Perfection!

  • Jordana33

    People are really giving Adam a whole lot of relevance, considering that his opinion is one among numerous already given my professional movie critics.

    Critics are expected to be very critical.  In contrast, most entertainers prefer to be diplomatic or supportive when discussing the work of their peers. Generally when entertainers are critical, their comments always get a lot of media attention and not only were Adam’s comments very critical, but they were also very baiting. Almost like waving a red flag in front of the tabloids! He must have known this would happen…..

  • sjames08

    The reason why this was such big of a news is because there are two groups of people: those who follow the real world, and those who follow the Kardashians.

  • Miss Chaos

    Now thats serious Adam news!;]

  • lovetheusa1776

    Still don’t know why the media would go bonkers over a guy who’s not a prominent star, with no presence on radio, tweeting to his followers about a new movie.  Who cares?

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Honestly, I have to laugh. I thought it was just the bloggers picking up on and running with this. I had no idea anyone else would give a damn what Adam Lambert had to say on Twitter about a movie. I guess I was wrong. (I am an  Adam fan but really didn’t think he was relevant enough to merit this much media attention on this topic.) Maybe this is karma for Kanye. It’s like Adam grabbed the mic and said, “I’ma let you finish talking about knocking up your girl, but first let me tell you what I think of Les Miz!”

  • girlygirltoo

    So, contrary to my earlier post, I see now that several non-Idol related sites have picked up this story. Must be a super slow “news” day.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Well…um… there is that pesky fiscal cliff. Personally, I find it a tad disturbing  that Adam’s opinion of Les Miz was trending on Yahoo up there with the fiscal cliff and Hillary’s blood clot. 

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Must be, ABC & even Billboard were running the news too, not to mention the ones outside US.

  • overthetop1

    I saw the movie yesterday, and I am a singer. I agree with most of what he said. Anne Hathaway, Aaron Tveit, and Samantha Barks had the best performances because they were also the best singers. Hugh Jackman also sang very well. Singing by Russell Crowe, Eddie Redmayne and Amanda Seyfried wasn’t bad, but wasn’t great either. Actually, Russell Crowe was surprising weak, really miscast. His performance was wooden, one dimensional. And his singing was more like honking. Eddie Redmayne was perfect for Marius in looks but his vocal tone was like a frog, and his jaw shakes with his vibrato, which was darned distracting.

  • Kitwana

    MTV, Huffington Post and AP picked up Clay’s attack on Adam in 2009. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1612015/clay-aiken-rips-adam-lambert-american-idol-on-his-blog.jhtml That did not make Clay relevant. It is surprising how many of the outlets picking up on the Adam story picked up n the Clay story in 2009. Just shows that the media likes stories of celebrities attacking other celebrities and their projects. Clay and Adam notwithstanding, I think this is still relatively rare in the celebrity world, outside of “attack comics” like Kathy Griffin or Joan Rivers.

  • overthetop1

    Chicago is not a bad movie musical; it won picture of the year.

    And I too find it weird that the news is picking up on Adam Lambert’s opinion of Les Mis.

  • MellyPer1692

    Eh, the media has been interested in Adam since Idol. This doesn’t surprise me. Hell, he got tons of press for just changing his hair color.

  • MellyPer1692

    Overthetop1, I agree. Russell’s performance was god-awful, it felt like he was phoning it in and it was distracting to me. I loved Hugh, but there were some songs where he struggled with the range and it felt like they should have lowered the key for him. Like Adam, I do think people should see the film, Anne Hathaway was breathtaking.

  • snow_ghost

    Yes, I believe Spike Lee is boycotting DJANGO unchained.   I don’t think it’s that uncommon for celebrities to comment about films, bands etc.    And let’s face it, the idols get slammed all of the time by DJ’s and have a hard time gaining acceptance because they come from IDOL.  So I don’t think they should always have to be on the receiving end of the criticism.

  • IMHO

    I’ve had the pleasure of seeing Les Mis on stage several times. The first was the West End production in around 1996 (Robert Marien was Valjean). Since then I’ve seen, among others, a major N American touring production, a smaller professional version (1 1/4 times!) and a semi-professional version. I’ve enjoyed all of them immensely apart from the 1/4 when they lost the sound system and we got sent home :-(. I also have the DVD and CDs of the 10th anniversary. I haven’t seen the movie yet, don’t go during the hols, but I couldn’t even get through the snippets of the highlights CD. It was even worse than the 25th anniversary one. I’ll take Adam’s opinions seriously here …

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    And don’t forget Spike’s Twitter campaign to steer his followers away from seeing “The Help.” 

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    MTV, Huffington Post and AP picked up Clay’s attack on Adam in 2009.http://www.mtv.com/news/articl… That did not make Clay relevant.

    Good point. It was most likely Adam who was relevant at that juncture in time. 

  • mjsbigblog

    MJ, if you have links to any bonafide Queen/Adam coverage from the
    states, I and many other fans would be interested in it. Honestly.

    Yeah….I’m not going to hunt down old newstories. But while I’m not following every move that Adam makes, I DO follow ALL of the general news sites, and I distinctly remember many news sites covering the Adam/Queen concerts. For what it was, it got plenty of coverage.

  • mjsbigblog

    Good point. It was most likely Adam who was relevant at that juncture in time.

    Clay got a ton of press just recently when he called out the judges for making Idol all about themselves rather than the contestants.  We actually had quite the discussion going on about it in headlines.

    The thing is, if an artist in the public eye appears to be throwing shade to WHOMEVER, the press is going to pick up on it. Period.

    I’m 100 hundred percent not surprised that the press picked up on this particular rant. Adam himself provided the perfect dissy sounding bite, just perfect for headlines “Great Actors Pretending to be Singers.”  No outlet was going to pass that up.

  • Axxxel

    Yeah had also a fun time reading… starting before the New Years Eve, countdown, after the New Years Eve countdown, and now I am reading again, after some visits to friends today…

    About Queenbert in the US press. I could not really find at the first google search but I found these 2 links.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/adam-lambert-queen-ukraine-kiev-concert-344384

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/adam-lambert-queen-summer-concerts-311001

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    MJ! Did you read my comment? I said “at that juncture in time.” But, frankly,  I follow this blog religiously and I don’t remember the press being all over Clay’s comments like this. If so, I’m sure you would have made it a topic of its own rather than burying it in a headline thread. In other news,  I doubt the press would give a shit if Ruben or Ace or Lee Dewyze or Kris Allen voiced a negative opinion about Les Miz, and I think you know that as well as I do. It’s true that no media outlet is going to pass up a dishy comment as long as it comes from someone that is media-worthy enough to generate controversy. On the other hand, no matter the dishiness of the comment, if it comes from someone no one gives a flying leap about, they’ll pass. Every celebrity, past and present, has a Twitter account. No one cares what most of them have to say, even if it’s a comment like  “actors pretending to be singers.”  I’m not saying this all makes Adam the King of Relevance. I’m just saying that to pretend that the media attention is based purely on the comment rather than the person making the comment is naive. And you aren’t naive. It’s true that Adam isn’t either. But, do you really think he orchestrated this? I don’t. I bet he’s as surprised as his fans that his tweets went viral. 

  • Axxxel

    wish I was that girl…

  • jennyl2

    For anyone who is interested, here’s a few from the original London cast. 

    Stars – Javert (Roger Allam)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KA6q0_cfVA

    Come To Me/The Confrontation – Fantine, Valjean, Javert (Patti LuPone, Colm Wilkinson and Roger Allam) – This is my fav part of the musical (Perfection  - Tissues!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8AcgteljU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8AcgteljU

  • jennyl2

    For anyone who is interested, here’s a few from the original London cast. 

    Stars – Javert (Roger Allam)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KA6q0_cfVA

    Come To Me/The Confrontation – Fantine, Valjean, Javert (Patti LuPone, Colm Wilkinson and Roger Allam) – This is my fav part of the musical (Perfection  - Tissues!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8AcgteljU

  • HKfan

    It has a lot to do with his sexuality, more than half of the comments I’ve read on many sites have homophobic overtones, either mentioning in some sort of wording him being gay, a queen, a girl etc, a huge portion mention how he has no talent, can’t sing, can only scream, has no career, is a reality show has been, has no right to an opinion as he can’t sing a note etc….Everyday he, and we as fans have to read comments about how he can’t sing, what a faggot he is, none of it as politely put as Adam said re the cast of Les mis.

  • HKfan

    Go to the Just Jared site if you want to see some of what we mean.

  • HKfan

    Yes everyone is entitled to opnions, Its the way they are expressed, the hate that come across in many comments that is just sad.
    And re Russell Crowe and Hugh Jackman, all the reviews (OK only 4, but main publications)I’ve read have said exactly the same thing.

  • HKfan

    They risked it with Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music, and look how that ended!!!

  • suenigma

    The homophobic stuff is indefensible, but regarding the other stuff…

    “a huge portion mention how he has no talent, can’t sing, can only
    scream, has no career, is a reality show has been, has no right to an
    opinion as he can’t sing a note etc.”

    …that is pretty much par for the course for any celebrity mentioned on those sites. Certainly any reality show contestant. It’s still rude and it doesn’t make it right, but it’s an opinion, and if Adam is gonna dish it…

    Myself, I am waiting with baited breathe to see if the director or any of the actors respond to Adam’s comments. Still stunned it got so much coverage.

  • suenigma

    And Spike Lee, as talented as he is (IMO), is a high and mighty douchebag. He is also a celebrated director, and many A list celebrities are more than willing to hold their noses just to work with him. He can afford to be scathing and opinionated towards his peers.

  • HKfan

    wow, it even made it into the China press

    http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/684f7929jw1e0dwle4u2aj.jpg

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    If you have seen this film, Adam’s comment makes a lot more sense. The director, Tom Hopper, had the actors sing live during the filming and then the orchestra recorded the score. It is interesting but the quality of the singing varies a lot from brilliant (Anne Hathaway) to not so great.  Even the reviewers who gave this film great reviews are critical of the singing.For example, the Wall Street Journal’s Joe Morgenstern review was rated 90 by Metacritic (the top rated review of 38) included this:

    What’s missing from the screen version as a whole is the kind of virtuoso
    singing that’s still a part of first-rate stage musicals, and an
    indispensable part. Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324660404578198160499785442.html

    Adam is not alone in his opinion — but it is unusual for an artist/singer to comment so frankly and that makes it newsworthy. I admit, however, I am surprised that this story has been covered by over 100 news sources. Read more: http://adamtopia.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=admin#ixzz2GihGW6xx

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R37UM43PITK7QU5SHTDWSU7SNA emme

    I saw the movie and I agree with Adam.  Crowe was miscast, although he is a great actor his singing was distracting and detracted from what should have been more emotional. I thought that everyone else was great. Ann was amazing.  The movie was just okay for me. I thought that the end was the most powerful after Crowe’s character offed himself and was out of the end of the film.
     

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Casting Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music was no risk. She had won an Academy Award the year before for “Mary Poppins”.

  • Jordana33

    Still don’t know why the media would go bonkers over a guy who’s not a prominent star, with no presence on radio, tweeting to his followers about a new movie.

    Because it’s exactly the kind of comment that will make readers go bonkers. A lesser-known celebrity giving the public thumbs-down to an A-list actor like Hugh Jackman or Russell Crowe (inferred by process of elimination) is bound to elicit an “Oh-no-he-didn’t!” response from readers. Even those who don’t care, will click on the link just to read the pissed off comments by other people! That, combined with Adam’s fans rushing to post on his defense, and the result is tons of hits. Les Mis is also a pretty high-profile movie….if he said he same a about “High School musical” no one would really care.I haven’t seen the movie yet, and for all I know, Adam could be right. But there does seem to be an unwritten rule against publicly putting down your peers in the business. Just as most Idol alumni avoid criticizing other Idols. I’m sure Adam knows this and fully anticipated this outcome. I can’t see people boycotting Adam or holding a grudge over it, so ultimately, it’s probably good publicity! 

    Also, Adam’s music might not have a big radio presence, but I still think that most people know who he his. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m convinced that the reason why Adam’s comments on Les Miz have attracted so much media attention is not because of his opinion on the film per se, but because of his harsh personal attack on some of the cast. IOW, it’s not what he said, but how he said it. Adam’s comment about “great actors pretending to be singers” went far beyond criticizing the singing in the movie, but attacked these actors at a personal level that was unwarranted. As I posted before, Adam was wrong in his statement. These actors ARE singers, it’s just that some of them are not up the standard required to do full justice to the magnificent score of Les Miz. IMO, these personal attacks were misguided. 

    So, in reality, the issue (which Adam mentioned) is that films of musicals are cast differently from a stage musical, with different priorities. This is NOT new, but has been happening for decades and (when it comes to a major production), will NOT change, and given the history of stage actors being passed over in casting the same roles for films (especially musicals), Adam (with his background) should be well aware of that history, why it happens and will continue to happen. I can understand his POV and objection to that fact, but he’s naive and unrealistic if he expects anything different. If the cast and director of Les Miz are smart, they will ignore Adam’s comments and “pretend” that they never happened. lol

  • Tess

    I find it sad that people are defending a movie that took a magnificent stage play full of some of the best music ever and turned it into an emotional actors forum instead of staying true to the score and its magnitude.  Millions of people are going to use the movie as a gage to measure the musical and the musical is going to come up lacking.  Hollywood does this time and again and just keeps twisting the knife into the broadway coffin with their poor casting and their determination to sway so far from the original that sometimes it bears little or no resemblance to what theater goers have loved over the years.

    Tom Hooper blew it…pure and simple.  Sure his actors can sing, but not SING like trained stage actors.  And being able to sing X doesn’t necessarily mean they can sing Y as is the case with Hugh.  The man is a great song and dance guy and can flip his talons with the best of the bunch but he isn’t ValJean, and Russel is so mis-cast.

    Maybe if Adam was the ONLY voice of dissent I would agree with some here who think he over-stepped, but based on what I saw, and what I read I don’t think he missed the mark nor do I think reasonably intelligent movie goers will think his comments off base.  

    And I guarantee that Hooper won’t win any best director awards with this, and other than Anne I won’t be surprised if other Les Miz actors are passed over.  This movie is making a nice splash right now but I suspect that it won’t go the distance, so to speak…the movie missed its mark and I find that sad.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    You are misunderstanding my comments. I’m not “defending” this movie at all. Quite the contrary. Les Miz is my favorite musical of all time (seen it twice onstage, have the CD, and the DVD of the 10th anniversary concert “dream cast”), so I totally sympathize with Adam’s sentiments about the lack of vocal virtuosity and some of the singers not doing justice to the music. The difference is that because of the history of bringing musicals to film, the fact that the singing is lacking is NOT new or unique to this particular musical, and I don’t expect it to be for the reasons that I stated earlier. 

    I agree with Adam that in this musical, a very high level of vocal excellence is required, but the fact that certain actors fall short of that level of competence does NOT mean that they are “pretending to be singers”, but simply that they don’t have the ability to sing as well as required. But that still doesn’t change the fact that his personal attack on certain actors was not warranted and misguided. IMO, Adam’s issue really is with the whole process of producing films of musicals vs. live musicals, and casting stars with box office draw over stage actors who are better singers, and that has been happening for decades. Because Les Miz requires a higher level of vocal ability than other musicals, the disconnect may be more noticeable here, but I’ve learned a long time ago that only in rare instances does the singing in films of musicals exceed that of live musicals.

  • Tess

    Adam never mentioned Hugh or Russell, so people are putting their own names onto his comments, and that says alot.  People have read the critiques, and many who are commenting have seen the show.  If either of these guys had sung really well their names wouldn’t be foremost in others thoughts.

    Besides, these Actors took on the roles and they knew the risks.  Not everyone is going to applaud your abilities, and sometimes you are going to lay an egg.  Part and parcel of your chosen profession.  If these guys can’t take a little heat they are definitely in the wrong business.

    And, again, the bottom line for me is that Hooper messed up and took “singing” out of the equation.  That is who these Actors should be mad at.  His little untried experiment didn’t work and they came off looking the worse for wear…he should be the person who is getting the heat not Adam for commenting on the results.

  • Karen C

    I’m convinced that the reason why Adam’s comments on Les Miz have attracted so much media attention is not because of his opinion on the film per se, but because of his harsh personal attack on some of the cast.

    I don’t  think that’s the reason that this is getting so much attention.  Part of acting is pretending.  The other thing that Adam said was that usually movie musicals aren’t sung live and the vocals are recorded in the studio, so this would take care of any vocal problems.  If anything this is a criticism of the director. 

    I also think that this getting so much attention is a sign of Adam’s celebrity status, because I doubt most others from Idol would have gotten so much attention for something like this.  Fantasia’s comments, which have been discussed on another thread here,  were far more controversial than Adam’s opinion of a movie and I don’t believe that has gotten any press other than the usual Idol news sources. 

  • HKfan

    Sorry, I meant when she was cast as Mary Poppins she was an unknown on film, just on stage, then won the award.

  • Karen C

    Clay got a ton of press just recently when he called out the judges for making Idol all about themselves rather than the contestants. We actually had quite the discussion going on about it in headlines.

    That might have been because Clay’s popularity increased because of him being on Celebrity Apprentice. When he made the comments about Adam in 2009, it was more likely because he commented about Adam, who was extreamly popular at the time.

  • loveroftalent

    Exactly…These are the hateful people judging Adam…They should look in the mirror…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Adam never mentioned Hugh or Russell, so people are putting their own names onto his comments, and that says alot.  People have read the critiques, and many who are commenting have seen the show.  If either of these guys had sung really well their names wouldn’t be foremost in others thoughts.”

    lol It’s not unreasonable to conclude by process of elimination who Adam was critical of in his multi-tweet review (since he praised others by name). Again, IMO the issue is not whether they sang well, but the personal attack.

    “Besides, these Actors took on the roles and they knew the risks.  Not everyone is going to applaud your abilities, and sometimes you are going to lay an egg.  Part and parcel of your chosen profession.  If these guys can’t take a little heat they are definitely in the wrong business”

    Totally agree. I certainly don’t feel sorry for any of these actors. Every time they appear in a film, they are opening themselves up to scrutiny. If they choose the wrong project, especially when singing ability is concerned, then they have to bear the consequences.

    “And, again, the bottom line for me is that Hooper messed up and took “singing” out of the equation.  That is who these Actors should be mad at.  His little untried experiment didn’t work and they came off looking the worse for wear…he should be the person who is getting the heat not Adam for commenting on the results.”

    Actually, according to wiki, the “live singing while acting” approach has been used before in films, but not in one with such a high profile. It does appear that for a number of reasons, Tom Hooper was an inappropriate choice to direct a film like this. TBH though, even if the tracks had been pre-recorded, I have a hard time believing that Hugh or Russell would have been able to sing their songs much more than adequately. I’m probably going to see the film today, so I will have my own opinion after then. :)

    Also, even in live performances, there are bad casting decisions that are made. For example, choosing Nick Jonas to sing the part of Marius in the 25th anniversary concert of Les Miz was a total joke.

  • Tess

    Totally agree about Jonas…that is why I still watch the 10th show!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I don’t  think that’s the reason that this is getting so much attention.  Part of acting is pretending.”

    True, but just as range in acting is limited by an actor’s ability/talent, their range in singing is also limited by ability/talent. In a role, it’s valid to criticize an actor’s ability to play the part convincing because the intent is to “pretend” to be someone else, a character in a story. Singing ability is different, but it’s also completely valid to criticize that ability. I still maintain that criticizing a person’s singing is very different from saying that they are “pretending to be a singer”.

    “The other thing that Adam said was that usually movie musicals aren’t sung live and the vocals are recorded in the studio, so this would take care of any vocal problems.  If anything this is a criticism of the director.”

    I don’t think so, or at least I get the impression that pre-recording the vocals would not have solved the problem. Yes, I agree that a lot of the problem lies with the director and his choices, but that is not where Adam directed his main criticisms.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yep. Me too. To me, the cast of the 10th anniversary show is the standard for Les Miz.

  • bridgette12

    What harsh personal attack on some of the cast? He only mentioned the people he thought were good. He never mentioned Hugh, Russell or some of the others by name. As for what the actors think, Hugh has already spoken and as one of those supposedly “hurt” by Adam’s harsh critique, he didn’t give a damn.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, but in certain circumstances, like Disney films for kids or to a certain degree, Spielberg’s movies (the Jurassic Park series, Indiana Jones films), it’s about the movie much more than the cast. Plus, at the time, Mary Poppins was revolutionary in that it was the first film to combine live action with classical animation. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “As for what the actors think, Hugh has already spoken and as one of those supposedly “hurt” by Adam’s harsh critique, he didn’t give a damn.”

    Hugh hasn’t responded to Adam’s comments.

  • bridgette12

    Then it must have been a mirage yesterday that a comment from Hugh was posted here. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Surely, you don’t mean that random tweet that wasn’t even from Hugh’s twitter? Do you mean this?

     Netiri?@_izla_zandzz:disqus 
    Examine Him: Contrary to media reports Hugh Jackman was not offended by Lambert’s remarks. “God, he’s a sexy fuck when he rants,” he said.

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/adam-lambert-on-les-miz-great-actors-pretending-to-be-singers.htm#comment-752268869

    lmao! That’s a joke tweet playing off of the long standing rumors that Hugh is gay.

    https://twitter.com/_izla_zandzz/status/285853482458685441

    Look at the responses. lol

  • loveroftalent

    This is so unbelievable what happened with comments to his fans on twitter…He didn’t trash the movie or anyone in it…With so many important things going on in the world, something so trivial in the grand scheme of things has gotten so many people riled up…

    The US won’t play his music, but if they can make something sound negative about Adam they are all over it…This all really sucks…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “This is so unbelievable what happened with comments to his fans on twitter…He didn’t trash the movie or anyone in it…”

    I think that this has all received far too much attention, but it is not true that he didn’t trash anyone in the movie. Adam likes to speak his mind and totally has the right to do so, but as with anyone who speaks their mind, others have a right to disagree with him and express than disagreement. I have a feeling that Adam is rather amused at all of the commotion surrounding his  comments. lol

  • bridgette12

    I agree he’s probably amused, wondering why people have their panties in a wad over his comment about a movie that’s been reviewed with acclaim and criticism by professional movie critics..

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh, I think that Adam is well aware of why his review got so much attention. ;)

  • snow_ghost

    I think the reason Adam’s tweets are getting so much attention is because 1) He is known as a talented vocalist, and 2) It seems like a lot of people are disappointment in the movie and Adam’s tweets sum up pretty much what is wrong with the film.  It is the big movie that was released this past week so the reviews are coming in fast and furious.  People want to talk about the film.  

    Now, with yahoo putting it out there, it’s easy for people to find Adam’s  “review” and discuss it.   People who have seen the film will probably discuss Adam’s tweets in regards to the actual film.    Those who do not like Adam, or perhaps are uberfans of Crowe and Jackman, will take Adam’s tweets more personally then I think they were meant.

    Personally, I think he should have rephrased a couple of those tweets, but I don’t see them as mean spirited.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” Those who do not like Adam, or perhaps are uberfans of Crowe and Jackman, will take Adam’s tweets more personally then I think they were meant.”

    I think that is being unfair and overly simplistic in attributing motive to responses to Adam’s review. I’m a fan of Adam, Hugh and Russell, and if someone had accused Adam of “pretending to be a singer” as opposed to not liking his singing, then I would regard that as a personal attack as well.

    “Personally, I think he should have rephrased a couple of those tweets, but I don’t see them as mean spirited.”Well, since Adam himself characterized his comments as “harsh”, then I think that he was well aware of the tone of his criticisms.

    Adam Lambert @adamlambert
    Sorry for being so harsh but it’s so True! 

    https://twitter.com/adamlambert/status/285531521954230274

  • loveroftalent

    SOrry I don’t agree…I think he would be very surprised his comments has gotten so much attention..And the nasty homophobic comments are just people that has already hated him.  That will never change.  He could save someones live and they would somehow find a way to discredit him…Would probably again say he did to get media attention..

  • loveroftalent

    Also Adam gets comments to him everyday that he can’t sing, he’s a failure, ready to be dropped by his label, he screams.  I certainly don’t respond to them.  I am a big Hugh Jackman fan also, Russel Crowe, not so much.

  • cam_lo

    I actually kind of agree–I thought most of what he said probably stemmed from a little bit of jealousy. 

    I read his comments before I saw the film, and now that I’ve seen it, I think he’s nuts. With the exception of Russell Crowe (who was pretty abominable vocally and brought the entire thing down a few notches), I thought everyone across the board was excellent. Literally no complaints. I was shocked at how harsh he was. “Bring Him Home” requires an insane range, and the fact that Hugh Jackman could do that live was pretty amazing. Same for Eddie Redmayne and “Empty Chairs and Empty Tables.” Such tough, tough songs to sing, and for me at least, they left nothing to be desired. 

    I did agree with Adam on the point that Trip Van Der Bilt was pretty stellar. 

  • cam_lo

    Russell Crowe was really, really, really bad. I almost feel bad saying that but his vocals were truly horrible. I don’t even know if studio-recording and “sweetening” would have made a difference. I thought everyone else was stellar though. 

  • loveroftalent

    You see it as jealously, I see it as him being disappointed in a movie about his  favourite musical/opera.  Simple as that…Why must some see him as always having another agenda…

  • snow_ghost

    See, I have to disagree.  I think most people really don’t care  what Adam thinks.   So those who get themselves up in a lather about his tweets, IMO, are doing so because they are having an emotional reaction to what he said.  Why do people have an emotional reaction?  It happens when they are emotionally invested.

    Also, just because someone is harsh doesn’t mean they are mean spirited.  Two different things.

  • cam_lo

    It’s my favorite musical too, and I was pretty damn satisfied. 

  • loveroftalent

    So maybe it was Russell Crowe that ruined the movie for him…but he didn’t mention names so that’s a good thing..lol

    I don’t know but this has turned almost laughable in a way

    He also said great emotional performances, but people will pick apart what they want to..

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “See, I have to disagree.  I think most people really don’t care  what Adam thinks.   So those who get themselves up in a lather about his tweets, IMO, are doing so because they are having an emotional reaction to what he said.  Why do people have an emotional reaction?  It happens when they are emotionally invested.”

    Oh, sure. Those responses that are overly emotional may be attributed to people being too invested, but there are people who disagree without having an emotional reaction (like me). The problem is when people who are overly invested emotionally can’t seem to see other valid POVs, and just chalk up any disagreement to fan wars or homophobia. Yes, some of the reactions are due to those reasons, but some aren’t and dismissing ALL disagreements as originating from those sources is incorrect and overly simplistic.

  • alterego

    IF Mr. Runner-Up of Season 8 was all that when it comes with musical theatre, why hasn’t he ever appeared on Broadway?  It’s not like that he has much going on career wise in the States.  Constantine Maroulis won a Tony nod.

    I’m with the theory that he put his name out there for Les Mis, but was rejected.  Bitter grapes for sure.

  • MellyPer1692

    I thought Hugh sounded bad on Bring Him Home, that song was not in his range and it showed. His acting was stellar though. Russell Crowe just sucked and was so miscast.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That’s too bad, since the role of Javert is an important one both from character and singing POVs. Although I’m a fan of Russell’s acting, I could sort of see this coming and wonder what possessed him to think that he could handle this role? Oh well. I’m hoping that the rest of the cast makes up for Russell’s shortcomings. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That song is a real bear to sing, even when it’s within the range of a stellar singer like Colm Wilkinson.

  • cam_lo

    Yeah, I was pretty bummed because “Stars,” weirdly, is one of my favorite songs of all, and his whole lobotomized delivery was just such a letdown. 

  • snow_ghost

    Oh, I think people can disagree with Adam and not be emotionally invested so I think we agree on that.    Those comments are fine and like I said, many people just want to discuss the film and may agree or disagree with his comments.   I enjoy reading those comments.

    That is why I referred to the people who get themselves worked up in a lather over his comments as being emotionally invested.  Either pro Adam or anti Adam.

    I don’t think I every used the word homophobic in my post so I’m not sure where that is coming from.  Just like people get tired of being accused of being homophoic if they don’t like Adam,  I think others get tired being accused of playing  the homophobic card when they state  they believe others are getting overly worked up over Adam and what he says and does.

    To be honest, on this blog, if people get in a tizzy over what Adam says, I think it has to do more with AI and other idols than anything else. LOL. And rightfully so, this is an AI blog. :) It’s what we do here.

  • MellyPer1692

    I think Adams pretty happy doing all the international concerts he’s doing right now in some pretty big venues. He has said that he loves musical theater, but for now he wants to sing and perform his own songs. Don’t think that’s so hard to understand.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, the emotional investment goes both ways. There are many who are saying the same thing who aren’t emotionally vested and they’re accused of simply being glamberts.

  • loveroftalent

    Another personal attack…ok

  • bridgette12

    Doing any type of touring is great and getting a chance to see different parts of the world is a learning experience both as an artist and as a individual. There’s some Idols that don’t get that chance at all to tour outside the US.

  • Jordana33

    Also Adam gets comments to him everyday that he can’t sing, he’s a failure, ready to be dropped by his label, he screams.  I certainly don’t respond to them.  I am a big Hugh Jackman fan also, Russell Crowe, not so much.

    Point taken, but when those comments come from another celebrity, many of Adam’s fans do take offense, as would fans of any artist.   Adam Levine made a lot of enemies for saying that a singer on The Voice probably sang “Whataya Want From Me” better than the original artist. He got quite the twitter attack from Adam’s fans.  I think it’s just natural for people to be more sensitive when comments come from other people in the business. 

    BTW, I watched some of the online clips of Les Mis, and I can definitely see Adam’s point about the singing, although I still think that calling someone a great actor pretending to be a singer is a bit harsh.  By process of elimination, it’s obvious that the only “great actors” that he could be referring to are Hugh Jackman and Russell Crow. I can’t see Amanda Seyfried’s character, Cosette, making or breaking his opinion of the show.

  • Montavilla

    Plus, at the time, Mary Poppins was revolutionary in that it was the first film to combine live action with classical animation.

    Invitation to the Dance (1956) had a long sequence in which Gene Kelly danced with animated characters.  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80D2n4gfqhM

    Twelve years earlier, he danced with the animated Jerry Mouse in Anchors Aweigh

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJzYKm1_Bvo

  • snow_ghost

    Why in the world was my response to Fuzzywuzzy deleted?   It was respectul and at the same time offered an opinion based on my observations to the many posts here.   Well, anyway, the posts by others you did not delete made my point for me.   LOL.    To be honest, I do sometimes see a bias with the moderating.   Sorry to have to say that.   But it is something I have observed over the years.  But hey, we are all human.   The blog still rocks.   :)  
     

  • gferna

    Happy new year to everyone!

    Well, at the end  the box office will tell the whole story. So far doesn’t look good. Just 18 millions, with that kind of cast.

  • mjsbigblog

    I follow this blog religiously and I don’t remember the press being all over Clay’s comments like this.

    Yeah…they were.

    If so, I’m sure you would have made it a topic of its own rather than burying it in a headline thread. In other news

    Not necessarily. I posted that particular item in headlines before it blew up, and then I kinda wished I had pulled it out, because the thread kinda got hijacked.

    I doubt the press would give a shit if Ruben or Ace or Lee Dewyze or Kris Allen voiced a negative opinion about Les Miz, and I think you know that as well as I do. 

    I would not be so sure about that. If any of those you mentioned said something negative about Idol, for instance, it would become a story with legs.  The press might not give a crap what those particular Idols think of Les Miz, because none of them have a background in musical theater.

    But, do you really think he orchestrated this? 

     I think he enjoys stirring up the pot, and at this point, knows how to get a reaction.  It’s not a bad thing, it just is what it is. I think he’s a savvy guy.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Please don’t question or discuss the motives of commenters here. It’s not the topic, ever.

  • bridgette12

    I haven’t see the movie, nor do I intend to. It’s just not my cup of tea. As for the box office take, it’s early yet and I don’t think anyone was thinking it was going to become a blockbuster like the Hobbit. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Since Adam is dishing out advice to highly accomplished film and stage professionals, perhaps he would be willing to accept advice from Constantine and Justin Guarini (and other Idols) on how to make the leap to Broadway.  With their experience, I’m sure they could teach him a few things.

  • bridgette12

    If he’s going to take advice about Broadway, he would probably get some from better actors than Constantine and Justin. Remember he has friends on Broadway that are a lot more successful than those two ever dreamed of being. Right now, he wants to sing his own music, the same dream that Constantine and Justin had at one time before they went to Broadway. 

  • Montavilla

    I’m with the theory that he put his name out there for Les Mis, but was rejected.  Bitter grapes for sure.

    Maybe someone familiar with the show/movie can tell me — what role would Adam Lambert have possibly wanted?  He’s far too young for either lead.  I’m not sure he’d consider himself believable as someone in romantic love with Amanda Seyfried.  So, is he supposed to be bitter grapes over not getting cast as Enjolras?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I”m not sure where you got that box office figure, but Les Miz has earned $66,720,160 as of Dec. 30, 2012 domestically, and $48,700,000 in foreign box office receipts, for a total of $115,420,160.http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lesmiserables2012.htm

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Oh c’mon, the broadway world is claiming him as one of their own and writing stuff about him and his vocal techniques until now. Even after his season ended some broadway producers were telling that if he wanted to try the broadway field he knows how to contact them.

    Adam said he was in musical theater for so long that he wanted to have his own music for now. But I think if he decides to be on broadway it wouldn’t be hard for him to get a lead role. And honestly he doesn’t need any advice from Guarini or even Constantine because he sings better than those two.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Sounds to me like a case of delaying the inevitable, lol… Broadway IMO will be where Adam ends up, it’s a no brainer, so yeah, I ain’t mad at him for riding this wave as long as he can, cause when the dust settles he’ll be Broadway or Vegas bound.  Dude has Broadway writ all over him, his music, his stage show, his stage presence and mannerisms so it really is a no brainer and will be no surprise when he lands there in a few years.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I guess that just doesn’t make any sense to me.  If Adam feels qualified to give out advice to people with more experience than he has, I don’t see a reason to reject advice from people with more experience.  Constantine has received critical recognition and knows how to make the transition from being labeled as a reality show loser to a successful stage performer.  It could be argued Justin overcame even more with being labeled a “joke” after AI.  Adam’s other friends didn’t come from a reality show background and all that entails.  I think their advice could be invaluable if Adam ever wants to be in an actual Broadway play.

  • alterego

    I agree, he is good at stirring the pot. It is also to bring attention to himself. IMO, if he had gotten the judge job on Idol or currently has a hot album charting, I doubt he would be taking the jobs overseas.

    Along the lines of advice, if any of the actors from Les Mis was going to get advice on musical theatre, it would come from people who have been successful at it. Hugh Jackman’s Broadway pedigree is very impressive. Adam Lambert is none.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    And I remember when Adam first used Twitter, Lea Salonga was one of the first few people he followed. Adam said she was/is his Broadway Idol and I think he just really, really love that musical and that’s how he had those reactions.

    Lea was being interviewed in Phillipines after Adam Lambert followed her and she said she had met him and he was a great guy.

  • Tess

    lets see…Eddie Redmayne and Hugh Jackman both Tony award winning broadway actors and we are to think that broadway is a come down.  on what planet?  Live theater is still the place where many, many talented people “choose” to perform, in fact most of the movie award winning actors have spent time on the stage, both in the US and Great Britain.  In fact, in some circles the stage is looked at as defining an actor, not a tv show or a movie.  Broadway is far from being a come down or the last resort, only for those who have no idea what it takes to perform live and to make that production believable.

  • bridgette12

    Sounds to me like he’s doing what he wants to do. If you have the opportunity to travel and sing, which is what he loves to do, why not do it. It’s not like Broadway is going to disappear and as you put it, it’s written all over him, then he shouldn’t have a problem of getting a job.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    Where did I say Broadway was a come down? Tis your own projections and inferences and who knew you were a budding mind reader? Tee Hee!

    What am I thinking now, lolol…  all I said was I.M.O Lambert is destined for Broadway… don’t hurt yourself trying to make more out of my comment than is necessary – TAINT THAT DEEP :0

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     That’s exactly what I said – let him enjoy his detour into the pop music scene for as long as he can make it last, cause his destiny will have Broadway looming large in it… ain’t nothing wrong with that, he’ll know when it’s time to make that move.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     That’s exactly what I said – let him enjoy his detour into the pop music scene for as long as he can make it last, cause his destiny will have Broadway looming large in it… ain’t nothing wrong with that, he’ll know when it’s time to make that move.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Adam was what, 27? when he went on Idol?  He never made it to Broadway before Idol.  A lot of Idols go on Broadway after Idol.  It’s called stunt casting.  The difference is that Constantine made himself a critical success even with a stigma hanging over his head.  I don’t think Adam would be poo-pooing advice from people who’ve actually done it.  Otherwise, it’s foolish of him to think he should offer advice but not take any.

  • alterego

    Sounds to me like he’s doing what he wants to do.

    What he wanted was to be a judge on Idol.  What he wanted was to have a hit album and be able to do a solo tour in the U.S. like he did after Idol.

  • newinNM

    I think this thread is almost done and so is the ever so awesome media blitz. :) My thoughts: It was just him tweeting about a movie he was disappointed in.  I don’t think he “personally” attacked anyone, had a hidden agenda or wanted to stir up trouble.  He didn’t like the singing of some of the actors, IMHO, it’s as simple as that.  He stated “great actors pretending to be singers” that’s exactly what they are, great actors (Jackman and Crowe?)  I don’t personally think of either of them as singers, they may be, but for ME they are talented actors.  I think Adam knows that whatever he tweets could be picked up by news outlets, and he knows “stirring the pot” can be a good thing.  On why media picked this up, lots of reasons, current popular movie, negative review, his musical theater background does make his opinion a tiny bit more relevant and he is somewhat well known.  I think it’s a combination of all the above.  As for Adam wanting a part in this movie, no way, when this was cast (probably 2010) he was coming off a very successful tour and starting the writing process for his second album.  He moved into a house with his current boyfriend and was pretty happy with life.  No way was he looking for a project like this at that time.  I think this kind of media reaction is great for his career.  If I were looking for someone for say a movie, TV show or musical performance,  I would want someone who could generate media interest.  This media reaction MIGHT make me give him a second look, it’s all good.   As far as negative homophobic or just plan ugly comments on articles and blogs (not this one of course) those are just negative peeps who have nothing better to do then search for articles to post their stupid comments.  It’s not like they have or ever will actually buy the album, see the movie or read the book.  They are commenting to see their comment and the reactions, ignore! 

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”IMO, if he had gotten the judge job on Idol or currently has a hot album
    charting, I doubt he would be taking the jobs overseas.”

    I don’t understand this statement. You mean if Adam’s album was selling better he wouldn’t be touring?

    I think with someone who has an album that didn’t quiet sell well and still touring ARENAS around Europe and Asia, he’s doing pretty great. Just imagine some Idols who would’ve want to have that opportunity but couldn’t even sell a hundred seats in his own country.

    I’m not slamming those Idols and I know many people dislike Adam but you couldn’t deny his success. His sophomore might not burning the charts liked his first one but he’s still one of the successful Idols we have. And besides Kelly and Daughtry(in smaller scale Carrie), Adam is the next one to have an international recognition and that is an achievement that most Idols wanted to have.

    I think he is the first Idol to have an arena concert in mainland China.

  • bridgette12

    How can he take advice from people who haven’t offered any about a hypothetical job that’s not real? 

  • milwlovesadam

    I’m still amazed at the traction this has. I honestly think that Adam just voiced his opinion as a trained vocal stage performer. All he did was put on twitter exactly what I have read in numerous reviews of the movie. 

    No, Adam never was on Broadway. But, according to Broadway World at the time he was on Idol, he had been in the top 3 contenders for the Spiderman lead. LOL. I think he’s doing much better on his own.

    Bringing in Constantine to this conversation, I think is irrelevant. I loved him on Idol, but,  Constantine has a  university degree in fine arts in theater. All going on Idol did for him was cement his career in theater. I saw him in the touring production of Rock of Ages. Yes, he’s a performer, and he was wonderful,  but he is nowhere the vocalist that Adam is. IMHO.

    Who knows where Adam’s career is headed. He has a huge international fanbase, his singles and albums sell extremely well overseas, he gets tons of radio play in Canada and Asia, he certainly has a future in fashion and photoshoots.

    Vegas? Maybe. Broadway? Maybe. A movie or TV opportunity? Gawd, I hope so.

    I will say this, inadvertent or not, boy sure gets his name out there.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”A lot of Idols go on Broadway after Idol.”

    And he didn’t? Because he was too busy releasing his debut album, then touring the US and international?

    Did Constantine even released an album? And those who stunt cast on broadway they were what like 5 years off of AI? I don’t think Clay or even JOrdin joined the broadway world in their 3 years after AI. They were so busy at that time to dedicate a time doing 8 shows in 7 days.

    Like some poster said, give him time and he’ll be a Broadway star in few years because it’s written all over him. And maybe if he finally do, he’ll not only be nominated but could actually win a Tony.

    That would be great, I just imagine ”A grammy nominee and a Tony Award winner”… hmm not bad, isn’t it? ;)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Huh?  I said if he ever wants to make the leap to Broadway he has others in the Idol universe who come from a similar background and can offer him valuable advice.  This isn’t some far out suggestion about something that could never happen.  Adam should be grateful that others who came before him already broke down those walls.  He isn’t above it all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jenny.williams.391 Jenny Williams

    I dont care for Le Miz or Adam’s opinion on this. I just gotta say, that it’s insane the level of attention he’s got for his tweets. The article on Huffington Post has well over 1000 comments, and it’s a mixed bag of people slamming him or agreeing with him. If only he could get this level of attention for his music. :/

  • mmb

    Idol was a surprise potential opportunity that sounded like fun and good exposure. It was hardly a pre or post Idol career goal that his management worked into his career plan.  No doubt Adam would have liked his album to sell more, but it was a #1 album, made a little history, and garnered great reviews from major music and mainstream publications like Billboard, Rolling Stone and People.  And there is no question that he could tour in the US if he wanted to — David Cook toured post album 2; kris allen and lee dewyze are touring the us now.  His one-offs in the US have sold well this year.  He would be touring internationally and doing similar international promo even if his album had gone platinum (fye sold well and he did lost of international promo and concerts thn too).  His management has decided to just do the international tour and then focus on creating new material.  Maybe that is what the label wants.  Maybe that is just more lucrative.  Doesn’t mean he won’t do any US shows in 2013.  Nor do I necessarily think that Broadway is in his future — maybe if the right role and the right time came around.  But it is hard to envision what that would be.  Now a solo Vegas show — with dancers, costumes etc.?   That I could see happening someday.  I don’t think his little Les Miz movie review has anything to do with his current career status,future career plans etc.  People are reading waaaayyyy too much into a little twitter rant.

  • Axxxel

    Strange but I cannot see him on Broadway… Maybe back in Los Angeles or in a touring company…. I remember seeing a video on youtube with 4 different actors (including Adam), doing exactly the same scene of Wicked. It was obvious who was the best singer but it was also obvious that Adam was not the best actor.
    I see him more maybe in Vegas or maybe when he is endorsing “a cosmetic line” or selling a “clothing line” and eventually hosting a (TV) music show…(like the VH1 one).

  • MellyPer1692

    What advice did he give?? He stated his opinion on the movie lol. Nowhere do I see “advice” to the actors in the movie.

  • loveroftalent

    I do value Adam’s opinion on many things, some I agree with some I don’t but I too think it’s nuts the media attention his tweets caused..

    And I will say again, I don’t believe for a minute that Adam posted them for any other reason than that he was disappointed in a favourite of his, no hidden agenda, no sour grapes, just having a conversation on twitter with his fans like he has done many times…

  • Axxxel

    No advice to the actors but to the director(s)…

  • loveroftalent

    I don’t see him giving advice either…I guess I missed that…People will always read into things what they want…Heard about a new headline that Adam demanded his money back after seeing the movie…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Adam wasn’t doing stunt casting. He was a complete unknown when he was performing in Hair and Wicked. Adam was part of a Broadway National Tour and a Broadway show that was popular enough to be a long term show in several cities across the US and around the world. Hair and Wicked were still Broadway productions:

    http://www.touringbroadway.com/

  • MellyPer1692

    I could see him on Broadway with no problem. I also could see him continuing to do pop music. His big shows are theatrical, but I’ve also seen him in a club setting and it worked there too. It’s nice that he has different facets to his performing skills, not everybody has that.

    For now, I love that he’s performing internationally in great sized venues. When he sold out big arenas in South Africa it was fantastic to see. His reception in China and Japan has been great too. So excited for those fans. Also excited for the Russian fans too :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    There is a list of artists who didn’t get the Idol job in the past three years. That doesn’t mean they can’t keep doing exactly what they were doing before they had talks with Idol. TPTB respected Adam enough to consider him in a group of many well known artists. It was a nice compliment and it got some positive press.

  • Axxxel

    Yeah, it is heartwarming to see that he was/is well received outside the USA !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    He pretty much spelled out what the director “should” have done to make the movie better.  Use studio trickery instead of live singing.  Otherwise, cast actors who “actually sound good”.  As for the actors/singers, that wasn’t advice to them unless he meant they should not have taken the roles.  It was a statement that they weren’t good enough to be cast.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    He hasn’t been on Broadway.  Being part of a touring company just isn’t the same.

  • loveroftalent

    Why not studio trickery…That’s what they play on the all radio stations.  It seems very accepted these days..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    He’s been part of a Broadway Touring company and part of a Broadway show that had homes in several cities. These were Broadway shows. Adam was a part of Broadway shows.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe the TV musical serie “Smash” should make a reality show to recruit new actors/singers to the TV serie… similar to the Glee Project and Adam could be a guest judge or mentor. He is not afraid to speak his mind.

  • seashellz51

    Awww Adam talking about Les Mis when he was 8 yo…..  http://www.womansday.com/life/entertainment/an-american-idol-mom-101969?click=main_sr

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Why would a guy who prides himself on his vocal ability and is clearly dismissive of actors PRETENDING to sing be a proponent of singers PRETENDING to be good at singing? 

    As an aside, there are people on the radio who are good to great singers, along with those who frequently go off key.  Just like it’s always been.

  • http://twitter.com/LaCingara Cingara

    Why in the world is Broadway being mentioned? Adam has repeatedly said he went on Idol to get a record contract, and was tired of being other people on stage. He wanted to be himself. I don’t think he has any interest in any musical stage work right now. And, he has always been marketed internationally which is why the int’l leg of the FYE tour was added and Trespassing int’l promo was planned up front. He probably made a good chunk of money from performing in 2012 without the grueling weekly plus matinee schedule of theater, and loves being in control.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    To say Adam hasn’t been on Broadway is not a personal opinion.  It’s a fact.  Broadway is Broadway.  A “broadway show” is not Broadway.

  • seashellz51

    I guess this disproves the theory Adam would have been afraid to speak his mind on Idol as a judge as some claimed…..LOL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    To say that a Broadway Touring Company or a Broadway show held in another city isn’t a “Broadway” show is your personal definition and one the theatre industry doesn’t agree with. There are “touring Broadway productions” in more than 240 cities across the US.
    Adam was a part of these “touring Broadway productions”.

    http://www.touringbroadway.com/

    Your personal definition not a fact, or The Broadway League would agree with you and they do not. 
    The Broadway League is the is the national trade association for the Broadway industry. Our 600-plus members include theatre owners and operators, producers, presenters, and general managers in North American cities, as well as suppliers of goods and services to the commercial theatre industry. Each year, League members bring Broadway to more than 30 million people in New York and more than 240 cities across the U.S. and Canada.

    http://www.broadwayleague.com/index.php?url_identifier=about-the-league-1

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    If any of the Idol alumni accomplish what  Constantine Maroulis has, they will be very proud of themeselves.  He is the only Idol to get a Tony nomination and may land another one.  I hope down the road, Adam will be added to that list.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I did not say Adam has not been in a Broadway “show”.  Plenty of people in local theatre have also been in Broadway “shows”.   That does not mean they have been on Broadway.  Otherwise, you could make all kinds of leaps and equate a student film with a theatrical release.

    Adam has not, in fact, been on Broadway.

  • roarpen

    Is this still being debated? *facepalm*
    Oh well, it’s some level of publicity. I restate my opinion that, whether he is wrong or right about the movie, it isn’t a great move to so publicly criticize peers or potential peers. I know he likes to have these discussions, but this debate is better for him to have amongst his friends and peers over drinks rather than so publicly on twitter, especially on a slow news day – lol. Negative news sells, not the positive – unfortunate but true. I wish him the best.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Picture of Adam with some fans in Bali airport. He is on his way(or he is already?) to Vietnam to do the Hennesy gig on January 4th.

    Indonesian Glamberts@AdamLambert_INA

    Indonesian Glamberts finally met Adam Lambert in Bali airport!!! #TheBestDay pic.twitter.com/gwfCkGLY

    @_AOStarlighter_

    o/ Congrats @adamlambert
    @unistartop20 Year end countdown; Trespassing #14, NCOE #6 & BTIKM
    #1!! so happy for your fans in BELARUS!!! x0x

    His concert in Minsk, Belarus will be on 15th of March.

  • Axxxel

    I remember very well an interview with Adam that I saw on youtube in which he stated that just in case he could not get a recording contract or in case he did not go too far in the American Idol competition, he hoped that his appearance/exposure on Idol might increase his chances to appear  on Broadway because he noticed that some Idol alumns did well on Broadway….

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    Why the heck does it matter whether “Mr. Runner Up of Season 8″ has been “on Broadway” or not?  Where, in any of Adam’s tweets, did he set himself up as He Who Must Be Obeyed because of his stage background?  If those reading his tweets want to attach more import to them because of his singing ability or his professional experience – or, conversely, if they want to deride him as being ~unqualified because he hasn’t literally stepped foot on a Broadway stage, or because he hasn’t done a movie musical, or because of what-the-hell-ever milestone he hasn’t achieved – it’s on them.  Not on Adam.

    He saw a movie.  He was disappointed in an aspect of the movie that is of great import to him.  Like millions of others do when they see a movie, or read a book, or hear a news story, he got on Twitter and shared his opinion.  Is anyone seriously arguing he isn’t qualified to do that?  Seriously?

    FWIW, he didn’t do Broadway because he chose not to move to NY to attempt to do Broadway.  Plain and simple.  There are many highly experienced, extremely talented stage performers who never step foot on a Broadway stage, and to minimize their accomplishments because of that is ludicrous. And also FWIW, the touring productions and sit-down productions of “Wicked” often traded off performers with the Broadway production.  Adam has said he could have had a track in the Broadway production had he wanted one.  He didn’t.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Local theatre, community theatres and school shows are not part of a Broadway Touring season. They are not listed as touring Broadway productions by The Broadway League. Adam was not in local theatre, he was part of a Broadway Tour and was hired on with a Broadway show. The Broadway League titles these types of shows as “touring Broadway productions”. The official national association for the Broadway industry calls these shows Broadway Productions, so that is what they are.

    Adam has, in fact, been in Broadway shows.

  • me4schur

    Being a long time fan of the Broadway soundtrack, I have to say that I think Adam’s statements about Les Miz were dead on. In fact, I thought he might have been listening in on my comments to my husband during the movie when I kept grousing about the inability of the singers to properly reach the low, medium, and high notes with that clarity which is so totally pleasing to the ear (even an untrained one such as mine) and which I had come to love and fully expected to hear in the Les Miz movie. The only song that left me truly satisfied was On My Own, during which I was thinking that this is what this movie should have been!  If someone such as myself who cannot really differentiate between specific notes was disappointed, I can only hazard a guess as to how disappointing the singing was to someone who has such a well-developed ear for music (in addition to a love for this particular score).  One last comment, even though the singing left me disgruntled at times (mostly), the acting was so emotionally powerful that I had trouble holding my sobbing back at the end, and so I left thinking that I had just seen a very good movie, but not, unfortunately, an exceptionally great one.         

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    “Adam has,in fact, been in Broadway shows.”

    You keep saying that.  I don’t see anyone arguing to the contrary. 

    That fact does not change this fact.

    “Adam has not been on Broadway.”

    You can say Adam has been in Broadway shows 100 times and I’ll agree with you every time. 

    Saying
    Adam has not been on Broadway is not an insult so I don’t know why you
    take such issue with it.  It’s a FACT, plain and simple.  He has never
    been on Broadway.

    Since you want to equate the two, are you
    really trying to say that being in a Broadway show and being ON Broadway
    are the same thing? 

    Based on that interview that was just posted, I don’t even think Adam would agree with you.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Once again,
    Adam wasn’t doing stunt casting. He was a complete unknown when he was performing in Hair and Wicked.

    Adam was part of a Broadway National
    Tour and a Broadway show that was popular enough to be a long term show in
    several cities across the US and around the world. Hair and Wicked were still
    Broadway productions:

    http://www.touringbroadway.com

    Adam has been part of a
    Broadway Touring company and part of a Broadway show that had homes in several
    cities. These were Broadway shows. Adam was a part of Broadway shows.

     He was part of a Broadway Tour and was hired on with a Broadway show. The Broadway League defines these types of shows as “touring Broadway productions”. The official national association for the Broadway industry calls these shows Broadway Productions, so that is what they are.

    http://www.touringbroadway.com/faqs

    What is Touring Broadway?

  • mjsbigblog

    The OP gets your point. It’s a matter of semantics. It’s time to move on now.

  • durbesque

    I have been on Broadway…. Surrounded by crowds, packed like sardines, moving along slowly, gaping at the sights and lights.

  • bridgette12

    Why should Adam even care if Constantine and whomever else went to Broadway, whether he goes or not? They are not his friends or even acquaintances that he would ask advice from. I don’t understand some people getting irritated that Adam is not being grateful to people who he don’t know for doing something that’s not a part of his life.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    Wow- after a flop album and three flop singles, he should really be worrying about his own career instead of trying to criticize others.

  • bridgette12

    That’s one good thing about the good ole US of A, we all have the right to state our opinion, you don’t lose it no matter how much or little money you have.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Because he said things like the following showing that he cared.  He clearly states that one of the reasons he went on Idol was because of the Broadway connection with previous Idols and because he wasn’t achieving the level of success he desired pre-Idol.   

    “I’d seen people that had been on “Idol” and were eliminated playing
    leads on Broadway, and I knew that’s the way New York is now. If you’re
    on TV and you’re a celebrity, you can get a lead in a Broadway show. I
    thought that’s what I should do because they don’t seem to want to
    promote me at “Wicked.” The worst-case scenario is that it would enhance
    my career in the theater and the best-case scenario is that I could do
    really well ”

    I don’t know why anyone would get irritated at the suggestion he take
    advice from those with a similar path and proven success on Broadway when that was one of his own chosen options and still could be.

  • loveroftalent

    And it is still his right to have an opinion…Maybe Adam has to dumb it down to be a hit, but then again what interviewers love about him is his personality and able to hold a conversation…They also all say how humble,  how interesting and knowledgeable of music he is…And that’s all types of music..I guess except rap maybe..

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    I’m sure he knows nothing about country music also.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    But if he’s playing the social media game, that’s exactly what he was doing.  ;)

    I’d like for him to really go out on a limb and judge Katy Perry or Taylor Swift’s live singing.  But maybe he has only paid attention to the emotional subtext of their music and ignored the singing?

  • loveroftalent

    Forgot that one, but he does know a great voice…Country or not..

  • bridgette12

    I don’t know why anyone would get irritated at the suggestion that he take advice from one of his friends instead of a former Idol that he don’t know “if” he ever decided to go on Broadway.  

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoria

    I wonder what is Lambert’s social media strategy? Sure, his rude comments will generate some buzz (mostly negative) and will rile up his existing fans to comment on various blogs.  However, it will not make him any new fans and will not encourage anybody to buy his music. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Well, I don’t either since I’m not irritated and to imply such is just funny to me.  Like I said before, his other friends didn’t come from the reality show background and have that stigma to overcome.  That’s why I say someone like Constantine or Justin could have some valuable advice to offer.  Things to avoid.  Or even just good networking connections for those who aren’t set against Idols.

    It’s not a gameshow.  He can talk to more than one person.  I’ve seen other Idols soliciting advice from fellow Idols. They’re like their own little networking group. 

  • suenigma

    Did I miss something? Did Constantine offer Adam some advice about Broadway and he ignored it or something? Adam is a pretty gracious and smart guy, and I cannot imagine that he wouldn’t be interested in hearing out a prestigously educated, successful, Tony-nominated, Broadway actor, who like himself, originated from Idol. As far as I know, none of Adam’s Broadway friends have that very specific, unique shared origin. I myself suspect that Adam would be grateful for support and words of wisdom from both Constantine AND his own Broadway aquaintances. Not sure why it has to be an either/or?

    Jayzus! Now I’m arguing hypotheticals…

  • HermeticallySealed

    Considering that the tweets weren’t nearly the ‘slam’ or ‘hate on’ that blogs are blowing them up to be, I can’t see them affecting anything one way or another.  Hell, most of the ‘fresh’ rated reviews on Rotten Tomatoes say the exact same things he does, and some of them actually put names to the bad singers. If the tweets would be a positive review by various movie review standards, why is it suddenly considered “rude” or a “slam” just because it’s him? 

    The only people who will be “turned off” by any of these tweets, are those who never liked him to begin with, and who would never have considered buying to begin with.  Those who are indifferent or do like him won’t care less.  Really, this is being portrayed so completely out of proportion it is laughable.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I personally agree with that for the most part, but some people don’t subscribe to that theory.  Some think any publicity is good.  That you can thrive on controversy.  I suppose because if people don’t know you exist they likely don’t know your music exists.  It’s all about exposure and what percentage you can get to look deeper.  If you aren’t getting attention for a performance, than maybe you try to get attention in other ways and being “controversial” is the easiest why to do it.

    If anything, it will probably increase his titter followers, which at least provides an opportunity to create a fan.

  • bridgette12

    I have to laugh at this discussion over a hypothetical situation dealing with Adam’s hypothetical job on Broadway and two people who no one really care about.

  • bridgette12

    Exactly, your arguing a hypothetical situation! 

  • lovetheusa1776

    Well, all I can say is that I hope Mr. Lambert offers as much entertainment for me in 2013 as he has in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. 

    Just love the guy.  Go, babe – tweet to your heart’s content.

  • bridgette12

    LOL! I just hope he don’t tweet he loved the movie Hobbits, but hated their hairy feet.

  • suenigma

    I could have sworn this hypothetical argument started long before my 2 cents were added, and included parties from both sides of the coin. At least I acknowledge the absurdity. Heh!

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    The tone of the thread is not the topic. Please don’t put words in commenter’s mouths.

  • Axxxel

    3 flop singles in which country ? USA ? Yes. Outside USA ? Not sure but there must be a reason why Adam will spend the first 3 months of 2013 touring in Asia and Eastern Europe.

  • Axxxel

    I think beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but also in the ears of the beholder… and also whether people are more inclined to enjoy more with their ears , their eyes or both. When watching a movie, I have to admit that I would enjoy more with my ears and really not too much pay attention to details of e.g. the characters wardrobe ..

    When I watch a movie, unconsiously I would pay more attention to the soundtrack or what the actors say. enjoyment for my ears…At the end I would praise the songs of the movie, while my  friends will give me a confused look  and give more praise on how the actors actwith their face, bodylanguage,what they wear or how the scenery looks like.

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    Good Lordy, it has been quiet here so I haven’t checked in a few days.  Adam tweets his personal opinion (which has been mirrowed, in reviews I have read and which is why I have hesitated to go to the movie.  I love the Les Mis Show and really do not those memories over layed with so-so vocals)

    Really, what is so wrong with Adam not enjoying some of the vocals and tweeting so?  Free Country, Free Speech and he also said many good things which are being over looked.

    Some I recognize as having previously stated they do not like Adam’s voice. Is it fine for us to critique vocalists on these shows as we do, but Adam can’t have an opinion?

    Well almost 500 comments and pages later, it still baffles me Adam can get this kind of response with a tweet about an opinion. 

     

  • milwlovesadam

    Okay. So. I just got back from seeing Les Miz.

    Adam was dead on right. IMHO.

    It was stunning in terms of costumes, staging, cinematography and acting. I wept the last half hour of it. It moved me.

    But, some of the vocals were so weak it was distracting. Some of the powerhouse songs ( I Dreamed a Dream, Take Him Home) were undersung for emotion instead of the powerful singing we have been used to. Movie vs. play, I get it.

    And the shaky in your face camera style made me motion sick at times. I think this is a good movie. But, as far as musicals go, this just isn’t something I want to watch over and over. Chicago? Yes. Dreamgirls? Yes. Mama Mia-Gawd No.

    So, this will join the ranks of a one time viewing for this fan of musicals and musical theater. I am glad I saw this though.

    Oh, and FWIW, I actually heard several people, including the lovely couple next to me saying that Javer/Crowe was miscast, couldn’t sing “worth a darn.”

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    Now even the stars of the show answer Adam.  And they do not disagree or take offense? 

    russellcrowe  (verified account)
    @Brunettemom123 @adamlambert I don’t disagree with
    Adam,sure it could have been sweetened,Hooper wanted it raw and real,that’s how it is.

  • Axxxel

    The first thing that came into my mind when I read Adam’s tweets was:”ouch he is not praising this seasoned actor/singer/Broadway guy Hugh Jackman” . But then later on when read in other people’s opinion in  this thread, I understood that Hugh was great in acting and not too bad in singing… but not a great fit …  for this SINGING role.

  • YankeeFan08

    And here’s a tweet from Russell himself:  “I don’t disagree with Adam”.

    https://twitter.com/russellcrowe/status/286268029417951232

    I guess he knows who Adam is after all, LOL!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Look at Russell.  Being classy about it.

  • seashellz51

    Well…looks like all the hand wringing was for naught….lol  The Gladiator has spoken.  :)

  • loveroftalent

    You know the more I think about it.  It really seems that US media go out of their way to make Adam look bad.  He said a few comments, big deal.  CB nearly killed a women, and yes the media was all over it, but the differance is they still play his music and have him perform at as many award shows as possible…

  • mmb

    Given that Adam has a top 5 platinum album, a top 10 album, and 2 top 5 platinum plus singles in Oz, has appeared in Oz tv multiple times, has been covered by the Oz print press, and has performed a number of concerts in Oz replete with huge billboards and newspaper advertisements I’ve no doubt that Russell does, in fact, know who Adam is

  • YankeeFan08

    I know, I know.  I was being sarcastic.  Many posters said Adam was “irrelevant” and “unknown”.  I have no doubt that Russell knows who Adam is considering the success he has had in Oz.

  • loveroftalent

    You say classy, I say major anger issues…But whatever…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I said he was being classy about this.  Not all performers refrain from lashing back when criticized harshly.  Where did he express anger?

  • loveroftalent

    Google him…lots of articles of his anger issues…Doesn’t take away from his acting ability though…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    I don’t need to google him.  I know he throws phones. He didn’t express any anger toward Adam, which was the point.

  • loveroftalent

    Sorry I comment you back that I did not mean anger towards Adam..  The post disappeared though…

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    fuzzywuzzy: “As for what the actors think, Hugh has already spoken and as one of
    those supposedly “hurt” by Adam’s harsh critique, he didn’t give a
    damn.”

    Hugh hasn’t responded to Adam’s comments.

    Hugh hasn’t responded but Russell Crowe has:

    Russell Crowe ?@russellcrowe@Brunettemom123
    @adamlambert I don’t disagree with Adam,sure it could have been
    sweetened,Hooper wanted it raw and real,that’s how it isVerified accountRussell Crowe @russellcroweolder than my children, younger than my parents,get the odd jobhere and there · http://murphsplace.com/crowe/main.html

     

    fuzzywuzzy 8 hours ago in reply to gferna
    I”m
    not sure where you got that box office figure, but Les Miz has
    earned $66,720,160 as of Dec. 30, 2012 domestically, and $48,700,000 in
    foreign box office receipts, for a total of $115,420,160.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/m

    ETA: The production of the movie cost $61 million, so the film has already earned back it’s costs

    No it has not earned back its cost yet — although it will probably be profitable in time. The box office receipts are gross and include the theater operator’s and distributors share (Universal). The $61 million is just production cost and does not include promotion, distribution, royalties, artists shares, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jenny.williams.391 Jenny Williams

    Maybe they should make Lambert an entertainment critic. I just did a quick Google search and found this story around the globe (even in Russia & Belarus). It seems it’s appeared on every site and each story has multiple comments where ever I look. even websites that usually get 0 comments per article are showing 60+ comments on them. It appears the review of one lone singer holds more weight than the reviews of every other critic around. lol

  • loveroftalent

    It’s been pretty crazy….

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here’s what I wrote:
    “The production of the movie cost $61 million“, so the film has already earned back it’s costs.”

    You responded:

    “The $61 million is just production cost”

    Which is exactly what I wrote.

    Therefore, no correction is required.

    Plus, the box office figures that I posted were as of Dec. 30, so are actually more than what I posted.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Well, Im glad this discussion is going on because I just saw Les Miz this afternoon with my sisters. It went as expected. My one sister and myself enjoyed every moment, were overwhelmed by the emotion, and walked out of the theater gushing about the whole thing. My other sister, the LM “groupie” if you will, loved the movie for many things, but the singing was not one. 

    My thoughts versus Adam’s? He is right to say the singing wasn’t a priority, but it didn’t need to be in most cases.  For example, Anne Hathaway’s “I Dreamed a Dream” was perfection even though her singing was quite different from what we come to expect from the stage stars.  She took a piece of music and turned it into such a sincere cry of pain that I doubt there was a dry eye in the entire theater.  Yet, she was not vocally pure.  I think Adam was mostly pissed off at the casting of Russell Crowe who was simply a poor choice all around.It’s not just that his singing wasn’t up to par, but he put no life into the tunes.  His acting was one-note. I completely disagree with Adam that Sasha and Helena were good.  They weren’t, but I mostly fault the director.  Could they sing? Sure. But, they were caricatures and cartoonish.  “Master of the House” is a show-stopper meant to make the audience want to laugh and cheer.  When I go see the movie again, I’ll probably use that song as an opportunity for a bathroom break as it really was dead weight. 

    Anyway, if you haven’t seen the movie, go! It’s worth the price of a ticket.

  • ANNIEBA

    Woah, can’t believe this is still going on. Nice to see the response from Russell Crowe though. RC is one of my favorite actors so this made me happy. I don’t for a minute think Adam planned or foresaw the reaction to his tweets so he must just be shaking his head right now, lol. But hey, maybe it will get a few people curious to check him out. The media seem to think Adam is pretty well known to have gone to town on this so it is still a good thing. The amount of comments on all the media is kind of astounding even if I don’t read them. I already know the kind of stuff Adam gets thrown at him. People sure get riled up over him.
    Adam is on his way to Vietnam, I believe. The love Asia has shown him is such a contrast to the negativity he gets here. He seems to be just adored over there, it warms my heart.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Hugh hasn’t responded but Russell Crowe has:”

    Yes, I read Russell’s tweet which had been posted by two posters an hour before you posted it for the third time.

    Russell’s a class act the way he responded to Adam’s criticism.

  • Axxxel

    I guess the people involved in this movie may have mixed feelings about Adam’s tweets and the resulting ‘discussion’ around it… On one hand I guess they may not be that pleased with  Adam’s opinion, on the other hand, it is still free publicity and it may make people more interested in the movie…

  • parsenip

    he probably considered his comments to be constructive criticism (or maybe tough love)

    Seriously?  Tough love?  I’m sure all the actors, producers, and directors would really appreciate that coming from him. 

    I doubt the press would give a shit if Ruben or Ace or Lee Dewyze or Kris Allen voiced a negative opinion about Les Miz

    Kris got several days press for his comment about Idol getting long in the tooth.  USA Today and everything.  If it’s coming from someone, anyone, well known saying something negative about something, anything, well known it gets press.  It isn’t an Adam thing, it’s an appealing to the lowest common denominator thing.

     

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoria

    Russell Crowe is a class act. Adam could learn from him.

  • Axxxel

    It is always easier to criticize onself.

    ETA Adam was also criticizing himself through twitter when he commented on his initial pitchy performance of a Madonna song on VH1.

  • Axxxel

    @MJ : technical question, after I posted it says 464 comments under  the login button, but 520 comments under the title of the thread.  ????

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Oh my lord have mercy! Yes. Russell Crowe. Known world-wide as a “class act.” *snicker* Sorry. I love the guy but let’s not carried away and reinvent his whole character just because he admitted his singing pretty much sucked. (Which it did. He would have a hard time denying that one.) Maybe you don’t know, but he is notorious for being quite the asshole and a violent one at that.

  • Nadine_Bitch
  • Nadine_Bitch

    My first thought when I read RC knows who Adam is was ”Should I fear for Adam’s safety now?”

    and yes, I’m only JOKING! But RC was known to be a ‘Hot Tempered’ man.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Twitter conversation from Les Miz fans:

    Person #1- Who’s Adam Lambert?

    Person #2- Some dude that won American Idol.

    Person #3- Should I care?

    Person #2 – Google him.

    Person #1- OK. He’s also the lead singer of Queen (link) lol

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    HA! I know! Of course, Russell would have to throw phones and baby clothes at pretty much the entire world if he wanted to go after everyone who thinks his singing sucked in Les Miz. He’d probably rather just drink and play rugby with his pals and call it a day.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Kris got several days press for his comment about Idol getting long in the tooth.  USA Today and everything.

    Yeeeessss. And as a former Idol winner, his comments regarding the show would be media worthy. But, what I said was no one would give a shit about what he said about Les Miz, positive or negative. And I stand by that…. because it’s true. And now I feel guilty because the guy was in a serious accident that could have been fatal plus he has a baby on the way. Thanks for the guilt trip, Parsenip!! ;) ;)

  • Axxxel

    LOL…as an Adam Lambert fan I guess I am totally not very aware of all the e.g Broadway feats of Hugh Jackman either. I only know that he once played in a cheesy romantic movie  comedy, that he plays in an action movie wolverine (X-men), that he hosted the Tonys and did a hilarious duet  with Neil Patrick Harris when the latter hosted the Tony’s in 2011…  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqJxyuTMMog .That's is all I know…

  • HKfan

    I know amazing, some of the sites have nearly a thousand comments……..with about 80% attacking Adam , and 20% discussing the movie…
    And it seems that many of the commentors that have watched the film actually agree with him.

  • HKfan

    I found those 2 cartoonish in Sweeney Todd too, especially Sacha B Cohen, couldn’t take his character seriously at all.

  • Axxxel

    I love the “Pop that Lock” performance… I like the dancers and the background singers… cute and camp…

  • lovetheusa1776

     The 80% – are they attacking his comments or him personally?  Thanks.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Yes! And thank you. That’s exactly what I was trying to say. Both Sacha and Helena were play-acting. Sacha was absolutely miscast. (And Adam was totally and completely wrong about his performance as it really sucked. So, Adam doesn’t know it all. But, I still love him.)  Helena is a brilliant actress, so I have to believe she was misdirected here. At the same time, the film didn’t really leave room for comic relief like the stage version does. It probably would have been best to cut “Master of the House” and make the innkeepers a bit part. 

  • mjsbigblog

    I keep an eye on all the sites and celebrities. I’m not interested in just one. And from my observations, the press glomms on to ANYTHING that has the potential to  spark outrage. 

    In fact, if Kris were to ever criticize the singers of Les Miz, I would expect the backlash to be worse, because he has NO background in musical theater whatsoever.

  • HKfan

    mainly him personally, 

  • HKfan

    I haven’t actually seen Les Mis, I was referring to them in Sweeney Todd.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Hmm. Well, I have to say that makes sense, MJ. There might be more room for outrage, which means more hits and comments, if someone with no background made a public commentary. But, I think it would only happen for Kris if he said something in a professional interview rather than him making a casual comment on Twitter. I might be completely wrong about that.  (I know Kris isn’t the topic, but he seems to have crept into the discussion. So, I guess I’m still on safe ground??) I know you believe Adam sought out this media attention himself. Personally, I do not, but, it’s possible you are right. The thing is, if Adam did deliberately seek it out, it worked. He GOT the media attention. I don’t believe for a minute the same thing would happen for Kris.  Kris is a cool guy and all that, but, the media is just not that into him. And that’s okay. He’s a quiet, home-body type of guy whose career trajectory does not require a media onslaught. Basically, this is the difference between the two of them. They are both good guys. But, they follow different paths. 

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    If you go to see Les Miz, take a popcorn/bathroom break during their big scene. I think Hooper made a massive mistake casting them. Helena is a brilliant actress but it’s almost like he let her go wild and do her own thing, which is probably not a good thing with her.  Sacha, on the other hand, was just plain awful. Why was he even there?  It’s my understanding the auditions were grueling. So, how does that explain Russell, Sacha, and Helena? 

  • http://twitter.com/Joko54 Jo Kolz

    nvm

  • http://profiles.google.com/sandee1225 Sandra Smith

    Wow . . . . thanks for clip . . .Loved it!

  • http://profiles.google.com/sandee1225 Sandra Smith

    It’s called “passion”  sometimes Adam lets his passion for things get out of control

    but it’s a good thing . . . .probably thinking of his friends who have the vocal ability to sing but never get the chance . . . . I love his three best lady friends and they are very talented…

  • lovetheusa1776

    A post was put up of an older interview with Lambert’s mother, Leila.  In the article, Leila states that she took Adam to see Les Miz when he was eight years old and mentions his strong reaction to it, particularly the staging.  So this musical is something Adam’s loved for over twenty years.  This may help to explain his strong reaction to the performances in the movie.  Also, when asked to describe her son in one word, she answered “honest.”

  • Axxxel

    And after all these discussions… let’s enjoy some youtube video’s of Adam Lambert singing in Bali …
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNVHtdEK5s

    All these people standing in front of the stage,.. I guess the people who paid for those expensive seats at the front roundtables may be annoyed…

  • Axxxel

    obviously Adam hasn’t led a New Years Eve countdown yet… then again… all in good fun…

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.
  • loveroftalent

    Thanks for posting this amazing review…I was wondering how it had went…Glad to hear Adam and band slayed it yet again…And also love that reviewer focussed on Adam’s amazing vocals..

  • loveroftalent

    That article was a good read…Explains Adam’s passion for Les Miz, if anyone is interested and would like to know more..

  • Axxxel

    Nice and fair article… Maybe because it addresses first the prejudice people might have towards a reality show alumnus…and it also mentioned briefly about the round table seating arrangement.

    Still , I wonder how the people who paid USD700 something for a ticket, must have felt about people who paid USD100-200 less and were able to stand in front of the stage…

  • KW8

    Too bad Adam’s music doesn’t get as much notice as his criticism of others that are more successful than him. Some people get more successful by bashing others, Adam isn’t one of them. He needs to focus on his own career more, instead of criticizing others.

  • Axxxel

    He could combine both though… career and criticizing, if he is a judge or a mentor on e.g. American Idol… He was guest judge on e.g. Project Runway (fashion reality show) and mentor on Majors and Minors (reality singing show in which the contestants are children). 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Oh my lord have mercy! Yes. Russell Crowe. Known world-wide as a “class act.” *snicker*”

    lol I’m well aware of Russell’s colorful history of incidents regarding his rather infamous temper, but maybe even more so, that’s why I thought that his tempered response to Adam was professional and classy. Maybe, Russell has been taking anger management classes (and they’ve been working?). lol