This recent Adam Lambert interview with the Ralphie radio show out of Wilkes-Barre, PA revealed a few interesting tidbits:

  • No title for the album yet. Adam’s got about 20-24 tracks so far to narrow down to 12.
  • Adam reached out to Lady Gaga about a possible collaboration on his upcoming album–she’s a big fan. Unfortunately, their schedules didn’t mesh. “Who knows, maybe there’s a surprise around the corner,” says Adam, mysteriously.   Adam is working with Gaga producer RedOne.
  • Adam has no idea who Kevin Griffin is!
  • Elton John is the most famous person in Adam’s phone contacts. He would not elaborate. Hm.

Listen below!

 
  • luvadamlambert

    Thnx 4 posting this mj!!!! although it’s already been discussed.awesome! I need my Adam fix.btw I couldn’t get into the site for a while-just me?

  • luvadamlambert

    Also thank god for YouTube:D

  • Susan M.

    Hi Luv! :waves: Finally got back and MJ not working at first :- (

    Great way to come back! Adam freakin’ rules. Only he can smack down Griffin and still seem like a sweetheart doing it. His smile comes across so much in his voice that I can’t listen to his interviews at work because I sit there grinning like an idiot. God forbid someone walks by.

    Will be catching up with Headlines …

  • luvadamlambert

    The interviewer dude did HIS HOMEWORK!!!!! speaking of homework…ahem.whatevs. I have all weekend.I’ll do it tommorow….:/

    brb dying hearing Adam’s voice and seeing those pictures:0

  • luvadamlambert

    hi susan m!!!!!!!!!!!! : D. <3

  • koukitaa

    OMG,I like it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thank you so much Mj

  • Adamme

    Hi Luv.. how are you? and where’s everybody? Wow.. I usually come very late to the party..

    Love the interview and loving this Ralphie guy for asking about about Kevin who? And Adam’s respon to that question…

    “I don’t know who Kevin is”

    HAHA Kevin .. I wonder if Adam read what Kevin said about him back in May…. hhmmm.. somebody must’ve told him.

  • luvadamlambert

    Hi adamme <3 I'm good,you?:)

    there's probably not going to be that many comments here because of the site outage later and it's already been extensively discussed all day in AT LEAST 2 other threads…

  • CindyM

    Love the interview, he sounds a bit mischevious when talking about both Lady Gaga (surprise??) and Elton John. Susan, you’re right, he does have a way of speaking that makes you think of him smiling.

  • adamland

    Hi Luv

    Great interview! Love Adam’s smackdowns!

  • Tess

    When I listen to an Adam interview I am constantly amazed at how easy it seems for him. Sometimes it takes years for a celebrity to feel at ease giving interviews, even very good Actors tend to hem and ha at the best of times.

    Besides, he makes it so easy for the interviewer. He elaborates on the questions, flushes them out, and oftentimes leads you right into the next question. I don’t think I have ever heard him be rude or curt and if he doesn’t want to answer something he is very upfront about it without embarassing the person asking the question.

    I would love to sit down with him and just discuss a ton of misc. things. I bet he has something to say about everything but will be quick to say he doesn’t know (sports) and won’t try and pull the wool over someone’s eyes.

    I have this feeling that when he starts to do radio marketing for his singles and albums that there won’t be a lot of really trite questions. He tends to make even the dumbest interviewers seem relatively with it. ;)

    Luvie, get your homework done early so you can join us on the blog!

  • snuffles

    Just to clarify, I THINK he said “At this point we have about 20 – 24 tracks”. Meaning, I think they might record more after the tour ends.

    I too think he might have something up his sleeve that involves Elton John. And if he and Lady Gaga can’t find time to record a song together, then maybe later they can PERFORM together! My fantasy right now is that they team up at the American Music Awards this November!

  • luvadamlambert

    Hi adamland!!! yup I can picture Adam smiling…brb dying AGAIN..thanks for nothing guys;)

  • lovingadam

    Adam is amazing!!!
    Love all his interviews!!!

  • Adamme

    I wonder how Adam got Elton’s contact number? It’s impossible if he asked around, but it’s possible that Elton’s people that reached out to 19E & Adam.

    Elton & Adam .. collaborate and perform together on the same stage…. ;)

  • dietcoke

    An Adam and Elton John collaboration will be epic. Elton John is a genius and legend!

  • suebrody

    Maybe Adam sounds so enthusiastic because he is talking to someone knowledgable who also did his homework! What a concept! I really like this interview, but I want more on Elton. Did you know he played on the Timbaland track “One Man Show’ off Tim’s last album? Fall Out Boy was on there, too, so who knows? Now I want Adam and Timbaland to collaborate! ;)

    I think everyone is tired from posting so much today, ha ha. I am still curious: Is MW confirmed as the theme song, or whatever it’s called, for FastForward? Whether it is or not, Adam’s career is already taking off.

  • luvadamlambert

    Elton john MUST be a legend becuz even *I * know who he is.LOL.

    bye guys.I have to do homework for this class tommorow.bye.I’ll try to lurk for like a minute later.:/

  • Teri63

    I have this feeling that when he starts to do radio marketing for his singles and albums that there won’t be a lot of really trite questions. He tends to make even the dumbest interviewers seem relatively with it.

    I can’t wait to see Adam do some of the big daytime talk shows, like Oprah and Ellen, as well as the late-night shows. With his great sense of humor, I’d love to see him match up with David Letterman or Conan!

  • luvadamlambert

    Suebrody I think someone (susan m? sorry I don’t remember…) that it wasn’t used in the actual show.think she saw an advance screening or something.more in headlines.

    shit.I really have to go now…:(

  • Teri63

    I definitely think he has something in the works with Elton John, the way he left us kind of hanging with his “nuff said” comment. If he doesn’t tour completely solo on his first round, my dream is for him to be back-up for Lady Gaga.

  • Tess

    I agree with a post made on the headlines thread concerning Adam and Elton. I would guess that Elton (as musical savvy as he is) probably heard about Adam through a friend (the publisher of RS maybe) and, gracious man that he is, he probably took the time to contact Adam and talk to him about his sojourn into celebritism.

    If anyone knows the pitfalls of being a gay man in the music industry it is Elton. If that actual happened I don’t think there is a better “personal” mentor to have. I love how frank Elton is and how open…the same way Adam was during his RS interview. Lay it all out on the table and then people can see who you are…they can decide then and there whether to support you or to ignore you.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I think Elton has always paid attention to Idol. He famously claimed America was racist for the three divas being in the bottom 3 in Season 3 (I didn’t watch that year, but I heard about it). Who knows? I’m guessing he probably has seen the show and sent a congrats to Adam. I wouldn’t necessarily think that means a collaboration, but who knows?

  • snuffles

    pj
    September 11, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    I think Elton has always paid attention to Idol. He famously claimed America was racist for the three divas being in the bottom 3 in Season 3 (I didn’t watch that year, but I heard about it). Who knows? I’m guessing he probably has seen the show and sent a congrats to Adam. I wouldn’t necessarily think that means a collaboration, but who knows?

    Yeah, I’m sure he does follow Idol; but how many of them can say they have Elton John’s personal PHONE NUMBER?

  • EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis

    Hi Luv!

  • hwc

    That was a great interview. The interviewer had done his homework and was firing the questions at Adam. Adam was answering them fast and furious. Terrific. Much better than the usual Idol bubble interview.

  • BestAI

    I thought it was perfect timing that the interviewer brought up Kevin G. Do you think he wanted a reaction because of what Kevin said back in May? I loved Adam’s response. How is he so good with some of those difficult questions? Susan, like you, I always end up smiling after an Adam interview.

  • EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis

    That was a great interview. The interviewer had done his homework and was firing the questions at Adam.”

    Finally, someone asks him about having to do damage control with his family re: revealing so much in the RS interview. I wondered this very thing upon first reading the article. Of course, all subsequent interviewers latched on to the ‘crush’ thing ad nauseum and no one asked what one would think would be the natural follow up questions.

    ETA: to fix control

  • clearone

    Elton John….hmmm……

  • listen

    This was a wonderful interview, full of exciting new Adam-tidbits.

    Adam (and Cook) seem to be an interviewer’s dream. I have only watched S7 and S8 but those two are just fabulous interviewees.

  • Susan M.

    I wonder how Adam got Elton’s contact number? It’s impossible if he asked around, but it’s possible that Elton’s people that reached out to 19E & Adam.

    I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Elton called him. Elton is a notorious fan of young talent (he was lovin’ him some Joss Stone before most of the U.S. heard about her) and “introduced” her to the U.S. market at his Oscar night AIDS benefit (yes, she had play before, but this was a stellar endorsement).

    I have no doubt he would reach out to Adam, if not for his talent (that surely he knows about), but his courage to come out so publicly. Elton went through tremendous torment having to fight and hide and closet who he was in the light of his celebrity. He has said repeatedly that many of his demons were rooted in those struggles. As Ellen said of Adam, “I am so proud of him for doing it.” [coming out publicly].

    @suebrody, I screened the premiere of “Fast Forward.” It’s awesome, but “Mad World” is not used at all. Sads. But there is only a snippet of one song (I did not recognize it) towards the end. I was getting all agitated because I thought it was the last scene and this OTHER song was being used ‘“ WHAT?. It was very quick though.

    In retrospect, the show is sooo much about the characters and was already gut-wrenching by then. Doing a montage with MW (or any powerfully emotional song) would have been too heavy-handed. They established an anguishing situation fraught with emotion no one has ever experienced. As much as I hate to say it, “Mad World” would have been melodramatic in the context.

    There is no theme song. The opening is a very quick (like LOST) swoosh/swoosh, and the title. The end music is a very sparse, simple piano as I recall.

  • BestAI

    Elton John: Elton must have gotten Adam’s number from someone he knows who knows Adam. If Elton just called to say “Congratulations,” Adam would say so. I also think Elton could have done that in a different way w/o divulging his personal number. There must be something more to it. Just like when interviewers asked Adam about Madonna. He talked about their conversation (“the prize” comment). So Adam responds with, “Nuff said.” Hmmmmm we need to interpret that by getting into Adam’s head.

  • alison8701

    I thought the “Nuff said” comment just meant like “Really? Need I say more? It’s Elton Freakin John. Who cares how/why I have his number. I got it. Nuff said.”

    side note, Elton John did a christmas song with The Killers, Joseph, Better You Than Me, and to me, it looks as if he totally took the reigns on it. It’s more like Elton John feat. The Killers. Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys is also in it. But it’s really not a fantastic song.

  • Maria22

    Thank you for posting that interview! It wasn’t a snoozer like some of them can be when the same questions get rehashed for the millionth plus time…Plus the photos are exquisite !

  • Teri63

    If Elton just called to say ‘Congratulations,’  Adam would say so. I also think Elton could have done that in a different way w/o divulging his personal number.

    This is my thinking, too. When Adam talked about his contact with Caty Perry, for example, he said that she contacted him and gave advice about coming into fame so quickly. He’s being cryptic about Elton John for some reason. And, he didn’t HAVE to divulge that Elton was even a personal contact for him. He could have said any name he wanted to and no one would have been the wiser. I might just be reading into this, but for some reason, I felt like he wanted to create a little intrigue.

  • suebrody

    Thanks, Susan. Despite the absence of MW (aw), I am really looking forward to FF. I get lots of happy happy from Glee and SYTYCD. I can use some angst in my nighttime viewing. The Red Sox are also there, but only until the mid- to -end of October.

    I think it’s very cool that Adam and Elton have some sort of professional relationship. A collaboration between Adam and Elton (Alton?) would blow.my.mind.

  • hwc

    OK. A collaboration with Elton John would be problematic because of competing labels, so I wouldn’t get too excited about that.

    Elton John has a history of reaching out to young artists. He contacted Ryan Adams after Adams’ first solo album Heartbreaker was released. Elton John performs one of the songs from the album, did an episode of CMT Crossover with Adams, introduced Adams to Bob Dylan and generally took him under his wing for a time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0i4w0aYneI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDaigmuR7fg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQYLSYdm-8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qFJ4UaSZ34&feature=related

    There are obvious things they have in common that might prompt Elton John to reach out to Adam Lambert and offer some advice.

  • karenw

    Perhaps Elton want’s Adam to star in some sort of glamorous, glittery remake of “Billy Elliot” .. lol

    .. oh and who’s Kevin Griffin? .. I don’t know who he is either … we haven’t heard of him in the UK .. but we’ve heard of Adam Lambert …

  • sidewalkstory

    I see Elton as a mentor of sorts at this time. Adam’s first priority is to get his album finished. I don’t see any collab’s in the near future.

    Will Elton be at Simon’s birthday bash that I’ve read about? Will Adam be invited? Anything is possible.

  • karenw

    Will Elton be at Simon’s birthday bash that I’ve read about? Will Adam be invited? Anything is possible

    .

    Yup .. Elton’s been invited … wether he goes is another thing but he’s never been one to turn down an invite to a big party so he may be there … all the artists on Simon’s record label have supposedly been invited .. not sure how Adam fits in with that one and the US/RCA link to Sony UK

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/09/08/simon-s-top-50-115875-21656417/

    oh and if Adam’s going to do anything with Sir Elton can it be a remake of this please?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Fa4FUYCsU&feature=related

  • EmoElvisSpikeyMessyElvis

    “I see Elton as a mentor of sorts at this time. Adam’s first priority is to get his album finished. I don’t see any collab’s in the near future.”

    This is my thinking, too. Perhaps Adam was being honest in answering the question of the most famous phone contact but did not want to divulge the nature of their conversations (especially as he does not want to be a soapbox-y civil rights proponent – he gets his points across in other ways).

  • SCORPIO14

    I agree with Tess regarding Elton & Adam. Hopefully Elton is somewhat passing the “torch” at this time in his life and can offer Adam alot of advice on the pitfalls he had encountered and hopefully how Adam can avoid them. Also, saw an interview with Elton sometime ago about his personal relationships and about how many “losers/moochers” he had relationships with before he me David who was and still is successful in his own right. Happy to hear that apparently Adam can call Elton if ever he feels the need arises!!! Love them both. But hope Adam, when he starts his own tour, does not wear the wild costumes like Elton did in his hey day. Hope he stays true to himself as he seems to have done so far.

  • snuffles

    I hope Elton is mentoring Adam. I’m sure his advice would be invaluable to Adam.

  • karenw

    I somehow can’t see Adam dressing up like a chicken or Donald Duck on his tour .. I think if he wears any sort of OTT costumes they will be in the style of Lady Gaga … glamourous, dressy up but still cool and sexy .. like his AI tour outfit.

  • sidewalkstory

    hwc, thx for the music links. I was going to catch up on some recorded shows on my DVR but am enjoying the music instead.

    ETA: forgot to mention that Bob Dylan is one of my all-time fav’s, prob my all-time fav. But he never captured my heart like Adam.

  • SCORPIO14

    Regarding the TV show “Fast Forward” – no MW – but would they not have to have Adam’s permission and compensate him for using his version of MW on the program which would involve contracts etc. Maybe they just decided not to use MW after all. Guess we will see when the program actually premiers.

  • SCORPIO14

    karenw – I was in high school and remember the videos on MTV of Elton in the crazy bird/chicken costumes. You are probably right, Adam with go the Perry/Gaga route like he has done for the tour.

  • karenw

    Scorpio14 – yeah I think Elton’s OTT costumes were more of a play on the glam rock scene at the time … the huge platforms .. so Elton had to have the biggest … the wacky glasses etc … the glam rock fashion was a bit OTT and
    naff in parts with the huge shoulder pads … Bowie could pull it off and still look cool but Elton just had to take it that step further.

    I see Adam dressing up but being really cool with it …lol

  • Susan M.

    oh and if Adam’s going to do anything with Sir Elton can it be a remake of this please?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Fa4FUYCsU&feature=related

    @karenw. LOL!! Holy hell, that is so fucking Elton, but unfortunately that Elton was a little before my time. I don’t know that I really GOT his stage show in the early 70s (was a kid), but wow! Wild.

    It’s been so long that I’ve been only listening to him on CD or MP3 (the FIRST artist I uploaded with Queen and the only albums I can listen to ad nauseum before Adam came along …). I completely forgot how incredible his stage performance is. What it’s about people. (Well, maybe not quite THAT much …) but theatrics have a place that have no detraction from talent.

    When people give the lame-ass critique, “If he was good, he wouldn’t need all those theatrics …” I need to have Elton’s chicken performance on speed dial.

    Classic.

  • sidewalkstory

    Regarding the TV show ‘Fast Forward’  ‘“ no MW ‘“ but would they not have to have Adam’s permission and compensate him for using his version of MW on the program which would involve contracts etc. Maybe they just decided not to use MW after all. Guess we will see when the program actually premiers.

    Anything Adam did for Idol is property of Idol and can be used at any time. So Adam would get nothing. I have excerpts of an old season’s contract somewhere. However, MW belongs to Tears for Fears and I would expect if MW is used for the TV show, the TV show pays Idol, and Idol pays royalties to Tears for Fears.

  • karenw

    Then of course who could forget Elton in the rock musical film Tommy?

    Pinball Wizard .. I can really hear Adam singing this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHxpy7O004s

  • Susan M.

    Regarding the TV show ‘Fast Forward’  ‘“ no MW ‘“ but would they not have to have Adam’s permission and compensate him for using his version of MW on the program which would involve contracts etc. Maybe they just decided not to use MW after all. Guess we will see when the program actually premiers.

    Yes, it is still major that he is in the teasers and trailers. They will have ran for two months (or more) by the time the show finally airs. And ABC would have had to actively license it from FOX.

    My knowledge of licensing and residuals is a little limited, especially when work is created for another entity (i.e., AI/Fox). And the artist can, at that time, be considered an employee.

    I know (through this forum) that the performers do get royalties for their iTunes sales, but I am not positive that the licensing of “Mad World” wouldn’t fall under the “creative work as an employee” clause for Fox.

    I’m wondering if those are the intricacies of the AI hydra that none of us really can begin to understand.

  • sidewalkstory

    Pinball Wizard .. I can really hear Adam singing this

    Adam would have to use his falsetto for this and I’ve never seen him sing fast songs with it. Not that I’ve noticed, at least.

  • iluvai

    When I listen to an Adam interview I am constantly amazed at how easy it seems for him. Sometimes it takes years for a celebrity to feel at ease giving interviews, even very good Actors tend to hem and ha at the best of times.

    Besides, he makes it so easy for the interviewer. He elaborates on the questions, flushes them out, and oftentimes leads you right into the next question. I don’t think I have ever heard him be rude or curt and if he doesn’t want to answer something he is very upfront about it without embarassing the person asking the question.

    I totally know what you mean. I love that about him.

  • iluvai

    I just listened to the interview. dear g. He is so so amazing!!!

    “Be an open book.” Love that!!!!!!!!

    “Enuf said!!!” (That’s like my dad’s favorite saying….)

  • alxsavage

    I had read the Kevin Griffin MTV interview before, but has Kevin said anything insulting about Adam before?

  • Susan M.

    Wow, and about Elton (thanks karenw for that Pinball Wizard clip). I wasn’t going to go there initially because I thought it was just a too campy place from my childhood and I don’t usually enjoy watching circa 70s videos.

    But that is amazing. It’s campy, to be sure, but not nearly as campy as it’s trying to be. Which means, to me, they are emitting substance either way.

    A couple of morning DJs (who’ve been around fro 20+ years) were talking not long ago about Elton John saying that he doesn’t get enough credit as a vocalist because everyone thinks of his piano skills first. I totally get that now. His piano skills are insane. His stage performances are outrageous. But at the end of the day (and it’s more about passion and inflection particularly) he is one of the world’s all-time great vocalists.

  • Susan M.

    I had read the Kevin Griffin MTV interview before, but has Kevin said anything insulting about Adam before?

    In a word: Yes. I was going to go back and find the thread to the link from last weekend for you (seriously, MJ, I was), but then I thought, how in the world are you going to find the comments in all that drama?

    Short story: Kevin Griffin did an interview with MTV around May and basically said, “Adam should go to Vegas and be a cross-dressing Cher impersonator …” (that’s the pretty version). He loved Kris.

    Cut to late August/early Sept. 2009: Kevin Griffin did an interview where he said he claimed to be writing songs for Adam because they were going to have huge international scope. Kris who? He made it seem like he was being commissioned by 19 and he said the “sound” of Adam’s albums (or at least the songs he didn’t write for it) would be Fall Out Boy meets Kylie Minogue.

    But it’s all irrelevant. The guy was whoring for headlines.

  • alxsavage

    Short story: Kevin Griffin did an interview with MTV around May and basically said, ‘Adam should go to Vegas and be a cross-dressing Cher impersonator ‘ ¦’  (that’s the pretty version). He loved Kris

    Wow, that second MTV interview did make me believe that he was witting songs for Adam, I’m glad he is not after all, and it’s a shame that a 90s wonder needs to be using this kind of tactics to get headlines nowadays.

    Thanks for the sum-up!

  • BestAI

    Had to post this gorgeous pic of Adam:

    http://www.perezhilton.com/category/adam-lambert/

  • Sherena

    No Gaga collaboration. Aw. But it’s great to hear that Gaga is a fan of Adam as well.

    The best part of this interview for me was the part where Adam discusses the hype and how he’s feeling the pressure too… that’s my greatest worry as an overinvested fan, because I hate to see people disappointed or set up for something that doesn’t deliver. And that applies to Adam in the heightened expectations for his fame or for his fans in the heightened expectations for his music. Adam seems really down to earth about it all. <3 him, great interview.

  • Sherena

    Oooh! and also: I love his voice so much. His speaking voice. It’s just so adorable and quirky and sweet sounding, I don’t even know. Non PC: I like how his voice is kind of stereotypically ~gay, but not to an extreme extent.

  • Chipmunk

    Adam’s an interviewer’s dream i tell ya! Love his interviews..He owns that shit!

  • adamaloha

    I admire Adam’s balls in reaching out to Lady Gaga. Think about it. He’s just starting out and she’s a (fairly) big star.
    And sherena- I agree– I love his speaking voice. I could listen to it all day.

    And I believe Adam’s pre-emptive strike in baring his life– letting it all out– is working. There was a flurry of “he came out!” stuff right after RS… but it has pretty much died down now. Only the most unprepared and unsophisticated of interviewers tend to dwell on that anymore. It will never go completely away– but in being completely honest Adam has deprived the public and the media of what they need most to keep scandal alive– secrecy.

  • tfmal

    Well that certainly got my curiosity up. Elton John? Wow. The two of them together would be incredible. Or maybe Elton is writing a song for Adam. Adam is always so mysterious. Kevin Griffin, what a strange man. I hope Adam isn’t feeling too much pressure with so many people raving about him.

  • greeneyedlady

    BestAI, thx for that gorgeous pic! And thx to mj for the highlights of the interview. I’m still travelling on China and they don’t allow access to YouTube (or Twitter or Facebook). I’ll have a lot to catch up on when I get back, but this forum helps me feel conected:)

  • dyg1

    I don ´t get tired of listening to Adam whether speaking or singing. I listened to this interview live on Tuesday, and since it was posted I can ´t stop listening. Adam is so articulate, and his speech is so fluid and almost as rhythmic as his singing that I could listen to him for hours.

    I have been soooo curious about his relationship with EJ, wondering what it is all about. I had the opportunity to see EJ live in Houston in the early 70s (don ´t remember if it was 71 or 72) and he was not dressed so OTT, huge colored glasses, platforms and hair in different colors, but that was it. It was my hippy time, so maybe I was not shocked by his look, but I was in love with his music.

    Thanks for:
    - the YT of Pinball Wizard – from Tommy. Love it!
    - Adam ´s pic – totally gorgeous

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Good morning everyone. Thanks for the thread mj, it makes for lovely afternoon reading.

    I love this interview.
    I somehow doubt an Elton collaboration, I think the number most likely came about as a result of congratulations, or it could be that an Elton song is the cover Adam was talking about as a possibility for his album. He may have reached out to Elton personally for permission.

    I just love that man.

  • MalandiAko

    I have listened to Adam sing with a Scottish accent (The Brigadoon) and sing songs in Hebrew (The Prayer and Sir La Shalom??) and I was really, really wonderfully surprised and amazed at this guy’s talents. Now, if only I can hear Adam sing songs in Chinese or Japanese, complete with costumes and with acceptable accents, we can then declare that Adam is the best singer everrrrrrrr and I may start “shooting” those that will argue that he is not!!!!

  • saga

    I may start ‘shooting’  those that will argue that he is not!!!!

    That might be a bit extreme! I wonder if there will be time for any collaboration to happen? I was hoping for a Gaga collaboration, mostly because she is famous and that can open doors, not really a big fan of her stuff. I’d much rather see Adam collab with someone in the muse direction. I am with sun that I don’t think there is a Elton/Adam collaboration in the works, I think it’s more a social contact.

  • Studio57

    This is the link to the original Kevin Griffin article where he trashes Adam:

    http://www.bullz-eye.com/music/interviews/2009/kevin_griffin.htm

    Wonder if he’ll crawl back under his rock after the Adam smackdown.

  • saga

    This is the link to the original Kevin Griffin article where he trashes Adam:

    http://www.bullz-eye.com/music/interviews/2009/kevin_griffin.htm

    Wonder if he’ll crawl back under his rock after the Adam smackdown.

    Haha, nice wording. When was this interview done? It would be interesting to know how far in the competition they had come (had he done ROF yet?). I don’t think the article was THAT bad, if you audition for AI you have to have thick skin. Adam will always be a performer subject to a lot of critisism. Kevins second interview seems worse, he clearly doesn’t like Adam and still thinks he has an idea of what his album will be like?

  • Studio57

    I think someone said May, so right before the finale. i don’t know saga- whenever anyone says “impersonator” or “Cher” it just gets my hackles up.

    As far as collaborations go, I am with you on the Gaga thing. Not a big fan.

    Ever since seeing the BEP at the NFL kickoff the other day singing “I Gotta Feeling” in front of 50,000 terrible towel waving die hard football fans I thought now THERE is a band that transends all types of music. They are like Sarah Lee- you CAN’T not like them, lol. And Fergie really does have a voice in the same vein as Adam- i would love to see Adam do a rock/hip hop collaboration. Maybe that is what Kevin Rudolph is for? Is it November yet? The guessing is kinda killing me.

  • Kirsten

    I was hoping for a Gaga collaboration, mostly because she is famous and that can open doors, not really a big fan of her stuff.

    Isn’t it still possible she wrote a song for him? She said the following in a recent article:

    Gaga – real name Stefani Germanotta – has previously written for artists including Fergie, Britney Spears and Pussycat Dolls and says she is still busy penning tracks for other people, but refused to say who.

    Lady Gaga was delighted to have the chance to write a song for crooner Michael Bolton.

    Coupled with Adam’s:
    Adam reached out to Lady Gaga about a possible collaboration on his upcoming album’“she’s a big fan. Unfortunately, their schedules didn’t mesh. ‘Who knows, maybe there’s a surprise around the corner,’  Says Adam, mysteriously.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    I really can’t get over this quote:

    KG: Some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future. And I think America is going to sour on him in the next couple of weeks. Kris is good. I’ve come around to him.

    Hopefully, god willing, touch wood and cross fingers, Adam will have a lifetime career that will have KG eating his words in perpetuity.

  • adamaloha

    KG: Some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future. And I think America is going to sour on him in the next couple of weeks. Kris is good. I’ve come around to him.

    Hopefully, god willing, touch wood and cross fingers, Adam will have a lifetime career that will have KG eating his words in perpetuity.

    Well, seeing as how he’s been caught trying to jump on Adam’s coattails and being very publicly slapped down, I think he’s already eating his words. And gagging on them.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Isn’t it still possible she wrote a song for him? She said the following in a recent article:

    It certainly is possible, but I try not to get my hopes up. I don’t think Adam is big enough a fish for Gaga. But who knows.

    For the record, I love Gaga and think she’s a fabulous singer and song write.

  • adamaloha

    For the record, I love Gaga and think she’s a fabulous singer and song write.

    Gaga is one of the most interesting artists out there. She’s never boring. I actually think she and Adam may be kindred spirits.

  • saga

    It certainly is possible, but I try not to get my hopes up. I don’t think Adam is big enough a fish for Gaga. But who knows.

    For the record, I love Gaga and think she’s a fabulous singer and song write.

    And Michael Bolton is? I am with you on the songwriting train, she writes really catchy songs. I even listened to her Bolton song and thought it was good (he is just tooooo sentimental for me to eeeever like). A song penned by her would be awesome, but I agree with you, let’s not get our hopes up too high.

    I really can’t get over this quote:

    People will always say stuff and we are allowed to have different opinions. He might be a giant flop, what do we know? In the end, word can only do so much, it is what he puts out there that will count, the eye on the price thing. Ai is a huge opportunity but also quite risky.

    When Adam speaks about his recording and the album he communicates a feeling of being very involved in the process and in control, which I find comforting. During this whole AI circus I have never gotten the vibe that he was a victim of other peoples will, like for example Megan. He gives the impression of working WITH the AI professionals, that what they finally end up doing is a collaboration of all their best intentions together. This might not be true and the label might be totally deciding everything but Adam definetely gives off a total different vibe from Kris, Allison and Danny in this respect.

  • larc

    Well, seeing as how he’s been caught trying to jump on Adam’s coattails and being very publicly slapped down, I think he’s already eating his words. And gagging on them.

    Who is this Kevin Griffin anyhow? What are his creds? Is there any reason why his opinions should be given any more weight than the average person’s in the street?

  • jpfan

    Kevin Griffin co wrote Avalanche on David Cook’s album. Obviously, his comments hit a bit of a nerve with Adam so he got the slap down.
    Although by the end of the interview, Adam is saying that his comments on Fall Out Boy/Kylie aren’t off the mark. Sorta odd. Why say you never heard of the guy and then say he’s right on the music. More like he heard this guy’s nasty comments and now wants to say he’s a nobody.

    Adam seems to like to respond to critical/nasty comments. That has both good and bad aspects to it.

    And I think Griffin is in the AI stable of writers. No need to care about his comments although they give insight into the direction of Adam’s album.

  • Studio57

    larc- Kevin Griffin was in a 90′s band called Better Than Ezra- their one semi big song was called “Good”. If you youtube it you would remember it probably.

    He also wrote for david cook I guess

    jpfan- Adam didn’t say the comments weren’t off the mark, the interviewer asked if they were he just said he had to hand it to Griffin, he can give good quotes.

  • jpfan

    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda.

  • Squirrely

    I loved Desperately Wanting by Better than Ezra but now KG soured me on it…funny how that title kind of fits his current behavior.

  • larc

    Thanks jpfan and Studio57. So it’s reasonable to say he has a tiny bit of cred, but not nearly as much as Gene Simmons? I ignore Gene so I’m probably safe ignoring KG. ;)

  • Studio57

    To be fair, jp fan- Adam never commented on the first interview that KG gave back in May, it was only after KG gave an interview to MTV saying he is writing for Adam and knows all about the direction he is going in like he and Adam are bff’s. And he only mentioned him because he was asked.

    Gene Simmons deserved the comeback Adam gave, and so did Clay Aiken, and Lindsey Lohan and who else am I forgetting? Each comeback Adam gave was because he was directly asked what he thought by an interviewer. Adam is quick on his feet, doesn’t filter anything, and that’s why he is so damn cool.

  • jpfan

    Adam’s saying this publicity hound is using me to get noticed. I never heard of him yet he know what’s on my album. Not sure that’s exactly the case though.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Adam is saying that his comments on Fall Out Boy/Kylie aren’t off the mark. Sorta odd.

    It was the interviewer who said the Kylie quote isn’t that far off, NOT Adam.
    Adam said that he gives KG credit for giving a good quote, and that it was a nice thing for him to say. He didn’t confirm or deny the comparison.

  • Squirrely

    Why publicly diss someone who has not done a thing to you if it’s not to get publicity or attention? Kevin could have said he liked Kris without insulting Adam. Clay could have said he didn’t care for ROF without all the my ‘ears bled’ stuff. And Gene Simmons could have said, Adam should have waited to come out without the -he fucked up his career- stuff.

  • Ladyguard

    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda.

    I do not blame Adam for thinking that or reacting the way he does. They are the ones going out after him, not the other way around.

  • jpfan

    I’m not saying they didn’t do it for publicity. I’m just saying Adam comes across as full of himself by saying that’s the reason. When other celebrities get dissed, I don’t usually hear them saying “I’m so big…this gets them attention.” The only one who comes to mind is Kanye.. And his whole persona is to be kinda arrogant.

  • becausehelives

    It certainly is possible, but I try not to get my hopes up. I don’t think Adam is big enough a fish for Gaga. But who knows.

    How big is gaga again?. Is she not relatively new?. is this not her first album?. is she not up for best new artist or something like that. yes she’s hot now , her album is smoking the charts but i don’t think of her as too big yet. She’s at abt the same level chris Brown was when he collaborated with Jordin sparks. IIRC he had a few no 1s from his first album and was so hot but he did the collaboration anyway.

  • Squirrely

    jpfan – Adam said he never heard of KG but he did read the interview and all of his comments are based on that interview. He even followed up by saying, he’s not sure of his writing skills but he does give a good quote. A good quote is just that, he’s not remarking on the content.

  • Studio57

    That’s the whole thing Squirrely- no one would even care that KG liked kris better. They have alot in common that they are from neighboring states, went to neighboring colleges, and they are both musicians. It stands to reason KG would identify with/ respect Kris more. He should have left it at that without all the Cher/theater/drag shit.

    Where exactly does Adam say he is “so big”? He even said to the interviewer when asked about all the praise he is getting from big names to wait until the album comes out first. He is very humble most of the time.

  • Adamme

    BestAI
    September 12, 2009 at 3:16 am
    Had to post this gorgeous pic of Adam:

    http://www.perezhilton.com/category/adam-lambert/

    BestAI, I found buches of GMA pics in JustJared.com and this picture was one of them. I thought he looks so gorgeous in this, so this picture is on my desktop for couple weeks now. ;grin

  • CindyM

    So much great stuff in this interview. I wondered if the high praise he was getting from various sources was making him feel the pressure, and it is. Loved his philosophy towards his “closet” being wide open after the RS story. Loved his mom’s reactions towards how open he was, typically protective of her and I love that they seem soooo close. Hope there is a surprise with Lady Gaga in the future. She was evasive about the subject with Ryan a few months ago but said they were talking, so maybe someday.

  • Squirrely
  • mr

    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda

    Adam’s just honest and does not pretend to be modest. Remember when in the top 5 results show he was made to choose the group he belonged to, he hardly hesitated, and assumed that he was at the top with Allison and Danny. I remember Matt saying in interviews later that he and Kris teased him about not choosing them, but that he wasn’t actually offended, because that was just Adam, he was always honest. And yeah, I think that alot of people do “randomly” mention his name to get headlines, and it’s just so obvious with this Griffin guy, that it was kind of an inevitable conclusion.

  • Squirrely

    I’m not saying they didn’t do it for publicity. I’m just saying Adam comes across as full of himself by saying that’s the reason. When other celebrities get dissed, I don’t usually hear them saying ‘I’m so big’ ¦this gets them attention.’  The only one who comes to mind is Kanye.. And his whole persona is to be kinda arrogant.

    I see what you are saying. Adam is still new to this and he still has things to learn too. But I can’t fault him his arrogance (if you want to call it that), it seems he always had to prove himself and I like that he has a such a strong belief of self now.

  • becausehelives

    Wonder if he’ll crawl back under his rock after the Adam smackdown

    He should. His comments imo were worse than Clay’s and Gene’s put together. ” This is his future”. drag and impersonating cher?. that was unneccessary and a little mean.

  • Jx223

    Gene Simmons deserved the comeback Adam gave, and so did Clay Aiken, and Lindsey Lohan and who else am I forgetting?

    What happened with Adam and Lindsay Lohan?

  • Studio57

    Cindy M- That was something I was wondering too about the pressure. The Brian May and Meatloaf quotes, the discussions of him on rock music blogs, tour reviews calling him the next big thing, the media in general are wonderful, but they are setting an impossibly high standard.

    It was good to hear him be a little cautious about the whole thing, shows he’s not all wrapped up in his own hype, imho.

  • Squirrely

    I don’t think Lindsay was dissing Adam – I think that was all a misunderstanding.

  • Studio57

    Jx- the Lohan thing I think was a misunderstanding.
    ETA: winks8 explains it a few posts down

    Squirrely- all morning we have been doing that, lol.

  • smokeyvera

    I recall Adam’s mom said she googles Adam every morning and every evening. She has moved to LA to help Adam set up a new home. I wouldn’t be surprised if she apprised Adam of this songwriter dissing him. I doubt Adam has the time to do all the searching and Mombert is protective of Adam and rightfully so. I was amazed he knew about the dissing. I think Adam wants to keep his fingers on the pulse of what’s happening and how others view him – it’s important in how he approaches interviews and sells himself. He has a lot of prejudice to overcome, despite all of views that homophobia doesn’t exist – it most defintely does. Also the media hype places so much pressure on him to produce something extraordinary. I for one am glad Mombert advices Adam. She said he doesn’t always listen to her, but I think he processes all the information she provides and acts accordingly. That’s why I think he is so superb in interviews. He is thoughtful, but unfiltered and exceedingly savvy.

  • Squirrely

    Squirrely- all morning we have been doing that, lol

    I know, we are of like minds today.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    jpfan
    September 12, 2009 at 9:17 am
    I’m not saying they didn’t do it for publicity. I’m just saying Adam comes across as full of himself by saying that’s the reason. When other celebrities get dissed, I don’t usually hear them saying ‘I’m so big’ ¦this gets them attention.’ 

    HE didn’t say that here either. This interview was referencing KG’s comments regarding writing for Adam’s album not the earlier Cher comments. The “people say things to get in the press” comment Adam made was about KG saying he’s writing for his album. In this case Adam’s statement is simply true, since KG’s MTV interview did make press.
    You’re making a connection to the Cher comment, and KG dissing him, where non exists.

  • becausehelives

    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda.

    yes it is . The people going after him at every opportunity shld know better. he has made this comment like 3 times now so to him if you talk smack abt him you want publicity. it may come out as arrogant but we all know he is right.

  • Winks8

    Good morning!

    The Lindsay Lohan tweet refered to Lindsay tweeting the following:

    Lindsay Lohan
    I prefer Adam Lambert rather than glambert… A bit too negative. And @mattgiraud KILLED IT!!!! NICE WORK!!

    Lindsay was just talking about liking Adam Lambert — the name — better than “glambert.”

    Then… if I recall correctly…. someone asked Adam to respond (a reporter?)but they quoted Lindsay incorrectly. They made it sound like Lindsay said she liked the old Adam better. So that’s what Adam was responding to when he said he liked the old Lindsay better.

    This one really was like a game of telephone.

    Hope that all makes sense :-)

  • Squirrely

    FYI I posted a new WLL and Starlight video in the Bridgeport concert thread – at least I think it’s new.

  • CindyM

    Thanks Sunn, it does help to really listen to the interview. It certainly did get KG in the press, not just the MTV article. The KG MTV article was recirculated on other sites, and like the “Adam is writing Kris’s songs” distortion, I read an Internet piece referring to KG as “Adam Lambert’s songwriter”.

  • Studio57

    THAT’S what is was- thanks winks8. I’m going to edit my original post, so a million people don’t respond to my misquote.

  • sidewalkstory

    She has moved to LA to help Adam set up a new home.

    smokeyvera, last I heard Adam’s mom was waiting to sell her house. Where did you find she has moved to LA?

  • jpfan

    “You’re making a connection to the Cher comment, and KG dissing him, where non exists.”

    I’m pretty sure Adam knew about the Cher comments. His fans seem to know. And I get that KG talked about Adam and that got publicity. And yes for Adam to say that’in an interview makes him sound a bit arrogant. Plus while Adam never heard of KG I’m pretty sure his producers/AI know who he is. So a simple phone call could have cleared up the whole thing. Although I don’t blame him for not bothering.

  • Squirrely

    smokeyvera, last I heard Adam’s mom was waiting to sell her house. Where did you find she has moved to LA?

    I recall hearing that she moved to LA as well, but I don’t remember which interview that was.

  • boredinschool

    During this whole AI circus I have never gotten the vibe that he was a victim of other peoples will, like for example Megan.

    Weren’t some of the other contestants saying that he fought against the lip-synching of the group performances because he was the only one brave enough to? (paraphrasing here)

    I like that he has a such a strong belief of self now.

    Me too Sunn me too :)

  • saga

    edit: don’t tell posters what to post. I’m not running a fansite here

  • boredinschool

    I recall Adam’s mom said she googles Adam every morning and every evening. She has moved to LA to help Adam set up a new home. I wouldn’t be surprised if she apprised Adam of this songwriter dissing him. I doubt Adam has the time to do all the searching and Mombert is protective of Adam and rightfully so. I was amazed he knew about the dissing. I think Adam wants to keep his fingers on the pulse of what’s happening and how others view him ‘“ it’s important in how he approaches interviews and sells himself. He has a lot of prejudice to overcome, despite all of views that homophobia doesn’t exist ‘“ it most defintely does. Also the media hype places so much pressure on him to produce something extraordinary. I for one am glad Mombert advices Adam. She said he doesn’t always listen to her, but I think he processes all the information she provides and acts accordingly. That’s why I think he is so superb in interviews. He is thoughtful, but unfiltered and exceedingly savvy.

    Ya and I think in future Mombert will help him stay grounded. I think Dadbert also stalks the TWoP Adam forums, he’s posted there twice. We’ve never gotten solid proof that it WAS him but Adams confirmed some of the things he’s said so I’m pretty sure it is. Regardless I love how both parents are looking out for him, it’s really sweet. :)

  • smokeyvera

    It was not Dadbert commenting on TWoP. It was brother Neil that commented there. Neil has subsequently backed off having to sign a “mum” contract. But you are right, the whole family has his butt covered – all good!!!!!

  • sidewalkstory

    Ya and I think in future Mombert will help him stay grounded. I think Dadbert also stalks the TWoP Adam forums, he’s posted there twice.

    I never believed that it was actually Adam’s dad that posted there. I doubt Adam’s dad would post what Adam wears to bed.

  • larc

    He should. His comments imo were worse than Clay’s and Gene’s put together. ‘  This is his future’ . drag and impersonating cher?. that was unneccessary and a little mean.

    Plus I sense likely homophobia. Why else would he have singled out that particular kind of entertainment? Like racism, if homophobia is involved I consider the source whenever I hear such criticism.

    Unfortunately, Adam will have to put up with bigots. But I think he has a healthy enough sense of who he is to rise above it.

  • pjd

    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda.

    Wow – I sure didn’t hear this in the radio interview. All I heard was that he hasn’t heard of the guy. It is only a “smackdown” because the guy came across in the MTV stuff sounding like he was practically BFF with Adam. If Adam hasn’t met him or seen a song by him for the album, what is wrong with saying he hasn’t heard of him? The vast majority of those hearing this interview won’t know anything about the comment back in May which we are making the ASSUMPTION Adam knows about. He may or may not, but all he really said was he didn’t know who the guy is.

  • Adamme

    Hopefully, god willing, touch wood and cross fingers, Adam will have a lifetime career that will have KG eating his words in perpetuity.

    Sunn – I have the same hope for Adam and so many more hopes for him. I think KG’s already eating his words on his interview with MTV, because his “two weeks” prediction of America’s reaction to Adam is deadly wrong. He probably regretted what he said as soon as he saw Adam singing with Queen that night. Then all the press reviews and Rolling Stones. He said what he said in bull-eyez right before the finale and had never dreamt the praises from Brian May and Meatloaf for Adam. Who’s KG compare to Brian and Meatloaf.

  • saga

    Weren’t some of the other contestants saying that he fought against the lip-synching of the group performances because he was the only one brave enough to? (paraphrasing here)

    He didn’t like, he brought it up. I think they changed it in the last episode(s)? This is exactly an example of what I mean, he tries to fix things that he doesn’t like and to me he seems somewhat succesful in that.

  • crazylady

    Two quick questions: If you Google Adam, what is the best info to put in the search bar to get the most current results? If I just put in “Adam Lambert,” I get squat!

    Also, what does TWoP stand for? I’m so clueless!

    Happy Saturday everyone!

  • Frozen

    Also, what does TWoP stand for? I’m so clueless!

    Television Without Pity

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    I’m pretty sure Adam knew about the Cher comments. His fans seem to know. And I get that KG talked about Adam and that got publicity. And yes for Adam to say that’in an interview makes him sound a bit arrogant. Plus while Adam never heard of KG I’m pretty sure his producers/AI know who he is. So a simple phone call could have cleared up the whole thing. Although I don’t blame him for not bothering.

    You’re pretty sure? how? Is there a quote by Adam talking about it that I don’t know about? If so, link please.

    And was he supposed to make that phone call mid-interview?

  • Studio57

    TWoP is Television Without Pity- they have an AI message board there.

    I still think his full name is the way to go when googling news- do you hit the ‘news” feature? The articles on him have been kind of slow lately but they should pick up a bit when the albums come out.

  • bridget

    It seems to me that Adam doesn’t often choose to take offense unless it is clearly meant, and not even then most of the time. (Remember, “I like Rocky Horror”?)

    But, when someone takes a nasty shot at Adam (and Griffin’s original comments were nasty, no mistaking it) and THEN tries to promote himself by implying a connection to Adam that doesn’t exist (again, that’s pretty clear, isn’t it?), why shouldn’t Adam call him out just a tiny bit? (If that’s even what Adam was doing – after all, he just said that he didn’t know Griffin, was surprised by the comments on MTV, and figured Griffin did it to get press. Which he did get.)

    That doesn’t strike me as “ego” on Adam’s part. It strikes me as hard won, well-earned, HEALTHY self-respect. I admire it in him, I like it.

    Everyone can see that Adam is generous, thoughtful, smart, and funny. The fact that he’s also got massive talent shouldn’t mean he, therefore, has to take BS from anyone.

  • sidewalkstory

    Not only should you hit the “news” feature, you should click on the “sort by date”. And if you should hit “include duplicates”, well, see you next year after you’ve caught up.

  • Adamme

    cool pic

    http://gossipcandy.com/2009/09/hh-angel-pic/#respond

    That white angel outfit & wings made him looked so tan and sexy.. LOL

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Kevin Griffin co wrote Avalanche on David Cook’s album. Obviously, his comments hit a bit of a nerve with Adam so he got the slap down.
    Although by the end of the interview, Adam is saying that his comments on Fall Out Boy/Kylie aren’t off the mark. Sorta odd. Why say you never heard of the guy and then say he’s right on the music. More like he heard this guy’s nasty comments and now wants to say he’s a nobody.

    Kevin Griffin is lead vocalist for “Better Than Ezra.” I guess it says something about his notoriety that he’s only recognized here as being one of the writers on Cook’s floundering album. I actually liked “Better Than Ezra” back in the early 90′s when I was more into their sound.

    I didn’t hear Adam say he was right on about the music on his album at all. He gave him credit for getting a soundbite in the press for claiming to know all about Adam’s album when he has absolutely nothing to do with it.

  • Susan M.

    I’m not saying they didn’t do it for publicity. I’m just saying Adam comes across as full of himself by saying that’s the reason. When other celebrities get dissed, I don’t usually hear them saying ‘I’m so big’ ¦this gets them attention.’  The only one who comes to mind is Kanye.. And his whole persona is to be kinda arrogant.

    I’m with Squirrely and I do see what you’re saying, but the point is the only reason the questions are being asked and we’re even discussing it is because they people who are dissing Adam ARE getting headlines for it (or in the case of the second Kevin Griffin story, just talking to talk with no basis in reality). When Adam is asked repeatedly about this story or that, it would be difficult not to acknowledge the fact that the only reason we’re hearing about it is these people do get ink when they mention Adam.

    Perhaps they also would if they started dissing Kris, but I sort of doubt it.

    ETA: Sorry this is late, I forgot I hadn’t read the next page of threads. But I think it still applies.

  • Truthiness

    I’m pretty sure Adam knew about the Cher comments. His fans seem to know.

    This fantard didn’t know until recently when this guy was in the press saying he was writing songs for Adam and he was getting buzz for how he was describing Adam’s sound. And I have a lot more time on my hands than Adam does at this point. But if it hadn’t been for a few other fans who had seen and remembered what this guy said, I, and many others, would have remained in the dark. In fact on the other sites I visit, most people didn’t know about this guy’s previous remarks until this article put this guy back in the news and others than shared what he had said before.

    Which it was fine that KG was saying that he was submitting songs, but then he was also talking like he knew about what the sound of the album was going to be, and what a weird sound it was, by Kevin’s description. Which how would he know? And I think that was Adam’s point, and I agree.

    And when was the last time this Kevin guy was in the press? The last time he wrote for the idols last year maybe? Because I would say it does sound arrogant of Adam, but that he was specifically asked about it, and yes, this guy did get MTV articles and press about writing for Adam and his comments on what Adam’s sound would be, (oh and Kris to, whatever sound that was going to…oh who knows/cares?). That being said, Adam can be a bit snarky and he might want to think about that going forward. Though as he did say about KG, it wasn’t that he was trying to diss him, he just didn’t know who he was and why he was making claims about his album. And he did end up saying that Kevin did have a turn of phrase with that FOB meets Kylie Minogue stuff, so if his writing was as good as that…

  • BootStar

    Kevin Griffin is lead vocalist for ‘Better Than Ezra.’  I guess it says something about his notoriety that he’s only recognized here as being one of the writers on Cook’s floundering album.

    Lots of people know who Kevin Griffin is. Adam fans may loathe him, but Adam fan threads are hardly the only gauge of KG’s success. He was heavily involved with Howie Day’s new album, so I’m sure he’s making a very good living doing what he loves, even if he clearly misstepped by snarking on Adam. I won tickets to see Better Than Ezra in concert over the summer and they were fantastic. One of the best concerts I’ve ever seen.

    And Adam, I would imagine, will be very happy if his album sells as well as Cook’s “floundering” one, unless he’s completely drunk on the Kool-Aid of some of the hype out there.

  • CindyM

    Well since he said in the interview that’s the basis of this thread, that the hype was putting a lot of pressure and asked that people just wait until the album is out there, I don’t think he’s quite drunk with the hype just yet. I think you’re right, I think Adam would be thrilled with David’s sales, especially since he seems to really admire him.

  • Tess

    I like that Adam is self-possessed and comfortable in his own skin and that he isn’t afraid to blow his own horn. My pet peeve is people who are good at what they do and then play the ever so meek and mild when someone asks them about their craft.

    I would rather a singer say that his stuff his wonderful, marvelous, best ever because that says he is “happy” with what he is doing. Sure, it may be personal hyperbole but compare that to the artist that says: ‘I like it but its up to the buying public to decide’ or ‘I gave it my best shot’. The second artist isn’t being humble he is playing the ‘can’t let the buying public think I am into myself game’…and that’s bah-humbug.

    I like to be around secure people that know they have the goods and aren’t afraid to admit it. It’s not bragging when you can back yourself up. Sure, Adam’s album may be total drek as far as the music buying public is concerned but you can tell that Adam thinks it does his skills justice. I would buy it just because he makes it sound like its going to be really good…and hype is half the battle. Many music buyers listen to the hype not the music and convince themselves that if the artist and the people hyping the music like it, it must be worth the price.

  • Sveta

    I never heard or saw Adam Lambert attack his fellows artists. I never even heard him criticizing their skills or performances. He is always generous to commend them and see something good in everyone. The biggest thing in sense of critique a genre that I heard from him was that he is not seeing himself to perform country music.
    But he does strike back when someone out of blue bites him.

    And I think he does that when he finds it not being true or fair. As far as I remember he liked Michael Slezak and Co making fun of him all season long because as he described he deserved it being ” ridiculous”.

    When he strikes back, it is always on defense, never preemptive strike.

    But the thing is he makes this defensive strike pretty hurtful. He doesn’t just fence the attack, he goes a bit deeper and turns his weapon a little to induce a bit more pain. He has a pretty good memory about those little nasty comments.

    And he makes it not so obvious, backhanded.
    I would say it feels passive aggressive. People don’t like passive aggressive, people don’t like aggressive at all, especially coming from a person who is so refreshingly positive, kind and loving.

    He has big things happening to him, an exciting future ahead of him, he is big, and he makes these little stops to bite back little angry puppies on his way. It looks vain. The aggressiveness is old, the positive attitude is new and exciting.

    IMO it would be better to say ‘I don’t agree’, ‘I don’t like that’, ‘I don’t think so’ without volunteering information about personality of his opponent.
    It looks like he did know about this songwriter, the little laughter and side comment about his character are kind of indicative.

  • bridget

    I saw Griffin’s comments as more than “snark” (Adam should do “some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future.”)

    In the same interview, Griffin mentions his admiration for Elton John. Now, who is it that I just heard happens to have Elton’s number . . . oh, that’s right.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Lots of people know who Kevin Griffin is. Adam fans may loathe him

    Actually, I don’t loathe him. I was a fan back in the 90′s. However, Better Than Ezra was never mainstream. It’s not surprising that there are people who don’t know who Kevin Griffin is, and I’m not just including ADAM fans in that category. I’m talking about the broad category of IDOL fans – some of whom are very young. It’s also reasonable that Adam doesn’t know who he is. That’s no reflection on KG. The truth is, Griffin is not a hit-maker, and never set out to be. There’s no getting around that. In the world of mainstream music, he’s going to be more famous for writing for the likes of Cook than he will be for producing anything of Howie Day’s. Again, that’s a reflection on the music that’s actually out there for mass consumption than on the song-writers. (And Cook’s latest single isn’t burning up the charts, so I do feel his album is floundering after the Idol-driven sales. I’m not sure who’s to blame for that, but that’s not for this thread.)

  • bridget

    Sveta, I really, REALLY like the way you think (and write). I see your point. You are probably right and you probably have excellent karma.

    (Unfortunately, there’s a part of me that every now and then . . . kind of likes to see a bully get a punch in the nose, figuratively speaking.)

  • Sveta

    Thanks, Bridget, you should read what I wrote about Kris, that would change your opinion about my writing. I think I spoiled my karma with that one. But I still stand by my comment.

    I agree. Sometimes the bullies need to get their nose punched, IMO, but only if other means and approaches are not working.

  • luvadamlambert

    i’ve heard of better than Ezra

  • susann

    But the thing is he makes this defensive strike pretty hurtful. He doesn’t just fence the attack, he goes a bit deeper and turns his weapon a little to induce a bit more pain. He has a pretty good memory about those little nasty comments.

    And he makes it not so obvious, backhanded.
    I would say it feels passive aggressive. People don’t like passive aggressive, people don’t like aggressive at all, especially coming from a person who is so refreshingly positive, kind and loving.

    Does he really?? Because I see it as shrugging the negative “critique” off – and trying to not let it get to him. His offhand remarks in this interview is nothing compared to the viciousness (imo) Griffin spewed during the AI-season (Which we don’t really know if Adam has seen).
    In fact, I don’t think there is anything aggressive about it. It’s just a remark. And a justified remark.

    I don’t really see this pattern that jpfan mentions. Not yet.
    But Adam does seem to have quite a lot of detractors and haters. So who knows??
    But a pattern only really first becomes clear when one hears every single interview he makes and analyzes it to death, which apparently is what happens to idol contestants. This is my first year with a favorite, so I never noticed this before.

    What really strikes me about Adam is how generous he is with compliments towards his fellow AI contestants and other artists. So I choose to dwell on that positive, and not the very rare off-hand snarky remark.

  • Truthiness

    And Adam, I would imagine, will be very happy if his album sells as well as Cook’s ‘floundering’  one, unless he’s completely drunk on the Kool-Aid of some of the hype out there.

    I agree that Adam should be happy to have sales as good as Cook’s, which I do not think are “floundering.” Not in this economy and not in the music market of today. Which, IIRC, as per recent Billboard articles, it’s actually worse this year than last.

    And as per Adam in this interview, he is worrying (and rightly to my mind) about there being too much hype about his record and living up to that. So I think he would realize and be just fine with the solid success of David Cook. At least this Adam fantard would be.

    As for knowing Kevin Gillette, much less loathing him? nope. Didn’t have a clue as to who he was until I read he was part of Better Than Ezra (who I knew, but didn’t like back in the day). Have no idea who/what Howie Day is. Didn’t know that this guy wrote for David Cook before this article about Adam. And again, had no idea he said those things about Adam until someone here brought it up. I don’t loathe him now, for the record. Sure I think he’s an ass and a weasel when he’s brought up for discussion, but other than that? I could not care less about him. He’s not even a blip on my loathing radar.

  • luvadamlambert

    Personally I would flove Adam just as much even of he had scott’s ego.he deserves to have that.

  • tfmal

    edit: don’t question the motives of your fellow posters, it’s so so rude. For that, you are now in moderation.

  • listen

    jpfan
    September 12, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Adam’s common theme seems to be that the folks dissing him are doing it to get publicity. It’s probably true but it does make him seem kinda full of himself. I’m so big criticizing me makes them famous yadda, yadda.

    I agree with this comment ^ ^

    Adam can easily do the smack-down without adding the bit about the criticizers are dissing him only for plublicity

  • BestAI

    Think about it. Why, in the first place would KG even want to think about writing songs for Adam when he once thought he was suited for Cher cross-dressing act and he would sour in two weeks. I can’t wrap my head around that thinking. Then he says he wrote songs for Adam’s album, when he didn’t? So, what were his motives for that? To top it off, back in May, he thought Kris was great, and now not so great?

  • lefil

    edit: DIAL BACK THE DEFENSIVENESS. Don’t put words in posters mouths

  • BestAI

    Adam can easily do the smack-down without adding the bit about the criticizers are dissing him only for plublicity

    Adam never mentioned that KG dissed him for publicity. He only disputed that he never heard of KG and never saw any songs he allegedly wrote. He questioned why Kevin would come out publicly and say those untruths about writing for him.

  • jericho

    Adam can easily do the smack-down without adding the bit about the criticizers are dissing him only for plublicity

    That’s what he feels so he said it (actually he really never criticized the guy but whateva). Good for him. I’m a fan because he isn’t a milktoast with the conversational and self-awareness skills of a 6 year old. Besides his mad talent, many of us like Adam because he’s intelligent, strong, self-aware, witty and generally positive. I have no problem with him putting people in their place when he feels it’s appropriate. These few and far between comments won’t affect his popularity in the least.

  • Sveta

    First of all maybe the Kevin guy likes Adam’s style now :) . Maybe he doesn’t, and then he is two face jerk.
    “Aggressive” is of course relative for everyone. But to me it would be better to answer more neutral when Lindsay commented about the name Glambert. She didn’t like the name, he likes less the girl herself. It was misunderstanding, but…
    He maybe needed to count until 10 before saying anything. It will be many people, maybe everyone will have something to say eventually about him which will not sound pleasant.
    With Gene Simmons. I’m starting to forget what it was, but he stroked back pretty good.
    With paparazzi, yeah this is ridiculous of course and I’m vulnerable here, but he called them school pictures photographers or something like that… he was right, but he is risking to get a black eye one day, those people don’t have anything to lose.
    Stuff like this you know. :) .
    Topic is vain though. I will not write more. I will read though :) .

  • lola

    Adam is just telling the truth. He does not know the guy ( i believe they have not yet met). It’s possible that he may have not seen KG’s song yet since he is still on tour or RCA doesn’t think the song fits Adam. What he only knows are the 20-24 tracks and KG is not in that list. That’s why I think he made that response. Remember what he said about people coming out of the woodwork which he finds not likey. People dissing him before are acting like they are BFF now that he’s having a name. Also, I think Adam doesn’t like the idea of having other people talking to the press about what his album will sound like especially from someone he has not yet worked with. He doesn’t even know which songs will make it to the final cut but more or less he has some vibe based on the songs he has already recorded. KG compared his album to 2 artists whom he acknowledged to be good anyway.

  • BestAI

    First of all maybe the Kevin guy likes Adam’s style now .

    After only three months, and with nothing more than his four-song set from the tour, he all of a sudden likes his style? It’s not like he said I prefer Kris to Adam. He embellished his response by saying he belongs in Vegas doing cross-dressing impersonations like Cher and in two weeks people will sour on him. Those are pretty strong opinions to all of a sudden liking his style.

  • susann

    Why do we want AI-contestants to be saints who smiles sweetly and turns the other cheek to every hurtful and hateful remark that is thrown at them??

    Legitimate question….I really want to know.

    (and I really blame Laura Saltman for Lindsay Lohan remark. She brought the comment to Adam without explaining the context. Luckily it never went further than Twitter)

  • BootStar

    Think about it. Why, in the first place would KG even want to think about writing songs for Adam when he once thought he was suited for Cher cross-dressing act and he would sour in two weeks.

    Oh, I don’t know, maybe because he realized he was wrong?

    Lots of people changed their minds about Adam throughout the course of the season, and I would imagine since then as well. (I was a fan early on and, believe me, there were lots of folks here and elsewhere who didn’t get Adam at all. I defended him on a number of sites I frequent and to my own friends and family, but in the end, I realized there was no convincing anybody about Adam. Either they would get him eventually or they wouldn’t. Nothing I was going to say or do was going to change that. The same thing happened with Cook the previous season.)

    Or maybe because KG has written for lots of past Idols and wasn’t necessarily huge fans of any of theirs either? It’s called business, no?

    Griffin has co-written some hits in the past (Tristan Prettyman’s “Madly,” Howie Day’s “Collide,” and Missy Higgins’s “Scar”). Not sure why he would turn down an opportunity to write for any Idol contestant or the season’s most talked about, most heavily-promoted talent.

    It’s pretty clear, though, that Adam won’t be singing one of KG’s songs on the new album!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Think about it. Why, in the first place would KG even want to think about writing songs for Adam when he once thought he was suited for Cher cross-dressing act and he would sour in two weeks.

    Because this is what he does, now. He writes for the Idols. Castro, Cook, Archuletta. He’s written songs for Kris’ album, and submitted songs for consideration for Adam’s. Here’s a quote from the same article in which he describes Adam’s album:

    As a songwriter, you want to get on the projects that are high-profile but you hope are going to be successful,” he said about collaborating with “Idol” alumni. “And certainly, the ‘Idol’ things are successful. »

    Kevin Griffin Talks About Adam

    Apparently, the songs he submitted for Adam’s didn’t make the cut. In other words, Adam didn’t work with him, doesn’t know who he is, and was surprised the guy claimed to have insider knowledge on his album. And I’m not sure why that’s so shocking. Kevin Griffin isn’t exactly a household word.

  • Studio57

    I don’t think anyone has even touched on the subject of the FOB/ Kylie Minnogue statement either. Everyone here does know that Kylie is a gay icon right? He might as well have said Liza Minelli. And the FOB comparison has got to come only from the ridiculous comaprisons ( read: black hair and guyliner) between Wentz and Adam. They are not even remotely connected at all.

    The guy is a complete tool and homophobe and he deserves everything Adam throws his way. he might have written a good song for David Cook, I never heard it, but he is still a tool.

  • Ladyguard

    yes for Adam to say that’in an interview makes him sound a bit arrogant.

    Adam is not arrogant. I am glad that he has enough spunk that he doesn’t allow idiots to disrespect him. I think I have said this before. Adam does not go out after people. They go out after him. I don’t expect him to sit and take it. He is always very classy in his rebuttals.

  • lola

    edit: DON’T QUESTION POSTERS MOTIVES or criticize their opinions. STAY FOCUSED ON THE SUBJECT

  • Ladyguard

    Because this is what he does, now. He writes for the Idols. Castro, Cook, Archuletta. He’s written songs for Kris’ album, and submitted songs for consideration for Adam’s. Here’s a quote from the same article in which he describes Adam’s album:

    Then he needs to learn how to keep his big mouth shut. If he writes for the Idols then he should keep his personal opinions to himself. Why would any of them have someone who dissed them in print write songs for them?

  • tiger92

    I would say it feels passive aggressive. People don’t like passive aggressive, people don’t like aggressive at all, especially coming from a person who is so refreshingly positive, kind and loving

    Adam is being assertive, not aggressive. Nothing about Adam and his personality strikes me as passive.
    I admire honest people. Even if we don’t always agree with them, at least we know where they stand.

  • jpfan

    Well in the list of important milestones in Lambert’s career, I’d put this at 1,340,000 – pretty damn unimportant. And I listened to the interview again because I thought I misheard. And basically, Adam says he never heard of the guy (no problem) and then goes on to say ..”people say things to get into the press.. these sneaky entertainers” and then moves on. So it’s not a major smackdown.

    But I still think that beating the refrain of “my haters do it for publicity” smacks of some arrogrance (even if the statement is true.) And I’m certainly not surprised that Adam’s fans think it’s fine. It is kinda cool that the guy is honest and not a phony.

    Last I looked this wasn’t a fan board but a place for different opinions.
    So mine is different because life would be boring as crap if we all felt the same way. Sorry Mr. Lambert is alas only a human who sometimes comes across as arrogant to me.

    Sads to say I’m not on the payroll of the Clay/Kris fan army here to disrupt things. .

  • snuffles

    I thought Adam’s comments about Kevin Griffin were incredibly RESTRAINED considering the nasty crap Kevin spouted back in May. And then the utter GALL he displayed trying to hype himself up by using Adam’s name (after he dissed him so badly).

    And Adam probably would have never said anything about Mr. Griffin if he wasn’t asked. He was asked and gave a mostly polite with a small side of snark response.

  • BestAI

    ‘my haters do it for publicity’ 

    When did he ever say that? The only “hater” that could even qualify that statement is Clay. Adam never called Clay a hater. Simmons likes Adam, and he never called Simmos a hater.

  • Studio57

    Passive aggressive people are people who say they will do something and then not do it. One of those in one ear and out the other types. They are procrastinators and are not good at finishing tasks.

    See: Jon Gosselin, lol.

    JPfan- I can only speak for myself but I am all about hearing other opinions, I think for the most part we are all having a civil discussion here. debating is fun. We probably won’t agree on this whole KG thing, but it’s still okay to debate it.

  • jpfan

    Yeah, hater sounded too strong. Change that to people who talk about my album but who I don’t know but once said I should do a Cher act in Vegas although I probably never read those comments. ;)

    I think it’s time for S8 idols to put out some music.

  • lola

    “Last I looked this wasn’t a fan board but a place for different opinions.
    So mine is different because life would be boring as crap if we all felt the same way. Sorry Mr. Lambert is alas only a human who sometimes comes across as arrogant to me.”

    - I, for one, am happy that you brought this up because it stirs up the discussion and allows us to explore more about him and what’s it’s like if we are in his shoes. He does sound arrogant if you take his statement word for word. But we have to look at the whole picture or at least that’s why I’m trying to do. Anyway, you have a valid point in making that conclusion that he is arrogant.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Then he needs to learn how to keep his big mouth shut. If he writes for the Idols then he should keep his personal opinions to himself. Why would any of them have someone who dissed them in print write songs for them?

    Yep. I agree. You basically say Adam’s best shot at a career is to be a female impersonator in Vegas (No, that’s not a homophobic statement – *insert eyeroll) and that the public is going to sour on him 3 weeks after the finale. Then, when that doesn’t happen, you submit songs for his consideration on his album? Ouch. Talk about needed to learn to zip it, KEVIN. Of course, KG is already such a huge, world-renowned superstar that he can say whatever he wants without expecting backlash. These Idols, on the other hand? Hey. They better learn to just shut up and take it!

    In happier news, Adam’s fever broke. Let the joyous news be spread.

  • Sveta

    Studio57,you’re right, but the term obtained a new meaning though:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=passive+aggressive

  • jpfan

    BTW, I think Adam is a very decent guy who is coming across as somewhat arrogant in that interview. Not that he is an arrogant bastard 24/7 because he clearly isn’t.

  • saga

    But I still think that beating the refrain of ‘my haters do it for publicity’  smacks of some arrogrance (even if the statement is true.)

    I think jpfan has a point. I like it when Adam is snarky but I certainly don’t want him overusing that line!

  • revcat

    Hopefully Adam will never change. To me he is the same person he was when he started out on his AI journey. I think the way he responds to questions regarding “nasty” quotes from “celebrities” is spot on.

    As for Lady Gaga, she may be fairly new on the scene but she’s been working in the business for some time and has built her career from the ground up. I like her, she does push the envelope, but her tunes tend to stick in my head. When she first started out she did performance art in Manhattan and was often turned down by club managers, some thought she was too pop and some thought she was too theatrical. Well, she’s both and the girl is rockin’ it. She’s already proven she’s not a one hit wonder (like Kevin G.).

  • http://www.votefortheworst.com Mysterioso

    I don’t hate Adam at all. I’m just a realist. And I’ve seen stars come and go before my eyes, my darlings. I only wish the best for him, but he has a long and treacherous road ahead of him, beyond the comforts of the Idol machine.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    And I’ve seen stars come and go before my eyes, my darlings. I only wish the best for him, but he has a long and treacherous road ahead of him, beyond the comforts of the Idol machine.

    You lie!! *Kidding*

    Oh, come on, Mysterioso. As shocking as this might be to Worsters, other fans of Idol pay just as much attention to the career chances of these kids. And, it’s true. The odds of any of them becoming multi-platinum, international superstars are slim.

    However, every season it’s the same with the “He/she is arrogant! Only the humble make it in this biz!” While it’s true that the viewing audience and voters love their Idols humble and lovable, (to the point of being neutered) that’s not relevant in the real world of record sales. In fact, whenever I read, “Oh, he/she is so humble! OMG!” I think, “He/she is going to humble themselves into obscurity.” If ever there was a business that required a dose of arrogance, it’s this one. Of course, one person’s dose of arrogance might be another’s all-out douchery. It’s subjective. So, yeah.

    But, if anyone was a douche in this scenario, it was KG. After the finale, he publicly dissed Adam. It was pretty rude and unnecessary, actually. (Way to kick a guy when he’s down.) Then, when his expert prediction on Adam’s immediate future didn’t pan out, he hopped on the Adam bandwagon by submitting songs for his album. (Of course, he seems to be submitting songs for any and every Idol lately, so I guess it’s not too surprising.) I think he deserves a subtle little kick in the ass for that.

  • Susan M.

    I don’t hate Adam at all. I’m just a realist. And I’ve seen stars come and go before my eyes, my darlings. I only wish the best for him, but he has a long and treacherous road ahead of him, beyond the comforts of the Idol machine.

    As opposed to the cushy gold-paved road he’s had until now? I certainly appreciate your sentiment, but Adam has had it anything but easy. Especially comparative to his obvious talent, he has still had to work his ass off and sing for his supper for YEARS.

    Remember Idol was his “last-ditch” desperation move and by all accounts, it’s working. People know who he is now (and not just AI bubble peeps). And timid record executives who might have balked before for fear that his orientation would hinder his appeal to a general audience have been proven wrong.

    Dude has a work ethic and is not lazy about knowing his industry. I don’t think he thinks for a minute it’s going to be easy (I don’t think there has been one step in his whole journey that has been easy.) My take is most of his fans know this too.

  • stampsgal

    Moving in a different direction. Adam is excited to work with Lady Gaga. Yah ‘”okay! –she is a big name and I am sure it is the theatrical/risk taking aspect to her performances/costumes that he likes. I was thinking about – just how theatrical he likes to get/wants to get in the future. He says glam rock cover for his album! What the dickens does the future hold –Adam naked with a martini glass, bubbles and eye glitter (Rollingstone Gaga cover)? We’ll see!

    I wonder if some of his old stuff might start looking tame in comparison to his future steps in ‘show biz’ , especially in light of his keenness for the Gaga spirit!

    After seeing him live in concert in July, and viewing concert videos on-line, the ‘Kiss and Tell’  video was tame (exception -1 move). When I first viewed it ‘” I thought OH! and yah ‘“I kinda like those moves. BUT, DO I DARE save it in my Adam favorites! Now I am not going to hesitate to perk up my favorites ‘“for posterity.

    ‘ ¢Help —-I remember seeing pictures of his ‘pop/dance group’  that he mentioned in his ultimate 4 part interview (same group in the Kiss and Tell video). I went looking for the photos of his group performing, as well as the pictures of him in Aztec attire, to save to my ‘Adam file’ . I cannot locate them now. Does anyone remember the link to find those photos? thx

  • listen

    jpfan September 12, 2009 at 2:07 pm
    But I still think that beating the refrain of ‘my haters do it for publicity’  smacks of some arrogrance (even if the statement is true.) And I’m certainly not surprised that Adam’s fans think it’s fine….

    I am a huge Adam fan, and have been from the beginning. But I still agree with jpfan on this point: about folks making comments for the publicity.

    Adam can and should put the dissers in their place, but adding the bit about they are only doing it for publicity (implying that anything associated with Adam’s name automatically becomes newsworthy), comes across as arrogant, IMO.

  • Susan M.

    @stampsgal, terraj, who I think is in the headlines thread right now, posted her Adam video playlist and it was insanely comprehensive. She had to have every bit of video taken of Adam saved and categorized (and you could link to them) She posted it in a thread the other day, but now I don’t have a clue which one. You should see if she’s there.

    Now, I MUST clean. this. freakin. house.

  • BestAI

    However, every season it’s the same with the ‘He/she is arrogant! Only the humble make it in this biz!’  While it’s true that the viewing audience and voters love their Idols humble and lovable, (to the point of being neutered) that’s not relevant in the real world of record sales.

    I can think of a couple of idols who were penned arrogant: David Cook and Chris Daughtry.

  • listen

    I can think of a couple of idols who were penned arrogant: David Cook and Chris Daughtry.

    Simon thought Cook was arrogant and so the haters ran with that.
    I never saw Cook that way and never have.

  • sunsurger

    Adam can and should put the dissers in their place, but adding the bit about they are only doing it for publicity (implying that anything associated with Adam’s name automatically becomes newsworthy), comes across as arrogant, IMO.

    I don’t think it’s arrogance – I think he’s being cynical! He’s been in the biz a long time and received a lot of slams and put downs – all of a sudden people come out of the woodwork and want to claim you. Seems to me Adam’s attitude is perfectly normal and the way most people would feel.

  • saga

    OHHHH! Remember someone saying they asked Adam at a m&g about coming to england and do a gig? And he said Simon is setting it up? Maybe that’s the connection to Elton?

  • soveryMel

    listen
    Simon thought Cook was arrogant and so the haters ran with that.
    I never saw Cook that way and never have.

    But that’s just the point. Cook definitely isn’t. And neither is Adam. Self-confidence is often misconstrued as arrogance, but it doesn’t look like it hurt Cook or Daughtry one bit professionally.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    I went through this post and deleted the defensive and/or baiting posts. And sorry, I don’t consider criticizing Adam baiting.

    I put a few people in moderation. Dropping in only when you feel the need to fingerwag or tell folks off is a very quick way to end up moderated.

  • revcat

    What the dickens does the future hold ‘“Adam naked with a martini glass, bubbles and eye glitter (Rollingstone Gaga cover)? We’ll see!

    Some of his fans wouldn’t mind! :)

  • Soberba

    Kevin, is that you ???!!!

    OMG, that is one of my favorite comments EVER! LMAO!

    And, Adam was not passive agressive in the interview. He wasn’t agressive at all. He just answered a question about a guy that falsely claimed to be involved in his album. Adam never implied that this guy hated him and that’s the reason he must be looking for attention. He just said: this guy lied about writting songs for me, he must be looking for attention. Why else would he give false statements about working with me? Well, that’s my point of view.

  • Natasha

    Self-confidence is often misconstrued as arrogance, but it doesn’t look like it hurt Cook or Daughtry one bit professionally.

    I agree. Performers like Cook and Daughtry know what they’re doing out there. I’ve never understood the notion that a performer is supposed to look like a deer in the headlights on stage.

    Considering what Griffin said about Adam I don’t think his response was out of line. If I was trying to be a recording artist and someone told me to go do a drag act in Vegas I doubt I’d be happy. And if later on this same person does an interview and describes what my album is going to sound like I’d probably tell the guy to get stuffed.

    Needless to say I don’t believe Griffin had an epiphany re: Adam. If you have what sounds like a visceral negative reaction to someone the odds that your opinion is going to change that much are slim to none. I don’t believe Michael Slezak’s opinion could have changed that much either.

  • Squirrely

    What the dickens does the future hold ‘“Adam naked with a martini glass, bubbles and eye glitter (Rollingstone Gaga cover)? We’ll see!

    Some of his fans wouldn’t mind!

    I want it in poster size :)

  • Q3

    What the dickens does the future hold ‘“Adam naked with a martini glass, bubbles and eye glitter (Rollingstone Gaga cover)? We’ll see!

    Some of his fans wouldn’t mind!

    That would be the biggest selling RS cover of all time! And, yes, I would buy that one!

  • dietcoke

    jpfan and allison are my favorite non-Adam fans on this board. Their comments and criticisms are generally quite reasonable IMO. If Adam fans do not respond to a negative comment about Adam, there wouldn’t be another 100 negative comments back and forth on the subject. I read what jpfan had to say about Adam’s Kevin Griffin remark and I had no problem with it even though I didn’t think Adam came across as arrogant. It was an opinion she was entitled to.

  • mgk

    Obviously Griffin has such a good track record predicting people’s taste, Better Than Ezra is so popular now.

    ETA:
    Until Adam can somehow go back in time and comment to MTV that people will get tired of Better Than Ezra, and that he really sees Griffin’s career going more in the direction of trying (and failing) to get his songs on an artist’s CD that he doesn’t even like, I think Griffin should be cool with anything Adam says.

  • CindyM

    I agree. Performers like Cook and Daughtry know what they’re doing out there. I’ve never understood the notion that a performer is supposed to look like a deer in the headlights on stage.

    I so agree with this. Part of the reason I love both Cook and Daughtry is that they are confident! They know they are talented, they aren’t afraid to show it and even seem to revel in it! I’ve never seen Daughtry in concert, but David Cook was so joyful in the concert I saw him in July. He clearly knows who he is and what gifts he’s got and he seems to love to perform and show them off. He did this, while still being a total band member. I love that confidence and joy, it’s infectious.

  • revcat

    Simon didn’t appear to like David Cook on the show, at least not at first. He even made fun of him when they showed clips of the Idols and David was shown doing word puzzles. Simon called him a nerd or something to that effect and was overly critical of his performances also, I think he gradually came around but in the meantime didn’t David kind of “talk back” to Simon? Nevertheless, I don’t recall thinking David was out of line. I like a person who shows a little spunk in a non OTT manner.

    I hope Adam never loses his spunk, you have to have it to survive in the industry. Same goes for David. Anyway, it’s awesome that “David the nerd” and “Adam the overly theatrical, too Broadway guy” are both doing well. I am sure both have to pinch themselves every once in awhile, especially Adam since it’s still so new for him.

    As for Daughtry, I don’t remember him ever saying anything that could be interpreted as arrogant, but his performance persona emotes oodles of testosterone which some may interpret as arrogance or aggression. However I think the “real” Daughtry is pretty much a regular guy.

  • revcat

    I guess Elvis has left the building :(

  • Studio57

    Just checking back in. Saw there has been a hella lotta deletion going on. Am I a finger wagger or baiter? About to find out in 5,4,3,2,…..

  • Studio57

    I’m good! Wooooohoooo!