Adam Lambert OFFICIAL Details Cover, Time For Miracles Debuts Tonight

um HOLY USDBPPGW SHIT

Yeehaw the date for Oprah has been set. Wow Adam must be on cloud 9 atm. I’m so happy for him.

I don’t even know where to post anymore with so much Adam Storm news.

(ducking under bed, to be on the safe side)

TFM is #13 now.

Does anyone have a Glittery Umbrella?! The storm is bringing so much fabulous Adam news–yay!!!!!!!!

Is it 12: 00 EST for the TFM video?

Its actually painful how much I love Adam Lambert. For my boyfriend,
lets just say he’s pretty patient.

Also, there are even more photos accompanying the full interview at Detail’s website, HERE.

This link takes you directly to the photo slideshow:

http://www.details.com/celebrities-entertainment/cover-stars/200910/american-idol-adam-lambert-slideshow#slide=1

oh jesusmaryjoseph to be that model … I’d have to be 30+ years younger, skin and hair color lighter, @#$! pounds lighter … aw sheesh … to be that model!

For the Love of Adam Lambert
Why Does Every Woman in America Want to Sleep with the American Idol?

The re-write of S8 is complete!

And, no, not every woman wants to sleep with Adam Lambert. I think he’s fabulous, but sleep with him? Uh, not ever.

@onlinepastrychef
October 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Does anyone have a Glittery Umbrella?! The storm is bringing so much fabulous Adam news’“yay!!!!!!!!

Hi Online! I will always remember you from your hysterically funny review when you and your mom went to the concert. I sent to my mom and she LOL’d along with me.

We all have our glitter umbrellas and glitterboots on, while drinking Glittertini’s and Lambertini’s, shaken and stirred, toasting HBIC!

It looks like they moved up the releases (single, MV) because of the leak. Adam fans should be thanking the person at RCA who screwed that one up lol.

A lot of great news from Adam.
I’m happy, very, very happy.

Adam, sweetheart, you deserve it.

Wasn’t there a thread about this days ago.

And no all women don’t want to sleep with him. JMO

I hate being at work and not having access to most websites. and to boot I have a dinner that I have to go to tonite (can’t blow it off, I’m on the program). Anyway, will have fun in the glitter shower online when I get home.

Yeah for Adam – he must be so excited!

TfM is now #12 iTunes US — getting very close to the Top 10!!!

#2 on Amazon!!

#11 iTunes Canada

#2 iTunes Finland

#43 Sweden

NO FAT CHANCE FOR ME TO SLEEP WITH HIM.
But I want to HUG and CUDDLE with him.

I don ´t know what to read, where to post. So many Adam news. No sleep tonight to get to see the TfM video when somebody posts it to youtube.

Adam so greatly deserves all this!!!

Did I read last night that TfM was not going to go up the charts?

all of a sudden i cant see anything except black and white tees….freckles…blue eyes… spinning….spinning…*ded*

@Dallas Hi back! Enjoy your adult beverages! I am beyond happy for/excited about Adam and his music.

I only feel rational here at MJ’s. Is that wrong?!

I feel like it’s Christmas morning…

Just a comment about iTunes – TfM is at #21 in the Overall Top 100, and has moved up to #10 in Pop songs.

rowenaanie, your info is outdated. TFM is #12 overall, #9 pop.

I cannot tell you how exciting this is to watch this happen for Adam. It’s like a fricking made for TV movie with extra sparkle and sexiness. I’m so thrilled TFM is zipping up the charts. So thrilled about even more Details beauty. So thrilled about debut of vid. So thrilled about Oprah. So thrilled about Gaga. This AdamStorm has exceeded any weather forecast I was aware of.
It’s good to be an Adam fan.

OMG, that cover looks even more beautiful than it did before. Great color choice for the masthead. His eyes? *DIES*

And I’ve already wore out the slide show and video. *THUD*

Counting the minutes until midnight.

TfM No. 13? Squeeee!!!

We’re caught in a glitter storm for sure!!

When Adam’s song hits #1 I’ll take orders for Hagen Das. It’s on sale at my grocery store this week. Did anyone take a peak inside the bag and figure out Adam’s favorite flavor?

Loved the Details interview…he seemed so young and boyish there…and so very excited. He comes off as so “together” but sometimes that kid in his cape running around his house just shines through. Thanks Opie/Adam your are a pleasure.

Ok, I’ve only read this update on mjs and nothing more, as I’ve been travelling and generally busy IRL, but… I’m the biggest sap on the planet apparently cuz I’m getting choked up reading all of what is happening for Adam right now. Gosh, I need to get a grip!

I think it was the Lady GaGa collab that pushed me over the edge…

A great congrats to Adam, who imo deserves all of the good that is coming his way right now. Very exciting and how rewarding it must be for him right now! WhooHooo~

TfM miight go to #1 on Amazon in the next update — now sitting at #2.

I really love the cover, he looks like a movie star. And the overall design, with the colors and everything they chose, is very pretty and eye-catching.

stopthemusic
October 20, 2009 at 12:47 pm

rowenaanie, your info is outdated. TFM is #12 overall, #9 pop.

That’s awesome! But I’m right inside my iTunes application, not from the RSS feeds. Wouldn’t the iTunes store have the latest? And if not, what the heck are they doing??

Please show me what link y’all are using so I can catch up!

Wow. Reminds me of those vids of blonde surfer Adam he has caught a huge wave this time and I hope he rides it for all it’s worth. I’m just delighted to watch. Hey how many people can say that they did all of their experimentation, learned from it, and kept honing his talent and believing in himself. All by the age of 27! What a wonderful payoff for all of us!

What time zone for the video debut? Eastern time (I hope )?

Important: Is this 12:00 EST?

Anyone…………??????????????? Please God, let it be EST.

Son of a gun. I closed out of iTunes and reopened it. I guess the store needs to refresh? It IS #13 on the overall chart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY SHIT!

Hi Everyone…I am on my lunch break and need to get back to work, but wanted to answer Tess about Adam’s favorite flavor of ice cream. It’s French Silk by Edy’s!!!!! I remember from an interview cause that’s my favorite also….our shared guilty pleasure…yummy in more ways than one

YAY ADAM STORM!! Photoshoot is so much fun, however I wish I didn’t read DLISTED’s take on it, because now all I can see is KD Lang and Cindy Crawford. LOL.

I’m the biggest sap on the planet apparently cuz I’m getting choked up reading all of what is happening for Adam right now. Gosh, I need to get a grip!

I think it was the Lady GaGa collab that pushed me over the edge’ ¦

A great congrats to Adam, who imo deserves all of the good that is coming his way right now. Very exciting and how rewarding it must be for him right now! WhooHooo~

My sentiments exactly, although you said it in a much more mature voice than I did, weareallinnocent!

it is such a great time to be an adam fan…the moment i heard his voice during hollywood week i have been hooked…i cant remember when i was captivated and engrossed in a performer. i just adore him…and his talent just blows me away.

Adam is soooooooooooooooooooooooo SEXY-HOT…he exudes sexiness in all those pictures, wish I were that model, or the person he speaks of in the article who got to kiss him on the neck…

When Adam’s song hits #1 I’ll take orders for Hagen Das. It’s on sale at my grocery store this week. Did anyone take a peak inside the bag and figure out Adam’s favorite flavor?

May I have some Hagan Das in advance, so I will be ready to eat it when Adam hits #1?

I think he said he likes this fancy kind, that no one ever heard of. Who wants to do a Google search?

BTW, they are playing Cook’s ToML right now on Slacker Radio, and I’m thinking this is ADAM’s Time of His Life. (Plus I love that song. So it makes me happy to hear it. And it has TIME in it, too. )

hey Jim! i dont think you were implying it, but your comment made me worry they had ripped adam for the shoot but the post over there seems snarky but generally supportive… with the kd lang comment thrown in there at the end.

I had to stay up late last night to buy TfM and now I have to stay up to see the video?

DAMMIT, ADAM, I need my sleep!

Has there ever been a sharp climb like this. I am flailing in all sorts of ways…and that interview at Details…God almighty.

Will set Oprah for the 28th when I get home. Have ET set for tonight (and Access Hollywood, just in case we get more from Laura).

Oh, I prayed so hard for this Adam Storm–the Roadblock was a nasty tease–but here it is!!!

“There’s a feeling of entitlement [with the fans] because they voted to get us where we are,” he says, just a trifle irritated. “But you know what? I am responsible for what I created on that show’”you voted for what I created, and thank you, but I created it, you didn’t.”

I knew Adam was candid, but wow…..

I understand where he’s coming from but other people might take that the wrong way.

YAY ADAM STORM!! Photoshoot is so much fun, however I wish I didn’t read DLISTED’s take on it, because now all I can see is KD Lang and Cindy Crawford. LOL.

Jambajim is so passive aggressive imo. LOL He says something nice about Adam, but always with a back handed dig. “I LOVE TFM but my wife despises it” , etc.

It’s okay Jim, you don’t have to like it!!

MJ- maybe you can help….is it 12:00 est? Your always so on the ball.

I really love the cover, he looks like a movie star. And the overall design, with the colors and everything they chose, is very pretty and eye-catching.

I like the Gucci tshirt ones. Very James Dean. Adam is a chameleon!

Jambajim is so passive aggressive imo.

Not passive aggressive to me at all. Seems to me he’s just stating the opinions of his household.

I knew Adam was candid, but wow’ ¦..

I understand where he’s coming from but other people might take that the wrong way.

I have to agree with Adam on that one. I would guess that they’re all thinking it, but not many of them have the balls to say it. And, it really needs to be said.

Hi Jim! [waves]. Don’t worry, not all of us think you’re passive-aggressive LOL.

Heh. Oh, Jim. You’re such a scamp.

I understand where he’s coming from but other people might take that the wrong way.

Oh yes, his fans are soo mad that they are not going to buy any of his stuff. Look what ´s happening to TfM. Poor Adam

TFM is now 9th on the Canadian itunes pop chart.

You have no idea how ridiculously happy I am that when I pull up the page I don’t have to open the chart – it is now right there on the side bar in the top 10.

Hi Jim! [waves]. Don’t worry, not all of us think you’re passive-aggressive LOL.

I don’t think Jim cares what I think. I don’t care what he thinks either. Read what I said above: “It’s okay Jim, you don’t have to like it!!”

But I’m entitled to my opinion. As is Jim. And all of you.

Don’t know if there is any way to check this. But of the new songs out today, is anything selling as fast as Adam Lambert?

None of the “New & Noteworthy” tracks on iTunes are.

Top Ten of Pop in less than 24 hours is feeling like a deep fanbase.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/adam-lambert-goes-hetero_n_327262.html

They like their hot pics BIG at Huff Post, lol.

YAY ADAM STORM!! Photoshoot is so much fun, however I wish I didn’t read DLISTED’s take on it, because now all I can see is KD Lang and Cindy Crawford. LOL.

Jim! Did you get tired of DM’ing me and me tweeting you on Twitter? Cause, really, *I* was okay with it…

Jim, is Tess okay with it TfM yet? Cause pretty much the rest of the word is, lol.

BTW, I am a big fan of kd lang!

I do think Adam needs to be little careful…well, no, not now he doesn’t. He is doing just fine, and as usual, being entirely candid. If you don’t like him, don’t buy the magazines he is in, the albums he makes (and the videos), the interviews and the AMAs and GMAs…

Yes, I said James Dean last night. Not Elvis, people, JAMES DEAN.

*flailing*

ETA: The Huff Post has always been a big fan of Adam’s, b/c he is so candid and they love the liberal. And now they are BIG FANS. lol

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/adam-lambert-goes-hetero_n_327262.html

They like their hot pics BIG at Huff Post.

I’m freakin’ speechless.

LOL Thank you onlinepastrychef! Was it the “whoohoo” at the end or the “gosh” in the beginning of my post that best displayed my maturity? I’m partial to your glitter umbrella, personally. I’d like to place an order, please!

And, unsurprisingly, I agree with SpenserJ on the entitlement matter. I’ve never ever understood that sentiment, but I’m really glad Adam addressed it directly. His saying it helps them all, imo, and they all do need help (early on) with fan entitlement syndrome! It’s scary out there…

I have to agree with Adam on that one. I would guess that they’re all thinking it, but not many of them have the balls to say it. And, it really needs to be said.

I agree SpenserJ. between this and “entitlement is not sexy” i hope the fans on the fringe that think they need to be personally thanked and catered to whenever he makes a decision will get the picture. we voted for the product we were presented with. he is responsible for giving us a product that we wanted to vote for.

I love Adam and I love his creation. I don’t feel that I own him or he owes me anything.
I love his honesty and integrity. With that it becomes unconditional love. I love him no matter what.

Adam deserves everything coming his way because he has worked hard for it.

Is TFM #1 now?
Adam will be on top.
Adam likes to be on top.

Hi Jim I just wanted to say I think you so funny and so handsome. And yeah when I see that one picture of James Dean I do see some of Adam. He is such a really goodlooking man. And his so hot. I love reading vampire books, and to me Adam could be one of the guy’s in the pictures they show on a book cover. Tall Dark and Handsome. LOL

#9 pop!!!

Top Ten of Pop in less than 24 hours is feeling like a deep fanbase.

Especially since it’s had all of, what, 1 or 2 spins on the radio. These are the invested fans. There are several other layers of fandom out there that haven’t been tapped yet.

I love what Adam said about the entitlement. If some of the OTT Idol audience would just dial it back, it might make it a lot easier for Idol fans in general to be accepted (as opposed to ridiculed). Not to mention it would make life a whole lot less scary for Adam, Kris, etc.

I love how honest and passionate he is. I have a feeling he is going to be huge, possibly iconic, but it’s all happening so fast.

I’m afraid that he will change. I know he is very blunt, but you can tell he is thankful to the fans. However, t he already seems somewhat untouchable and “alien like” Imagine what could happen in a year? It’s exciting and scary all at the same time. I’m afraid he will seem more distant as time goes on.

I don’t want him to think all of his fans are OTT

As far as HuffPost goes, Adam kissing a girl IS news… Not like those shots of Adam kissing Drake (yawn).

lol at the headline ABOVE Adam’s Details shoot in Huffpo- that’s the OTHER Adam that was busted for drugs on Big Brother that Rickey tweeted about last night.

Gee, they couldn’t tell he was strung out on drugs?

From Adam:

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?9 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

@Pink jealous. I want to do the yummy too.about 1 hour ago from Echofon in reply to Pink

Okay, I have no idea what the Pink tweet meets lol, but how nice was that to post that to Kris. SO SEE, Adam DOES tweet his Idol buddies!!!

I do not think Adam will change. He seems pretty level headed to me. He talks to Katy Perry and others about this. He was HUGE on the Tour and yet was unusually polite to the interviewers, and has been with the press. So, no, I don’t worry about him. He knows some of his fans are OTT. They have been for a while. I’m not concerned. I just want more ADAM.

Is DrLuke mixing the song Gaga wrote?

At least he didn’t say “smelly” this time. That was generous of him.

I’m afraid he will seem more distant as time goes on.

Actually, we better hope he is. That he interacts with strong and healthy borders. Because he’s a porous guy. He takes on the feelings and mode of his audience, of his interviewers, of his collaborators. (Libra rising, moon, thank heavens, in Aries, in Libra’s 7th house.) And no human being can stay wide open and available in the energetic stream of millions of projections and survive.

Always thought, besides his roadkill childhood, that Michael Jackson’s not knowing what to do with all the zillions of energies and projections swarming all over him all the time, combined with his love of fantasy, made him not know who in the world he was or should be.

Pink tweeted:

mmmmmm. layed in bed all day. what a yummy thing to do.

Adam replied:

@Pink jealous. I want to do the yummy too.about 1 hour ago from Echofon in reply to Pink

#1 ON AMAZON!!!!!!!!!!!

Re:Details article: Adam’s been there, done that, and I’ve got the t-shirt!
Peace. Love. Adam Lambert!

#1 on Amazon

Here’s to Adam! (raising my Glittertini) Salut!! Job well done.

(it’s 5:00 o’clock somewhere.)

#1 on Amazon!!!!!!!!!!!

“smelly”

???

Did I miss something? When did Adam use the word smelly?
hahaa

#1 Holy crap!

Yeah tweeters are going crazy about adam tweeting Kris. I just fall more and more with Adam everyday. I just love there friendship. Now everyone is waiting to see if Kris tweets him back.

Top Ten of Pop in less than 24 hours is feeling like a deep fanbase.

Especially since its not really a pop song. lol Although I guess pop means popular in any genre.

#1 on Amazon!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that was fast!!

Considering that Adam’s Rolling Stone was the best-selling issue of the year so far, and that interview was never posted by them online, I find it a bit surprising that Details is making this article available for free right off the bat. I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

Ppl (yo) are waiting for Kris to tweet back. Which I am sure he will. In any case, very cool, and thanks for clarifying the Pink comment, b/c I had no idea what that meant. And yes, the tweeters are lurrving their Adam today.

He said that some of his fans were smelly in one of his interviews. I thought that was funny!

I had no idea that Neil coined Glittery Alien from the Planet Fierce. Figures, Negative Neil. So witty.

I’m afraid he will seem more distant as time goes on.

He needs to be. Assuming he becomes quite a bit more popular beyond his AI fanbase, he can’t be as accessible to his fans like he had been. He would be totally crazy if he does. How would you like it if complete strangers paw you whenever you went out. Then add many dozens to that.

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?9 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

So nice of Adam. Such a sweet guy and a friend of his friends. Matt sent him a tweet yesterday. Have I missed the other idols ´tweets to Adam?

The people at MTV probably don’t even know who k.d. lang is except somebody to snicker at with their brand of sophmoric gay-jokes. I’m guessing that Jessica Simpson is more their prefered vocal style.

will
October 20, 2009 at 2:02 pm

Considering that Adam’s Rolling Stone was the best-selling issue of the year so far, and that interview was never posted by them online, I find it a bit surprising that Details is making this article available for free right off the bat. I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

I doubt it, somehow. People (me) want it in their hot, sweaty…er…hands. And print is still in.

Considering that Adam’s Rolling Stone was the best-selling issue of the year so far, and that interview was never posted by them online, I find it a bit surprising that Details is making this article available for free right off the bat. I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

they are losing probably as much as they are gaining by getting the high quality pictures out there because i would bet there are a lot of fans (esp the ones hunting down the article online) that will want to have the pictures in hard copy to go with their RS mag.

On the entitlement issue…..funny how Cookie said the basically the same thing and was raked over the coals by the media and “fans” for it. I guess Adam will get a pass. JMO

TfM is in the Top 10 Canada iTunes!! #10

I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

Maybe they figure that a lot of people will still want hard (hmmmm) copies of those photos, well printed on good paper? …. Seems like kind of a safe bet to me, lol.

So nice of Adam. Such a sweet guy and a friend of his friends. Matt sent him a tweet yesterday. Have I missed the other idols ´tweets to Adam?

I don’t see where Matt tweeted Adam, nor any other idols.

Considering that Adam’s Rolling Stone was the best-selling issue of the year so far, and that interview was never posted by them online, I find it a bit surprising that Details is making this article available for free right off the bat. I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

I don ´t think so. People will want to have the hard copy. I am one of those people.

The people at MTV probably don’t even know who k.d. lang is except somebody to snicker at with their brand of sophmoric gay-jokes.

Who makes sophomoric gay jokes at MTV? They have always been very progressive and gay-positive, as far as I know.

And, unsurprisingly, I agree with SpenserJ on the entitlement matter. I’ve never ever understood that sentiment, but I’m really glad Adam addressed it directly. His saying it helps them all, imo, and they all do need help (early on) with fan entitlement syndrome! It’s scary out there’ ¦

LOL – do you think David Cook is writing him a thank you note right now? I’m sure he feels Adam’s pain on that one.

He needs to be. Assuming he becomes quite a bit more popular beyond his AI fanbase, he can’t be as accessible to his fans like he had been.

See, I think lots of AI fans are confused about this. If you want your favorite to be a big star, you also have to accept the fact that he won’t be accessible to you. Big stars do not meet their fans out back after the concert to sign autographs.

Q3 Tess and FHS. Love your informative, interesting posts. Thank you and thank MJ for this outlet without which suebrody might set a twitter record and halfie/hwc and his better half anthrogeek might have to display their snarky humor elsewhere instead of sharing with us.

I’m wondering if we aren’t witnessing a unique viral ” a star is born ” blog, YT and Twitter shaped if not “created” moment. I’m not ignoring Adams talent sex appeal ( or talented sex appeal) or charisma but I’m in awe of the power of this phenomen. Are you?

On the entitlement issue’ ¦..funny how Cookie said the basically the same thing and was raked over the coals by the media and ‘fans’  for it. I guess Adam will get a pass. JMO

Oh, Adam will be (raked over the coals). He got reamed for his “smelly” comment by posters and media,

…Big stars do not meet their fans out back after the concert to sign autographs.

True!!! Their shows is what we get. Fine with me.

Last night I downloaded TFM and listened to it as if I never heard it before. I was up past 2am. With today’s news, I see tonight will be another late one.

On the entitlement issue’ ¦..funny how Cookie said the basically the same thing and was raked over the coals by the media and ‘fans’  for it. I guess Adam will get a pass. JMO

Hmm… Time will tell. I recall Perez being an ass re Cook, but I took that as more of Perezism than anything. I thought the reaction was split, as usual. With the entitled fans pissed and the normal ones saying atta boy… This is my recollection as a (non-stalkeresque, unentitled) Cook fan, so maybe I lack objectivity. IMO, Cook also probably tried to be too nice for too long. Maybe Adam has watched and learned… Regardless, I think both Adam and Cook were exactly right, both with their sentiment and their expression of it.

ETA: SpenserJ, EXACTLY!

I think they’re sacrificing a lot of newsstand sales by doing so.

There is no doubt that they will sell more than 61,000 copies of the Adam cover of Details at the newstand. Here is their average circulation:

Total Paid & Verified Subscriptions: 379,241 86%
Newsstand: 61,600 14%
Total Average Paid Circulation: 440,841 100%
TOTAL AUDIENCE: 1,254,000

I am fairly certain that this if far more press cover of Details than they have ever gotten before. They must be thrilled. They probably will end up with an audience of 20+ million for this article — and that is priceless exposure. (TV + Newspaper + Magazine + Online = HUGH PR)

Plus, the associated contest is getting lots of coverage. And that means Adam story #2.

I had no idea that Neil coined Glittery Alien from the Planet Fierce. Figures, Negative Neil. So witty.

Maybe they should have let Neil name the album!

It’s all very bittersweet.
I understand the protective side. Fans will defend him when negavity arises towards him. but we don’t own him.

I do not feel that I have any sort of entitlement by any means. but it’s nice to look back at his journey and believe you were on it with him.

@jambajim So much @adamlambert news. This is me right now: http://bit.ly/L0iIA (expand)
3 minutes ago from

Last night I downloaded TFM and listened to it as if I never heard it before. I was up past 2am. With today’s news, I see tonight will be another late one.

I got it this morning as a birthday present. Have been listening all day, enjoying Adam ´s voice with the quality of the recording. I am having a birthday dinner, but I am taking my mobile device with me to follow the storm. Won ´t miss this opportunity to have my friends listen to TfM, and maybe the whole Adam ´s playlist

In less than 24 hours in the top 10. That ´s our Adam!

But…. Do I like him?

Yes, Smellygate was quite a brouhaha. DC did the right thing and should have no regrets at trying to establish some boundaries. Looks like once again, i will get next to nothing done waiting on Adam news.

HAHHAHAHAAHAAHA (At the video)

I don’t see where Matt tweeted Adam, nor any other idols.

Well a week ago, or something (time is moving fast these days) Michael Tweeted congratulating Adam on TfM when the clip first leaked, or with the trailer with Adam’s music. I think Allison also that Tweeted something saying something nice about TfM. I think. But that’s about it.

Twitter has hit the wall – over capacity – another indication of the Adam storm!?

On the entitlement issue’ ¦..funny how Cookie said the basically the same thing and was raked over the coals by the media and ‘fans’  for it. I guess Adam will get a pass. JMO

I know when Adam tweeted “entitlement is not sexy” it caused quite a stir. And didn’t Brian Mansfield come down hard on Adam for “smelly-gate”? I don’t think he is getting a pass at all but I don’t think he cares. Both he and Cook are right. I also think Cook tried to be more PC at first whereas Adam, probably taking his cue from David, has been taking this stance from the get go.

I don’t see where Matt tweeted Adam, nor any other idols.

Well a week ago, or something (time is moving fast these days) Michael Tweeted congratulating Adam on TfM when the clip first leaked, or with the trailer with Adam’s music. I think Allison also that Tweeted something saying something nice about TfM. I think. But that’s about it.

Right, it was Michael, my mistake. Don ´t remember Alli ´s, though. But with so many Adam ´s news it is difficult to keep track.

On the entitlement issue’ ¦..funny how Cookie said the basically the same thing and was raked over the coals by the media and ‘fans’  for it. I guess Adam will get a pass. JMO

I thought that David Cook got a lot of support for his outburst against the “stalking weirdos” that were following him around. The mixed feelings were more because David’s band members had gotten fairly entangled with some of these “crazies” and so it took a little longer for some people to understand the entire situation.

And there really is a difference between a “fan” and an over-invested entitled fan that thinks a person’s success is solely dependent on them catering to these uber-fans. They really think that fandom makes a star…not the other way around. And that is scary and sad.

Brian Mansfield is not an Adam fan, and his bloggers really dislike Adam (I mean, it’s pretty pathetic, which is why I never post there anymore). He has yet to weigh in on Adam’s song, and he had tweeted (not DM’ed, tweeted) that he wouldn’t comment on it till he had heard the whole song. Which he has. And unlike pretty much everyone else has remained silent. Either he really doesn’t like it or really doesn’t care or both.

ADAM STORM INDEED. Who needs Mansfield?

Adam ´s Twitter followers:
211,668

Happy Birthday dyg1

Adam is #1 on Amazon!

I think Allison also that Tweeted something saying something nice about TfM. I think. But that’s about it.

Allison didn’t tweet anything about TFM. She responded to Adam’s tweet about working with Howard Benson with a tweet agreeing with Adam that Benson was great. Of course, she used different words, I just am too old to remember them

I just discovered that there’s an additional Adam sidebar to the article:

Adam Lambert’s Fave Eight

Until the end of the month, the idolized rocker will count down his obsessions. Yes, that means you’ll know his preferred eyeliner and condom soon enough.

8. Musical: Jesus Christ Superstar

“The score is unbelievable. Jesus Christ Superstar was a concept album first, by Andrew Lloyd Weber, before it was ever a musical, so it really has its roots in rock and roll. My dad had the original recording on vinyl, and I used to listen to it in his record player. I think that it has a lot of integrity as a rock piece, and the song “Heaven On Their Minds” is amazing.”

http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2009/10/adam-lambert-fave-eight.html

I think David got a pass because he was more PC about it at first, and he still remains approachable. I’m somwhat suprised actually that he hasnt been more stand offish. At one show during his solo tour he waited till like 1 am signing autographs and talking/joking to the fans.

I think Adam took a lesson or two from David.

Happy Birthday dyg1!!!

Adam’s fave 8? I thought that meant 8 artists or songs. Silly me.

Honestly, love Alli but have never understood any of her tweets…for reallzzzz.

I’m not ignoring Adams talent sex appeal ( or talented sex appeal) or charisma but I’m in awe of the power of this phenomen. Are you?

I am not particularly surprised, no. The watercooler fascination with Mr. Lambert has been there since Ring of Fire. There are many elements to this public fascination, some of which we are not allowed to discuss at MJ’s.

My theory is that pop music is the singing equivalent of celebrity magazines like People, Entertainment Weekly, etc. Those who have celebrity personas attract interest.

In this case, we have a somewhat unique phenomenom taking place. Mr. Lambert is one of, if not the first, openly gay man to be explicitly marketed as a sex symbol in the United States. The only other name people can come up with is Neil Patrick Harris and it’s debateable whether Doogie Howser was marketed more as a sex symbol or puppy dog. Part of the fascination with Mr. Lambert is that it’s uncharted waters. America doesn’t quite know how to react. Therefore, there’s an edginess or “tension” in the story that is inherently interesting.

From a marketing standpoint, there has never been a new artist who has received the worldwide rollout that is being unleashed between today and November 23rd for Mr. Lambert.

Time for Miracles is featured in the world-wide simultaneous release of the movie This Is It next weekend. That runs for two weeks, promoting the movie 2012, which opens with a world-wide release on November 12-13th, again featuring Mr. Lambert’s hit single from the soundtrack.

Ten days from the opening of that film, Mr. Lambert performs a single from his first album on live national TV at the American Music Awards. Less than an hour after the show ends on the East Coast, his first album goes on sale — to kick off the biggest shopping week of the year.

It will, I suspect, continue to be iinteresting to watch.

Hi everyone I had such a busy RL day….of all days. I came looked on Itunes and saw Adam is in the top 10 already. (less then my prediction of 24 hours) and #1 on Amazon. Tears just started rolling down my face. I am speechless. Either his fan base is much bigger then everyone has said or he is reaching a wider audience then just AI. Either way it’s all good. Ok I am going to make a huge prediction now. I maybe wrong but so far thinks have been good. Time for Miracles will sell over 100 thousand download in its first week (or damn close to it).

Yes, that means you’ll know his preferred eyeliner and condom soon enough.

LOL, will we know about the size of the condom too?

umm I dont want to know the size. Some things should remain unknown LOL.

It could be TMI or TMTH (From Danny Noriega)

ImMattGiraud RT @ginnyclone: @ImMattGiraud ADAM’S TIME FOR MIRACLES WAS JUST RELEASED.ALLISON AND KRIS’S SINGLES ARE ALSO OUT. THOUGHTS? I’m very proud.

have not seen anything from Ali or any of the other idols.

ljsmack: I’m wondering if we aren’t witnessing a unique viral ‘  a star is born ‘  blog, YT and Twitter shaped if not ‘created’  moment. I’m not ignoring Adams talent sex appeal ( or talented sex appeal) or charisma but I’m in awe of the power of this phenomen. Are you?

I have been in the marketing, branding and PR business for a very long time — and I have never seen anything like this. Yes, it is unique IMO. And yes Adam has forged a new path to fame — and it did not involve traditional radio. (Now 19/RCA will use Radio and TV to build on that fame.)

Sometimes a singer/entertainer becomes famous at the right time for the culture. Elvis arrived when two things were happening — 1. women were becoming more independent and sexually free and 2. Radio exposed white audiences to authentic (black) Rock & Roll music. Enter Elvis — who was too controversial for radio and had to perform on TV instead, inventing a new path for marketing new artists.

The Beattles failed to sell in the US, couldn’t get airplay, and were considered unsuitable for the US Market — in part because of their haircuts. US chart success came after a 5 minute CBS news broadcast about Beatlemania in the UK triggered requests to radio stations for Beatles songs and great demand, leading Capitol to rush-release “I Want to Hold Your Hand” in December 1963. Less than 2 months later, they gave their first live US television performance on The Ed Sullivan Show, watched by approximately seventy-four million viewers’”about half the population at the time. The Beatles had the right music and the right level of soft anti-establishment attitude to capture a large part of the Baby Boomers.

I am not saying that Adam is Elvis or The Beattles because that level of mass success may not be posible in the current fragmented marketplace for anyone. And who knows how far Adam will go.

But what I do think is that Idol made Adam famous and social networking has continued to build that fame and his fanbase. And this is a new path to fame. And I also think that Adam is culturally relevant as a style icon and as a 21st century sex symbol, and there is a chance that his album may have the right mix of noveau glam electro fusion fun to suit the current recession and war weary world. (2009 is very similar to 1973-1975 which was when glam rock, punk rock and modern dance/electronica hit the mainstream.

schoolmama
October 20, 2009 at 2:46 pm
ImMattGiraud RT @ginnyclone: @ImMattGiraud ADAM’S TIME FOR MIRACLES WAS JUST RELEASED.ALLISON AND KRIS’S SINGLES ARE ALSO OUT. THOUGHTS? I’m very proud.

From Matt not saying to much, have not seen anything from Ali or any of the other idols.

That was nice of Matt to select the question and answer it during his twitter party last night.

LOL, will we know about the size of the condom too?

He’s a rock star. Of course, he’s going to say extra extra large. Heck, some of these rock stars probably get their favorite brand of condom tattoo’d across their back.

Here’s the diff between Cook and Adam:

I went to Cook’s concert (awesome, BTW) in Providence, RI two weekends ago. I was at a pub with a friend eating before the show. Whom did we see right in front of us but DAVID COOK? He was wearing a plaid shirt (ala Kris, lol) and a hat (LOVE HIS HATS), just ordering a drink. Two young girls came over to him and asked to take a picture with him (one had a shirt that read COOK on the back). He politely said no (this may be because he wasn’t feeling well–he was still recovering from tonsilitis-or because he was just hungry). They were disappointed but left him alone. Then he went to eat w/ the boyz at a corner table (but facing the street; don’t know if there were any oglers, but the pub was set off the street).

I met an online friend there with two of her friends. They declined sitting with us and took the table next to David, OF COURSE (they are in their 30s). One was pretty obnoxious and went over to him and asked for his pic or something (I hope he said no, since he was eating and then playing dice with his band members). As he left, I nicely said, Have a nice show, David and he said thank you and left. No hoopla. I can see that happening to Kris or Matt and maybe Danny. I can NOT see that happening to Adam. They are just two types of performers or personalities, and that’s fine. I hope the creepy fans are leaving Cook alone now–I didn’t see anything obnoxious at the venue, which seats 750–but I was talking to one of Ryan Star’s bandmates (whom I thought was Ryan, hee hee) and saw the girls around Ryan (who was VERY polite and signed autographs, etc).

They are going to have very different careers, I believe, both great, just different. And I hope Kris and Allison (and Matt!!!) do as well (#signmattgiraud).

ETA: I think Adam will be more successful over the long term than Kris, but it’s not a competition. Again, their successes will be far different. Kris is very talented, IMO, but not a phenomenon.

Twitter has hit the wall ‘“ over capacity ‘“ another indication of the Adam storm!?

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Uh, I don’t think so. Adam and his single are not trending. MLB, Rhianna and New Moon are trending. http://whatthetrend.com/

So given this “storm”, Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

The watercooler fascination with Mr. Lambert has been there since Ring of Fire. There are many elements to this public fascination, some of which we are not allowed to discuss at MJ’s.

I hope I’m not treading on dangerous waters here, but what is it we’re not allowed to discuss, hwc? I didn’t get the memo.

hypnoticwhisper
October 20, 2009 at 1:16 pm

‘There’s a feeling of entitlement [with the fans] because they voted to get us where we are,’  he says, just a trifle irritated. ‘But you know what? I am responsible for what I created on that show’”you voted for what I created, and thank you, but I created it, you didn’t.’ 

I knew Adam was candid, but wow’ ¦..

I understand where he’s coming from but other people might take that the wrong way.

Adam was tweeted quite a bit about this yesterday, nonsense about how the fans put him where he is today. Adam is absolutely correct, we voted for him yes, but – he is who he is no matter how many people voted for him.

Better to get some of these misconceptions out of the way now. The fans didn’t “make” him. He made himself.

So given this ‘storm’ , should Adam easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads?? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

That depends. Downloads are predominantly driven by the teen market that also drives top 40 radio. It is yet to be determined whether or not Mr. Lambert has traction in that market.

Photoshoot is so much fun, however I wish I didn’t read DLISTED’s take on it, because now all I can see is KD Lang and Cindy Crawford. LOL.

I liked the part of the Details vid where Adam is flipping off the camera. L.O.L.

will:

I can’t discuss it. I will be put in moderation. I can only suggest that you go back and look up coverage that Mr. Lambert was receiving (for example, on Fox News and the cover of Entertainment Weekly) while American Idol was still in progress. You also might see if you can find the video and see the very first question asked of Mr. Lambert in the press conference ten minutes after the finale ended. Those will all provide some context for the early fascination and for what we are seeing now.

So given this ‘storm’ , Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no?

I think that Archie’s number is beyond phenomenal and I would be happy if Adam made it to 100,000. Just remember this is domestic sales only…no European or world wide numbers included. Archie came off Idol with tremendous love and affection from his fans and they and the newies he has attracted have been loyal and have dug deep into their pocket books to support him.

Thanks sidewalkstory & suebrody

LOL, will we know about the size of the condom too?

Well, we know his shoe size

“And, no, not every woman wants to sleep with Adam Lambert. I think he’s fabulous, but sleep with him? Uh, not ever.”

Sleep with him, no, but shop with him, hell yes!

So given this ‘storm’ , Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

Interesting to think about. I honestly don’t know. Archie was quite the highly anticipated tween/teen heartthrob IIRC and he did get to debut the single on Z100, the #1 market. Different economic times too.

If I had to bet, I’d probably lean negatively if we’re comparing US sales only, but adding international? I think Adam just might top that, yes. Maybe wishful thinking… It is an odd song in today’s current trends, after all.

Regardless, this is fun to watch!

Q3:

The only quibble I have is that I don’t really see the Lambert phenomenom as being particularly driven by social networking. The YouTube vdeos played a role, but that has been the case with top American Idol contenders for several years now. I don’t see that Lambert has made any particularly strong use of Twitter or Facebook or MySpace. If anything he seemed to use those tools a bit less than other Idol contenders.

I got it this morning as a birthday present

Happy Birthday, dyg1!. And when you blow out more candles later today, could you mention all our names and “win the lottery”? Because your first wishes, about Adam breaking Pop’s Top Ten before lunch, is really working out.

I just watched the details video in the college library and someone walked by and looked at me like i was watching something very x rated hahahaaa

So given this ‘storm’ , should Adam easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads?? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

I don’t think that TfM is comparable to other Idol alum singles. It is being used to market 2012 — even the iTunes banner was a 2012 ad with a smaller reference to Adam’s song. The song is 4:44 minutes long, not designed for radio airplay and will not be the song Adam is performing to promote his album.

I am generally not a big fan of the Idol Comparison game, but if y’all want to compare, I recommend waiting until Adam releases his TBD single from “For You Entertainment”.

I just have to chime in about Brian Mansfield. He is an Adam fan. I don’t think Adam was his favorite, and he didn’t like everything he did on the show, but he always appreciated Adam’s talent. And, wasn’t Brian the guy who said that ACIGC was, perhaps, the best performance he had ever witnessed on Idol?

Allison didn’t tweet anything about TFM. She responded to Adam’s tweet about working with Howard Benson with a tweet agreeing with Adam that Benson was great. Of course, she used different words, I just am too old to remember them

Very possible, her Tweets are almost incomprehensible to me so I ignore them. I like her, but her Tweets…oy vey.

Nice of Matt to Tweet something about Adam’s TfM being released, very cool. I think that Adam has Tweeted as part of the sign Matt campaigns and I think for Anoop as well for his. Could be wrong, Twitter is only not the devil when it gives me pictures or song details.

‘And, no, not every woman wants to sleep with Adam Lambert. I think he’s fabulous, but sleep with him? Uh, not ever.’ 

I think Adam is extremely attractive and sexy. but I do not want to make out with him/ sleep with him. Even if I find a guy who’s attractive that doesn’t mean I would want to sleep with him. Call me old fashioned?

Am I the only Adam fan who’s semi coservative? hahaha

Very possible, her Tweets are almost incomphrensible to me so I ignore them. I like her, but her Tweets’ ¦oy vey.

LOL..that’s me too. The only reason I knew it was about Benson was that she responded directly to Adam’s tweet so if you clicked the “in reply to” words you could see Adam’s tweet about working with him.

It was really nice for Matt to select that question and give that answer in his Twitter Party last night, very sweet.

Between Q3′s excellent dissertation on all things aligned for Adam’s path to fame and this

hwc
October 20, 2009 at 2:50 pm

LOL, will we know about the size of the condom too?

He’s a rock star. Of course, he’s going to say extra extra large. Heck, some of these rock stars probably get their favorite brand of condom tattoo’d across their back.

I’d say there is an embarrassing riches of talent on this board. So many excellent viewpoints, styles of wit and humor, and willing teamwork. The teamwork really impresses me.

I, for one, like how Adam repeatedly acknowledges that he is Jewish….it may not seem like a big deal in major urban areas like nyc and la, but in the hinterlands there are not a ton of us and it is nice, especially for kids, to see that there are other jewish people out there…also, AI is considered a fairly christian show by some (there have been articles written about this….), so it is good to publicly acknowledge that there is diversity among its contestants

hwc

I am not particularly surprised, no. The watercooler fascination with Mr. Lambert has been there since Ring of Fire. There are many elements to this public fascination, some of which we are not allowed to discuss at MJ’s.

My theory is that pop music is the singing equivalent of celebrity magazines like People, Entertainment Weekly, etc. Those who have celebrity personas attract interest.

In this case, we have a somewhat unique phenomenom taking place. Mr. Lambert is one of, if not the first, openly gay man to be explicitly marketed as a sex symbol in the United States. The only other name people can come up with is Neil Patrick Harris and it’s debateable whether Doogie Howser was marketed more as a sex symbol or puppy dog. Part of the fascination with Mr. Lambert is that it’s uncharted waters.

This, and don’t forget for many years there hasn’t been any guy in the US with Adam’s talent and charisma. He is also incredibly gorgeous to boot. There is so much about Adam that spells stardom.

So, Adam may not break any sales records, but that won’t hurt his stardom one bit (unless his sales are pretty pathetic). Look at what’s happening with him now, and this is just the beginning.

It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

I didn’t pay super close attention last year, but didn’t Archie have the benefit of a few weeks of radio play before “Crush” went on sale? Adam hasn’t had that…so I’m inclined to call it even.

Happy Birthday, dyg1!. And when you blow out more candles later today, could you mention all our names and ‘win the lottery’ ? Because your first wishes, about Adam breaking Pop’s Top Ten before lunch, is really working out.

How about saying “black swan for Adam and his fans”? Sorry non-fans.

ETA: will keep reading, but out of respect to my friends, might not be posting

Am I the only Adam fan who’s semi coservative?

I don’t want to sleep with Adam Lambert.

Q3andhwc thx for your thoughtful analyses. I remember the beatles on Ed Sullivan but since only 3 channels then the audience was huge which gets to hwc’s point about fragmented audiences. It will be a continuing saga (sorry saga the poster.)

Am I the only Adam fan who’s semi coservative?

I don’t want to sleep with Adam Lambert.

LOL hwc, but I’m betting you didn’t hate the Details photo shoot…

Lots o’ digital eye candy. Something for everyone…

In this case, we have a somewhat unique phenomenom taking place. Mr. Lambert is one of, if not the first, openly gay man to be explicitly marketed as a sex symbol in the United States.

hwc, love your post, as so often do, but gotta go with something close to “Earth-shattering” about Adam being the first openly gay sex symbol with mainstream power. In the same year Prop 8 deludes into passing? With DADT still on the books?

It’s a social change of such magnitude, pretty much zero of the big progressive blogs have even noticed. Because so much ignorance still hogs the news. And the legal structure is way behind ever-changing American opinion. People who tried raising the significance of Adam’s popularity on the otherwise forward-looking & fascinating DailyKos made no inroads.

But the realization that any number of conference rooms will be happily considering this proudly gay man as product endorser BECAUSE he is scorchingly sexy and intensely masculine almost makes me think the revolution will be televised. Actually has been – on America’s favorite television show.

So, Adam may not break any sales records, but that won’t hurt his stardom one bit

Absolutely, this! Some entertainers live and die by sales for their albums and singles. They don’t have the ability, the fan base, or (face it) the celebritism to go beyond the envelope. Adam is a “package” and, that isn’t the easiest thing to find these days. Some singers put out georgeous music, but are so bland that NO ONE wants to stay up and watch them on a talk show or spend $100 for a concert ticket or fork down $10 for a magazine where they are featured (so they don’t get these kind of gigs).

As much as many many peep think that its all about the music are only burying their heads in the sand. Some of the most popular and biggest money makers put out pretty mediocre music and they survive in the business their entire lives. Having a nice voice and singing well isn’t a path to instant success…actually, far from it.

It’s a social change of such magnitude, pretty much zero of the big progressive blogs have even noticed.

Don’t get me started. This isn’t the place. I would argue that the progressive blogs and their favored politicos are profoundly anti-gay when it comes to walking the walk.

Saw this tweet on twitter and thought it was funny

so in science today my teacher asked what is the hottest thing on the plannet and i said @AdamLambert.XD but i was wrong. its some chemical

LMAO

‘And, no, not every woman wants to sleep with Adam Lambert. I think he’s fabulous, but sleep with him? Uh, not ever.’ 

lol .. yeah it is a bit of a generalisation

I don’t want to sleep with him either .. if I was ever in the position to be in bed with him the last thing I’d want to do is sleep!!!!

Great to see TFM moving up the various charts … I just wish they’d hurry up and put it on UK iTunes .. I feel like I’m living in a very backward and uncivilised country …lol

What is the link people are using for updated ranking of Itunes. My itunes is so behind, even when I refresh, or log out then back in. Help.

Oh did I mentioned that the Itunes version of TFM is so much better then what was ever on Youtube. Loving more and more and more.

mmb, I can’t believe that I just sent an email to someone expressing that same sentiment. I, too, am proud that during some interviews Adam has verbally embraced his Jewish upbringing.

happy birthday dyg1!!!!

What is the link people are using for updated ranking of Itunes. My itunes is so behind, even when I refresh, or log out then back in. Help.

Here is the link — in order to refresh you must manually change at least one digit in the number that follows “sf”:

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml

But the realization that any number of conference rooms will be happily considering this proudly gay man as product endorser BECAUSE he is scorchingly sexy and intensely masculine almost makes me think the revolution will be televised. Actually has been ‘“ on America’s favorite television show.

Which is even more interesting given that the wink and chuckle “gay joke” has been a weekly staple of the show for its first seven seasons.

I don’t want to sleep with him either .. if I was ever in the position to be in bed with him the last thing I’d want to do is sleep!!!!

Ha ha! My sentiments exactly!!

And for those of you who are wondering about the things that cannot be discussed, I suggest you watch this link carefully… it gets very interesting at certain points… hee hee heee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJM08fl5CU&feature=PlayList&p=3F2F40E20A0448B2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=15

Here is the link ‘” in order to refresh you must manually change at least one digit in the number that follows ‘sf’ :

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml

Thank you!!!!

hwc
Q3: The only quibble I have is that I don’t really see the Lambert phenomenom as being particularly driven by social networking. The YouTube vdeos played a role, but that has been the case with top American Idol contenders for several years now. I don’t see that Lambert has made any particularly strong use of Twitter or Facebook or MySpace. If anything he seemed to use those tools a bit less than other Idol contenders.

Only a quibble — today is getting better all the time!

The Beatles broke thru in the US because a teenage girl in Washington DC saw the CBS News report about The Beatles and called the local radio station to request a Beatles song (a UK import — very unlikely to be played AM radio station in 1963). People heard it and more girls called in requests and it began.

Adam didn’t orchestrate the social networking that drove his fame, his fans did. They organized online in literally thousands of communities across the globe — and they have built very deep relationships with other fans. Adam, the media and fans gave these communities enough fuel to keep the fire burning all summer. And last week, when the active marketing of Adam began, the communities were already established and waiting for it. This is not unique to Adam, it is part of the whole Idol process. But the strength of the relationships that fans have with each other and with Adam is unique.

You can inform people through social networks but it is difficult to establish personal relationships between a celebrity and fans thru digital media. I spend most of my RL time working in the area of user/customer experience management, virtual-mass media integration and brand messaging. I have been lucky enough to be working on a project that involves celebrity brands right now — and Adam happened to be on the celebrity list. It is private research but I can say that the Adam numbers are unique and so stunning/unheard of that we are back in the field doing confirmation work. But right now it is either a statistical outlier that will not be confirmed in the 2nd set of interview OR he really is Sunn’s “Black Swan”. As an analyst, I’m not taking a position on this one.

in part because of their haircuts. US chart success came after a 5 minute CBS news broadcast about Beatlemania in the UK

And the Ed Sullivan show you so rightly mention. All as viral as the 1960′s could get. And the same kind of “grassroots” momentum. Females taking one look at those haircuts, that charisma, that talent, seeing something they’d never seen before and screaming “More, more, a thousand times, more!”

Great post, Q3. I’m right there with you in the never seen anything like this before category.

And think that a big part of that is the technological aspects. The cheap, swift power and proliferation of technology has created the “perfect timing” in society you mention about all phenoms for Adam. The community and echo and expansion powers of the web and Twitter combined with TV, and the cheap easy access to video and instant interaction, are turning Adam’s insane talent and pheremones into global sensation. Like Elvis, and the Beatles, it’s bottom-up marketing. The corporations aren’t in charge. (Obligatory “R.U.KiddingMe???” reference to AO’s templatey, unreadable, Question of last summer’s Day video, 2002 style presence)

If Paul McCartney & John Lennon had had the internet, they would have busted it many times over. Hard Day’s Night is one of the best movies ever made. Imagine if Lester had been able to post it in little segments on the web.

Imagine if downloads had been available right after the Ed Sullivan show? Not just server crashes, blackouts would have ensued.

mmb
October 20, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I, for one, like how Adam repeatedly acknowledges that he is Jewish’ ¦.it may not seem like a big deal in major urban areas like nyc and la, but in the hinterlands there are not a ton of us and it is nice, especially for kids, to see that there are other jewish people out there’ ¦also, AI is considered a fairly christian show by some (there have been articles written about this’ ¦.), so it is good to publicly acknowledge that there is diversity among its contestants

Nice post mmb. Oh yes, the demographic of AI has always been considered middle American Christians. Whether it helps or hurts Adam’s career, he puts it all out there. He doesn’t feel like he needs to hide/avoid anything, even the fact that he was fat and had acne in high school. I realize Adam wants to concentrate on his music career, but by being upfront about who he is, like it or not, he really is a role model for young people. I see his message loud and clear: Be proud of who you are.

As I play my fianlly legal copy of TfM for the 5,672th time, I need to know: Can wear out a digital file?

Favorite quote from the Laura Saltman interview where Adam describes the Details magazine photoshoot:

ADAM: “It was organic…”

Second favorite quote:

LAURA: “There may be some people who are a little conservative who might be put off by these pictures.”

ADAM: “Good”

is there a YouTube for the reaction (details) Adam interview thing?

omg. that video was HILARIOUS. all the bleeping of his reactions! and his snarky looks to the camera! (like he’s saying really, conservative people? how are you surprised by me at this point??) god i love him.

if i was laura i would not have been able to hold it together as well.

ETA: agreed halfie! ….”good”

and i thought that was cute that he told the model (who was nervous about being nude) “aren’t you glad you’re doing this with a gay guy”

time until fye(actually now tht I’m used to it,I kinda flive that title …)
33  days, 9  hours, 15  minutes and 21  seconds

OOooooo…aaaaa! I see the entire video of the detail interview. Love him.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/10/adam-lambert-goes-heterosexual-for-details-magazine-records-with-lady-gaga-.html

I see tfm at #12….

But the strength of the relationships that fans have with each other and with Adam is unique.

I think the online communities of Lambert fans were actually less strong than we have seen in previous years. For example, Taylor Hicks had stronger on-line communities than I have seen with Mr. Lambert. For example, Mr. Lambert never had anything like the Gray Charles blog. By the time Idol ended that season, on-line fan bases were actually planning weekend gatherings at places like the Flora-Bama Lounge in Gufl Shores, Alabama. I haven’t seen that level of online community and certainly not as early this year. Part of that is that American Idol, itself, is simply as relevant as it used to be. Part of it is that Mr. Lambert’s fanbase is a bit more heterogeneous, covering less squee-prone demographics.

Favorite quote from the Laura Saltman interview where Adam describes the

Details magazine photoshoot:

ADAM: ‘It was organic’ ¦’ 

Second favorite quote:

LAURA: ‘There may be some people who are a little conservative who might be put off by these pictures.’ 

ADAM: ‘Good’ 

Do you guys have a link to that interview by any chance?

Do you guys have a link to that interview by any chance?

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1168262

Seems the top 10 is a hard nut to crack… come on now, just one more step up…

Do you guys have a link to that interview by any chance?

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1168262

Thank you.

Am I the only Adam fan who’s semi coservative?

I don’t want to sleep with Adam Lambert.

Adam’s attractiveness is interesting. When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there. I think my body knows he is gay or he just does not give off those straight male pheromones. I have been close to him twice and it was the same each time. He takes your breath away but he doesn’t quite connect with you sexually. Well I am a girl and not with me anyway.

Am I the only Adam fan who’s semi coservative?

I don’t want to sleep with Adam Lambert.

Adam’s attractiveness is interesting. When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there. I think my body knows he is gay or he just does not give off those straight male pheromones. I have been close to him twice and it was the same each time. He takes your breath away but he doesn’t quite connect with you sexually. Well I am a girl and not with me anyway.

I saw that video earlier and Adam was making me laugh so much. His really a charmer. And very easy on the eye’s also. His really enjoying the ride, that’s for sure.

So given this ‘storm’ , Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

I’d say nope. Overall sales continue to drop. So everybody’s going to sell a lot less this year than they did by reaching the same chart positions last year for the most part.

Plus, Archie had a lot of those teen fans *and* a lot of pop radio play. That drives sales much more than any pre-existing fandom, I expect. And that radio kept increasing day by day, so it drove sales more and more. With TFM, I think there may be a couple of initial splashes this week that will drive a bunch of sales (for that first week total) but after that I think it’ll be a while — i.e., until more movie stuff comes out and impinges on people’s consciousnesses, like the video teamed with MJ (good grief) — before you get the day-to-day build of the song that keeps those sales really humming …. unless they go for radio adds at pop and it takes off in the next few days, of course. Then all bets would be off, I guess!

And if you’re counting international sales … then all bets are off again, I’m thinking.

Q3…Legit, I am playing it for the 104th time and I really did have a good nights sleep after Adam hit 100 and I was given permission to head to bed. There is something about the song and his voice that just permeates the senses and you hear something different and unique on every go round.

Nice of Matt to Tweet something about Adam’s TfM being released, very cool.

The other AIers know if they don’t say something they’ll be bombarded by tweets demanding to know why they haven’t acknowledged it.

As far as predictions about Adam’s sales, the fact is he’s being rolled out in a way, with massive mainstream media interest, that is unparalleled for a former AIer. He’s already a celebrity, famous pretty much just for being famous and facinating. If he doesn’t do extremely well with his first radio single and his album, there won’t be anybody to blame but Adam as it will just prove that no matter how much money is spent, and no matter what the media says, America still decides if they want what they are being served.

I suspect he’s going to see massive sales, perhaps even surpassing Clay’s first week for his 1st cd. If he’s not, then he’s probably on the trajectory of being famous for simply being famous, ala Paris Hilton, which would suck.

ok we have allison’s cover art… i want to see adam’s!! (although i guess i shouldnt be greedy on such a great day!)

This is probably way OT (tell me MJ if it is), but I’ve been wondering if anyone else (Q3? FifthHouseSun?) is wondering whether the new social media, especially Twitter, is changing how we define / relate to celebrities. Twitter seems to be the first opportunity for celebrities to speak directly and instantly to their fans and vice versa, without the filter of PR. Is it breaking down that wall and maybe the mystery?

It seems to me (and this is the first time I’ve followed a celebrity) that Adam is on the leading edge of what could be a breakdown between “them” and “us.” The combination of AI (we feel we know him) and his candid personality makes him feel like one of “us”. Part of his appeal? It is for me.

Somebody in above tread said how nice of Adam to keep stating that
he is Jewish. But why is he not half-Jewish, like Pink. She states both
of her parent’s heritage. Even if Eber doesn’t care to emphasize his
side of the equation, his heritage should not go for zero.
I like Adam. I have pre-ordered his album.

Tess: Legit, I am playing it for the 104th time and I really did have a good nights sleep after Adam hit 100 and I was given permission to head to bed. There is something about the song and his voice that just permeates the senses and you hear something different and unique on every go round.

Honestly, it is just the quality of his vocal and the amazing vocals — because the song is just OK — but his voice is just unreal.

Now all I need is some audio wizard who can drop out everything except the vocals and the vocal backtrack for me. So I have a pure “just Adam” version.

That Access Hollywood interview is a hoot. This guy is just a star. That’s all you can say.

So given this ‘storm’ , Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.
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I’d say nope. Overall sales continue to drop. So everybody’s going to sell a lot less this year than they did by reaching the same chart positions last year for the most part.
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Well, Carrie sold 110,000 units of Cowboy Casanova at that was in October of 2009. So given this raging “adamstorm”, should he sell that much? Just curious, since y’all seem to be focusing on how “big” he is?

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1168262

I’m laughing so hard right now. Never change, Adam.

Details is going to be interesting now more mainstream news are picking it up…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/adam-lambert-goes-hetero_n_327262.html

While I get it and love the photos and the intent (ahem read the article people). Nuance is usually lost on the boneheaded mainstream. But AL likes to shake it up and get people talking. Well – check! mission accomplished.

But why is he not half-Jewish

Correct me if I’m wrong but I was always taught that being jewish was passed down through the female. So if your mother is jewish you are jewish…not half.

I suspect he’s going to see massive sales, perhaps even surpassing Clay’s first week for his 1st cd. If he’s not, then he’s probably on the trajectory of being famous for simply being famous, ala Paris Hilton, which would suck.

I don’t think so. I think he’ll attract and continue to attract quite a lot of music fans, so that he’ll sell much more steadily over time than Clay though he won’t make that kind of super-crazy-splash at first (though his first splash will be good.)…..

Clay was just plain and simple not *relevant* to the music industry or to contemporary music. He’s a talented singer, and he ignited a huge squee factor with a certain large group of fans. But neither the songs he’s sung nor the way in which he’s sung them have been of a sort to attract a steady *music* fanbase or steady critical approval or radio play.

Adam will sing stuff that’s got contemporary appeal. Not to everyone, of course, but to way way more people than Clay did — for one thing, Adam is *interested* in selling commercial songs, while Clay pretty much set himself up in opposition to the directions the music industry goes.

I suspect he’s going to see massive sales, perhaps even surpassing Clay’s first week for his 1st cd.

The days of having massive album sales is over. The sales has gone down 15% every year for a long time. Clay’s first in 2003. You do the math.

Archuleta not out yet No? My friend has a crush on him says when Archuleta becomes 18 he’ll write him love letter. Adam is too sexy.

halfnhalf
October 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Somebody in above tread said how nice of Adam to keep stating that
he is Jewish. But why is he not half-Jewish, like Pink. She states both
of her parent’s heritage. Even if Eber doesn’t care to emphasize his
side of the equation, his heritage should not go for zero.
I like Adam. I have pre-ordered his album.

Well, Judaism is determined by the mother. So according to Judaism, Adam is 100% Jewish, not half Jewish. By the same token, if only his dad were Jewish, he’d be considerd (by Judaism) 100% not Jewish.

And I;m guessing his dad didn’t really mind, otherwise, yeah, he wouldn’t be so quick to claim being Jewish and not “half Jewish”.

On the Twitter question, JMO:

I agree that Twitter allows a new kind of immediate, partially 2-way communication between a celebrity and fans — and fan-2-fan — and fans organized communicating to the world. I don’t think that Adam is on the leading edge of the Twitter wave. But Adam uses Twitter in a very smart way — almost always with a purpose but also with his personality and quick wit.

And Twitter does have an effect — I am certain that today’s sales of TfM were in part inspired by Adam’s tweet to 211K of his “closest friends”.

Well, Carrie sold 110,000 units of Cowboy Casanova at that was in October of 2009. So given this raging ‘adamstorm’ , should he sell that much? Just curious, since y’all seem to be focusing on how ‘big’  he is?

That’s about what I would expect him to sell, actually, unless he starts getting a bunch of radio play or there’s a lot more Adam storm stuff this week than I’m expecting. His real exposure will come with the Jackson movie, though, as far as I know, and that’s not this week, right?

Not to say that I wouldn’t be thrilled if TFM sold 500,000 copies this week! (and I don’t even *like* the song — love Adam, though!)… But seems to me that one has to be realistic about the music industry. Carrie sold well, because country continues to sell pretty well, I think.

I know what you mean Jae. He seems to project that sexy, nice, rebel in public appearances but up close he just seems like the boy next door, sincere, unthreatening, and vulnerable.

Adam’s attractiveness is interesting. When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there. I think my body knows he is gay or he just does not give off those straight male pheromones. I have been close to him twice and it was the same each time. He takes your breath away but he doesn’t quite connect with you sexually. Well I am a girl and not with me anyway.

I have Adam at #11 iTunes US!! Fianlly goodbye to #12. 1 more 2 go.

His real exposure will come with the Jackson movie, though, as far as I know, and that’s not this week, right?

The Jackson movie starts next Wednesday (Oct 27).

nvm… not worth it.

can’t wait to see clips of the video on ET and then the full thing tonight!!!

I suspect he’s going to see massive sales, perhaps even surpassing Clay’s first week for his 1st cd. If he’s not, then he’s probably on the trajectory of being famous for simply being famous, ala Paris Hilton, which would suck.

Even if Adam’s album bombed (which I don’t think will), I don’t see anyone putting him in the category as Paris Hilton. For one, Adam has massive talent. What is Paris good at? Adam has a lot of respect from the industry and media because of his talent. Does Paris? Adam is very charismatic and has a huge personality. I’ve seen Paris in interviews, and I’m still trying to figure what the attraction is. Yes, Adam seems to be a star simply because of his personna. Someone tell me why Paris is a star?

Well, Carrie sold 110,000 units of Cowboy Casanova at that was in October of 2009. So given this raging ‘adamstorm’ , should he sell that much? Just curious, since y’all seem to be focusing on how ‘big’  he is?

We don’t know yet. For example, we don’t know the impact on sales of the signficant percentage of the American pubic that disapproves of Mr. Lambert’s lifestyle. Many of the factors that drive interest in Mr. Lambert are two-way streets.

halfie
October 20, 2009 at 3:32 pm

Here is the link ‘” in order to refresh you must manually change at least one digit in the number that follows ‘sf’ :

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml

Sorry for being so dense but do you mean to change the last digit in the number after sf= to the next sequential no.? I am confused on many points today so I don’t want to assume anything.

Here is the link ‘” in order to refresh you must manually change at least one digit in the number that follows ‘sf’ :

This link doesn’t work for me at all whether I change a number or not. It’s just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Not sure what I’m doing wrong.

Details magazine, #11 in the charts and climbing, (even without the MJ premiere), the video premiere tonight, Adam’s on ET again tonight. Wow! It’s kind of overwhelming and all very exciting at the same time.

I think he’s a star for many reasons, not the least of which is that he is an amazing singer with a charismatic and exciting personality. Keep it coming Adam! We know you are are for our entertainment and we love you for it!

So given this raging ‘adamstorm’ , should he sell that much? Just curious, since y’all seem to be focusing on how ‘big’  he is?

Granted, I’ve been gone fairly often and not paying that close attention, but my reading of the enthusiasm and excitement (aka storm) is that it relates to his buzz and seemingly broad popularity in the media right now. Not really about sales expectations. But, hey, what do I know…

Personally, based on nothing, I feel he’ll sell fairly well. More importantly for me, I’m hoping he has staying power, because he has talent to spare and I want to listen to his creations over time, a long time (or however long I have lol.)

ETA: File in the fwiw category, but Carrie sings country and she’s had over four years to build up a sizable fan base, so I’m not really understanding why she’s relevant to any discussion about sales of this particular soundtrack single? Oh well, guess it goes with the territory.

The Jackson movie starts next Wednesday (Oct 27).

Tuesday 10/27/09 — the run of TII was schedule to Premiere on Tusday, runs for 2 weeks, and then ends on 11/12 the night before the big opening of 2012 on 11/13. There are three Sony projects intertwined: launch of Lambert, MJ’s TII and MJ record sales (Epic/Sony ME), and 2012.

Sorry, but I still don’t get the SF.

As far as Mansfield, I wouldn’t call him a hater, by any means, but I would say that he far prefers Kris and Allison to Adam. Not that it matters in any way, but I am surprised he hasn’t weighed in, which is more of my point. His blog posters, OTOH, have been vehemently anti-Adam for the most part (OTT, flamboyant, wailer, etc, etc.,) so I stopped posting there and told Brian why (b/c we have tweeted and DMed a number of times).

Yes, if you’re Jewish, it’s through your mother. While Adam has been candid that he doesn’t practice, he has always been open and honest about *being* Jewish. So when a poster on here insinuated that Adam would do well in the entertainment industry b/c, er, um, you know, I got defensive. In fact, in Idoldom, you are brave to be someone who is both gay AND Jewish.

You go away for an hour, you get another 75 posts. I cannot keep up.

Late to the party, sitting in the doctor’s office but wanted comment on the Jewish thing. As someone (Tess?) already stated, Judaism (which is an ethnicity as much as a religion) is passed down from the mother. I dated a few Jewish guys which is how I found out.

OK guys – hope I don’t have the flu…doc is coming.

ok, keep putting things in wrong thread so putting this in both and hoping for the best… if wrong, sorry.
I have a question. The video is going to be put on Myspace at midnight and I assume it will then migrate to YT. Will it eventually go on Itunes and Amazon to purchase? and when would that be, any idea?? thanks

hwc
October 20, 2009 at 4:17 pm
We don’t know yet. For example, we don’t know the impact on sales of the signficant percentage of the American pubic that disapproves of Mr. Lambert’s lifestyle. Many of the factors that drive interest in Mr. Lambert are two-way streets.

Ahh, hwc, my friend. As I’m fond of saying, sometimes a typo is just a typo, and sometimes it’s another thought entirely… so that means we can see where your mind is today. It’s all in the Details….

This is the right link.

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml

To use it copy the link into your browser address field. The change one number in the randam sequence number. The bolded number, below, is the random number. You need to use a new number every time:

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml
(EXAMPLE ONLY THE LINK WITH BOLDED NUMBER WILL NOT WORK!)

When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there.

Sounds like a research project I’d be more than willing to participate in to test that hypothesis…

anthrogeek
October 20, 2009 at 4:33 pm
When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there.

Sounds like a research project I’d be more than willing to participate in to test that hypothesis’ ¦

You can do that AFTER i give him a full and complete physical. Have to be sure he’s up to it, after all.

You can do that AFTER i give him a full and complete physical. Have to be sure he’s up to it, after all.

Oh, adamaloha, you’re always trying to usurp my position(s)….

Will it eventually go on Itunes and Amazon to purchase? and when would that be, any idea?? thanks

Yes. It will almost certainly be available for purchase at iTunes and everwhere else music videos are sold.

We don’t know when.

LOL I got a bit confused with the headline…so its premiering at 12 pm tonight, not 12 pm Wednesday night right?
I agree there are too many posts and comments to keep up with…which is a bummer cuz alot of you guys find really good links

LeHommeAdam
October 20, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Archuleta not out yet No? My friend has a crush on him says when Archuleta becomes 18 he’ll write him love letter.

Archie is already 18, LeHommeAdam. It’s cute that your friend has a crush (haha) on him, but there’s no evidence that he’s gay.

hwc thanks. That’s what I thought but it gets really confusing trying to follow all this.

i love adam’s “ooooh that worked out” statement after seeing the picture. i would like to nominate it as “understatement of the year.”

and also “I am her bra” was pretty special too. and i dare you to say “boobs” one more time adam. do it. see what happens. (i will die, that’s what will happen).

I don’t know if Time for Miracles the single will go #1 on Itunes (though I think it stands a damn chance) but the Video will Definitely go to #1.

star
October 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1168262

I’m laughing so hard right now. Never change, Adam. \

SO AWESOME. How CUTE is this? I mean, he just looked like a little kid who was still playing dress up. WHICH IS WHAT HE HAS ALWAYS DONE, and I don’t mean this in in a condescending way. Remember what he and his parents said on Idol? He was the little kid who put on adult clothes and drew a mustache and pretended to be a grown up. Whose mom kept the Halloween costumes in a box so he could play dress up ALL YEAR LONG.

And this has changed because he is now a well-known, enormously talented singer/performer. Otherwise? Nope. Aside from being more secure about who he is (and I am sure he has moments of self-doubt; he mentioned the identity crisis right after the Tour, after playing the same character every night, I would say), he is the same kid, playing Rock Star and having fun, being provocative, and living life.

Laura Saltman is the coolest fantard EVER.

And if Adam doesn’t sell a million copies of TFM, and he won’t (probably,) who cares? He got his music out, he had much more music to release, and he gets to live his dream. I wish we all got to.

Adam is listed as #1 on the “most popular artists” list on the vh1.com site..how did this happen? did people vote? just curious

YouTube of the interview PLEASE..thnx….

When I see pics and vids of him, I almost pass out from his sexyness. But up close, its weird. He looks just as good but there is NO sexual vibe there.

Anthro: Sounds like a research project I’d be more than willing to participate in to test that hypothesis’ ¦

Anthro, You need a number of samplings. I’ll volunteer.

sigh.I can’t stay up 4 the video D:….maybe I’ll sneak downstairs to see the YouTube….

anthrogeek
October 20, 2009 at 4:39 pm
You can do that AFTER i give him a full and complete physical. Have to be sure he’s up to it, after all.

Oh, adamaloha, you’re always trying to usurp my position(s)’ ¦.

I could never do that. I concede the top spot to you. Oh, wait….

LOL I got a bit confused with the headline’ ¦so its premiering at 12 pm tonight, not 12 pm Wednesday night right?

I don’t know how much more explicit MJ could have been — she said “that’s TONIGHT peeps.”

Since several posters had responded to my Adam-half-Jewish thing,
how can ethnicity be passed on only thru the mother, if so, our
President Obama would be 100% white and 0% black.

BestAI: Anthro, You need a number of samplings. I’ll volunteer.

I think in this case we should eschew statistical significance for a small random sample size… anthropologists do prefer qualitative evidence over quantitative, after all.

His real exposure will come with the Jackson movie, though, as far as I know, and that’s not this week, right?

The Jackson movie starts next Wednesday (Oct 27).

Goody. That ought to guarantee strong week two sales, right??!

Luv, sorry but don’t think its been put on utube yet. just searched for it.

tfm will be on the album?! AWESOME.flail and SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we BETTER still get a first single though…

Adamaloha: You can do that AFTER i give him a full and complete physical. Have to be sure he’s up to it, after all.

Anthro: Oh, adamaloha, you’re always trying to usurp my position(s)’ ¦.

Am I reading too much into this conversation? And do we even trust adamaloha’s prognosis? I don’t. Step aside, aa. I have an examining room set up just for this purpose.

suebrody: Yes, if you’re Jewish, it’s through your mother. While Adam has been candid that he doesn’t practice, he has always been open and honest about *being* Jewish. So when a poster on here insinuated that Adam would do well in the entertainment industry b/c, er, um, you know, I got defensive. In fact, in Idoldom, you are brave to be someone who is both gay AND Jewish.

IMO Adam has been more open about his Jewish background than Elliott was during his time on Idol.

Your comment reminded me of an odd coincidence — Adam’s mother is Jewish — so was David Bowie’s. Of course, Gene Simmons is also Jewish, so it may not mean much!

OT but a clarification about your comment – There is no central Jewish authority like exists in many Christian and Islamic demonimations. But almost all American Reformed Jewish congregations are committed to equality and believe that you are Jewish is either your Mother or Father is Jewish.

The majority of American Jews are not active members of a congregation — often referred to as cultural Jews. I would put Adam in this category.

halfnhalf — its jewish law, that judaism passes thru the mother…that being said, plenty of people with jewish fathers and non-jewish mothers are raised jewish and consider themselves jewish….however, the ultra orthodox sect would not consider them jewish unless they converted

I don’t know if Time for Miracles the single will go #1 on Itunes (though I think it stands a damn chance) but the Video will Definitely go to #1.

Yep, on Itunes and on every possible countdown, top-video listing and sales outlet!

thanks beehiway (((((hugs))))))

Since several posters had responded to my Adam-half-Jewish thing,
how can ethnicity be passed on only thru the mother, if so, our
President Obama would be 100% white and 0% black.

I’m Jewish. It is with Judaism. I can’t speak for other religions/ethnicities (isn’t Jewish ethnicity Arshkenazi or Sephardic?) .

Anyway…moving right along.

I love Laura’s interview. LOVE IT. She is adorable, and he feels so comfortable around her. They are both so giddy.

I want the magazine. Two days. I should be able to get it in two days!!!

ETA: I read the comments regarding religion above. Thanks. I am also a cultural but non-practicing Jew. That is, I am not religious but I would never deny being Jewish. My family raised my sisters and me in a Reformed household, which is less…stringent?…than the Conservative and of course Orthodox sects (is sects correct?). What I like about Adam is that he is candid about this, as he is about his sexual preference. No secrets with Adam (at least not the ones he feels are applicable for the public to know; what he shares with his family and friends are not our business).

deleting – not worth the discussion that’s likely to ensue and meander even further OT

LOL Just saw this on Details. Don’t know if I just missed it earlier when I explored the site or if it’s new (because I can’t keep up with all the comments on all these different threads).

“Until the end of the month, the idolized rocker will count down his obsessions. Yes, that means you’ll know his preferred eyeliner and condom soon enough.”

Link:http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2009/10/adam-lambert-fave-eight.html

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1168262

I’m laughing so hard right now. Never change, Adam. \

Laura is great with Adam- she brings out his fun side! I loved the Adam-bra!
And someone needs to keep that boy full of champagne!!!!!

IMO Adam has been more open about his Jewish background than Elliott was during his time on Idol.

That’s because there was never any doubt in anybody’s mind that Elliott was Jewish, whereas with Adam it’s not so clear — Adam’s *entire* family is *not* Jewish, he doesn’t inherit a Jewish name from his father, and he doesn’t necessarily “look” Jewish, unlike the completely utterly Jewish Elliott, so Adam kind of ended up having to *inform* people of the fact. With his name, his Israeli relatives, his father’s name posted on the tv screen when he was in the audience, etc. I’m pretty sure Elliott absolutely assumed that everybody would just *know* that he was Jewish (even though some people may *not* have known — although I would think you’d have to be living under a rock to miss it, but still.)

If you’re trying to say that Elliott’s ever made any effort to hide the fact, when you say he “wasn’t as *open*” about it, you’re way off base. He wears SuperJew teeshirts and the like and talks about his Israeli family and his Jewish heritage on a regular basis and always has.

lucy

Goody. That ought to guarantee strong week two sales, right??!

Maybe. Only if the movie does well.

(((hugs))) back. Anytime!

mmb
October 20, 2009 at 4:57 pm
its jewish law, that judaism passes thru the mother’ ¦that being said, plenty of people with jewish fathers and non-jewish mothers are raised jewish and consider themselves jewish’ ¦.however, the ultra orthodox sect would not consider them jewish unless they converted

mmb, thanks for the clarification.

Um, so, Adam is still at #11 on iTunes and #9 on pop charts. Come on, ppl, get Adam into the top 10, please! I am sick of BEP, so let’s bump them down a couple of notches.

stopthemusic
October 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm
lucy

Goody. That ought to guarantee strong week two sales, right??!

Maybe. Only if the movie does well.

I don’t think this is true. Adam’s known ad a visually exciting artist. Those cheapo videos of the AI performances stayed on the iTunes charts forever.

I think Adam’s sales of music and video will not be tied significantly to the box office of the movie. He’ll do well regardless.
Of course– if the movie does gangbusters.. Adam sales will go up even more.

Whoever is buying John Mayer songs. Just stop it okay. Stop it.

So given this ‘storm’ , Adam should easily crush Archie’s 166,000 in downloads for his first week of sales, no? It’ll be interesting because Archie got didn’t get half of this when Crush dropped.

I never can tell what chart positions equate to numbers wise – and it seems to differ from week to week anyway. Crush was a really catchy pop tune that people really seemed to like from the get go. I wouldn’t be so certain that this movie song can achieve the same thing.

The other AIers know if they don’t say something they’ll be bombarded by tweets demanding to know why they haven’t acknowledged it.

I’m guessing that those attack-tweeters are just the very kind of entitled fans Adam finds annoying.

Luv, sorry but don’t think its been put on utube yet. just searched for it.

Can’t believe those kids in ontd_ai or idf haven’t put up youtube version. They usually are very quick on this. Maybe there are too many things to flail today.

halfnhalf: Since several posters had responded to my Adam-half-Jewish thing, how can ethnicity be passed on only thru the mother, if so, our President Obama would be 100% white and 0% black.

Judism is a religion not an ethnicity. In Jewish tradition you can be born a Jew if your mother is Jewish or convert to Judism. Because paternaty could not be certain, the requirement was based on the mother who could be identified with certainty. There is no “baptism” in Judism — if your mother (or Reformed Judism a parent) is Jewish you are Jewish if you want to be.

Elvis Presley was Jewish through maternal descent – but raised as First Assembly of God Church/Pentecostal. As an adult, Elvis did not believe the Bible in any traditional sense… Elvis constructed “a personalised religion out of what he’d read of Hinduism, Judaism, numerology, theosophy, mind control, positive thinking and Christianity. There are several great books about Elvis and his spirituality.

Famous Jewish converts include Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor and Sammy Davis.

I don’t think this is true. Adam’s known ad a visually exciting artist. Those cheapo videos of the AI performances stayed on the iTunes charts forever.

I think Adam’s sales of music and video will not be tied significantly to the box office of the movie. He’ll do well regardless.
Of course’“ if the movie does gangbusters.. Adam sales will go up even more.

I was referring to lucy saying that TII would guarantee 2 weeks worth of strong sales. I’m simply saying TII will only impact the sales if the movie does well (obviously, if nobody is seeing the movie, nobody will see the promos). I’m not saying Adam’s success is tied to this movie (or 2012, for that matter) because it’s not.

Ot but can you think of a title off-hand?

Elvis constructed ‘a personalised religion out of what he’d read of Hinduism, Judaism, numerology, theosophy, mind control, positive thinking and Christianity. There are several great books about Elvis and his spirituality.

The other AIers know if they don’t say something they’ll be bombarded by tweets demanding to know why they haven’t acknowledged it.

I’m guessing that those attack-tweeters are just the very kind of entitled fans Adam finds annoying.

They must be the same fans who hounded Adam non-stop until he acknowledged Kris’ single.

A lot has been written about “half-Jews” (I happen to be one myself), some of whom identify as “entirely Jewish” and some who don’t, but one thing I’ve always noticed is that the secular Jewish community, at least in the U.S., is quick to embrace anybody famous or successful if they have even a quarter of Jewish blood in them (regardless of which side of the family it came from). There was even a book out many years ago about “reclaiming Jesus,” LOL.

Meet the Half-Jews

I do think it’s fantastic that Adam is up-front about self-identifying as Jewish, but he hardly needs to be the spokesperson for gay Jews. There are lots of out and proud Jewish people in all walks of life.

Re Brian Mansfield, I totally empathize. He should be free to say he hates “Time For Miracles” if he does, and he really should be honest about how he feels, but if he doesn’t give the song a glowing review, he will be attacked by the more zealous Adam fans. Count on it.

All this publicity isn’t being orchestrated for average sales. His reps, and eventually RCA are spending big bucks for a big return. So yes, anything less than massive sales by todays standards will be considered unsuccessful. He’s already being treated as a star by the media and has gotten free publicity all over the place (Perez Hilton, etc) to go with the publicity “storm” (premiering his video at the Michael Jackson movie, the hubbub over Details magazine). In exchange for the benefits he and the fans have to accept the cost of increased expectations by the media and Adam’s own label and people.

halfnhalf

I’ve got my eyes on you.

I was referring to lucy saying that TII would guarantee 2 weeks worth of strong sales. I’m simply saying TII will only impact the sales if the movie does well (obviously, if nobody is seeing the movie, nobody will see the promos). I’m not saying Adam’s success is tied to this movie (or 2012, for that matter) because it’s not.

I get you. We’re saying the same thing.

Whoever is buying John Meyer songs. Just stop it okay. Stop it.

LOL!! I know! Just stop for a few hours, okay??

They must be the same fans who hounded Adam non-stop until he acknowledged Kris’ single.

The same type of fan, to be sure. I roll my eyes whenever I read handwringing over “why won’t this person acknowledge their AI friend on Twitter??” The reality is they probably do this old fashioned thing called texting or private phone calls. Why fans are so hung up on the friendships and needing to see public displays of said friendship is a mystery.

I was referring to lucy saying that TII would guarantee 2 weeks worth of strong sales. I’m simply saying TII will only impact the sales if the movie does well

I think it’s sold out in a lot of places. I know tickets for opening day at our theater have been sold out for awhile.

beehiway: Whoever is buying John Meyer songs. Just stop it okay. Stop it.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

But how about if people stop buying “Fireflies” – Owl City and “Party in the USA” – Miley.

Judism is a religion not an ethnicity.

Judaism is a religion (with at least three branches!); Jewishness is a religion AND an ethnicity. I’m an ethnic European Jew (via my mother) but I’m agnostic.

But, no Obama is not relevant to the discussion, LOL.

I think it’s sold out in a lot of places. I know tickets for opening day at our theater have been sold out for awhile.

That’s good to hear. I’m just trying not to buy the hype. If Adam’s preview is shown in every country, he’ll be getting a LOT of exposure. Even my family in Estonia will be seeing this movie lol.

I know this has probably been explained a bunch but how exactly does Itunes calculate the top songs? Are they reflective of that weeks sales, that days sales, or the sales that hour?

halfie
October 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm
halfnhalf

I’ve got my eyes on you.

Awwww…. she completes you. Show me the honey!

My sister (who, admittedly, wasn’t all that familiar with him) thought Adam was of Asian descent, lol.

That Laura Saltman interview was priceless! And a lot longer than I thought it would be. Wonder what he said that they not only had to bleep him, but blur out his mouth? I understand that it can be offensive to some folks, but I kinda get a kick out of his potty mouth. Especially since he also says things like “Oh my gosh!” and “Oh, my”–and otherwise he’s quite articulate.

My sister (who, admittedly, wasn’t all that familiar with him) thought Adam was of Asian descent, lol.

Another clue to the rumored cover song! “Secret Asian Man”!

Oh, wait…

My sister (who, admittedly, wasn’t all that familiar with him) thought Adam was of Asian descent, lol.

My sister, who never watches Idol, thought Adam was the new Boy George.

I was referring to lucy saying that TII would guarantee 2 weeks worth of strong sales. I’m simply saying TII will only impact the sales if the movie does well (obviously, if nobody is seeing the movie, nobody will see the promos). I’m not saying Adam’s success is tied to this movie (or 2012, for that matter) because it’s not.

Just check on Google News — TII will be a success:

MTV News Sep 29 2009 9:09 AM EDT
‘Michael Jackson’s This Is It’ Ticket Sales Break International Records
Documentary has sold out hundreds of screenings across U.S. a month before its release.

Variety Sep 28 2009
The Michael Jackson concert documentary ‘This Is It’ doesn’t hit theaters until Oct. 27, but it is already racking up record-breaking presales across the globe for its limited two-week theatrical engagement. The film, which documents MJ’s rehearsals for the ‘This Is It’ concert series, accounted for 80% of all online ticket sales in its first 24 hours of sales, sold out opening-day Los Angeles screenings within two hours, sold 30,000 tickets in London within 24 hours, earned more than $1 million in ticket sales in Japan in its first 24 hours, and also sold out opening-day screenings in France, Australia, Germany and New Zealand.

Bootstar: I do think it’s fantastic that Adam is up-front about self-identifying as Jewish, but he hardly needs to be the spokesperson for gay Jews. There are lots of out and proud Jewish people in all walks of life.

I think Adam has been very definite that he is not the spokesperson for anyone but himself — and that he is singer and an entertainer. I am just pleased that he is open and matter-of-fact about being Jewish.

The same type of fan, to be sure. I roll my eyes whenever I read handwringing over ‘why won’t this person acknowledge their AI friend on Twitter??’  The reality is they probably do this old fashioned thing called texting or private phone calls. Why fans are so hung up on the friendships and needing to see public displays of said friendship is a mystery.

I think the difference here is that Adam has used his Twitter account to help promote his friends. He wasn’t just congratulating them. He has mentioned both Kris and Allie’s singles twice, encouraging his fans to buy. I would hope both K & A at least sent Adam a nice text thanking him. At the same time, it would be a nice gesture and good PR for them if they returned the favor. Obviously, they don’t have to. But, it would be the smart thing to do. Color me surprised that Michael was the one to figure this out from the very start. Danny has also been supportive of Adam and others on Twitter. It’s a new tool, and they should embrace it.

Whoever is buying John Mayer songs. Just stop it okay. Stop it.

Yes, please! Like I needed another reason to dislike John Mayer.

My sister knew nothing of Adam Lambert and whole-heartedly accompanied me to the Glendale concert. Bless her heart. And she helped me to get an autograph (initials) Yay. She is 10 years younger and so much more informed than I (about concerts, the younger demographics regarding music, popular culture).

ETA: btw she thinks he will be huge. (and I cannot spell today, ugh)

All this publicity isn’t being orchestrated for average sales. His reps, and eventually RCA are spending big bucks for a big return. So yes, anything less than massive sales by todays standards will be considered unsuccessful.

Huh? Adam didn’t even win the show. He lost by a landslide so he probably needs all the help he can get.

I think Adam has been very definite that he is not the spokesperson for anyone but himself ‘” and that he is singer and an entertainer. I am just pleased that he is open and matter-of-fact about being Jewish.

Oh, me, too, and I was one of the first people here on MJs early in the season to conjecture that he was, in fact, Jewish. A lot was being written about the likelihood that he was gay at the time, and I just thought it was cool that we had another Jewish contestant (along with Jackie Tohn). I just wince a little when people declare Adam some kind of “gay Jewish” icon.

I’m trying to figure out what Adam’s ethnicity and religion have to do with his music, and all I can come up with is NOTHING!

A lot has been written about ‘half-Jews’ 

And don’t forget the most important reference material, Adam Sandler’s Hanukkah Song.

Paul Newmans half Jewish; Goldie Hawns half too,
Put them together–what a fine lookin Jew!

Natasha: Huh? Adam didn’t even win the show. He lost by a landslide so he probably needs all the help he can get.

LOL! And he’s winning the numbers game by a landslide now.

I’m trying to figure out what Adam’s ethnicity and religion has to do with his music, and all I can come up with is NOTHING!

Although I can’t argue with that, it is Adam himself who keeps bringing up his religion in interview after interview (often unpromted). I can only conclude that he wants us to be aware of it. Perhaps even talk about it. Right?

Although I can’t argue with that, it is Adam himself who keeps bringing up his religion in interview after interview (often unpromted). I can only conclude that he wants us to be aware of it. Perhaps even talk about it. Right?

No. I think he’s doing that as a defense against the “Jesus Loves You” crowed that keep telling him that he can be saved. He even says it in the Details article.

I doubt he meant for it to be a focus on the day his first musical output is released.

Bootstar, I was just interested in how Brian Mansfield felt, since he reviews Idol materials (I mean, that’s his BLOG). If he doesn’t want to, fine, it’s his business. If he gets attacked, that’s not my problem. And no one asked Adam to be the spokesperson for Jews, and he would be the last person to say he was. But I took as his comment as, Oh, well, here’s something you may not know about me, b/c you know everything else. He doesn’t hide his identity; this is just another part of who he is.

lol on John Mayer. But I, er, like him. OTOH, I cannot stand Miley.

Secret Asian Man. OMG, ha ha ha. That’s his next single, I believe.

ETA: Sunn, as always, you are the voice of reason.

Please let me know if I am incorrect. Right now, I can only think of one recent interview in which he brought it (being Jewish) up unprompted, the Details video. Up until then it was it seems that it was the interviewer bringing it up kind of like a joke to diffuse the gay question. Oh one other place he mentioned it was RS but that was an all Adam history interview. The jewish mother interview (sorry can’t think of the correct title) just happened to be thrown into the mix recently.

“Adam himself who keeps bringing up his religion in interview after interview (often unpromted)

He lost by a landslide so he probably needs all the help he can get.

I KNEW it was only a matter of time until someone showed up with the numbers – can you please share them with us? Thanks!!

ETA: on Canadian itunes TFM is 10 overall and 6 on the pop chart

oy vey!!!! I’m sorry I brought up the jewish issue today!

No. I think he’s doing that as a defense against the ‘Jesus Loves You’  crowed that keep telling him that he can be saved. He even says it in his Details article.

Oh right, yes he did say that.
But that won’t stop them

Judism is a religion not an ethnicity.

It’s both. I mean if being born to a Jewish mother was enough to get you killed for it for hundreds of years, yeah, it’s enough to be considered Jewish in my book, YMMV of course. Plus Adam actually did go to Hebrew school and seemingly, went to Temple for a few years. Currently he’s not Jewish as a religion, but he still identies with it, which is his choice and I think is valid. I’m not going to say he can’t call himself Jewish just because he’s not practicing, and may be more of a diet Jew now.

Anyhew, well pffft. Stalled at 11. Way to harsh my mellow iTunes and buying public. And I’m not even done with work so I don’t even have that to mitigate my non-mellowtude.

To clarify — i started this whole discussion but didn’t think it would lead in all the directions it has….its been interesting

mmb
October 20, 2009 at 5:54 pm
To clarify ‘” i started this whole discussion but didn’t think it would lead in all the directions it has’ ¦.its been interesting

Well, if he’d been a crypto-Jew, that might have been worthy of discussion, but since he already outed himself… not so much.

Hey, suebrody, I like Mayer too (although it’s apparently very un-cool to admit to it!), so good on you!

Mansfield really should have the intestinal fortitude to be honest about how he feels about “Time For Miracles,” but I can understand his fear of backlash. The guy’s only human afterall!

And I never meant to imply that Adam thought he was the spokesperson for all Jews any more than he’s the spokeperson for all gays.

We all lost in hwc’s poll. Adam didn’t break Top 10 yet. OTOH, ET and Access Hollywood haven’t aired yet, so there is still time. I really want to see the video: Emo!Adam.

Thanks, bootstar. I like Gavin DeGraw and Jason Mraz, too, so I think I have lost even more cool points today.

I love Adam b/c he’s Adam. He’s an amazing vocalist, so the rest is just gravy. But delicious gravy!

I really want to see the video: Emo!Adam.

We just caught the quick glimpse, but it didn’t look like Emo Adam to me, it looked like a new incarnation more akin to a bedraggled Adam (as opposed to bedazzled), befitting the flight from disaster theme.

undercooked: And don’t forget the most important reference material, Adam Sandler’s Hanukkah Song.

Paul Newmans half Jewish; Goldie Hawns half too,
Put them together’“what a fine lookin Jew!

Yay! Adam Sandler now has more material for another version!!! The last few have been played out, though nothing beats this from Version #2:

Lenny Kravitz is half Jewish
Cortney Love is too
Put them together – what a funky bad-ass Jew!!

Can’t wait to see what he’ll come up with for “our” Adam!

Can someone tell me who buys Owl City? 12 year old girls? It is such crap! (I just listen to Fireflies for the first time – yuckkkkkkkkkk!)

If there are Owl City fans on this blog — sorry to offend but really it is so lame!

I now sort of like “Party in the USA” since my mind is destroyed.

And I really want Adam to know them out of the #1 slot! I know it is just a dream but I think it is Time for a Miracle.

To clarify ‘” i started this whole discussion but didn’t think it would lead in all the directions it has’ ¦.its been interesting

Remember the famous quote (from David Ben Gurion, IIRC): “Two Jews, three opinions!”

And I don’t see why the topic of Adam’s ethnic/religous background should be any more verboten than who he’s dating or what drugs he’s done. It’s all part of his biography and relevant to some degree.

Since many had responded to my Adam-half-Jewish thing,
President Obama never (nor anybody else) idenitied himself as
CULTURALLY 100% in the white heritage, always 50%.
Nothing wrong with being half-Jewish, openly and proudly
acknowledging both parents heritage. Notice I’m not talking
about race or religion, one you have no choice, the other is all
up to you.

Huh? Adam didn’t even win the show.

Some of Adam’s fans are kidding themselves if they think the expectation level for him is lower than “the kid who won”. Adam is the one who is expected to become a huge international superstar and have the sales to match. If Adam fails to live up to the hype, he’s going to hear about it. He’s not going to get a pass because he’s the runner up.

My sister (who, admittedly, wasn’t all that familiar with him) thought Adam was of Asian descent, lol.

Another clue to the rumored cover song! ‘Secret Asian Man’ !

Reminded me of the Skankin’ Pickle song “Asian Man,” probably just me.

Anyhew, I thought the Details interview was cute. I love how unabashedly dorky Adam can be sometimes. The weird faces he makes, that he likes playing Rock Star and sharing his frustrations with it, and I like how enthusiastic he gets about things where he sounds just like a big kid, or playing around with the hair dryer. I want to squish him muchly in the Details interviews.

Natasha: Huh? Adam didn’t even win the show. He lost by a landslide so he probably needs all the help he can get.

NA NA NA NA NAAAA I CANT HEARRRR YOU!!!!!!!! D:

OTOH, I cannot stand Miley.

this is an understatement of how I feel about her.note to self-next time your in Disney world don’t say “I wish Miley Cyrus would die in a fire” .loudly.(yes, I did that (facepalms)

wow 2 pages of Jewish discussion. I mean interesting ,but….?

and Adam has to be #10 or at least 11

still waiting for the YouTube!!!:(

never mind adam’s already 11

Adam obviously accepts the Jewish identity. I always thought this was a religion and an ethnicity. The issue is complicated and political. This has nothing to do with his singing. I just want to enjoy.

want to squish him muchly

best sentence I’ve read all day…

Nothing wrong with being half-Jewish, openly and proudly
acknowledging both parents heritage

Because, as I understand it, Adam was never raised as a Christian. So even if one doesn’t take the ethnicity thing, than even as a religion, Adam wasn’t raised as more than one religion, so why acknowledge the way in which he wasn’t raised?

I think it was halfie who did the poll, sadz that no one got the prize. What was the prize? Photoshoot with Adam ?
And well if the music gets to #1 after the music vid is out another reason for a cozy glass of merlot .
So music vid is coming in six hours ?

Love looking at the charts though.. in meantime .. soon it will be a song with his picture beside his name
http://www.doipod.com/itunes-chart/top-100-itunes-songs-usa.html

They must be the same fans who hounded Adam non-stop until he acknowledged Kris’ single.

People are so strange. That’s the very definition right there of over-invested.

I too thought of Adam Sandler’s song about who is and who is not Jewish while reading these posts.

I do not however have a sister, so she has no opinion on Adam.

Having lived during the 80′s, I actually remember a time when Boy George was not a punchline. He may be a freak, but he did at one time have a really fabulous voice and some awesomly delicious pop tunes.

mmb: isn’t fascinating how these discussions on MJs evolve? Its one of the reasons I keep coming back! Articulate and intelligent comments – and I get edumacated too!

Adam said he was raised as a Jew. They celebrated Chanukah, and he went to Hebrew School till he was 11, I believe…anyway…the fact that has a Christian boyfriend is…just…that Drake is Christian. If they have kids, it gets more complicated.

Some of Adam’s fans are kidding themselves if they think the expectation level for him is lower than ‘the kid who won’ . Adam is the one who is expected to become a huge international superstar and have the sales to match. If Adam fails to live up to the hype, he’s going to hear about it. He’s not going to get a pass because he’s the runner up.

What fans? When did he or anyone else say he wanted a pass?! Who said the expectation for him was lower? Who said this was now a competition? I do not understand any of this…

[snerk] My last comment on Adam Jewishness -

I’m not Orthodox, but a lot of my family is on the Conservative/Orthodox edge. One of the complaints I’ve heard about Adam isn’t that he’s gay…its that his boyfriend is Catholic!

Can someone tell me who buys Owl City? 12 year old girls?

YUP.lol

;D

Having lived during the 80′s, I actually remember a time when Boy George was not a punchline. He may be a freak, but he did at one time have a really fabulous voice and some awesomly delicious pop tunes.

Well Boy George was on the A-Team once, and Adam begins with an “A.” Ya know they’re making a movie about the A-Team, somehow I don’t think Adam will be in it, which is a shame. But he has said he would like to do acting in the future. That will be cool.

Just throwing some new things out there.

Here is the link ‘” in order to refresh you must manually change at least one digit in the number that follows ‘sf’ :

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=72012371/limit=20/rss.xml

Sorry for being so dense but do you mean to change the last digit in the number after sf= to the next sequential no.? I am confused on many points today so I don’t want to assume anything.

see the sf=72012371 change that number to 72012372….that updated it for me

I still don’t know what the difference is between the pop and iTunes charts, and you would think I would by now…can someone explain?

I was confusing Boy George with George Michael, but both were pretty damn popular in the 80s (I loved Wham!). Wasn’t George Michael on the finale of S7 Idol and he was pretty boring?

What fans? When did he or anyone else say he wanted a pass?! Who said the expectation for him was lower? Who said this was now a competition? I do not understand any of this

It’s not a competition between Adam and anybody else from AI. His publicity machine and buzz have put him in a category by himself. He’s a bonafide celebrity with a publicity blitz that is being executed for the purpose of launching an international superstar, not a first time artist who just does “ok.” “Ok” isn’t what RCA, his producers, his management, and PR team want for their heavy investment.

How about this for a new thing – where the hell’s Adam’s CD cover art?? I figured it would be a week behind Kris’, like the CD, followed by Allison’s in another week. However, here we are with everyone’s but Adam’s. It’s past time the creative strategy behind the Michelin Man/satiny dogpile/astrosuit was revealed for our criticism perusal.

One of the complaints I’ve heard about Adam isn’t that he’s gay’ ¦its that his boyfriend is Catholic!

Bwah!!! That’s awesome.

Oh, and my sister loved Boy George back in the day, so I don’t think it was meant to be an insult.

SueBro, the pop list only contains songs identified as pop, rather than country, hip-hop, rock. The iTunes list contains all genres.

anthrogeek, how much adamstorm can we handle in one day? The leakage is for our benefit?

Okay, not really, but it kind of helps to think that way, plus the new thread could get insanely long…

Thanks, zsus. I think I’ve got it now, finally.

Clip of Time For Miracles MV from ET:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E

anthrogeek: …where the hell’s Adam’s CD cover art?? I figured it would be a week behind Kris’, like the CD, followed by Allison’s in another week. However, here we are with everyone’s but Adam’s. It’s past time the creative strategy behind the Michelin Man/satiny dogpile/astrosuit was revealed for our criticism perusal.

Has Kris’ art been out for a full week yet?

BTW – Alli’s cover is smashingly good!

Truthiness
October 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm

Nothing wrong with being half-Jewish, openly and proudly
acknowledging both parents heritage

Because, as I understand it, Adam was never raised as a Christian. So even if one doesn’t take the ethnicity thing, than even as a religion, Adam wasn’t raised as more than one religion, so why acknowledge the way in which he wasn’t raised?

Yes recently Adam was asked if his father was Jewish and he said no he was a Christian but the family did not celebrate Christmas and celebrated Hanukkah instead. So that is another reason why he identifies as Jewish and not half and half.

Gigi3
October 20, 2009 at 6:26 pm

Clip of MV from ET:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E

OMG….Wow…First Adam’s looks amazing. My favorite look ever….And this video is going to sell this song.

Thanks Gigi3

Clip of Time For Miracles MV from ET:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E

Just when you thought we had seen it all….dirty Adam.

Some of Adam’s fans are kidding themselves if they think the expectation level for him is lower than ‘the kid who won’ . Adam is the one who is expected to become a huge international superstar and have the sales to match. If Adam fails to live up to the hype, he’s going to hear about it. He’s not going to get a pass because he’s the runner up.

He had tremendous hype when he was on the show and that didn’t result in votes. Why would it result in sales? He already didn’t live up to the hype when he didn’t win so why would it be any different when it comes to sales?

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

Gigi3
October 20, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Clip of Time For Miracles MV from ET:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E

I LOVE Dirty Adam!!!!!

My last response to Adam-half-Jewish thing–
Heritage does not equal religion, for example– Irish Catholic,
African Catholic, Korean Catholic, Cajun Catholic, etc., etc. Adam said it is a heritage
thing in one of his interviews

Gigi3
October 20, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Clip of MV from ET:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E

Thanks for the link, I can’t wait to see the MV. I’m anticipating hair comments LOL

Are they reflective of that weeks sales, that days sales, or the sales that hour?

Yes. All three.

Has Kris’ art been out for a full week yet?

Sigh. I dunno, I’m too lazy to go look; it just feels like every day’s measured in dog years lately while we sit here and wait for a bone and some kibble.

Clip of Time For Miracles MV from ET:

Natasha: Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

Am I missing something? I thought the AI numbers were never released. The “reality” you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

Suebrody- they just categorize all songs on Itunes by genre. There are more songs on the pop chart then any of the other sub genres, so it’s alot harder to place high on the pop chart than it is for say, rock. If you go to itunes, there is a drop down menu where you can see the different genres and get a better idea how it works.

8 of the songs on the top 10 overall chart are pop songs
1 of the songs on the top 10 overall chart are rock songs ( John Mayer)
1 of the songs on the top 10 overall chart are electronic songs( Owl City)

OH MY GOD ANTHROGEEK I AM STAYING UP UNTIL MIDNIGHT!!!!!!WOWOWOWOWW!!!!!!!!!!

Insta-reaction to vid:

1) Dirty adam will be very popular here
2) As always, he gives great interviews. As hwc said, “a star”.
3) Mega-cheese factor in video perfectly complements the song and movie.
4) Time to repost the “cool guys don’t look at explosions” song

Natasha: Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

More votes do not equate to more fans or more sales. Those who text-voted 300 times will not (and in fact, did not) buy 300 copies of anything.

My first reaction to the vid…

If anyone didn’t know Adam their first thought would be “vehy, vehy, bad wig”. And since Adam sometimes prides himself on being a “dirty” Adam, lets qualify his look by saying soiled and bedraggled.

And…I can already tell that as much as I love Adam and his voice…I’m going to think the video is pretty damn “campy”. ooh, me bad.

So, do you guys think that all the destruction of the world in 2012 really starts from one Adam Lambert high note? Did he shatter the Earth?

BootStar: To clarify ‘” i started this whole discussion but didn’t think it would lead in all the directions it has’ ¦.its been interesting

Remember the famous quote (from David Ben Gurion, IIRC): ‘Two Jews, three opinions!’ 

And I don’t see why the topic of Adam’s ethnic/religous background should be any more verboten than who he’s dating or what drugs he’s done. It’s all part of his biography and relevant to some degree.

I absolutely agree. I think it is an important part of who Adam is culturally, how he relates to people and his value system.

I also believe that being Jewish is also is important to who Adam is as a musician — and vocalists are musicians. Just like growing up exposed to Gospel music had a dramatic effect on singers from Aretha Franklin to Danny Gokey — growing up in the Jewish faith exposes people to a vast diverse array of music that is the result of the Jewish diaspora, and give children an appreciation of the value of vocal performance.

OH MY GOD ANTHROGEEK I AM STAYING UP UNTIL MIDNIGHT!!!!!!WOWOWOWOWW!!!!!!!!!!

Do I sense another party on Planet Fierce??

I think Adam becoming an adult in LA has more effect on his music than his Jewish heritage. Having found a welcoming atmosphere in the underground club scene in LA ,his daring ways of interpreting songs were buoyed up.

Even those raised in a close fanatic environment where ethnic creed and religious background would have a strong influence – a person can still be either for the heritage or very much against it. How a person turns out is not always a given.

4) Time to repost the ‘cool guys don’t look at explosions’  song

Yes, please.

I thought the AI numbers were never released. The ‘reality’  you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

I saw it on the Internet.

Natasha: Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

Am I missing something? I thought the AI numbers were never released. The ‘reality’  you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

I must have sarvered something too- I think Billy Bush, you know the Carl Berstein of Ai news, mentioned something once, and nothing ever came of it. So hey- if you could show me those numbers that don’t lie, I would appreciate it immensely!!

He had tremendous hype when he was on the show and that didn’t result in votes.

Huh? He didn’t get votes? How did he make it all the way to the finale, then?

After seeing the ET teaser, I CANNOT wait for the video. Love the hair.

deleted by me, b/c Gigi3 posted the link already

And’ ¦I can already tell that as much as I love Adam and his voice’ ¦I’m going to think the video is pretty damn ‘campy’ . ooh, me bad.

It looks appropriately cheesetastic to the film, but that won’t help Adam any. sigh.

And dude, what was with the hobo look? The dirt, the middle part? random. He looked good at the end, but the background CGI stuff looked dreadful.

Oy to the vey.

anthrogeek- i’m there!

And I’ll bring the Cool Guys Don’t Look At Explosions video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo

It is my biggest wish that when Adam’s video is released, someone will set it to this video!

I thought the AI numbers were never released. The ‘reality’  you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

hwc: I saw it on the Internet.

Yeah, someone tweeted it.

Adam looks great in that video; the movie looks like shit.

Tess
October 20, 2009 at 6:37 pm

And since Adam sometimes prides himself on being a ‘dirty’  Adam, lets qualify his look by saying soiled and bedraggled.

I meant dirty– all kinds of dirty…. ya know??

Emo Adam
Elvis Adam’
Dirty Adam

I like dirty Adam. A LOT.

BestAI
October 20, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I thought the AI numbers were never released. The ‘reality’  you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

hwc: I saw it on the Internet.

Yeah, someone tweeted it.

then texted it 300 times….

I’m buying his look on the video. Love it. A bit Jonas brother tho.

Huh? He didn’t get votes? How did he make it all the way to the finale, then?

It didn’t result in enough votes to win.

Am I missing something? I thought the AI numbers were never released. The ‘reality’  you talk about has never been confirmed by anyone credible, as far as I know.

The show’s producers said Kris won by a wide margin and they were surprised by it. Are you implying Kris didn’t really win? That such BS. They WANTED Adam to win. They did everything in their power to hand him the win and he couldn’t deliver.

HWC, link please

Natasha
The show’s producers said Kris won by a wide margin and they were surprised by it. Are you implying Kris didn’t really win? That such BS. They WANTED Adam to win. They did everything in their power to hand him the win and he couldn’t deliver.

how is flash-back trip?

The show’s producers said Kris won by a wide margin and they were surprised by it.

Please provide a link to this interview. I am so surprised I missed it. Verification would go a long way toward giving this statement some credibility.

Stupid question. I’ve never bought from Amazon before, downloaded the software. I bought the mp3, but don’t know how to pay for it! and to top it off, i clicked the back button and it downloaded twice. But there isn’t anything in my shopping cart. So, how do I pay?

Why do we care about who won? That’s over. Let us remember than Ruben and Taylor won too (no disrespect).

OMG LOL

Sigh. I dunno, I’m too lazy to go look; it just feels like every day’s measured in dog years lately while we sit here and wait for a bone and some kibble.

Clip of Time For Miracles MV from ET:

Bedraggled Adam = Hot Adam!

OMG
FLAIL
FLAIL
FLAIL

Emo!Adam, on my TV set, to watch over and over and over (yep, DVR, IF it cooperated, please have cooperated).

BTW, I heard Adam only got one vote. Mine. You’re welcome, Adam. I was happy to help.

I don’t wanna stay up till midnight and I fear I must…

*yawning in advance*

BTW, he looks bedraggled BECAUSE THE WORLD IS ENDING. Just sayin’

Thanks for the data, Studio57. I am even more excited now to see that he got so high on the pop charts (catch up, iTunes chart, CATCH UP IMMEDIATELY, LIKE RIGHT NOW).

ETA: sr4mjc, I would be happy to help but I can’t pull up the iTunes charts, so I am useless.

He had tremendous hype when he was on the show and that didn’t result in votes. Why would it result in sales? He already didn’t live up to the hype when he didn’t win so why would it be any different when it comes to sales?

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

I don’t think this is unreasonable at all and agree with it. Adam was one of the front runners, he did go the finals, but despite all the odds in his favour and seemingly the favour of the judges, he lost the contest. No one knows for sure, but let’s say he lost by a huge margin in the voting as has been reported by the only numbers we have. Okay, than Adam shouldn’t be expected to do beyond the numbers of a number two, who lost by a landslide.

This isn’t some sort of anti-Adam argument, this is a setting realistic expectations and how Adam might need more of a publicity boost as the non-winner. Especially one who lost by a lot.

And yeah, Adam did lose, he was one of the front-runners and still did. Now I also think that Adam has a lot of strikes against him as well that should be taken into account, but that’s the old story and not relevant.

The only way it’s relevant is setting expectations. I don’t expect Adam to have to have SO many more sales than Kris did, considering that Kris won. And no, not even with more publicity. And no, I don’t think that Adam has had MORE PUBLICITY THAN ANYONE EVER!!1! so he should be expected to outdo both David Cook or David A. from last year, and heck, all other AI people ever before him.

I know people like to talk about Adam Storm here, and there is a fair amount of publicity outside the bubble, but not huge amounts right now. Outside the bubble it’s still in it’s nascent stages. I just went to that soap board to check in with one of my AI peeps and the General Hospital thing happened and yeah, a fair amount of people there had never heard of Adam, and a fair amount remembered not liking him. So that is where my expectations are at right now.

If others want to say that Adam has some high Q rating or whatever, so is expected to slam dunk in sales? Okay, I disagree with them.

anthrogeek

Do I sense another party on Planet Fierce??

I can hear the soundtrack right now!!

It’s late at night and I can’t sleep

Thanks for the link, I can’t wait to see the MV. I’m anticipating hair comments LOL

So am I.

ET sneak peak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E&feature=player_embedded

And this is cool too
http://www.vh1.com/artists/charts/top_artists.jhtml

Some of Adam’s fans are kidding themselves if they think the expectation level for him is lower than ‘the kid who won’ . Adam is the one who is expected to become a huge international superstar and have the sales to match. If Adam fails to live up to the hype, he’s going to hear about it. He’s not going to get a pass because he’s the runner up.

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

ROFL at this comment!!

Kris won the text messaging and phone redial contest. Phones and redialing software don’t buy albums though. So that’s how I set my expectations and Kris is doing about as well as I expected.

Regarding half-Jew or whatever that was discussed earlier. Well, Adam is a Jew, cuz of his mother. That’s just a fact, it is his religion, that’s all. He wasn’t much of a “Jew” (according to his statements), he “exercised” a necessary minimum. Actually, he is not different from any other “assimilated” Jeish people especially in Urban area. He most certainly wasn’t raised as a Christian (again’ his link to any religion is weak – according to him). So in that sense ‘“ there’s no father heritage to talk about, in any case the religion obviously wasn’t an issue in Lambert’s house. He did talk about his father music heritage etc, which is probably much more important for him. This theological dispute, at least in regards to Adam, seems to be pointless, as he definitely doesn’t care or relay to people on that basis. It is just a fact’ ¦ Like being a blond or a brunette. If I’m a blond after my mother, should my brunette father be mentioned every time I talk about my looks? One more reason to like him ‘“ being a “Jew” myself it plays no role at all for relaying and connecting to people. As it should be, and I hope some day would. Hope it’ll be a Time for Miracles’ ¦
And if I’m on that issue, he looks smoking on that video from ET.

And this is cool too
http://www.vh1.com/artists/charts/top_artists.jhtml

Squirrely, Adam is on top of Beyonce and Lady GaGa. LOLOL

And this is cool too
http://www.vh1.com/artists/charts/top_artists.jhtml

Wow, and even Brooke Hogan tops Kris!! Wait…. where IS Kris…?

Getting back to the really important discussion– Dirty Adam.

Adam also looks hot, macho and mean in that video snippet.

*thud*

WOW, the sneak peak of the MV on ET was AMAZING….how much hotter can Adam get?!?!

Anthrogeek: Sigh. I dunno, I’m too lazy to go look; it just feels like every day’s measured in dog years lately while we sit here and wait for a bone and some kibble.

lol I’m with you there. I’m just happy we’ve started getting some Adam and Allison kibble too.

Love Adam’s look and attitude in the video (I much prefer angry Adam to soul tortured Adam a la those excruciating facial expression in “If I Can’t Have You”). But cgi effects behind him look pretty lame. I’ll hold off judgment until I can see it in full. If he reprises those awful facial expressions it’ll be an automatic fail for me.

Adam’s reaction to Details photos:
http://adamlambert.faxo.com/video/adam-lambert-reacts-to-details

MAY I PLEASE BUY THE VIDEO NOW IF I ASK REALLY, REALLY NICELY???

Kris won the text messaging and phone redial contest. Phones and redialing software don’t buy albums though. So that’s how I set my expectations and Kris is doing about as well as I expected

Here’s my thought, for what it’s worth. Super high expectations of Adam means that if he doesn’t deliver anything other than a HUGE slam dunk, he will be seen to be a failure. So that is what the second poster is talking about, rightly I would say, in getting some perspective about Adam…for his own good. Not to say he lost nyah nyah nyah, but that the kinds of expectations his in the bubble fans have are a.) not based on facts of how Adam lost the show b.) do him no favours.

Not to mention that rehashing season and yadda yadda types of voting whatever is ancient history and not relevant to the current discussion, except as this poster did, in setting realistic expectations.

And yeah, I agree, Adam lost the show even after being a front runner. He lost presumably by a large margin. He has a lot of ground to make up for it. And that is where I put his sales expectations.

YMMV, of course.

I love the dirty Adam! The MV looks great and the clips of him singing the song make the song even better. Bet we see this video on MTV/VH1.

Does anyone know why/how Adam ended up as VH1′s top artist?

VH1 Chart – Top Artist
1 Adam Lambert
2 Beyonc
3 Lady Gaga
4 Lil Wayne
5 Michael Jackson

Regarding winning Idol:

The vote was part of a reality show — and it is over — Kris won.

Kris and Adam are both now new recording artist trying to make it in the real world — they can both be successful but it is a really tough business — tougher now than ever. The iTunes sales are reality. The Amazon sales are reality.

I can’t wait for the vid. The teaser just wasn’t enough, but watching on my little pc screen may not cut it either. Have to figure out how to put in on a dvd to play on the tv. Do you think the vid will be included in the dvd of the movie? If so I may have to actually get the movie dvd.

elw
October 20, 2009 at 7:02 pm
WOW, the sneak peak of the MV on ET was AMAZING’ ¦.how much hotter can Adam get?!?!

Well, he’s way too cool to look at explosions, anyway! I suspect the only way he’d get any hotter is if he donned a Flaming Headdress! (I’m holding out for the Flaming Codpiece, but that’s just me…).

The great unanswerable question for me is if Adam had won, would he still be getting the publicity/jobs/buzz that he’s getting now? Or would it be at the level that Kris is getting as winner.

If Kris had come in second, would he be getting the publicity/jobs/buzz that Adam is getting now?

Removed by me, because who cares – the contest is over

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

On the other hand, why isn’t Kris doing better?

But cgi effects behind him look pretty lame. I’ll hold off judgment until I can see it in full. If he reprises those awful facial expressions it’ll be an automatic fail for me.

The CGI is beyond lame. Ugh. And the staging thus far looks obvious and cheesy. Which is appropriate to this movie, but not of coolness.

OMG Adam looks amazing in the video. He can scream at me forever! I love dirty raunchy Adam.

n.

Kris and Adam are both now new recording artist trying to make it in the real world ‘” they can both be successful but it is a really tough business ‘” tougher now than ever. The iTunes sales are reality. The Amazon sales are reality.

ITA. Hard to argue with cold, hard, viewable numbers.

Everything else remains speculation and should RIP.

anthrogeek:Well, he’s way too cool to look at explosions, anyway! I suspect the only way he’d get any hotter is if he donned a Flaming Headdress! (I’m holding out for the Flaming Codpiece, but that’s just me’ ¦).

Darling, you’re making my night. Love this!! The thing is, he just might do it. Adam is so very hair conscious/concerned/protective that I can’t imagine him being any more protective of his manly bits. If he’s willing to risk his hair going up in flames, he just might be willing to risk the other. lol

Interesting debate about religion? It doesn’t seem like an important factor to me. Everyone has their own beliefs whether we share the same ones or not.

My sister and brother in-law have different religions but they really have made it work. It doesn’t have to be a big problem. They’ve been married for 8 years.

However, if your boyfriend/girlfriend is Jewish and you want to marry that person, you have to convert.

I think it’s interesting how there isnt even a 30 second teaser for the music video. They are just going to premiere it. (not complaining =) )

I AM STILL FLAILING (trying to keep the convo on target, b/c mj is in da house, I suspect, plus I really am still flailing–I cannot wait to go home and watch it on my TV if I didn’t screw it up and there were no power outages, etal).

EMO!HAIR ADAM, I lurrrve you

Luv, here it is!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAKLmal-xM&feature=player_embedded

part two of Laura S. interview with Adam (Details Pics, beware)

Q3
October 20, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I love the dirty Adam! The MV looks great and the clips of him singing the song make the song even better. Bet we see this video on MTV/VH1.

Aye, but there’s the rub – do MTV and VH1 actually play music videos anymore?? That’s why I’m hoping we can buy it.

After watching that clip I had to listen to the song again and again and again…..

luv, the pics are rated R, and thus cannot look at them unless accompanied by an adult.

Anyone want to accompany luv? I need to go listen to TfM. I miss it. It’s been an hour.

I’m not sure I understand all this discussion about how Jewish Adam is. It sounds like he isn’t practicing. From the little bit I have heard him say about his philosophical views it may be more the mystical aspects like Kabbalah (the new age version). Anyhew don’t know for sure.

But he sure looks very intense, masculine, and dirty in the
mv snippet.

This isn’t some sort of anti-Adam argument, this is a setting realistic expectations and how Adam might need more of a publicity boost as the non-winner. Especially one who lost by a lot.

Thanks, because believe it or not I’m not trying to make an anti-Adam argument. But the fact is that he lost by a significant margin to Kris Allen whose single currently needs CPR and isn’t even in the itunes top 100 the last time I checked. And I don’t buy any of the excuses being made for why it’s doing poorly. When I look at that situation I can’t realistically say that Adam is going to burn up the charts no matter how much hype is involved.

Adam looks way hot in that video clip. So is it 12:00PM EST for the full video?

Eeek!! When will I ever catch up to this thread. Damn RL!!! I feel like I’ve missed a great party, but got a chance to watch some through the windows.

The sound on my Saltzman link sucked, but I managed to watch it through the windows of my computer. Going back one page, but that’s it.

Studio57
“Emo Adam
Elvis Adam’
Dirty Adam

I like dirty Adam. A Lot.”

I’ll add
James Dean Adam

I loved the Laura/Adam Acess Hollywood interview about the Details photo shoot. He has ‘mischievous’ written all over his face!

I don’t know why Kris’s single isn’t doing better. I do not think it has been publicized well, but it has to be more than that, doesn’t it? It didn’t get any buzz, and TfM has (and still is) I do not believe it has anything to do with the winner/runner-up and everything to do with buzz.

Also: Adam James Dean Lambert. (along with James Dean!Adam, of course)

Once again, Adam looks SMOKING. Get it?

Susan M, sometimes R/L has to be sacrificed for Adam…I’ve been doing that lately, hence my being at work at 7:30PM.

SusanM: Going back one page, but that’s it.

Aww, you gotta go back two – halfie meets his better other half for the first time! Priceless!

And this is cool too
http://www.vh1.com/artists/charts/top_artists.jhtml

THIS…….. is totally amazing!!!!

ET sneak peak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E&feature=player_embedded

You got the wrong video. This is the last episode of FlashForward.

I missed when halfie and hwc met, and I’ve been on here ALL DAY! Was that during my ONE MEETING? Harumph.

Looks like Adam’s music vid was directed by Wayne Isham. You can see his name on the clipboard.

I really, really want to see Adam’s name visible in that Top Songs box on the main iTunes page.

C’mon, people! He just needs a little push to number 10!!

Q3: I love the dirty Adam! The MV looks great and the clips of him singing the song make the song even better. Bet we see this video on MTV/VH1.

anthrogeek: Aye, but there’s the rub ‘“ do MTV and VH1 actually play music videos anymore?? That’s why I’m hoping we can buy it.

Yes, both the 3 core MTV’s and 2 core VH1′s play music videos. MTV will be doing more than one show on 2012 as part of there movie coverage.

But I guess it depends which stations you get. I get 11 of the 12 US MTV music channels plus LOGO (also MTV but not much music). I expect to see this video on at least 4 of the channels plus LOGO. I also think we will see Adam on Comedy Central which is also MTV-owned.

But the fact is that he lost by a significant margin to Kris Allen

lol. Oh, really? Please provide evidence of this because last I looked at DialIdol, they were neck and neck.

ET sneak peak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E&feature=player_embedded

You got the wrong video. This is the last episode of FlashForward.

LOL – wouldn’t that be something

BTW, I heard Adam only got one vote. Mine. You’re welcome, Adam. I was happy to help.

I think I may have voted for him a couple of times, too, LOL. Whatever. What’s more important to him right now is that I’m spending my money to buy his music, which I am and will continue to do.

And the music video? I’ve seen Adam wear a thousand different looks and project a thousand different emotions, and he continues to surprise me.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!!!!!!
He looks dirty-sexy-desperate-passionate and it makes my heart flail! Wow! *thud*

I really, really want to see Adam’s name visible in that Top Songs box on the main iTunes page.

Don’t want to make you jealous, but what the hell.
It is in the Top Box for me in Canada – at 7
Pop Chart at 6

Whoever posted the link to the video Thank You Thank You that is the best Adam I have seen yet
This morning in one of these threads someone posted a link to request Adam on VH1 as a write in – I tried going back a few pages but there are so many Adam threads I do not know which one it was on. So if anyone has that link to get Adam on VH1 please re post it.
Adam sure has a way of bringing people out of lurking
9pm can not come fast enough for me hope we don’t all crash the site
I so want to see that video on the music stations I really loved how Adam looked on ET and in that video all I can say is WOW

Adam’s banner is now at the top of the iTunes chart permanently, it seems. AND YET HE CANNOT GET TO #10. Who is stopping this? Bitter.

BTW, I am going to my niece’s Bat Mitsvah (sort of ironic, in light of our posts today, but true). I wonder how much I will miss? I will be gone Friday-Sunday afternoon (there better be internet access in the hotel, and I will have my iPhone w/ me). Please do not let something really exciting happen during this time (as in, say, the new single from FYE being released–I hope his cover pic will by the end of the week). Gah in advance.

Let’s not re-hash the Idol season. This is about Adam doing what we know he can because he is a once in a generation performer and talent. Hubby is amused and teenage sons not so much. Never paid this much attention to an entertainer before!!!

So I just read the details interview, am I the only one who thought Adam came across really bad? This quote “And I got to do a lot of shopping. It affects your perspective like crazy. Somewhere in the South Pacific I saw a really poor Third World island and I was like, ohhhh. I had never seen that. I was kind of, like, upper’“middle’“class and white’“bread” makes him seem really flippant to me. So what, he was shopping in some country was faced with the reality of poverty and just thought,”wow I’ve never seen something like that”. If Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears said something like that they would be ripped apart for being insensitive or an airhead.

This isn’t some sort of anti-Adam argument, this is a setting realistic expectations and how Adam might need more of a publicity boost as the non-winner. Especially one who lost by a lot.

Thanks, because believe it or not I’m not trying to make an anti-Adam argument. But the fact is that he lost by a significant margin to Kris Allen whose single currently needs CPR and isn’t even in the itunes top 100 the last time I checked. And I don’t buy any of the excuses being made for why it’s doing poorly. When I look at that situation I can’t realistically say that Adam is going to burn up the charts no matter how much hype is involved.

Plus the economy sucks more than it did last year, and the music industry even more than that, so yeah, making realistic adjustments for what is considered selling well in total units, is also realistic. I mean look at the days when being a number one best seller meant sellling say a million copies of something, versus where you can get to number one by selling like 150,000. They’re both number one hits from their respective times, but times change, so the bottomline numbers necessarily change.

So what Adam might be expected to do with his single in terms of sheer numbers, shouldn’t be compared to previous years winners/runners-up. Oh and Carrie Underwood’s singles? The singles of an established multi-platinum, multi-record artist vs. a new artist who didn’t even win in his season? Yeah, not seeing that comparison as being apples to apples.

spring2009
October 20, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I really, really want to see Adam’s name visible in that Top Songs box on the main iTunes page.

Don’t want to make you jealous, but what the hell.
It is in the Top Box for me in Canada ‘“ at 7
Pop Chart at 6

haha (gritting teeth) I’m not jellus… haha

How come Canada knows what a gem Adam is and the US still can’t get a clue?

TFM #7 on Canada iTunes #6 Pop

‘And I got to do a lot of shopping. It affects your perspective like crazy. Somewhere in the South Pacific I saw a really poor Third World island and I was like, ohhhh. I had never seen that. I was kind of, like, upper’“middle’“class and white’“bread’  makes him seem really flippant to me. So what, he was shopping in some country was faced with the reality of poverty and just thought,’ wow I’ve never seen something like that’ .

He was saying how it changed him and that he said as someone growing up fairly affluent in an affluent country, no, he hadn’t seen real poverty they way he was when confronted with it in another country. Now could he have in the US? unfortunately ,yes. but his pretty sheltered life didn’t include that until he went overseas.

I didn’t see it as flippant, as much as acknowleding how lucky he was as an upper-middle class American and how seeing how too much of the world lives, is a life changer. Which is what he said, that it changes you.

Didn’t see it as airhead or flippant. And he’s talked before about how much he grew from dealing with other people and their cultures and that if given the chance, everyone should because it is so important. Doesn’t sound flip or airheaded to me.

How come Canada knows what a gem Adam is and the US still can’t get a clue?

Have to tell you, I thought it would be a huge fail here, I wasn’t expecting this – his album is doing shit on Amazon.ca, but I honestly don’t know a soul who buys there so maybe they are all waiting for itunes.

CAUTION — GRASSY KNOLL THEORY __ BUT IT DOESN’T INVOLVE VOTING!

Has anyone else noticed the the mysterious man at the end of FlashForward, the guy in the beginning of General Hospital Mad World and Adam in the MV — have a very similar look? And all three are similar to the Adam who appeared in Mad World on the Final?

Here’s a link to the General Hospital clip:

General Hospital Songs – Mad World

I don’t know General Hospital — can someone tell me if Dante Falconeri usually dresses like that.

Finally — FlashForward and General Hospital are both on ABC and have nothing to do with Sony.

But Sony Pictures Television produces two other soaps: The Young & The Restless (CBS) and Days Of Our Lives (NBC).

I have a feeling that there is “synergy” involved but I can’t find the link.

I only watched Flashforward once, but in the episode I saw the person they referred to was approx 5’8″ so that excludes Adam

The show’s producers said Kris won by a wide margin and they were surprised by it. Are you implying Kris didn’t really win? That such BS. They WANTED Adam to win. They did everything in their power to hand him the win and he couldn’t deliver.

I just got back from RL and entered a parallel universe. Kill.me.now.

Q3: I have a feeling that there is ‘synergy’  involved but I can’t find the link.

Found the link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJyfh2bZvQ

Truthiness, no where in the article does it say how it changed him and nothing about wanting to do anything about the poverty he saw. All that was in the article about it I quoted, so all he talked about was seeing poverty, and it surprising him because he came from a privileged background. It IS flippant because he is just acknowledging the poverty and how lucky he is that he isn’t poor, but he doesn’t say anything about wanting to change it.

I love coming here and reading all of your comments and this is one time I hope MJ comes thru and deletes all of the fanwaring – it is so NOT FUN to read

I don’t quite understand why people are still rehashing what happened on American Idol. It’s over and people outside of American Idol either don’t know who won or really don’t care who won. It doesn’t make a bit of difference to non-idol fans who won or who came in second. All these people care about is whether the music is good. So far for Adam, it’s looking pretty good. It’s going to be interesting to see the amount of international downloads. As for what’s going on with Kris, Allison or Danny, don’t know and really don’t care. Adam is the one who captured my interest and I like his style. I am not expecting Adam to be come some kind of superstar over night. I simply want him to do what he always did, which is to do the best that he can. I remember Adam saying, he wanted to build a career so he can buy a house and take care of his family. That’s what any of us would want and I think he can achieve that by simply being himself. I am happy for him, because his dreams are coming true.

spring2009

How come Canada knows what a gem Adam is and the US still can’t get a clue?

Have to tell you, I thought it would be a huge fail here, I wasn’t expecting this ‘“ his album is doing shit on Amazon.ca, but I honestly don’t know a soul who buys there so maybe they are all waiting for itunes.

I don’t think Amazon Canada is a very good reflection of what is going on in Canada. for music or books. I’ll wait until I see Adam’s album on iTunes.

But speaking of Canada TfM is #7 on iTunes Canada!
Still #2 in iTunes Finland.

I want to see what country goes #1 for Adam first and my bet is on Canada.

Cindij
October 20, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I only watched Flashforward once, but in the episode I saw the person they referred to was approx 5′ ²8′ ³ so that excludes Adam

That was just to throw us off the trail. We know Adam is Subject Zero.

It was on the internet.

gangreen29: It IS flippant because he is just acknowledging the poverty and how lucky he is that he isn’t poor, but he doesn’t say anything about wanting to change it.

We have absolutely no way of knowing what was said to the reporter and not included in the article, as is typical of any interview every written in more than a transcripted Q&A format. Period.

Has anyone else noticed the the mysterious man at the end of FlashForward, the guy in the beginning of General Hospital Mad World and Adam in the MV ‘” have a very similar look? And all three are similar to the Adam who appeared in Mad World on the Final?

Here’s a link to the General Hospital clip:

General Hospital Songs ‘“ Mad World

The guy in the beginning isn’t Dante, it’s the new character played by James Franco. Or so I gather. The quality of the video sucked, so I couldn’t tell who was supposed to be who and I don’t know who plays Dante. All I could do was a.) pay attention to pretty Adam voice b.) hate taggers. The new James Franco character is supposed to be, I guess, a graffiti artist, which cool. I like real graffiti artists, but taggers just make me stabby. Useless, ugly and annoying crap, is what tagging is.

Adam looks really good in that movie video clip. LOL I can’t wait to see the whole video tomorrow night. I think it’ll help boost his sales for the song.

We have absolutely no way of knowing what was said to the reporter and not included in the article, as is typical of any interview every written in more than a transcripted Q&A format. Period.

What should Adam have said? Made some political statement about it? Now that would have been airheaded of him if he couldn’t make a cogent argument about solutions other than ‘poverty sucks and makes me sads.’

As it is Adam has done charity work, that’s enough for me.

I want to see what country goes #1 for Adam first and my bet is on Canada.

I doubt it, but if it does it will be the squee heard around the world.

Dallas
Oops lost interest in the show and have been reading the comments that are posted – so maybe I should go back to watching

Adam is listed as #1 in the list of the “Most Popular Artists” on Vh1.com:

http://www.vh1.com/

Cool!!!

We have absolutely no way of knowing what was said to the reporter and not included in the article, as is typical of any interview every written in more than a transcripted Q&A format. Period.

This article just slobbered over him, if he said anything more about this subject they would have added it in my opinion. As it stands now you are right, and we have no idea what he said beyond what they put in the interview, but right now going on this interview he seems like a jerk.

just saw it on tv!! bedraggled/dirty/end of world adam is HOT!! the video looks great and super cheesy… i expect to see it in the vh1 rotation soon (they still occasionally play videos, unlike MTV)

Not to say he lost nyah nyah nyah, but that the kinds of expectations his in the bubble fans have are a.) not based on facts of how Adam lost the show b.) do him no favours.

Just because we are barred from discussing how Adam lost the show here at MJs, do not assume that Adam fans are not aware of how he lost.

I, for example, too those reasons into account when I predicted US sales of 200,000 copies for his album — a number that I probably willl need to revise upwards to perhaps 350,000.

I would say that an Idol winner should be expected to sell a minumum 750,000 to 1,000,000.

Cindij
October 20, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I only watched Flashforward once, but in the episode I saw the person they referred to was approx 5′ ²8′ ³ so that excludes Adam

No, witnesses often have a hard time judging height. LOL!

anthrogeek

Q3: I have a feeling that there is ‘synergy’  involved but I can’t find the link.

Found the link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJyfh2bZvQ

OK, I can agree with that!!

Yeah I was enjoying Adam’s song today and the video coming out to see tonight and now I have to read about votes and if Kris won by people cheating for him. My lord, that was in May were now in October and this is going on again. I voted for Kris but I would have been just as happy if Adam would have won. Am enjoying today so much and now this starts again.

It IS flippant because he is just acknowledging the poverty and how lucky he is that he isn’t poor, but he doesn’t say anything about wanting to change it.

The words are there.. in black and white. They were said. That is fact.

Your interpretation of them being “flippant’ on the other hand, is simply that. Your projection on someone else’s words.
We all do it. Doesn’t make it true or factual.

And Adam has certainly tried to do charity work, so not like he doesn’t get it.

So yeah, whatever.

Like what? I’m serious because I haven’t seen any kind of charity work on Adam’s part, but if you know of something it would make me feel better about his ditsy quote.

He was saying how it changed him and that he said as someone growing up fairly affluent in an affluent country, no, he hadn’t seen real poverty they way he was when confronted with it in another country.

This. Although, poverty looks very different in third world countries than in the U.S. We don’t don’t have shanty towns for miles on end, or three year old children chasing after tourists on city streets asking for money only to be chased away by the militia. I’ve never felt luckier than the first time I traveled and saw the level of poverty.

It IS flippant because he is just acknowledging the poverty and how lucky he is that he isn’t poor, but he doesn’t say anything about wanting to change it.

Whoa. This is where we’ll have to agree to disagree. Just because someone doesn’t decide to make solving poverty their mission in life does not mean they are flippant. That’s way too big of a logic leap for such a short interview piece.

In the TfM Music Video — is Adam wearing the same scarf that he has on in the Cavallo studio photos on EW.com?

If so, I guess he got to keep his wardrobe!

The mysterious guy on #ff is so not 5’8″. It’s Adam.

BTW, I saw nothing flippant whatsoever in the interview. And he has said that when he performed on the cruise ship when he was 19, which he noted was horrible, and then as part of the tour of Hair, it also helped him to understand what the rest of the world was like, as he had been sheltered as an upper class, white kid in an affluent neighborhood.

Someone who supported teachers and students with DonorsChoice is extremely generous and this is just the beginning. He will not horde his earnings. He will help those who are less fortunate. And he is going to be very successful. I sincerely believe this.

ETA: WTF do we have to do to get Adam to #1 on iTunes in the US? Or at least #10? B/c I will do it.

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

PUH-LEEEEEZE! Alternate universe reality? When AI states this as a reality, I MIGHT believe it.

ilovekrisallen39
October 20, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Yeah I was enjoying Adam’s song today and the video coming out to see tonight and now I have to read about votes and if Kris won by people cheating for him. My lord, that was in May were now in October and this is going on again. I voted for Kris but I would have been just as happy if Adam would have won. Am enjoying today so much and now this starts again.

Awww, ITA.

How do you like Dirty Adam?

really guys fan-war?! tsk tsk tsk

THANK U SOO SOOO SOO MUCH BEEHIWAY!!!!!!!! I’ve been waiting for that forever!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
Adam is soooo amazing in thy interview.I have no words for it.um,okay he making ME like the details pics.I don’t know whether to be grossed out at how pervy that ai or bow down to his glamness:D he’s friggin hilarious!!!!!

it almost makes up for the tfm mv et thing being” video not available” ARGHHHHHGGGG

but thnx beehiway<3

Truthiness, no where in the article does it say how it changed him

He said, ” It affects your perspective like crazy,” so yes, it affected, i.e. changed, his perspective about things…as he puts in context, from being from a life of relative privilege to dealing firsthand with those that are really very poor. So yes, I saw even in that article that he was referring to how it changed (affected his perspective) by his experience.

I wasn’t aware he had to then make a plea for the World Bank to make more microfinanced loans.

Your interpretation of them being ‘flippant’ on the other hand, is simply that. Your projection on someone else’s words.
We all do it. Doesn’t make it true or factual.

Flippant: lacking proper respect or seriousness

Adam Lambert:”And I got to do a lot of shopping. It affects your perspective like crazy. Somewhere in the South Pacific I saw a really poor Third World island and I was like, ohhhh. I had never seen that. I was kind of, like, upper’“middle’“class and white’“bread’  Do you really think that what he is saying is not flippant? First of all he can’t even NAME the country, it is just some “third world island”. Second, he learned this from shopping? I’m sorry but you may not think it is flippant but I sure as hell do.

Very hot adamaloha. And thank you.

I love coming here and reading all of your comments and this is one time I hope MJ comes thru and deletes all of the fanwaring ‘“ it is so NOT FUN to read

Unless she’s already come through and done a sweep there doesn’t seem to be anything really heinous going on today.

It IS flippant because he is just acknowledging the poverty and how lucky he is that he isn’t poor, but he doesn’t say anything about wanting to change it.

I guess maybe that is why his charity of choice is one that aids students in less that middle class settings. Maybe instead of talking the talk, he’s walking the walk.

I don’t know General Hospital ‘” can someone tell me if Dante Falconeri usually dresses like that.

Yes, Dante usually dresses like that. He’s an undercover cop from NYC, who has infiltrated the Port Charles mob. Unbeknownst to him, his father, who he has never known is the top godfather. This also seems to be the foreshadowing of a new storyline as we all know he can’t bring down Sonny Corinthos, and some of the imagery alludes to something new being revealed about Dante.

I do understand how you can feel knollish …..I know if you figure out the linkage you will fill us in. I think people are yanking our chains. I really do.

ilovekrisallen39, I’ll talk about the Aam vid clip with you! I liked the hair parted in the middle. I don’t know why. It looked silky.

Adam’s banner is now at the top of the iTunes chart permanently, it seems. AND YET HE CANNOT GET TO #10. Who is stopping this? Bitter.

Back in the old days, iTunes used to use bars to represent sales. You could see that the bottom 90 slots in the top 100 were closely bunched. Sell 10,000 copies in day, and you could pass dozens and dozenes of songs. The top ten is much more stretched out. It might take 10,000 more sales just to catch the next song up the ladder.

It’s like a car race when a fast car gets sent to the back of the pack. It can pass the first 30 cars like greased lightening, then it gets to the front of the pack and it might be half a lap behind the next car. It takes time, even if its the fastest car on the track (and we don’t know if Lambert is gaining at this point, although we can logically assume he probably is).

Numbers don’t lie. Kris got more votes by a huge margin. That’s reality and that’s what I look at when I set my expectations.

PUH-LEEEEEZE! Alternate universe realty? When AI states this as a reality, I MIGHT believe it.

Kris won, that’s reality. And again, this isn’t anti-Adam, this is realistic expectations are good for Adam and having things otherwise, sets Adam up for failure.

Yeah I really like Adam’s hair like that,so sexy and hot.

Wow- i had no idea they used the whole Mad World song for GH. COOL!

This is on Adam’s website. Do you think they are going to debut Adam’s video early?

Big Adam News Tomorrow Morning!
OCTOBER 20, 2009, 5:49 pm

Want to see a miracle happen? Head to myspace music EARLY tomorrow morning to see something very special. Then head back here to discuss what you just saw right here in the comments.

When shows use Mad World does anyone know who gets paid for it

(and we don’t know if Lambert is gaining at this point, although we can logically assume he probably is).

Thank you, hwc, that was very helpful, except isn’t this MR. LAMBERT? Just checking.

ilovekrisallen39
October 20, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Very hot adamaloha.

(I need a hothothot smiley here. Where are the smileys???)

This is on Adam’s website. Do you think they are going to debut Adam’s video early?

No….Midnight tonight is early tomorrow morning. That’s when they said.

That was just to throw us off the trail. We know Adam is Subject Zero.

It was on the internet.

What did i miss? Tell please.

It’s like a car race when a fast car gets sent to the back of the pack. It can pass the first 30 cars like greased lightening, then it gets to the front of the pack and it might be half a lap behind the next car. It takes time, even if its the fastest car on the track (and we don’t know if Lambert is gaining at this point, although we can logically assume he probably is).

thanks, hwc. Makes sense when you explain it so clearly.

unique28v – the video is coming out tonight at midnight according to MJ’s header above.

beehiway
nothing but me adding my 2 cents only to find out I was totally off base – so just ignore it quickly

What did i miss? Tell please.

I think by the internet they mean here and Twitter and ontd_ai and IDF.

But I could be wrong.

Okay, peeps, gotta go home. Will get back online sometime around, oh, I don’t know, MIDNIGHT. It’s been fun (for the most part).

EMO!ADAM FOR THE WIN. luv, go do your homework. Ciao for now.

We have absolutely no way of knowing what was said to the reporter and not included in the article, as is typical of any interview every written in more than a transcripted Q&A format. Period.

Exactly, anthro!! And even in a transcripted Q & A format, it is still edited. Usually way more questions are asked then are ever published and only a portion of the response is given in order the keep the interview moving, cut out rambling and stay on point.

Or like “Mine That Bird” (hoping)

adamaloha
October 20, 2009 at 8:04 pm

It’s like a car race when a fast car gets sent to the back of the pack. It can pass the first 30 cars like greased lightening, then it gets to the front of the pack and it might be half a lap behind the next car. It takes time, even if its the fastest car on the track (and we don’t know if Lambert is gaining at this point, although we can logically assume he probably is).

thanks, hwc. Makes sense when you explain it so clearly.

When shows use Mad World does anyone know who gets paid for it

The writers and whatever publishing company or studio or whomever hold the rights. But not the singer in this case.

I just saw the Acces Hollywood interview and it was really funny, Adam is such a troublemaker lol ohh and loooved dirty Adam in the mv, can ´t wait to see the whole thing!

From Details Magazine

At 19, he worked as a singer in a musical revue on a cruise ship for a year. ‘That showed me the world,’  he says. ‘And I got to do a lot of shopping. It affects your perpective like crazy. Somewhere in the South Pacific I saw a really poor Third World island and I was like, ohhhh. I had never senn that. I was kind of like, upper-middle-class and white-bread.’ 

Sorry, this doesn’t sound “flippant” to me. He was 19 years old. Traveling around the world for the first time. I imaging that growing up in San Diego, Adam had some exposure to poverty — but that would not prepare anyone for the poverty that exists in some parts of the South Pacific. If he said, I saw a lot of poor people and went “ooooh” and then decided to go shopping to forget them, then I would agree with your point. But that isn’t what he said.

I grew up in middle class suburbs but spent a lot of time in the 1960′s in the Appalachian south so I had exposure to poverty when I was young. But nothing prepared me for the poverty I saw when I first traveled to the Carribean and Latin America.

“I would say that an Idol winner should be expected to sell a minumum 750,000 to 1,000,000.”

I agree. Although with the amount of publicity Adam is getting he should do better than that. Oh wait, I guess you were talking about some guy called Chris. Last I saw him, 19 was getting him gigs at parking garages.

And if we’re comparing runners up. Adam should be doing as well as ARchie did last year. So far, he’s falling behind on downloads although he could catch up as the week progresses. Archie moved 700K albums last year so I’m not sure why Adam would be expected to sell fewer albums.

The original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo

The Sequel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNYchYZnT1E&feature=player_embedded

and has it occurred to anyone that the easiest way to stop the fanwarring is just not to rise to the bait? Stop comparing Adam and Kris, stop defending Adam and Kris, just enjoy their accomplishments. and keep on snarking…

beehiway
October 20, 2009 at 8:02 pm
That was just to throw us off the trail. We know Adam is Subject Zero.

What did i miss? Tell please.

Apparently missed the sarcasm and snark! LOL I was referring to the 2 or 3 days worth of twitter and blog sites that dedicated themselves to debating whether Adam was Subject Zero. We were bored, ok?

So I just read the details interview, am I the only one who thought Adam came across really bad?

Probably. I find most Kris fans to be cordial and non-judgmental with regard to his best buddy during the season and on tour. Love Kris, too, so would not spend my time posting comments just to find fault.

I expect Adam and Kris to both be successful, and, hopefully, others in the Top 10. But you are entitled to your opinion, of course, whether anyone agrees with it or not. And I do not.

And if we’re comparing runners up. Adam should be doing as well as ARchie did last year. So far, he’s falling behind on downloads although he could catch up as the week progresses.

There will never be another Little Archie.

At 19, he worked as a singer in a musical revue on a cruise ship for a year. ‘That showed me the world,’  he says. ‘And I got to do a lot of shopping. It affects your perpective like crazy. Somewhere in the South Pacific I saw a really poor Third World island and I was like, ohhhh. I had never senn that. I was kind of like, upper-middle-class and white-bread.’ 

Adam said, “ohhhh,” not “wheeeee!”

And he said it changed his perspective. He said he had lived an upper middle class, white bread life, which means he has the self awareness to know how narrow his upbringing had been.

He believes in helping others. He has raised tens of thousands for schoolkids, many of whom live in poverty areas.
Really, he is a remarkable and sensitive young man.

Probably. I find most Kris fans to be cordial and non-judgmental with regard to his best buddy during the season and on tour. Love Kris, too, so would not spend my time posting comments just to find fault.
I expect Adam and Kris to both be successful, and, hopefully, others in the Top 10. But you are entitled to your opinion, of course, whether anyone agrees with it or not. And I do not.

No where did I mention Kris so you need to keep your weird obsessions out of this, I was talking about what ADAM said, and you refused to address what he said and instead tried to start some fan warring, but guess what I’m not a Kris fan.

The guy in the beginning isn’t Dante, it’s the new character played by James Franco. Or so I gather.

The video I watched there is only one actor in it, and that guy is Dante Falconeri aka Dominick Perelli. The undercover cop. The grafitti he is looking at probably alludes to the new character that is joining GH that people are talking about. The James Franco guy. Unless there is another clip that I am missing.

As for the ‘flippant’ conversation. I didn’t see that at all. I just saw that experience as opening his eyes about something he hadn’t been exposed to being from an upper middle class, white-bread upbringing. Everything that I have seen about Adam show him to be caring about people other than himself, so a couple of lines in Details doesn’t turn him into Marie Antoinette.

You know, I am all for lowing expectations because if Adam fails it will be hard to digest, personally. On the other hand to lower then so low as if any meager acheivement will be seen as success so of negates everything that has happened since he came in second. The idea how he placed on the show should somehow signal what he sales are going to be is passe as nothing that has happened since season 2 has really indicated any kind of pattern.

On the other hand the person who said he expects Adam to outsell Clay would have to be disengenuous because not only has the musical landscape changed since then, the very outcome of season 2 was really nothing like the outcome of season 8 except that some expect the guy who came in second to best the guy who won in sales. The reasons for such thinking are very, very different.

Love dirty Adam!!! woohoo!

Prediction (again):