According to the LA Times, reporters were let into Adam Lambert’s AMA rehearsal for a few minutes yesterday, but then were quickly ushered out:

For about five minutes, this reporter was allowed to write notes from a cushy blue chair in the audience during Lambert’s rehearsal, watching as dancers sashayed across the floor in spangly harem pants, leotards with torn tights and in one particular eye-catching costume, leather pants topped off with a few leather suspender-straps and silvery chains on an otherwise bare-chested male dancer. A Lambert performance, we were reminded, is not a place for demure displays of postmodern dance. As for the panther himself, he took a few leisurely leaps to various levels of scaffolding, singing into a phantom mic and writhing with whatever dancer was around. On the top level of the scaffolding, a band of indeterminate numbers played keyboards, a flying V guitar and other gadgets, all of which collude to formulate the glam-rock pyramid that Lambert mightily prays to on a seemingly daily basis.

I’m sure there will be a few more reports today, I’ll post them here when they are available. Also, check out the preview I posted last night from ABC news HERE.

The American Music Awards will be broadcast Sunday, November 22 on ABC.   I’ll be live-blogging, of course!

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  • gangreen29

    watching as dancers sashayed across the floor in spangly harem pants

    Gahh!! Adam why?!?! Or the stylist actually. This is something Adam really needs to take a stand on though. I can’t respect him until he is rallying against harem pants.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    LOL gangreen – I don’t think it was “dress” rehearsal! I’m sure they aren’t wearing the actual show costumes quite yet. But I’m with ya – not a big fan of harem pants on anyone but bellydancers. ;)

  • http://myspace.com/susanatfox sumidol

    MJ – Did you see Courtney Galliano – I saw her in the link some people put up yesterday, she was wearing a long grey top over black!! How cool is that! This is going to be amazing and I cannot wait for Sunday

  • frogcooke

    errrr… is he really dragging/pulling? that girl across the floor by her leg? what exactly is going on there?

  • Squirrely

    I can’t respect him until he is rallying against harem pants.

    LOL – I’m totally imagining the Zodiak show with this performance. Good or bad – it will be talked about afterwards, as with everything associated with Adam.

  • sunny2

    I like his Bowie t-shirt.

  • OhMyRawrrr

    frogcooke
    11/20/2009 at 10:57 am
    errrr’ ¦ is he really dragging/pulling? that girl across the floor by her leg?

    Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor? ;)

  • rockvixen

    sunny2 – I like the Bowie T-shirt too. Very cool.

    Now if only David Bowie would show up at the AMA’s! Adam would probably be too nervous to perform in front of his idol. lol.

  • saga

    Hmm, I really don’t think the AMA performance or the music video will be as racy as people seem to think… but that’s probably just me. I didn’t find the CTF performance from Zodiac “racy” for examlple and I didn’t see anything in the rehearsal that we haven’t seen from others before.

  • frogcooke

    “Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?”

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor…

  • Chicagolaw

    So excited!

  • clearone

    errrr’ ¦ is he really dragging/pulling? that girl across the floor by her leg?

    From the sounds of it I think that is going to be one of the least offensive things going on……:(

  • mmb

    Adam = panther…i like that!

  • suebrody

    If David Bowie showed up, Adam would explode. I love the t-shirt, I love Courtney Galliano, and I love Adam. And yeah, this totally reminds me of the Zodiac Show (PYRO!!!).

    Harem pants? I remember when harem pants were in. ;)

    I wanna see him shimmy across the set, cane in hand, with some GLORY NOTES to seal the deal. 8) (Still streaming FYE, BTW; maybe CD will come tomorrow, say yes say yes say yes.)

    P.S. He’s getting awfully skinny and there’s too much hair gel going on. I *knew* that’s why he was growing his hair out!!!

  • star

    sumidol, I think this may be Courtney?

  • Squirrely

    Hmm, I really don’t think the AMA performance or the music video will be as racy as people seem to think’ ¦ but that’s probably just me. I didn’t find the CTF performance from Zodiac ‘racy’  for examlple and I didn’t see anything in the rehearsal that we haven’t seen from others before.

    I agree – I didn’t think the Zodiak show was too racy either. This will be on parr to a Modanna/Britney performance. I think it may shock people to see a guy – not doing rap with stank dancers – being this provocative on stage. Perfomances like this is usually done by women.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    frogcooke
    11/20/2009 at 11:12 am
    ‘Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?’ 

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    Hmm, talk about apples and oranges. I don’t see Adam punching a woman in the face repeatedly or choking her until she blacks out. How does domestic violence fit into this discussion? I guess people are really unfamiliar with the kind of sexual play that is being alluded to in this performance (and video and song).

  • suebrody

    Agree, squirrely. This is why he says he’s the BOY ON THE BLOCK. The others are Madonna, Britney (ick), Miley (ick double), GaGa, and now Rhianna (hard to believe, but he says she went dark). And I don’t mean Rhianna has gone violent, BTW.

    And yeah, I think that’s Courtney in the pic. Too bad Gev won’t be doing back flips next to her!!!

  • Nobody 44

    The choreography, including the dragging across the floor, crawling around, remind me of Bob Fosse-style choreography. I don’t see the connection to any offense to women or violence/aggression in that sense towards women (or men as they seem to be possibly in leashes). All of this is a fantasy landscape, where participants are all willing in the play.

    This performance is going to EPIC.

  • Junior

    The cane seems a little caberet-ish. I hope he’s able to pull that off without it looking cheesy.

  • PattyH

    This will be on parr to a Modanna/Britney performance. I think it may shock people to see a guy ‘“ not doing rap with stank dancers ‘“ being this provocative on stage. Perfomances like this is usually done by women.

    So true! And, it’s on TV, during prime time, so I think it will be just fine. It starts at 7:00, right?

    “The cane seems a little caberet-ish. I hope he’s able to pull that off without it looking cheesy.”

    I got the feeling, from the clips we’ve seen, that the cane gets handed to him by one dancer and then he hands it off to someone esle within seconds. It would be pretty hard to sing and dance with a cane and mic in his hands, I think.

  • rockvixen

    Hmmm wonder if Adam is using that stick or the pimp cane like in the video for FYE? Hopefully the pimp cane :D

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    suebrody, Rihanna has definitely gone dark with her first single “Russian Roulette.” The first time I heard it, my heart actually started racing and I got tears in my eyes toward the end. It was startling and very disturbing. (Um, and I liked it.) I’m a big fan of hers and I’m looking forward to the new album.

  • Chicagolaw

    I agree with the posters who are saying that this will be nowhere near as racy as people are thinking. His team is watching closely, and they are very aware that this is really his big debut. They aren’t going to want to offend people a day before the album drops. And, the business side of Adam understands this as well.

  • rockvixen
  • suebrody

    short buy cute interview w/ Adam from the AMA’s dude:

    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=180571027686&id=105870741086

    *dying here*

  • GaGaGlambert

    Read the full article and didn’t see anything about it being a full dress rehearsal. Certainly, Adam’s not going to be performing at the AMAs in a David Bowie tee shirt. Now that would be radical! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/11/adam-lambert-kicks-off-rehearsals-for-the-american-music-awards.html

    Glittery harem pants? Pretty sure I have a pair or two from a former decade sitting in a drawer. Gonna to look for them now and wear them to his GMA performance. Retro glam…good times!

    star, you’re right, that definitely Courtney.

  • clearone

    frogcooke
    11/20/2009 at 11:12 am
    ‘Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?’ 

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    Hmm, talk about apples and oranges. I don’t see Adam punching a woman in the face repeatedly or choking her until she blacks out. How does domestic violence fit into this discussion? I guess people are really unfamiliar with the kind of sexual play that is being alluded to in this performance (and video and song).

    Yes they are and it’s not the kind of mind opening experience I want.

  • suebrody

    suebrody, Rihanna has definitely gone dark with her first single ‘Russian Roulette.’  The first time I heard it, my heart actually started racing and I got tears in my eyes toward the end. It was startling and very disturbing. (Um, and I liked it.) I’m a big fan of hers and I’m looking forward to the new album.

    Oh, really? Cool, b/c I was kind of over the other stuff. Kind of treacly, IMO. But she has a beautiful voice, so I might have to check it out (I do have her latest album.)

    Note, BTW, that Adam is going to be on the Red Carpet wearing “his boots.” LOL

  • DLee

    Hmmm wonder if Adam is using that stick or the pimp cane like in the video for FYE? Hopefully the pimp cane

    The stick is probably a rehearsal prop.

  • Crayonas

    I think this is an amazing phenomenon. For years a bunch of people, from Prince and Madonna to Nsync and Britney, have been doing “worse” things than this. And yeah, even in these lame awards, but now some people want to be all puritan about it. Why? I don’t know, but I’ll keep reading to find out. lol

    And if some people think this little play equals domestic violence, well, I’m REALLY sorry about their sex life. But they probably aren’t getting any, so it kinda doesn’t matter.

  • dhunken

    Hmm, talk about apples and oranges. I don’t see Adam punching a woman in the face repeatedly or choking her until she blacks out. How does domestic violence fit into this discussion? I guess people are really unfamiliar with the kind of sexual play that is being alluded to in this performance (and video and song).

    Or trying to find fire where there is no smoke……but everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect it even if I strongly disagree with it.

  • rockvixen

    ‘Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?’ 

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    Yep Rhianna would like being dragged across the floor during a dance sequence.

  • saga

    The cane seems a little caberet-ish. I hope he’s able to pull that off without it looking cheesy.

    I agree, I am really hesitant about the cane…

  • BeckyMD

    short buy cute interview w/ Adam from the AMA’s dude:

    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=180571027686&id=105870741086

    *dying here*

    I like the look Adam gave to the AMA guy, like ‘are you serious? I’ll walk the red carpet, not for me, for my freaking boots!’

  • frogcooke

    “And if some people think this little play equals domestic violence, well, I’m REALLY sorry about their sex life. But they probably aren’t getting any, so it kinda doesn’t matter.”

    excuse me?

    guess im not getting any then… no whips and shackles for me. I’ll have to inform the hubby then.

  • saga

    suebrody, Rihanna has definitely gone dark with her first single ‘Russian Roulette.’  The first time I heard it, my heart actually started racing and I got tears in my eyes toward the end. It was startling and very disturbing. (Um, and I liked it.) I’m a big fan of hers and I’m looking forward to the new album.

    I love Rihanna too and I really liked RR. Yeah it’s a shocking song and very disturbing but still love it…

  • gangreen29

    ‘Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?’ 

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    Come on, domestic abuse is a really serious thing, all we have is a still image, we don’t know what is actually happening, so no I don’t think we compare this yet to what Rihanna went through.

  • koshka

    rockvixen
    11/20/2009 at 11:24 am
    Hmmm wonder if Adam is using that stick or the pimp cane like in the video for FYE? Hopefully the pimp cane

    He has a gold pimp cane in the vid. :)

  • unique28v

    I think it may shock people to see a guy ‘“ not doing rap with stank dancers ‘“ being this provocative on stage. Perfomances like this is usually done by women.

    Yup!!

  • unique28v

    Yep Rhianna would like being dragged across the floor during a dance sequence.

    She’s been dragged before during performances. lol Anyone who listens or watches R&B/Hip Hop performances will think this is tame in comparison. lol

  • LindaT

    Chicagolaw
    11/20/2009 at 11:26 am
    I agree with the posters who are saying that this will be nowhere near as racy as people are thinking. His team is watching closely, and they are very aware that this is really his big debut. They aren’t going to want to offend people a day before the album drops. And, the business side of Adam understands this as well.

    Agreed. And remember, all we are seeing are snippets of a rehearsal, and not even a dress rehearsal. Unfortunately a lot of reporters (especially the folks from Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight) like to focus on the most salacious bits of any story, so I wouldn’t trust them to give an accurate overview.

    And speaking again of snippets … remember all the discussion about the 30 second snippets from Adam’s album? A lot of peeps were worried about the quality of the music based on listening to the song snippets. Then they heard the full-length songs and felt a lot happier. Same is probably true here. We probably shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions about Adam’s performance based on a handful of bits and pieces. I think once we see the whole performance everyone will be feeling a lot happier.

  • suebrody

    Adam is performing “for your entertainment” and there will be no physical abuse. It sort of amazes that anyone would think Adam and his team would even contemplate that. It’s a spectacle; no humans were injured in the making of this video or AMA performance. ;)

  • saga

    He has a gold pimp cane in the vid. :)

    Yeah not sure I liked that. I got the cabare image from the movements with the cane from the AMA rehearsal.

  • baseballmom

    ‘And if some people think this little play equals domestic violence, well, I’m REALLY sorry about their sex life. But they probably aren’t getting any, so it kinda doesn’t matter

    guess im not getting any then’ ¦ no whips and shackles for me. I’ll have to inform the hubby then.

    Its ok frogcooke…….I’ll have to inform my hubby too….I wonder who he’s been having sex with all this time?

  • listen

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    This won’t be the first time, it won’t be the last time, that a DANCER gets pulled (dragged) across the floor during a DANCE performance….

    I can’t wait ’til every little thing Adam does in every situation is not put under a friggin’ microscope and/or dissected to death .

  • sanduskyday

    Our society is drenched in violence. Studies have proven that repeated viewing of violence desensitizes one to it. Adam is not the first nor last to use such images in a performance but that doesn’t make it right. Also it is much more disturbing to see a man doing this to a woman than vice versa since the amount of man on woman violence much outweighs the opposite in our society.

  • frogcooke

    “Its ok frogcooke’ ¦’ ¦.I’ll have to inform my hubby too’ ¦.I wonder who he’s been having sex with all this time?”

    thats a good question… lol

  • koshka

    She’s been dragged before during performances. lol Anyone who listens or watches R&B/Hip Hop performances will think this is tame in comparison. lol

    Sooooo true. Some of those vids make me blush – lots of overt, aggressive sexuality.

  • baseballmom

    The performance is heavy on leather and chains and includes Lambert dragging a shackled woman across the stage.

    The shackles and chains parts make all the difference…..its not just the dragging

  • saga

    Adam is performing ‘for your entertainment’  and there will be no physical abuse. It sort of amazes that anyone would think Adam and his team would even contemplate that. It’s a spectacle; no humans were injured in the making of this video or AMA performance. ;)

    Physical abuse would sort of go against the idea of “for your entertainment”, would it not?

  • mmb

    This won’t be the first time, it won’t be the last time, that a DANCER gets pulled (dragged) across the floor during a DANCE performance’ ¦.

    Exactly!!!! How in the world has this morphed into Adam condoning violence against women???

  • koshka

    For anyone that finds this offensive. I’d suggest you just don’t watch. Only you control your remote control.

    ETA: SYTYCD constantly drags dancers around on the floor, but I haven’t heard anyone protesting this. They have some pretty suggestive routines.

  • saga

    The performance is heavy on leather and chains and includes Lambert dragging a shackled woman across the stage.

    I didn’t read this, where is this from?

  • aa618892

    Ok, what got my attention here is the mention of a bonus track Adam did with Sam Sparro. “You’ll have to search for it on the internet”. What! I love Sam Sparro! Is this bonus track on any of the albums or will it be a separate single? Adam you are going to kill me!
    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=180571027686&id=105870741086

  • LindaT

    This won’t be the first time, it won’t be the last time, that a DANCER gets pulled (dragged) across the floor during a DANCE performance’ ¦.

    So true. Check out SYTYCD — happens almost every week. And it’s not violent or abusive, it’s just part of dance movement.

  • dhunken

    I think this is an amazing phenomenon. For years a bunch of people, from Prince and Madonna to Nsync and Britney, have been doing ‘worse’  things than this. And yeah, even in these lame awards, but now some people want to be all puritan about it. Why? I don’t know, but I’ll keep reading to find out. lol

    And if some people think this little play equals domestic violence, well, I’m REALLY sorry about their sex life. But they probably aren’t getting any, so it kinda doesn’t matter.

    Exactly….this is where Hicklin does have a point….Wait until we see what Janet, Shakira, Jennifer Lopez, Lady Gaga and BEP do. Oh and Rhianna’s Album cover has her in bondage attire, I am sure her performance will be dark and provocative….but Adam is the one who has to watch that whatever he may do, because it maybe offensive to the struggles of domestic violence on women. he will be the one that goes OTT. Is the uncomfortably because he is gay owning his sexuality that bother people.
    (Disclaimer: I am not saying that this is an issue for anyone on this blog or in anyway directing this part of my post to a specific person)

  • PattyH

    The shackles and chains parts make all the difference’ ¦..its not just the dragging

    I question this report because how is someone who’s shackled going to be able to dance and how long is that darn chain! :)

  • suebrody

    Physical abuse would sort of go against the idea of ‘for your entertainment’ , would it not?

    It totally would, except I do not FOR ONE SECOND believe there would be any kind of physical abuse in this performance. There will be singing and dancing. I agree-we actually have NO idea what the performance will be like till we see it.

    Kind of boggles the mind that people think there would actually be physical abuse at the AMAs.

  • baseballmom
  • LoveDaRocker

    Maybe the Harem pants are to hide what they will really be wearing (S&M skimpy stuff). I am not in show business, but if I was one of those dancers, I would like to know what I can do with a leather strap shoved right in my … well, you get the idea. Hiding them under Harem pants seems like the way to find out without making Kodak moments.

  • saga

    Our society is drenched in violence. Studies have proven that repeated viewing of violence desensitizes one to it. Adam is not the first nor last to use such images in a performance but that doesn’t make it right.

    Maybe I have watched the wrong videos but have we seen him use violence anywhere?

  • baseballmom

    sorry, that didn’t work….its in the headlines thread

  • frogcooke

    “The performance is heavy on leather and chains and includes Lambert dragging a shackled woman across the stage.

    The shackles and chains parts make all the difference’ ¦..its not just the dragging”

    -right, this is what im geting at. its not just the dragging part. because i get that in certain dance routines, its like a dance move. but its the setting in which this is. I dont imagine alot of middle america is romping around with chains all over their bedroom. its the image of it together that makes it more disturbing.

  • LoveContinuum

    Maybe he’ll do to the cane what he did to the mic stand on tour? Hell, I hope so. Adam doesn’t have a history of toning things down (unless he’s forced to, like Zodiac). I don’t think this will be sex-on-stage… but it’s going to be racy and controversial. I hope he goes all out. People who find the sexual nature of his performances offensive aren’t going to buy his album anyway. IMO

  • HappyDaisy

    The performance is heavy on leather and chains and includes Lambert dragging a shackled woman across the stage.

    The above quote is from an Associated Press story about JLo and Adam. This is a media account so who knows if it’s accurate or matches what Adam will do in the actual performance.

  • sanduskyday

    The dragging part is not so much the problem as the shackles and chains and what they may convey. I haven’t seen shackles and chains on sytycd.

  • lucy

    rogcooke
    11/20/2009 at 11:12 am
    ‘Wha? You don’t find it entertaining to be dragged across the floor?’ 

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    Hmm, talk about apples and oranges. I don’t see Adam punching a woman in the face repeatedly or choking her until she blacks out. How does domestic violence fit into this discussion? I guess people are really unfamiliar with the kind of sexual play that is being alluded to in this performance (and video and song).

    Yeah, looks like it.

    Sex *play* and real violence. Not the same, guys. Not the same at all.

    Case in point, some dominatrixes will tell you that most of their clients are *quite* powerful guys in real life. That there’s something about the shedding of power — in order to be a recipient of somebody else’s dominance in a playful, theatrical way — that is sexually and spiritually liberating to some people, including many who hold a lot of *real* power in real life. It’s certainly true for some folks I know. The power of the imagination in sex and romance is real and mysterious. But it’s a universe away from rage, abuse, and criminal violence.

    And, yeah, there are some evil people who have figured out that one way to get access to victims is to join the play world. So, yeah, that can make the play world very dangerous …. However, some evil people have also figured out that you can abuse people, get money, and generally work your criminal ways by becoming a nurse or a teacher or starting a wheelchair company or an insurance scam. There’s literally nothing that some evil people won’t sometimes turn to their own criminal uses.

    But that doesn’t make sex play the same as rape and domestic abuse. No way.

  • sanduskyday

    Maybe I have watched the wrong videos but have we seen him use violence anywhere?

    Dragging a shackled, chained person across a floor conveys violence. It may be sex play, but it is violent sex play. That is the image he is portraying according to the reports.

  • http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Buderschnookie

    Keyword: consensual.
    Makes all the difference.

  • koshka

    walk on the wild side folks… really its not that bad. LOL

    “Dragging a shackled, chained person across a floor conveys violence. It may be sex play, but it is violent sex play. That is the image he is portraying according to the reports.”

    Not in my world.

  • kittensmittens

    Sex *play* and real violence. Not the same, guys. Not the same at all.

    Thank you for your post, Lucy. ITA

  • sanduskyday

    Keyword: consensual.
    Makes all the difference.

    Yes, and it’s fine between two consenting adults in private. It’s putting it out there and children growing up seeing so much violence, that disturbs me. Our society is too accepting of these images in public.

  • frogcooke

    “Dragging a shackled, chained person across a floor conveys violence. It may be sex play, but it is violent sex play. That is the image he is portraying according to the reports.”

    right.

    “Yes, and it’s fine between two consenting adults in private. It’s putting it out there and children growing up seeing so much violence, that disturbs me. Our society is too accepting of these images in public.”

    i agree with you there..

  • saga

    Our society is too accepting of these images in public.

    I still think we should wait for the images before we judge. :grin:

  • IdolThoughts

    Can I take a moment to be completely shallow and declare that I love Adam’s hair just as it is in the picture? THAT is my favorite Adam hair do. It’s not slicked back like Elvis hair…it’s spiky and cute and is off of his face. I love it.

    The End…carry on…

  • http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Buderschnookie

    Yes, and it’s fine between two consenting adults in private. It’s putting it out there and children growing up seeing so much violence, that disturbs me. Our society is too accepting of these images in public.

    It’s the parents responsibility to shield their children from images they think may be harmful.
    It is not the parents job to prohibit the artist from making the images.

  • kittensmittens

    The dragging isn’t violent. She is wearing tights and the floor is smooth. She’s not going to get rug burn.

    Adam’s performance is a show. It’s fantasy. He’s not saying that everyone should be doing what he’s doing up on stage. Did people start buying boa constrictors for their boudoir after Britney’s VMA performance? Even if most people don’t participate in bondage (although it’s been pointed out that it’s probably more than you suspect), that doesn’t mean that it isn’t titillating to them.

  • GaGaGlambert

    includes Lambert dragging a shackled woman across the stage.

    Maybe she’s just exhausted from having a really good time and he is moving her out of the way for safety sake.

    Really, folks, it’s the AMA – on network t.v. Imaginations are running wild today.

  • koshka

    Yes, and it’s fine between two consenting adults in private. It’s putting it out there and children growing up seeing so much violence, that disturbs me. Our society is too accepting of these images in public.

    Ok.. well there are so many places to start if one wants to do something about it. The funny thing is, I don’t see people protesting/picketing the AMAs, movies, music videos, magazines & video games… or the evening news. The reality is.. is that is not going away and there are far worse images out there than the AMA performance. (although this is a hypothetical ‘this’ since none of us have seen the performances).

  • baseballmom

    It’s the parents responsibility to shield their children from images they think may be harmful.
    It is not the parents job to prohibit the artist from making the images.

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

  • dhunken

    sanduskyday
    11/20/2009 at 11:58 am

    The dragging part is not so much the problem as the shackles and chains and what they may convey. I haven’t seen shackles and chains on sytycd.

    ….and we haven’t seen the performance and the context of this section of the routine and what it will convey. For some People being handcuffed and tied up or dominated is pleasurable. I personally don’t, but, I also do not correlate it to domestic violence for people who do.

  • BeckyMD

    why will every Adam thread become so *deep*?

  • kittensmittens

    It’s the parents responsibility to shield their children from images they think may be harmful.
    It is not the parents job to prohibit the artist from making the images.

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

    We have pieced together that he is not one of the early performers. He is likely going on at least after 9pm, if not closer to 10. Tweens and younger should be in bed for school the next day.

  • RocktheFort

    Um, if you have kids and don’t want them to see this, turn the channel. If you don’t want to see it, turn the channel. Adam’s performance isn’t the first, nor will it be the last, award show performance that some people might not think is appropriate. Seems like every time I watch one of these shows, there’s at least one act that makes me go “they did THAT on tv?” lol

  • PattyH

    I really need someone to explain to me how a dancer who has been dancing the whole number, on a live TV show, is going to be able to be shackled aned chained.? I say it ain’t gonna happen and the writer had an over active imagination and took “poetic license” with his/her vocabluary!

  • bridget

    GAGA: “And, baby, when it’s love if it’s not rough it isn’t fun . . . ”

    ADAM: “It’s about to get rough for you.”

    What’s been shown of the visuals for the video and AMA performance complement FYE’s lyrics. If those lyrics don’t offend someone, neither would the visuals, I think.

    For me, he can’t push it far enough – it’s about letting go, not violence.

    I’d rather my child see anything Adam does on stage vs. the hideous crime/CSI show scenes (not that, right now, he sees either).

  • baseballmom

    We have pieced together that he is not one of the early performers. He is likely going on at least after 9pm, if not closer to 10. Tweens and younger should be in bed for school the next day.

    Most schools are out for Thanksgiving next week.

  • LoveContinuum

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

    Tape it. Watch it first. Let the kids see it, or not.

  • suebrody

    ETA: SYTYCD constantly drags dancers around on the floor, but I haven’t heard anyone protesting this. They have some pretty suggestive routines.

    Good point. Many of the modern interpretive dances are (and the most famous one is from Mia Michaels using Duffy, Mercy, with Katee and Joshua, which was nominated for an Emmy). They typically show deep emotion between the two parties (or the dichotomy of heaven/hell or good/evil and so on). And I still think of The Garden, choreographed by Sonya and performed by Mark and Courtney (Galliano, yes, that one). Brilliant, and there are torn fishnet stockings in that one. And I never thought it was a violent dance, just a brilliant one, about the push and pull of a male and female (tho it wasn’t really clear to me what the dance was about).

  • Mary102

    First, love the Bowie shirt :-) That’s hot.

    I agree ‘“ I didn’t think the Zodiak show was too racy either. This will be on parr to a Modanna/Britney performance.

    Yes I think so too. Zodiac tended to be more out there than what I’d expect on the AMAs, and even that wasn’t really that crazy.

    And ITA about the choreography (as we’ve heard of it) not really having bad connotations. Dancing is SEXY, even SYTYCD can get rather provocative and dirty with some of it’s routines, and it’s a pretty G-rated affair. I’m familiar, for instance, with the show Cabaret on broadway (revival a few years back), and there was all sorts of sexual innuendo in there, and sexualized dancing, etc. The “german/cabaret/1930s” motif for FYE definitely brings that to mind.

  • DLee

    Can I take a moment to be completely shallow and declare that I love Adam’s hair just as it is in the picture? THAT is my favorite Adam hair do. It’s not slicked back like Elvis hair’ ¦it’s spiky and cute and is off of his face. I love it.

    I totally concur. The shaggy emo kind of bothers me to look at… too much like Liza Minnelli, and combined with the makeup – it just seems like there is too much going on. The boyish emo is fine with me, shorter and neater.

  • frogcooke

    “And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.”

    yeah theres a big difference to what he was doing on AI and what he’ll be doing on the AMA’s. I dont think alot of people are going to be expecting to see that after watching him on idol.

    (and im not talking about the superfans, im talking about the ones that dont necessarily keep up with it and might tune in to see what he’s up to)

  • kittensmittens

    Most schools are out for Thanksgiving next week.

    I’m surprised. The schools where I’ve lived (WA, NY, NJ) are all in session at least Monday and Tuesday.

  • Crayonas

    A lot of typos, but oh well. Out for dinner.

  • clearone

    Yes, and it’s fine between two consenting adults in private. It’s putting it out there and children growing up seeing so much violence, that disturbs me. Our society is too accepting of these images in public.

    It’s the parents responsibility to shield their children from images they think may be harmful.
    It is not the parents job to prohibit the artist from making the images.

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

  • ianaleah

    Adam will preform, and I heard all this crap about Cabaret and Chicago and Hair and Zodiac Show and I loved them all and none of the productions changed my consciousness, just entertained me. But that’s me, if you freak out about Adam’s performance, good grief, what does that say about you? You have free will, don’t watch his video, I don’t watch what I don’t like, but I don’t care what the performer does with his art, it’s almost still a free country.

  • dhunken

    You know I just would like to say that I remember Adam being on a Cheesy show called American Idol where it was a singing/performance competition. I guess I missed the week in the competition where he was judged on whether or not he could be the Poster boy for all politically and socially charged issues they have plagued or society for decades. Did the rules for AI change and that is the mantle that the runner up is to take up? Because if it was, I sure would not have voted for Adam. I would have called a lot more for Michael. I was fooled to believe it was a singing competition and that Adam got as far as he did because of his voice and the shock and awe of his performances.

  • Mary102

    Oh, just looked at the pics above too – wow! He looks so good! And those harem pants never work unless paired with a nike sweatshirt, j/k ;-)

  • jms

    lol I feel like I’m in a concert thread again, discussing the latest “gate” from twitter reports as we wait for actual video footage.

    I’m totally with you guys on the hair. This lastest spikey but not trying to hard haircut is the best he’s shown us yet. And it looks like it’s still long enough that he can play with it and style it in different ways. Two thumbs up on the hair.

    And 4 thumbs up (I’ll use my big toes) on the Bowie T-shirt. That’s my favorite one he’s worn yet. I love see the great T-shirt collection he’s got.

  • koshka

    I’m surprised. The schools where I’ve lived (WA, NY, NJ) are all in session at least Monday and Tuesday.

    Thankfully ours in VA, MA and DC are in too. :)

  • Mary102

    You have free will, don’t watch his video, I don’t watch what I don’t like, but I don’t care what the performer does with his art, it’s almost still a free country.

    Yep. And if his performance ruffles some feathers and gets people to talk the next day, and maybe even has some people saying they were shocked or freaked out – well, I wouldn’t mind it one bit if Adam was a topic of conversation the next morning! The worst thing he could do on Sunday would be boring or bland.

  • glamatheart

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    Sorry if this was posted already. Adam talks to Access Hollywood about the concept behind the FYE video which I’m assuming will be pretty close in concept to the live AMA performance.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    Wow, saw some pics up top of Adam looking smokin’ hot – with actual smoke; saw vids of him rocking it out rehearsing FYE, proving once again that his live performance vocals are even more outstanding than his recordings, not to even mention the sexy dancing most of saw all summer long on tour vids is finally going to be on display for all to see; saw an interview of him looking really hot and “thrilled” about performing in front of many of his own idols; and if that’s not enough, doing it all wearing a really cool Bowie t-shirt that makes me not just want one, but wonder when the hell we can get our very own officially licensed Adam t-shirt with an even more colorful CD cover portrait on it, and all people can find to talk about is…. violence? WTF?? It’s a performance – its an illusion, it’s fake, it’s smoke and mirrors, and furthermore, it’s not just a woman being willingly dragged across the floor as part of a dance routine, but there are also men on leashes! Did y’all miss that part?? Holy crap, someone call PETA – stat!!! How dare he mock cruelty to animals by implying…. I dunno, fill in yer own blanks – my mind doesn’t work that way in seeing scandal around every corner.

  • LoveContinuum

    Holy crap, someone call PETA ‘“ stat!!!

    LOL

  • PattyH

    That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Telling an artist to do that would, IMO, be censorship. Really a bad thing! I think the onus should always be on the parents. That’s what parenting is all about.

  • DLee

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    Sorry if this was posted already. Adam talks to Access Hollywood about the concept behind the FYE video which I’m assuming will be pretty close in concept to the live AMA performance.

    That doesn’t look like the picture of the hotel we saw…it looks like a basement with a low ceiling.

  • ianaleah

    The costume designer said the costumes were part goth plus the high style that Adam likes. Silvery chains does not mean chains and shakles, and some stalkerwho snuuck in,and took photos said a male dancer was wearing a collar and leash, it made the news in several articles before it became clear that he was wearing a neck scarf- all the hellabellaloo for nothing-and upon rechecking-yup-it was a scarf, no bondage outfits, more like the ones worn in a dance number in Chicago. All the misinfo got printed though, and all bashing Adam.

  • koshka

    glamatheart
    11/20/2009 at 12:24 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    Wow that was a good vid. Thanks for posting, I missed this somewhere along the way. It does a nice job explaining his thoughts behind the vid.

  • RocktheFort

    Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    I get what you’re saying, but this isn’t anything new. When I was in high school in the 80s, my parents were all worried about me having AC/DC records – you know, “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap? Listen to those lyrics, they are not very nice! I loved that album, and they let me listen to it even though they hated the lyrics, but because they raised me right I didn’t turn out to be a “paid assassin”. There are always going to be things that each of us find offensive, you have to decide for yourself how to handle them.

  • dhunken

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Clearone….though I do agree with you on a fundamental level…the issues is not with the Artist..they are expressing themselves the way the feel…it is the network and produces of the AMA that are allowing the artists expression to be televised that should be taken to task for it.

  • HermeticallySealed

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Yeah, because when they tried this in the Victorian age it work out so very well . . . . Oh, wait, never mind, it didn’t. More we ignore history, the more we are doomed to repeat it.

  • suebrody

    I think what is lost in this thread is the fact that we get to hear Adam SING and DANCE (a bit) and look HOT. Where’d that go?

    (I need to re-watch the TfM video for shaggy haired!Adam.)

    Adam will never be either boring or bland. Ever.

  • Mary102

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    What? Completely disagree here. So, apparently in one week’s time, Adam should be censored into oblivion by being “not too gay”/”more gay”/”not too sexy”/”not provocative or risque”. I would never even want to live in the world you’re describing, where artists had to censor themselves to “protect the children” or whatever. If we didn’t have things that shocked, or ruffled feathers, or made people think, or get angry, or inspire a huge emotional response (good or bad), well, then we wouldn’t have much in the name of art.

    Sorry, but I’m a huge believer in freedom of speech for artists (and anyone for that matter). There is a lot of art out there that I don’t like, that I even hate, that I might even find offensive, but I’d never wish it away.

  • koshka

    ianaleah
    11/20/2009 at 12:28 pm
    The costume designer said the costumes were part goth plus the high style that Adam likes. Silvery chains does not mean chains and shakles, and some stalkerwho snuuck in,and took photos said a male dancer was wearing a collar and leash, it made the news in several articles before it became clear that he was wearing a neck scarf- all the hellabellaloo for nothing-and upon rechecking-yup-it was a scarf, no bondage outfits, more like the ones worn in a dance number in Chicago. All the misinfo got printed though, and all bashing Adam.

    Damn… I was looking forward to seeing someone where a latex hood on TV. Thats it! I’m not watching!

  • Mary102

    I think what is lost in this thread is the fact that we get to hear Adam SING and DANCE (a bit) and look HOT. Where’d that go?

    (I need to re-watch the TfM video for shaggy haired!Adam.)

    Adam will never be either boring or bland. Ever.

    Lol – too true – on all accounts :-) Can’t wait for next week!

  • GaGaGlambert

    why will every Adam thread become so *deep*?

    BeckyMD, why indeed. Seems as though anything he does – real or imagined – provides an opportunity for discussion filtered through a wide spectrum of personal lenses.

    Seeing him perform on the AI Live tour was spectacularly entertaining. So much so, I went to three shows. Never, ever entered my mind to see an AI concert before and doubt I’ll see another again.

    Think his AMA performance will be absolutely fabulous. Nothing I have seen makes me feel otherwise. For my entertainment? You bet.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    clearone: If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Very true, I mean think how much more pleasant the world would be today if we those depraved bastard Romans hadn’t up and invented nude sculpture; if that flaming pervert Michelangelo hadn’t dared to depict God in all his – gasp! – nekkid glory on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel; and oh, heavenly father, WHY did you allow a talented artist such as Edouard Manet to invent public nudity and promote exhibitionism in Luncheon on the Grass… why, oh, why, did you allow this to happen, dear lord….. sigh – I’ve lost the will to live….

  • http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Buderschnookie

    That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    If this is not tongue in cheek I don’t know what to say- censorship is never the answer.
    IMO this is the same as his mike stand jacking on tour- if the kids know what it is he’s doing it’s too late to shield them from it to start with. If they don’t know then he’s just silly dancing.

    For the record the only thing I ever shielded a child of mine from was the six o’clock news.

  • PattyH

    glamatheart
    11/20/2009 at 12:24 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    Wow that was a good vid. Thanks for posting, I missed this somewhere along the way. It does a nice job explaining his thoughts behind the vid.

    Fabulous video and explanation of the vison for his video. I get it!

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    clearone
    11/20/2009 at 12:20 pm
    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Wow. Having nothing to do with Adam or Idol for a minute, do you really believe that? That the problem with society is that parents are expected to protect their children? Clearone, I don’t know if you have children, but do you really think it’s society’s responsibility to ensure kids are exposed only to certain things? And which things? What are parents for if not to provide the appropriate guidance and upbringing as they see fit? I sure as hell don’t want society or the government or whatever telling me what my kids should and shouldn’t know or see.

  • ptslittlecomment

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    But not all parents think this is something they should protect their children from. Believe me, after being raised in a VERY conservative culture regarding drugs, alcohol and sex outside of marriage and the like, I know kids will find away to experiment with this kinds of stuff whether they are exposed to it or not. I see that today with the kids in the conservative church I attend. Maybe it is better to have it out on the table where at least there can be some discussion as to what exists.
    I could go on and give (many) examples, but ‘ll just say its human nature. The less “taboo” it is made to seem the less tempting it will be for kids.

  • dhunken

    Very true, I mean think how much more pleasant the world would be today if we those depraved bastard Romans hadn’t up and invented nude sculpture; if that flaming pervert Michelangelo hadn’t dared to depict God in all his ‘“ gasp! ‘“ nekkid glory on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel; and oh, heavenly father, WHY did you allow a talented artist such as Edouard Manet to invent public nudity and promote exhibitionism in Luncheon on the Grass’ ¦ why, oh, why, did you allow this to happen, dear lord’ ¦.. sigh ‘“ I’ve lost the will to live’ ¦.

    Anthrogeek…..I love you!….in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way. ;-)

  • koshka

    If this is not tongue in cheek I don’t know what to say- censorship is never the answer.

    Please don’t tell me that burning books are next. All those special edition photo books sold on AO – will have those nice glambert gals protecting them with their lives. Oh, no… this may lead to domestic violence as the books are removed from their clutching hands and thrown into the fires.

    ETA:
    “Anthrogeek’ ¦..I love you!’ ¦.in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way. ”
    My vote for best quote of the day. LOL

  • saga

    I still think we should wait for the actual performance before condemning it. We’ve been fooled by reports before.

  • ianaleah

    clearone, you are responsible for the children you brought into the world. i raised mine, she is a treasure. Now, raise yours.

  • jms

    wonder when the hell we can get our very own officially licensed Adam t-shirt with an even more colorful CD cover portrait on it

    THIS!!! I WANT THIS NOOOOOW.

    ADAM, if you or your peeps read this, we need merchandise with the CD cover on it. A black or blue-black T-shirt with the cosmos background and your glam cover art would be totally awesome. And hey, the colorized version of your single cover similar to the one MagicalLadee did would be fab too (but dude, not the b/w because w/o the color, it’s too Rhianna).
    Thank you!
    Love,
    Me

  • glambert

    People really need to get a life and settle down. All these hypotheticals made up from people’s imaginations….why can’t we just wait to see what Adam does and then discuss it to death? I am a HUGE fan of Adam, but all the speculating is overdone, imho.

  • Sydia

    Most of the people watching the AMA don’t know Adam. Some will watch his performance, some will change the channel, and some will get up for a bathroom break. Most people are waiting for the established acts. He has a great opportunity, and some will remember him because of it, some will get to know who he is for the first time, and most won’t care either way. That is just the way it is.

  • HermeticallySealed

    I sure as hell don’t want society or the government or whatever telling me what my kids should and shouldn’t know or see.

    Hell, I wouldn’t want my neighbor telling me what I should or shouldn’t expose my kids to. Myself, I knew what sex was at 5, mechanics and all, but it didn’t turn me into a sex fiend. I was well out of high school before my first time. I saw nudity often because my dad was a photographer and had many photo books that contained it. Didn’t make me violent, or “perverse” or try anything wild. In fact, I was very much a goody two shoes growing up. Saying that any of this sexy dancing and whatnot is ruining the world is ignoring actual facts on what is really causing misery in this life.

    But, in defense of the prudish Victorian times, we did get nifty table skirts and dust ruffles. . .

  • Mary102

    Holy crap, someone call PETA ‘“ stat!!! How dare he mock cruelty to animals by implying’ ¦.

    LOL. Oh, no – Now we’re gonna add another scandal to the mix (rolls eyes).

  • koshka

    jms -

    I’m dying to see the back of the CD. I only saw a blurry shot of it. The back looks cooler… even in the Michelin man outfit. It looked as though it was a photoshopped cartoon. I really curious. I think this image would make the best shirt!

    On another note… I saw Adam’s CD listed right up there with the big guys at target this morning. ;)

  • lucy

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel?

    Well, I do think the rest of the entertainment list should probably suggest caution.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    Anthrogeek’ ¦..I love you!’ ¦.in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way.

    Damn you, dhunken, you giveth… and then you taketh away……

  • ianaleah

    I personally think that the video is going to be great and there are people here who bash Adam in google news articles !!and are here now- acting like fans disappointed in Adam -and condeming him – deliberately misleading readers about the content of the performance!! It’s disgusting what the jealous bitter resentful fans of other people are here doing to Adam knowingly misinforming despite realizing the truth will be shown on screen. It’s pathetic and evil.

  • dhunken

    glamatheart
    11/20/2009 at 12:24 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    All those bothered by what they percieve the AMA performance to be should look at this vid and Adam’s vision on the performance. Imagination of what one thinks the performance will be is a lot more risque and provocative then what Adam is going for in the piece.

  • http://twitter.com/baxtelf baxterlf

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

    Wow, you have to be in the closet not to realize that Adam has gone so far off the AI reservation that he can’t even see it any more. All his interviews have made it clear he is doing his type of music and entertainment style and that it is not for everyone. I love the overt sexuality of the man but others will be uncomfortable with it. I’m enjoying seeing a man embrace his sexuality and flaunting it. It’s refreshing and bold.

  • Mary102

    Anthrogeek’ ¦..I love you!’ ¦.in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way.

    Damn you, dhunken, you giveth’ ¦ and then you taketh away’ ¦’ ¦

    LOL, I’ve missed you, anthrogeek :-) The voice of wit and irony during many a tour “adam-gate”!

  • jms

    I’m dying to see the back of the CD. I only saw a blurry shot of it. The back looks cooler’ ¦ even in the Michelin man outfit. It looked as though it was a photoshopped cartoon. I really curious. I think this image would make the best shirt!

    Oh, yeah!! I totally forgot about that blurry pic. It does look like it would be totally awesome for a tour T-shirt. Even more out there. I adore the CD cover art, but I like the ones people made adding unicorns and bling to it even more. That cover art totally calls out for me to get me glitter out and go to town on it.

    On another note’ ¦ I saw Adam’s CD listed right up there with the big guys at target this morning. ;)

    Woohoo!!!! So when it is stocked it’ll have a position of prominence. That should help sales big time during the shopping weekend.

    I feel like I need to make up a cheer. It’s so exciting watching all this happen.

  • lucy

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    Well, but the thing is — It’s not crap to many *adults.* And those adults who don’t like it can freely choose to turn it off it it comes on.

    Honestly, I’m not sure kids should watch much of anything on nighttime tv any more that the parents haven’t prescreened and decided about. (or daytime tv either, for that matter). But that’s okay. They *can* watch it on dvd, if we decide it’s okay.

    But I don’t see why we have to say that you can’t put anything at all on television that isn’t totally suitable for eight-year-old or 12-year-old viewing. I mean, are adults not allowed to have stuff to watch that has any mature content at all? That hardly seems right.

  • suebrody

    saga
    11/20/2009 at 12:40 pm

    I still think we should wait for the actual performance before condemning it. We’ve been fooled by reports before.

    THIS!!! And I bet GaGa’s will be 10x more provocative than Adam’s.

    I want a GLAM TOUR 2010 t-shirt.

  • http://mamadeb.livejournal.com mamadeb

    Anthrogeek:

    BRAVA!

    It is, in fact, ONLY the parents’ responsibility to decide what is and what is not appropriate for THEIR kids. It’s also their responsibility to find these things out, and Adam’s video is not clandestine. It’s been featured on at least one major entertainment news site, and it’s all over the web. Plus, the song is also out there and those lyrics are about as subtle as flames around someone’s head. It’s not hard to guess what would go on during the performance.

    There’s no way Adam sprung this on the AMAs without permission – they have to build the set and arrange rehearsal time and so on. They know. RCA knows. Yes, it seems he’s been given amazing freedom for a such a new artist, but there it is. They must WANT this performance.

    My own personal life is about as prim and proper as you can possibly imagine. I don’t even show my elbows in public, and I have to be really angry to utter even a mild curse. I have very dear friends whom I have never touched and who have never seen my hair.

    And I write sexually explicit slash fan fiction as a hobby. You don’t know what goes on in bedrooms and behind closed doors.

    I am looking forward to this performance more than I can say – Adam more unleashed than EVER!

  • LoveContinuum

    Most of the people watching the AMA don’t know Adam. Some will watch his performance, some will change the channel, and some will get up for a bathroom break. Most people are waiting for the established acts. He has a great opportunity, and some will remember him because of it, some will get to know who he is for the first time, and most won’t care either way. That is just the way it is.

    Fact? Sounds more like opinion to me. One that you’re perfectly entitled to have.

  • dhunken

    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 12:45 pm

    Anthrogeek’ ¦..I love you!’ ¦.in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way.

    Damn you, dhunken, you giveth’ ¦ and then you taketh away’ ¦’ ¦

    ROTFLMAO……

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    glamatheart
    11/20/2009 at 12:24 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W15A0XUwys8

    “A metaphor for restraint and holding back….” What, Adam, what??? No literal S&M here???!!! SCANDALOUS!!!!!

  • jms

    And I bet GaGa’s will be 10x more provocative than Adam’s.

    OMG I wonder if she’s going to do Bad Romance. I hope so. I don’t like her Paparazzi song even though the performance was awesome.

  • HermeticallySealed

    LoL, Mamadeb! Great points. And another point that has been lost in this, the show is still liable for the FCC’s rules. AMA knows what each performance will contain, as will ABC. Do youhonestly think Adam is going to get away with anything at all that isn’t already allowed on broadcast tv?

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ adamaloha

    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 12:45 pm
    Anthrogeek’ ¦..I love you!’ ¦.in a completely non bondage, non S&M, puritanical kind of way.

    Damn you, dhunken, you giveth’ ¦ and then you taketh away’ ¦’ ¦

    :lol:
    And this little exchange just made everything all right again.

    Adam, hot man that he is, is going to rock my world Sunday night.
    If you think he’s going to be too hot for you could grab your remote, kick back with Discovery Channel and have a glass of lemonade.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    jms
    11/20/2009 at 12:49 pm
    I feel like I need to make up a cheer. It’s so exciting watching all this happen.

    Rah rah sis boom bah! Adam Lambert’s going far!

    (sigh. Where’s halfie when you need him?)

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    jms
    11/20/2009 at 12:53 pm
    And I bet GaGa’s will be 10x more provocative than Adam’s.

    OMG I wonder if she’s going to do Bad Romance. I hope so. I don’t like her Paparazzi song even though the performance was awesome.

    I think the Paparazzi performance was incredible, but the shock value isn’t there anymore since it was done so well at the VMAs (and shown all over the internet afterward). I’d bet it will be Bad Romance. “Gaga Ooh La La!”

  • saga

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

    I don’t think Adams AMA performance is the only potential risky one… didn’t Miley dance around a strip pole on one of these shows? Rihanna and Gaga are performing and I remember Gagas performance on a Canadian show where she was roughened up by policemen and then had fire come out of her tits. Rihannas latest single covers has been very racy.

  • glamatheart

    ‘A metaphor for restraint and holding back’ ¦.’  What, Adam, what??? No literal S&M here???!!! SCANDALOUS!!!!!

    LOL Maybe we’ll have metaphor-gate to look forward to after the AMA’s.

  • Mary102

    Do youhonestly think Adam is going to get away with anything at all that isn’t already allowed on broadcast tv?

    But, oh, how a part of me wishes he’d try…

  • jms

    Rah rah sis boom bah! Adam Lambert’s going far!

    (sigh. Where’s halfie when you need him?)

    Yeah, somehow “S-U-C-C-E-S-S, Our Sailors are the Best!” isn’t appropriate even if it did teach me how to spell success.

    ETA: Fixed is to isn’t

  • HermeticallySealed

    But, oh, how a part of me wishes he’d try’ ¦

    Well, yes, but still. Maybe these shows should be on pay channels like HBO or Skinemax.

  • JazzRocks

    If this is not tongue in cheek I don’t know what to say- censorship is never the answer.

    Please don’t tell me that burning books are next

    .

    Beat me to it. Catcher in the Rye anyone?

    With all this sex & violence talk I feel like this is almost OT. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091120/ap_en_mu/us_american_music_awards

    Jennifer Lopez – fireworks, costume change on stage, starts in a boxing ring & ends in the audience! Lots of OTT stuff will be going on. Adam will have his work cut out for him to be water-cooler talk. I just want him to hold his own. Of course his vocals will be superior to most of the other performers.

  • dhunken

    I feel like I need to make up a cheer. It’s so exciting watching all this happen.

    I got one…and it will please Hicklin too!!

    Adam is here, Adam is queer
    Adam is fine, his CD will blow your mind
    don’t put him in a box, he will not allow containment
    it ain’t that deep….he’s only here “For Your Entertainment”

  • lucy

    Am I the only one that has repeatedly found even Adam’s “edgiest,” “raciest,” etc., performances just really quite sweet, silly, playful, and actually kind of innocent?

    Don’t know why he won’t continue in pretty much that vein. It seems to be his nature.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    mamadeb: It’s also their responsibility to find these things out, and Adam’s video is not clandestine. It’s been featured on at least one major entertainment news site, and it’s all over the web. Plus, the song is also out there and those lyrics are about as subtle as flames around someone’s head. It’s not hard to guess what would go on during the performance.

    Rock on, mamadeb! Furthermore, if Mom were inclined to yank her child away from the TV when Adam’s scandalous performance breaks out, well, she’s gonna be reaching for a phantom, because Dad has already sent Junior to bed with a stern admonishment to never watch that Rihanna/Janet/JLo/[insert your favorite artist here] garbage again!!! Good thing Adam’s on later in the show when all the precious kiddies are safely out of harm’s way.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel?

    Because people with children under 13 are more than likely in their 30′s/early 40′s. They grew up with MTV. They grew up with cable TV. They’ve watched plenty of music awards shows with “shocking” content. They know about the lyrics in rap music. They know South Park isn’t just a cartoon. They know CSI is filled with gore. They know how to use parental controls on TVs and computers. In other words, they grew up with it – they get it.

  • Mary102

    I think the Paparazzi performance was incredible, but the shock value isn’t there anymore. I’d bet it will be Bad Romance. ‘Gaga Ooh La La!’ 

    ITA – Paparazzi was awesome on the VMAs! Loved the blood thing. Siiiccck!

    I think Perez confirmed that she is doing Bad Romance and (I think) the Beyonce duet song?

  • jms

    Adam is here, Adam is queer
    Adam is fine, his CD will blow your mind
    don’t put him in a box, he will not allow containment
    it ain’t that deep’ ¦.he’s only here ‘For Your Entertainment’ 

    dhunken you are my new hero. This is great and it almost chants perfectly. I’m giving this 3 out of 4 unicorns. You missed out on the forth unicorn because the third line doesn’t chant well.

  • Planet Fierce

    Okay, I didn’t want to have to do this, but for the safety of that poor dancer’s reputation, I am going to offer up myself to take her place on stage with Mr. Adam Lambert. I know it is going to be degrading (according to some accounts), but somebody has to do it. I have to admit, I am nervous though. I mean, just the thought of his gloved hand, you know the one I mean, the one that wears that “special ring” grabbing my ankle and taking me who knows where to do who knows what………wellllllll. All I can say is that someone has to make this ultimate sacrifice and well….ah….let’s just say I am glad to take one for the team.

  • saga

    Am I the only one that has repeatedly found even Adam’s ‘edgiest,’  ‘raciest,’  etc., performances just really quite sweet, silly, playful, and actually kind of innocent?

    Don’t know why he won’t continue in pretty much that vein. It seems to be his nature.

    I agree totally, I don’t see sexual aggessivity in anything he has done. Look at his album cover. He could have gone alpha domineering male with leather on that one and he didn’t. I don’t really think he is into dark stuff, but more the very playful stuff. I think a lot of description we are getting regarding the MV and AMA is the media running away with an image they have of him as a provocative performer. Zodaic was provocative (maybe) but definetely not sexually provocative, imo.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    I know if I was worried about being offended by a tv show, a video, a piece of music, whatever…I just would not watch or listen. Just don’t turn it on or don’t buy it. It is pretty simple… I hear Danny Gokey has a pretty family friendly toe tapper ditty going on. :) I mean I would not be letting my kids watch the AMA performace, but I will be!

  • Mary102

    I agree totally, I don’t see sexual aggessivity in anything he has done.

    Hmm – I think he got the most into it with WLL on the tour – that could be very masculine, aggressive, sexual, etc – particularly in the context of being an AI tour performance. It was never violent, and it certainly didn’t come close to shocking me, but I would put it in that “sexually aggressive” category.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    lucy
    11/20/2009 at 1:00 pm
    Am I the only one that has repeatedly found even Adam’s ‘edgiest,’  ‘raciest,’  etc., performances just really quite sweet, silly, playful, and actually kind of innocent?

    Don’t know why he won’t continue in pretty much that vein. It seems to be his nature.

    Not the only one at all, lucy…. I agree. Just like with the gay (non-) issue, he’s not standing on a soapbox for or against anything else, either – he’s just being a fuckin’ entertainer. And to me, he’s highly entertaining. He also happens to have his debut CD dropping the very next day, so if he didn’t go full-out balls to the wall, he wouldn’t be the Adam I grew to love. The day he stops giving it everything he’s got is the day I stop watching.

  • saga

    Hmm ‘“ I think he got the most into it with WLL on the tour ‘“ that could be very masculine, aggressive, sexual, etc ‘“ particularly in the context of being an AI tour performance.

    You might be right, though I would call that a sexual challenge not aggressivity. Still many reports from the concert said his performance had a very fun air to it, not sinister, but I didn’t attend so I don’t know.

  • gangreen29

    Very true, I mean think how much more pleasant the world would be today if we those depraved bastard Romans hadn’t up and invented nude sculpture

    ?? I think someone needs a refresher on her ancient art. Nude sculpture was done way before the Romans. In fact many in Rome detested the Greek influence of nude sculpture when it arrived. Sorry, that is the bitchy art historian in me talking

    On topic lol, I think that without proper context we have no idea what is going on. I can’t imagine Adam is going to get up on stage at the VMA’s and mock beat up a woman. If he does, we can bitch then, but until I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

  • becausehelives

    Here’s what I think, Adam will lose some pearl clutching AI fans after this AMA performance but then he will probably gain some AI hating, edgy fans. so hypothetically, if he started with 100 fans and loses 20 AI bubble fans but gains 50 non AI fans ( cos the outside world is bigger than the AI bubble) then he shld be fine. rock on Adam.

    by the way I was a little grossed out with the blood and hanging gaga VMA production but it didn’t stop me from listening to her music. it’s just a performance!.

  • baseballmom

    Because people with children under 13 are more than likely in their 30′s/early 40′s. They grew up with MTV. They grew up with cable TV. They’ve watched plenty of music awards shows with ‘shocking’  content. They know about the lyrics in rap music. They know South Park isn’t just a cartoon. They know CSI is filled with gore. They know how to use parental controls on TVs and computers. In other words, they grew up with it ‘“ they get it.

    I am one of those parents and I know everything you just wrote. However, you mentioned all these shows that are on CABLE, not network TV. And no, if I didn’t follow AI online, I would have no idea Adam would perform something of this nature on a music awards show based on his AI performances. You think parents should know to put parental controls on the AMAs…seriously? lol. Yeah, we know to nix rap, MTV, etc……but the AMA’s? I could totally see something like this on the MTV awards, but this is ABC on Sunday night. Not one parent is gonna think of putting controls on this show.

  • Ladyguard

    And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel? Adam Lambert was on AI, they won’t have any idea he’ll be doing something of this nature.

    Lady GaGa is going to be performing. That in itself should tell people that their young and impressionable children should not be watching. This is the AMA awards. Most of these artists performances and videos are not child sensitive.

  • RocktheFort

    Kind of OT, and maybe someone already brought up, but is it weird to anyone else that Adam and all the dancers have to wear those silly pink bracelets during rehearsal? I guess that’s their security measures to make sure no one whose not supposed to be there gets in….

  • sanduskyday

    Very true, I mean think how much more pleasant the world would be today if we those depraved bastard Romans hadn’t up and invented nude sculpture; if that flaming pervert Michelangelo hadn’t dared to depict God in all his ‘“ gasp! ‘“ nekkid glory on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel; and oh, heavenly father, WHY did you allow a talented artist such as Edouard Manet to invent public nudity and promote exhibitionism in Luncheon on the Grass’ ¦ why, oh, why, did you allow this to happen, dear lord’ ¦.. sigh ‘“ I’ve lost the will to live’ ¦.

    Regarding the comment I’ve quoted, there is nothing wrong with artistic nudity. There is nothing wrong with sex play of any type between consenting adults in an appropriate place (don’t forget your safe word lol). The point being missed is the portrayal of violence and degradation of women that is implied by what has been written about Adam’s rehearsal. Plain and simple. The argument that if you don’t enjoy watching a woman being degraded on national television for the sake or “art”, you are somehow a prude or “not getting any” is completely off point.

  • BeckyMD

    Not one parent is gonna think of putting controls on this show.

    Did luv said yesterday that her parents wouldn’t let her watch AMA?

  • Mary102

    You might be right, though I would call that a sexual challenge not aggressivity. Still many reports from the concert said his performance had a very fun air to it, not sinister, but I didn’t attend so I don’t know.

    Well, “kick-gate” was aggressive (though not particularly sexual), but then that was just one performance, and not planned. Having seen the WLL performance a few times on tour, I would tend to call it sexually aggressive, again, more so in the context of it being an AI tour, since it was still pretty tame by a lot of music performance standards in general.

    I get what people are saying about “risque” or “controversial” Adam also tending to be mixed with a healthy dose of charm and sweetness and fun – ITA with that. Though I also think there’s the more aggressive, masculine side of him too that appears every now and then on stage. Hell, he’s such a chameleon, we’ve seen him play out just about EVERY part on stage at this point – that’s part of the fun (and why I can’t stop watching)!

  • RocktheFort

    Network TV has had objectionable content on it for years – I am a parent and I do censor what my kids watch, network or not.

    ETA: I’ll be missing one of my favorite shows, Desperate Housewives Sunday night at 9 for the AMAs! Now there’s a family show on network TV! I tape it and watch it after the kids go to bed.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    I could totally see something like this on the MTV awards, but this is ABC on Sunday night. Not one parent is gonna think of putting controls on this show.

    Then it seems like people would have a problem with the television network not the performer…..artist’s by there nature will push the envelope, it is the vehicle through which it is being presented responsibility to make sure it is appropriate for there audience. ABC has seen Adams rehearsals for the AMA’s, and I am sure if they thought it was going to cost them fines or censorship issues, there would be changes made. If I was worried about my children seeing something inappropriate, I would record it, and review it myself before letting them watch…we always have a choice!

  • Mary102

    Regarding the comment I’ve quoted, there is nothing wrong with artistic nudity. There is nothing wrong with sex play of any type between consenting adults in an appropriate place (don’t forget your safe word lol). The point being missed is the portrayal of violence and degradation of women that is implied by what has been written about Adam’s rehearsal. Plain and simple. The argument that if you don’t enjoy watching a woman being degraded on national television for the sake or ‘art’ , you are somehow a prude or ‘not getting any’  is completely off point.

    Well, putting aside the fact that we know very little about the actual performance, or how it will appear in context, to really say anything more about how women are portrayed, etc. I would say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the matter.

    I would never tell someone that, if they didn’t agree with or support some controversial work of art, they didn’t “get it” or were stupid or anything like that. Censoring the work is not the answer, but condemning those who don’t like it, or those who do, is definitely not the answer either. Again, the best art is meant to be thought-provoking, to make one think, to elicit an emotional response, be it good or bad. JMO, YMMV, yadda yadda.

  • IdolThoughts

    Why does everything have to be kid-friendly? I just don’t get that. It seems like too much responsibility is thrust onto the media to protect kids. How about parents do the best they can to filter what their child sees and when they do see it (and they will) use it as an opportunity to have an open discussion. If we want our kids to be morally courageous we have to present them with a clear picture of both sides so that they can make good choices. If we take the power away and hide the “real world” from them we’re not doing them any favors. I’m not saying that we should subject our kids to adult images…I’m saying…parents need to focus their energy on parenting their kids…not the media.
    A little OT but cute…my 3 year old boy saw Adam’s album cover on the LA Times yesterday and asked “Who is this pretty girl?” I said, “That’s Adam Lambert. He’s a boy.” And my son said, “Wow, he’s beautiful.” And he was right. And I love the fact that for now at least, there was no prejudice or confusion or scandal.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    I am one of those parents and I know everything you just wrote. However, you mentioned all these shows that are on CABLE, not network TV. And no, if I didn’t follow AI online, I would have no idea Adam would perform something of this nature on a music awards show based on his AI performances. You think parents should know to put parental controls on the AMAs’ ¦seriously? lol.

    Then, as one of those parents, you know that most shows on network TV aren’t exactly “family-friendly” anymore. My point is this generation of parent grew up in a different time, media-wise, than the generation before it. They SHOULD be a little more savvy and aware. And the AMA’s have never been wholesome fare. So, it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that there might be a racy performance or two or three on the show. Besides, what child wants to sit through the AMA’s. Seriously.

  • garden gnome

    I wasn’t reading as much here during the AI season but I was wondering if people went as ballistic over Flo Rida’s “Right Round” performance? I mean, that was something I thought was totally inappropriate, given the amount of tweens that watch the shows! I am not wanting to censor it all, just the timing was off to me. What about JT and Sexy Back? Should he have been censored? I mean, they bleeped out “motherf…ers” on the radio here but I guarantee you that every kid knew what he was really saying.

    I know this has probably been discussed but calling Adam’s attire in the video “Nazi” like was really digging deep (far fetched) to find something to fling at Adam. I think that a certain amount of people just are not going to be comfortable with Adam and will use any opportunity to crucify him. Me? I think he is sex on a stick and I cannot WAIT to see him perform live on Sunday. And the icing on the cake is Adam’s talent, BB can sing and perform like no one I have seen for a long, long time.

  • Tess

    Why is it that as soon as a kid becomes an adult and has kids they tend to loose all knowledge of what it was like to be a kid. Man, I remember giving my younger brother the sex talk when I was 14 because my parents were too uptight to do it.

    Also, Kids don’t see or hear what you think they do. They probably don’t get the same conotations from things that adults do…and their standard response is “how gross” to things that they find uncomfortable. And if they see something that is out of their realm of expertise (though I know many 8 years old that know more about the world than I do) they should have their parents there to ask the questions to.

    And….7 o’clock network TV is full of violence and death and shootings and sexual inuendo on a regular basis. In fact didn’t someone commit suicide on Fast Forward last week. C’mn, network TV isn’t Disney (ever) and to be really honest Disney isn’t kid friendly in my book…wicked witches, and hunters killing Bambi’s mom, and sword fights to the death etc. etc. etc.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    sanduskyday: The point being missed is the portrayal of violence and degradation of women that is implied by what has been written about Adam’s rehearsal. Plain and simple.

    Nope. Wasn’t missed at all, just dismissed as a total non-issue, in every way possible. Plain and simple.

  • sanduskyday

    Nope. Wasn’t missed at all, just dismissed as a total non-issue, in every way possible. Plain and simple

    Yup, and this is why our society is the most violent among western countries, our willingness to ignore and even embrace portrayals of violence.

  • Squirrely

    Nope. Wasn’t missed at all, just dismissed as a total non-issue, in every way possible. Plain and simple

    Adam can spit and it’s a slap in the face to gay’s, women, society and how we view ourselves and it’s creating holes in the ozone.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    I don’t think I have mentioned today how excited I am for this performance….I think it is going to be AWESOME!!!! By the pics above, our boy Adam is looking at the top of his game…Can’t Wait!

  • suebrody

    4Msrmyn
    11/20/2009 at 1:13 pm

    Checking back to see what’s up. You. Are. Still. Debating. Adam.
    Going to get snacks. Carry on.

    lol

    Sing it with me:

    I’m on a show, gotta go
    Walk around with a cane
    I might hit you I might slit you
    Cause I’m kinda insane
    It’s in fun, it’s been done
    By peeps who blow out your brains
    Here for your entertainment

    I could sing, with my ring
    Think you know what I mean
    I could wear skinny jeans
    Cause now I’m so very lean
    Gonna sing, what a thing
    With some glam and some sheen…
    here for your entertainment

    Oh oh do you like what you see
    Oh oh oh oh if you don’t turn off your TV…

    I’m here FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT!!!

  • yinyang

    I wasn’t going to comment on this thread, but:

    “And just how are most parents going to know that that will be playing on an awards show on a network channel?”

    Well, I do think the rest of the entertainment list should probably suggest caution.

    If Adam’s performance isn’t appropriate for a child, I’m pretty certain that Lady Gaga’s performance, among many others who will be on the AMAs, will also not be appropriate. They’ll all comply with the FCC regulations, as someone noted, (I doubt that Janet Jackson will be repeating her Superbowl exposure), and I’m guessing that many of the performances will be pushing the envelope. If we don’t like it, we have the option of turning the TV off, or finding something else to watch.

    A quick search online would clue any parent in to what kind of performances they might expect on the AMAs from any of the artists.

    I personally find the crime shows offensive. My sister was murdered, and I turn on my TV, and keep running across people being murdered as entertainment on TV. But, I don’t expect that to be censored, and simply don’t turn on the TV much, and am careful about what I watch.

    Same thing if you don’t watch to watch Adam shake his ass. (I do want to see that!) You have the option of turning the TV off, or finding something that you prefer.

  • evanjane

    I think the Paparazzi performance was incredible, but the shock value isn’t there anymore. I’d bet it will be Bad Romance. ‘Gaga Ooh La La!’ 

    ITA ‘“ Paparazzi was awesome on the VMAs! Loved the blood thing. Siiiccck! — mary 102

    I think Gag’s performance was comparable to a low-budget horror flick. A tribute to B-movies …

    Now PINK, that was SIIIICCCKKK! That girl was amazing. She blew me away. Incredible voice, totally jaw-dropping performance. That girl can SANG!!

  • ebkcookie

    I just want to know if anyone has a line on potential dates/locations for the tour. All this talk and speculation has me ready to book more than a night or two to experience Adam. It will be interesting to see what discussions come from his tour performances.

  • dhunken

    sanduskyday
    11/20/2009 at 1:35 pm

    Nope. Wasn’t missed at all, just dismissed as a total non-issue, in every way possible. Plain and simple

    Yup, and this is why our society is the most violent among western countries, our willingness to ignore and even embrace portrayals of violence.

    Though what you say here is true how did this all become on Adam’s shoulders. Did you see the list of performers that is going to be on the AMA. My opinion is some of them make Adam look like a Disney movie. I truly am amazed at the amount of Power some people believe Adam possess and I am not talking about his fans. To think Adam can rid our society of social and ethical problems that have plagued us for generations or can single handily bring our society to its knees is unbelievable. I don’t even put Adam on that kind of pedestal.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ adamaloha

    I really think all this is just in good fun. Every interview Adam does focuses on the fun. The sexy. The feel good.

    As someone above pointed out, there are rules that govern what can and can’t be shown on network TV. The last big brouhaha was the Superbowl “wardrobe malfunction” that caused all kinds of outrage and some pretty major financial consequenses. Networks are not going to let it happen again.

    Adam likes it when people talk about him. He does push boundaries. But to my knowledge he has never done so by causing any sort of pain to anyone and he has shown respect for all.

  • jms

    With Lady Gaga being her awesome self, the BEP and others all performing, the thing I’m most concerned about is that Adam’s performance won’t be different enough from much that has been done in the past. The S&M light is old news. So really it’s Adam’s interpretation and delivery of it that has to be original. While I’m uber confident in his delivery, I confess I’m not confident that his interpretation of it will stand out in the context of the AMAs.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    sanduskyday
    11/20/2009 at 1:35 pm

    Nope. Wasn’t missed at all, just dismissed as a total non-issue, in every way possible. Plain and simple

    Yup, and this is why our society is the most violent among western countries, our willingness to ignore and even embrace portrayals of violence.

    Tee hee. OK, once the show airs and life as we know it ends, now I know what my weekend plans are – packing up the house, boarding the windows, boxing up the dog and his Milk Bones, and preparing to flee in my Land Rover for the airport where a giant cargo plane will wisk me to safety with a selected few 100 of my closest friends…. destination: Planet Fierce!

  • flashus

    dhunken..brillant post.

  • BestAI

    jms:I feel like I need to make up a cheer. It’s so exciting watching all this happen.

    Rah rah sis boom bah! Adam Lambert’s going far!

    rowe: (sigh. Where’s halfie when you need him?)

    woot woot. Adam’s a hoot hoot. He’s gonna be goot goot (good). Can’t wait to see his boot boot. Caution the yoot yoot (youth). Don’t shoot shoot (me)

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    One of the reasons I like Adam so much, is his sexy..sexual…naughty…nature he brings to his OTT performances….I am still very surprised after the tour performance of WLL, that people are still taken back that he might do something “dirty”…I know I am counting on it! :)

  • KLI

    For an explanation of the fetish/light bondage imagery in the video, which looks like it’s also going to play out at the AMA performance, here is an extended Access Hollywood interview with Adam:

    It’s more deep than you might think! God, he’s well spoken.

  • Niall

    Any “little kid” watching the AMAs will be doing so because mom and dad are. And those little kids aren’t going to know, understand, or care about what Adam is doing.

    Teenagers see much worse than network tv everyday online or via cable tv. They’ll meet most of it with a yawn. And then they’ll wonder when the heck Jay-Z or Rihanna is coming up.

    The people who gets all atwitter, in a good or bad way, over his performance has been living in a cave or has been far too sheltered, all the way into adulthood. It won’t be anything that hasn’t been seen before, although the reactions during the tour to a pretty innocuous WLL make me think there are tons of sheltered people in his fanbase. It won’t be shocking, even if he grabs his crotch. Michael Jackson and numerous rappers have done that for years. It won’t be the first performance on network tv people want to deem “edgy.” It might not even be the most adult oriented peformance of the night. It is likely to be visually interesting and well planned, and likely something people will enjoy.

  • KLI

    One of the reasons I like Adam so much, is his sexy..sexual’ ¦naughty’ ¦nature he brings to his OTT performances’ ¦.I am still very surprised after the tour performance of WLL, that people are still taken back that he might do something ‘dirty’ ’ ¦I know I am counting on it!

    Exactly!! I am hoping for at least one gratuitous crotch grab or else I will be extremely disappointed. I mean, what’s the point of the performance if Adam holds back on the self-loving!! LOL.

  • larchcat

    Ugh, this talk all too heavy for me so I won’t weigh in but I do believe we have some debate team champs here – everyone is very eloquent about their thoughts and that’s what’s cool about MJS.
    Suebrody love your song! And yes, I sang it.

    More importantly, just want to say that based on those PHOTOS what we will be getting is some SERIOUS LIVE WAILING! And that is what I have been waiting for since the tour! BRING IT!

    All the kinky stuff is just fine with me too.

  • listen

    Adam can spit and it’s a slap in the face to gay’s, women, society and how we view ourselves and it’s creating holes in the ozone.

    ……and Global Warming. Haven’t ya heard? It is Adam’s fault all those cute little Polar Bears won’t have ice to live on in a few years. Damn Adam !

  • lucy

    I wasn’t reading as much here during the AI season but I was wondering if people went as ballistic over Flo Rida’s ‘Right Round’  performance?

    It was mentioned.

    However, thanks to AI’s patented “brainwave-scrambling-via-tv-broadcast” device, nobody here ever actually gets *really* upset about anything unless it actually personally involves an Idol.

    It’s my opinion that a visiting artist could probably record a snuff film live on the Idol stage on results night and generate less impassioned discussion than a headline implying that, say, David Cook was a superior singer to, say, Kris Allen, or that Adam Lambert was in some way similar to Clay Aiken….. JK

  • dhunken

    woot woot. Adam’s a hoot hoot. He’s gonna be goot goot (good). Can’t wait to see his boot boot. Caution the yoot yoot (youth). Don’t shoot shoot (me)

    Cute Cute!!!

  • yinyang

    Tee hee. OK, now I know what my weekend plans are ‘“ packing up the house, boarding the windows, boxing up the dog and his Milk Bones, and preparing to flee in my Land Rover for the airport where a giant cargo plane will wisk me to safety with a selected few 100 of my closest friends’ ¦. destination: Planet Fierce!

    LOL.
    Planet Fierce sounds like the perfect place to spend this glittery weekend.

    It’s going to be a fun weekend, with a lot of ass shaking, and I’m really looking forward to it!

  • evanjane

    “Why does everything have to be kid-friendly? I just don’t get that. It seems like too much responsibility is thrust onto the media to protect kids. How about parents do the best they can to filter what their child sees and when they do see it (and they will) use it as an opportunity to have an open discussion. If we want our kids to be morally courageous we have to present them with a clear picture of both sides so that they can make good choices. If we take the power away and hide the ‘real world’  from them we’re not doing them any favors. I’m not saying that we should subject our kids to adult images’ ¦I’m saying’ ¦parents need to focus their energy on parenting their kids’ ¦not the media.” — Idol Thoughts

    If only more parents had that opinion when it came to education, rather than thrusting it solely on the teachers. Parents need to be involved just as much there. If they were, maybe kids wouldn’t be watching so much shit TV and would be more productive and a hell of a lot smarter.

    LOL How simple everything is when the children are 3. Wait until they’re pre-teen and teens … those views change when it’s not just TV programs, but them going out into the real world. I have my own list of wrong choices made from when I was a teen, so I worry all the more.

    I was blessed with high honor students, sports-oriented children who play piano and guitar. I was involved and gave them productive outlets for their time. My 16 year old son all ready has aspirations of going to MIT, just like his cousin before him.

    As a parent you make up your own mind what you want your kids to be exposed to — what is right for you might not be right for another. I’ve been really open with my kids, talk about everything they want to talk about when they have questions, I answer them. Talk about drugs and drinking and the perils of it. As parents, we all just hope for the best.

    As far as Adam Lambert, my son won’t watch him and my daughter who loves Justin Beiber, Selena Gomez, Shakria, Britney Spears, et al, will probably watch for awhile, but eventually will want to watch something else. She didn’t like the whole swinging the bra around or boa stuff at the concert, so if it gets too weird she’ll stop watching.

    So enjoy Adam Lambert being edgy, but everyone might not go for it.

  • dhunken

    It’s my opinion that a visiting artist could probably record a snuff film live on the Idol stage on results night and generate less impassioned discussion than a headline implying that, say, David Cook was a superior singer to, say, Kris Allen, or that Adam Lambert was in some way similar to Clay Aiken‘ ¦.. JK

    Blasphemy!……(Gasps then faints) :mrgreen:

  • 4Msrmyn

    suebrody-Can you hear me singing? LOL I just scared the cat! (I might have scarred him, too.)

  • jms

    More importantly, just want to say that based on those PHOTOS what we will be getting is some SERIOUS LIVE WAILING! And that is what I have been waiting for since the tour! BRING IT!

    Yep. :) <3 I've got such love for those wails. I'm actually wondering if he might be using part of his time to do a mini-medley and show a bit of one or two more songs because this one doesn't seem to lend itself to quite that much wailing. Although, I suppose they could add a few more beats to allow the time for the wails.

  • Squirrely

    So enjoy Adam Lambert be edgy, but everyone might not go for it.

    true – it isn’t for everyone and after Sunday those who were unsure will decide if they want to be a fan or not. So it’s good he’s doing this before they spend their money.

  • LindaT

    clearone
    11/20/2009 at 12:20 pm

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect

    Respectfully, I don’t think that the standard for art should be that it is acceptable for children. Using that standard, a lot of great art would never have been created. And, yes, I think it is the parent’s job to decide what is appropriate for their children, especially considering that the standard of acceptability will vary from parent to parent and by the age of the child. Finally, one person’s “crap” is another person’s “art”, so ultimately it is up to the individual (and the parents) to decide for themselves what is acceptable.

  • dhunken

    So enjoy Adam Lambert be edgy, but everyone might not go for it.

    To be fair nothing he would do would have everyone going for it!

  • revcat

    Oh oh do you like what you see
    Oh oh oh oh if you don’t turn off your TV’ ¦

    I’m here FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT!!

    suebrody: Love your parody! Bravo!

  • lucy

    Adam Lambert was in some way similar to Clay Aiken’ ¦.. JK

    Blasphemy!’ ¦’ ¦(Gasps then faints) :mrgreen:

    LOL!

    See! I knew it!

  • lorismile

    Well my 9 yr old will be watching and loving Adam’s performance. I can assure you she will not be thinking of violence. She will probably be wishing she on stage. When it is done she will be yelling “that was awesome!”, and then she will rewind it to watch it again. Just like I did when I was her age. Adam isnt banned in our house but Chris Brown is. There is a big difference and I find it insulting to suggest they are the same thing.

  • BestAI

    Adam Lambert was in some way similar to Clay Aiken’ ¦.. JK

    Blasphemy!’ ¦’ ¦(Gasps then faints)

    LOL!

    See! I knew it!

    The words I always disliked but am using now: I just threw up in my mouth.

  • listen

    it isn’t for everyone and after Sunday those who were unsure will decide if they want to be a fan or not. So it’s good he’s doing this before they spend their money.

    Except, even if the AMA performance is too OTT for some, does that negate enjoying the music of FYE and still spending $ on the CD?

    I bet there are folks who may not like a particular music video (for whatever reason) but liked the music behind the video and so still purchased the music. (Or am I kidding myself here?)

  • OhMyRawrrr

    I see I’ve been quoted multiple times in this thread. Just to clarify, I was joking. I’m not sheltered or shocked – believe me, I’ve seen it all, and nothing Adam has done is shocking to me (i.e. the new video, the AMA performance, his WLL in concert).
    I don’t particularly care which direction he goes in. He can play it safe or go all the way. I personally don’t require the dirty or the sexy from him because I’m not sexually attracted to him. But if he want to do that, no problem. I think he’s pretty and I’m a huge fan of his amazing, incredible voice. I’m here for the music, and to watch the spectacle unfold :)

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/index.cgi austinmidwife

    anthrogeek – “Tee hee. OK, once the show airs and life as we know it ends, now I know what my weekend plans are ‘“ packing up the house, boarding the windows, boxing up the dog and his Milk Bones, and preparing to flee in my Land Rover for the airport where a giant cargo plane will wisk me to safety with a selected few 100 of my closest friends’ ¦. destination: Planet Fierce!”

    Yeah!! I’ll be there. We all pretty much appreciate Adam’s sexy, self-loving, OTT ways on that Planet.

    Network TV ain’t little kid friendly and most teenagers these days aren’t little kid friendly either for that matter. Sex pretty much oozes from most kids brains from the moment they hit about 13 or 14, so I’m not so worried about this.

    I can’t wait to see him jump out of the Idol box at the AMA’s into a new incarnation. As usual, he’ll have people talking and hopefully, a new host of fans. Anybody else getting soaked in this Adam Storm?

  • 4Msrmyn

    My baby turned 18, I’m done being the TV thought police. Your kids, your turn. (She got a laptop for graduation. I think you guys might be censoring the wrong machine.)

  • bmms

    Well my 9 yr old will be watching and loving Adam’s performance. I can assure you she will not be thinking of violence. She will probably be wishing she on stage. When it is done she will be yelling ‘that was awesome!’ , and then she will rewind it to watch it again. Just like I did when I was her age. Adam isnt banned in our house but Chris Brown is. There is a big difference and I find it insulting to suggest they are the same thing.

    Bravo on your comment! My son will be watching with me and I’m sure he’ll enjoy watching and listening to ‘FYE’, although at some point I’m sure he’ll ask me “Where’s Allison?” (he’s a big Alli fan) ;-)

  • lucy

    Adam Lambert was in some way similar to Clay Aiken’ ¦.. JK

    Blasphemy!’ ¦’ ¦(Gasps then faints)

    LOL!

    See! I knew it!

    The words I always disliked but am using now: I just threw up in my mouth.

    Well, I guess that’s just more evidence for what I was saying, right?

    “Snuff film” doesn’t bother you, but “Adam Lambert has a similarity to Clay Aiken … JK” provokes nausea.

    Yep, it’s an American Idol discussion group, all right, lol.

  • dhunken

    I just want to point out that Adam’s Bastard Album “Take One” keeps rising up the Itunes pop and combined charts. It is now #22 on Pop Album Chart and #91 on combined album chart. Each day since Tuesday it has steadily climbed up. Wonder if non AI fans are picking up on it and thinking it is a country album. LOL

  • Squirrely

    I just threw up in my mouth.

    Just said that yesterday on a totally unrelated matter.

  • BestAI

    So enjoy Adam Lambert be edgy, but everyone might not go for it.

    To be fair nothing he would do would have everyone going for it!

    That’s how the world works, including AI. Otherwise it would be called “American Idol, but we know everyone only loves Adam Lambert, but what kind of a show would this be if we didn’t have other singers on for fillers.”

  • saga

    I personally don’t require the dirty or the sexy from him because I’m not sexually attracted to him. But if he want to do that, no problem. I think he’s pretty and I’m a huge fan of his amazing, incredible voice. I’m here for the music, and to watch the spectacle unfold :)

    Yeah, this is where I stand also.

  • revcat

    actually no i dont.. wonder if rihanna would find it entertaining being dragged across the floor’ ¦

    I find it very odd that Rihanna thinks that the music video for Russian Roulette (which shows her looking extremely frightened while her male counterpart is playing Russian Roulette with his gun) is entertaining.

    I like the song, but find the visual very disturbing.

  • suebrody

    I just want to point out that Adam’s Bastard Album ‘Take One’  keeps rising up the Itunes pop and combined charts. It is now #22 on Pop Album Chart and #91 on combined album chart. Each day since Tuesday it has steadily climbed up. Wonder if non AI fans are picking up on it and thinking it is a country album. LOL

    Take One *what*? Can we put up a banner next to it that says Take None?

    You just said BASTARD. Clean your mouth out, sir! 8)
    I just wanna hear Adam sing…that is all. The rest is icing on the proverbial cake.

  • dhunken

    You just said BASTARD. Clean your mouth out, sir! 8)

    Oh its all Adam’s fault he corrupted me…I am not responsible….Adam is responsible for everything! ;-)

  • GaGaGlambert

    Am I the only one that has repeatedly found even Adam’s ‘edgiest,’  ‘raciest,’  etc., performances just really quite sweet, silly, playful, and actually kind of innocent?

    Adam has described it himself as “edgy with a smile” – provocative, but not scary.

    His tour WLL performances were my favorites. Loved the character he created for the song — and hope we see Mr. WLL again :) It took nothing away from the persona embodied for the Bowie medley, which I also thoroughly enjoyed. But that’s part of Adam’s brilliance, isn’t it? That he creates different realities for whatever he sings with that magnificent voice.

    FYE’s lyrics are edgy, no matter how you choose to interpret them. And Adam will create a character that will allow him to convey the essence of the song as he sees fit. If we go along for the ride or ring the alarm is up to each one of us.

    From what little I’ve seen of the video shoot and AMA rehearsals, in addition to the old Berlin and ‘Cabaret’  imagery, there is something vaguely “Rocky Horror-ish” about the visuals. I happen to love the “Rocky Horror Picture Show” and never found it anything but fun. It, too, was edgy with a smile’ ¦.and a wink and a nudge or two.

    Adam is a showman and highly creative performer. He’ll continue to evolve and go through many incarnations, I am sure. He’s a handsome hunk of fun. I can’t wait to see him on the AMA, GMA, Letterman and anywhere else his hot self shows up.

  • mistyluv7

    You GO… Lorismile!! I feel the same way. Why put pre conceived notions in kids heads. They look at things with innocent minds and will just be enjoying the spectacle (music , flashing lights and energy). What will be there above anything else is Adam’s fabulous voice and nothing can take from that. If you feel like your child shouldn’t see it, make other arrangements to keep them entertained during that time. Have Sunday night everyone!!!

  • IdolThoughts

    If only more parents had that opinion when it came to education, rather than thrusting it solely on the teachers. Parents need to be involved just as much there. If they were, maybe kids wouldn’t be watching so much shit TV and would be more productive and a hell of a lot smarter.

    LOL How simple everything is when the children are 3. Wait until they’re pre-teen and teens ‘ ¦ those views change when it’s not just TV programs, but them going out into the real world. I have my own list of wrong choices made from when I was a teen, so I worry all the more.

    I totally agree with you. I was presented with those same choices and sometimes chose good and sometimes not so good. But, ultimately it was because of the parenting I received that I chose mostly good. And the bad ones I made because I was horny, bored or just curious…not because I watched Pretty Woman or Salt n Peppa videos.

  • evanjane

    Ah, Chris Brown, he really played me. Just that week before the Rhianna thing, I told my daughter he seemed like a good kid. I’m usually not fooled like that — he really played the nice guy role so well. That smile and polite demeanor …

    With Adam, I do believe as he said, it’s all a persona. When I see photos of him with Kris and how they interact in those photos, to me, I see the real Adam. No persona, no pretense, just genuine. So, even if I don’t care for some of his decisions, musically, artistically, I still like the man he seems to be …

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    Ooh, since someone was kind enough to mention that “Take None” LOL is on the charts – can anyone post FYE’s current positions – album, deluxe, single? I can’t get the latest feed here at the office…purty please?

  • Lynneville

    Have you seen this fan vid? Adam is a Bad Influence on me!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm6q0UkWuAQ

  • RocktheFort

    Adam is a showman and highly creative performer. He’ll continue to evolve and go through many incarnations, I am sure. He’s a handsome hunk of fun. I can’t wait to see him on the AMA, GMA, Letterman and anywhere else his hot self shows up.

    ^THIS!!

    Also, they sent out an Itunes email yesterday about that Take One mess. It really sucks that there was no way to put a disclaimer on it to let people know this isn’t his “real” debut. I listened to the clips on Itunes – ugh! I would swear that on several songs it isn’t even Adam singing, doesn’t sound remotely like him. All the songs are dreary and boring and about put me to sleep. And Want is on there twice, just with two different names.

  • BestAI

    Ooh, since someone was kind enough to mention that ‘Take None‘  LOL is on the charts ‘“ can anyone post FYE’s current positions ‘“ album, deluxe, single? I can’t get the latest feed here at the office’ ¦purty please?

    Rowe, was that intentional?

  • dhunken

    rowenaaine
    11/20/2009 at 2:27 pm

    Ooh, since someone was kind enough to mention that ‘Take None’  LOL is on the charts ‘“ can anyone post FYE’s current positions ‘“ album, deluxe, single? I can’t get the latest feed here at the office’ ¦purty please?

    FYE is number 10 on Itunes pop album charts, #30 on combined charts (deluxe) (non deluxe) is #159 on combined Album Charts and #32 on pop Album Charts. fye (single) is #62 on Combined single chart and #32 on pop single Chart, TFM is #72 on Pop single chart #223 on Combined single Chart

  • PattyP

    I was blessed with high honor students, sports-oriented children who play piano and guitar. I was involved and gave them productive outlets for their time. My 16 year old son all ready has aspirations of going to MIT, just like his cousin before him.

    As a parent you make up your own mind what you want your kids to be exposed to ‘” what is right for you might not be right for another. I’ve been really open with my kids, talk about everything they want to talk about when they have questions, I answer them. Talk about drugs and drinking and the perils of it. As parents, we all just hope for the best.

    Evanjane, wow, this sounds like where I want to be in 5 to 10 more years. My boys are 9 and almost 12 but so far fit the description in your first paragraph — great grades, sports, guitar/piano, etc. But I disagree — you were not “blessed” with them, you helped to mold them to be that way. They may have been blessed with intelligence or aptitude, but you molded that and channeled it productively. That is what I try to do, too. We hope for the best, but we also do our best to make it happen.

    As for the upcoming performance, I shelter my kids right now from this kind of stuff, so I will watch it on the Internet sometime after it actually airs. My kids do not watch network TV (including the news) right now because of their ages, and if they do happen to see or hear something that I deem to be above their maturity level, we discuss it if necessary. But as someone else mentioned, my kids fit that description of reacting with “oh, gross!” or “yuck” if something sexual in nature crosses their path, whether it’s gays or straights. They are simply too young for it to be their “thing” yet.

    I expect there will be much more provocative stuff on the AMAs than Adam’s performance, so we won’t be watching it because of the kids, and because I usually don’t enjoy that kind of stuff myself. But again, I do intend to watch at least Adam’s performance later … and I won’t be surprised if I find myself impressed with it.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ CindyM

    FYE The Album:

    Preorders:

    Amazon – #6
    Best Buy – #3
    Itunes – Deluxe #29 Overall, #10 Pop
    Itunes – Regular #156 Overall, #32 Pop

  • suebrody

    I came up with Take None…just saying. ;) lol (no iTunes email for me–more iTunes epic failage)

    Remember when Adam sang BTBW (of course you do, heh) and Simon said it was OTT and sort of like Rocky Horror Picture Show? Adam smiled and said I love that musical and Paula chimed in, I love that musical. Well…this a larger scale RHPS. :)

  • nnadinola

    “Have you seen this fan vid? Adam is a Bad Influence on me!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm6q0UkWuAQ

    I always loved this video…Adam at his sexiest all rolled in one

  • alwaysintrouble

    Exactly!!!! How in the world has this morphed into Adam condoning violence against women???

    The same way the song morphed into being about rape.

    If the artists wouldn’t create the images, the parents wouldn’t have to protect the children. That is part of the problem with society today, the onus all being put on the parents. Well how about some of the responsibility being put on the artist’s shoulders. If they didn’t perpetuate this crap, there would be nothing to protect.

    This has been covered but I just had to say WOW. it’s not the artists job to be the moral compass of the rest of the world. They create their art and people are free to appreciate it or not.

    I am one of those parents and I know everything you just wrote. However, you mentioned all these shows that are on CABLE, not network TV. And no, if I didn’t follow AI online, I would have no idea Adam would perform something of this nature on a music awards show based on his AI performances.

    If you didn’t follow AI online you wouldn’t know who Adam was to begin with and you probably wouldn’t look at him any differently than you would any other performer. Because he’s from AI, it seems he’s been placed in this strange box that he should act like he’s a disney performer so that some parent doesn’t have to explain to their kid why people are DANCING on television.

    You think parents should know to put parental controls on the AMAs’ ¦seriously? lol. Yeah, we know to nix rap, MTV, etc’ ¦’ ¦but the AMA’s? I could totally see something like this on the MTV awards, but this is ABC on Sunday night. Not one parent is gonna think of putting controls on this show.

    Do you think the AMAs is a show that FAMILIES will sit down and watch together? I don’t.

    As for what parents will or will not do I have a child and I’ve never had a problem explaining sex to her so if she watches this performance and thinks it about more than just dancing and she asks questions, I’ll gladly answer them for her.

  • glambert

    can people PLEASE be careful to not be confusing the AMA performance on Sunday with his MUSIC VIDEO, which he is also talking about in interviews??

    THIS is about the MUSIC VIDEO:
    “Access visited the singer on the set of his debut music video, which shares the same title as the album, and because it was his first video clip, Adam made sure it was attractive.

    ‘It goes into like all forms of sexy,’  Adam explained of the video. ‘You know how people sometimes take sexy to extremes? That’s how I’d probably put it’ ¦ A little light bondage, little light fetish kind of undertones, but I think the most important thing is we’re not trying to be gratuitous about it. We’re definitely trying to create high fashion moments, pictures using fetishes and bondage as more of a fashion piece as opposed to any sort of gratuitous act.‘ 

    bolding is my emphasis

  • Q3

    Recommend putting away all these broken crystal balls….because right now we are only seeing and hear planned PR leaks to build buzz for Adam’s preformance and the MV.

    And Adam’s performance will not be R rated. It is on network TV.

    1. The AMAs are on ABC TV — they will contain R rated content. End of discussion. ABC’s Broadcast Standards and Practices [BS&P] department will not let it happen. ABC TV is owned by The Walt Disney Company and is part of Disney-ABC Television Group. They have the strictest BS&P in the business.

    2. The show is live but on a delay — it anyone goes “offscript” they will go to a fill screen — like on the BEPs performance on American Idol last May.

    3. Expect at least some of the AMA performances to be more “adult” than Adam’s. I bet that these performances have push the boundaries more than Adam:

    - Janet Jackson’s 8 minute show opener opening medley of her greatest hits. [remember the SuperBowl anyone]

    - Lady Gaga probably “Bad Romance”: Link to MV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsthwTUTylQ

    - Shakira and Lil’ Wayne: 2009 AMA promo vid for Shakira [no idea how Lil' Wayne fits in] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aphcCgb98Pc

    - Rihanna – just listen to her new songs, nuf said.

    - Eminem. The Black Eyed Peas, Mary J. Blige, – guarenteed to push some boundaries, they always do.

    5. These performers may go farther than Adam: Green Day, Jennifer Lopez — who knows.

    6. Expect these performances to be PG rated: Jay-Z & Alicia Keys duet, Keith Urban, Whitney Houston, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Daughtry. That is a pretty short list of probable PG rated performances.

    So, my recommendation, hold off on judgments until after the performance.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Respect each other’s opinions. NO fingerwagging or lecturing. DO NOT question the motives of your fellow posters. Call a poster a troll, and you’ll end up in moderation.

  • KLI

    can people PLEASE be careful to not be confusing the AMA performance on Sunday with his MUSIC VIDEO, which he is also talking about in interviews??

    Not sure if you’re referring to my posting of the link to the interview where he discussed the music video here, but regardless, I think that this explanation probably applies to the AMA performance as well. I thought it was highly significant that he said the visuals aren’t supposed to be gratuitous–i.e. for shock value only. Instead, the visuals are meant to serve a larger purpose.

    Adam doesn’t shock–he leans on us. He is never gratuitous. If the song is about giving you every inch of his love, he’s gonna make sure you know EXACTLY what inches on his anatomy he’s referring to, but if the song is about the heartbreak of not feeling like you are fitting in, he’s gonna project plaintive/world weary Adam, and no crotch stroking is involved. If he started crotch grabbing or presenting bondage/fetish images in Mad World/Soaked/Broken Open it would be gratuitous, but he doesn’t go there.

    FYE is all about the dominant/submissive metaphor with respect to entertainment. Thus, this kind of visual imagery works for the presentation. It’s gonna be just fine. Can’t wait to see both the video and the performance.

  • luval

    Just curious….Has David Bowie made any sort of public statement about Adam?

  • alwaysintrouble

    Carrie Underwood,

    I don’t know Q3, Carrie looked like a prostitute on the CMAs last weekend. She was rubbing herself, shakin her ass and grinding her hips.

    and that was the best performance I’ve ever seen from her so I hope she does it again LOL

  • 4evrmomof4

    I am very surprised about the shock and indignation expressed here. The AMA’s, the VMA’s, etc are all about visual art.

    These shows are not something I would ever let my young children watch without supervision.

    This, just as if you would if you visited a museum, will have art and performances that are going to encourage debate and discussion. Art is supposed to do that, if it is serving its function in society.

    Some very important sculptures and paintings caused large controversies in their day.

    Musical performances and videos are those forms of art using today’s technology.

    Just as every piece of artwork is not to everyone’s taste, neither is every musical style or performance.

    It is supposed to be pleasurable and thought provoking, it is just entertainment, everyone….

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    BestAI
    11/20/2009 at 2:30 pm
    Ooh, since someone was kind enough to mention that ‘Take None‘  LOL is on the charts ‘“ can anyone post FYE’s current positions ‘“ album, deluxe, single? I can’t get the latest feed here at the office’ ¦purty please?

    Rowe, was that intentional?

    Yep – didn’t want to even utter the real name of the fake album. LOL

  • Q3

    can people PLEASE be careful to not be confusing the AMA performance on Sunday with his MUSIC VIDEO, which he is also talking about in interviews??

    Really excellent point. Because clearly the two things are getting mixed up.

  • mmb

    According to Billboard, Adam is closing the show at the AMAs….he is also doing New Year’s Rockin Eve and will one of the Most Fascinating People of 2009

    http://www.billboard.com/features/kris-allen-the-billboard-cover-q-a-1004044831.story#/features/adam-lambert-the-billboard-cover-story-video-1004044836.story

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    dhunken
    11/20/2009 at 2:33 pm
    FYE is number 10 on Itunes pop album charts, #30 on combined charts (deluxe) (non deluxe) is #159 on combined Album Charts and #32 on pop Album Charts. fye (single) is #62 on Combined single chart and #32 on pop single Chart, TFM is #72 on Pop single chart #223 on Combined single Chart

    and

    CindyM
    11/20/2009 at 2:42 pm
    FYE The Album:

    Preorders:

    Amazon ‘“ #6
    Best Buy ‘“ #3
    Itunes ‘“ Deluxe #29 Overall, #10 Pop
    Itunes ‘“ Regular #156 Overall, #32 Pop

    Thank you both!! Two. More. Days.

    WHEEEEE!

  • TXArchitect
  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    While ya’ll discuss the merits of artistic freedom of expression, can I just interject for a moment to say…..

    OMFG!!! My AO.com Collector’s Edition CD arrived in the mail today!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have it my grubby little paws right NOW and I feel corrupted already!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!

  • jms

    Just curious’ ¦.Has David Bowie made any sort of public statement about Adam?

    Not that I know of. Why would he? Because someone said to him “hey, there was a kid on American Idol that designed his act using your influences”? I’m sure there are lots of people that have taken pieces of Bowie’s music and presentation to use. Why would a kid that didn’t win a reality contest across the pond warrant his attention?

  • Jive

    Reading the comments on this topic has been very entertaining! Not everyone will like an artist and their music and performances, and that is just the reality.

    Whether a perfomrane is “too much” is up to interpretation…. My feelings are that this performance is going to be a little risque from an adult perspective, but not more than a dancing/musical performance to a child. Children have no real concept of sexuality – for my kids, seeing two people kiss is a big mushy thing, they have no clue what rubbing up against someone is or means…

    Heck, they watch dancing with the stars with me, and see plenty of booty and boobie shaking – they think it’s funny!

    I’m looking forward to Adam’s performance – I hope it does a lot to jump start his record sales and career.

  • suebrody

    Quick tweet:

    michcoll

    Oh shit y’all. Just got a copy of @adamlambert ‘s new CD For Your Entertainment. BRB, sobbing. Will write up a play by play in a bit! 1 minute ago from web

    Gotta get back to work. Talk laterz.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    According to Billboard, Adam is closing the show at the AMAs’ ¦.he is also doing New Year’s Rockin Eve and will one of the Most Fascinating People of 2009

    Closing the show…awesome! He had quit a few of his AI performances towards the end of the show..I always thought they did this to keep viewers watching the whole show?

    New Years Rockin Eve…! Glade I just turned down a job offer for New Year Eve..now I can watch it live!

  • mr

    mmb
    11/20/2009 at 3:03 pm
    According to Billboard, Adam is closing the show at the AMAs’ ¦.he is also doing New Year’s Rockin Eve and will one of the Most Fascinating People of 2009

    Ha! That’s hilarious! Be prepared for many non fans to whine about the “pimp spot” always going to Adam…

  • saga

    Aha, so this is what the comments about the “good seat” meant. Thought that was a bit odd…

  • Jive

    OMFG!!! My AO.com Collector’s Edition CD arrived in the mail today!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have it my grubby little paws right NOW and I feel corrupted already!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!

    Hahaha! I need to check for my CD! I need some corruption today.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    Kanadie Bonttell
    11/20/2009 at 3:11 pm
    According to Billboard, Adam is closing the show at the AMAs’ ¦.he is also doing New Year’s Rockin Eve and will one of the Most Fascinating People of 2009

    Closing the show’ ¦awesome! He had quit a few of his AI performances towards the end of the show..I always thought they did this to keep viewers watching the whole show?

    New Years Rockin Eve’ ¦! Glade I just turned down a job offer for New Year Eve..now I can watch it live!

    This is just the most amazing news of the day! And I’m happy I didn’t make New Year’s Eve plans yet – what an exciting time for Adam. :)

  • dhunken

    According to Billboard, Adam is closing the show at the AMAs’ ¦.he is also doing New Year’s Rockin Eve and will one of the Most Fascinating People of 2009

    Ok not to be Dougie downer but this may not be a good thing. If the show runs over his performance could actually be cut. The Produces or ABC may start to show his performance then run the credits and then cut to black. Just to remind everyone about the Mad World debacle….if you tape this extend the time on your timer. (In case they do show the whole performance)

  • TXArchitect

    mr: “Ha! That’s hilarious! Be prepared for many non fans to whine about the ‘pimp spot’  always going to Adam’ ¦”

    The pimp shot SHOULD always go to Adam…after all – he’s got the cane

  • 4evrmomof4

    WHOA, the Billboard article deserves its own thread, the information in this article are EPIC.

    A new artist, closing the show???!!! Barbara Walters interview- Fascinating people of 2009(of course) and New Year’s Rockin’ Eve (not surprised when Ryan Seacrest has tweeted out asking people for their request for performers for that show)

  • mmb

    OMFG!!! My AO.com Collector’s Edition CD arrived in the mail today!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have it my grubby little paws right NOW and I feel corrupted already!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!

    I hope mine is there when I get home!!! It’s my birthday! That would be a great present

  • Mary102

    So really it’s Adam’s interpretation and delivery of it that has to be original. While I’m uber confident in his delivery, I confess I’m not confident that his interpretation of it will stand out in the context of the AMAs.

    I will go out on a limb and say he probably won’t be the most controversial thing going on Sunday (and I think Eminem is also performing, so he’s always good for some requisite censorship), but I can guarantee that he will at the very least probably have the best damn vocals on Sunday night – maybe more than anything else I’m looking forward to that :-)

  • RocktheFort

    A new artist, closing the show???!!! Barbara Walters interview- Fascinating people of 2009(of course) and New Year’s Rockin’ Eve (not surprised when Ryan Seacrest has tweeted out asking people for their request for performers for that show)

    And people were wondering what RCA/19 was doing, not getting him any promo gigs LOL

  • AndreaH

    Two things I noticed from the pictures of the AMA rehearsal:

    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    The keyboardist/backup singer is definitely Lisa Harriton:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/e/7/1/9/2009_American_Music_92b6.jpg

    I’m really looking forward to seeing this performance Sunday night. :)

  • lucy

    BestAI
    11/20/2009 at 2:30 pm
    Ooh, since someone was kind enough to mention that ‘Take None’  LOL is on the charts ‘“ can anyone post FYE’s current positions ‘“ album, deluxe, single? I can’t get the latest feed here at the office’ ¦purty please?

    Rowe, was that intentional?

    Yep ‘“ didn’t want to even utter the real name of the fake album. LOL

    How about: Fake One

  • alaadam

    Is all of this normal for AI?? Adam is really going to be visible!

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    And by this picture it tends to make me believe that he will start his performance(as strange as this is going to sound for a song like FYE) acapella! Yes…just him singing, video wall with his name on it opens to reveal dancers/band/set..it is going to be awesome!

    If you watch on that first AMA rehearsal video that was released, he holds a really high note for like 10 seconds from like :29 – :38 seconds in the video…I believe that is the part we are seeing in this picture. There is no video wall behind him then, but that is the part!

  • Mary102

    OMG – is he really closing the AMAs? I remember when we first joked about him getting the pimp spot, and we were like, nah, no way…OMFG if I just read that right.

  • Cindij

    Don’t know where to put this but I am jumping for joy My CD game in the mail this A.M (I received my email from AO on Wed and I live in LA)

  • Mary102

    Also excited about the New Year’s Eve show! I had a feeling he would get one of those (perfect showcase for his style, plus AI folks usually show up on those gigs). So cannot wait for all of this!

    And the cds coming! Woooottttt!!!!

  • dhunken

    How about: Fake One

    ROTFLMAO……I think we have a winner!

  • beehiway

    My inner cavegirl is chomping at the bit to see this performance :)

  • LindaT

    CindyM
    11/20/2009 at 2:42 pm
    FYE The Album:

    Preorders:

    Amazon ‘“ #6
    Best Buy ‘“ #3
    Itunes ‘“ Deluxe #29 Overall, #10 Pop
    Itunes ‘“ Regular #156 Overall, #32 Pop

    FYE the album is also at #8 on barnesandnoble.com. Not sure what % of music sales they represent, but thought I’d mention it.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    omg he’s closing it? OMA!!!!! seriously?

    damn,I hope my “master plan”(no pun intended) works and I can watch it live.if not you know I’ll be all over YouTube.

    I’m so excited for this album but busy as he’ll Sunday(I’ll be back in time for the ama’s though)! in other news I can fiannly text.yay!

    time until IT-

    2  days, 8  hours, 26  minutes and 48  seconds

    you read that right peoplezzzz!!!

    as soon as I get home on Sunday I’ll do another hour by hour countdown with no squeeing .on the headlines thread.( if that counts a spamming,then I won’t do it mj…)

    I looked or the puffy paint shirt I made for the concert but can’t find it.I have the strange feeling my parents burnt it(it was all about Adam)…..:( lol

    the ama rehearsal looks sicckk

    the description sounds really risqu .I hope Adam know how far to take it…

    I’ve had sleepwalker and red guitar stuck in my head all day.

    ok,I think I have to go to rl for a while.bye peeps..

  • Mary102

    Oh, and on the subject of the billboard.com article, interesting that they mention:

    “Whataya Want From Me” (written by Pink, Max Martin and Johan Shellbeck), will likely be the next single.

  • hfa

    I really hope that closing AMA’s is a good thing, well it is, isn’t it? I don’t know why I am all nervous about it. I was hoping second to last, so that he didn’t get cut off or anything. Do we know who is hosting the show?

    Barbara Walter’s “Most intriguing people” is such a dream come through for me, for Adam! Yay!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Wow! The promo machine is in high gear. Adam’s going to be everywhere for the next few months.

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    Does anyone have a list of who else has closed the AMAs? I want to be really excited about this. But I also need to be prepared that some folks might leave as soon as the last award is presented, which in no way is a reflection on Adam.

    ETA-hfa, I have the same concerns. But it’s ok either way. He is a rookie, and if closing the AMAs is where the rookies go, that’s ok too. I just don’t want them scrolling the credits during his act. But it is what it is. As a freshman, it’s just an honor to be apart of it.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    Don’t know where to put this but I am jumping for joy My CD game in the mail this A.M (I received my email from AO on Wed and I live in LA)

    huh? I thought it’s not released until the 23rd?

  • dhunken

    Anthrogeek OMFG!!! My AO.com Collector’s Edition CD arrived in the mail today!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have it my grubby little paws right NOW and I feel corrupted already!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!

    Cindij
    11/20/2009 at 3:32 pm

    Don’t know where to put this but I am jumping for joy My CD game in the mail this A.M (I received my email from AO on Wed and I live in LA)

    Ok Spill on the bonus tracks!!!!!

  • saga

    I really hope that closing AMA’s is a good thing, well it is, isn’t it?

    I am just going to mention Ricky Martins closing of the Grammys. Everyone remember that.

  • saga

    Ok Spill on the bonus tracks!!!!!

    Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    I am just going to mention Ricky Martins closing of the Grammys. Everyone remember that.

    Was that the famous “she bangs” performance?

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    happy bday mmb:)

    lucky anthrogeek!!! I’m jellus:)

    thank you Q3!!!

  • saga

    Was that the famous ‘she bangs’  performance?

    It was the performance with the gorgous belly dancer if that rings a bell. Same director for that performance as for Adams now.

  • Mary102

    I just don’t want them scrolling the credits during his act. But it is what it is. As a freshman, it’s just an honor to be apart of it.

    Oh, no – that would MAJORLY suck (plus I can’t see them spending all that money on it and having it wasted like that).

    Empire State of Mind closed the VMAs, and didn’t Jay-Z pay $250,000 to get that spot (which was considered a “prime spot” to get?) That was my impression, at least.

  • Cindij

    #13 is Broken Open
    #14 Time for Miracles

    I have to buy one as a gift – for the sales count does anyone know when I should buy it ?

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ CindyM

    Ok not to be Dougie downer but this may not be a good thing. If the show runs over his performance could actually be cut. The Produces or ABC may start to show his performance then run the credits and then cut to black. Just to remind everyone about the Mad World debacle’ ¦.if you tape this extend the time on your timer. (In case they do show the whole performance)

    I’ve never seen them do this on an awards show. I doubt they would do it now. More than likely, since it goes past prime time they will delay the late news like they do for all the other award shows. I can’t see any way that they’re going to cut the performance, not after all the hype they’ve given him. I just saw another commercial where only 10 of the performers were shown and Adam was one of those. I can’t wait!!!!

  • Cindij

    #11 Sleepwalker
    #12 Aftermath

    have listen on YouTube over and over and forgot what is suppose to be on the album and what is extra.

  • hfa

    Thanks, guys, for calming me down. I am going to tell myself to not worry and Adam will be remembered for his performance years to come :)

    So do we know who is hosting? Oh and I am so glad he will do the New year’s Eve Show, is that going to be in New York Time Square?

  • Mary102

    I can’t see any way that they’re going to cut the performance, not after all the hype they’ve given him. I just saw another commercial where only 10 of the performers were shown and Adam was one of those. I can’t wait!!!!

    Yeah, I’ve definitely never seen them cut away for any award show that ran over time – they ALL run over time, and the big awards are at the end, which is what everyone is waiting for, not to cut away to the local news.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Was that the famous ‘she bangs’  performance?

    No, it was “The Cup of Life” performance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIga_AgIJ24

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ CindyM

    Since they shipped the AO orders for a Monday delivery, even if they came earlier, they will be counted for the first week sales, correct???

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    Ok Spill on the bonus tracks!!!!!

    No bonus tracks, looks like standard CD we saw with the same liner notes we got a sneak peek of yesterday. Bonus tracks are online only, so assuming we d/l the last one on Monday.

    What IS a bonus, though, is the little hardbound photo book that came with it – size of a CD case, but doesn’t fit inside. Has more pics not leaked with the liner notes yesterday. Typing in grunts – must go look and listen now.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    Whoa, talk about seeing your name up in lights!!! Twice, even!

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ mgk

    He’s really closing the show? Wow, I’m freaking right the eff out!! Billboard better not be starting rumors here, but he has been the focus of the behind the scenes stuff, so it makes sense. Yay!!!

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ greeneyedlady

    Yeah, I’ve definitely never seen them cut away for any award show that ran over time ‘“ they ALL run over time, and the big awards are at the end, which is what everyone is waiting for, not to cut away to the local news.

    I was thinking that, too. I’m not familiar with the AMAs, but most award shows save the big awards till the very end, and don’t have a performance as the last thing on the schedule. If that’s the case here, then this placement is absolutely the best possible for Adam. TBH, I often just wander in and out of the room during the first part of the Oscars, until they get to the major awards near the end.

  • zzatrms

    Cindij
    11/20/2009 at 3:32 pm
    Don’t know where to put this but I am jumping for joy My CD game in the mail this A.M (I received my email from AO on Wed and I live in LA)

    OMG … I am green with ENVY.

  • dhunken

    Mary102
    11/20/2009 at 3:50 pm

    I can’t see any way that they’re going to cut the performance, not after all the hype they’ve given him. I just saw another commercial where only 10 of the performers were shown and Adam was one of those. I can’t wait!!!!

    Yeah, I’ve definitely never seen them cut away for any award show that ran over time ‘“ they ALL run over time, and the big awards are at the end, which is what everyone is waiting for, not to cut away to the local news.

    Oh thanks for making me feel better…..I was worried…Still I would extend recording time on VCR’s and DVD players..just to be safe!

  • Cindij

    sorry didn’t want to make anyone upset but I thought if you knew that I got mine then everyone else’s will be arriving shortly – just so happy I didn’t have to wait until Monday.
    I asked earlier if anyone knows when I should buy the CD as a gift so that it will count for 1st week sales

  • saga

    Posting this here too…

    There is no way they are cutting ANY performances. Artists invest a lot on these shows, so they must be ensured a spot.

    You don’t hire 20 dancers and then get cut. Just won’t happen.

  • dhunken

    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 3:54 pm

    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    Whoa, talk about seeing your name up in lights!!! Twice, even!

    This is when Adam’s name being associated with 2 works for me ;-)

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Since they shipped the AO orders for a Monday delivery, even if they came earlier, they will be counted for the first week sales, correct???

    Yes. The shipped orders were all “pre-sales.”

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    P.S. They won’t cut the show to go to local news. They never do.

  • k0ka

    hopefully they do not run out of time.

  • 4evrmomof4

    http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1188/149/

    If you scroll to the right on the web page and Adam is on the cover of their print mag -available for purchase for 12.00

  • Studio57

    I knew if I went out of town today something epic would happen. I think I should probably do it again on Monday, lol.

    I kind of had a feeling that Adam was going to be on NYRE. I remember when Ryan’s program director first tried to make up for the Roadblock he said to give him until the end of the year.

    I never in a million years imagined he would close the AMA’s or that BW would feature him in one of her specials. Wow. Just WOW.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    don’t worry cindij.I dobt think anyone’s really upset.maybe a little jellus.in happy for you:)

  • LeHommeAdam

    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    Whoa, talk about seeing your name up in lights!!! Twice, even!

    AAAAAUUUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • saga

    I never in a million years imagined he would close the AMA’s or that BW would feature him in one of her specials. Wow. Just WOW.

    Ditto. I am a bit blown away…

  • zzatrms

    If you read past the first page on the Billboard article ….

    Internationally, Corson says the label intends to break Lambert first in the United Kingdom and Japan. For his part, Lambert wants to tour in 2010-and tour big. “I want dancers, I want costumes, I want video screens,” he says. “I want to put on a show that’s really theatrical and fun and grand.”

  • Q3

    So do we know who is hosting? Oh and I am so glad he will do the New year’s Eve Show, is that going to be in New York Time Square?

    Hosted by Ryan Seacrest and DIck Clark

  • 4evrmomof4

    NYRE usually is simulcast in LA and NY and sometimes UK as well–

    Here’s hoping he comes to NY so I can try to go…

  • zzatrms

    And we were worried they weren’t doing much promo for Adam? :)

  • Cindij

    thanks Luv u r such a great person love to read your posts – I mostly lurk and very seldom post

  • Q3

    Since they shipped the AO orders for a Monday delivery, even if they came earlier, they will be counted for the first week sales, correct???

    Short answer is YES!

    Explanation: Retailers can only control when they ship and scheduled delivery date. Most of these orders are being delivered by the USPS and they deliver fast. The SoundScan transaction specs are based on planned delivery, not actually delivery for shipped CD’s.

    Note: I order mine in the first hour and it just shipped today — URGH!!

  • mandalay

    Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but the final band member has been confirmed.

    http://hipstersunited.com/blog/archives/2009/11/lisa-harriton-for-your-entertainment.html

    She (Lisa Harriton) will play keys in the band backing American Idol season eight runner-up Adam Lambert (at right, with guitarist Monte Pittman) on Sunday night at the American Music Awards. Yes, she passed an audition with Lambert himself to land the spot. No, I don’t imagine this job will appear on her jazz rsum.

  • Cindij

    Oh No if they send Adam oversea’s does that mean we have to wait a year before seeing him live again here in the states (LA especially)

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    I mostly lurk and very seldom post

    post more! it’s fun…

    I was lurking since march then started posting in august….

    :D

    dammit.I gotta go.bye peeps.

    cannot believe everything that’s happening.wow.

  • Q3

    zzatrms
    11/20/2009 at 4:20 pm
    And we were worried they weren’t doing much promo for Adam?

    I was never worried about lack of Adam promo — and there is more of the Adam Lambert Promotional Tour to be announced. They just started releasing info.

    Gonna be a wild few weeks!

  • lucy

    I never in a million years imagined he would close the AMA’s or that BW would feature him in one of her specials. Wow. Just WOW.

    Honestly, I’ve been expecting he’d get Baba. Not surprised by that at all, really. She was probably salivating to get him the minute she saw the gay boy sing Ring of Fire.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    Note: I order mine in the first hour and it just shipped today ‘” URGH!!

    at least you got it today :)
    lucky

    I wasn’t “allowed” to get the collector’s edition.my mom didn’t want a hard copy because she didn’t want to see the freaky (to her) album cover* eyeroll*.I pre-ordered it on iTunes so I have to wait until Monday..,..

  • revcat

    Here’s hoping he comes to NY so I can try to go’ ¦

    Referring to the New Years Eve show with Dick Clark & Ryan Seacrest, it’s in Times Square. Arrive early and DRESS WARM!

  • dhunken

    4evrmomof4
    11/20/2009 at 4:08 pm

    http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1188/149/

    If you scroll to the right on the web page and Adam is on the cover of their print mag -available for purchase for 12.00

    Please tell me there is no letter from the Editor because Adam’s publicist said that he did not want him to appear too rock rock! ;-)

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    elle_com Watch @mrjoezee style American Idol’s Allison Iraheta, Kris Allen, and Adam Lambert http://ow.ly/E8i3 2 minutes ago

    note-why do I always say I leave but I don’t?! this site is addicting…

  • Squirrely

    Please tell me there is no letter from the Editor because Adam’s publicist said that did not want him to be to rock rock!

    LMAO!!!

  • 4evrmomof4

    Received my email yesterday, here’s hoping I can get it by Saturday so I can at least have some weekend tome listening to it!!!!

    SQUEEEEE love the the fact that his team recognizes he is such a visual artist, which means LOTS of visual promotion appearances….

  • Cindij

    Gotta go Have fun everyone Sunday will be epic love this Adam rollercoaster (just don’t want to wait a year to see him live in the states)

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    Please tell me there is no letter from the Editor because Adam’s publicist said that did not want him to be to rock rock!

    lol

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ CindyM

    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 3:54 pm
    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    that’s the exact same font and everything on the album cover, right?? Different color though… blue to green

  • dhunken

    I was never worried about lack of Adam promo ‘” and there is more of the Adam Lambert Promotional Tour to be announced. They just started releasing info.

    Gonna be a wild few weeks!

    Me either and now the STORM REALLY BEGINS!!!

    PS….I guess RCA did have a different promo roll out planned then what was “the Norm”….Because Adam is not the Norm (yeah yeah I know a little OTT stanning )

  • hfa

    So do we know who is hosting? Oh and I am so glad he will do the New year’s Eve Show, is that going to be in New York Time Square?

    Hosted by Ryan Seacrest and DIck Clark

    Oh, thanks, but I meant the AMA’s. Who is hosting the AMA’s. We must have known by now, right? I must have zoned out or something, somehow can’t remember?

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ anthrogeek

    CindyM
    11/20/2009 at 4:31 pm
    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 3:54 pm
    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    that’s the exact same font and everything on the album cover, right?? Different color though’ ¦ blue to green

    Yes, it is the same font, indeed! Also, it could be flashing multiple colors, and maybe just happened to be at green at the moment this photo was taken…. more to look forward to!

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    is not the Norm (yeah yeah I know a little OTT stanning )

    don’t worry everyone needs to Stan sometimes:)

    lol

    my frien rachael keeps a picture of tome Felton(Draco malfoy) on her binder.it’s surrounded by hearts and says”I love this guy..even if he is evil”.lol.she kisses it before class.kinda funny,kinda creepy…

  • sr4mjc

    WOW, this is so awesome!

  • jms

    Oh, thanks, but I meant the AMA’s. Who is hosting the AMA’s

    The AMAs have no host this year.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    sorry should have left out the Rachael part.tmi.especially her name.but rachel’s fairly common so..whatever… can’t edit..

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    sr4mjc
    11/20/2009 at 4:35 pm
    WOW, this is so awesome!

    ikr

  • hfa

    The AMAs have no host this year.

    Really? Was that normal?

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ adamaloha

    CindyM
    11/20/2009 at 4:31 pm
    anthrogeek
    11/20/2009 at 3:54 pm
    They are really branding the name Adam Lambert:
    http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/6/5/6/2009_American_Music_bb2f.jpg

    that’s the exact same font and everything on the album cover, right?? Different color though’ ¦ blue to green

    I think I’m one of the few in the entire universe who actually LIKED that font on FYE. I thought it looked perfectly showbizzy and neither butch nor fem. Brought to mind neon signs and flash.

  • jms

    Really? Was that normal?

    Nope. It’s not normal at all. The producer(?) in all the vids that they did about it talked about how the were doing it on a time line and it was going to flow from act to presentation to act.

  • alaadam

    new adam thread

  • KLI

    I liked the font too! I think it looks great. The album cover isn’t my out and out favorite for him (although I get what he’s trying to do), but I think the cover will work conceptually once I have the whole thing and can see all the pictures. The font rocks, though. It’s like a neon flashing font!!

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ CindyM

    adamaloha
    11/20/2009 at 4:43 pm

    I think I’m one of the few in the entire universe who actually LIKED that font on FYE. I thought it looked perfectly showbizzy and neither butch nor fem. Brought to mind neon signs and flash.

    I’m one of the few too. I was taken aback first by the album cover, it was unexpected and I loved it! Loved the “For Your Entertainment” font because it reminded me of Prince’s Purple Rain font.

  • sidewalkstory

    OMG, that Billboard article! The Barbara Walters special was something that I dreamed of for Adam since the finale of AI.

    New Years Eve with Ryan. Does that mean Times Sq? *dies*.

    Taking sofa requests from now! I have someone coming in for Letterman. Two people for GMA (one is taking the floor). I love having company. In the early 70′s my place was the hang-out place. I used to have to step over bodies on Sun morn (afternoon) to get to the bathroom.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    lucky sidewalkstory.have fun.:)

    adamaloha i flive it:)

  • JazzRocks

    I remember thinking after the show ended that I could get back to RL. Then came the tour. After the tour ended I thought “RL NOW?”. Nope not yet. Ok – how about after the album drops? Don’t think so. So now til the end of the year it’s looks like Adam pretty much all the time. And in the new year comes the big freaking TOUR!

    Exciting times!

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com rowenaaine

    4evrmomof4
    11/20/2009 at 4:08 pm
    http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1188/149/

    If you scroll to the right on the web page and Adam is on the cover of their print mag -available for purchase for 12.00

    Actually, that’s their “Adam Lambert Fans” magazine – where they profile the most OTT peeps that follow Adam. The mag is not about Adam per se, though I’m sure there will be pics of him in it.

  • sidewalkstory

    lucky sidewalkstory.have fun.:)

    thank you luv

  • suebrody

    So excited for Adam!!!

  • francegf

    Cindij – i live in LA too and I got my CD, too!!!!! jumped and flailed before my friend reminded me that I have a sore back (fell down the stairs last night). i hope everyone gets their CDs soon!!!

  • saga
  • Mary102

    note-why do I always say I leave but I don’t?! this site is addicting’ ¦

    Lol – I know – this site is more family than my family :-) Especially on Friday – I’ve noticed Friday is always the most flail worthy day, then everything gets kinda depressing and crazy on Monday-Wednesday, to return to flail mode on Friday.

  • tootheatrical

    ‘Late on the dragging-the-girl-across-the-floor gate, but uh, Apache Dance anyone? You know, the French one that’s like 100 years old and has been featured in countless musicals, Bugs Bunny cartoons, and I Love Lucy???

  • ebkcookie

    Tacoma WA (3:16 PM) postal service just delivered FYE – Whooohooo!! no more streaming. Photo book is cool. Have seen several of the photos from various posts. One of them is current wallpaper on Adam’s twitter. On inside cover: “I was born with gilitter on my face. My baby clothes were made of leather and lace..” Excuse me while I go indulge my fantasies.

  • molls

    ebkcookie:

    Tacoma WA (3:16 PM) postal service just delivered FYE ‘“ Whooohooo!!

    YAY! Another ‘Tacoman’ in the house! Just got mine several hours ago too!!

    I am sooo glad I get to rip this bad boy to my ipod for the weekend!

    Did you go to the concert at the Dome this summer?

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    Just got my FYE Deluxe! :) Off to give it a listen! (As though I’ve never heard the songs. A million times. Heh.)

  • ebkcookie

    Molls:
    Yes, did the TDome. Kicking myself for missing Portland and Vancouver. Still searching for potential tour dates/locations. Need to get my travel plans, cash reserves and leave time in order so I can go to at least a few shows.

  • molls

    ebkcookie:
    Sounds like we’re on the same wavelength! And if Adam does go to Portland and Vancouver, I’m going to do everything I can to go to all! That’s the nice thing about living in the Seattle-area: the Portland-Seattle-Vancouver corridor gives us great concerts only a couple hours away.
    Adam’s music sounds AWESOME on the CD – so much better than the streaming, and I thought that was great! “Fever” is kicking my ass right now; it’s addictive!
    Now just gearing up for AMAs on Sunday night! 8)

  • martha

    It’s almost like waiting for Santa when I was a child-just counting the days till Adam’s performance on AMA. It will be nice to see the other Idols too, but Im crazy wild about Adam. His CD arrived. It is magnificant.

  • iluvai

    Does any one know if Adam or Kris will be guests at the Macy’s Thanksgiving day parade??? MJ, can you post a list of attendees???

  • Sherena

    excited

  • Lynneville

    It’s here!!!! It’s here!!!!! Oh so pretty!!! Sounds so goooood!!!!!
    Yay! Yay! Yay!