Adam Lambert: ‘For Your Entertainment’ Video Behind the Scenes

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/11/19/adam-lambert-out-magazine-exclusive-response/

Adam in a lengthy interview in EW.. on the Out controversy.

LOVE IT !!!!!! That’s our Adam for ya !!!!!

All the body grazing reminded me of Gaga’s “Poker Face” and Britney’s “Slave 4 U”, and all the smoky black reminded me of Madonna’s “Human Nature”. Definitely a very Adam video.

Does anyone know when the video is debuting?

LOVE IT !!!!!! That’s our Adam for ya !!!!!

I had 10 second teaser clips. lol I can’t wait to see the whole thing!!

I don’t neccesarily agree with his views on fame but ok.the video looks SICKKKKKKK!!!! but I have a feeling I’ll be showing my friends the tfm one instead heh.

so beast…

Yes its a “very Adam” type video!! Not my thing but great for those that like this style !!
Oh one thing that is different about Adam from Britney & Madonna- I am sure he would not “lipsync in a live performance “- don’t know about Lady Gaga- !!

it all looks so FUN!!!!!

They both look so f’n good!!!! He is going to be the male Gaga

Oh one thing that is different about Adam from Britney & Madonna- I am sure he would not ‘lipsync in a live performance ‘- don’t know about Lady Gaga- !!

Gaga sings, only not very well when she dances too much

Since this is his first performance and video of his own music, I can’t think of anything more appropriate than this line from FYE:

“So hot out the box..”

Can’t wait to see this. So excited. So excited to see him on the GMA’s next Weds!

Wow. Just wow. (Except the hair. Just meh for me.)

THAT VIDEO. Has any Idol EVER had a video like that?! (I’m gonna have to go with no on that.)

MUST SEE THIS VIDEO STAT. D’ya think VH-1 will play it a lot? (Not that they play videos a lot.)

Oh, and I really liked that interview with Whitney on EW.com. He is so right; Hincklin totally crossed the line. It wasn’t about mgmt, it was about *him* (Adam). Can’t wait to read the more fun part tomorrow.

It’s so fun to see new Adam stuff. I don’t want S9 of Idol to start.

P.S. No lip synching for Adam. We want to hear him sing. LIVE. Lord, wait till GMA and his *band*!!!

perfect interview Adam.

It’s so fun to see new Adam stuff. I don’t want S9 of Idol to start.

me either.so I’m not thinking about it…

SuBo. ICKY.

What boys are on the block? ROTFL

This is what I expected and hoped for in the FYE vid. Lots of leather and sex. It fits the song and I love it. Also can’t wait to see how this conception translates to something that can be played out on the AMA stage. Should be really interesting to compare.

I think I’ll watch the AMA on YouTube.I’ll try to watch live,but looking at the costumes and the mv Idk if I can(if my dad’s home).

Ok thats it I need to see the Ama’s like right now-from his words..”bondage, light fetishes, extreme sexy………..whoa”.

How is everyone viewing this? I don’t know if it is my McAfee, but, nothing is coming up for a link on the two videos. Help if anyone has any suggestions.

It all looks great. Only problem is– I don’t like the song! that’s sad because I liked much more most of the songs in the album. Wish he had chosen Music again or Broken Open as his debut.

We know that Janet Jackson is going to open the AMA’s, but do we know which order is Adam’s? I hope it’s going to be near the end, so that people can remember him and buy his album the next day.

2009 American Music Awards – Rehearsals

OMG I am so excited for this video! I can’t think of a guy with that kind of video right now…. and I’m a little worried about the AMAs being parent friendly haha my rents luv adam though

cayman Try right click on the vid and use the ‘watch on YouTube’ selection. Maybe that will work better. Just a suggestion, don’t know if it will help.

Oh one thing that is different about Adam from Britney & Madonna- I am sure he would not ‘lipsync in a live performance ‘- don’t know about Lady Gaga- !!

Madonna doesn’t lip-synch! That’s an unfair charge that’s been leveled against her for years. And in the live performances that I’ve seen, GaGa doesn’t either. There was a dreaded moment in that rehearsal footage where Adam was lip-synching, but that’s just because they have to play the recording back when the musicians aren’t there. I hope. Nah, I’m confident every note of FYE on the AMA’s will be sung live.

Idol? We’re not in Kansas anymore. I love it!

Do I hear a storm brewing?

I love his views on fame. Keep on staying grounded bb. And the video looks hot.

First (unofficial) single:
TfM
World!Weary and Fierce/Intense!Adam

First official single:
FYE
Sexy!Adam

Next single (probably): WWFM
Next video: Much different. (I don’t know Pink’s slow videos, but I expect it to be like that.)

End result: Adam can pull ‘em all off.

Yeah, I don’t think Gaga lip syncs. Britney probably has to because her dances are pretty intricate and she’s an amazing dancer. It’s part of her act – being able to hit dance moves.

I think this video will look very cool.

BradBesseyET Adam Lambert fans…because of your interest…I’m having my team at http://www.etonline.com post a little Adam AMA action by 9:30PM EST. Love you
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How many songs will have vids? anyone know?

adBesseyET Adam Lambert fans’ ¦because of your interest’ ¦I’m having my team at http://www.etonline.com post a little Adam AMA action by 9:30PM EST. Love you
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When? TONIGHT???

*rushing home*

I think Adam will probably be on later in the show, they usually put the more “adult” performances towards the end

How many songs will have vids? anyone know?

Cook and Archie each got two official singles with videos, so that’s all we should expect to get from Adam. If the first two are successful though, we could possibly get a third or fourth. I’m so excited for the videos, however many we get!

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TommyJoeRatliffOk I’m a big dumdum with this twitter thing so ill do it right @monterrfic ! http://myloc.me/1B2Am about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

lol

I could help him if he needs assistance.

dab1234 ..thank you for the suggestion, when I right click it doesn’t give me the option to view on youtube, I will have to wait for it to be posted to youtube to watch. I’m sure it will be there soon, it sounds awesome. penzap thank you for the photos, Adam is such a Fantasy Man, he is so EVERYTHING HOT AND BEAUTIFUAL!!

terps
11/19/2009 at 8:38 pm
I think Adam will probably be on later in the show, they usually put the more ‘adult’  performances towards the end

what time are the ama’s and what channel?

I’m going to bed/rl.good night guys.can’t wait to see AMA stuff tomorrow..

Those photos of rehersals look hot – add costumes and will be on fire. Am so looking forward to this performance. It is so about time a guy performer embraced their inner diva.

penzap
11/19/2009 at 8:28 pm

2009 American Music Awards ‘“ Rehearsals

wow….I love Sunday!!!

Sherena I will take what I can get, too. BUT I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha my rents luv adam though

LUCKY!!!
I’m jellus…

Tweets from Exec Producer at Entertainment Tonight!

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Reply Retweet @qtpiekimber I can’t give up too much’ ¦but’ ¦dancers, leather, pyro’ ¦JT move over ADAM’s REALLY bringing sexy back.
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BTW, O/T, but Jim thinks WWFM is going to be HUGE. I agree, but it wouldn’t go with the AMAs. I am sure it will be sung on GMA, however. And he promises a kick!ass interview with Adam.

THE STORM IS ON THE HORIZON.

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Well there goes my happy place after watching the initial rehearsal video. Crap. That’s just too much.

Ok, do we just watch the etonline website for something? Also, where are the pics of the rehearsal that someone was talking about. Is there something more that the video? I get confused sometimes… LOL

My spies say his AMA performance is beyond risque’ ¦men on leashes’ ¦the whole 9 yards. Yikes.

ruh roh.sigh,I guess in watching it on YouTube:(

unless I can come up with a complicated plan to get my dad to leave the house…

what time are the AMA ‘s

http://adam-lambert.org/adam-is-in-the-house/

Adam on his way to the Nokia for AMA rehearsals. Whassup with the fugly sunglasses?

dab1234, go back a page look for penzap, attached are Getty Images of the rehearsal.

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Well there goes my happy place after watching the initial rehearsal video. Crap. That’s just too much.

Hrrm. That’s not what the rehearsal looked like, just the video…

Color me confused as well…

luv, no way your dad is gonna let you watch the AMAs. You’re gonna have to catch it the next day, I have a feeling…you KNOW it will be all over YT the 2nd after it’s aired.

Seriously!!! This is going to be fun

men on leashes

Just how I always pictured “Men” ROTFL
Sorry guy’s I don’t really mean it..

After watching the MV clip and behind-the-scene rehearsal, I finally come to believe and relief that Adam and team can pull it off.

luv, no way your dad is gonna let you watch the AMAs. You’re gonna have to catch it the next day, I have a feeling’ ¦you KNOW it will be all over YT the 2nd after it’s aired.

sob. D:

any elaborate scheme ideas to make him leave? a trip to the bank? not very elaborate,but it’ll work…I hope…no I have no ideas…YouTube it is

D: D: D:

clearone

Well there goes my happy place after watching the initial rehearsal video. Crap. That’s just too much.

hmmmmmm how to make this better ummm just picture everyone with cloths on.. and the men are really puppies.

beyond risque’ ¦men on leashes’ ¦the whole 9 yards

the mind boggles as to what yards could be beyond men on leashes. But I will say it makes a change to have the boys be the sex toys – it’s usually the girls in that role. Nothing like a man on a leash to bring out the inner diva I say. LMAO. I am LOVING this.

After watching the MV clip and behind-the-scene rehearsal, I finally come to believe and relief that Adam and team can pull it off.

I am still nervous and worried. It’s a big project and everything is new…

Adam is going to kick some ass Sunday. Can’t wait! It’s about time for a sexy male pop star. Us women have waited long enough!

My spies say his AMA performance is beyond risque’ ¦men on leashes’ ¦the whole 9 yards.

Don’t get me wrong. Love Adam is all his “love of flaming headress” glory. I can handle anything, but will he go THIS far so quickly “out the box” and maybe alienate some fans that might otherwise have liked him..he seems conscientious of this in some interviews?

I haven’t watched the rehearsal footage. Don’t want to spoil it.

Can someone give me a quick hint. Did he mention bondage?

Am all ears!!!

hmmmmmm how to make this better ummm just picture everyone with cloths on.. and the men are really puppies.

ROFLMAO yep that’ll do it.

Men on leashes … hmmm. Doesn’t sound bad unless Adam is being pulled around by them while on a chariot and Adam whips them. Then um no… no. Lord where’d my imagination take me lol.

cayman Thanks, don’t know how I missed the pics…
As for the vid being too much, well it’s about time. Adam has pushed the boundaries ever since he started on AI and now he is pushing in the big leagues. I love it. He WILL pull this off and it will be great. saga, please try not to worry. Has Adam ever let you down?

I don’t see any leashes in those pictures…? He sounds AMAZING in that rehearsal clip. So excited to see all this come together Sunday night!

I am just dying here. Srsly. He can pull this off. HE can do it. Others, no, not so much. Adam? YES INDEEDY. I’m not skeered.

BTW, lol at Simon’s comments about RoF (“indulgent rubbish”). Seems pretty tame in comparison to, well, you know, EVERYTHING now.

laterz (still at work, gah)

Good Lord!!! this is probably gonna be too hot for some people to handle but im loving every second of this! will DEFINITELY get people to talking the next day and i hope the vid isnt TOO hot that it wont be played on television. cannot wait!! WOOOO!!

Imagine, just a short while ago the main topic of conversation here was his jewelry (c*ck ring). Pretty tame compared to this vid. LOL

Does adam get a pass if he says 19 told me to do this.I cant believe 19 or rca didn’t stop all the OTT he is a guy not gaga or katy perry.I really don’t get it.

Someone needs to tell the designer about steampunk. It’s not a new concept. Steampunk with rhinestones. Also been done.

The video looks like Disney does Marilyn Manson.

Yeah, not pulling any more on punches on this guy.

the way people look at American Idol will never be the same again! sooo super excited for this crazy journey adam is taking us on!

He’s talented. He’s gonna have a great career. BUT
Fetish stuff? Bondage stuff? Think I’ll pass

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/11/adam-lambert-kicks-off-rehearsals-for-the-american-music-awards.html

Adam Lambert kicks off rehearsals for American Music Awards

thank you penzap..
those pix remind me of how exciting Adam’s summer tour performances were….but it’s been awhile and we need an Adam fix soon! So don’t be skerd anyone..he is definitely in command on stage!

Does adam get a pass if he says 19 told me to do this.I cant believe 19 or rca didn’t stop all the OTT he is a guy not gaga or katy perry.I really don’t get it.

I don’t get it either. He doesn’t need all this crap….and it is crap.

Clearone,

Well there goes my happy place after watching the initial rehearsal video. Crap. That’s just too much.

Don’t despair about leashes. It is just an unsubstantiated Tweet.

I have to say that I really doubt it for the AMAs. It is live on primetime on a family friend network, not Cable.

Sure, Adam pushes the envelope, but has some business acumen too. I’d like to think that he sees the BIG picture. Men on leashes right out the box? Won’t translate to sales. It might make some people (not me) squeamish and leery and they WILL then go buy the other guy’s album.

I could be dead wrong, of course, but I just don’t see it. (Not that I would mind, myself!!!)

i hope the vid isnt TOO hot that it wont be played on television.

For reals. LOL. Im here for your entertainment…beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Please Stand by.

melirose89
11/19/2009 at 9:11 pm
the way people look at American Idol will never be the same again!

I literally cracked up when I read this. What an understatement!!

Those who love Adam will be looking in vain for someone else to give them the same excitement and the ones who don’t will be watching in fear of being “shocked” again.

clearone
11/19/2009 at 9:15 pm
Does adam get a pass if he says 19 told me to do this.I cant believe 19 or rca didn’t stop all the OTT he is a guy not gaga or katy perry.I really don’t get it.

I don’t get it either. He doesn’t need all this crap’ ¦.and it is crap.

Has the best vocals iv herd in a long time.Why waste it.

The video looks like Disney does Marilyn Manson…Yeah, not pulling any more on punches on this guy.

You don’t like Adam, we get it. And that’s fine, but Disney does Marilyn Manson? That doesn’t make sense so I won’t comment on it. I notice you read every single tidbit about a guy you hate. That’s odd.

Personally I think I’m gonna love Adam’s AMA performance but his music video? Not sure, might be a bit much for me but will reserve my final judgement until I see it. Whether I like it or not I will remain a fan and can’t wait to get his CD on my iPod.

Men on leashes ‘ ¦ hmmm. Doesn’t sound bad unless Adam is being pulled around by them while on a chariot and Adam whips them. Then um no’ ¦ no. Lord where’d my imagination take me lol.

ahaha rockvixen I like the way your mind works. That would be hot… but I don’t think he’d risk going that far quite yet. But just a few leashes, minus the chariot? I could see that. So much suspense…

From the LA Times article:

For about five minutes, this reporter was allowed to write notes from a cushy blue chair in the audience during Lambert’s rehearsal, watching as dancers sashayed across the floor in spangly harem pants, leotards with torn tights and in one particular eye-catching costume, leather pants topped off with a few leather suspender-straps and silvery chains on an otherwise bare-chested male dancer

Sounds like this is all the press saw. Maybe the last outfit was the one interpreted as “leashes”? The LA Times reporter certainly didn’t use that phrase and since sensationalism seems to be the norm, you think he would have.

I’m sure it will be on a delay, just hope its not a 4 minute delay!!!

“hmmmmmm how to make this better ummm just picture everyone with cloths on.. and the men are really puppies. ”

GREAT! then all I have to do is walk toward the back door and yell “GET YOUR LEASH!” and men will appear, drooling and wagging, and come to an expectant “sit” at my feet, thrilled beyond belief, awaiting my next move. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Check it…CRAZZZZZY in a really great way!

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=adam%20lambert&assetType=image&ep=3

Has the best vocals iv herd in a long time.Why waste it.

I think this is the best way for him to find his niche of success. If he just goes straight up classic rock or even pop rock without embellishments and ~scandal, then less people will listen to him and his voice will be wasted. This is risky but it’s the best way to go. Plus it’s the kind of thing he likes, and he’ll perform better if he’s having fun. If the day ever comes that he’s lip syncing his shows though, I’ll agree with you.

I don’t see anyone with leashes in those pics… but then they did kick out the reporters for a bit.

This is Adam. He is always true to himself.

Wow. He really IS trying to become the male Britney Spears. I wonder if he’ll alienate any of the casual Idol fans who thought he was a “rock god”.

I’m not a fan of these kinds of group-sex-orgy type videos, and all the black clothes etc., not my thing, but with this particular video, I’m not crazy about the way Adam’s dressed and I’m confused by his role in the video and what his character is doing. Why is he wearing such a nazi-type outfit that makes him look kind of cruel and mean? Is he like the master of all these other people? If he’s being a “master” to me it’s not a sexy master, somehow. Why is he all covered up like that? I’m just not liking the leather trenchcoat effect. But I’m definitely curious to see the video at least once, and the AMA performance.

I’ve got to say, I find this kind of video less offensive than most rap videos which I think are appalling with women totally degrading themselves as nothing but gyrating sex objects, and about thugs and jewelry and shallow values like that. But I think leashes and collars, if there are any in the video, or in other similar videos, are degrading and going too far. But I’m not convinced that is in this video anyway.

TXArchitect
11/19/2009 at 9:23 pm
‘hmmmmmm how to make this better ummm just picture everyone with cloths on.. and the men are really puppies. ‘ 

GREAT! then all I have to do is walk toward the back door and yell ‘GET YOUR LEASH!’  and men will appear, drooling and wagging, and come to an expectant ‘sit’  at my feet, thrilled beyond belief, awaiting my next move. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Yeahhhhh and maybe he will fetch your socks.. snicker..

I am sure its all just another rumor!!! I am loving the backstage pass to the making of the vid.. WOHOOOOOO

Kanadie- those pics are great! I am sooo excited! I don’t know why this one made me crack up though- the guy in the corner with the whit hat is kind of creepin….

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/93235149/Getty-Images-Entertainment

This is a performance. Is there shock effect? of course… That’s what I love about it. He is pushing, but he needs to push to make a mark here. It is a tough business. The AMA performance will be toned down, I am sure.

How many David Bowie shirts does the boy have?? I think this one is now my favorite, it has overtaken the Upright Cabaret New Year’s Eve one.

You don’t like Adam, we get it. And it’s fine.

Right, ignore the haters. If he isn’t the most remembered or shocking performance of the night will it be GaGa’s fault for upstaging him, or hater’s fault for not licking his ten years out of style boots?

People here are going on about how “hot” this is. They should watch some Madonna performances from the 90s, or Britney and the snake and the VMAs, or any number of other performances and videos from a decade or more ago that would make you all blush.

It’s not that deep, right? It’s also not that shocking.

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

OMG he is so exciting. I can hardly wait.

Don’t get me wrong. Love Adam is all his ‘love of flaming headress’  glory. I can handle anything, but will he go THIS far so quickly ‘out the box’  and maybe alienate some fans that might otherwise have liked him..he seems conscientious of this in some interviews?

It’s a show.

It is all about spectacle and strong imagery and giving you something you don’t see every day. It’s not meant to be taken as a personal statement of philosophy.

It will work fine because of the stage on which it is presented.
It will serve its purpose which is to get people outside the “Idol Bubble” talking the same way we all have been for months. This performance will be talked about at every water cooler and workplace in the country and be dissed on many fronts and praised on others. Parents will whisper to other parents about how damaging it is to the children then go home and whisper to their own spouses how much it turned them on.

All who come and talk about how it is “just too much” are actually proving the point by doing so- people won’t be able to stop talking about it. It will be the topic of the week everywhere.

In other words, successful.

Oma I think I might just have a game plan .so,I was bsing all thru dinner about the weekend schedule and shit,so I said “i was sondering when I shoul do my homework because I wanna watch the ama’s”. so he said (after I told him the ama’s were all top 40(bs) which he hates and pressured him into working) that since he doesn’t want to hear lady gaga blasting maybe on Sunday night if he works downstairs then I can watch the ama’s . or he said he would go to his office.this probably won’t happen though(knowing my dad) but at least now I have like a 1% chance of seeing the ama’s live.

oy vey.so Adam though…

CindyM LOL I know what you mean about the Bowie shirts. How many does he have, anyway? I do like this one though.

People here are going on about how ‘hot’  this is. They should watch some Madonna performances from the 90s, or Britney and the snake and the VMAs, or any number of other performances and videos from a decade or more ago that would make you all blush.

I dont know how it will go because I didnt watch the mv or the AMAs and neither did any of us, but one thing I know: adam can sing circles on Britney and Madonna. So yeah, if you can have both the performance AND the vocals, why not? He also sings better than Gaga, by the way. This, no gaga performance, as eccentric as it may be, can take from him.

Any adam fan who paid a bit of attention to him knows it was his dream to do something like this. I am happy he is living his dream.

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

Sorry — this is not likely — people may love Adam, they may hate Adam but they will not forget him. Not happening.

Also, since he has THE best people in the biz working on directing his Promo Tour, it will be memorable and “jaw-dropping” good. That is what they are getting paid the big bucks for.

I do not believe that Sony/19 have ever put together a team like this for any Idol debut. And it’s for the runner-up. Perhaps #2 is the new winning.

If he isn’t the most remembered or shocking performance of the night will it be GaGa’s fault for upstaging him, or hater’s fault for not licking his ten years out of style boots?

Your logic continues to escape me. I don’t lick anyone’s boots and I certainly don’t expect anyone else to.

Adam’s rise or fall from here on out depends on the ka-ching. ka-ching of the cash register, nothing more, nothing less.

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

I didn’t read many posts that said “Adam will be the star”.maybe you could point me to a few?

if other people think that okay.I don’t.

erinnthered, you gave examples of two female entertainers, to talk apples and apples not apple and oranges would you mind giving two examples of male entertainers.

Hey Adam is thrilled, he said he always wanted to make a video and now he is. How many of us get to do that, its his dream, and now he gets it. Along with that he is entertaining us, like he said if you dont like what he does, go watch or buy the other guys. There is always the mute button. I’m gonna be taping it to watch over a few times. Cant wait till Sunday. Luv, you are precious, I hope your Dad lets you watch it.

So yeah, if you can have both the performance AND the vocals, why not? He also sings better than Gaga, by the way.

Yeah but let’s give respect where it’s due- Gaga is a great musician and writer.

Tweet from @BillyBush Inside AMA rehearsals….checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front. Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front

From looking at the pics, i think the tweeter mistook the strap top on the one guy for a leash. Could be wrong, but I don’t think they saw what they though they did.

No matter how risque the routine is, it won’t be anything extreme. The choreographer knows how far they can go, and isn’t likely to risk getting the station slapped with an FCC fine.

Wow, love those pictures, love the footage from the AMA’s. I can see why they chose Adam as one of the Idols to perform this year. His live performances are so exciting, so energy-inducing, I just keep thinking of the summer concert tour, when Adam left the stage it was just like a huge exhale. I’ve no doubts this AMA performance will be the same, but this time, I bet the entire AMA’s is an energy rush, unlike the tour. I can’t wait for Sunday, so many great performers! Adam, Kelly, Daughtry, Gaga and so many others!! Can’t Wait!!!!

New AMA rehearsal footage:

http://www.etonline.com/

Wow. He really IS trying to become the male Britney Spears. I wonder if he’ll alienate any of the casual Idol fans who thought he was a ‘rock god’ .

loool I think that’s already happened. And it will continue to happen. After the AMAs nobody will think he’s trying to go full on rock anymore.

I’m confused by his role in the video and what his character is doing. Why is he wearing such a nazi-type outfit that makes him look kind of cruel and mean? Is he like the master of all these other people? If he’s being a ‘master’  to me it’s not a sexy master, somehow. Why is he all covered up like that?

cuz he’s the dom, so it makes sense to have him be dressed. It’s part of the power dynamic. Hopefully the trench coat will come off at some point though. I think he’s got a suit or something underneath. I’d like to see casual!Adam in a video sometime too–something like those AMA rehearsal pics, which are hot.

HermeticallySealed
11/19/2009 at 9:50 pm
From looking at the pics, i think the tweeter mistook the strap top on the one guy for a leash. Could be wrong, but I don’t think they saw what they though they did.

No matter how risque the routine is, it won’t be anything extreme. The choreographer knows how far they can go, and isn’t likely to risk getting the station slapped with an FCC fine.

I hope so.

I mean i’m all for the crotch grabbing ,but leashes?

hell nooooo

Yeah but let’s give respect where it’s due- Gaga is a great musician and writer.

It is very simple — Adam and Lady GaGa are both very talented, and share an admiration for Freddy Mercury. But they are very, very different — and IMO incomparable.

I will make two predictions — Adam will be more memorable than any of the other Idol alums on the AMAs.

I think that the 8 min Janet Jackson opening production and BEPs are going to be major — but Adam will be in the Top 4 mentioned acts of the night — and since it is his professional debut, it will be the “breakout” performance of the night.

sigh.have to wait for the new footage to hit YouTube.or I’ll watch w/o sound

That etonline interview is great. The clip of the rehearsal just makes want to see it all NOW. Too bad he once again had to address the ‘out’ mess, but he doesn’t shy away and is honest. Is it Sunday yet?????

Yeah but let’s give respect where it’s due- Gaga is a great musician and writer.

Didnt mean to say any differently, Studio. She is a great writer and probably a much better performer than Adam. I only think he can get viewers’attention by his vocals + performance, not only by his “hot” or not performance. As Greg Wells said, he can do both. So no, not getting lost.

Gaga is great. No wonder he loves her so much.

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

If he is, then just have to step up his game for the Grammys

Buderschnokie,

All who come and talk about how it is ‘just too much’  are actually proving the point by doing so- people won’t be able to stop talking about it. It will be the topic of the week everywhere.

In other words, successful.

Talk is absolutely good, for sure, but here I thought it was record sales that really account for success in the music industry. And talk doesn’t necessarily equate with sales.

I was just pondering the idea that Adam often talks about the fine line, the balancing act, between being true to one’s artist vision and potentially alienating fans and which route he was going to go for this time.

That was all.

People here are going on about how ‘hot’  this is. They should watch some Madonna performances from the 90s, or Britney and the snake and the VMAs, or any number of other performances and videos from a decade or more ago that would make you all blush.

All that you said is 100% true but still I don’t see how this will make Adam Performance any less spectacular or HOT. Both can be the truth.

As far as Adam getting lost in the shuffle…I will agree that spectacle wise and performance wise there are plenty of artist performing that are going to be OTT Especially this year.. (Janet, Lady Gaga, BEP, Eminem, Shakira ect) and that will be as amazing maybe even better then Adam’s…but vocally that is where he will stand out and will not get lost in the mix. The other reason he will stand out is all the other acts are established as far as the music industry goes Adam is the new kid on the block. If he can just be on par with then he will stand out.

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

If he is, then just have to step up his game for the Grammys

lol.you’re awesome….

Right, ignore the haters. If he isn’t the most remembered or shocking performance of the night will it be GaGa’s fault for upstaging him, or hater’s fault for not licking his ten years out of style boots?

Sorry just reread this and noticed the reference to “ten years out of style boots”.

Adam has an eclectic style — he does vintage, classic, designer, and current. But he is never, never, never out of style! Thanks for the laugh!

New AMA rehearsal footage:

http://www.etonline.com/

Love his description of the glam shuffle beat in this googagagoog… yep.

Well, from that ET online video, he’s definitely not lip-syncing and I saw no leashes. I think the idea that the guy with the suspenders and chains on a bare chest may have been tweetified as leashes could be correct. Sunday can’t come soon enough!!!

Q3- I always enjoy your posts, where have you been? You are not here that frequently.

dhunken
11/19/2009 at 9:59 pm
The other reason he will stand out is all the other acts are established as far as the music industry goes Adam is the new kid on the block. If he can just be on par with then he will stand out.

Yes to this!!! Especially if he can be on par with them just having come off of American Idol in May!!

madefourbabies
11/19/2009 at 9:52 pm

New AMA rehearsal footage:

http://www.etonline.com/

His interviews get better and better. That was world class….. class

bridgemah
Love his description of the glam shuffle beat in this googagagoog’ ¦ yep.

I liked this too. He seemed to explain his music more. That it isn’t always the sound but sometimes the beat or movement of a song.

glitter,there’s no reason to drag Kris in here. just sayin’

whatever,you’re entitled to your opinion…

Oh…my God. Everything about that ETOnline interview is love. Adam is so much more articulate when he’s NOT on twitter. I love that he loves Rihanna’s new direction. And the rehearsal scenes are looking good.

Also, just because you can’t see leashes in the teaser vids doesn’t mean there won’t be leashes. IF there are leashes, they probably wouldn’t put it in on a teaser, since they’ll want to reserve the effect and the ~scandal of it for the actual AMAs.

Also, just because you can’t see leashes in the teaser vids doesn’t mean there won’t be leashes. IF there are leashes, they probably wouldn’t put it in on a teaser, since they’ll want to reserve the effect and the ~scandal for the actual AMAs.

IMHO…one can only hope!!

Well, I am sure there are leashes in the vid. That type of ‘scene’ always has leashes and collars. For the AMA’s, maybe not. But still, he will put out a powerful performance at the AMA’s and show them what the new kid can do. His vocals will put him over the top. No one can take that away from him or top him (no pun intended).

IMHO’ ¦one can only hope!!

Yup! I’m hoping away…. I just don’t want Gaga to upstage him or do something similar to him. He needs this performance to be talked about.

dhunken

His interviews get better and better. That was world class’ ¦.. class

Words just flow out of his mouth. He is always descriptive w/o rambling. He gets to the point; he doesn’t go around and around. He is interesting, intelligent, and fun. It’s no wonder so many writers and critics speak of his intelligence and personality.

Wow. That interview is fantastic. The performance is gonna be hawt. And yeah, the glam rock shuffle makes sense now, unlike before (tho kudos to those on here who got T.Rex, b/c I got Depeche Mode, tho maybe something of that is no here, too).

No more words. I’ll leave them to Adam.

dhunken
11/19/2009 at 10:05 pm
madefourbabies
11/19/2009 at 9:52 pm

New AMA rehearsal footage:

http://www.etonline.com/

His interviews get better and better. That was world class’ ¦.. class

ITA. I can’t wait to see the performance, he’ll more than hold his own.

Also, just because you can’t see leashes in the teaser vids doesn’t mean there won’t be leashes. IF there are leashes, they probably wouldn’t put it in on a teaser, since they’ll want to reserve the effect and the ~scandal for the actual AMAs.

IMHO’ ¦one can only hope!!

….or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true because I watch the ET interview and I love him so but I don’t love his dark side.

‘ ¦.or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true because I watch the ET interview and I love him so but I don’t love his dark side.

Cuz some of us love his “dark side,” lol. But it’s okay. For all my hoping, I think the leashes are less likely than not, and even if there are leashes this time I’m sure there will be talk show performances and such that are less bdsm.

luvadamlambert

It’s a legit question is all. Probably won’t be answered though.

saga
11/19/2009 at 8:58 pm

After watching the MV clip and behind-the-scene rehearsal, I finally come to believe and relief that Adam and team can pull it off.

I am still nervous and worried. It’s a big project and everything is new’ ¦

Don’t worry, just always remember Adam’s greatest performance is when he’s singing LIVE,right?(May God bless this Adam).

I hope so.
I mean i’m all for the crotch grabbing ,but leashes?
hell nooooo

Well, I’ll cross my fingers for you luv, but we won’t know till Sunday night! Just hope your dad takes your hint and leaves you alone with the AMAs… Good luck!

dhunken I like your posts and perspective.

This is an interpretation of the song. If he was singing about bunnies and flowers they would be in his vid, but he isn’t singing about that, is he????? (not that I think he would ever sing about bunnies and flowers LOL)

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

If he is, then just have to step up his game for the Grammys

YEAH, baby. One thing to keep in mind: he says he is the new boy on the block. And he is. You have
GaGa
Pink
Whitney
Mariah
SuBo (KIDDING!!!)
Rhianna
Janet

And…where are the guys? Oh, that’s right, there ARE NO GUYS. (BEP has guys in it, but it’s not a male solo artist.) The closest I can come right now is Justin Timberlake (SexyBack), b/c it was so different than the work he had done before, and it had a lot of techno in it. So, hell, maybe JT paved the way a little bit for Adam. But I really can’t think of anyone else, can you? You have r&b, hip hop, soul, emo, rock, pop (like Boys Like Girls), but you do NOT have an artist like Adam. You just don’t.

BTW, I am not a fan of men in leashes, so I am not sure I’ll love the video, but that’s not what you’re getting at the AMA’s. You’re getting dancing and singing (and pyro!) and immaculate vocals, but I don’t think any S&M is going down…so to speak.

clearone, ITA.

Great videos. I don ´t know what I love more, Adam singing or Adam talking. He can ´t get more talented and more articulate.
Can ´t wait for song video and for the AMAs. WOW!!!!
Love this guy!

‘ ¦.or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true because I watch the ET interview and I love him so but I don’t love his dark side.

I, on the other hand, love his dark side.

From twitter:

She never knew what hit her:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/fusilli_head/amarehearsal3-1.jpg

‘ ¦.or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television.

clearone- perversion is a strong word. That would mean that people that enjoy light bondage-which by the way is completely consensual- are perverts. Bondage is consensual sexual play that involves adults. There are no children or animals involved here, that would make this a “perversion”. If you are repulsed by the practice that’s a personal choice.

I still say that the FYE music video concept is kind of similar to Cabaret. You know, pre-WWII decadence with Joel Gray as the mc? Ring a bell? So the music video could be classy decadence or trashy decadence, depends on how it’s done. If that makes sense

I, on the other hand, love his dark side.

I love all of his sides, dark, light, ligth dark, and dark light.

Can someone tell me what’s the deal with the cane that Adam is carrying in the video? Guess it’s the one with the gold handle that we saw over the weekend in photos. I’m mostly a very literal person, so I can’t always figure things out like that.

oh nvm

Can someone tell me what’s the deal with the cane that Adam is carrying in the video? Guess it’s the one with the gold handle that we saw over the weekend in photos. I’m mostly a very literal person, so I can’t always figure things out like that.

pimp cane! ala Lucius Malfoy. Or at least that’s how I see it.

‘ ¦.or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true because I watch the ET interview and I love him so but I don’t love his dark side.

Because not all of us feel the same way as you? Sorry. You are certainly entitled to feel that way, and express a distaste for it even, I won’t try to convince you otherwise. But honestly, I’m on the opposite side of the fence here from you on the issue, and don’t get where you are coming from. But variety, as they say, is the spice of life. How horribly bland the world would be if we all liked the same thing.

“There’s a thin line between the dark side and the light side baby tonight
It’s a struggle gotta rumble tryin’ to find it”

ahah thought this fit the current conversation…. the leash thing did it…. my parents will not be watching this. hopefullly they will watch the amazing race or some shit idk

Sherena,

Gotcha! Don’t know why I didn’t figure it out. Makes sense now. Thanks.

What if TPTB asked David Bowie to introduce Adam at the AMA awards? Wouldn’t that be the icing on the cake or glitter on the cane or whatevs?

I’m not saying Adam will suck. I am saying don’t be surprised if he’s lost in the shuffle.

If he is, then just have to step up his game for the Grammys

YEAH, baby. One thing to keep in mind: he says he is the new boy on the block. And he is. You have
GaGa
Pink
Whitney
Mariah
SuBo (KIDDING!!!)
Rhianna
Janet

And…where are the guys? Oh, that’s right, there ARE NO GUYS. (BEP has guys in it, but it’s not a male solo artist.) The closest I can come right now is Justin Timberlake (SexyBack), b/c it was so different than the work he had done before, and it had a lot of techno in it. So, hell, maybe JT paved the way a little bit for Adam. But I really can’t think of anyone else, can you? You have r&b, hip hop, soul, emo, rock, pop (like Boys Like Girls), but you do NOT have an artist like Adam. You just don’t.

BTW, I am not a fan of men in leashes, so I am not sure I’ll love the video, but that’s not what you’re getting at the AMA’s. You’re getting dancing and singing (and pyro!) and immaculate vocals, but I don’t think any S&M is going down…so to speak.

How edgy ooh.
They’re trying too hard. When something isn’t authentic you can see it a mile away. In the circles that matter(the street), and real playas, it wont get respect for originality, not to mention those cats don’t even tune to the AMAs. Only those who are out of it – who drive Mercedes and listen to pop music – think its cool. Having professionals with standard templates who work with the tired same ol’ acts, commercial at its peak, adds to the poser badge Adam has been tagged with. I was expecting a different approach.

It is what it is. Its what he wanted, and he’s enjoying life. more power to him
I just want to get my hands on Soaked live, sung in the lower register.

The only thing I don’t like about the music video preview is that the trench coat has Adam too covered up. He moves so well and is so fluid; the shirt, tie, tight jeans would have been better (for me.)

Only those who are out of it ‘“ who drive Mercedes and listen to pop music ‘“ think its cool.

Lol I think that’s the point. Appealing to the pop music audience, to the Gaga audience. Out of it or not, they’re a big group.

PattyH I agree with you about the trench coat. In one of the interviews I watched tonight they referred to him as a panther, he moves like one. I loved that phrase. Maybe he takes the coat off… who knows.

Gah!!! So excited for Sunday! Adam sounded really good in the rehearsal clip from ET. I’m not nervous about the performance since I thought he was fantastic at the Idol concert. If there are leashes involved I doubt they’ll show much of it on TV and it looks like he has a lot of dancers so people may not even notice. It doesn’t bother me any but for those it does bother my advice is to just focus on Adam (that shouldn’t be too hard ) and block out the leashes!

I think Adam is supposed to be more the MC position in the video, or the proverbial purveyor of sin, leading the mark (that’d be the viewer) through the “carnival.” So the cane is kinda the standard symbol of such a position, to point out attractions and/or to hold back the mark from getting to close.

“I have a responsibility to make good music. That’s it.”

WIN!

Dammit, I just want the boy to sing…. (the song Hot Stuff by Donna Summer just popped into my mind, for some reason )

Can someone tell me what’s the deal with the cane that Adam is carrying in the video? Guess it’s the one with the gold handle that we saw over the weekend in photos. I’m mostly a very literal person, so I can’t always figure things out like that.

I would say it’s his “I’m in charge” cane .. like the dance teachers used to use .. in the olden days amongst the British gentry it used to be a sign of importance and power to have a cane .. I guess it’s so that they could poke people and say “you boy … out my way” … lol

I think it’s just an emblem of power and importance … of course another way of describing it would be his pimp cane but there again that’s about power and importance

HermeticallySealed
11/19/2009 at 10:41 pm

I think Adam is supposed to be more the MC position in the video, or the proverbial purveyor of sin, leading the mark (that’d be the viewer) through the ‘carnival.’  So the cane is kinda the standard symbol of such a position, to point out attractions and/or to hold back the mark from getting to close.

Good thinking, I think you’re right.

what’s the deal with the cane that Adam is carrying in the video?

Man in a long black coat + gold tipped cane = fallen angel (from FYE lyrics). Temptation by things dark…dangerous…material….???

aa618892
11/19/2009 at 10:24 pm
‘ ¦.or not. I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television.

Because cinemax doesn’t broadcast soft porn until midnight? LOL

Seriously can’t wait.

Ok…if Miley can use stripper pole, well, than Adam with a whip ain’t such a biggie…just sayin’

Okay, HermeticallySealed, I can see this too. Guess we’ll know Sunday. Thanks.

Sorry ‘” this is not likely ‘” people may love Adam, they may hate Adam but they will not forget him. Not happening.

Q3, best statement about Adam ever!

Wow, lots of symbolism in the cane–all leading to “I’m the Master” kind of thing it seems.

Ok’ ¦if Miley can use stripper pole, well, than Adam with a whip ain’t such a biggie’ ¦just sayin’

Plus Miley is only 17 and Miley can’t really sing. It’s one of those apples and oranges things.

I’m just glad that, unlike GaGa, we’ll get to see his beautiful face.

So if he stands on stage and sings grabbing his crotch, no one will complain about it?????

Gone in for the night.

I am so psyched for Sunday evening AMA’s!!!!

I don’t know why Adam is going the Lady Gaga/Madonna route. The man has mad skills. I know he’s theatric, but this orgy/S & M stuff just doesn’t seem necessary. I can’t wait until he’s on his next single because this one is too pervy for me.

So if he stands on stage and sings grabbing his crotch, no one will complain about it?????

Hey, he used a mic stand in a pretty overtly sexual way every night on the Tour and I didn’t hear anyone complaining, but maybe that’s b/c there were so many people shouting his name that I couldn’t hear over the din.

ETA: I will say that I prefer a song like WWFM (and its accompanying video-to-be) but I just wanna hear Adam sing and dance. That’s all I want and I want it NOW.

I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true

You can pray for that all you want and I’ll pray the male dancers are hot and Adam’s pants aren’t too tight because I do wanna see bulge! LOL

People worried about leashes on tv weren’t watching awards shows and MV the last 20 years. Maybe they are too young?

I don’t know why some are so excited at the possibility of such pervision being on national television. I pray it’s not true

You can pray for that all you want and I’ll pray the male dancers are hot and Adam’s pants aren’t too tight because I do wanna see bulge! LOL

People worried about leashes on tv weren’t watching awards shows and MV the last 20 years. Maybe they are too young?

So if he stands on stage and sings grabbing his crotch, no one will complain about it?????

uh, no? Why people would complain? A LOT of singers did it and no one bitched about it. It’s because he’s gay? Because, sorry, grabbing crotches are older than freaking MTV. Hell, even Nsync did it at their time! LMAO

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/11/adam-lambert-kicks-off-rehearsals-for-the-american-music-awards.html

Interesting brief review of Adam’s rehearsal, which was not, er, safe, and a short interview.

This an awards show, it’s supposed to be over the top. The worst thing Adam can do is appear bland. This is the big time, go big or go home. This is in his wheelhouse, I’m so excited for him!!

Zodiac Adam is here to entertain us!

Isn’t the Nokia where the finale was?

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/11/81225/

True ’nuff. I keep thinking Zodiac Show on the big state. Alisan Porter must be so happy.

One thing I keep forgetting: Did you notice how Adam mentioned ppl like Rhianna and Whitney (performers he’s looking forward to seeing) AND also mentioned the Idols (“Daughtry, Carrie, and especially Kelly–he loves Kelly)? He is a real stand-up guy. Oh, and he also said that he’d like to take in a few performances before he goes on, so I’m guessing he’ll perform somewhere in the middle of the show.

HermeticallySealed
11/19/2009 at 10:41 pm

I think Adam is supposed to be more the MC position in the video, or the proverbial purveyor of sin, leading the mark (that’d be the viewer) through the ‘carnival.’  So the cane is kinda the standard symbol of such a position, to point out attractions and/or to hold back the mark from getting to close.

This! I see it as Adam the entertainer is crafting this illusion for “your entertainment”. So he’s part of the action yet not really part of the action because it’s just a fantasy ride he’s taking you on. I think that’s why he tends to say “it’s not that deep” because he’s sees it all as just for fun…it’s not real.

I’m looking forward to seeing the full thing!! And seeing his enthusiasm in his wonderfully articulate interviews is also very fun to watch. Oh and BTW for me… can I just say I find articulate men verrry ssssexxxy.

i. cannot. wait. anymore…..more pictures of the rehearsal?
FOR OUR ENTERTAINMENT..

http://neonlimelight.com/2009/11/19/photos-adam-lambert-rehearses-for-2009-american-music-awards-performance/

…oh the cane is there so he can’t grab his crotch.

erinnthered, you gave examples of two female entertainers, to talk apples and apples not apple and oranges would you mind giving two examples of male entertainers.

Here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter to the average viewer whether the performer is male of female. In fact, you have a better chance of being remembered if you are female. As far as voice…in the Madonna performance with Britney and Christina at the VMAs no one remembers how awesome Christina belted. They only remember that Britney used tongue.

Marilyn Manson has done a few, so has Eminem, D’Angelo managed to be incredibly sexy just standing there. Lots of rock bands have blown it out and shocked for other reasons, although Flea has a tendency to shock during earlier Red Hot Chilli Pepper Performances. He wore a sock, and nothing else, during one awards show (VMAs probably).

The point is, Adam is performing this year. So is Lady GaGa, Rhianna, Eminem, Jay-Z, Black Eyed Peas, Green Day, Janet Jackson, Shakira, and Mary J Blige. All of them have multiple show stopping performances under their belt, and most of them still have it in them to do it again. The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second. They go home the most because they get forgotten the easiest. If he overcomes that, good for him. I’m just saying, don’t pin all your hopes on it.

I can’t stop listening to his ‘goon goon garg garg’ beats in the ET video. He moved his shoulders along with that too.

How do we know he’s going second? I haven’t read that anywhere.

The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second.

How do you know he’s going second? Did they publish a list somewhere?? Please enlighten me.

I’ve seen a couple of people mention he is performing second. Is that a fact or just a rumor?

All Adam just needs to do is do a performance he is proud of. Whatever happens will happen. But if he can feel good about it, that’s what matters.

Adam is talented singer and people will recognize that. Will he still the show? There’s a long list of OTT performers so I don’t think so. But if he can run with the big boys and girls, he will look like he belongs there.

Here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter to the average viewer whether the performer is male of female. In fact, you have a better chance of being remembered if you are female. As far as voice’ ¦in the Madonna performance with Britney and Christina at the VMAs no one remembers how awesome Christina belted. They only remember that Britney used tongue.

So you have to shock and be explicit to get attention? Voice doesnt matter? Well, so Adam is in trouble and Kris is doomed lol!

Adam wont be second, he is in the second PART of the show. Second half, as far as i know.

And who cares who will stand out more, its not a competition. He is the only newbie there. If only the flashy ones could stand out, carrie, kelly and daughtry would have no place there. He only need to grab peoples attention during the 4 minutes of his presentation.

The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second.

Nah. Adam won’t be forgotten. If anything, he’s one of the newer ones up there. We’re all used to seeing Rhianna, Jay Z, Alecia Keys, etc. It’ll be nice to have some new blood up there for once. This is really his big debut to the world, and I doubt they are playing it safe.

Performing on this show is better marketing than not. It’s an honor to be included and Adam will not take it for granted. He’s coming with ‘A’ game and hopefully it will be enough!

And who cares who will stand out more, its not a competition. He is the only newbie there. If only the flashy ones could stand out, carrie, kelly and daughtry would have no place there. He only need to grab peoples attention during the 4 minutes of his presentation.

True dat!!

The point is, Adam is performing this year. So is Lady GaGa, Rhianna, Eminem, Jay-Z, Black Eyed Peas, Green Day, Janet Jackson, Shakira, and Mary J Blige. All of them have multiple show stopping performances under their belt, and most of them still have it in them to do it again.

Yup, and we’ve all seen them a thousand times. the same o same o. Adam will stand out just because he isn’t part of the regular folk.

New AMA rehearsal footage:

http://www.etonline.com/

Loved this! Thank you for posting. I just flat out love everything about him.
I love all of the symbolism in the dance routine, I love that he embraces and appreciates his female fans I love how articulate he is in interviews (he handled the OUT situation very well) and in all honesty I will still love him even if his performance sucks, which is HIGHLY unlikely imho for the following reasons:

1) As he himself cleverly pointed out, he is the only male solo (pop) act so by default this fact already makes him stand out; it is a statement in it of itself because he has been willing to be bold and brave and attempt to conquer mainstream America and compete with the women, but its not really a competition since he is male

2) His voice is UNPARALLELED in today’s POP scene (with the exception of Christina Aguilera and Celine Dion, respectively) especially when compared to all those performing (and since both Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey are shadows of their former selves) and there are no other male performers to speak of except Daughtry but his style is completely different than Adam’s.

3) He has a great work ethic. He has been preparing for this event for weeks now it seems and that is a mark of a true professional. They work really hard to make everything look easy and flawless.

Besides the song is good…the audio peeps need to make sure the sound quality is good…this is the only factor out of his hands cuz even if he were to get sick he could still sing through it, so that aspect is covered.

Adam said he had a good seat and wanted to watch as many of the performances as possible before he had to get ready. That definitely does not sound like he’s going second.

He isn’t going second. Watch the ET video, he says he plans to watch as much of the show as he can before he has to go back and get ready. Based on that, I expect to see him middle – end. Whitney Houston will probably be last.

“The point is, Adam is performing this year. So is Lady GaGa, Rhianna, Eminem, Jay-Z, Black Eyed Peas, Green Day, Janet Jackson, Shakira, and Mary J Blige. All of them have multiple show stopping performances under their belt, and most of them still have it in them to do it again. The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second. They go home the most because they get forgotten the easiest. If he overcomes that, good for him. I’m just saying, don’t pin all your hopes on it.”

I am watching the American Music Awards so I can see Adam perform. I am not looking to see how he ranks among the other stars, because it doesn’t matter. About everyone watching has a favorite and most likely their views of who’s the best if colored by their likes and dislikes. Some people love Adam, some hate him and that goes for the rest of the artist. I am not a fan of Lady GaGA, Rhianna, Carrie Underwood, Kelly, Eminem, Green day or Jay-Z, but I love Adam, Black-Eyed Peas, Mary J. Blige, Daughtry and Cook. I love Whitney, but I know her voice is no longer what it once was and I wish her all the luck. Carrie for me is very bland and boring and her genre of music is not one of my favorites. Some people will be excited seeing her her perform, I will be wondering when is she going to get off the stage. It’s all a matter of who you like and what kind of music you listen to.

erinnthered, thank you for responding. Actually, I want for Adam the same I wish for all the entertainers performing Sunday, to walk off feeling good about their performance, and the audience going crazy for them. Smiles all around! Wish I could attend to support all of them, I am an Adam fan so maybe one extra scream for him

I don’t have that much to say, but I just read the whole thread and I just want to join in I guess.

My one thought is that there will be a lot of people watching the AMAs on TV (and even in the audience) who have never seen Adam perform.
Because not everyone watched AI, or saw the tour. So just the fact that he’s a new face will make him stand out. And he just stands out, doesn’t he? If anyone is worried about that, I think I can safely say, you have nothing to worry about. The man has stage presence, it isn’t going anywhere!

I have to say the stuff this video and song are all about is not really what I’m into, but I’m not offended by it and it’s a free country, if you don’t like, don’t watch. I’m really glad Adam is getting his big chance and doing it his way, which is the only way, right? Artists have to be true to who they are or they’re nothing.

As far as voice’ ¦in the Madonna performance with Britney and Christina at the VMAs no one remembers how awesome Christina belted. They only remember that Britney used tongue.

Seems to me, Adam a whole lot of memorable performances on AI, without the use of orgies or S & M. As someone stated before love or hate Adam he gets people talking.

Ok – late to the party again – but I am so excited to see the MV and AMAs! The mv footage looks awesome and hot, and I love what I’m hearing and seeing about the theme (the whole German, sexy cabaret motif).

As for the AMAs – I just want Adam to have fun, and I know that fun will translate to the audience – I can’t wait!

He isn’t going second. Watch the ET video, he says he plans to watch as much of the show as he can before he has to go back and get ready. Based on that, I expect to see him middle ‘“ end. Whitney Houston will probably be last.

I totally agree with this!!

His pimp cane is going to get a pimp position in the show run order…I am guessing about 2hrs into the 3hr show!

He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second. They go home the most because they get forgotten the easiest. If he overcomes that, good for him. I’m just saying, don’t pin all your hopes on it.

haha
It’s hard to try and twist an AMA appearance into a negative! But, okay. Poor Adam, he gets to debut his first single on the AMAs and he might have to go second. Is it too late to ask for a presenter’s spot instead?

The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second. They go home the most because they get forgotten the easiest. If he overcomes that, good for him. I’m just saying, don’t pin all your hopes on it.

I would say.. wait and see before giving opinion on something that we don’t know.. we didn’t really see the whole show.. so IMO.. I would wait before saying his chances of him standing out in AMA is slim.. who knows what Jamie King can do

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I’m really looking forward to the AMA performance. I know some people lip-synch on live TV, even people who are good singers, because they don’t trust the variables to all align right. And I’d imagine that happens even more when there’s a big production to it. Does anyone have the experience/knowledge of the biz enough to confidently say whether this will be a truly live performance? I’m really hoping so. I like the single OK, and I like the song a lot, but I want to hear a live version of it, I want to hear him rip it. I’d imagine it’ll be really live, right? Or am I asking too much?

The chances of him standing out in that crowd are slim. Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second.

I’m sorry, but since when did the AMAs become AI part two? And how was second officially ranked as the worst spot? Other than pimp spot being considered typically the best, I haven’t really seen the scientific proof of this. Still, ymmv.

I don’t think Adam will be going second, but in the second part of the show. I agree that we shouldn’t expect him to stand out or be a showstopper though. This isn’t AI, it’s the real world where the “competition” for the spotlight is much tougher. I would be really happy if he just has a good, solid performance that helps his single sales, and although I’d love for him to be the breakout story of the night, chances are the focus will be on Gaga again. I just don’t want him to mess up, and I want to like his performance, personally.

If his performance is “racey” it will be closer to 10pm. They tend to have the more family friendly performances at the begining (T-Swift, Kelly, Daughtry)

Loved the eonline interview. He expresses himself so well (okay, and he looks amazing in it)

Does anyone have the experience/knowledge of the biz enough to confidently say whether this will be a truly live performance?

I think it will all be live….Adam…Band…Backing vocals….they may run some sweetner backing tracks of like sound effects in the song and maybe some backing vocals to help thicken the backing vocals up, but like 95% live. Listen to the ET video that was recently posted in this thread…sounds pretty damn live to me, and that was recorded through the mic on the camera, so once you get the real mix from the tv truck for the show, I think it will sound really good!

When something isn’t authentic you can see it a mile away. In the circles that matter(the street), and real playas, it wont get respect for originality, not to mention those cats don’t even tune to the AMAs. Only those who are out of it ‘“ who drive Mercedes and listen to pop music ‘“ think its cool.

Oh, Rub. With all due respect, I don’t think people who are real “playas” or know about real “playas” watch AI or hang out at MJ’s Blog.

BTW, I cracked up at the part about the hipster guys wearing girls’ jeans. The guys at my son’s high school were all into that. Did. Not. Get. I was like, “Um…. aren’t they cut a little differently? Like, a little UNCOMFORTABLY????”

He’ll never be forgotten… he is a media darling. The OUTgate was downplayed or they sided on him. He’ll always be the talk of the town because he is NEW… AN AI ANOMALY. No one with a pendulum can STRUT like Adam. So, the chances of him standing in the crowd is far from slim.

Are we really worried about Adam being a wallflower at this thing – really – ah ok then. Can’t see it myself. When you can outshine the likes of Kiss while still in the constraints of Idol, just imagining what he will pull off now he is off the leash (pardon the pun) has me all sorts of happy.

To quote someone “nobody puts Glammy in a corner…”

Are we really worried about Adam being a wallflower at this thing ‘“ really ‘“ ah ok then. Can’t see it myself. When you can outshine the likes of Kiss while still in the constraints of Idol, just imagining what he will pull off now he is off the leash (pardon the pun) has me all sorts of happy.

To quote someone ‘nobody puts Glammy in a corner’ ¦’ 

K first of all I’m scared of the person you’re quoting. “Glammy?” Adam isn’t a freakin hamster.

But to address your point, it’s not worrying. It’s just that I’m not going to assume he’s automatically going to be one of the most memorable performers of the night and end up disappointed if he isn’t. KISS is past its prime, the performers on the AMAs are popular current entertainers. It’s easier to stand out within the context of Idol than in the real world with established stars who are media darlings too, many of them more so than Adam. I think most of us would be happy if he just gives a good performance, though, so it’s all good. ^.^

It’s easier to stand out within the context of Idol than in the real world with established stars who are media darlings too, many of them more so than Adam. I think most of us would be happy if he just gives a good performance, though, so it’s all good. ^.^

MTE

Earlier someone commented on Adam loosing some of his fans because he is no longer AI Adam. My take on that is good…who wants a fan that thinks what you did in a kareoke competition defines you as a singer and a performer. I get this from several of his reviews, too. Some people just want the Adam they saw and heard and want him to continue in that vain because it was comfortable for them.

Well, sorry. Adam is going to move forward with the same kind of stuff he did pre-idol…back in his Zodiac and Citizen Vein days. He knows who he wants to be and what kind of a performer he wants to be seen as. If it infuriates the sensibilities of peeps that liked him for his TOMT and Mad World, so be it. Adam is moving on…and if AI fans get left in the dust that is just how it is. Their votes may have kept him moving forward on Idol, but it was his talent, alone, that got him a recording contract and an ivitation to the AMAs. People watching a reality show didn’t get that for him.

Personally, I’ll feel bad if “fans” turn their back on him because he doesn’t fit into their sensibility boxes…I don’t want him to lose the people he worked so hard to please, but I do want these fans to be progressive in their thinking and to let Adam be the type of entertainer he wants to be.

And as far as Adam not measuring up on the AMAs….well that might happen and he may be totally overshawdowed by Kelly and Chris and Carrie and Lady GaGa and the rest of the top 40. But he won’t go down without a fight. He’ll do the best damn job he knows how to do…and if it isn’t good enough, only Adam will feel the defeat. We as fans will just have to move on and hope for something better for him next time.

I swear- that boy has so many Bowie T-shirts- I’m in awe…

And can I please say that he just looks so beautiful!!!!!
Cannot wait three more days!!!!!!

How do we know he’s going second? I haven’t read that anywhere.

Adam was second in the promo. That doesn’t meam he will be second on the show.

I am so tired of being lectured because of my sensibilities and my standards. It isn’t a crime to have them.

If it infuriates the sensibilities of peeps that liked him for his TOMT and Mad World, so be it. Adam is moving on’ ¦and if AI fans get left in the dust that is just how it is. Their votes may have kept him moving forward on Idol, but it was his talent, alone, that got him a recording contract and an ivitation to the AMAs. People watching a reality show didn’t get that for him.

Wow do I disagree with this. People watching AI most definitely got that for him. He didn’t get it before AI. I doubt he would have gotten it if he hadn’t made the Top 12. Without those being condemned for preferring MadWorld or TOMT Adam, he quite probably wouldn’t be where he is today. If he could have gotten to Top 2 performing ROF every night, he would have done it…….but it was pretty obvious after that night that he had to tone it down some in order to move forward.

Good for Adam going out there and doing what he wants to do but I hope it doesn’t cost him some all important AI fans to buy the CD he put his heart and soul into.

BTW, I cracked up at the part about the hipster guys wearing girls’ jeans. The guys at my son’s high school were all into that. Did. Not. Get. I was like, ‘Um’ ¦. aren’t they cut a little differently? Like, a little UNCOMFORTABLY????’ 

Girl skinnies sometimes have more spandex so they’re actually more comfortable on guys’ glambulges.

Anxiously awaiting Sunday’s AMAs and GMA and Letterman and Ellen!! And Adam’s album!! What a great week coming up and Thanksgiving as well!!! Happy next week to us all!!!

Also, I really think ppl are being mislead by the direction he is taking into thinking he wants to be the male version of Britney Spears. He doesnt want to be the male version of anything or anyone. His goal is to be a mainstream artist and that entails that he sing modern pop stuff but this is not THE ONLY type of music he is doing. Britney Spears cant hold a candle to Adams level of talent. She is a figure that a record company fabricated in order to make money. The record execs projected her as this “all american sweetheart” that could sing and dance and be sexy at the same time and with the right looks and the right songs (none of which she wrote) they made it happen. But it was all just a big fabricated lie. She totally cheated her fans (i.e. lip-synced her way through concerts) and cheated ppl like Adam who has real genuine God-given talent. Her willingness to just go along with that image, to me, says that she doesnt care about artistic integrity, while artists like Adam do. She didnt care about the music she just wanted to be rich and famous. I effect, her almost overnight success despite the lack of talent belittles artists like Adam because it undermines his talent and is actually the reason why he struggled so long to achieve the recognition he wanted.
My one ONLY spiff with Adam is his willingness to ignore what she represents because the songs are fun and catchy. They are so shallow. I just refuse to listen at all out of principle and out of respect to real artists but w/e…its his choice and I respect that. I know he would say “its not that deep.”
I just dont understand the comparisons. To me its like apples and oranges.

The Lady Gaga comparisons I get. But, Gaga is just too eccentric, polarizing and over the top, to the point that her performances and stylistic choices seem chaotic UNLESS she explains it but I we cant always know what shes thinking LOL
What I find interesting is that her music is lyrically and melodically simple and accessible.
I found it incredibly amusing how Adam (while still complementing her) actually called her out on it in the OUT interview…he said her music is club music and it isnt as avante-garde as her image and hes totally right. She just happens to also be a talented singer, pianist and songwriter. But the latter comes second to her image and frankly her eccentricity borders on egocentricity.
The image doesnt serve the music as is with most artists including Adam…
in her case the music serves her image .
Sshe lives and breathes the high fashion, the celebrity aspect, the “shock factor” and attention and thats where she looses my admiration a little bit…
I admire her as a musician (i also think she is smart and I appreciate that she puts thought behind her vision) but those are just parts of her whole persona…she just isnt balanced they way Adam is imho which is why I prefer Adam.
He is more grounded and I admire that. I love how he prefers that he be recognized for his singing abilities and wants his talent to be at the core of everything and do the talking for him.
Lady Gaga wants to be know for her “performance art” so really you get somebody who is a good singer, good songwriter and a good pianist, but ultimately not exceptional at any (just yet) because all of this is overshadowed by her image.
So I think she should emphasize her musical abilities (for instance, I think her acoustic performances are amazing) and “structure” her image a little more( you know, not wear a different wig everyday and some dress that makes you look like you have a bird’s nest on your head). I think as a whole it will make her more appealing and I really think thats the direction shes going…I wouldnt be surprised if her AMA performance is more cohesive than her past ones in some ways…although I may be completely wrong LOL
but just sayin’
her video for “Bad Romance” certainly makes more sense artistically than some of her past ones, to me at least and thats why I think ppl like it a lot…I know I do…and the song is really good.

Good for Adam going out there and doing what he wants to do but I hope it doesn’t cost him some all important AI fans to buy the CD he put his heart and soul into.

I’m sure it will cost him. The idea, and the risk, is that he’s trying to gain an equivalent amount of non-AI fans to make up for all the AI fans he loses. Because it’s through them that he can build up the pop culture presence to last through several more albums, not through an AI fanbase that will mostly fall away as soon as the next season of AI starts anyway. But I agree that without AI and without all of his fans Adam wouldn’t be where he is now; it’s just that to now that he’s here, the most sensible way to advance isn’t to cater to those same fans.

Otoh it’s perfectly normal to be skeeved out by all the BDSM leaning things Adam’s been exploring lately, and it doesn’t make you close minded or anything. I think he’s smart enough to diversify tho. FYE is a song about S&M sex, so of course there’s going to be elements of that in the performances, but with his other singles the themes will change, hopefully into ones that are less “deviant”

Here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter to the average viewer whether the performer is male of female. In fact, you have a better chance of being remembered if you are female.

Ummm, not if your female and you want to see a hot guy perform…I know I do. I appreciate the female performers but I as a straight female nothing that they do would really excite me, except if its really great singing Ill admire it more. With Adam…well hes sonically pleasing but also aesthetically pleasing. You catch my drift? LOL

I am watching the American Music Awards so I can see Adam perform. I am not looking to see how he ranks among the other stars, because it doesn’t matter.

Actually I think this does matter to a lot of ppl..as a fan Im not going to judge as to who I think is better because obviously I think Adam is and we are all biased but I do want to see how he fares amidst all of these other artists. I want to compare them just to see how he would fit in the landscape although Im pretty sure he will stand out.
Only 2 more days

And can I please say that he just looks so beautiful!!!!!

Yeah by the rehearsal photos, he really looks on top of his game!

I swear- that boy has so many Bowie T-shirts- I’m in awe’ ¦

LOL yeah its true.
Well we know he is a fan but I also think he does it for reference so ppl know what he is about…
its a way to remind ppl “hey this is the guy Im trying to emulate” but in his own way with that killer voice of his that he is more GLAM POP than GLAM ROCK right now…
I think its interesting cuz Im not a fan of Bowie but I understand why Adam appreciates him stylistically and is constantly thrusting that image upon himself, its smart…
with Adam its all very organized and well thought out and clean and pretty…
I really love that about him. I totally get what he is about.
He doesnt need a bunch of fabricated crap to get attention and to make him the complex and multilayer-ed human being that he is because its innate in him…
I think that is so rare these days.
I also just love how a lot of the themes in his music and in the aesthetic aspsect of his performances are driven by the reactions of his fans…like there is an interaction or exchange going on there…I love what he said in the ET video about wanting to inspire ppl and not be a show-off (LadyGagacoughcough)
I love how he keeps unintentionally calling her out on her bullshit. At least I see it that way hehe

As far as voice’ ¦in the Madonna performance with Britney and Christina at the VMAs no one remembers how awesome Christina belted.

Think about it. He’s going second, right? What is traditionally the worst performance spot on Idol? Second.

Someone better tell Kelly, Carrie, and Daughtry to not even bother to show up.

In Adam’s interview he said he is going to be sitting as close as he can and watch as many performances as he can before he has to get ready backstage. One is “many performances”? Actually, I think it would not be likely that Adam would go after Janet. She is supposed to have a big production number like Adam, so it would take time to take down her set and put up Adam’s.

If it infuriates the sensibilities of peeps that liked him for his TOMT and Mad World, so be it. Adam is moving on’ ¦and if AI fans get left in the dust that is just how it is. Their votes may have kept him moving forward on Idol, but it was his talent, alone, that got him a recording contract and an ivitation to the AMAs. People watching a reality show didn’t get that for him.

That makes no sense. Take away the votes and Adam would not have a recording contract. Alone, his talent would be….doing whatever it was doing before Idol.

Good for Adam going out there and doing what he wants to do but I hope it doesn’t cost him some all important AI fans to buy the CD he put his heart and soul into.

“All important AI fans” is the term that I have an issue with. The show was a reality competition for Adam to get noticed. And these AI fans decided that they wanted and want to believe in the Adam they saw perform on the show. And yup, Adam played the game, as have many Idols before him. But he didn’t win and wasn’t guaranteed anything for finishing second. He got his contract (as did Danny and Allison) by demonstrating their talent to the people of 19 and their subsequent record companies. The only person that the AI voters got anything for was the eventual winner. 19 could have just told Adam to go jump in the nearest lake…his fans didn’t think he was good enough to win so why should they now think he “owes” them anything.

And when I speak of sensibilities it doesn’t have anything to do with how a person perceives Adam in a sensual or sexual way. It has to do with allowing a person to be themselves. You can disagree with his overt sexuality, that is fine, but don’t equate that with Adam stabbing his AI fan base in the back. He is who he is….and if people don’t like the direction he is headed then they have the choice to call an end to their fanship or to accept his change in direction.

Girl skinnies sometimes have more spandex so they’re actually more comfortable on guys’ glambulges.

Well, I feel a LITTLE better about this, then, Ross. Girls seemed to pride themselves on having boyfriends who could wear “girls’ jeans.” I didn’t get it. Kids today!!!!!

And since I can’t edit I’ll add that Adam had plenty of fans that were savvy enough to know that ROF and BTBW and WLL were the true Adam and the direction he wanted to go…they researched the man and were able to see the kind of work he had done before. And these fans voted for him, too. It wasn’t just the ones who were enamored with Mad World.

adamisthemanfan:
“Here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter to the average viewer whether the performer is male of female. In fact, you have a better chance of being remembered if you are female.”

Ummm, not if your female and you want to see a hot guy perform‘ ¦I know I do. I appreciate the female performers but I as a straight female nothing that they do would really excite me, except if its really great singing Ill admire it more.

Yep, that; and for me I just prefer to listen to a male voice most of the time, possibly a function of my hetero female dna as well.

But the main reason I don’t like that the term “sexy popstar performance” translates to “female popstar performance” in this country is the misogyny I think it represents. Anything that caters to the pleasure or fantasies of the dominant male heterosexual culture is great, but if something is seen as aimed primarily at providing female pleasure it’s somehow suspect and too “out there.”

BillyBush
Inside AMA rehearsals….checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front.Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

Magnificant. And it’s gothic w high fashion not s/mwhich was incorrectly posted day one and then everyone following carried it further. Fortunately, the video will be fantastic, magnificant, outstanding, fabulous, just as is Adam.

Someone better tell Kelly, Carrie, and Daughtry to not even bother to show up.

In that ET clip, when Adam mentioned Lady Gaga, Rahanna, Jannet, and Whitney, ET showed their pencil sketch pictures placed on their seats, but idols Daughtry, Carrie and Kelly didn’t have the same treatment when Adam mentioned them. Also Billy (erhhh) tweet that Adam has the best seat among idols. But Adam hasn’t prove himself in music selling market yet.

It kinda made me sad to further realize that idol bubble is really small and even idol stars like Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry ain’t taken very seriously by pop music industry.

And speaking of doing something different than what you did on Idol, Carrie has a little advice:

“I feel like any contestant that comes off ‘Idol’ that does well on ‘Idol’ has to stay true to what people voted for,” Underwood said, in response to a question.

Underwood, 26, said that she finds it “really strange” when “Idol” contestants change their musical style after leaving the show, because through their votes viewers tell contestants “what they want.”
(emphasis mine)
http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSTRE5AG0A220091117

But hey….what the hell does she know anyway?

I also just love how a lot of the themes in his music and in the aesthetic aspect of his performances are driven by the reactions of his fans’ ¦like there is an interaction or exchange going on there’ ¦

Remember how Adam often talked about feeding off the energy of the audience and that performer-audience exchange in his tour interviews?

I was reminded of an interview or youtube video I once saw of Chris Corner (IAMX) where he described performing as having sex with all 5000 people in the audience at once. Works for me.

He is who he is’ ¦.and if people don’t like the direction he is headed then they have the choice to call an end to their fanship or to accept his change in direction.

Yep…and complaining about his choices (Im talking to you, OUT editor LOL) which to me seem like remnants of who he is (and he is an artist with integrity) or predicting the worst possible scenario(s) projects negative energy. This is ultimately what Adam doesnt want and what his fans dont want.
I dont mean we shouldnt have our opinions and express them but saying that he will be overshadowed by other performers when really we dont know what any of the performances will look like (or who will be singing live) seems overly pessimistic to me…although it is nevertheless a possibility…
Im just saying its the equivalent of me saying Kris’s album sales will tank when its only been two days since the release of his album.

http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSTRE5AG0A220091117

But hey’ ¦.what the hell does she know anyway?

Although I didn’t join the discussion, I know ppl here have had a long discussion of Carrie’s advice like 2 days ago…

gemini1
11/20/2009 at 1:25 am
BillyBush
Inside AMA rehearsals’ ¦.checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front.Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

This is so important. It is even more important than decent sales.

http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSTRE5AG0A220091117

But hey’ ¦.what the hell does she know anyway?

Although I didn’t join the discussion, I know ppl here have had a long discussion of Carrie’s advice like 2 days ago’ ¦

Interesting she liked Kris and Danny… but Danny never wanted to sing country during the entire show. I guess he didn’t get Carrie’s memo. But then the ones who didn’t do well on the show can sing whatever they want after the show?

BillyBush
Inside AMA rehearsals’ ¦.checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front.Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

This is so important. It is even more important than decent sales.

further prove that Billy Bush is a douche.

I’m so sick of this Adam Lambert hysteria! This is going to be Clay Aiken all over again, I’m sorry but it most likely is going to be true. Come on now, his album isn’t even out yet and Adam and his representatives are through “divatudes” to magazines. He better be careful because his name can become burned in the industry in a flash.

Adam’s upcoming tv spots:
November 22……..American Music Awards
November 25……..GMA and Letterman
December 1st…….Ellen

I thought his Ellen appearance was next week, but just taping next week. Actual show Dec. 1st.

Underwood, 26, said that she finds it ‘really strange’  when ‘Idol’  contestants change their musical style after leaving the show, because through their votes viewers tell contestants ‘what they want.’ (emphasis mine)
http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSTRE5AG0A220091117

But hey’ ¦.what the hell does she know anyway?

Great. So now Adam knows what middle aged women want from him and he isn’t fulfilling it b/c he wants to pursue a younger pop music audience. It will be better for him in the long run. Carrie and Kelly’s first albums succeeded because they catered to their Idol fanbases, but the later releases wouldn’t have succeeded without new fans, because AI fans just move on so fast. The casual fans, which comprise most of them, are fans of the show, not of individual contestants.

The issue is prioritizing. What’s more important for career longevity–holding on to AI fans, or gaining new fans? I would say definitely the latter, because AI fans are generally good for one, maybe two albums, and then you’re left trying to break into a new demographic anyway. So might as well start now when the odds are best.

Good night peeps
two more days!!

I’m so sick of this Adam Lambert hysteria!

Sorry about that. I don’t know what to tell you. Many people are REALLY enjoying it.You might try avoiding the morning and late night shows over the next week. And the AMAs, including the red-carpet. Also, the extra/entertainment type shows.

I’m sure there will be quite a few Adam threads around here over the next week with the AMAs and album release. Luckily, mj puts up other threads so there is something for everyone.

i’m confused… nothing new, but i’m scratching my head here… what is the deal with a new second single being bandied about, but ”fye” is being performed on the ama’s… and we have a video for ”fye”… is ”fye” still the ”official” single, or is this new single now the ”official” one… it may not be that deep, but suffice to say it’s confusing as heck…

Inside AMA rehearsals’ ¦.checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front.Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

This is so important. It is even more important than decent sales.

The seating chart at Awards Events are very important — the better the seat, the more imporant you are to the show. In the case of a performer, like Adam, a great seat, means that he will have a similarly great placement in performance order.

i’m confused’ ¦ nothing new, but i’m scratching my head here’ ¦ what is the deal with a new second single being bandied about, but ‘ fye’  is being performed on the ama’s’ ¦ and we have a video for ‘ fye’ ’ ¦ is ‘ fye’  still the ‘ official’  single, or is this new single now the ‘ official’  one’ ¦ it may not be that deep, but suffice to say it’s confusing as heck’ ¦

The purpose of a single release is to build awareness for an artist/new album and to promote album sales/concerts. When promoting a cross-over artist, there are quite often two singles released from one album about the same time.

Since FYE is a multi-genre album [pop, rock, dance] and the first single from the album, FYE, is a dance track, it makes sense to release a pop single, too. I expect RCA to push both FYE and WWFM once Adam’s Prpomo Tour starts on Sunday. And don’t be surprised is they release a third single from the album in the near future.

The purpose of a single release is to build awareness for an artist/new album and to promote album sales/concerts. When promoting a cross-over artist, there are quite often two singles released from one album about the same time.

Since FYE is a multi-genre album [pop, rock, dance] and the first single from the album, FYE, is a dance track, it makes sense to release a pop single, too. I expect RCA to push both FYE and WWFM once Adam’s Prpomo Tour starts on Sunday. And don’t be surprised is they release a third single from the album in the near future.

”still scratching head”… bear with me… isn’t this approach usually reserved for more established artists, those who have a proven and verifiable track record of being able to sell units, and sustain those sales over the long haul… a beyonce can do this, a lady gaga can do this… i’ve seen this for myself… do the sales thus far of ”fye”, and the new single justify rca taking this approach… has ”fye” established a level of sales and airplay that gives rca confidence in doing this… rca has never been know for a lot of risk taking, and this seems to me to be the mother of all gambles… it’s a risky strategem vis a vis radio, even for those mega sellers, because airplay for one single can start to cannibalize airplay for the other… it happened w/beyonce’s ”if i were a boy” last year when ”single ladies” was released… that is what is just… oh well, it ain’t that deep i reckon, but i’m not feeling this move at all… rca are the pros at this, so we shall see…

I’d still like to know what is truly defined as the AI Adam. The guy’s always proven to be eclectic. Even some of his biggest detractors could be absolutely blown away one week, after having dreaded the Adam from the previous week. I just truly don’t see how could Carrie’s advice applies for him, as I fail to understand what was the genre that made him successful on the show. Wasn’t that another complaint from non-fans?

Citizen Vein, Zodiac, 10 Commandments, Upright Cabaret, TfM, FYE…there’s always been an Adam for everyone.

Regarding the AMA’s, I’m still puzzled by what we’ve seen, the one thing I’m hoping is that he’s able to keep his breath through all those routines.

I’ve never followed AI prior to this year. Most of the names everyone mentions I’ve never heard of. I love MJs because she has all the stories on Adam in one place and that is why I come here. People keep mentioning Adam in the same context as Clay or Taylor. Honestly, I had no idea who they were until I finally did some research and looked them up.

Maybe because I wasn’t in a bubble when they were on but, seriously, Adam is like Clay and Taylor? WOW. Those are examples of why I didn’t watch the show. They are both talented but neither has the X Factor or “IT” quality that could make them a star. Adam has that in spades.

America is a conservative country and it will be interesting to see the reaction to his AMA performance. Whether he will be a star and succeed in the US or not remains to be seen but I have no doubt he will be iconic. All iconic figures were controversial when they started out. They weren’t cookie cutter entertainers. They were bold, fresh, exciting and knew how to get people talking about them.

Regarding the whole staying true to who you were on Idol otherwise you may lose fans converstion….

Hello people!!! The AI fans have already left the building!!! Hasn’t everyone seen the sales figures for Idols singles??? Kris and Adam may have sold 1m songs when Idol ended but where are the fans that bought those because they sure aren’t flocking to Itunes now.

CD sales will be very interesting this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDrJcOD-Oxc

Anther AMA interview.Adam is very smiley

People keep mentioning Adam in the same context as Clay or Taylor. Honestly, I had no idea who they were until I finally did some research and looked them up.

People who have watched the show a long time have become jaded. Clay and Taylor had huge fanbases, and they are pretty much old news now and those people think the same will happen to Adam. One had great success out the gate ( Clay) and one didn’t ( Taylor).

I am not one of those people. I too have watched this show and been obsessed with it since the end of season 1. The only “old timers” who don’t notice the HUGE difference between Clay, Taylor and Adam are the ones who have a different horse in the race.

Clay and Taylor had rabid, rabid fan bases. That was it. They did NOT have the media behind them like they do for Adam. In Taylor’s case he had weak material for his album and his management pretty much hung him out to dry. In Clay’s case alot of his fans abandoned him after he came out of the closet.

People can be in denial all they want. Adam is already a star. His sales may or may not reflect it at first, but RCA is grooming him for the long term career and anyone who doesn’t see that basically just refuses to.

hi, i’m newbie here, i’m from indonesia and absolutely i’m a big fan of Adam. I just wanna say the album is amazing, prob. the best album that i ever heard (cant wait to buy it on November 23!!), Cant wait for Fye video and AMA performance. and fyi, Indonesia loves ADAM, one of radio station in Bali even playing ‘Want’ and ‘Want’ made #1 on chart!!. Now, both Time For Miracles and FYE also played too.. i’m sure he will gonna be success here!!
(sorry about my english, but i’m happy to be Adam fans!!)

Studio57
People can be in denial all they want. Adam is already a star. His sales may or may not reflect it at first, but RCA is grooming him for the long term career and anyone who doesn’t see that basically just refuses to.

ITA, thankyou. I have been saying this for a long time now. They are willing to let him take risks because they know what they have.

BillyBush
Inside AMA rehearsals’ ¦.checking out seating chart. @jlo is 2 away from Eminem in front.Lambert best Idol seat. Power ladies up front about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

This is so important. It is even more important than decent sales.

further prove that Billy Bush is a douche.

Made me LOL, BeckyMD, I agree SO much. Did you see Billy Bush call Adam’s AMA routine “oversexed”? Humph!

There is someone on twitter asking for which Adam song to recommend to be played to wake up the astronauts. I think Sure Fire Winners because of the rocket ship line…

I saw this, Arigitha

http://twitpic.com/q34t1

Way to go, Indonesia!

i would like to know if adam will start doing radio tours, ive read that he will be in duran’s show nxt wik? is that true….?tnx.

even stars got starstruck wid adam. check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuPFOfTOv4

Welcome Arigitha! So cool to hear about Adam’s success there! They love Want???? Oh, well- I like it too, lol.

BTW- I think Adam is right on track with following Carrie’s advice. He is staying true to his versatile ways that he displayed on the show.

mayang- yes- Adam will be on the elvis duran show Tuesday

Awwww! i love Jenna Fischer!

i really love mark thompson, pipol in u tube called him now a glambert!!!!

http://bit.ly/3Jg98N

@ScottandTodd: Yes. @adamlambert will join us in studio Tuesday morning! Listen online at PLJ.COM!

Is that the Elvis Duran station or another one?

tnx for the info. is it nov 23 yet? well i know it just around the corner, lets be prepared for adam storm.. im not worried on his performance on ama.he will pull it off. i know it.. he is blessed.

http://bit.ly/1iHLp he is such a sweetheart. u r my boo adam lav yah bb!!!!

Sorry.

I really liked Adam on the show.

But they are still calling him a “Rocker” It rubs me the wrong way!

He is a male Brittney for Christ’s sake!! with a better voice of course.

The real rocker is Allison!

How can anyone call this album rock is beyond me!!

sorry, just had to say that because it’s TRUE!

Glam rock has a more poppy vibe to it because of the beats. Adam has said and most people agree this album is more poppy than rock, but there are DEFINITE rock vibes to the album.

FIBOU is ROCK? Alrighty then, lol.

@Mitla96 : Wow,!! yeah indonesia love Adam. maybe you want to check this http://www.lautanindonesia.com/forum/lagu-barat/adam-lambert-rock-god
This is our forum,(you can find Adam thread that was one of the popular thread) we love Adam, you can call us; Glambert Indonesia,, ha..ha…
And btw, we ADORE yo MJ, thanks for all the information about Adam,

Studio57 I think that is the other one. Others were saying they hoped he would be on both shows, this is good, I think.

why is is there are pipol who doesnt like adam and comes and read and gives negative comments about him?hey get a life…

In Clay’s case alot of his fans abandoned him after he came out of the closet.

That is sad and depressing, to abandon him when really needed the support sucks.

I liked Clay during his season, but I was a Reuben fan.

Well-
Music Again, Pick U Up and Aftermath are rock, even if light rock.
Sure Fire Winners is rock mixed with electronics
Strut and Whataya are rock-pop
Soaked is rock-operaish

And so- while I agree that the general direction is pop, it still doesn’t mean he can’t be considered a rock star on some level.

But it’s true- they should just name a new genre after him so we don’t have to argue about, lol… “Adam Star”…

adam will never be abandoned by his fans. hel gonna gain more ventually. adam is very lovable.he is so transparent.dats makes him more adorable.. such a poppyy!!!!!!!!

dats nice mr.. i think der r dfferent classifications of rock right? and adam is just heading on one kind of it which is glam rock or pop rock so to speak, so basically it still rock? maybe the argument would only be how you define rock, and wat is rock for u? wat would be rock for me would not be for u?>maybe thats it.. watver u call it, adam is just a really a rock star on his own definition. so some pipol should chill out coz its not dat deep!!!

http://bit.ly/2sroXw adam is so fierce and so stunning!!!!

Hello people!!! The AI fans have already left the building!!! Hasn’t everyone seen the sales figures for Idols singles??? Kris and Adam may have sold 1m songs when Idol ended but where are the fans that bought those because they sure aren’t flocking to Itunes now

Uhm, believe it or not, not everyone in the world buys from I-tunes. I, for one, don’t waste my money on singles when I’m going to be buying the entire CD. It makes no sense.

In Clay’s case alot of his fans abandoned him after he came out of the closet.

That is sad and depressing, to abandon him when really needed the support sucks.

That is not the only reason his fans deserted him.

dab- that’s what I thought but I don’t follow the radio stations that much- that’s the other huge station right?

That is sad and depressing, to abandon him when really needed the support sucks.

I liked Clay during his season, but I was a Reuben fan.

Me too. I don’t blame Clay for not coming out of the closet, but his fans were in MAJOR denial about him being gay, and denied it right up until the very end. Alot of the problem was that some of the fans were die hard Christians, and you know how that goes.

Studio57 From what I found Scott Thompson is PLJ 95.5 and Elvis Duran is Z100. And yes, they are the two BIG players in NY. Good stuff. The only thing I wasn’t sure of is that I think he is on both shows on Tuesday. Maybe they are close together? or it is a phone thing? IDK.

I can’t figure out what part of the song he is singing at 0:38. Is that the very last part of the song?

I haven’t read the whole thread but dab1234, the WPLJ morning dj’s are Scott Shannon and Todd Petingil (I’m sure that’s spelled wrong). And yes, Elvis Duran is mornings on Z100.

late to post…but just watching the vid…I only wish that Adam wasn’t wearing a trench coat as I would like to really see some of his body movements and hoping the emphasis is on him and just quick blips of the visual S&M dancers.

As far as the AMA Sunday night, Im soooooo excited. Can’t wait to see what he is wearing! bring that outstanding vocals ADAM…

Some of you mentioned that you arleady have his CD…Did you pick them up in the store?. I have pre-ordered and have been notified they are shipped but as of now, not received so I guess I head out to Walmart Saturday just to get a hard copy. I can’t wait for the mail!!!

Someone needs to tell the designer about steampunk. It’s not a new concept. Steampunk with rhinestones. Also been done.

Well, seriously, there aren’t a whole heck of a lot of pop shows/videos that feature totally new imagery that’s never been seen before (I grant you that there are a few). And it seems especially when you’re talking about a new artist, who hasn’t developed a full-fledged singular stage identity yet and who didn’t even know this performance would happen six weeks ago, it’s very unlikely that designers are going to be able to come up with something completely new. … And maybe they wouldn’t even want to. The artist is new, so maybe it’s actually just as well to have the imagery be something people have seen before and are comfortable with. You don’t necessarily get very far with a *pop* crowd by giving them total avant garde. (I take that back — I think you get nowhere in pop with total avant garde, actually!)

Anyway, steampunk is cool-looking, and I, for one, really like looking at some steampunk from time to time. And it suits Adam.

Azerbaijan radio is playing Adam…LOL. I don’t listen to local radio (djs do not speak english but do play both local and international music). My husband heard TFM while driving. Maybe I need to start listening!

From the LA Times blog:

What does he think of the chance-taking on his first studio album? ‘I think I straddled the line between commercial and esoteric. I think the album’s eclecticism is the big risk I took.’ 

I have to say, while I don’t always agree with Adam’s take on everything, every single thing I’ve seen from him that comments on his album, his career, and music, show business, and how both entertainment and creativity work seems right on the money, to me. His high level of professionalism just oozes out of him in conversation about his career. I think it may actually be a good thing that it took him a while to become prominent; at this point, he has a really solid understanding of who he is as an entertainer and how the whole thing works.

O/T – it’s funny to see the popularity bars for the different songs on the Take One album. People must be going through and picking and choosing songs rather than buying the whole album.

But I think leashes and collars, if there are any in the video, or in other similar videos, are degrading and going too far.

Well, the thing is, this is a form of sexual imagery and play that turns a lot of people off. I realize that, and I’m sure Adam does as well.

However, it turns a very very very large number of people on. I have a feeling you’d be quite surprised at the very mainstream people, including nice Christian housewives in small midwestern towns, who like this kind of thing as a form of sexual/romantic *play.* And with Adam, it’s pretty clearly play — with roles, power exchanging, fantasy thrills, and such. It’s pretty clear to me that, in his mind, none of this has anything to do with actual violence or subordination of anybody’s will or misuse of power. And, really, it’s not all that different from the kind of vampire/werewolf imagery you see in something like the Twilight series and movies. The aura of power and darkness is really quite similar. And we all know how popular that is.

As you mentioned, we really aren’t talking about any disdain for women here, as you do see in some rap stuff. It’s too bad that some folks actually do feel very upset by this imagery, but I guess if one is among that group all you can really do is not watch it, and try to understand that for a lot of people some imagery of darkness and power is a really huge romantic turn-on and involves the thrill of role playing rather than actual subjugation.

I don’t know if this has already been mentioned, but I heard Elvis Duran on Z-100 this morning announce that Adam will be on their show Tuesday!!!

I’ve seen a couple of people mention he is performing second. Is that a fact or just a rumor?

Didn’t this rumor get started because he was named second in some press release that included a partial list of the performers? … I think somebody mentioned that being the second person named in a press release was a pretty big indication that he was considered a major draw …. and then that somehow morphed into the idea that he would *perform* second, over the course of the conversation. But nobody’s ever said he would perform second. As others have said, they’ll have to put this later in the evening.

Ooops – I see now I’m way late!

The definition of the word “Rockstar” has clearly evolved to mean much more than a person who sings one narrow genre of music.

A “Rockstar” is a person in any field whose status as a proven performer is unqualified and dependable, and who carries themselves (whether as a lawyer, writer, Indian Chief, or entertainer) with a style uniquely their own. Often eccentric and charismatic, they are first and foremost masters of their craft- all the rest is showmanship. Gerry Spence is a Rockstar Lawyer, Hunter Thompson was Rockstar Writer, Sitting Bull was a Rockstar Indian Chief.
Adam is a Rockstar Entertainer.

Other videos have s/m imagery, leather gear, etc. Didn’t Madonna do a whole video full of those images 10 or 15 years ago? It’s not exactly new subject matter. It’s just new for a guy. I could see Britney Spears doing the exact same video/AMA performance. Of course what works for Britney, Madonna, Gaga won’t always be a sure fire hit for Adam.

I too have watched this show and been obsessed with it since the end of season 1. The only ‘old timers’  who don’t notice the HUGE difference between Clay, Taylor and Adam are the ones who have a different horse in the race.

Clay and Taylor had rabid, rabid fan bases. That was it. They did NOT have the media behind them like they do for Adam. In Taylor’s case he had weak material for his album and his management pretty much hung him out to dry.

Exactly.

Other videos have s/m imagery, leather gear, etc. Didn’t Madonna do a whole video full of those images 10 or 15 years ago? It’s not exactly new subject matter. It’s just new for a guy. I could see Britney Spears doing the exact same video/AMA performance. Of course what works for Britney, Madonna, Gaga won’t always work for Adam. That’s the issue here.

True. At this point neither we — nor Adam — have any idea what will actually work for Adam. (nor for Kris, Allison, Danny, etc., either, of course). It’ll be interesting to see what works and what doesn’t. Adam has a pretty big bag of tricks, however, and is very very thoughtful and savvy about show business. So I expect that — if he actually does have the goods to be a very popular artist — over time he’ll evolve something that will work for him.

As you mentioned, we really aren’t talking about any disdain for women here,

Yes, it’s not like it’s “SMELL THE GLOVE” by Spinal Tap. Wish I could find a longer clip with more of Fran Dresher. Here is the gist of the cover from Wiki

In the mockumentary, the original cover featured “a greased, naked woman on all fours with a dog collar around her neck and a leash, and a man’s arm extended out…holding on to the leash and pushing a black glove in her face to sniff it.”

Which of course lead to the record company refusing the release the album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xF5TeHf5QQ&feature=PlayList&p=5BFF245C9E835B38&index=20

Speaking of naked women/men on leashes being led around, bisexuality, whips, canes, S/M here’s Madonna’s video for Erotica (actually I think this was too hot for MTV at the time). Sorry for the not great video quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5LZRUZoVDc&translated=1

Some discussion on Adam’s AMA performance seems to lean to exactly comparing it to the recording. We all know Adam will change up his live performance, his video performance and the studio recording to tailor fit the occasion and the audience.
No fear – Adam has always said live he is at his best and visually he is always stunning and whenever he brings that vocal to a live performance he brings it all out – the live AMAs will have longer glory notes and show his style to to a T.
It’s all happening!

It’s all happening!

Yes it IS all happening and it seems to be happening just as he hoped planned it. I am really stoked for Sunday and for everything else that follows. He may not steal the show from the more experienced, seasoned performers (with bigger budgets?), but I’m pretty certain his performance will be riveting. And that’s the key word – “performance”. Am I into S&M personally? No lol. But as part of Adam’s performance? Bring it on.

Btw – I love Cabaret and love the dark, 30′s, sexy atmosphere of Berlin that permeates the show. If Adam’s video has that feel I will love it.

jpfan
11/20/2009 at 9:26 am
Speaking of naked women/men on leashes being led around, bisexuality, whips, canes, S/M here’s Madonna’s video for Erotica

Thanks, jpfan. When FYE first came out and people were worrying about the potential content of the video, “Erotica” was one of the first ones that came to mind – and I stated as much here on the blog. One that seemed to push the limits further (at least to me as a teenager at the time) was Eurythmics “Missionary Man.” The imagery is certainly not new. And there will be people that are uncomfortable with it. And there will be many others that will find it titilating and exciting.

Adam can be all things to all people in terms of the interpretive styling of his vocals, BUT he can only physically be one thing at a time. At the AMAs he will be over-the-top, Zodiac Adam roaring out of the gate to show his stuff to those that haven’t experienced him before. On Wednesday at GMA (and thereafter), he will have more time to show other sides. But at the AMAs he’s out to brand himself, as I’ve speculated before. This is a big moment for him and he knows how he wants to play it. It will either work or not. But it will get everyone talking. That’s how Madonna started (and continued) her career.

Good for Adam going out there and doing what he wants to do but I hope it doesn’t cost him some all important AI fans to buy the CD he put his heart and soul into.</

Both Adam and Kris need to build a bigger fanbase than just the American Idol fans. We have seen in their recent single sales that the AI fans cannot support them totally alone. They both need to attract fans from outside the AI bubble. Adam is trying to do that. If he loses a few AI fans along the way, so be it. Adam has been telling us all along what he wanted to do with his music. When I first heard the cd, I wasn’t surprised by it at all. As for the S&M, well it fits in with FYE. I doubt that you will see Adam doing S&M for songs like WYWM or any of the other ballads on his cd. IMO Adam will become very versatile about his performances.

A ‘Rockstar’  is a person in any field whose status as a proven performer is unqualified and dependable

has the performance via sales and airplay of ”tfm”, ”fye” and ”wwfm”, all releases attributed to adam post idol, really been enough to foist this moniker on him? i would assume one would also need to have built up, over time like the examples you cited, an auditable and verifiable body of work to substantiate and validate this designation… by that definition, adam still needs to put in the work and build up a body of some in the industry to give this credence, and a measure of credibility… jmo.

1) I don’t think Adam is performing anywhere close to second on the AMA show — he said in an interview that he has a really good seat and plans to watch as much of the show as possible until he has to go get ready — so I presume he is performing during the 2d half of the show, 2) I suspect that Adam will be doing tons and tons of press and radio interviews on Tuesday the 24th….he is in NYC and they likely have him booked all day long for interviews

“ya…yep…YEP…that’s hot…i love it.” lol

i hope he doesnt lip sync at all.

has the performance via sales and airplay of ‘ tfm’ , ‘ fye’  and ‘ wwfm’ , all releases attributed to adam post idol, really been enough to foist this moniker on him? i would assume one would also need to have built up, over time like the examples you cited, an auditable and verifiable body of work to substantiate and validate this designation’ ¦

Via sales and airplay of ‘ tfm’ , ‘ fye’  and ‘ wwfm’ ?
Of course not.
But Youtube can easily provide you the “auditable and verifiable body of work” you require. I feel very secure in calling him fully seasoned, proven, and 100% dependable as a live performer.

To quote someone ‘nobody puts Glammy in a corner’ ¦’ 

K first of all I’m scared of the person you’re quoting. ‘Glammy?’  Adam isn’t a freakin hamster.

This is from way upthread, but the “Nobody puts Glammy in a corner…” is a cultural reference to Dirty Dancing: “Nobody puts Baby in a corner” and refers to society’s efforts to box someone in, trying to force them to conform. Therefore it’s a good fit for Adam because nobody, including the AI fans or the Out magazine editor, can expect him to conform to their rules.

The AI fans who didn’t go on the internet and see the pre Idol pictures and the videos may not like the post Idol Adam, but he is the same as he was pre Idol, just more famous. Many AI fans will move on, but if Adam played to that crowd alone he would wind up doing covers in Las Vegas sooner than later. This is his shot and he has to go for the brass ring. I don’t expect to like everything he does, but I think I will like most of it so I hope his gamble pays off.

But Youtube can easily provide you the ‘auditable and verifiable body of work’  you require. I feel very secure in calling him fully seasoned, proven, and 100% dependable as a live performer.

using this same method of you tube verification as our model, taylor hicks also qualifies then, as pre and post idol he is given credit for being a seasoned, proven and dependable ”live” performer – but who with a straight face can honestly call him a ”rockstar”, lolol… as always, everyone’s mmv, but i’m old school when adding that label to any artist – the performance aspect, as well as the data generated via airplay, sales etc over a period of time has to be both factored into the equation… like the overused term ”superstar”, the term has begun to lose its cachet and power when the standards for rewarding it become so blurred and easy to attain… i’m not from missouri, but you have to show me you got the goods, over the long haul, before bestowing those terms….

“”"However, it turns a very very very large number of people on. I have a feeling you’d be quite surprised at the very mainstream people, including nice Christian housewives in small midwestern towns, who like this kind of thing as a form of sexual/romantic *play.* And with Adam, it’s pretty clearly play ‘” with “”"

I am not surprised that nice Christian housewives like this kind of thing, have you ever seen Christian Rock videos? Talk about out there and over the top!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml7O8Tfc_PA

ggdoorsfan
11/20/2009 at 11:07 am

So when has an Artist proven himself? When a single sells platinum, when an album sells gold, when they are asked to speak at a conference or have moderate financial success on a tour?

Everyone measures success differently…I look at success as the legacy you leave when the great one calls, other’s may look at success as even getting a recording contract and asking to perform in front of millions on a TV show.

So when has an Artist proven himself? When a single sells platinum, when an album sells gold, when they are asked to speak at a conference or have moderate financial success on a tour?

Everyone measures success differently’ ¦I look at success as the legacy you leave when the great one calls, other’s may look at success as even getting a recording contract and asking to perform in front of millions on a TV show.

your use of the word legacy is key for me – a body of work, over a period of time that helps lend credence to its designation upon an artist… ”success” is a highly relative/subjective term, and everyone’s standards for it will naturally vary… i may not have been around as long as some who have really followed pop and rock music, and studied its history, but i’ve studied it, and been around long enough to have seen my fair share of artists receive much the same ”superstar, rockstar” hype, and never live up to it – does terence trent d’arby ring any bells? i’m just saying that to foist the designation of such lofty terms as ”superstar”, ”rockstar” etc. onto any new artist entering the music business, before there are quantifiable standards to help measure and back up the claim is premature, at best… and for many, the cachet and real meaning behind the terms gets rendered almost irrelevant from its perpetual overuse …

my fair share of artists receive much the same ”superstar, rockstar’  hype, and never live up to it ‘“ does terence trent d’arby ring any bells?

Well, he’s kind of a superstar to me, lol. … Love Terence Trent D’Arby. As Yet Unwritten just came up on my Ipod this morning, and, wow, I love Terence Trent D’Arby…

Otherwise, though, I think you make a good point!

Well, he’s kind of a superstar to me, lol. ‘ ¦ Love Terence Trent D’Arby. As Yet Unwritten just came up on my Ipod this morning, and, wow, I love Terence Trent D’Arby’ ¦

i loved his album ”the hardline according to terence trent d’arby” so much… the media and he conspired to fashion himself into the ”next prince”, the next ”superstar of superstars” after michael jackson… massive press and hype… giving him his props – dude was ferociously talented – he was, but after a short while, it became evident the media hype and d’arby’s own hubris and unchecked ego soured him on the music buying public and the industry – and he has never quite recovered from a career that began as a roaring thunderclap, and ended with a whimper… i still like his music, but his is still a very relevant and cautionary tale for those inclined to ”believe the hype”…

I liked Terence Trent Darby but he never had the hype that Adam had, not even close and comparing him to Lambert is hilarious

This gives me a vibe of the Merovingian party that Morpheous, Trinity, and Serif crash in Matrix Revolutions.

Please don’t lipsync.

I liked Terence Trent Darby but he never had the hype that Adam had, not even close and comparing him to Lambert is hilarious

ymmv, but i remember that he did… remember this as well… those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. let’s meet back in a year, and compare