Soundscan numbers are in for the Top 10, via Billboard:

– 1. Susan Boyle ‘“ I Dreamed A Dream ‘“ 701K (700,779 (lw 632) Total – 701,411)
2 2. Andrea BocelliMy Christmas ‘“ 218K (18%)
– 3. Adam Lambert ‘“ For Your Entertainment ‘“ 198K (198,466 (lw 437) Total 198,903)
– 4. RihannaRated R ‘“ 181K
– 5. Lady Gaga ‘“ Fame Monster (EP) ‘“ 174K
34 6. Lady Gaga ‘“ Fame ‘“ 151K (429%)
29 7. Miley Cyrus ‘“ Time of Our Lives ‘“ 150K (385%)
10 8. Taylor Swift ‘“ Fearless ‘“ 125K (48%)
9   9. Carrie Underwood ‘“ Play On ‘“ 124K (123,870 (44%; lw 86,218) Total: 656,342)
3   10. Norah JonesFall – 110K (-39%)
11 31. Kris Allen – Kris Allen – 33K (Total 112K)

We managed to get precise Soundscan numbers for Adam and Carrie. For more sales numbers goodness, make sure to check out Kirsten’s Sales post HERE. She’s gathering the week’s Idol airplay and download numbers, so make sure to check in throughout the day.

I said this yesterday in the Hits thread, but it I’ll say it again–despite not selling over the predicted 200K, Adam’s debut numbers are still excellent. Coming in at #3 on the BB200 competing with a host of heavy hitters is impressive.

And Carrie? Play On is doing quite nicely. Congrats to her.   Susan Boyle’s monster numbers are incomprehensible.

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  • k0ka

    As a fan of Idol show, it disappoints to see UK reality show star at #1, while domestic reality show star can’t even sell 200K.

  • koshka

    Happy with those numbers… the most important thing is that Adam’s #s are higher than Miley. ;) I would have died a little inside if that hadn’t happened. LOL

  • Truthiness

    Damn SuBo is a MONSTER! 701K? That’s bananas.

    Oh and congrats to Carrie. Another excellent week for her, and a few weeks out. Her drop, or lack thereof, is impressive.

  • suebrody

    Congrats to Adam and Carrie! I think nearly 200K sold for Adam is terrific, considering, as you say, the competition (he beat out Rhianna, despite her getting an A- review from EW, I believe, and GaGa! Shocked!). And Carrie’s album and single are doing really well. I said this earlier today, but I thought Adam looked sad on Ellen yesterday, and I hope this really makes him feel that he had a very successful week, with more success to come. Hopefully, we can leave the AMAs and GMA behind, get back to his music (the single Music Again, as well WWFM, have taken on additional significance this past week).

    People said SuBo would do well, but this is insane! Let’s see if she is a flash in the pan or continues to sell well in the future.

  • Tara

    Congratulations Adam. I still wish you platinum.

    How much time do I have to wish for this? Is there a time limit on it? Like if you want recognition for going platinum is has to be within a year??? or is it just the life of the CD?

  • Pam

    Wow at SuBo! Just Wow! That is indeed an accomplishment! Seeing how well Carrie is doing is another wow too! I wouldn’t be surprised if Carrre ended up with platinum sales by the end of the year at the rate she is currently selling.

  • gangreen29

    How much time do I have to wish for this? Is there a time limit on it? Like if you want recognition for going platinum is has to be within a year??? or is it just the life of the CD?

    The life of the CD

  • sleepyinsomniac

    Oooh and SuBo’s still holding strong in itunes.

  • dab1234

    suebrody Hi again. I thought Adam looked sad, too (on Ellen). Broke my heart. Anyway, the numbers are good and this list is great, congrats to all !!! I was also glad to see some promo scheduled for Adam. That should get things rolling.

  • Tara

    Thank you gangreen, i just tried researching it with little result.

    I am definitely wishing him platinum then. Within a year though, I am impatient.

  • Liiv21

    Yeah, it’s a shame that the winner of that talent show didn’t even sell over 200k :(

    Oh, wait….

  • mmb

    Well, if you combine FYE and. Take One, adam did sell over 200K albums this week. LOL/JK (kinda). Seriously, who is buying Take One? Were people confused?

  • CrazyCircle

    I would like to know how the Oprah effect boosted Andrea Bocelli’s CD since her show aired…I don’t remember his CD even being in the conversation last week!
    Hope Adam’s continues to sell!!!

  • aa618892

    HaHa! Love this tweet from Jim C. Just how close did he get to Adam?

    jambajim BIG congrats to @adamlambert for a debut as giant as the Glambulge. (I can’t believe I just wrote that.) He even topped Lady Gaga! (snicker)
    15 minutes ago from web

  • dhunken

    I said this yesterday in the Hits thread, but it I’ll say it again’“despite not selling over the predicted 200K, Adam’s debut numbers are still excellent. Coming in at #3 on the BB200 competing with a host of heavy hitters is impressive.

    My thoughts exactly MJ but being you have been involved with this sales numbers and chart position thing much longer then me, and this is your blog, it validates (for me) the happiness I feel with these impressive numbers by Adam. Congrats to the anomaly that is Susan Boyle. Yeah for Carrie!!!!…I predict even better sales for her after her Christmas special. I think she will break 1million in sales by Christmas. IMHO

  • abbysee

    I said this yesterday in the Hits thread, but it I’ll say it again’“despite not selling over the predicted 200K, Adam’s debut numbers are still excellent. Coming in at #3 on the BB200 competing with a host of heavy hitters is impressive.

    What mj said!

  • cher

    That’s great for Adam in the wake of all that controversy. He “killed” WWFM on Ellen yesterday. The emotion!! Wow!! Amazing. Congrats to SuBo. Happy for her. She’s had a hard life. Deserves it.

  • abbysee

    ambajim BIG congrats to @adamlambert for a debut as giant as the Glambulge. (I can’t believe I just wrote that.) He even topped Lady Gaga! (snicker)

    Oh Jim! Rofl!!!

  • dyg1

    Adam’s debut numbers are still excellent. Coming in at #3 on the BB200 competing with a host of heavy hitters is impressive.

    Totally agree with you MJ.

    Adam is number 1 in pop! Congratulations Adam!

    Not bad at all for the runner up. What were the first week sales for the winner? 80? Let ´s see 198 – 80 = 118

    As I said, not bad at all :-)

    As an Adam fan I am extremely happy!!!!!!!!

  • revcat

    Does Carrie U. write some of her own songs?

    The only track I have of hers is Jesus Take the Wheel. I love her singing in that song, and no I’m not particularly religious.

    I can’t stand that song Cowboy Casanova and I wish she would stop losing weight, I know none of my business, but she’s starting to look like a scarecrow. Same with Lady Gaga.

  • eclipse coming

    Regarding the Ellen show and looking a little sad, I think in looking back and sharing what his dad said to him after the AMA’s, “Adam, maybe you should apologize”, and also how ABC had faith that he would close the show as planned, has touched his soul with some remorse, as we all know he is a good guy. It really was a learning experience that had to do in looking at the whole picture with integrity and separating out the high emotions from living in the moment and becoming a little defensive to giving more loving, honest assessment of the experience itself and going from there. I was glad to see that the essence of Adam is still alive and well. Love him.

  • smellycat

    That’s amazing Adam scored the 2nd highest debut of 2009!!!! Wow!

  • fusion8

    Carrie have an impressive week.

    but Taylor selling more than Carrie is alot more impressive.

    and how about Gaga occupying #5 and #6? if you add her numbers, she is at #2.

    Adam have a great 1st week. not so good 2nd week for Kris. and im wishing Allison the best of luck, though her album seems to be the best(IMO) among the 3.

  • saga

    It’ll be interesting to see what Adam will do with his FYE music video. I am not really sure how VEVO will work.

    When was the UK version of FYE supposed to be released? Wasn’t it in December? I am looking forward to hearing Voodoo. Wonder if he’ll be doing any promo in Europe?

  • leilamaurizia

    Does Carrie U. write some of her own songs?

    She co-wrote more than half the songs on her newest album– 7 out of 13, including the first 2 singles: Cowboy Casanova and Temporary Home.

    She co-wrote 4 songs on her sophomore album, including 3 of the singles: So Small, All-American Girl and Last Name.

    She had one co-write on her debut album.

    An article in the most recent edition of Country Aircheck Weekly, an industry magazine, mentioned that radio pays around $1 million in royalties for a #1 country song. Considering that 4 of Carrie’s co-writes reached #1, methinks she’s not doing too shabby when it comes to even mechanical royalties for singles alone.

  • suebrody

    Yep, dab1234. I wanted to cry last night (okay, I did). I watched his interview a few times, and he just looked sadder and sadder as it went on, especially when Ellen mentioned his dad and he said that he had suggested Adam apologize (we already know from CBS Morning Show that his mom had been shocked about his performance). I don’t know if Adam had pressure from RCA/19 to back down or he made that call, but he definitely seemed defeated and even tweeted Ellen to thank her for her support. So this news (Billboard tweeted it to him and he has received a lot of congrats since) must have made him feel terrific. I think the PR will help–can’t wait to see what he does on Vevo–but I really do hope people can start really focusing on his music again (heh). And to me, 198K is certainly close enough to 200K, and with WWFM picking up a number of radio adds this week, the album should remain viable for a while.

    I love me some Jim. He has been so supportive of the Idols, especially Kradison (lots of Allison tweets the past day, and he is still sick), and that makes me happy.

    Yay 198K times for Adam.

  • smartalek

    I’m concerned about the numbers b/c I don’t understand what happens from here. If all of the AI fans of a contestant, (e.g. of Adam, Kris, or Allison) buy in the first week, then who buys in later weeks? How do any of the idol albums that don’t really make it a la Daughtry, Carrie, and Kelly ever go platinum?

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Adam has the second-highest selling album by a new artist for 2009 – topped only by SuBo.

    SuBo is a phenomenon the likes of which we’ll never see, again. I don’t think even Simon Cowell saw this coming. There’s no marketing plan in the world that could have done this, which makes it all the more impressive. Good for her! It’s nice to see a fairytale finish to her story.

  • Lulu2

    Susan Boyle sounds like a safe, all-purpose Christmas gift. Can you imagine giving an Adam Lambert CD to your grandmother?

  • GaGaGlambert

    jambajim BIG congrats to @adamlambert for a debut as giant as the Glambulge. (I can’t believe I just wrote that.) He even topped Lady Gaga! (snicker)

    ROFLMAO! Well, that sure puts things into perspective! Mmmm…gonna go watch tour version of WLL and celebrate:) Happy day, Adam!

  • lucy

    Susan Boyle sounds like a safe, all-purpose Christmas gift. Can you imagine giving an Adam Lambert CD to your grandmother?

    My mom is 90, and she can’t stand Susan Boyle and hopes that her birthday present in 2010 can be tickets to an Adam Lambert concert. …

    I expect she *may* be the exception to the rule…. But I don’t actually think that Boyle’s fans are as age-segregated as all that. I think she is appealing to certain feelings that can exist in folks of any age, actually.

  • mmb

    Really – adam has the second highest debut this year? Fantastic!!!! And I’ll say it again,hooray, Adam sold over 200K albums this week (FYE (198K)and the bastard stepchild Take One 6K) I am also surprised that he has sold over 100K fye singles, not bad.

  • Pixie Baker

    Lucy, I sure hope my grand kids see this…..this gramma would love another copy for her car! ;)

  • lucy

    I’m concerned about the numbers b/c I don’t understand what happens from here. If all of the AI fans of a contestant, (e.g. of Adam, Kris, or Allison) buy in the first week, then who buys in later weeks?

    Hardly anybody, in many cases.

    But people who get to gold or platinum from their less-than-huge AI starts do it with repeated exposure of their music to audiences beyond idol (or to idol people who weren’t convinced to buy in the first go-round, also, I guess.) Radio play, tours, tv and movie appearances, and other stuff have attracted extra fans to lots of idols.

    But going platinum and even going gold are a much rarer occurrence today in the music industry overall, too, especially in youth-oriented genres like pop, where a lot of idols are located. There, you probably have to be like Jordin and have a good long string of high-charting radio singles. …. And it’s not clear that that will work any more, either.

    Basically, you’ve gotta catch lightning in a bottle. … Somehow.

  • dyg1

    Can you imagine giving an Adam Lambert CD to your grandmother?

    My mother, who is a great grandmother, wants Adam’s CD. She says she is old (84) but that she still has good taste :-)

    She does not like SuBo, in general, she prefers male singers.

    So, Adam’s CD for my mom!!!

  • crazylady

    On another thread from last night, I read that Adam’s mini concert on Jimmy Kimmel may have been cancelled as it is no longer listed under “Events” on AO. Anyone know if there’s any truth to this? Isn’t Kimmel on ABC? Oh dear….

    suebrody - can you tweet Jimmy Kimmel and find out? Thanks.

  • koshka

    Really ‘“ adam has the second highest debut this year? Fantastic!!!! And I’ll say it again,hooray, Adam sold over 200K albums this week (FYE (198K)and the bastard stepchild Take One 6K) I am also surprised that he has sold over 100K fye singles, not bad.

    No.. Adam is the 19th highest seller in 2009, but there are still a few weeks to go in 2009. I will say that it is pretty crowded (and a long list) below him. Someone posted a Sales Chart for 2009 on IDF. It was amazing to see big names with low sales. The music industry seriously took a hit this year.

  • dab1234

    suebrody
    I don’t know if Adam had pressure from RCA/19 to back down or he made that call, but he definitely seemed defeated and even tweeted Ellen to thank her for her support.

    I am pretty sure he got pressure from RCA. The noted change in his attire for Ellen indicated to me that someone is ‘suggesting’ how he gets out of this. Sad, but whatever works. At the end when they hugged each other I felt that Adam was ‘hanging on to her for support’. He has shown he can be quite emotional (Come Home and I Can’t Make you Love Me). I think that was the point he was at right at the end of the interview. Just hope that was the beginning of his bounce back to being himself.

  • woohookitty

    Boyle’s numbers are not incomprehensible. There has always been a market for her kind of music. Neil Diamond had a high debut recently. Barbra Streisand still debuts very high with her releases. The market for pop standards will never go away.

  • Sunshinegirl

    How many total albums has Kris sold?

  • mmb

    Koshka- I think someone stated above that he had the second highest sales for a debut artist (subo having the artist). I think the 19th refers to first week sales of an album – which is also great.

  • koshka

    I’m sure it is a little of RCA, but from his interviews.. he repeatably states that he is hardest on himself. After a week, he probably sees things differently. I know he caught alot of heat for sounding defensive, but personally I think it was a natural reaction. Sometimes we forget that these guys (kris, danny and allison) are just people that can have gut reactions. None the less.. this too shall pass.

  • 4evrmomof4

    aa618892,

    As we know from numerous pics, Jim did not have to get all that close to appreciate the Glambulge (I just became a grandma for the first time on Friday and can’t believe I just wrote that!)

  • koshka

    mmb
    12/02/2009 at 12:15 pm
    Koshka- I think someone stated above that he had the second highest sales for a debut artist (subo having the artist). I think the 19th refers to first week sales of an album ‘“ which is also great.

    You mean debuting new artist. Ahhh got ya.

  • dyg1

    I want Adam in Europe, please, come here. I will fly to any country in Europe to see you!!!!!

    Go Adam!!!! The future is ahead of you. That’s what’s important now.

    I can’t stop listening to the album. No favorites yet, all are my favorites. What an album. Amazingly Awesome!!!!

  • bmms

    Oooh and SuBo’s still holding strong in itunes.

    Yeah, and she’s holding strong at Amazon as well, she has the #1 spot on the bestsellers list. I congratulate her. And ofcourse I’m thrilled for Adam. I’m a little sad that he’s just shy of hitting the 200K mark. Congrats to the Glambert. ;-)

  • revcat

    100,000 singles sold for FYE is not bad at all since the “invested” fans like me bought the CD rather than the single.

    Regarding Adam on Ellen: Going through a whirlwind of events and then coming back to one’s home turf might have given him more time to think, but I saw calm, thoughtful Adam, not “sad” Adam. This is a good thing because maybe, just maybe he was getting a little carried away with “show business” and needed to focus more on the “business” part. It’s all part of the learning curve.

  • LCT

    On a different note, does anyone know if the nominations have been announced? We are hoping that David Cook gets a nomination. He had a fantastic year in album sales and platinum awards. It was very disappointing to us Archie fans that he was overlooked in the AMA and the music video awards! There seemed to be a lot of buzz for AI 8 and in all fairness David Cook (AI7) had an incredible year! David would be so happy for him! So what makes our David happy – makes us happy! Good luck Cookie!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    No.. Adam is the 19th highest seller in 2009, but there are still a few weeks to go in 2009.

    #2 for new artist’s debut in 2009. :) He’s in the Top 20 with SuBo and a bunch of heavy hitters. Pretty impressive.

  • 4evrmomof4

    there is a grammy nomination concert tonite at 9 pm eastern

  • bmms

    100,000 singles sold for FYE is not bad at all since the ‘invested’  fans like me bought the CD rather than the single.

    Me too!

    Regarding Adam on Ellen: Going through a whirlwind of events and then coming back to one’s home turf might have given him more time to think, but I saw calm, thoughtful Adam, not ‘sad’  Adam. This is a good thing because maybe, just maybe he was getting a little carried away with ‘show business’  and needs to focus on the ‘business’  part which is smart.

    Agree! I also saw humble Adam.

  • 4evrmomof4

    this is kind of exciting fro an IDF member:

    Adamcast just tweeted that Adam is bringing a special gift to the Hard Rock in San Diego tomorrow Dec. 3 at 3 pm!
    Can someone who know how to copy a tweet post it here? You can win backstage passes if you retweet. Is he bringing the tour jacket????

  • GaGaGlambert

    Can you imagine giving an Adam Lambert CD to your grandmother?

    Absolutely, I can! SuBo’s not every senior’s cuppa. Enjoying Adam’s voice and handsome, sexy self is not restricted to any age group. Suggesting otherwise is Ageism. Sadz. It’s another form of discrimination no different than sexism.

  • FifthHouseSun

    Koshka- I think someone stated above that he had the second highest sales for a debut artist (subo having the artist).

    Yes, mmb, Adam and SuBo are the only two new artists in the top 20 first week sales for 2009. The rest are established artists.

    And only 19 other artists period had higher debuts this year.

    This means Adam Lambert had the highest ranking debut for any new Pop artist in 2009.

    No other new Pop artist releasing an album in 2009 debuted higher.

    Adam’s debut, placed into the current market conditions perspective, is spectacular. No other brand new Pop artist did better their first week.

    Established artists everywhere would like to be seeing his kinds of numbers.

  • ALYESKA2

    Hey Lucy, don’t be too sure your mom is an exception to the rule. I have a dear that is in her 70′s and is a die-hard fan/supporter of Adam’s. She collects his pictures and went to the A.I. concert in Portland! His music transcends gender, and age confindes. Like his music, his audiences are varied. Not too shabby to come in #2 as a new aritist and #3 against the top ten heavy weights after so much negetive response to his AMA performance. I myself, am proud of him for taking the “punch” and trying to move on in the right direction. Those that love and support him will cheer him on and those that are his detractors will continue to try and bury him. He’s strong, he’s smart, he will endure this (probably won’t be the last time he will be heavily criticized for one thing or another) but he will survive and do well. Adam, we have your back covered! :0)

  • pat

    I feel sorry for Adam. I followed him from AI and saw him on the tour. I was just so shocked at his performance on AI and just can’t get beyond it. Have not bought his CD even though I had planned to do so. The angry look on his face at the end of the performance along with the finger at the audience and camera was so OTT. I was not bothered at all by the kiss, but pulling the dancer to his crotch and his gyrations bothered me. I am not homophobic or a fanatic Christian, so don’t call me names. His face looked strange too, rather reddish and puffy. Made me wonder if he went back to using cocaine which he said he used in 2006. He said he would never use cocaine again because of how it effected him for days after. Something was so different about hm. Just can’t figure it out. It seems that some followers of Adam overlook anything bad. That is what gets some celebrities in trouble. The fans just don’t call them out on the bizarre things they sometimes do. I just don’t think the Adam we saw on AI is the real Adam. He said himself when he decided to go on AI he planned to be nice and responsible. Something has definitely changed about him. Yes, he kind of seemed like the old Adam on Ellen, but who is the real Adam anyway. The guy on the AMAs or the guy on Ellen. I am praying it is not drugs again and if so, hope his family and friends will intervene.

  • uglyduck

    mmb got it right,if we combine the sales of FYE and Take One, Adam has sold more than 200k :)
    As for who’s buying Take One? My friend bought Take One and FYE from Amazon, she doesn’t live in US and she doesn’t follow everynews about Adam, but she really likes his voice and performance from AI so she just bought both albums. She has no idea whatsoever that the ‘first’ album is not really Adam’s album…

  • suebrody

    pat, I think Adam wanted to go big (nothing to do w/ drugs or anything other than a “moment”). He took the lyrics to the song literally (personally, I do not think that was a good first choice for a single), and admits he got caught up in the moment, especially after watching GaGa. RCA is now putting out WWFM as his current single, I believe. If you look at him on Ellen, he was extremely articulate (same w/ his interview on the Morning Show). I think it was a learning moment, nothing more, and if ppl decide not to buy his album based on the AMAs, that is, IMO, unfortunate but certainly has and will happen.

  • FifthHouseSun

    So, pat, possibly you missed the 50 charming, articulate, insightful, brilliant, adorable, funny and very, very sober interviews Adam did last week. The hugs with his Mom? YouTube is your friend for Sure Fire Winner accuracy on what a remarkable, kind, interesting man he is.

  • 4evrmomof4

    this is cool:

    http://twitpic.com/rtjt6

    – Gulf News Dubai – Cover Story on Adam Lambert See http://bit.ly/5IR7iU-

    Wow, they must have been at CBS Early Show ,if they took this pic

  • 4evrmomof4

    Top Bing search again today:

    derrika2408 What’s Up Today: Cyber Monday, New Moon Movie, Tim Tebow, NFL, Adam Lambert, Bing @ http://aclnk.com/ar2441182 half a minute ago from API

  • IdolThoughts

    On another thread from last night, I read that Adam’s mini concert on Jimmy Kimmel may have been cancelled as it is no longer listed under ‘Events’  on AO. Anyone know if there’s any truth to this? Isn’t Kimmel on ABC? Oh dear’ ¦.

    Lie to me. This isn’t true is it? I just got my tickets on Kimmel’s website. This could make or break my day.

    Okay…I’m in a Cook mood. Sue me.

  • PattyH

    At the end when they hugged each other I felt that Adam was ‘hanging on to her for support’.

    The hug was great but he one arm hugged her at first and didn’t add the second arm until she started hugging for so long. I think Adam is fine emotionally about the whole AMA thing. He knows he may have mistepped but he is owning it and I love that about him.

    Since they added the Kimmel appearance and concert after the AMA mess, I really doubt this concert will be cancelled. Anyway, it won’t be live so ABC should have no problem with it.

  • suebrody

    I like the idea of humble Adam than mournful/sorrowful Adam. I kind of saw both, honestly. He dressed about as low-key as I’ve ever seen in an interview (and looked attractive, BTW, but seems to be getting *very* thin). He sounded terrific on stage with his band; their chemistry grows with every performance (he already had one with Monte Pittman, his band mate in Citizen Vein). I expect the album to continue to sell well. As for Take One…no, thanks.

    This tweet:

    SusieFierce

    @suebrody1 No, Kimmel is happening by every account other than it’s not on AO. They’re probably just updating. I have confirmed tix.

    So, it looks good: AO is updating its site right now.

  • HotHotHot

    Great news for Adam!

    This means Adam Lambert had the highest ranking debut for any new Pop artist in 2009.

    The buzz is good, and the album is staying up on iTunes and Amazon!
    It’s all good!!!

  • alaadam

    The angry look on his face at the end of the performance along with the finger at the audience and camera was so OTT. I was not bothered at all by the kiss, but pulling the dancer to his crotch and his gyrations bothered me. I am not homophobic or a fanatic Christian, so don’t call me names. His face looked strange too, rather reddish and puffy. Made me wonder if he went back to using cocaine which he said he used in 2006.

    Sorry I didn’t see the finger on tv. Mine must have been edited out or something. I saw a picture of it but not in the performance. Cocaine doesn’t cause you to get red and puffy in the face-lol. But, if one performance causes you to not buy his album, 200,000 other people took up the slack.

  • http://www.planetfierce.proboards.com/ yeahmusicagain

    Holy young canines and refracted arcs of light, Adam!

  • 4evrmomof4

    the finger at the end of the performance never made national tv, it only showed up afterwards in Getty Images photos. I am east coast and it was unedited-finger was not there

  • saga

    Wasn’t Monte to be interviewed by AInow?

  • GaGaGlambert

    The noted change in his attire for Ellen indicated to me that someone is ‘suggesting’ how he gets out of this.

    My interpretation of his attire was to keep it as close to what he wore on Idol as possible. If that’s how tv audiences remember him, so be it’ ¦for now. It’s easy to forget that not everyone saw him on tour or frequents YouTube. (Seeing him on tour 3 times was just so much fun for me.) Actually, I thought his tie on “Ellen” might be the one he wore on the AMAs, but not sure. I’m confident Adam’s going to be just fine. I have twenty-something-year-old offspring and they are resilient. So is he. No sadz for him today, only joy for all his accomplishments.

  • aa618892

    suebrody-glad to see you back, missed you. You voiced so many of my own sentiments in your posts (so I didn’t have to, LOL!)

  • suebrody

    aa618892 Thank you. 8)
    saga: That is what AI Now tweeted, and asked for questions. Don’t know the date however, but I will ask…

  • unique28v

    Since they added the Kimmel appearance and concert after the AMA mess, I really doubt this concert will be cancelled. Anyway, it won’t be live so ABC should have no problem with it.

    Its not?? I thought they showed one of the songs from the concert on the show??

  • dab1234

    Ok, I am not worried about Adam. He will and is bouncing back. I just thought he looked a little defeated on Ellen. Am sure he will be successful, just…… nvm….

  • 4evrmomof4

    anyone interested:

    _hellodolly so i might have an extra ticket to the adam lambert concert for a jimmy kimmel taping on dec 17th. anyone interested? 3 minutes ago from Digsby

  • saga

    anyone interested:

    _hellodolly so i might have an extra ticket to the adam lambert concert for a jimmy kimmel taping on dec 17th. anyone interested? 3 minutes ago from Digsby

    Are they already sold out?

  • GaGaGlambert

    the finger …never made national tv, it only showed up afterwards in Getty Images photos. I am east coast and it was unedited-finger was not there

    I’m east coast, too, definitely never shown on broadcast.

  • 4evrmomof4

    boy, are the View peeps obsessed with Adam:

    alreference Joy Behar talks with Barry Manilow about the controversy surrounding Adam Lambert’s performance at the AMAs: http://bit.ly/5kYXqC 2 minutes ago from web

  • IdolThoughts

    anyone interested:

    _hellodolly so i might have an extra ticket to the adam lambert concert for a jimmy kimmel taping on dec 17th. anyone interested? 3 minutes ago from Digsby

    Tickets are also still available online off of Kimmel’s website.

  • mmb

    4evermomof4 – what did Barry M say?

  • claudette

    Like Adam said, I think the adrenaline got the best of him. His compared AMA performance to the Idol Black and White performance which was “angry” too.

    No, he’s admitted he made poor judgment and spoke at length to anyone that will listen. He sat in the audience a long time before he performed on the AMA’s and they kept building up his performance. The pressure must have been immense.

    I”m think most decent people will give him a break on this one. But, I still think his sales numbers are very disappointing. I would have expected him to have matched Cook’s at the very least. I don’t see him selling a lot this week which could mean trouble. At least Kris is getting out there singing at the concerts and radio is playing his song. I think Adam is in trouble, and for that I feel really bad for him.

  • 4evrmomof4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5Xtp1bjVY

    I couldnt hear the audio in work–

  • IdolThoughts

    4evermomof4 ‘“ what did Barry M say?

    He doesn’t seem to think it was inappropriate for GMA, but he thought that Adam missed a great opportunity to showcase his voice. He kind of brushed off the controversy and emphasized that it would have been better, that HE would have been more satisfied if Adam had blown the roof off the place with his voice.

  • 4evrmomof4

    jianghomeshi Confirmed: Adam Lambert joins me tmrw morn on Q. American Idol dreamboy w/ elastic vocal sound/controversial performer & eyeliner hound. 5 minutes ago from web

    here is twitter bio:# Bio Broadcaster. Writer. Musician. Producer. Manager. Mammal. (in that order, for now)

  • GaGaGlambert

    talks with Barry Manilow about the controversy surrounding Adam Lambert’s performance at the AMAs

    LOL…Manilow worked with Bette Midler in the early days – talk about OTT! Love you, Barry, for saying ‘I don’t give a shit’ ¦care. I just wanted him to sing a great song.’ 

  • Mary102

    The hug was great but he one arm hugged her at first and didn’t add the second arm until she started hugging for so long. I think Adam is fine emotionally about the whole AMA thing. He knows he may have mistepped but he is owning it and I love that about him.

    Yeah, I’m not getting the “sad” Adam on Ellen thing myself. He did seem very much at peace with everything, calm, articulate, humble, yes, and smart. Nothing sad or defeated about it at all imo.

    And I agree about the hug – I saw Ellen hanging on to him longer, and Adam then returning the favor – great moment, with her just showing him more love and support (which was echoed in her comments earlier on the show, about how he was so talented and deserved all the success, despite any momentary “scandals”, etc.)

  • crazylady

    suebrody
    12/02/2009 at 12:45 pm

    This tweet:

    SusieFierce

    @suebrody1 No, Kimmel is happening by every account other than it’s not on AO. They’re probably just updating. I have confirmed tix.

    So, it looks good: AO is updating its site right now.

    Thanks, suebrody. When SusieFierce says “I have confirmed tix” does she mean that she re-confirmed them so she knows for sure that Adam’s still booked. Just wondering where she’s getting her info. Thanks again for the help!

  • lorismile

    The Kimmel concert was listed on AO again this morning.

    I’m so friggin’ happy for Adam today! And want to thank him for giving us an incredible CD to listen to. Bravo!

  • mmb

    I don’t see how anyone could characterize Adam’s career as being in “trouble”. He is the second biggest debut artist of the year, he has sold over 200K albums, he is #3 on the BB chart,he is in the top 20 of first week sales for the year, he has probably sold around 200K combined of his various new singles (TfM,FYE,WWFM)over a relatively short period,WWFM is being well received by radio and got 30 some odd adds this week; FYE continues to get at least some radio play and has a great video;he has been on letterman, ellen, the early show and soon conan and kimmel, he will be on Rockin NY eve (hopefully), he is on magazine covers, tv shows etc. Any recording artist today would be more than happy to be in such trouble!

  • revcat

    pat: Though some on the board may not agree with you, your statements were heartfelt and sincere and I am sure a lot of others who don’t post or don’t read here would agree with you.

    We all know the music business is dog eat dog and offending a lot of people straight out of the AI gate was not a good business model. Pat wasn’t the only one offended, there were many. I personally wasn’t offended, but neither did I like it. IMHO Adam can still be sexy as hell without the extra theatrics so it’s fine with me as long as his spirit remains intact.

    Like it or not, being a gay male is one of the last taboos. When I was growing up it was considered very wrong to have sex out of marriage, have a baby out of wedlock, get divorced and live with or even vacation with your lover before marriage, and nobody ever even thought about singing I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It. All of these “taboos” have gone by the wayside. The
    religious people who make it their own personal crusade to fight “sin” in an effort to “save America” are doing their best to make sure this last “taboo” remains just that. They honestly think the fate of the country is at stake. And they were none too happy about an openly gay man being appointed to high office at ABC. They were watching this particular executive for signs of being “too gay friendly” – just waiting to pounce and pounce they did. Adam just happened to be the bait.

  • 4evrmomof4

    This 3 page article is freakin’ awesome-thoughtful, I don’t agree with all points made, but very valid ones-well worth reading:

    http://blogcritics.org/music/article/how-do-you-solve-a-problem/

    And, yes I tweeted it to Adam (boy, I am so friggin’ hopeless)

  • crazylady

    lorismile
    12/02/2009 at 1:24 pm
    The Kimmel concert was listed on AO again this morning.

    Thanks…but I literally JUST checked AO (12:33 CST) and it’s not listed. Very strange and a little worrisome.

    I found the phone number for the website selling the Kimmel tickets and I’m going to call them this afternoon and see what they can tell me.

  • 4evrmomof4

    love Bette in her day, I remember when she first ‘flashed’ her audience and she only became a bigger star after that!

  • SpenserJ

    No need to panic for all of you ticket holders – I highly doubt Adam booked and then un-booked Kimmel in a single day, all the while Kimmel’s site was happily selling tickets LOL.

    I’m amused that the ladies of the View now think they need to ask every guest who’s ever recorded a song what they thought of Adam’s AMA performance. Did they cut a secret deal to give Adam a week’s worth of free promo?

  • becausehelives

    yayy for Adam he got 3,000 more than the stats yesterday and people were sure it wld be lower. good job. it must feel good to beat all the more established female stars.
    I wonder if subo can comprehend what’s happening here.

  • 4evrmomof4

    Can’t wait for Adam to be on the View (I may even be tempted to take ‘personal time’ from work that day to see it)

    He will charm every last one of those ladies…

  • suebrody

    My supervisor (not an Adam fan, loves Carrie) came over to tell me how “poorly” Adam had done this week (distant second to SuBo, what did Carrie’s first album sell, blah blah blah). I said for him to worry about it. If Adam only sells a few thousand copies this coming week, then worry. I think his appearances on Ellen and other network programs will also help a lot. But I agree w/ others: the climate is different than it was when Carrie won (why he was comparing them is beyond me, anyway)–we are in a recession–and if Adam could do this well after a “debacle” (not my term, others) on the AMAs, then look how well he’ll do in a calmer week!

    I still contend that it is about the music, and I hope people give the album a chance (well, he sold 198K, so I guess *some* people did!). I think that the singles will help the album sales, b/c TfM, FYE, and WWFM are so diverse that it would not surprise me if someone heard at least two of these and was curious about what Adam had included on the album. It really reflects Adam’s MO on Idol, and that is what is so intriguing. Some critics (e.g., Rolling Stone) said he had too many collaborators and not enough cohesiveness. I disagree–there are so many different kinds of genres b/c he and his fans like that he can sing them. The Boston Globe said that Allison’s album didn’t sound as if songs had been thrown against the wall to see if any would stick. Again, I disagree (same implication as RS). They are just different kinds of albums, as is Kris’s. They all work for different reasons.

  • FifthHouseSun

    mmb, Loving those stats.

    And isn’t this the stats thread? The box scores? The cold, hard numbers?

    In all of recession-ridden 2009, stack up the debut week numbers, see the top 20, and find there are exactly 2 new artists. Two.

    One is SuBo. The other is Adam Lambert.

    No other brand-new Pop Rock artist debuted higher this year than Adam Lambert. Top-debuting new Pop/Rock artist. What an achievement!

    Oh, and 2009 is yet another whack another 13% off total music sales year.

    (Though if SuBo goes on QVC again, that could change.)

  • jumpstart

    Susan Boyle’s monster numbers are incomprehensible.

    Yeah, congrats to her but I don’t get it.

  • saga

    I’m amused that the ladies of the View now think they need to ask every guest who’s ever recorded a song what they thought of Adam’s AMA performance. Did they cut a secret deal to give Adam a week’s worth of free promo?

    Maybe they are running a secret game to see how many celebs they can rally for and against?

  • 4evrmomof4

    GLAMFAN82 VH1 Super Exclusives: 5 Questions – Adam Lambert http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbce5o 1 minute ago from web

  • 4evrmomof4

    Fascinating:

    Adam is still #3 Top Tag on ET

    TOP TAGS

    1. tiger woods
    2. dancing with the stars
    3. adam lambert
    4. the biggest loser
    5. donny osmond
    6. real housewives
    7. Tareq and Michaele Salahi
    8. barack obama
    9. tareq salahi
    10. elin woods

  • 4evrmomof4

    saga,

    I really think that the media is incredibly fascinated with Adam and will continue to talk about him for a very, very, long time

  • mmb

    A big THANK YOU to Tiger Woods for taking the heat off of Adam with a juicy scandal of his own…..

  • dhunken

    Found this listing of Adam’s upcoming appearances:

    And, quite obviously, he makes for great television. Predictability is boring. Adam will next be appearing on December 7 on LOGO’s NewNowNextPopLab; December 9 on the Barbara Walters Special, ABC; Larry King Live, December 15, CNN; The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, December 15, NBC; Jimmy Kimmel Live, December 18, ABC; Dick Clark’s Rockin’ New Year’s Eve with Ryan Seacrest, December 31; and the People’s Choice Awards, January 6.

  • SpenserJ

    Maybe they are running a secret game to see how many celebs they can rally for and against?

    Maybe it’s like a drinking game and they’re all getting good and liquored up after the tapings.

    A big THANK YOU to Tiger Woods for taking the heat off of Adam with a juicy scandal of his own’ ¦..

    This one has given my husband and I endless entertainment. We’ve got a bet going on which club Tiger’s wife actually used to beat the shit out of his car. We’re pretty disappointed that no one has found out yet.

    Although at first, my son was despondent that Tiger may have been seriously injured in the “car accident”. It’s been hard to reassure him that he’s fine, plus avoid having him hear any of the juicy details. He’s only 8 and Tiger is his #2 hero (second only to Tim Tebow of course).

  • suebrody

    Thanks, dhunken! And it doesn’t include the ADL benefit to honor Stephen Spielberg (not that it necessarily would, unless it’s being taped).

    Is he presenting at the People’s Choice Awards or performing? Kris was also nominated for Breakout Musical Artist of the year. Another was GaGa. I bet Subo wins. ;)

  • raka

    YAY SUCH WONDERFUL NUMBERS! GO ADAM! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL ADAM FANS TOO! WE ALL KNEW HE COULD DO IT AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING…and to think last year he was a chorus boy hoping to make it to idol top ten…god what a ride!

  • BeckyMD

    And, quite obviously, he makes for great television. Predictability is boring. Adam will next be appearing on December 7 on LOGO’s NewNowNextPopLab; December 9 on the Barbara Walters Special, ABC; Larry King Live, December 15, CNN; The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, December 15, NBC; Jimmy Kimmel Live, December 18, ABC; Dick Clark’s Rockin’ New Year’s Eve with Ryan Seacrest, December 31; and the People’s Choice Awards, January 6.

    What are we supposed to do between 12/18 and 12/31?

  • SpenserJ

    What are we supposed to do between 12/18 and 12/31?

    I heard there’s a pretty big holiday in between there. (Something having to do with that guy who takes the wheel of Carrie Underwood’s car :) )

    That’s an interesting appearance list. So, Adam will appear on LKL and Kimmel the same night? That should work well as I don’t think those two have to much of a crossover audience LOL.

  • lovemymatthew

    WHAT ? WHAT? Adam the GREAT only got 198K? how can that be? He is the GREATEST, THE 2ND COMING, THE ROCK GAWD? THE GREAT ONE?
    Should there be a demand for a RECOUNT? When and where is the riot?

  • dhunken

    SpenserJ
    12/02/2009 at 2:07 pm

    What are we supposed to do between 12/18 and 12/31?

    I heard there’s a pretty big holiday in between there. (Something having to do with that guy who takes the wheel of Carrie Underwood’s car :) )

    You guys are killing me…… :lol:

  • dhunken

    lovemymatthew
    12/02/2009 at 2:09 pm

    WHAT ? WHAT? Adam the GREAT only got 198K? how can that be? He is the GREATEST, THE 2ND COMING, THE ROCK GAWD? THE GREAT ONE?
    Should the be a demand for a RECOUNT? When and where is the riot?

    Well I don’t know about he 2nd coming but he is the #2 best selling debut artist this year so far. (behind the anomaly that is Susan Boyle). Your hyperbole is hysterical. But I believe all Adam fans are extremely satisfied with the sales numbers so sorry to disappoint you but I do hear that The Rhianna fans are breaking SuBo records in protest so you are more then welcome to ignite the fire under them. ;-)

  • lucy

    I think Adam is in trouble, and for that I feel really bad for him.

    Well, even if he tanks from here on in, at least he’s sold very nearly 200,000 albums….Thousands and thousands of musicians never ever get to say that. I don’t think anybody needs to pity him, really!

  • 4evrmomof4

    what we can do between 12/18 and 12/31 is to troll the gossip sites to see who is stalking him, I guess and get our Adam fix in THOSE youtube vids

  • 4evrmomof4

    He’s bringing his KISSS outfit to the Hard Rock:

    RT allisonpr: AllisonPR brings Adam Lambert and his famous KISS outfit to @HardRockSD Thursday at 3pm

  • suebrody

    According to the myspace email from Adam (well, whoever maintains his myspace blog), he will also be on Leno. THIS I did not know and is thus unconfirmed.

    Billboard wants to know who you would like to see get a Grammy nomination. ;)

    Jews like Adam and I don’t know what to do between the 19th and the 31st. Okay, *he* does. I just have to work. :)

    ETA: 4evrmomof4, how do you get all of this Twitter information re: Adam? I just tweet people. ;)

  • lucy

    We all know the music business is dog eat dog and offending a lot of people straight out of the AI gate was not a good business model.

    Actually, I think a lot of quite famous and well-off entertainers have started off offending everyone right out of the gate and have kept on offending them throughout their long careers! ….

    It’s not what we’ve come to expect from somebody right off of American Idol, and thus, I guess, the consternation — but in the entertainment industry — and the arts — generally, offending a lot of folks from the start and over and over again has quite effectively put a good roof over the heads of many entertainers.

  • Mary102

    Is he presenting at the People’s Choice Awards or performing? Kris was also nominated for Breakout Musical Artist of the year. Another was GaGa. I bet Subo wins.

    Lol – was she even nominated? I’d bet she’d win even if she wasn’t nominated ;-)

  • 4evrmomof4

    YA THINK???!!!

    @HardRockSD: Adam Lambert has A LOT of die hard fans! We will begin notifying Backstage Pass winners SOON! Thank you! 9 minutes ago from web

  • saga

    According to the myspace email from Adam (well, whoever maintains his myspace blog), he will also be on Leno. THIS I did not know and is thus unconfirmed.

    Date?

  • 4evrmomof4

    this cracked me up!!!!

    DonaldWoo @bitterasiandude Hey, don’t lump me into the Twilight crowd. It’s bad enough the Mrs. listens to Adam Lambert. 9 minutes ago from Twitterrific

  • 4evrmomof4

    I have 2 twitter screens set up monitoring both @adamlmabert and Adam Labert searchs Every tweet that comes in with his name is group together until I am able to review them…

    I am so stinkin’ hopelessly obsessed!!!

  • suebrody

    Yep: Music Breakout Artist:

    Adam Lambert
    Demi Lovato (HUH?)
    Kris Allen
    Lady GaGa
    SuBo

    I thought GaGa would take it, but now I’m not so sure…

    You can vote by going to peopleschoice.com

    ETA: No date given, saga. I am skeptical. Then again, no dates given for other appearances, like Kimmel. The blog kinda sucks.

  • BeckyMD

    He’s bringing his KISSS outfit to the Hard Rock:

    RT allisonpr: AllisonPR brings Adam Lambert and his famous KISS outfit to @HardRockSD Thursday at 3pm

    omg that’s my fav outfit of his!!! Is he bringing his *boots* as well?

  • realvivi

    jambajim:Are Adam Lambert and Howie Mandel sharing a stylist? Zoinks! http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/12/02/adam-lambert-howie-mandel/

    HAHAHA

  • 4evrmomof4

    I did check my Facebook account ot see if message about the Jay Leno appearance and YES, I get Adam Lambert messages on my Facebook wall, along with my friends and family.

    My adult kids now say, guess he is one of the family now, we have to share our mom with him!!!

    And , no the Facebook latest message is the celebration of his sales #’s, not about Jay Leno

  • aa618892

    Well I don’t know about he 2nd coming but he is the #2 best selling debut artist this year so far. (behind the anomaly that is Susan Boyle). Your hyperbole is hysterical. But I believe all Adam fans are extremely satisfied with the sales numbers so sorry to disappoint you but I do hear that The Rhianna fans are breaking SuBo records in protest so you are more then welcome to ignite the fire under them.

    dhunken- good one!

  • 4evrmomof4

    hQ vids here:

    adamsmadams My page for all the Adam Lambert FYE Promo Performances, all in one place ‘ ¢ http://tinyurl.com/y9ggceo 3 minutes ago from web

  • BeckyMD

    According to the myspace email from Adam (well, whoever maintains his myspace blog), he will also be on Leno. THIS I did not know and is thus unconfirmed.

    It’s on RCA website too. No date tho.

    http://www.rcarecords.com/

  • 4evrmomof4

    so much for FYE being dead- VH1 is promoting his MV

    RT @VH1: VH1.com has Adam Lambert’s new music video for the song ‘For Your Entertainment’ http://su.pr/1pElw4 @adamlambert @fansofGlambert

  • tiger92

    jambajim BIG congrats to @adamlambert for a debut as giant as the Glambulge. (I can’t believe I just wrote that.) He even topped Lady Gaga! (snicker)

    Oh Jim…

    And lol at The VIEW ladies. Maybe it’s some kind of active campaign to get Adam on the show! If he IS going on Leno, what’s left? Regis and The View?

    Leno does a joke about the AMAs almost every night. It’s not disrespectful at all, though. Since Leno has switched to his new format, do musical guests ever give interviews?

  • carolinacharms

    First week is done. Better than I had predicted pre-AMAgate, but not as impressive as many fans had predicted. Next question is…does this thing have legs? Can he top 500, 600, 700K+ by this time next year? Anybody think he’ll go platinum?

  • LoveContinuum

    Decided to delete.

    Well done on 200k Adam. Rock star.

  • koshka

    And lol at The VIEW ladies. Maybe it’s some kind of active campaign to get Adam on the show! If he IS going on Leno, what’s left? Regis and The View?

    Nope.. Oprah – That would be the crowning jewel. Don’t know if it can or will happen though.

  • 4evrmomof4

    @globerts Adam Lambert already number 17 in South Africa 's “amazon” Kalahari.net http://www.kalahari.net/music/32979.aspx 2 minutes ago from web

    This is quite interesting

  • Q3

    I am thrilled with Adam’s numbers! #3 debut on Billboard 200, 198+K units sold, and high ratings everytime he shows up on TV.

    And FYE is still selling — current chart rankings:

    Amazon US: CD #13 headed up MP3 #24 headed down
    iTunes Delux: #38 music #9 pop
    iTunes Regular: #50 music #12 pop

    The album in selling in other countries: debuted #8 in New Zealand, #87 UK.

    The biggest surprises to me are the high % of CD’s vs. digital and the Walmart numbers. With only 38K digital — 19% of total sales — it was not 100,000 $3.99/$0.99 Amazon downloads. Plus for week 1 over 25% of units sold in Walmart — that is the biggest surprise to me.

    Finally, all of this is a good sign that when Adam fianlly tours that he will have good concert revenue numbers and that his upcoming merchandising has a good shot of making significant money. And that is where the biggest revenue opportunities are.

  • 4evrmomof4

    WOW, the Half glove on the single cover was custom and cost $3500 to make???

    http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2009/12/02/whats-up-with-adam-lamberts-for-your-entertainment-metal-half-glove/

  • BestAI

    And lol at The VIEW ladies. Maybe it’s some kind of active campaign to get Adam on the show! If he IS going on Leno, what’s left? Regis and The View?

    Nope.. Oprah ‘“ That would be the crowning jewel. Don’t know if it can or will happen though.

    When Barbara met Adam to interview him for her “Ten Most Fascinating People of 2009″, she asked him to go on The View. It’s up to his people.

    When Adam was skyped on Oprah’s show for about five minutes, she asked him three times if he was going on her show when his album comes out. She is definitely interested, so it is a matter of logistics.

  • 4evrmomof4

    Q3, that is awesome news- any other insight you can give us?

  • GaGaGlambert

    Since Leno has switched to his new format, do musical guests ever give interviews?

    Lady Gaga performed “Bad Romance” on Leno and then had a short sit down interview a week or two ago. If you watch the video, you’ll see that she almost had a costume malfunction.

  • JudyOhio

    I’m curious as to why Archuleta’s sales numbers haven’t been showing on HDD. Last week, he sold 18,000 and should have been #36 on HDD’s list but wasn’t. And now this week, Archuleta sold 21,000, and that would have put him and #49 on HDD’s list, but again, they didn’t show him there. Could he have accidentally been dropped from their data base?? Just wondered why he’s missing 2 weeks in a row when he should have been on that partiular list (the building sales one on HDD)

  • 4evrmomof4

    GaGaGlambert,

    after our awesome Early show experience, don’t ya wish we lived on West Coast so we could go to Conan, Jay Leno & Jimmy Kimmel?

  • lucy

    First week is done. Better than I had predicted pre-AMAgate, but not as impressive as many fans had predicted. Next question is’ ¦does this thing have legs? Can he top 500, 600, 700K+ by this time next year? Anybody think he’ll go platinum?

    Well, if he drops as I expect this week — by 75 to 80 percent, since last week included the black friday bump — he’ll still be nearly halfway to gold by the end of it. …. If you can get halfway to gold in two weeks, then several months of chugging can almost certainly get you there.

    And if the radio adds turn into actual radio *play* then I think the gold is more or less assured, and sooner rather than later ….

    I honestly don’t think *anybody’s* guaranteed platinum in the current environment, though, and while I believe that Adam has the goods to be quite popular with a nice swath of the American public, I believe that he may really be a bit of a niche product, so it all depends on how big or small that niche is. … His having lost the idol vote suggests that it may not be all that huge, to me.

    However, he’s getting pretty high numbers and a lot of attention in numerous countries around the world, too — when his album hasn’t been specifically promoted abroad much and isn’t available except as a download or an import — so he ought to be able to sell at least moderate numbers in *many* places, and they seem to be preparing for a pretty substantial rollout abroad next year. So I think he’ll absolutely get his million sales — but they’ll probably be spread out in different countries.

    I know that when I’ve said this before here a lot of people tell me that those international sales aren’t nearly as important as sales in the U.S., which is the market that everybody in the world covets and cares about! But, frankly, if I were a musician, I’d be more than happy to have a million people buying my album, no matter where they lived!

  • crazylady

    Here’s the article on RCA’s website (dated TODAY). No mention of Kimmel and I just checked AO’s “Events” listing and it’s still not listed there either.

    “12/2/2009 – ADAM LAMBERT’S ‘FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT’ DEBUTS AT #3
    (Los Angeles, CA – December 2nd, 2009) With his out-of-this-world vocal range and unique musical style, Adam Lambert’s album For Your Entertainment (19 Recordings/RCA) debut’s at #3 on the Billboard Charts with 198,469 albums sold.

    People Magazine proclaimed that “The season 8 runner-up wins the battle that really counts with a confident, I-know-who-I-am display of glam pop-rock.” Rolling Stone called For Your Entertainment, “Supercatchy glam rock with an electro-pop edge” and Spin Magazine said “…Lambert’s polymorphous vocal skills unite dancefloor strut and hard-rock pomp in a convincing glam package.”

    Millions of fans watched Lambert’s stunning performances on the eighth season of “American Idol” and have since been tuning in to see his spectacular televised performances.

    Moving into the holiday season, Adam will be performing “Whataya Want From Me” co-written by P!nk, along with Sweden’s Max Martin and Johan Shellback,on upcoming television programs such as The Tonight Show With Conan O’Brien and The Jay Leno Show. Additionally, Adam will be interviewed on Barbara Walter’s 10 Most Fascinating People. “

    If ABC cancels him from Kimmel and New Year’s Eve, I imagine they’ll get LOTS of phone calls, e-mails, etc.

  • 4evrmomof4

    is gold 500,000 and platinum in the US 1 mil?

  • GaGaGlambert

    “…after our awesome Early show experience, don’t ya wish we lived on West Coast so we could go to Conan, Jay Leno & Jimmy Kimmel?”

    4evrmomof4, Imma east coaster through and through. But why should living on the Atlantic edge of the map stop us from visiting the Pacific coast?

  • anovich

    Jews like Adam and I don’t know what to do between the 19th and the 31st. Okay, *he* does. I just have to work.

    That’s a pretty broad and I can tell you fom personal knowledge untrue statement. Most of the people in my circle of friends (and majority of us are Jewish) are not huge Adam fans. I don’t choose my music because of someone’s religious beliefs, just like I don’t choose my music because of sexuality or looks or any of those other types of things.

  • saga

    Most of the people in my circle of friends (and majority of us are Jewish) are not huge Adam fans.

    I think Suebrody just meant that she and Adam don’t celebrate christmas? Or did I misunderstand?

  • DLee

    I was just at Adam’s facebook page. He has 371,187 fans on fb. That means 171,187 people who have bothered to “friend” him haven’t bought the album yet! He should be OK in the next few weeks.

  • lucy

    is gold 500,000 and platinum in the US 1 mil?

    Yes.

  • dhunken

    Q3
    12/02/2009 at 2:55 pm

    I am thrilled with Adam’s numbers! #3 debut on Billboard 200, 198+K units sold, and high ratings everytime he shows up on TV.

    Q3 do you have the numbers for the CBS Early Show when he appeared. Did they have a boost in ratings because he was on it?

  • lucy

    I was just at Adam’s facebook page. He has 371,187 fans on fb. That means 171,187 people who have bothered to ‘friend’  him haven’t bought the album yet! He should be OK in the next few weeks.

    I hope that’s true, but it doesn’t seem to happen that way generally, either with idols or with other artists. ….

    The numbers for friends and twitter followers and viewers of Youtube videos, etc., are for most people way way higher than their album sales. I think a lot of those people are illegally downloading and filesharing or are following celebrities more for fame buzz and controversy or something than for music.

  • anovich

    19/Jive/JLG Idol contestant Allison Iraheta is the next-highest newcomer, in the 25-30k range for her label debut, Just Like You.

    HDD prediction for Allison. Why was there no marketing for her – this number is crazy low but after Kris’s number I’m not surprised

  • agathe.hb

    anovich, I think Suebrody just said that she, like Adam is Jewish :)

  • Mila

    That’s a pretty broad and I can tell you fom personal knowledge untrue statement. Most of the people in my circle of friends (and majority of us are Jewish) are not huge Adam fans. I don’t choose my music because of someone’s religious beliefs, just like I don’t choose my music because of sexuality or looks or any of those other types of things.

    I though she was just saying that she doesnt have anything to do because she doesnt celebrate christmas… I didnt understand your comment. Was she saying she likes adam because both are Jew? I am lost…

  • suebrody

    Most of the people in my circle of friends (and majority of us are Jewish) are not huge Adam fans.

    I think Suebrody just meant that she and Adam don’t celebrate christmas? Or did I misunderstand?

    Yep, exactly that, and I was kidding. I guess I don’t kid well. ;) (Well, I mean, we don’t celebrate it–Adam has said that–but…I bet he’ll be busy that whole time!)

  • Q3

    I have a theory for why Kris’ album isn’t selling very well. Perhaps the era of pop-rock singer-songwritters is fading a bit. John Meyer just made the list of biggest drops on the Billboard album chart from #1 [Source: Pulse Music Board]. This is the kind of thing that often happens when a genre is weak and only core fans are buying — like rock and Bon Jovi’s “The Circle” which had a similar drop a couple of weeks ago.

    Biggest Drops from #1

    2006 Light Grenades – Incubus 1-37 (1 to 40 on comprehensive)
    2003 The Golden Age Of Grotesque – Marilyn Manson 1-21
    2009 The Circle – Bon Jovi 1-19
    2006 INSPIRATION: THUG MOTIVATION – YOUNG JEEZY 1-18
    1999 The Fragile – Nine Inch Nails 1-16
    2007 Greatest Hits – Notorious BIG 1-15
    2000 Born Again – Notorious BIG 1-14
    2006 Doctor’s Advocate – The Game 1-13
    1974 Endless Summer – Beach Boys 1-13
    2003 Faceless – Godsmack 1-13
    2009 Battle Studies – John Mayer 1-13

    What a great sale week!

    This has been a dreary sale year for music — but for Thanksgiving week — in large part due to SuBo — music sales were actually up.

    SuBo, Bocelli, GaGa, Rihanna and Adam are all still selling — SuBo and Bocelli are particurly strong — so this week could be a good week too and Adam should become half-golden this week [over 250K total]. SuBo might hit 5 million total which is unbelievable.

    The final week of the this year, w/o 12/21 includes a Friday Christmas — which is about as good as the calendar gets for this critical sales week. Usually album sales are strong on Christmas week and with a 2-day Post-Christmas sale weekend it should be a really great week.

    Finally, SuBo has sold over 3 million worldwide her first week and is shattering almost every sales record from the past 20 years — and is not slowing down much. I think this may be a one-record wonder [like Peter Frampton] but better to see someone with some talent and a good story make it big — rather than Octomom, John and Kate, or Heidi Montag. Wonder if she will hire a chef for her cats!

  • Tess

    anovich
    12/02/2009 at 3:12 pm
    Jews like Adam and I don’t know what to do between the 19th and the 31st. Okay, *he* does. I just have to work.

    I think this quote was probably misread.

    It says: Jews, like Adam and me, don’t know what to do between the 19th and the 31st. [week when gentiles are celebrating Christmas]. Then the person goes on to say: that Adam knows what to do. The poster just has to work.

    Hope this explains it a little better, for you.

    eta…late to the party, but I’ll let the post stay.

  • GaGaGlambert

    …all of this is a good sign that when Adam fianlly tours that he will have good concert revenue numbers and that his upcoming merchandising has a good shot of making significant money.

    I’m ready to start contributing to that revenue stream as soon as tickets go on sale.

  • anovich

    suebrody, maybe I misread yiour statement but since I’m Jewish and NOT an Adam fan and I have a lot of friends who are the same it just didn’t compute properly in my head. Sorry for cunfusing everyone.

  • unique28v

    is gold 500,000 and platinum in the US 1 mil?

    Yes.

    When is Adam going on Jay Leno?

    Regarding the Barry Manilow discussion with Joy (The View) he is right. What was missing from the AMA performance was Adam’s voice. People are focusing too much on the performance aspect of it.

  • Lynne

    I am very happy with Adam’s record numbers! It makes me feel great to know that so many people are enjoying the same awesome music that I am! I can’t wait for Adam’s tour. I love the album, and I will love seeing him perform his music live!

  • Laury

    And album is considered platinum when it sells 1M dolars or 1M copies?

  • unique28v

    19/Jive/JLG Idol contestant Allison Iraheta is the next-highest newcomer, in the 25-30k range for her label debut, Just Like You.

    Wasn’t Jive predicting 75k?

  • 4evrmomof4
  • 4evrmomof4
  • suebrody

    so much for FYE being dead- VH1 is promoting his MV

    RT @VH1: VH1.com has Adam Lambert’s new music video for the song ‘For Your Entertainment’ http://su.pr/1pElw4 @adamlambert @fansofGlambert

    Well, that’s cool! I wonder who will win: FYE or WWFM. ;) (Interesting, b/c FYE isn’t getting as much airplay after the AMAs–wonder why, heh–as WWFM (or adds, anyway), but the video is starting to get airplay. Don’t know if VH-1 will give it much of a bump, but I assume *some* people still watch videos.)

    I would like a video for WWFM–I think it would be very minimalistic.

  • lucy

    And album is considered platinum when it sells 1M dolars or 1M copies?

    a million copies ….

    That is, a million copies have to be shipped to retailers, and then the retailers have to sell enough of those to customers for them to be sure that they’re not going to return any of the ones they ordered from teh record label. Once that’s happened, the label can ask to have the album certified platinum, even if not quite a million consumers have taken those copies home yet.

  • 4evrmomof4

    laughed my a** off

    kaydeesquee Dear Tiger: Thx 4 taking some heat offa me honey! I got in *so* much trubbs for just a pretend b=job. Sorry bout yr ride! – ADAM LAMBERT less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

  • realvivi

    nice photo!!

    http://www.autostraddle.com/autofocus-more-adam-lambert-21994/

    He’s beyond gorgeous <3<3

  • universal

    I was just at Adam’s facebook page. He has 371,187 fans on fb. That means 171,187 people who have bothered to ‘friend’  him haven’t bought the album yet!

    Not all of those 371,187 fans live in the US… ;)

  • smellycat

    Well I know for a fact that on adamofficial the date listed for Jimmy Kimmel was Dec. 17. I saw it with my two eyes. Now it’s gone! I have a feeling it was canceled just like NYE concert with Ryan will be because it’s airing on ABC. Fuck you ABC!!!!

  • Laury

    Thank you so much Lucy,

    Susan Boyle album is going to be platinum for sure.

    Sad but I think nether Adam nor Kris will have a Platinum album, maybe gold..

    well, I just want Adam sells enought to stay in the music bussiness for a long time, he is amazing.

  • 4evrmomof4

    universal,

    i am one of those facebook fans-I contributed!!!- I bought reg & deluxe cd and itunes deluxe….

  • Hazehel

    I have a theory for why Kris’ album isn’t selling very well. Perhaps the era of pop-rock singer-songwritters is fading a bit. John Meyer just made the list of biggest drops on the Billboard album chart from #1 [Source: Pulse Music Board]. This is the kind of thing that often happens when a genre is weak and only core fans are buying ‘” like rock and Bon Jovi’s ‘The Circle’  which had a similar drop a couple of weeks ago.

    Nice theory, but most of the initial sales of Kris can be predicted solely based on the size of his idol fanbase. He needs to reach outside of his idol fanbase to do well – he needs some more radioplay and promotion to do that. John Mayer’s album isn’t very good IMO (I only like a couple of the songs I heard from the album), which might be a better explanation of why it isn’t doing as well.

  • 4evrmomof4

    who’s gonna contact them?

    Fly923 Coming up just after 4pm…your chance at Adam Lambert’s new album, the Celeb Sleaze is coming up with the latest… http://bit.ly/7UgPQv half a minute ago from Facebook

  • dhunken

    4evrmomof4
    12/02/2009 at 3:40 pm

    laughed my a** off

    kaydeesquee Dear Tiger: Thx 4 taking some heat offa me honey! I got in *so* much trubbs for just a pretend b=job. Sorry bout yr ride! ‘“ ADAM LAMBERT less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

    ROTFLMAO…Oh just so you know people this is a joke Adam did not write it really but I love it.

  • ptslittlecomment

    Yep, exactly that, and I was kidding. I guess I don’t kid well. (Well, I mean, we don’t celebrate it’“Adam has said that’“but’ ¦I bet he’ll be busy that whole time!)

    We were just talking about the many famous Jews who have made successful Christmas albums last night, including Barbra Streisand, Neil Diamond, Barry Manilow, Kenny G., Bette Midler and now Bob Dylan. Some, like Babs and Art Garfunkel, have even recorded religious Christmas songs. Add to that the number of Jews who have written Christmas tunes ( Mel Torme, “The Christmas Song”, Irving Berlin, “White Christmas”, Johnny Marks, “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer”, Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree”) and you have a lot of people who follow the Jewish religion who stay busy around the holiday, even if its for a year or so to promote their work.

  • aa618892

    Jimmy Kimmel is still selling tickets. I think it is still on.

    http://www.1iota.com/showeventdetail.aspx?performanceid=4508#rectix

  • anovich

    19/Jive/JLG Idol contestant Allison Iraheta is the next-highest newcomer, in the 25-30k range for her label debut, Just Like You.

    Wasn’t Jive predicting 75k?

    I think that was before Kris came in at 80k – and the above predcition comes from HDD, not Jive. I dont think Allison is getting near that 75k prediction.

  • suebrody

    Regarding the Barry Manilow discussion with Joy (The View) he is right. What was missing from the AMA performance was Adam’s voice. People are focusing too much on the performance aspect of it.

    I couldn’t agree more. I don’t really care what he does if his voice sounds amazing. My supervisor (who is gay) told me the same thing: he wasn’t offended in the slightest by the performance, but felt that it was so busy that it affected Adam’s vocals. I think that, coupled with nerves (and maybe the acoustics, but only a bit) was what caused Adam to sound pitchy and off-key. Adam admitted this on Ellen yesterday. He was 100 percent candid, and I appreciated that.

    4evrmomof4, That reviewer thought Pick U Up was a throw-away. I actually like it quite a bit. But then again, the only songs I don’t really like are Music Again and Sure Fire Winners, which are more glammy (oh, and Down the Rabbit Hole–I really don’t like that one, but I love Master Plan and my favorite is also Broken Open).

    Yes, this was based on the comment about no Adam news during the middle of December, and ppl kidding that it was Christmas time:

    Adam and I are both Jewish, hence don’t celebrate Christmas
    I won’t have anything to do in particular during that time
    Adam most likely will have a gazillion things to do during that time, even if they are not on camera.

    Sometimes “jokes” don’t translate. ;)

    Anyway…I don’t think I have ever seen Adam look better (well, emo awesome) than he did on Ellen (and I compare that to Letterman, where he wasn’t amazing, and The Early Show, where he was very good). The more he and the band performer, the tighter they will become, and the more familiar he becomes with the song, which he didn’t write, the better and better it will sound, with him throwing in vocal nuances (which I catch, b/c I watch the performances over and over and also compare them to the album). He and Monte already had a rapport, but he and Tommy seem to be developing a nice one as well (Tommy’s tweets are pretty amusing). But I think WWFM also sounds great on the album, it just resonates more in performance.

    BTW, remember the interview on the Red Carpet for 2012 where the woman said something about him recording Christmas songs and he said, But I’m Jewish! And then he laughed. :)

  • universal

    universal,

    i am one of those facebook fans-I contributed!!!- I bought reg & deluxe cd and itunes deluxe’ ¦.

    Well, I’ve only bought the regular iTunes album (no deluxe version available to me :( ) And I’m waiting to see if they maybe perhaps will make the collector’s edition available in my country as well (as they sort of promised!).

    I just meant to say sorry, I’m one of those fb fans but I haven’t contributed to the US sales numbers :)

  • dyg1

    4evrmomof4
    12/02/2009 at 3:30 pm
    nice photo!!

    http://www.autostraddle.com/autofocus-more-adam-lambert-21994/

    WoW!!! These pics are awesome. No wonder they gave him the Autostraddle’s Sexiest Man of the Year Award. YESSSS!!!!!!!

  • suebrody

    Do you think all the Jingle Balls that Kris is doing will up his album’s sales? I also wonder how much live performances bump up sales.

  • MalwareDie

    Wasn’t Jive predicting 75k?

    My grandparents predict better than Jive. Jive has no idea what it’s doing. I expected about 30K and it’s just poor that Jive might not even be able to push Just Like You to 30K.

  • 4evrmomof4

    Ya think peeps are not still buying?

    mollylovesyooh itunes purchases of the day include: adam lambert, lady gaga, john mayer, sherwood and stars go dim. molly is ahappy panda right now. half a minute ago from web

  • 4evrmomof4

    http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2009/12/miley-cyrus-adam-lambert-golden-globes-news.html

    bad news, guys, no Oscars, but probably Golden Globes

    TFM was disqualifi3ed for Oscars not penned for film, but is on nominating list for Golden Globes

  • crazylady

    I just got off the phone with someone at http://www.1iota.com who is giving away the tickets for Jimmy Kimmel. He was surprised that I thought it might have been cancelled and he’s in charge of putting these things on their website. Anyway, he said this has been on the books for sometime and he has NOT been contacted about it being cancelled. I told him we were concerned about the ABC/AMA thing causing it to possibly be cancelled and he said he really didn’t think so, but he said let’s see what the next week brings. If it is cancelled, they (1iota) will send out an e-mail. In other words, it’s still a wait and see situation – at least IMO. ABC could just be getting around to figuring out everything Adam is scheduled for on their network and trying to figure out what to do. Wish there was someone at ABC to contact re: this and New Year’s Eve! Anyone have a phone number for ABC?

  • dhunken

    4evrmomof4
    12/02/2009 at 4:03 pm

    http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2009/12/miley-cyrus-adam-lambert-golden-globes-news.html

    bad news, guys, no Oscars, but probably Golden Globes

    TFM was disqualifi3ed for Oscars not penned for film, but is on nominating list for Golden Globes

    Ah-ha both Will and I can feel vindicated as we both got are predictions correct…..him saying it would not be eligible for Oscar and Me saying there was always the Golden Globes. Love you Foreign Press! (J/K Will) ;-)

  • PattyH

    But, Jimmy Kimmel isn’t broadcast live so I don’t see why ABC or anyone else is concerned about this show. Barbara Walters is still being advertsied too and that’s ABC.

  • lucy

    Susan Boyle album is going to be platinum for sure.

    Yep, in about a minute and a half from now, most likely!

  • LindaT

    crazylady
    12/02/2009 at 4:10 pm
    I just got off the phone with someone at http://www.1iota.com who is giving away the tickets for Jimmy Kimmel. He was surprised that I thought it might have been cancelled and he’s in charge of putting these things on their website. Anyway, he said this has been on the books for sometime and he has NOT been contacted about it being cancelled. I told him we were concerned about the ABC/AMA thing causing it to possibly be cancelled and he said he really didn’t think so, but he said let’s see what the next week brings.

    If ABC cancels Adam’s appearance on Kimmel, it would be a bit odd at this point. They did cancel GMA, but then they obviously approved the Barbara Walters’ special, which was taped after the AMAs. Kimmel is shown in the late night TV daypart (children will be protected!) and ABC can extract stronger terms from Adam (no FYE for sure!). I think it would be unlikely for ABC to cancel if they thought Adam will bring them ratings, but then again Adam’s career hasn’t exactly followed a predictable path so far. :)

  • lucy

    Do you think all the Jingle Balls that Kris is doing will up his album’s sales? I also wonder how much live performances bump up sales.

    i don’t think they do much directly — not enough people attend. But they will shore up his relationship with radio stations, which then may play him more. And if he gets solid radio play, that *will* help his sales.

  • luval

    I’ve heard Adam in interviews saying several times that he is not on facebook…only twitter….can someone enlighten me?

    Also, does anyone know…..cats or dogs…..boxers or briefs.

    I know…shallow.

  • clearone

    kaydeesquee Dear Tiger: Thx 4 taking some heat offa me honey! I got in *so* much trubbs for just a pretend b=job. Sorry bout yr ride! ‘“ ADAM LAMBERT less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

    Sorry I guess I have no sense of humour left but with Adam trying to get out of hole he’s in PRwise, I think this is in pretty bad taste to mock someone else’s troubles. I hope nobody really thinks that Adam wrote this.

  • Tess

    ABC and Adam…..GMA was a little slap on the wrist to Adam and a nice way for them to appease whomever got a burr under their saddle and let ABC know (and I’m talking about deep pockets here, not viewers). I think if ABC “bans” Adam from their network by way of refusing him access to late night shows and “interview” type shows they are opening themselves up to not only bad press, but legal problems.

    Personally, its getting a little old, all of the inuendo that Adam will never get over the “bru-ha-ha” of the AMAs. I really wouldn’t loose sleep over the idea that he might not get to do the things he has already been contractually designated to do. No Adam Lambert clause in existence, yet. Besides, isn’t Kimmel “late night”…no kids at that hour, right. Or do parents use the TV as a night light for their little ones?

  • universal

    I’ve heard Adam in interviews saying several times that he is not on facebook’ ¦only twitter’ ¦.can someone enlighten me?

    It’s not him personally on facebook, it’s sort of a fan page: news and information
    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/AdamLambert

  • fadetowhite

    Sad but I think nether Adam nor Kris will have a Platinum album, maybe gold..

    IMO, it’s too early to call that.

    I think Lambert’s, in particular, has a good chance of going platinum, because it’s got a lot of catchy, potential top 40 hits on it, which could sustain its sales.

    It depends on how things take off on the radio and, from what I’ve seen, they seem to be now moving in a positive direction.

  • Mila

    Sorry I guess I have no sense of humour left but with Adam trying to get out of hole he’s in PRwise, I think this is in pretty bad taste to mock someone else’s troubles. I hope nobody really thinks that Adam wrote this

    I dont think adam ever said that, its only a joke from fans, no?

  • SpenserJ

    The Kimmel thing is not cancelled. There’s no indication of that, just a fan created rumor that’s spreading like a game of telephone. Although if people keep calling the event organizers to tell them that it is, maybe it will be.

  • Tess

    Albums do not sell gold or platinum overnight. Sometimes it takes months or years, not days or weeks. In fact selling too heavily “up front” means that the Artist and the album isn’t growing legs and that there are other reasons rather than good music for the album to sell. I think this is what happened to John Mayer. The album sucks…and now that more people have heard it the word is getting round and the sales are stalling.

    Once the “front end loading” for an album settles down…the best scenario is for the album to continue with nice steady sales week in and week out. If someone can sell 10,000 albums a week for a year they go gold…20,000 platinum. That would be the absolute best type of sells…and that would keep an Artist in front of the public’s eye.

  • dhunken

    Mila
    12/02/2009 at 4:30 pm

    Sorry I guess I have no sense of humour left but with Adam trying to get out of hole he’s in PRwise, I think this is in pretty bad taste to mock someone else’s troubles. I hope nobody really thinks that Adam wrote this

    I dont think adam ever said that, its only a joke from fans, no?

    NO ADAM DID NOT SAY THIS AT ALL. It was from a twitter account that has nothing to do with Adam. I guess they thought it was funny. (on some level I did too) but this was not a twit from Adam.

  • 4evrmomof4

    The facebook fan site thing is updated regularly by his team- get messages all the time

    The Tiger Woods thing is a joke being twittered all day in various iterations, that one was just the latest version. No, not from Adam, not even from Adam fans, it look like other people having fun….

  • Mary102

    John Mayer’s album isn’t very good IMO (I only like a couple of the songs I heard from the album), which might be a better explanation of why it isn’t doing as well.

    Another thought, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t really follow John Mayer except as he’s portrayed in the media, but it seems he isn’t making a lot of new fans these days, in terms of his behavior (flings with every actress who breathes, etc.) All I seem to hear is how people are kinda sick of his antics.

  • 4evrmomof4

    BTW in case anyone is wondering about the Adam Facebook page, you can see it by clicking an icon on the fornt page of the Adam Official site

  • clearone

    Mila
    12/02/2009 at 4:30 pm

    Sorry I guess I have no sense of humour left but with Adam trying to get out of hole he’s in PRwise, I think this is in pretty bad taste to mock someone else’s troubles. I hope nobody really thinks that Adam wrote this

    I dont think adam ever said that, its only a joke from fans, no?

    NO ADAM DID NOT SAY THIS AT ALL. It was from a twitter account that has nothing to do with Adam. I guess they thought it was funny. (on some level I did too) but this was not a twit from Adam.

    Oh I never thought it was from Adam. I would never believe that he would mock someone else’s troubles this way. I guess nothing should shock me but it does that anyone would do something like this and attach his name to it thinking it was funny.

  • crazylady

    BestAI
    12/02/2009 at 2:56 pm
    And lol at The VIEW ladies. Maybe it’s some kind of active campaign to get Adam on the show! If he IS going on Leno, what’s left? Regis and The View?

    Nope.. Oprah ‘“ That would be the crowning jewel. Don’t know if it can or will happen though.

    When Barbara met Adam to interview him for her ‘Ten Most Fascinating People of 2009′ ³, she asked him to go on The View. It’s up to his people.

    When Adam was skyped on Oprah’s show for about five minutes, she asked him three times if he was going on her show when his album comes out. She is definitely interested, so it is a matter of logistics.

    Remember–Oprah’s invitation to come back was BEFORE the AMA’s; she might not be so anxious now. Would love to know her take on this.

    Re: Barbara Walter’s – what did they cover in the interview; how did you find out she invited him to be on The View?

    I still believe something’s up with the Kimmel thing. Between the RCA article today and it not being listed on his website anymore (of course, the New Year’s Eve gig isn’t listed either), I think something smells very bad–for both events!

    JMHO

  • Mary102

    I still believe something’s up with the Kimmel thing. Between the RCA article today and it not being listed on his website anymore (of course, the New Year’s Eve gig isn’t listed either), I think something smells very bad’“for both events!

    Wait, what RCA article? I think I missed this one.

  • LoveContinuum

    Luvul, Re: cats or dogs, well, we know he doesn’t like pussy.

  • Sherena

    What are Kris’ numbers for this week? And just curious, how do you get these numbers for the albums out of the Top 10?

  • crazylady

    Mary102 – you can go to my post at 3:08pm (on this thread) and read the article. It’s also on AO under “News”, I think!

  • mmb

    I wouldn’t read much into the fact that kimmel wasn’t mentioned in the rca press release. The purpose of that release was not to list evey single upcoming appearance and the tonight show and leno are both higher rated than kimmel

  • suebrody

    I have wondered about the NYE thing; has Ryan mentioned this on his show recently? Somehow, I think it’s more likely that Adam would be on Kimmel (less high profile, and a concert) than he would be on Rockin NYE (b/c it’s an Idol tie-in and I am not sure ABC wants an Idol tie-in right now). I hope I’m wrong about this, however.

    I hope Oprah would still like to Adam on her program. It wouldn’t be until at least sometime in January or February and it’s a syndicated program, right? (Thus, no ABC tie-in.) If she is still concerned, many weeks later, I’d be disappointed to say the least.

    BTW, AINow is going to interview Monte Pittman. They have already sent him the questions (per their tweet to me). That should be fun! Citizen Vein will definitely come up (that was my question; would they play songs from CV on the Tour).

  • crazylady

    That’s a good point, mmb. I think lots of us are super nervous about Adam having lots more appearances since the AMA fallout and since at least Kimmel WAS listed on AO and no longer is, just makes it easier to jump to conclusions. Time to calm down, huh?!

  • lorismile

    Kimmel is now listed on the AO page:

    http://www.adamofficial.com/us/events

    (well it was listed)

  • agathe.hb

    on the site where they give ticket to Jimmy Kimmel it’s now written Adam Lambert mini-concert cancelled????!!!!!

  • 4evrmomof4

    in the Slezak interview, he mentioned Barbara asked him to come on view during his fascinating people interview

  • DLee

    on the site where they give ticket to Jimmy Kimmel it’s now written Adam Lambert mini-concert cancelled????!!!!!

    Where’s the link?

  • lorismile

    Seriously guys….take a chill. If it is cancelled, it could be cancelled for a number of reasons and not because of AMA-ABC stuff!

  • ptslittlecomment

    Re: Barbara Walter’s ‘“ what did they cover in the interview; how did you find out she invited him to be on The View?

    Barbara said on the View that they discussed the AMA’s. Hopefully they talked about more since that issue wouldn’t be someting that would bring in new viewers anyway.

    The ladies of The View have pretty much brought Adam up in discussion everyday since the AMA’s either on their show, or in Joy’s case, on another show.

    Barbara has said she liked Adam and thought he was a very nice young man. Joy has said GMA and ABC chickened out and has voiced her opinion that Adam is talented on her show. Whoopie, who happens to be bi-sexual, seemed to be most concerned as to whether or not it was homophobic to censor the kiss and grind. When Rod Stewart said Adam’s antics were only Rock and Roll on the show, she agreed. I don’t remember anything Sherri Shepherd has said positively or negatively about it. Elizabeth is the only one who seemed more than just annoyed or interested by his antics on AMA.

    You guys probably know better than me if he has a set date to appear on the show, but I don’t doubt for a second the View cast wants him there. It probably is a matter of determining if their audience wants to see him.

  • 4evrmomof4

    @Z100NewYork Z100 welcomes ADAM LAMBERT as special guest host at Z100′s Jingle Ball 2009!!!!!!!! less than 5 seconds ago from TweetDeck

    Wow, Adam is at Z100

  • mmb

    Wow I spoke too soon. The mini concert was listed on kimmel’s site this morning and now it is gone. If it was cancelled under pressure from ABC that is just waaaayyyy too far over the line

  • agathe.hb

    I used the link that was posted here, maybe on previous page? let me check

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    Another Jingle Ball hosting gig? From twitter

    Z100 welcomes ADAM LAMBERT as special guest host at Z100′s Jingle Ball 2009!!!!!!!! sorry didn’t see above!

  • agathe.hb
  • GaGaGlambert

    nvm

  • LindaT

    agathe.hb
    12/02/2009 at 5:22 pm
    here is the link
    http://www.1iota.com/events,4508,Jimmy-Kimmel-Live-ADAM-LAMBERT-outdoor-mini-concert.html

    Yup, it’s been cancelled. It’s no longer on the main 1iota site. Wow, I guess ABC really is in full-blown punishment mode. Oh well — I guess Barbara Walters has enough clout to keep Adam on her special, but everything else may be off.

  • anovich

    why is Adam hosting these Jingle Balls instead of performing – it gets his name out there but not his music – I don’t get it

  • 4evrmomof4

    awesome another lengthy time on air for hosting gig…great advertising for Adam and z100

  • ptslittlecomment

    Yes at this link

    http://www.1iota.com/showeventdetail.aspx?performanceid=4508#rectix

    it said the outdoor concert is cancelled.

    The calendar of events for that day on the JK website says guest TBD.

  • agathe.hb

    well, maybe it was cancelled for other reasons? perhaps two shows on one day would be too much? especially if Jimmy Kimmel’s show was to be outside?

  • lorismile

    If it was cancelled for the brou-haha (and I’m not yet convinced that’s why), I think it’s pretty cool that Adam would be banned from a network. Seriously, that may put peeps in his corner as it is going a bit far. Who was the last celebrity to be banned?

    But…I’m on the side that says it may be more to a scheduling / logistics conflict than anything else.

  • mmb

    Maybe it is time to print up those “I was banned by ABC” t-shirts I suggested last week!

    Well except he will still be on Babs’ special

  • Jolene

    Honestly, If ABC has to pay a fine because of Adam’s AMA performance, I can easily see why they wouldn’t be thrilled to give him a stage again. It’s their prerogative. I’m guessing the New Year’s Eve show might be next.

  • jpfan

    Wow, Kimmell did cancel Adam. That means New Year’s Eve is not going to happen. Although maybel he’ll be a guest on Kimmel but not perform. It’s still kinda confusing.

    To be honest, I could see Jingle Balls being very wary of Adam performing. A really big part of the audience could be pre-teens and parents def don’t want a repeat of the AMA.

    I feel bad for Adam that there’s still backlash but I’m not really surprised. It wasn’t just the AMA. The whole GMA thing after really created a mess for ABC/Disney.

  • Chicagolaw

    I can’t help it, I am getting kind of annoyed at the hosting gigs. It is great advertising for Adam the personality, but what about advertising the music?

    In terms of Kimmel, it wasn’t added until after the AMAs, right? If it is cancelled, I doubt it is due to ABC/AMA stuff.

  • crazylady

    lorismile
    12/02/2009 at 5:18 pm
    Seriously guys’ ¦.take a chill. If it is cancelled, it could be cancelled for a number of reasons and not because of AMA-ABC stuff!

    I admire your optimism, but with the ABC (and Disney) stuff, I had a strong gut feeling the rumor was true. And now there’s NO WAY he’s going to be joining Ryan Seacrest for New Year’s Eve.

    Some sponsor, etc., is pulling some really big strings/raising hell at ABC to do this to Adam. I guess they feel it’s really too soon after the AMA/GMA deal to move on and let him make appearances on their network–if they ever will again. Just yuck!

    I bet Adam and 19/RCA are besides themselves! I know Adam’s getting some other gigs, but pissing off a big network (with, I’m assuming, no apology) is BAD news for our guy.

  • larchcat

    Wow – I hope this is just a scheduling thing because I seriously think this would be a very stupid position for ABC to take . . I mean, they made their point already. It just seems like this would really get alot of people up in arms (and I don’t mean fans, I mean other artists, entertainmers, political groups, etc.) that could cause a real PR backlash. They really can’t use the justification that “Adam is too unpredictable” now . . HE KNOWS it would be career suicide to pull something like that again, and I think he has shown the proper amount of contrition. Also, there ARE technical stopgaps that everybody knows they could use – people have already questioned why they didn’t use them at AMAs. They would be on very shaky ground here in my opinion, and this is an area I do know something about professionally.

  • mmb

    Well in their GMA cancellation ABC cited the early morning hour and protection of children. What will their excuse be for cancelling appearances between midnight and 1 am???

  • Chicagolaw

    Kimmel is pre-taped, right?

    The only reason I think Adam is hosting all the Jingle Balls is because 19 waited too long to get them scheduled and now the rosters are full. Maybe 19 didn’t think they were going to need them.

  • larchcat

    I would also like to add that although I guess some people have filed some compaints about the FCC – I am fairly confident – again have some background :) that this will not be deemed obscene based on current FCC regulations and the caselaw that goes along with the interpretation of obscenity and its application in a broadcast setting.

    Wow, I need to go back to talking about his hair. Ugh.

  • Sherena

    This sucks :( I feel terrible for Adam. It just has to be petty revenge at this point b/c they can’t seriously think Adam would pull another AMA performance again after all this brouhaha and his statements that he is going to go a new direction and his recent restrained performances of WWFM. If ABC really cancelled this b/c of the AMAs, then it’s a ridiculous overreaction.

  • larchcat

    MMB – What you said as well.

  • crazylady

    Chicagolaw
    12/02/2009 at 5:33 pm
    In terms of Kimmel, it wasn’t added until after the AMAs, right? If it is cancelled, I doubt it is do to ABC/AMA stuff.

    Nope. The guy I talked to at 1iota.com said the appearance had been booked for a while.

    I’m not surprised that the Walters interview is still on – he’s not performing and that’s where ABC said he was unpredictable.

    This is sooo frustrating.

  • mmb

    Larchcat- I agree. I’m a lawyer and I highly doubt there will be any FCC fines.

  • luval

    larchcat… Of all the posts, yours seems to make the most sense. The reason he was cancelled will eventually come out. I totally “get” what Adam was trying to do, albeit unsuccessfully. As he says, he’s learning. Gosh, 2009 and we’re still talking about this stuff. I really can’t wait until this AMA thing is in the past. Also, I wish Ellen hadn’t said “I hope this doesn’t hurt you”. I’m in the minority I know, but I didn’t care that much for the Ellen interview. Too much about the AMA’s. To me it seemed that Adam was uncomfortable.

  • clearone

    Wow…..well damn.

    Well there are lots of other networks. If the NYE thing doesn’t pan out maybe they’ll have him on the FOX one with Alli and Kris.

    I hope his people are working on a SYTYCD performance. That would garner him some big time viewers.

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    well, maybe it was cancelled for other reasons? perhaps two shows on one day would be too much? especially if Jimmy Kimmel’s show was to be outside?

    I can’t recall. Did Adam tweet about this performance? Gah! I hope it was cancelled for logistically reasons.

    I actually have been to JK’s show before. Saw Mary J. Blige perform outside. It’s a taped show but you perform in front of a live audience. So who knows..

  • jpfan

    Why wouldn’t ABC/Disney be mad? First the performance was a surprise to them. Then he accused them of discrimination for censoring it. Then he made the same accusations against GMA and his fans gave GMA more grief for the Chris Brown interview. That’s alot of trouble for ABC in one week.

  • dhunken

    Here is a pic from Adam who is in the Dec 14 issue of people

    http://twitpic.com/rvv32

  • 4evrmomof4

    WOAH, peeps, what mag is THIS in?

    http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/LondonLady72/adam2.jpg

    having hot flashes!!!

  • Summer

    wow, can’t believe they cancelled Kimmel.
    After seeing Adam’s contrite tweets and his Ellen appearance, I posted that I felt Adam’s label had read him the riot act –
    this just cements my opinion, and I think they have probably been trying to talk ABC out of cancelling Adam’s performances over the past few days.

  • luval

    ps…..I think in any further interviews, Adam (and his people) should request that the host not ask any more questions about the AMA’s. It’s really beating a dead horse now. Let’s move on!!!!!! (I know I am dreaming)

  • saga

    Why wouldn’t ABC/Disney be mad? First the performance was a surprise to them. Then he accused them of discrimination for censoring it. Then he made the same accusations against GMA and his fans gave GMA more grief for the Chris Brown interview. That’s alot of trouble for ABC in one week.

    I don’t think they’ll get less trouble by doing something like this.

  • amiroamor

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2009/12/album-sales-adam-lambert-gets-soooo-close-to-200k/1

    It says Carnival Ride has already passed 3 M mark, does that mean it will be certified 3x platinum even if it’s already recurrent?

  • MaryS-NJ

    A VERY nice first week for Adam!

    That said, maybe I just don’t “get” what’s so special about Susan Boyle (pleasant voice but generic, IMO) but I continue to be perplexed that she is #1 on the Billboard 200. It is rather amusing that Simon Cowell and the other judges makes a big deal about “commercial”, “radio-ready” singers and “package artists” on American Idol when the biggest seller this week is a middle-aged woman who sings covers and show tunes and I’m guessing won’t have a big presence on Top 40 radio.

  • DLee

    Here is a pic from Adam who is in the Dec 14 issue of people

    http://twitpic.com/rvv32

    ooooo, so nice!

  • Chicagolaw

    jpfan, Adam made no accusations against GMA. He was very understanding of their situation. I am sure any grief GMA got about Chris Brown came from a lot of different directions. That they would allow him to promote his music on their show, was a bad judgement on their part which they rectified.

  • 4evrmomof4

    dhunken,

    WOAH, thanks, more hot flashes!!! so glad I get people in the mail– is it the 12/14 People?

  • Sherena

    his fans gave GMA more grief for the Chris Brown interview.

    It wasn’t just Adam’s fanbase giving GMA grief for the Chris Brown. Over at ontd main (which isn’t an Adam fanbase at all, they seem to dislike him) there was a ton of outrage at the decision, not b/c they were mad that Adam was cancelled, but because GMA would have Chris Brown on at all. Most people were commenting with “wow I really don’t like that Lambert guy (or douche) but I HATE Chris Brown and I’m outraged that they’d have him on”… so yeah, not just Adam fans at all. Chris Brown has developed quite a strong hater-base, which is very understandable considering this last year.

  • Zowiecat

    I can’t recall what artical it was, but I read that his team planned a televisual, rather than radio roll-out for Adam, so these cancelations are making my heart sink.

  • DLee

    Maybe Oprah will hear about the Kimmel cancellation and pick him up instead…just sayin

  • crazylady

    All this crap makes me very concerned about his career. Any gig is a good gig at this point, even just hosting, but SINGING is what he needs to be doing! Hope 19E/RCA keep him under contract!

  • BestAI

    It takes many, many months, maybe even a few years before a lawsuit filled against/Adam/AMA/ABC /19, whoever, to become finalized.

  • Sherena

    I can’t recall what artical it was, but I read that his team planned a televisual, rather than radio roll-out for Adam, so these cancelations are making my heart sink.

    Reading your comment made me sad…Aww. It’ll work out *optimistic*

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    Maybe Oprah will hear about the Kimmel cancellation and pick him up instead’ ¦just sayin

    I think there will be a backlash against ABC if this is cancelled due to the AMAs. I can’t imagine it was JK’s idea. He did come from the “Man Show” for Pete’s sake.

  • Chicagolaw

    lol, time for Adam’s team to call Oprah!

  • suebrody

    This sucks. Pure and simple, this SUCKS. Did he shoot someone? Rape someone? Murder someone? I cannot believe this. Clearly, someone wants Adam to put out a press release that says:

    Dear World,

    I fucked up. I apologize. I will never, ever do anything that is remotely obscene again. Ever, ever, ever. Please forgive me.

    Yours in contrition,
    Adam “I screwed up” Lambert

  • larchcat

    Hey MMB – well Ok I’ll come clean . . . lawyer here as well. Pretty familiar with this area too . . I just don’t see it. (an FCC fine). In fact, I know plenty of colleagues who would go to their graves fighting it on principle alone. Thanks for the shout out luval – once awhile I make sense I hope! :)

  • lorismile

    We go from hearing he has the 2nd highest debut album for a new artist this year (behind SuBo) to his career is tanking again based upon guesswork. It amazes me how his fans get so much in a uproar and panicked about every thing without getting facts first.

  • 4evrmomof4

    MJ, do you have any insight into what just happened?

  • mmb

    The hosting gigs are GOOD things, not bad things people. He gets lots of stage time, the radio station will spin his single, there will probably be some way to hear his music at the concert. Chill

  • ggdoorsfan

    purely speculating here, but dick clark , who still is a force in the industry to be reckoned with, may not have been too happy w/ lambert’s performance on the ama’s… though weakened by old age and a stroke, he still has a lot of clout, and if he wasn’t happy, then that may be the reason behind the cancellation [s] … there are ”playmakers” like clark still pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes in the industry, and this makes the fallout a tad sobering, and more shortsighted on adam’s part not to take into consideration just how that performance was going to play – not just for the studio and home audience, but to these real powers that be… it is what it is…

  • DLee

    ugh…good news, bad news, good news, bad news…this roller coaster ride is making me sick to my stomach.

  • Tess

    I feel like I’m back in high school again where someone got suspended for pulling a prank…and once the suspension had been served the Principal ganged up on them by calling them out in an Assembly and then not letting them “play” in the big game. Hand out your punishment, let the perpetrator serve their penance, and then call it a day. Piling on just makes everyone look bad and nobody wins.

    Hope that the reason for the cancellation is coming and that it doesn’t get swept under the carpet. I think it is time for ABC to be very frank. I think Adam’s fans and non-fans alike deserve a straight and above board statement. If Adam is to be punished “for life” just let everyone know.

  • dhunken

    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

  • GaGaGlambert

    I read that his team planned a televisual, rather than radio roll-out for Adam, so these cancelations are making my heart sink.

    There are other networks and other shows. I’d rather support them than ABC.

  • 4evrmomof4

    I agree about the hosting thing, particularly at z100, the #1 market in the country– lots of exposure to radio audiences who do not know him yet, his music will be spun leading up to the ball as well

  • Chicagolaw

    I doubt Dick Clark is too concerned with Adam Lambert. I can’t see him crusading against the guy.

  • Tess

    And speculating reasons as to the whys and wherefores of the situation only goes to show how over-invested and biased we can all become. Somebody just needs to “tell the truth”…

  • suebrody

    It’s not up to Dick Clark, I don’t think, it’s up to ABC. Tho I could be wrong about that.

    Z100 is a big supporter of Adam. This IS a big deal.

    #ABCisadouche may trend on Twitter shortly. The Twitter world is outraged. As am I. Will this EVER end?!

    ETA: Adam looks amazing in the photo spread and I feel sad all over again. :(

  • luval

    Now I’m going to be optimistic….I don’t care how many network television cancellations he gets, don’t care about how much flack he gets from any organizations, don’t care about haters….Adam if you are reading this….WE LOVE YOU….WE LOVE YOUR MUSIC…AND ARE SO LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR TOUR!!!!!!!

    (there’s always cable BTW).

  • 4evrmomof4

    dhunken,

    so THAT is where the naked shoulder pic I posted earlier came from– oh happy dance, gorgeous, large article and spread– wow

  • ggdoorsfan

    I think there will be a backlash against ABC if this is cancelled due to the AMAs. I can’t imagine it was JK’s idea. He did come from the ‘Man Show’  for Pete’s sake.

    don’t think so… the real powers that be in the industry are not to be messed with, and a few angry petitions or emails won’t have any effect or make that much difference… these are just some of the politics, and the consequences faced, right or wrong, when they decide to flex their muscle… no one is trying to censor or throw cold water on artistic expression and freedom, but artists must take that into account when they decide to ”push the envelope” on network tv…

  • saga

    Will Adam be rescheduled?

    OutlandoGirl We all got the same “cancelled” email that says make-up date in 2010?? @adamlambert – why no Kimmel?? Help us understand pls.
    less than 5 seconds ago from mobile web

  • GaGaGlambert

    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag
    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

    OMG. It’s those fabulous pants he wore on The Early Show teamed with a gold jacket and platforms. Stunning. THUD.

  • 4evrmomof4

    sue brody, #shameonyouABC may trend as well

  • dhunken

    don’t think so’ ¦ the real powers that be in the industry are not to be messed with, and a few angry petitions or emails won’t have any effect or make that much difference’ ¦ these are just some of the politics, and the consequences faced, right or wrong, when they decide to flex their muscle’ ¦ no one is trying to censor or throw cold water on artistic expression and freedom, but artists must take that into account when they decide to ‘ push the envelope’  on network tv’ ¦

    Though I agree with you in principle they did change the Chris Brown GMA concert because of viewer outrage. So people do have power on some level. If it effects their pocket ABC Disney will respond to pressure.That is why I really think they canceled Adam on GMA’s

  • clearone

    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

    Cool pics but he obviously did the interview when he was in NYC from the tone about the AMA’s.

  • 4evrmomof4

    saga, if twitter goes wild and there is actually a rescheduled date and Adam’s peeps rescheduled it due to his schedule oh boy, is twitter gonna be fun tonite

  • Chicagolaw

    Clearone—I agree about the timing of the interview, which is why I am a little concerned about the Barbara Walters special…

  • ggdoorsfan

    think again about the clout of dick clark… he may not be on many of our radars, because many think he’s just some ”old dude”, but he’s a real player… check out what his production company produces on the networks – especially abc…

    http://dickclark.com/welcome

    Dick Clark Productions (stylized as dick clark productions by the company) is an entertainment production company founded by entertainer Dick Clark. Since its inception in 1957, the company has produced a number of television shows, television specials and televised movies. Such programs include American Bandstand, Where The Action Is, TV Bloopers & Practical Jokes, Camp Midnite, and the NBC series American Dreams (which includes classic footage from American Bandstand).

    Its work also includes such specials as its first awards show,American Music Awards, the Academy of Country Music Awards, the Golden Globe Awards and Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin Eve.

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    OutlandoGirl We all got the same ‘cancelled’  email that says make-up date in 2010??

    Sounds like a scheduling conflict if they plan to put him on at a later date.

  • mmb

    Wait, so the cancellation said there will be a make up date?

  • Tess

    But the whole thing revolves around the statement issued by ABC/Disney. They said Adam was being “punished” for going outside of the confines of what he did on rehearsal and the resulting “live” performance was inappropriate for young children.

    Well, Kimmel is not live…it is taped. The program is aired “late night”. So for ABC to continue their “banishment” then the issue is bigger than their earlier statement and they need to be forthcoming.

  • Keel

    Gosh, I’m a bit of two minds on this. I honestly thought that the GMA cancellation was discrimination against him for being an overtly sexual out gay man. Nothing like that had been done before (to my knowledge) and I didn’t see his performance to be THAT out there — except for the simulated fellatio which I did raise my eyebrows on when I was watching.

    On the other hand, if ABC has been called to the carpet on this by the FCC (as in it’s being treated by them in a way different from their other ‘usual’ complaints for indecency by overly sensitive viewers), whether or not they incur a fine, ABC is probably spending a LOT of money on lawyers, advisors, etc. to make this thing go away. In which case, then I would say that ABC has a right to be pissed at the time and expense that Adam’s performance has put them through, and a little (or a lot of) punishment may in fact be understandable. ETA: And it wouldn’t matter if a show was taped or live. They may just be delivering the message to Adam (and to other controversial performers) of ‘don’t ever go off script again because if you do, we’ll ban your ass!’

  • Chicagolaw

    Maybe people should chill until they find out the actual reason for the cancellation and if it is being rescheduled.

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    Here’s some tweets:

    On Wednesday 2nd December 2009, __________said:

    reply
    Notice I got on the Jimmy Kimmel concert.

    ‘Adam Lambert will not be performing on Jimmy Kimmel Live on Thursday, Dec 17th.

    We are currently working on a makeup date for the new year.

    Check back in 2010 for updates’ .

  • luval

    Planet Fierce people have more power over these ABC suits than you might think.

  • Tess

    If the concert is indeed re-scheduled than the idiot that does their website needs to change the verbage from cancelled to “postponed to a later date”. As long as they use the word cancelled I won’t give them the benefit of my doubt.

  • manny

    Maybe people should chill until they find out the actual reason for the cancellation and if it is being rescheduled.

    Yeah totally! Maybe Adam had to cancel himself for some reason.

  • Sherena

    oops nvm I got beaten to posting it :(

  • suebrody

    Is it possible that they canceled the appearance till the brouhaha dies down? Just a thought. I am very skeptical about their being a scheduling conflict. As in, that’s not what this is about.

    Could ABC be fined by the FCC for a performance that aired at 10:55PM? isn’t that after the 8-10PM slot? What exactly are they being fined for? How would they describe indecency? Isn’t this really tricky territory?

  • clearone

    What night is the Tampa Jingle Ball?

  • Chicagolaw

    Adam has a packed December, maybe they are trying to spread things out a bit.

  • ggdoorsfan

    Planet Fierce people have more power over these ABC suits than you might think.

    ok.

  • tiger92

    OutlandoGirl We all got the same ‘cancelled’  email that says make-up date in 2010??Sounds like a scheduling conflict if they plan to put him on at a later date.

    ITA! Why would they reschedule if the cancellation is due to “punishment”.

  • Sherena

    Planet Fierce people have more power over these ABC suits than you might think.

    ok.

    That’s right. FEAR US, we are mighty, etc etc :P

  • SpenserJ

    I just don’t get how it happened at all. If ABC has an outright ban on Adam then they knew that yesterday before they ever started selling tickets. Why book and cancel something within a 24 hour period. It makes no sense.

  • suebrody

    After the furor dies down and is pretty much forgotten?

  • ggdoorsfan

    That’s right. FEAR US, we are mighty, etc etc :P

    haha, i like your spirit…

  • Sherena

    Lol false alarm. All my emotional trauma for nothing!

    Twitter is now saying that Jimmy Kimmel’s mom died.

  • zzatrms

    That’s right. FEAR US, we are mighty, etc etc

    You’re all Sure Fire Winners! :)

  • gangreen29

    Wow, I am obviously not an Adam fan, but even I think this is ridiculous. He has been punished enough, this really is over the top, and ABC is being super childish.

  • Jolene

    Maybe people should chill until they find out the actual reason for the cancellation and if it is being rescheduled.

    Nah, that would be too logical.

  • dhunken

    Didn’t someone say that according to the schedule it looked like Adam would be on both Jimmy Kimmel and Lary King on the same day. Maybe there was a conflict and needed to be resheduled. I do agree that if it is true then the website should have worded it as postponed until a future date.

  • tiger92

    After the furor dies down and is pretty much forgotten?

    Nah, I don’t buy this. It would seem a cancellation would bring more attention to the whole thing. It would be adding fuel to the fire.

    Wow, I am obviously not an Adam fan, but even I think this is ridiculous. He has been punished enough, this really is over the top, and ABC is being super childish.

    This is my point. I think ABC cancelling would not be in their best interests. It makes them look a little ridiculous. So, I’m hoping (for Adam and ABC) that it’s just a scheduling thing.

  • saga

    JAGOfficial: The @adamlambert promo ABC performance was CANCELED because it doesn’t coincide with @RyanSeacrest’s @AmericanIdol concert in LA, calm down.

    Jimmy Kimmels mom died?!

  • Sherena

    Maybe people should chill until they find out the actual reason for the cancellation and if it is being rescheduled.

    Nah, that would be too logical.

    Logic takes all the fun outta life. No thank you!

  • Adamslamb

    Just got my email. Oh how sad. I took the day off and everything. I was so looking forward to the show. WAAAAAAA. I’m crying !!!!!!!

  • clearone

    JAGOfficial: The @adamlambert promo ABC performance was CANCELED because it doesn’t coincide with @RyanSeacrest’s @AmericanIdol concert in LA, calm down.

    Huh? What does Ryan have to do with it and WTH is JAGOfficial?

  • saga

    I don’t know what concert this guy is about…

    http://twitter.com/JAGOfficial

    Sorry this guy didn’t know WHAT he was talking about.

  • Maria22

    Twitter is saying that the cancelation is due to Kimmel’s mother dying.

  • PattyH

    I had a friend that made resrevations to fly in from San Francisco for this! :(

  • larchcat

    Could ABC be fined by the FCC for a performance that aired at 10:55PM? isn’t that after the 8-10PM slot? What exactly are they being fined for? How would they describe indecency? Isn’t this really tricky territory?

    Suebrody – Since you asked the question, for what its worth, both MMB and I posted above that we definitely think it highly unlikely the FCC would deem this finable, and that it is indeed very tricky territory.

    And in terms of the costs of lawyer for a company like ABC, trust me, its just another day at the office. You have tons of lawyers on staff and every possible kind of law firm and their dog on retainer. Not saying a picnic, but in the grand scheme of all the crap that you get at you this is nothing.

    I have NEVER thought this was a decision (the GMA one) coming from the legal department. I have talked to several friends about this and we roll our eyes. It came from a big irate advertiser, in my opinion.

  • clearone

    I had a friend that made resrevations to fly in from San Francisco for this

    I never fly without cancellation insurance.

  • tiger92

    Wow! The twitter world is truly fascinating sometimes!

  • alaadam

    Sorry but Adam was scheduled for a couple of weeks from now. What does JK’s mother dying have to do with that?

  • Sherena

    This isn’t great but it’s definitely more bearable since it’s not due to ABC being douchy, but rather to unforeseeable circumstances. I feel awful for Jimmy if the rumors are true.

  • dhunken

    JAGOfficial: The @adamlambert promo ABC performance was CANCELED because it doesn’t coincide with @RyanSeacrest’s @AmericanIdol concert in LA, calm down.

    Well whatever the reason this guy is way off the Rock my Town is not until Feb 17, 2010. It would have never coincided. Confused? If Jimmy Kimmel’s mom had died it’s not on the news wires yet and they have not canceled any of the other concerts. Like John Mayer on Dec 15,2009.

  • HotHotHot

    Dhunken
    12/02/2009 at 5:59 pm
    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

    *out the door to buy magazine now*

  • Sherena

    Sorry but Adam was scheduled for a couple of weeks from now. What does JK’s mother dying have to do with that?

    I assume it’s because Jimmy may be too distraught to do the planned segment.

  • saga

    cutiepi300 shhhh shhhh shhhh! everyone chill out!! Jimmy Kimmel’s mother died, that’s why they cancelled the concert…
    4 minutes ago from web
    Retweeted by IBRITADAM33 and 3 others

    finney4 NONE of the other concerts on Jimmey Kimme’s schedule have been cancelled ONLY ADAM LAMBERT
    less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

  • Sherena

    finney4 NONE of the other concerts on Jimmey Kimme’s schedule have been cancelled ONLY ADAM LAMBERT
    less than a minute ago from TweetDeck

    And now apparently it’s being said that the twitter rumor about Jimmy’s mom was just that, a rumor. Great. Back to speculating I guess?

  • becausehelives

    what!! they cancelled the concert. boo. why tell us one day and cancel the next. we just heard abt the concert yesterday , if they were all having doubts there was no need to start sending out tickets and stuff. we wldn’t even have known that he was scheduled and it wld have happened quietly. it now feels like lets book him just so we can cancel and teach him more lessons.

  • tiger92

    Dhunken
    12/02/2009 at 5:59 pm
    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

    *out the door to buy magazine now*

    Holy Fuck! Chest hair, glambulge, and those eyes!

    *off to find my keys*

  • alaadam

    If it has to do with JK being distraught, why aren’t the other concerts cancelled?

  • clearone

    If Jimmy’s mother hasn’t died this is truly cruel to Jimmy and his mother. I think I’ll just wait for something official. Twitter is NOT official.

  • Izzie2

    Suebrody: Could ABC be fined by the FCC for a performance that aired at 10:55PM? isn’t that after the 8-10PM slot? What exactly are they being fined for? How would they describe indecency? Isn’t this really tricky territory?

    I have a feeling that there are other reasons for the Kimmel appearance being canceled/postponed, but there is a LARGE portion of the country on CST and the AMA’s were aired from 7 -10 PM.

  • dhunken

    And I don’t that if his Mother had Died his first inclination would be to send out a e-mail to inform everyone that Adam Lambert’s concert has been canceled until a future date in 2010

  • HermeticallySealed

    That may be the day of the funeral.

  • alaadam

    dhunken Totally agree! Besides, why was it up and then down on the AO site yesterday???

  • Sherena

    If it has to do with JK being distraught, why aren’t the other concerts cancelled?

    I didn’t know about that…now I do… well. I have no explanation then, lol.

  • lola

    I won’t worry much with all what’s happening. This will benefit Adam in the end…..remember the underdog image?

  • suebrody

    I am so not buying that this is why the concert was canceled.

    Jimmy goes to the barbershop to figure out the Tiger Woods thing: http://bit.ly/907H6i about 3 hours ago from web

    Did she die in the past two hours? I’m not trying to be insensitive, I’m being real about this. Adam’s was the ONLY concert canceled.

    Thanks for the info re: the FCC. That’s exactly what I thought. WTF is going on with ABC?! Say goodbye to Adam on Rockin’ NYE. Maybe Fox will pick him up for *their* NYE show, and we can have another Adison concert, since Kris and Allison are already booked for it.

  • Miss Chaos

    And Adam’s credit card was expired, and he fell over or kicked a dog, OOOOOOOOhhh! Do you know what you got into??????

  • zzatrms

    If his mother died, where could any relatives live that would prevent them from getting to the funeral until 2 weeks from now?

  • crazylady

    Tess
    12/02/2009 at 6:12 pm
    If the concert is indeed re-scheduled than the idiot that does their website needs to change the verbage from cancelled to ‘postponed to a later date’ . As long as they use the word cancelled I won’t give them the benefit of my doubt.

    I’m with you; I’ll believe it when I see a new date appear!

    As for giving away tickets one day and then cancelling the next, someone at ABC may have screwed up and forgotten to pull the plug on this. Wouldn’t want to be that person!

    I’m very sorry if Kimmel’s mother died, but no other concerts have been cancelled. Something still smells bad to me. A true explanation/reason for this would be very nice – if we can get one.

  • alaadam

    Also, why did RCA only mention Leno and Conan in the press release THIS morning?? His mother had not passed then.

  • dhunken

    I could get on board with this explanation

    The @adamlambert JK was canceled because it doesn’t coincide with the “Rock My Town” event. He wants to do both the same week

  • alaadam

    Who is the JAGofficial guy that tweeted this?

  • ggdoorsfan

    WTF is going on with ABC?! Say goodbye to Adam on Rockin’ NYE. M

    i’m still thinking dick clark productions is flexing their muscle… clark and abc go back a long way, and though ryan seacrest is supposedly being groomed as the next ”dick clark”, the real dc is still very much a player… lotta politics behind the scenes, for sure, but i’d think dick clark, ”mr. american bandstand”, a living pop culture institution, would not be the person i’d want to be on the bad side of…

  • saga

    I could get on board with this explanation

    The @adamlambert JK was canceled because it doesn’t coincide with the ‘Rock My Town’  event. He wants to do both the same week

    Does or doesn’t?

  • PattyH

    The @adamlambert JK was canceled because it doesn’t coincide with the ‘Rock My Town’  event. He wants to do both the same week

    That makes no sense, to me. Sorry.
    ABC has gone from “making a point” (which I could have slightly understood) to being a bully! I hate bullies!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    The Rock My Town event is in February. So, that’s false as well.

  • larchcat

    dhunken
    12/02/2009 at 6:42 pm
    I could get on board with this explanation

    The @adamlambert JK was canceled because it doesn’t coincide with the ‘Rock My Town’  event. He wants to do both the same week

    Speaking pragmatically, that would make financial sense in terms of paying the band and tech guys. But who said that? I’m still not totally convinced. . .

  • alaadam

    I tweeted the guy to find out who he is? How does he know this information? Something official from JK or Adam’s peeps would be nice. Not buying it til we hear something official. ABC sucks!

  • sr4mjc

    Tampa Jingle Ball is 12/13. If we don’t have an answer by then, I’ll ask him. Assuming he doesn’t get cancelled there as well.

  • PattyH

    Speaking pragmatically, that would make financial sense in terms of paying the band and tech guys. But who said that? I’m still not totally convinced. . .

    Why? The band is in LA, the Rock My Town will most likely be NYC or AR. This explanation makes absolutely no sense.

  • crazylady

    Call me stupid or whatever, but I didn’t know that it had been determined that the Rock My Town event was going to be held in LA. This guy’s nuts. I don’t think Adam had a thing to do with this cancellation.

    Unless Adam offers an explanation to the rescheduling of JK, then I’m assuming it has everything to do with ABC.

  • jpfan

    I think I’ll wait for an explanation that doesn’t show up only on Twitter.
    Twitter can be totally worthless.

    P.S. Adam plans on doing a concert in LA and NY or Ark. on the same day. Bullshit.

  • larchcat

    Why? The band is in LA, the Rock My Town will most likely be NYC or AR. This explanation makes absolutely no sense.

    Well, thanks, for saying I make no sense, but I was trying to say that since the band is likely employed by the WEEK, having to only employ them for ONE WEEK while they would be doing two performances within said week instead of two separate weeks, for two separate performances actually would in fact save Adam money.

    Notwithstanding the foregoing, the initial information seems without merit anyway so it is moot.

  • Organic

    Someone on AO said they received an email stating the following regarding Jimmy Kimmel. Apparently, it’s being rescheduled.

    ‘Adam Lambert will not be performing on Jimmy Kimmel Live on Thursday, Dec 17th.

    We are currently working on a makeup date for the new year.

    Check back in 2010 for updates’ .

  • sr4mjc

    Fianally! 93.3 FLZ in Tampa is spinning WWFM! Said “Giving some Adam Lambert love since he’s emceeing Jingle Ball’

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Adam has an album to push RIGHT NOW. He’s certainly not going to be the one to cancel any appearances unless there’s an emergency. And, why would he decide to cancel only one of his upcoming appearances and reschedule it for February? Ridiculous.

  • suebrody

    Yes, but why was it canceled? Maybe it doesn’t matter, except to the people who bought plane tickets to go. Or maybe it does matter.

  • PattyH

    larchcat, sorry, bad wording. :(
    But the band is working the same week as Kimmel. That’s the week they are doing Conan (and possibly Jay Leno.)

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Fianally! 93.3 FLZ in Tampa is spinning WWFM! Said ‘Giving some Adam Lambert love since he’s emceeing Jingle Ball’

    And to someone who asked before, THIS is why Adam is hosting. His music will get played on the stations. I think it was Kirsten who said that these Jingle Balls are a bit of a modern-day payola. Girlygirl did a nice job of explaining the Jingle Balls and the advantage they have over in Kris’ Jingle Ball thread. (And I just reverted to the mentality of a 12-year-old boy. I’m giggling up a storm re-reading “Jingle Balls.”)

  • suebrody

    Jingle balls. HA HA HA

    Sex sells except when it’s not been approved. Violence, however, is just fine.

  • PattyH

    You know, I have really been trying, so hard, to not think that all of this was because Adam is gay. I really almost convinced myself that it had to do with ABC “saving face,” using him as an example, and the difference between male and female blatant sexuality, blah, blah, blah. But I was really hoping it wasn’t a gay thing. Now, all I think is, “that is exactly what it is.”
    I am so sad, and not for me, because I had tickets. I’ll see Adam, in a solo concert, eventually. I am so sad for that very nice young man named Adam Lambert. :( I am in tears.

  • iluvai

    Here is the entire photo spread in the People mag

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=634228&st=0

    He must be the most photogenic man I have ever seen. Just gorgeous! He could be a model.

  • larchcat

    PattyH –

    no worries babe. :) And you are right – I didn’t realize they are already working. I can’t help myself – just trying to make sure Adam isn’t overspending and ending up unrecouped into the next millenium so that he can buy that purple and red hookah den! :)

  • saga
  • mmb

    Ainow.org tweeted the there is a new booking to replace kimmel but they don’t say what it is….maybe leno?

  • ggdoorsfan

    Or maybe it does matter.

    it matters. promotion is the name of the game for artists, especially new ones like lambert, with new releases to push… we’ll just have to see how this plays out…

  • Organic

    According to this article, Adam will be doing Jay Leno on December 21.

    http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1464-abc-ticket-website-adam-lambert-mini-concert-canceled

  • ggdoorsfan

    it does look like lambert will be appearing now on nbc instead – the leno show 12/21… beginning to think it’ll be a while before he’s back on the abc network….

  • saga

    And ABC look more and more silly…

  • suebrody

    Oh, I know it matters, ggdoorsfan. I feel very badly for Adam. It just doesn’t end. I hope the Jay Leno gig works out on 12/21.

  • larchcat

    I am still hoping there is another explanation because this is just TOTALLY ridiculous if ABC is just banning him. Just on so many levels.

  • larchcat

    And if its an advertiser behind all this, I’d like to know who, because I’m banning them.

  • Kate8

    I bet the New Year’s Eve gig will be cancelled next. I think ABC is taking it way too far 2 cancelled concerts in a row, granted I didn’t particularly care for the AMA performance, but this is ridiculous.

  • smellycat

    Lyndsey Parker tweeted that Adam and Jimmy Kimmel are working a reschedule date for 2010. I think it will be in February about the same time as Rock My Town. That is what Jagofficial has been trying to say in his tweets. Cross promotion is in the works.

  • sr4mjc

    Me too larchcat. I want to put my money where my mouth is if there is someone behind it. In the meantime I will hope that there is just something better being scheduled.

    Although another cancellation by ABC is kind of a big story, do they really want this press? No reason to cancel a show that isn’t live.

  • larchcat

    This may sound ridiculous, but I would like to think that Barbara Walters might actually stand up for Adam here? Ugh. Maybe I’m just grasping. Going to go look at those beautiful pics again . . . .

  • BestAI

    So will every tv show on ABC where they show a couple in bed simulating sex going to be cancelled?

  • suebrody

    Damn, I love FlashForward on ABC. I guess I’ll just tape it and watch it later, so I can bypass all of their freaking sponsors.

    I still think they could put Adam on another NYE concert (yes, I’m certain he won’t be on w/ Ryan). Gets a lot of viewership. Could FOX still be a possibility? Does NBC or CBS have one?

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    So, Adam’s going to be on Barbara Walters special, Leno, and Conan. Plus he’s in this week’s People Magazine. Geez. That’s some hefty publicity. I wouldn’t worry about ABC and Kimmel, regardless of the reasoning behind the cancellation. I wouldn’t even worry about Rockin’ New Years Eve.

  • suebrody

    What is Rock My Town?

  • ggdoorsfan

    And ABC look more and more silly’ ¦

    maybe to the invested fans, but they don’t seem to be concerned with looking silly… more like c.y.a., and playing hardball it seems… for every lambert they cancel are 100′s more artists and agents and labels clamoring to get a shot or slot on some show broadcast on their network…

  • clearone

    I still want to know who the hell JAGOfficial is!

    ….and why there has been no official announcement of Kimmel being cancelled….and I’m not buying the rescheduling line. They can say that until the cows come home and not give a definite date. It’s called waffling.

  • ggdoorsfan

    Oh, I know it matters, ggdoorsfan. I feel very badly for Adam. It just doesn’t end. I hope the Jay Leno gig works out on 12/21.

    welcome to the politics of the music and entertainment business :wink:

  • dcglam

    I feel very badly for Adam. It just doesn’t end. I hope the Jay Leno gig works out on 12/21.

    suebrody~
    Please explain what is going on. I recently got home from work and don’t have time to read all the comments from the day. This isn’t sounding good……..
    Thank you!

  • BestAI

    maybe to the invested fans, but they don’t seem to be concerned with looking silly’ ¦ more like c.y.a., and playing hardball it seems’ ¦ for every lambert they cancel are 100′s more artists and agents and labels clamoring to get a shot or slot on some show broadcast on their network’ ¦

    It’s more like every time Adam is cancelled, some other network jumps at the chance to pick him up.

  • crazylady

    Here’s Lyndsey’s tweet. At least she SPOKE to someone at ABC!

    spoke to someone at ABC, was told they’re working on an Adam Lambert/Jimmy Kimmel make-up concert for the new year. I have no other info.
    14 minutes ago from web

    Hopefully her contact was speaking the truth and it’s not just more BS.

  • sr4mjc

    Is there a link to spins for the week for songs?

  • GaGaGlambert

    why tell us one day and cancel the next. we just heard abt the concert yesterday

    ABC has lots of experience messing with us on the east coast regarding GMA. I’m happy to not support their network. There are other networks who will step in to fill the void.

    All the “explanations” have a strong stench IMO.

  • crazylady

    clearone
    12/02/2009 at 7:19 pm
    I still want to know who the hell JAGOfficial is!

    ‘ ¦.and why there has been no official announcement of Kimmel being cancelled’ ¦.and I’m not buying the rescheduling line. They can say that until the cows come home and not give a definite date. It’s called waffling.

    EXACTLY! I mean, how long does it take to come up with a new date!

  • saga

    @AINow: FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s “Rockin New Years Eve” appearance being canceled…But we were told “no comment …
    less than a minute ago

  • becausehelives

    it does look like lambert will be appearing now on nbc instead ‘“ the leno show 12/21′ ¦ beginning to think it’ll be a while before he’s back on the abc network’ ¦.

    I am quite certain I watched Adam on the ellen show on ABC yesterday . was that just in my neck of the woods?. is she on different networks for other peeps?

  • clearone

    @AINow: FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s ‘Rockin New Years Eve’  appearance being canceled’ ¦But we were told ‘no comment ‘ ¦
    less than a minute ago

    It’s cancelled. :(

  • lucy

    Honestly, If ABC has to pay a fine because of Adam’s AMA performance, I can easily see why they wouldn’t be thrilled to give him a stage again.

    ABC will not have to pay any fines based on Adam’s performance. He did nothing that was any more sexual than stuff done by at least half a dozen other people on that show.

    The *only* thing he did differently was to exhibit some male-on-male sexuality. And FCC will not rule against ABC on that kind of discriminatory basis. It’s illegal to do so, and they know it. That would be pure discrimination, given the ton of other simulated sex acts performed on the AMA stage that night — not to mention on many of the other music awards show.

    They’re not anticipating a fine. They’re just getting crap from some big-money advertiser with conservative Christian ties who’s taking Adam’s performance as a new excuse to threaten Disney with pulling a lot of hefty ads because Disney is too pro-gay.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    I wish adam could tweet what the heck is going on LOL. I hope it was just scheduling conflicts and not ABC making a decision to ban him. I mean, whats next, no more rockin eve?

  • alaadam

    This was just tweeted by AINOW:

    AINow FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s “Rockin New Years Eve” appearance being canceled…But we were told “no comment”. – AINow.Org

  • justshootme

    If it is a reschedule for Kimmel, I want a date. And I’d also like confirmation of NYRE. Need to know if I should adjust my meds.

  • dhunken

    crazylady
    12/02/2009 at 7:23 pm

    Here’s Lyndsey’s tweet. At least she SPOKE to someone at ABC!

    spoke to someone at ABC, was told they’re working on an Adam Lambert/Jimmy Kimmel make-up concert for the new year. I have no other info.
    14 minutes ago from web

    Hopefully her contact was speaking the truth and it’s not just more BS.

    As a Adam fan I am going to go and believe what was told to Lyndsay. I highly doubt that ABC or Disney will want to lie to a journalist especially one who works for Yahoo. I would buy they don’t care what Adam thinks but messing with the media is a whole different animal. IMHO

  • saga

    @SadaoTurner: Looks like ABC has canceled yet another @AdamLambert performance, this time for Kimmel. He’s been replaced by @AllisonI …

  • suebrody

    Just read from Sunn that they replace Adam with Allison…This just gets curiouser and curiouser. I wonder if Adam wishes he was selling his album off myspace and YT?!

    AINow FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s ‘Rockin New Years Eve’  appearance being canceled’ ¦But we were told ‘no comment’ . ‘“ AINow.Org

    Deeelightful. Thanks for the lifetime ban, ABC.

  • ggdoorsfan

    I am quite certain I watched Adam on the ellen show on ABC yesterday . was that just in my neck of the woods?. is she on different networks for other peeps?

    i think her show is syndicated… i get her on something other than an abc station in my viewing area…

  • suebrody

    If it is a reschedule for Kimmel, I want a date. And I’d also like confirmation of NYRE. Need to know if I should adjust my meds.

    Confirmation is that NYRE has been canceled. Thanks, ABC! I’d boycott you, but there’s only show I actually *watch* on your lousy station…

  • dhunken

    clearone
    12/02/2009 at 7:29 pm

    @AINow: FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s ‘Rockin New Years Eve’  appearance being canceled’ ¦But we were told ‘no comment ‘ ¦
    less than a minute ago

    It’s cancelled. :(

    I unfortunately think I agree with you Clearone….that kind of response of no comment usually means YES but we don’t want any grief now.

  • clearone

    @SadaoTurner: Looks like ABC has canceled yet another @AdamLambert performance, this time for Kimmel. He’s been replaced by @AllisonI ‘ ¦

    Peachy.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    maybe to the invested fans, but they don’t seem to be concerned with looking silly

    No. But, they will be concerned about looking homophobic. If it gets out that Adam is being blackballed from all ABC shows, the media will leap right on that. Adam is still a media draw. Whether or not anyone here thinks that homophobia played a role in ABC getting hot under the collar over Adam’s performance or not, that will be the angle the media will take if the Kimmel cancellation is followed by bouncing him from New Year’s Rockin’ Eve.

    But, to be clear, I have no idea what happened with the Kimmel show. It might just be a scheduling issue on Kimmel’s part. Who knows. However, it is suspicious.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    @AINow: FYI: We asked about rumors of @AdamLambert ‘s ‘Rockin New Years Eve’  appearance being canceled’ ¦But we were told ‘no comment ‘ ¦
    less than a minute ago

    I need a shoulder to cry on :( I wonder if he would just apologize, would they stop canceling on him?

  • unique28v

    “@SadaoTurner: Looks like ABC has canceled yet another @AdamLambert performance, this time for Kimmel. He’s been replaced by @AllisonI”

    Emails were sent out by ABC saying they’re working on an Adam Lambert/Jimmy Kimmel make-up concert for the new year. why would they cancel just to make it up? Something is missing.

  • saga

    No. But, they will be concerned about looking homophobic. If it gets out that Adam is being blackballed from all ABC shows, the media will leap right on that. Adam is still a media draw. Whether or not anyone here thinks that homophobia played a role in ABC getting hot under the collar over Adam’s performance or not, that will be the angle the media will take if the Kimmel cancellation is followed by bouncing him from New Year’s Rockin’ Eve.

    Not to mention the international media that will cover a story like this.

  • Pam

    i think her show is syndicated’ ¦ i get her on something other than an abc station in my viewing area’ ¦

    Same here. She airs on the local NBC station in my viewing area.

  • ggdoorsfan

    I highly doubt that ABC or Disney will want to lie

    no one is above lying, or shading /spinning the truth… how does that line, or words of wisdom in the song ”i heard it through the grapevine” go…

    believe half of what you see, some and none of what you hear... especially coming from the mouths of politicians and large corporations… :D

  • mmb

    Weird that allison is replacing him. Makes me wonder if there really is some sort of scheduling issue and 19 gave kimmel allison as a replacement (like when she replaced kris on conan). But the most likely explanation is that abc cancelled bc they are blackballing his performances

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    Good news…bad news..good news..bad news..where did we leave off? (just so I know what to expect next!)

  • alaadam

    Why would they put Allison in this position? Adam fans luv her but they won;t watch JK if they cancelled Adam.

  • larchcat

    I need a shoulder to cry on I wonder if he would just apologize, would they stop canceling on him?

    You may be right, but really, what else is there to say? Even when he was being more defiant, he never attacked ABC . . well I guess maybe that first discrimination remark, but he always said they did what they had too . . .honestly, it does seem baffling . . .and Zsus, I totally agree with you. Already, the NY Times, Newsweek, the Wall Street Journal, and Time, as well as countless less powerful media outlets were already posting articles stating ABC was being ridiculous .and applying a double standard . . . this will definitely get noticed, and not in a good way for ABC. I would really like to be a fly on the wall. . .

  • becausehelives

    well if they replaced Adam with Allison then the reason from the jagofficial guy doesn’t hold cos Allsion too will be at rock my town, how come they don’t want hers done together?. whatever. not even worth the grief as long as other networks are booking him it’s fine.

  • windmills

    Is it possible that ABC is punishing Adam by banning him from appearances for a certain amount of time like through the end of this year? Hence the rescheduling for next year? Like MJ said it’s to show him who’s boss.

    Something Adam said to Ellen stood out to me: he said that he now recognizes that the network took a chance on him by giving him this chance to perform at the awards show and to close the show and he didn’t want to seem like he was disrespecting that. I think his comment was motivated by him knowing that the network DID feel disrespected and that Adam’s semi apologetic stance now is because he knew there were more consequences than GMA being canceled.

    I think it’s possible other major networks will have some pause before inviting Adam to perform on a live awards show for a little while BUT Adam may just have locked up a performance spot on next year’s MTV VMAs or even the MTV Movie Awards next June. I can see it now: “Here he is, the guy the networks are afraid to let perform live. WE’ll let him do ANYTHING he wants!”

    Also if Dick Clark’s New Year Rockin Eve is canceled I’m sure FOX or MTV will be happy to have Adam on their shows instead.

  • dcglam

    I wonder if he would just apologize, would they stop canceling on him?

    Unfortunately, I really don’t think it would make a difference. They probably wouldn’t believe him. I am so upset right now.

  • unique28v

    But, to be clear, I have no idea what happened with the Kimmel show. It might just be a scheduling issue on Kimmel’s part. Who knows. However, it is suspicious.

    If it was more, why would they send an email out saying it would be rescheduled?

  • dhunken

    This just in from Jimmy Kimmel Live tweet

    @jimmykimmellive Coming up on December 17th we’ve got Allison Iraheta scheduled for a concert.

  • suebrody

    They are now putting Allison in the unenviable position of replacing Adam. Lose/Lose, ABC. And re: canceling Adam on RNYE, this is all a bit too predictable. How are they going to spin that one? That he started his tour down under and was thus unavailable?

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    Jag guy again

    @alidol2009 I already replied to this concern. Appearantly JK wants to shoot @adamlambert wherever “Rock My Town” happens to be…

  • sr4mjc

    Anyone think that a NYE cancellation might give Adam a little more street cred and a boost in the press? Just trying to look at this from any positive angle. Like someone said, the International press might just eat this up.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    If it was more, why would they send an email out saying it would be rescheduled.

    Why not? Rescheduled could mean “rescheduled indefinitely…” or “rescheduled after ABC honchos get their heads out of their asses…”

  • JenOhio

    LOL Zsus!!

  • ksgirlfordc

    What would you have ABC do? Think about this senario…..A large adverstising sponsor of the network is upset with Adam’s performance on the AMA’s and threatens to pull all his multi-million dollar ads from ABC. What would you do if it was your business? I honestly don’t think that Adam is at a stage in his career where ABC would risk giving up that ad money. What Adam did was wrong and when he should have had a glorious debut, he reduced it to sleeze (and yes I think 90% of the AMA’s was sleeze). Now because of a cancellation, everyone is up in arms that he has been blacklisted. No one “knows” the reason for the Kimmel cancellation. It COULD possibly be a scheduling conflict. It happens all the time.

  • unique28v

    This is what JAGOfficial says on twitter:

    Don’t believe any rumors! None of @adamlambert appearances have been canceled. This includes: @nbcjay on the 21st and New Year’s Eve show…

  • suebrody

    Maybe this will make you feel a little better:

    http://tweetphoto.com/5675020

    From our friends at Vevo. At least they haven’t canceled on Adam yet (nor has VH-1). In a way, they get cred for being alternative…

    I still wonder if Barbara Walters’ show will keep Adam on there…I can just imagine the excuses they’d use…

  • Hazehel

    I think this is what happened to John Mayer. The album sucks’ ¦

    Well, I wouldn’t go as far as saying that it sucks, I just don’t think it’s as good as previous albums. I like John Mayer’s singing voice, and I do like a couple of the songs in there (I think Edge of Desire is a good song, Who Says is a really strange choice for a single though.).

    I’m one who predicted beforehand that Adam will reach platinum, depending on what the album sounds like. Having heard it, I think most of the songs are fine, and there’re a couple of good ones I really like. The problem now appears to be perception – Adam seemed adamant on playing up his gayness with the album cover and the AMA stunt, and I’m not really sure how that will go down with the general public in the long run. Controversy may be good publicity in the short term, but that’s something people can easily get tired of. He doesn’t really want to get tagged as THE gay singer. I’m scaling down my expectation slightly, but I still think he can do platinum, if he can get a big hit or two that is (I do think a couple of the songs can be big hits, they have to be careful with single choice though). I also think that Adam is talented enough to do well in a number of other fields should he want to get into them, so I don’t think there is anything to worry about his future.

  • crazylady

    unique28v
    12/02/2009 at 7:41 pm

    If it was more, why would they send an email out saying it would be rescheduled?

    ABC will never admit the “why” for the cancellation. As for saying it will be rescheduled, that’s just a stalling technique IMO. It’s a word used to pacify people for a while – they think!

    Furthermore, I don’t think the JAG guy knows what he’s talking about and won’t believe him until he can prove his source.

  • luval

    What a roller coaster day. Could somebody please give me a “cheer up”? I’m at a low period right now. thanking you in advance.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    I still wonder if Barbara Walters’ show will keep Adam on there’ ¦I can just imagine the excuses they’d use’ ¦

    That’s taped. Plus, they’re already using him in promos. Besides ads, there’s a blurb about Adam being on the show in TV Guide. So, that will stay.

  • larchcat

    sr4mjc
    12/02/2009 at 7:42 pm
    Anyone think that a NYE cancellation might give Adam a little more street cred and a boost in the press? Just trying to look at this from any positive angle. Like someone said, the International press might just eat this up.

    In reply, Yes, I do. I already stated my position RE: the mainstream press above. And honestly, I was already thinking it could actually help him in the music world . . .being a bit more “badass”. Having said that, I certainly would turn back the clock if I could . . I’m just hoping for lemonade out of lemons.

  • dhunken

    Zsus
    12/02/2009 at 7:45 pm

    If it was more, why would they send an email out saying it would be rescheduled.

    Why not? Rescheduled could mean ‘rescheduled indefinitely’ ¦’  or ‘rescheduled after ABC honchos get their heads out of their asses’ ¦‘ 

    I guess that means he is never going to be rescheduled. :lol:

  • unique28v

    @alidol2009 I already replied to this concern. Appearantly JK wants to shoot @adamlambert wherever ‘Rock My Town’  happens to be’ ¦

    Right now I think New York is winning the Rock My Town concert contest.

  • JenOhio

    luval – Cheer up – it has to get better!!

  • luval

    thank you suebrody….I love dogs and Adam! Feel better now.

  • Chicagolaw

    The “no comment” about the NYRE is probably because none of the acts performing have been officially announced.

    I still think people should chill…

    He will be on ABC for the Barbara Walters special and, probably, The View. I really don’t think he has been banned. That would be a bit of overkill, he hasn’t committed a felony.

  • JenOhio

    New thread re cancellation.

  • PattyH

    MJ just put up a thread for this story.

  • BestAI

    Jag guy again

    @alidol2009 I already replied to this concern. Appearantly JK wants to shoot @adamlambert wherever ‘Rock My Town’  happens to be’ ¦

    Bull. That isn’t even an Adam concert.

  • zzatrms

    MJ started a new thread about this.

  • SpenserJ

    I think if Adam is actually permanently banned from a network, that’s kind of awesome. It’s all so very rock and roll lol. It’s like abc is going to instantly turn Adam into a badass rockstar. At this point, I find this whole situation Entirely amusing.

    All the Twitter loonies should just chill and stop spreading and repeating rumors. The craziness happening on Twitter is worse than getting canceled.

    Adam clearly has a bunch of tv appearences coming up and with kimmel’s ratings, losing that one is not that big of a deal.

    People really buy plane tickets to fly to a show with a two song set? That’s a huge waste of money and time.

  • suebrody

    Oh, now I know I remember Rock This Town! Well, they haven’t canceled Adam *yet*. *go NYC*

    Bizarre day indeed, from the highs of the sales to the lows of the cancellations. This thread could make for interesting TV: As the Adam Turns.

  • girlygirl

    well that makes no sense because Rock This Town concert is on Valentine’s Day. So why not have Adam on as scheduled in December, and then again film the Valentine’s day concert (when they could get bonus Kris and Allison if they wanted)

  • girlygirl

    meanwhile, discouring 1st week predictions from HDD for Allison’s album (25-30K)

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    good 4 him.he deserves it.

  • unique28v

    Adam clearly has a bunch of tv appearences coming up and with kimmel’s ratings, losing that one is not that big of a deal.

    Who can stay up that late to watch the show? Especially if you have to get up and go to work that morning!

  • Sherena

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Silver lining: this definitely makes him look very sympathetic, which is good

  • jun
  • jun

    oops posted under wrong headlines.. please delete above

  • reinharv

    I don’t find Adam Lambert’s sales that impressive considering all the hype around him & the media love he got. Ranking @ # 3 doesn’t mean much to me – it’s album sales. Last year Cook sold 100K more than Lambert & he certainly didn’t get the amount of publicity Lambert got. Looking at Billboard, he isn’t even mentioned in top 100 for next week’s sales. He’s had no blockbuster singles hit either. Last year, Cook’s album went platinum in around 3 months and is one of only 19 to do so in 2009 that went platinum & had two platinum singles. In addition, though David Archuleta didn’t get great album sales, he had a huge hit with Crush. I seriously doubt that RCA or Jive invested the kind of promotion dollars in Cook or Archie like they did Adam Lambert totally ignoring promoting Kris Allen who actually won A.I. & by right deserved to get promotion as the winner. Reading RCA’s blurb on Lambert would have thought he was the one to re-invent & revive the music industry. Well, the middle-aged Scotish women, whom Lambert made fun of sure wiped the floor with him. Good for her, she deserves it. Adam’s fans no doubt purchased a dozen CDs as gifts as do a lot of fans who have an A.I. favorite, but next week, I bet things won’t be so rosy for him or certainly as the weeks continue. Every year heavy hitters release their albums about this time but their fans don’t buy multiple copies.