Adam Lambert: Another Producer Getting Ready to Release Pre-Idol Material?

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Well, move over Hi-Fi records!   It looks like yet, another producer, in possession of material Adam Lambert recorded before American Idol, is hoping to make a buck off the new star. A single, called “Live The Live” is set to be released mid-July, according to the dance/electronica producer, J. Scott G.

The story begins with the discovery of a tweet by Adam Lambert fans last night. It seemed that Adam had been working on a song earlier in the day with a collaborator named J. Scott. G. who twittered this,

“Spent most of the day working on the new tune with Adam Lambert… This song is massive.”

On closer inspection, it became clear that J. Scott G. wasn’t actually “with” Adam, but working on a song he recorded with Adam months before he auditioned for Idol. In a recent post from his blog, J. Scott G. talks about a recent move to Austin, TX to work on a friend’s album. At the end of the post, he mentions working on an Adam Lambert song:

Oh yeah, you might also be wondering where the song with Adam Lambert is. It’s coming. I swear. I’m making the final adjustments to it and flying to LA soon to mix it. Look out for a mid July release… along with some amazing remixes. It’s all in the works now. I’ll also be starting a photo album of my adventures here soon on Myspace and Facebook, as well as some video blogs from the studio (and quite possibly the boat parties).

A blog post from his MySpace page makes his relationship to Adam clearer. About 6 months before his stint on Idol, Adam contacted the producer through MySpace, and the two eventually hooked up to write, produce and record a song called “Live The Life”.

Before J. Scott G. had a chance to do anything with it, Adam signed a contract with American Idol, and asked the producer to put the song “on hold.” He “gladly obliged,” finishing the edits on the song at around the time Idol wrapped up in May. The producer believes his meeting with Adam was destiny, and that he totally hit the motherload:

I never doubted Adam was going to do well in Idol from the moment he told me he made it, because of my underlying belief that the universe brought him into my life for a reason. But I mean, come on’ ¦ seriously what are the chances of something like this happening? One in a million? One in ten million? I might have had a better chance at winning the *actual* lottery to be perfectly honest (thank god I’m not a gambling man). So I challenge you all to ask yourself these questions. Are Adam and I just incredibly lucky? Or is there, perhaps, some truth in the concept of manifestation through positive thinking?

You be the judge. In the mean time, you’ve got to live the life. Man I can’t stop friggin smiling. (again, so grateful)

Seriously, has this guy NOT been following the Hi-Fi saga? I can’t imagine Adam is going to endorse the release of this single either, in which case, there’s a good chance his fans won’t be downloading. Not as lucky as you think, bud.

 
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  • wyked_whyspers

    Stormy
    Jul 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    I agree, as I usually do, with FifthHouseSun. The hardcore Adam fans aren’t just fans of his music, they are fans of the man himself, and are very protective of his ‘brand’  and respectful of his wishes. To any and all ‘producers’  or ‘co-writers’  out there hoping to cash in on Adam’s charisma and success without Adam’s official approval: Don’t make the fanbase angry. You will not like us when we’re angry.

    I am a huge hardcore Adam fan, I haven’t watched AI since season 2, and only got hooked this year because of Adam. I actually bought a ticket to the concert this year, and haven’t been to a concert in 20 years at least. No one is a bigger fan of Adam than I am, and in that vain, I would hope common sense just might prevail. I think I am taking Adam’s feelings into consideration a lot more than those who choose simply to rise to the level of fanatics.

    What exactly has this guy done to make people angry other than have a past musical association with Adam? How do you know this is not a good friend of Adams? How do you really know? What if Adam is prevented by 19E/RCA from endorsing any previous music? Whether he wants to or not?

    What if this is a friend of Adam’s and his fan base bashes the crap out him, how do you think Adam will feel about that? How do you think any of his past friends will feel about that? If this rises to the level of a witch hunt, then everybody loses, particularly Adam.

    How would anyone feel if they had someone they made art with, then that other person rises on their own to a level of stardom, then starts telling everyone that what they did with you was insignicant and shouldn’t count for crap? How long would you remain friends after that? That diva rumor would no longer be a rumor, it would become actual fact and this would hurt more than just one friendship. Adam has already stated one of his hardest issues has been maintaining his friendships through this AI season because of how busy he has been. Things like this will only make it worse.

  • wyked_whyspers

    These are demos that were done years ago and were unfinished. Now that Adam is a hot commodity someone has finished them. Adam has no say or input as to the the final product which goes out with his name on it. Legally the producers can do that if they want but that doesn’t mean Adam has to embrace it. It doesn’t mean his fans have to either.

    There is not enough information to make this assumption about this particular relationship or song. Adam has not addressed it and probably wont while he is touring.

    I am not saying anyone should purchase this song if they choose not to. I am only saying to not make an issue out of it and dont actively boycott it like everyone did Hi-Fi. Dont burn the guy at the stake for having a past association with Adam and hoping this will help him out.

    Like I said in my first post, I didn’t like what Hi-Fi did either, they attempted to sideline RCA and Adam by saying they where releasing his first single and debut album and that Adam was on board with this, when in fact it was a bunch of demos that Adam did not endorse, and then essentially laughed in RCA’s face and expected his fans to get on board. I was not on board and wasn’t at all against that boycott.

    However no reasonable person can believe every situation will be exactly the same. If I like the song when it comes out I will purchase it, if I dont then I wont, but I certainly wont actively take a part in hurting Adam’s personal relationships by bashing someone we know little to nothing about other than his OTT enthusiasm for having been lucky enough to work with Adam in the past.

  • wyked_whyspers

    I’m so done with this.

  • brextra

    ‘IF’  and this is a big if, his blog is accurate about the song and their relationship, then he isn’t really doing anything wrong. Adam contacted him and asked for them to work together on a song and he agreed. Adam asked him to put the song on hold until AI was over, he said no problem. AI is over and he is now working on the song again. Nothing wrong with that. He is also a struggling artist and now feels lucky he may have a song to release that might actually get some airplay and make some money because he hooked up with the right guy at the right time, simply because they admired each others work. Again, nothing wrong with that!

    I agree. My first reaction to all of this was, “Wow, Adam kind of inconvenienced that guy and he was nice enough to hold off on things.” Even though the guy wasn’t working diligently on it at the time, I still feel badly for him in a way. This doesn’t bother me as much as the Hi Fi stuff.

  • http://umbrellatoday.com Stormy

    What exactly has this guy done to make people angry other than have a past musical association with Adam?

    What has he done? He’s lied: “In the studio today with Adam Lambert …” He knew exactly how that phrase would be interpreted.

    I’m so done with this.

    Me too. :wacko_tb:

  • wyked_whyspers

    Stormy
    Jul 9th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    What exactly has this guy done to make people angry other than have a past musical association with Adam?

    What has he done? He’s lied: ‘In the studio today with Adam Lambert ‘ ¦’  He knew exactly how that phrase would be interpreted.

    I’m so done with this.

    Me too.

    Except you have completely mis-quoted him, that is not at all what he said, the twitter message was:

    ‘Spent most of the day working on the new tune with Adam Lambert’ ¦ This song is massive.’ 

    Just looking at the second half of the first sentence , “on the new tune with Adam Lambert”, could easily mean he was working on the song they recorded together. This does not necessarily mean Adam was actually present. Without further info, you cannot call this a lie. Please see my first post on this thread. Sorry it is so long.

  • wyked_whyspers

    Guess I’m not done after all. I just hate witch hunts.

    Adam will be the one who ends up suffering if his reputation is destroyed amongst his friends.

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    Hey wyke_whyspers- I have an open mind. If it is good, I will buy it. I do think Adam has many friends in the music industry. I don’t see this guy like the HI-FI people. Also, is it on a compilation album with other singers? It doesn’t seem like to me his promoting a full album, but just a single.

  • wyked_whyspers

    I honestly dont remember every detail at this time, I read it this morning, I think he said it was coming this summer, but didn’t state a single or album. But apparently he only has the one Adam song.

    Went and picked up a quote from his blog:

    PS. Stay tuned on the song. Right now I don’t know exactly how it’s going to play out as far as a release date’ ¦ but I assure you I have the right people on my side to work things out. ☠º

    No real details given.

  • lola

    How hard it is to be in Adam’s place right now. I know that he treasures friendships but with the way things are going, it seems like he cannot do what he wants to do to help his friends. I guess he never expected things to happen so fast for him. All I can say is let these pre-idol producers release their Adam materials. And I hope “certain” Adam fans would no longer interfere. Those who want to buy then buy it and those who won’t, then don’t. Don’t make life miserable for others. Live life and live positively.

  • Natasha

    Adam was obviously not happy about Hi Fi releasing his old demos. He said he was extremely disappointed with what Hi Fi did and the way they did it. That’s the reason I didn’t buy it.

    If he’s okay with this one then I’d consider buying it. If not, I probably won’t buy it.

  • LakesideUK

    I did have a momentary “Oh no…not again!” feeling when I read this headline, but knowing a little more, I don’t find my sense of fair play offended.

    Sure, the tweet about working on the “tune with Adam Lambert” is a tad ambiguous, but I’d give anyone a pass for that. Communicating in brief snippets like that will make it unlikely that you’ll always dot all the “i”‘s and cross all the “t”‘s. I doubt the intention was to deliberately mislead.

    If what he’s said is true, then this is a track into which Adam had proper creative input, not a demo where he was simply paid to show up and sing exactly as he was told. That makes a difference to me.

    Adam was clearly unhappy with the Hi-Fi situation (and having heard “Want” I’m not surprised!) but until I hear him denounce this I’m not going to assume anything. I’m certainly not joining in any witch hunts.

    If it’s a good track I hope it sees the light of day. If it’s bad…well, I doubt it will go anywhere anyway.

  • ladymadonna

    The failure of ‘Want’  means that Adam Lambert’s name alone won’t sell crappy songs.

    Outside of obsessed American Idol fans like us, no one even knows Want exists. There was no marketing or promotion for it. People can’t buy something if they don’t know its there to buy’ ¦.

    Well, there was more promotion thrown at ‘Want’ than most Idol singles get. That series of press releases generated a sizable amount of media coverage (I know my local radio DJs picked-up on the “news,” and if Seacrest and Perez are talking about it then people are hearing about it). And it got a radio push that many Idols and their fans would kill for, including an official adds date on CHR and HAC and a sizable ad on the login page to AllAccess. The result was a grand total of 20 spins, including one this week and one last week. A sales boycott by even the most “highly organized and informed fanbase” in the world could not stop radio from picking the song up if they wanted to. But they clearly didn’t.

    It just underscores the importance of producing material that people outside the Idol fanbase want to hear. There are a million of factors that influence that too – quality, timing, promo, luck. The fans may feel all-powerful now, but come November even the biggest, buzziest name in the Idolverse won’t move units or pick-up spins unless there is some external demand for the product.

  • ladymadonna

    Oh and I love the idea of the Idol Bridal Registry. Totally skirts those pesky Soundscan restrictions on bulk-buying practices, and what better way for the truly invested fan to share their special day with the one they lurve? I seriously think there may be a business plan in there somewhere….

  • Natasha

    Well, there was more promotion thrown at ‘Want’ than most Idol singles get. That series of press releases generated a sizable amount of media coverage (I know my local radio DJs picked-up on the ‘news,’  and if Seacrest and Perez are talking about it then people are hearing about it). And it got a radio push that many Idols and their fans would kill for, including an official adds date on CHR and HAC and a sizable ad on the login page to AllAccess. The result was a grand total of 20 spins, including one this week and one last week. A sales boycott by even the most ‘highly organized and informed fanbase’  in the world could not stop radio from picking the song up if they wanted to. But they clearly didn’t.

    It just underscores the importance of producing material that people outside the Idol fanbase want to hear. There are a million of factors that influence that too – quality, timing, promo, luck. The fans may feel all-powerful now, but come November even the biggest, buzziest name in the Idolverse won’t move units or pick-up spins unless there is some external demand for the product.

    Well if this proves Adam can’t sell Sony is really wasting money. They should pour everything into Kris pronto.

  • listen

    Well if this proves Adam can’t sell Sony is really wasting money. They should pour everything into Kris pronto.

    “This” proves nothing.

    There was no external demand by any of the fans, by Adam’s label, etc. So why would any of the DJs spin this? It was a crappy recording, Adam may have sounded great, but overall, the quailty was lacking.

    I think I will wait until Adam actually comes out with his first “real” album before I pronounce him or his record DOA.

  • reinharv

    The failure of ‘Want’  means that Adam Lambert’s name alone won’t sell crappy songs. Which has been true of every other person who was ever on the show as far as I can remember. Although, I thought Adam had enough buzz so that wouldn’t be true.

    Neither Adam or Kris is breaking any records in selling the S8 music. But I still think Kris has the bigger upside potential in actually moving the units in the USA.

    What I find puzzling is why “Want” was a failure. A real fan would be out there buying anything they could pre-Idol disregarding Adam’s personal request to his fans not to support it. He would have gotten royalties from those pre-idol songs wouldn’t he? Did Adam just find his “style” during A.I. and told people that those pre-Idol stuff isn’t the kind of music he’s doing anymore?

    I am a David Cook fan and I went out and bought his Analog Heart before it was pulled & anything else I could buy from Axium & NWK because I couldn’t get enough of him. You should have seen what his stuff was selling on e-Bay too. Listening to Cook’s earlier stuff I found he stayed true to himself & his style is quite obvious pre & post A.I. Sure his debut album no doubt had to conform to the label’s vision of what they wanted him to put out, but needless to say the “style” was still there. In some cases, some of his pre-Idol stuff was even better. However, I am still playing all of his music and haven’t tired of any of them yet. That’s a first for me.

    As far as “crappy” song versus the name goes…. This is true. I was a Blake Lewis fan and eagerly awaited his debut. After I heard his single, I didn’t download the album, didn’t buy the CD and only downloaded one song I liked off the album (a big .99 cent sale) even though I voted my fingers off for him and went to an Idol Tour concert & paid double the asking price just to get good seats.

    It is a fact that neither Kris or Adam broke any records from their AI8 season. I have a good sense of who Kris is and the kind of sound & music he’ll put out just based on his performances. I also bet that the stuff he did prior to A.I. didn’t change from what kind of an artist he showed us during the competition. I think he appeals to a broader audience & is radio friendly. I do not have any idea of what Adam’s album will be like and I doubt it will be anything like what he did on A.I. I don’t like that. I want to know what kind of an artist someone is right from the get go based on pre-idol music & what they actually did during the competition. I would go out on the limb to say that I think Kris will do better in the U.S. while Adam will do better outside the U.S. So both will do fine.

  • JackleFleur

    If you you J.Scott G, you would know that he has thrown everyone under the bus who has made his career. Every time he has any success, he decides his partners (band members) had nothing to do with it, and are actually holding him back. He pitches back-stage Diva-Tantrums, demands Mariah Carey style riders in his contract, and is the biggest out-for-himself POS ever met. I guarantee you this BS he is writing about “winning the lottery” is so full of SH*&.

    He has a band. No doubt the tiny amount od success this song brings him this year will make him diva-out on his band AGAIN. He’ll decide it is all about him, and they are riding his coattails. He’ll get a couple of gigs, act like an ass, diva-out on the promoter, and shoot himself in the face again.

    He has talked about having o re-learn the msic business, and promoters not returning his calls when he went solo, etc etc…. It is actually because he sucks solo, he is a total ass to work with, he has absolutely no draw for an audience, and pretty much everyone he has ever worked for hates him. He doesn’t understand that when he bailed his first band and went solo, they weren’t getting booked because of HIM. Solo, the promoters didn’t know it was THAT guy. Then he had to start another band to disguise NOT THAT GUY AGAIN reality.

    Total Ass. Total Backstabber. Total POS.

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