Adam Lambert and Kris Allen – A Phoney Feud?

Sorry, but I just have to say it. That producer who said how FABulous the “save” idea was when it caused the contestant to have one more horrific moment of humilation and rejection, explained it all, several days ago.

They don’t mind feeding every one of them into a publicity meat grinder to keep the ratings up. Of course this was a 19/Fox plant.

I think either this is coming from inside the AI producers camp…(translation: move over Gokey we’ve got another horse in the race now) OR this is the idiots at the tabloids digging up one of Kris’ early iphone confessionals where he jokingly talked about all of Adam’s accessories and twisting the words completely out of context and intended meaning.

Either way, so far if you read other forums it seems that both Adam and Kris fans (and Kradam fans of course) are laughing this off as completely ridiculous as it is obvious when you see them together that they are very good friends and the whole group has talked about how close they all are. If this is coming from TPTB I think it is entirely to set up the final 2 and ensure that Danny fans will line up behind Kris once Danny is booted.

I would think if there was a problem Kris (or Adam) would probably move to another room… with so many contestants gone I don’t think finding a new bed would be a problem.

Although Anoop wasn’t talking about this incident, I think he provides the real inside scoop in the interview posted right before this:

As the competition heated up, did it get tense in the house? à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Not at all. That was the amazing thing really. Quite frankly, when I started this process, I was expecting not to get along with everyone. I mean, I get along with people, but when youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re competing against each other, living in close quarters, I would imagine that it would have been a bit much, but the great thing about this group is that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and I think it shows on TV too à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ we really, really are very good friends.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I’ll take Anoop’s word for that.

Plus if you look at this week’s results show, who is the first to give Adam a big hug after he’s declared safe? Kris, of course.

Story is a bunch of baloney. However, I’d still love for Kris to “overtake” Danny … if he hasn’t already.

I think Kirsten captured it best in the Headlines comments today. She should really bring her post over here for an encore.

I thought this was satire. It is satire isn’t it??

I was trying to figure out what the thick book Adam was reading, and it occured to me…it’s called “Everything You Want To Know About 19/Fox’s Plans to Exploit the Contestants but Were Afraid to Ask.”

Adam = “Look here Kris, it says halfway through the competition they will leak info to the tabloids saying that the contestants don’t get along.”

Kris = “It really doesn’t say that, does it? Well I hope it’s Danny and Matt, because no one will believe we don’t get along.”

^ :laugh_tb:

I thought this was satire. It is satire isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it??

No, but it sure is funny!

LOL forever.

That’s hilarious, Adam and Kris appear to be really close everytime they’re together on TV!

Plus if you look at this weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s results show, who is the first to give Adam a big hug after heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s declared safe? Kris, of course.

Yea but do you think they’re going to scream and throw things at each other on the air? If you were fighting with someone you wouldn’t do it on national television.

If they were driving each other crazy why are they still in the same room? That house is big enough that they wouldn’t even have to see each other if they didn’t want to.

Why would TPTB float this idea? To try and cook up strife for a possible finale? I don’t think it will work and if they want some culture clash they should go with Adam/Danny.

If it’s coming from 19 or Fox it does bother me becaise it has the potential to influence Kris’s fans or viewers without a strong favorite to vote against Adam.

And aren’t Kris’s family usually some of the first people on their feet after Adam sings?

hello?

yes, the Enquirer broke the unfortunate story of a certain Democratic presidential case & his extra-marital affair. and boy, did they take a lot of victory laps for that one.

but they also are the people who insisted Patrick Swayze was at death’s door a year ago. And the ones who quoted unnamed sources saying that Taylor Hicks had gone to a restaurant in Seattle with a bunch of friends and behaved abominably bad. Too bad that Hicks happened to be on the tour bus at the time with all the rest of his season’s contestants, driving to the next gig.

Hmmmm. and wasn’t there something about David Cooks having a romance with some young dancer from “Dancing with the Stars”?

Garbaggio.

This should not come as a big surprise – thanks to mj, we all know the itunes sales trend now – last week around the same time, Simon started to spread the word he used the save so they will not have to use it for anoop – this week Anoop is gone! iTunes tell us Matt trailing behind Anoop – act 1

iTunes also tells us Adam is the clear front-runner – he is also intelligent, confident and unconventional. Unlike Adam, Kris is conventional both in life and in music – now probably the chosen horse to pull TPTB record deal. Time for act 2 from Simon and PTB. I am not surprised about the timing nor the context. It should be interesting to watch how Adam can manage to maintain his lead and possibly win the title. Can’t wait for Simon to start talking about the screaming, indulgent performances from Adam vs the brilliant, original performances from Kris

LOL. I don’t believe this for a second.

Don’t the Idols move out of the mansion this week anyway?

The “leaves his nail polish around” detail is a little too cute to be true.

Maybe they had one quarrel over space issues. That I could believe, because who doesn’t quarrel with their friends?

Sounds bogus. And yeah, exploitative.

No seriously, this is the National Enquirer. I thought everyone would be making wisecracks or something. Like, I expected an LMAO at this article.

I don’t believe this at all- mainly because it’s coming from the National Enquirer! the only reason I’m happy for this is mainly because this means it will end up as a Adam/Kris finale! Yay! I hate the idea of the culture clash though because why do they assume that gay men and straight men can’t get along? Geez.. and why is the gay one cast as the “evil” one?

The other thing is that I don’t think that Kris has the acting skills in him to pretend to like Adam! If anything, it seems like Kris, Adam, and Allison are especially close since they are from the same group together.

Sounds like they tried to respin the iPhone confessionals into something dark and sinister, but anyone who watched the show would realize Kris and Adam are friends fer realz.

LOL, I love how the article contradicts with everything: the fact that they’re always hanging together; love being roomies; Adam saying in his Confessional Kris is sooo laid back; Kris saying on Extra Adam’s the one they all lean on – he’s just a great guy, the one they all go to for advice/the one who looks after them; both guys being as genuinely nice, well mannered & respectful as they are.

I love how they’ve stereotyped Adam when he’s actually a clean freak :rolleyes_wp:

The article stinks of gay panic. That is, if the producers have nothing to do with it. Lovely how they’ve painted Adam as cocky and put all the blame on him. Another attempt to knock the guy down. The nice married churchy guy has to put up with his flamboyant gay roomate leaving his gay shit everywhere. Even the pictures they used tried to emphasize it with the whole Diva V wholesome Christian dude. God forbid a straight man and a gay man be FRIENDS.

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UGH. I really hope these guys are the last two standing.

i watched the confessional video that adam taped and he went on and on how he and kris are roommates and that they are close and get along great. i am really annoyed by this crap and them trying to paint adam in a bad light. i plan to write letters and demand to find out the source or insist upon a retractment. the whole “adam is gay” comes from where? kris?

this is hurtful to both parties and i would bet a complete lie.

This article is completely stupid:

When the author talks about kris complaining that the bathroom is messy it is BS. Kris does not complain often about Adam being a total mess, Kris just said in one of the iphone app interviews that Adam has a lot of bathroom supplies and products and that he really liked living with Adam.

And about Adam thinking he’s the front runner, so does 99.99% percent of the people who watch and create this show. I bet he’s flattered, but also feels awkward when the judges never have anything negative to say. Plus all six of his itunes songs are most likely in the top 100 songs right now. (the top 3 are) Also Adam is the only contestant so far to give credit to the band or the person who helped w/ the arrangement. He’s not cocky he has stage presence!

This is just dumb controversy that is completely untrue.

Adam and Kris are a team, who just happen to be the most current artists, have been in the same semi-final group, and are roommates. They are taking this contest by storm and they will both be in the final (they definitely deserve it) and will do just as great after Idol!

No seriously, this is the National Enquirer. I thought everyone would be making wisecracks or something. Like, I expected an LMAO at this article.

You don’t realize that publicists plant stories in the tabs all the time? They certainly do.

There have been rumors for ages about TPTB leaking info to the tabs. It makes sense they would, when you consider how much the show thrives on controversy.

People are laughing at the article. But they are sorta taking it serious too. The fact that there are tab stories about Adam and Kris–maybe planted by the producers– are just one indicator that the tide in this contest is turning.

MJ..i hope the tides are turning regarding danny. i did like him during auditions and i felt bad about his back story, however, i dont think that he should be considered a front runner at this point and i honestly dont know where all his votes are coming from. i think kris has been getting better and better and i have been hoping for a adam/kris/allison top 3…i dont think danny should go all the way or win.

Sounds like they tried to respin the iPhone confessionals into something dark and sinister, but anyone who watched the show would realize Kris and Adam are friends fer realz.

Who knows if Adam and Kris are really friends. You certainly aren’t going to be able to tell that from watching them interact on a television show.

I didn’t post this item to get people riled up over this stupid National Enquirer story.

In the end it really doesn’t matter does it?

The article stinks of gay panic. That is, if the producers have nothing to do with it. Lovely how theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve put the blame on Adam. The nice married churchy guy has to put up with his flamboyant gay roomate leaving his gay shit everywhere.

It does come off as gay panic. If this came from the producers it’s pretty sad that they would characterize Adam that way.

Maybe this is a sign that the show can’t stand the idea of having a winner who is gay.

People are laughing at the article. But they are sorta taking it serious too. The fact that there are tab stories about Adam and Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’maybe planted by the producersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ are just one indicator that the tide in this contest is turning.

Now, Ry-Ry will have to bring this up next week and we will get the adorable love-fest that is KrAdam. It will make them more endearing to the public. Plus, it’s the beginning of the ‘Kris and Adam’ pairing. Danny who?

The à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“leaves his nail polish aroundà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  detail is a little too cute to be true.

lol .. I laughed at that too … Kris is a married man .. I’m sure he’s had to put up with the odd bottle of nail polish being left lying around before.. unless of course his wife never wears it

Sounds like they tried to respin the iPhone confessionals into something dark and sinister,

Let’s just be thankful they haven’t twisted and used Adam’s bidet story about Kris …lol

MJ, your site and what you put into it is the best out there for AI news (love it, love it, love it) so I’m shocked that you even posted that. It’s the National Enquirer for pete’s sake. Who with any spark of intelligence reads that trollop? As Simon would say, “That was self-indulgent rubbish.”

This is reminiscent of all the hate the Gokey gang have been spreading towards Adam in Adam’s forum on AI’ and on the pages and blogs of Adam’s fans. They can see how high a margin Adam has over everyone else so resort to cheap tactics. Just makes me vote and recruit others to the cause that much harder. :p

Wait a minute…this is the national enquirer we’re talking about here….uhhh

For Adam’s sake, I hope Danny is there until the end because then Adam will get all the frontrunner backlash and that scares me. All of Danny’s fans would end up voting for Kris in the end b/c of the frontrunner stuff. It’s like last year…for either of the David’s to win, they needed to be up against each other in the end. That’s why the show wanted Castro gone so badly. Everyone loves an underdog, even if that underdog is less talented. I don’t even like Danny, but I can understand why he needs to be in the finale with Adam for Adam to win.

I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion as to who will win. A lot of people have seemed to be ahead, had a really bad night and found themselves booted. It could be any one of the last five standing if they out perform the others from here on in. Daughtery though he had it won too. Just look at his face when he had to go home in fourth place. So don’t think Adam is a sure thing. Some people don’t like his over the top style. They like a simple singer of songs like Kris or Danny. Matt appeals to those Billy Joel people out there and Allison to the young and the rock. Anyone can win.

I still think it’s just a tabloid creating a story just to sell paper.
It’s really hard to sell any kind of feud between this batch of contestant, they just seem really close to each other.

I am still not convinced about Kris being TNCO (the new chosen one), he is really an unconventional choice, he is not a belter and already has a really defined style. The most successfull idols are all big belter (Kelly, JHud, Carrie, Daughtry…)

This is from the Entertainment Weekly on-the-scene guy at results show last week. Looks like Kris, Adam and Allison are really close:

“As Paula snagged the Efron for a photo, I took note of the body language between Allison, Adam, Kris, Danny and Anoop, who were lined up on the bench together in that order. The first three sat thigh-to-thigh-to-thigh, naturally leaning in to each other to gab and laugh, clearly thick as thieves. On the other end, Anoop generally sulked, occasionally cracking a true smile, and always leaning a not inappreciable distance back and away from the rest of the crew. In between sat Danny, lighthearted but restive and a little awkward, like the guy at the high school lunch table who perpetually has to work at being the happy-go-lucky jokester.”

I’m not sure what Idol would get from starting this rumor. I guess any publicity is good publicity as far as they’re concerned. I really think they were hoping for a shocker elimination this past week when they put Anoop last. That didn’t work, so they’re trying to start a controversy. I mean, how could a married guy from Arkansas and a gay guy from CA possibly get along?!? Ugh! I hope Adam and Kris don’t even hear about this.

ETA: ^ I’m sure they will hear about it, since Adam googles his name. (in which case… hi, Adam :bye_tb: :laugh_tb:)

Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the Idols move out of the mansion this week anyway?

They do? Where are they going?! :blink_tb:

Adam seems like someone with the best people skill ever. On top of that, Kris seems like the most laid-back person ever. So the chances are that the tabloid article is a total BS, or these two guys are extremely good at fooling the viewers. LOL.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the National Enquirer for peteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sake. Who with any spark of intelligence reads that trollop? As Simon would say, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“That was self-indulgent rubbish.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

People read it, and I hate to tell ya, they’ve been known to break news stories, so what they print isn’t all garbage.

Although in the past few years, most gossip-type news stories break on the internet.

Why not post it? Most people with a brain know to read and take with a grain of salt.

And anyway, the point of my post doesn’t have anything to do with whether the story is true or not.

I don’t really care either way.

Victoria, I think they put them in condos, but I’m not sure. I think it’s because of competitive pressures.

The tides are turning how? Maybe I’m just not analyzing this deep enough, but this is just another OTT article about Adam. Except now, they are including Kris in it. To be honest, I think it also makes Kris look bad. It makes him look like he’s one of those intolerant christian right types (Bill O’Reilly). I wouldn’t be so quick to think people will think Adam is the bad one. I dunno. I laughed when I saw it, and though it was another media outlet trying to cash in on Idol.

As far as the producers are concerned. They just want to make money. They don’t care about any of the contestants. If Garfield the Cat could make them money they would sign him up. The media cares more about the so-called “culture clash” than the producers. And a lot of that is because gay marriage is in the national conversation right now so its a hot topic. The color of money is green, and that is universal. They aren’t going to turn it away just because someone might be gay or bi. lol

Looking at Itunes, Adam is bringing in the dough and so is Kris. I am pretty certain that is the only tide the producers are looking at.

Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait for Simon to start talking about the screaming, indulgent performances from Adam vs the brilliant, original performances from Kris

Ain’t gonna happen. To me, this seems like a cue that starting next week, they’re going to start hacking away at Danny to make room for Kris.

If this is a leak from the producers, could it be they want to get the Adam and Kris fans in a snit so that they will vote to keep their guy and thus making them the top two?

If this is a set-up for a “culture clash” finale, I would be quite disappointed. Especially since on the way Adam and Kris come across it is anything but that: small-town Christian boy becoming friends with a big-city gay dude.

I would agree that the article is bad for both of them. Kris comes across as intolerant and Adam as a mess. In some ways, it is worse for Kris.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it is a foregone conclusion as to who will win. A lot of people have seemed to be ahead, had a really bad night and found themselves booted. It could be any one of the last five standing if they out perform the others from here on in. Daughtery though he had it won too. Just look at his face when he had to go home in fourth place. So donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam is a sure thing. Some people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like his over the top style. They like a simple singer of songs like Kris or Danny. Matt appeals to those Billy Joel people out there and Allison to the young and the rock. Anyone can win.

No. Its not a foregone conclusion, but I think its pretty probable that the only contestants with a real shot at winning are Adam, Danny, and Kris. They have avoided the bottom 3 throughout the whole season. Matt and Allison have been there 3 or more times.

Adam has given the only real “moments” of the season with Mad World and Tracks of My Tears. Plus he has all the buzz which is why most people are betting on him. Kris has always bee the “dark horse”. He’s just not consistant so once week he’s up and then the following week its seen as a false alarm. Personally, I think the Internet is REALLY underestimating Danny’s fanbase, but I guess time will tell.

I know people use Daughtrey as the big example, but it wasn’t much of a surprise to me when he got voted off. At that time the producers were pushing K. Mcphee, and Daughtry was seen as “unconventional”. But he showed them in the end by being the most successful of that season. I don’t see the producers making that mistake again. Remember, its all about the money. We as fans get emotionally involved, but they only care about the green.

sweetie99v said:

To be honest, I think it also makes Kris look bad. It makes him look like heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one of those intolerant christian right types (Bill Oà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Reilly). I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be so quick to think people will think Adam is the bad one.
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I thought that, too! I’ve been afraid they were going to throw Kris under the bus to try to get Allison to the Top 3, since they always want a girl there. When I read this, I thought it was the attack starting. They’re trying to paint Kris as an intolerant bigot instead of the nice, laid-back guy that he is. He seems to genuinely love spending time with Adam.

I do love them thar conspiracy theories. They’ve got to be paying these PTB shit loads of money to come up with all the ins and outs that manipulate this contest every year. Every back story, every judges comment, make-up, lighting, costuming, song choice or lack there-of, band too loud, band too soft, horrible sound system, weekly line-up, the pimp spot, controlling dial-idol…man TPTB are really working hard!

By the way: Danny’s demise. It’s been a long time since he’s overtly mentioned the untimely death of his wife and casual new viewers may not be so caught up in the “tragedy” and are less apt to vote the “pity” vote for Danny. Now he has to start singing for his supper…and he just isn’t the whole package, IMHO. I think Danny may even go home next if his songs don’t measure up. I think the voting block that he had the first few weeks is being eroded just because people have become more familiar with the other contestants and like what they see.

And if TPTB have planted this story in the Enquirer, they sure chose the scum wad of rags. Couldn’t they get their story out there using a little more upscale medium.

The reason I knew this was total BS was when it said that “Adam was acting like an arrogant jerk because he knows he is the front runner”.

I mean, c’mon, does ANYONE believe that? Has Adam ever shown an ounce of arrogance?

Danny = Lucifer. Time to rehearse your fallen angel role, Gokey.

Hmmm, I guess if you take it as a shift in the competition instead of a feud between the two contestants then I can understand. If that’s what TPTB are pushing for then I’m happy.

Victoria, I think they put them in condos, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure. I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because of competitive pressures.

Ohhhh, okay. Thank you

Adam has given the only real à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“momentsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of the season with Mad World and Tracks of My Tears.

True, but you have to take into consideration the fact that most casual viewers consider Danny’s “Hero” (and for some, “What Hurts The Most” and Kris’s “Ain’t No Sunshine”) moments, as well. That’s why it’s so hard to tell exactly how it will play out. If only the internet Idol bubble was voting, I could make a pretty good guess, but it seems most casual viewers go for Danny. And who knows what could happen once they start de-pimping him?

The media cares more about the so-called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“culture clashà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  than the producers.

When producers cast Idol, singing talent is only one of the criteria they use to choose contestants.

Each one of these contestants is cast as a character. And around their characters, the producers build story arcs. So in that way, the producers care very much about the contestants and what they represent.

This isn’t baloney. This is how reality tv works. And American Idol, is above all a reality tv show.

I have no doubt that Adam’s sexuality was part of the consideration when he was cast on Idol. Like it or not he’s been cast as the openly gay guy who can sing. Danny is the conservative worship leader who lost his wife–who can sing. Notice that the “who can sing” part is second.

There’s no way the cultural implications of a Danny/Adam matchup is lost on the producers. No way.

Like people have said, I don’t think anyone here is taking the content of the article seriously, I think it’s more the motives and timing that people find interesting. We don’t know if it’s the Enquirer twisting the iphone confessionals or if it is something planted by TPTB to promote interest as we get closer to the finals.

Either way I kind of feel bad for Adam that once again he’s made out to be the bad guy … the inconsiderate, messy diva that’s getting full of himself, whilst Kris is being promoted as the good church boy who loves his wife so much that he’s getting kranky as he’s missing her so much.

As it’s the Enquirer most people won’t believe it but some who don’t spend their time online reading about how close the contestants are or study the body language on the results shows may think there’s a bit of truth in it.

If it is a story planted by TPTB that then asks the question .. why .. is it that they foresee a Kris/Adam finale so they’re trying to build up some good verses evil competition to make it more entertaining, are they trying to discredit Adam a bit and encourage people to vote for Kris (and if so why?, don’t they want Adam to win?). .. and then of course there’s the issue of whether Danny is no longer a front runner.

Of course there may be no hidden agenda at all and it could just be that they have nothing better to write about so thought they’d just make some stuff up.

It’s nearly 3am here in the UK, so too many questions for me to get my head around this time of the morning …lol

Slow news day? I mean, seriously. *rolls eyes*

Sweetie, I have to disagree with you that Adam has provided the only moments with “Tracks of my Tears” and “Mad World.” Those WERE both brilliant, but Kris has also had “Ain’t No Sunshine” and, most importantly, the breathtakingly beautiful “Falling Slowly.” That one had the audience on their feet in a HUGE standing ovation and had viewers at home nearly in tears. Unfortunately, Simon didn’t get to tell the viewers that it was a moment because he didn’t get to critique Kris that night. We didn’t get it until the next night when he said, “Kris, that was brilliant.”

this is just a classic case of editors trying to sell their magazine…..and of course, they would pick Kris (instead of Danny) bc they too have noticed the recent surge he has made in the voting popularity. its not difficult to make up a story when the two main “characters” are a gay guy from LA and a married, “conservative” from Middle America. if i were kris and adam, i would take it as a compliment….you know you’ve made it to the big leagues, when the tabloids start writting about you LOL. and yes, they totally used the itunes confessionals as the basis for their article. kinda funny.

I think if this was coming from tptb, the story would’ve broken on TMZ instead. I’m not taking anything about it seriously, at all.

I’m not a very knollish person, lol.

In the dance group video practices Adam and Kris are hanging around each other. Kris helps Adam in one video where Anoop is singing and is laughing and joking with each other…and this was THIS week.

Kris has said that he looks up to Adam and Adam says that Kris is laid back and easy going and not cranky. You can even see it on the tube.

But I think you are right MJ.

The producers of the show are probably the “insiders” who are supposedly leaking this. Surprisingly after it was leaked on itunes that Kris is more of a competitor than Danny Gokey in the finals I think that TPTB wanted a “Good Vs Evil” and with the terms jingoistic terms/labels like “Flamboyant” and “conservative” to make it like a boxing WWF match. Danny was losing steam so suddenly TPTB have to ‘hype’ a battle royal. Danny was already coined as the Anti-Adam, but after the downloads were shown and Kris was ahead of Danny there had to be controversy to get people to watch because Kris might be the the other finalist.

In a recent TMZ ambush the papz tried to get Kris to say something bad about Adam and he refused and instead stuck up for Adam.

So I think TPTB wants to ‘create’ controversy because of all the people the “insider” sourced picked it was the two TOP contenders on the show so far.

But if you watch videos of them on the show and even press photos Kris, Allison, Matt AND Adam area always hanging out with each. In some recent photos Adam and Kris are talking or chilling together.

After all how can you have a HYPED battle royal with two guys who are friends and like each other? So TPTB have to create controversy.

It wouldn’t be any fun to the causal viewer. I think the “insider” source is doing this for one thing: RATINGS. Because Adam is taking the crown and people want to see DRAMA, even if it is contrived. Some people have written that the show was getting boring because Adam was taking the prize and what Idol needs is people to stay involved in the show to the end for RATINGS, which means BIG MONEY, which means ‘create’ drama.

That is what I believe.

This is what I think for what it’s worth which isn’t much. I don’t care how much the idols love each other, when you spend as much time with people as they spend with each other, there are going to be problems. They are going to get on each others nerves and at time they are going to wish they could get away from each other, that is natural. It seems to me if this article is true the problems between Adam and Kris are more of a neat vs messy kind of thing (which i am sure has been a problem that many of the idol contestants have had to deal with) and to sell paper someone has decided to turn it into a gay/straight liberal/conservative, whatever thing. There is probably just some normal tension between them as I am sure there is with others.

I thought that, too! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been afraid they were going to throw Kris under the bus to try to get Allison to the Top 3, since they always want a girl there. When I read this, I thought it was the attack starting. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re trying to paint Kris as an intolerant bigot instead of the nice, laid-back guy that he is. He seems to genuinely love spending time with Adam.

Yup. I’m sure you and I aren’t the only ones who are thinking this. Honestly, at dinner tonight, my mom was saying that she was wondering if the producers were going to throw one of the boys under the bus so that Allison could get in the top 3. I come home and see this… it does make one go hmmm…….

Anyways, the public isn’t as stupid as some think….. lol Its really a shame to try to smear any of these contestants.

I seen many many pictures on different sites of Kris and Adam, and what I have noticed in the all the pictures is that in everyone of them Kris has his hand or arm around Adam, not the other way around. If Adam had his arm around Kris all the time you can bet they would have said that Adam is hitting on Kris. Kris doesnt mind body contact with Adam, so I’m sure he isnt having a problem with what Adam does in their room.

Am I the only one who understands that it’s critical to have Danny in the finale for Adam to win? Think about it….if Danny goes who is the recipient of all the frontrunner backlash? Adam will be. Danny has one role and that’s to buffer Adam’s frontrunner status. The show is not serious about Danny winning. How’s that for a conspiracy theory??? LOL.

It was like last season. In order for the either of the Davids to win, both had to make it to the finale. If David A were booted before Jason, Jason would have won b/c all of archie’s fans would end up voting for Jason. The oddsmakers explain it better than I do, but I think I got the point across here.

Oh, moments. I think everyone in the Top 5 have had moments on the show so far.

FWIW, I’m glad this was posted. The “facts”, if they are facts, are not as important as what this signals.

I do think this started with information leaked from 19E for publicity purposes. Personally, I take the information reported with a grain of salt; I think the whole gay man / Christian man angle is sensationalized, but I buy that they are The Odd Couple of sorts. I remember Kris and Adam both talking about them being very different, with the example of the amount of product Adam has all over the bathroom. I can believe that two grown men who are not used to sharing a small space could get on each other’s nerves. But – none of us knows these men and we really have no idea!

The more interesting part of this story, for me, is that it was leaked to the Enquirer at all… and that the Enquirer ran with it… all in the same week we got a glimpse of those download/sales numbers. To me, it signals a change in the wind, the tide, or whatever metaphor you choose. I’m betting that Adam and Kris are now the frontrunners, and the producers want us to know that. Fans should rejoice – because this also signals that Adam and Kris are officially famous. The Enquirer wouldn’t print this if they didn’t think it would sell.

Perhaps my being a romantic idealist is showing here, but I believe that while IDOL is a for profit show and there is some weeding up to the top 36, at least 9 of the contestants are not “cast” but voted in. Despite any plans for an ADAM storyline, he could be voted out easily if he couldn’t sing. I think there are machinations involved, but the show is not rigged.

If it’s a Adam/Danny finale they they want, why are they using Kris against Adam? How would this get Kris voted off?

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LOL at Adam and Kris hesitating whether to give a high or low 5.

Also I don’t think that “slip up” by itunes wasn’t an accident. I think TPTB have seen the ratings and suddenly the itunes numbers ‘accidently’ slipped out. I think Idol was surprised that Danny was not doing that well in sales, maybe in votes, but not in sales and that is what 19e wants. So if they ‘accidently’ released the numbers the media would pick it up and run with it to help create drama.

“Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just be thankful they havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t twisted and used Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s bidet story about Kris à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦lol”

Ha ha when I heard that story I laughed so hard, imagining that situation was just too funny!

MJ, your site and what you put into it is the best out there for AI news (love it, love it, love it) so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m shocked that you even posted that. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the National Enquirer for peteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sake. Who with any spark of intelligence reads that trollop? As Simon would say, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“That was self-indulgent rubbish.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

One- because it’s ridiculously funny. I want to know what kind of accessories Adam has lying around

Two – because it’s Adam. Everyone knows that an Adam post makes the hits on any site quadruple or something. God knows that’s what happens on my blog.

And i totally do not see TPTB pushing for a Kris/Adam finale or even a Kris in the final three. if anything, the judges feedback has always been a bit reserved, rushed, or off the mark (paging Randy!). i know a lot of anoop fans feel their guy got the short end of the stick but i see Kris receiving a similar treatment from the producers. i dont recall much pimpage (is that even a word!?! LOL). Maybe now w. the Itunes sales, they slowly are begining to see the potential. It just frustrating as a viewer to watch this guy (kris) toss down 3 GREAT/water cooler performances and NONE of the judges say he has a shot at the finale. Especially when you see the OVER-hyped love they throw EVERY week at Dorkey and Adam. And mind you, i love adam, he was my pick to win from the hollywood auditions…but even on okay performances (play that funky music…), paula cries and simon throws out “brilliant”. its a bit over the top. anyhoo, back to the article….i doubt producers had a hand in it….they wouldnt want to affect potential sales from Adam or Kris. its all about the money! (ok, its friday night, i need a life)

I’m not saying the producers did not consider Adam’s possible sexuality difference. I just don’t think it is the main ingredient to their pie. Especially since Adam isn’t the first possible gay/bi contestant on the show. I say possible because he hasn’t come out and said it himself, and I’m funny about stuff like that.

Anyways, the point I’m trying to make is I don’t think the producers would sacrifice making money. Besides, I thought the producers were British? If thats the case, issues such as this aren’t as big in Europe as they are here in the states. I do agree with you though, that the “clash” would be more easily created between Danny/Adam rather than Kris/Adam.

I also maintain that articles and media campaigns this will make Kris and/or Danny look bad. This is probably a poor example, but look at the Miss America Contest with that California Contestant. People did not like her using religion to say being gay is a choice and is wrong, etc. I’ve noticed that since Barack Obama was elected President, certain minority groups are tired of the intolerance and are fighting up against it. The worst thing a show wants is to look intolerant to certain groups of people. Especially since it airs on Fox. lol I honestly think the tide of intolerance and injustice is turning…. Articles like this makes the attacker look A LOT worst than the attacked.

The ratings are a little down this year, and there’s been so many small controversies whether its paula/kara fighting, speculation as to whether or not Simon coming back, etc., that this to me is just another way to get people to tune in. I just think they need to watch their tone on certain things. It could backfire.

Sweetie, I have to disagree with you that Adam has provided the only moments with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Tracks of my Tearsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Mad World.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Those WERE both brilliant, but Kris has also had à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t No Sunshineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and, most importantly, the breathtakingly beautiful à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Falling Slowly.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  That one had the audience on their feet in a HUGE standing ovation and had viewers at home nearly in tears. Unfortunately, Simon didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get to tell the viewers that it was a moment because he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get to critique Kris that night. We didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get it until the next night when he said, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Kris, that was brilliant.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Oh. I like Kris. Adam is my favorite, but I’ve always wanted an Adam/Kris Finale. I think he’s very talented. I’ve been trying to figure out why they’re putting Allison above Kris. The only thing I can think of is gender?? And yes, those were two very good performances that Kris did.

OBTW, I agree that the “culture clash story arc” is an obvious choice.

Don’t throw things at me. I don’t like this, either. But remember, these producers are the same people who put the Davids in Boxing robes last year, for goodness sake. Subtle is not a word in the 19E vocabulary!

They have lots of potential culture clash options. Adam with either Danny OR Kris works from a “culture clash” perspective. Now that Danny’s sales have slipped they producers could bring in Kris as the optional Christian man to ptich against Adam in a faux “battle”. Allison is Latina and female, and they could create some faux battle there with anyone of the others. Matt has a mole, or a pimple, or some sort of growth on his forehead and that sucker is definitely possessed, so…

Anyways, the point Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m trying to make is I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the producers would sacrifice making money.

Who is sacrificing money? Controversy sells Idol. Always has, always will.

I also maintain that articles and media campaigns this will make Kris and/or Danny look bad.

Yep. And it’s controversy. And it sells Idol. When the shit hits the fan, the producers make money.

Look, I don’t know if the producers planted this particular story, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did.

We must be getting near to the end of the season….all the shit is hitting the fan. These contestants all seem so nice (yea, even Danny bless his fat little cheeks) that, like last year, it is tough to find Drama so we will be seeing a lot more of the invented kind coming up in the next few weeks. Anything to keep the media attention on AI….and isn’t sweeps week coming right up?

Has anybody else had trouble finding the confessionals on YouTube. Maybe I just missed them but they all seem to have vanished. If they haven’t, would someone give me a link to one of them for Adam. Thanks.

I seen many many pictures on different sites of Kris and Adam, and what I have noticed in the all the pictures is that in everyone of them Kris has his hand or arm around Adam, not the other way around. If Adam had his arm around Kris all the time you can bet they would have said that Adam is hitting on Kris. Kris doesnt mind body contact with Adam, so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he isnt having a problem with what Adam does in their room.

Oh wow… you are really observant. I never noticed that before. LOL

They have lots of potential culture clash options. Adam with either Danny OR Kris works from a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“culture clashà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  perspective. Now that Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sales have slipped they producers could bring in Kris as the optional Christian man to ptich against Adam in a faux à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“battleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . Allison is Latina and female, and they could create some faux battle there with anyone of the others. Matt has a mole, or a pimple, or some sort of growth on his forehead and that sucker is definitely possessed, soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

You guys are cracking me up tonight!! LOL

LOL at Adam and Kris hesitating whether to give a high or low 5.

LOL, they are totally cute together.

One of the comments on the Idol Insiders site in response to the article links to TWOP where there’s more photos. Love the one of Kris wearing eyeliner, hahaha.

Okay, I feel sorta awkard not having something intellegent to say like the rest of you guys… but, all I’m gonna say is that this is B.S!!!!!!!!! Ugh. Adam and Kris are two genuine people. They’re obviously not faking it; cause it illuminates on stage and durring interviews. We all know Adam’s not arrogant… he’s been in the bussiness for too long. If I’m mistaken, it seems as if he’s just thankful and appretiative of the oppurtunity he’s been given. Same thing with Kris.

Have no idea if TPTB are responsible, but it wouldn’t be the first time. I couldn’t see the scan at work (the site was restricted), so I went down to the gift shop to look at the Enquirer. Well, the fact that at the bottom of the article they say they pay top bucks for gossip means it could be anyone making shit up to make a penny, especially if they had any small association with the show.

Wow, Kris and Adam must not have any interesting skeletons in their closets :wink_ee: if the worst that anyone can come up with is that they’re fighting over a messy bedroom like a couple of brothers sharing a bedroom! No matter who made it up, the Enquirer or the AI producers, it sounds like a tempest in a teapot. Adam’s sexuality and Kris’s marriage and religion are old news.

Does a mini scandal break out every year at this time? Last year was the first year I watched and I remember this was about the time that rumors about David Cook dating and dumping Lacy Schwimmer came out, along with the stories about David Archuleta’s father, and the “discovery” by a Fox reporter that Cook’s album Analog Heart was still for sale on Amazon. It does make me wonder if the producers plant exaggerated stories to make the competition seem more exciting, and for the free publicity of course.

Excuse me, but why does ANYONE actually believe this story? Think about it – “Adam is acting like an arrogant jerk!” seriously, does that sound right to you?

Everyone that has known Adam for years and worked with him has talked in glowing terms about what a great guy he is. No one EVER has mentioned the words “arrogant” with regards to Adam.

I am telling you, this wwhole story is a complete fabrication to sell magazines. i mean, it IS the NATIONAL ENQUIRER fer gosshakes people.

LOL, remember this from Season Five?

http://www.tmz.com/2006/04/19/whos-the-a-i-diva-hint-its-not-a-woman/

ETA: The producers wanted to get rid of Daughtry so much they signed him. :lol_tb: And Ace gives off such diva-vibes, doesn’t he?

I wouldn’t worry about this article. It was buried on page 2.

And we care why?

It’s not like they are going to duke it out on set. Maybe if they did, that would increase the ratings.

Since the source for both the Archie/Dad story last year and the Kris/Adam story this year is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“unnamed Idol insidersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , without witnessing anything firsthand it makes no sense for me to chose to believe one story and disbelieve the other based on personal preference or dislike of the subject of the story. I chose to disbelieve both stories.

I actually know one of the contestants personally, as well as many of the people who have gone out and sat in the “friends/family” section. This MUST be a publicity stunt, because the contestants all get along REALLY well. They are very laid back, and joke around much of the time. The place (mansion) is big enough to find space to yourself if needed. They help each other out with songs even! I do recall that when asked in an interview, ALL of the other contestants pointed to Adam when asked who was like the “camp counselor” to the others. He’s the one they all go to when they need an emotional lift. Also, from personal sources, Kris is VERY easy-going and laid back. Not much gets under his skin. That being said, I’m sure that being a newlywed, Kris would much rather be spending more time with his wife, and not Adam! However, she has moved out there to be able to spend time with Kris when it is available.

I read when the rooms were assigned that Kris and Adam were together because they were both neatniks and it was better to put them together. Kris did mention that Adam had more stuff in the bathroom but only in way that was meant to be funny. Having said that, do I really care if they are great room mates, I really only care if they keep on doing great performances. I really think Adam has the star power but only time will tell what the outcome will be.

It’s all phoney baloney. Judging from the interviews on Idol Extra and each contestant’s confession Iphone video they all get along very well. It’s made up just to sell their magazine..period. Hopefully the contestants can address this made up stuff sooner rather than later in the media.

It seems like the whole of the Idol staffing is comprised of “unnamed Idol nsiders” and “disgrutled recently sacked Idol employees” who turn up every Monday and Tuesday to leak fake spoilers.

When Cook and Archie were about at the same stage of the competition some Idol “Insider” ‘leaked’ that Archie’s dad refused to give him water. The media ran with it and made Jeff Archuleta a villain, and Archie was pummeled in the media.

But when asked Archie said it was not true and it really bugs him even to this day. David said he was old enough to get his own water and that incident never happened, but what it did do was create ‘drama’ and since by then Cook was reportedly ahead, Archie’s dad became the villain of the show.

The same is probably happening now since the shows “implied” villain Danny Gokey is losing steam while Kris is now gaining, but is not the “hero” or leader in the show like Cook was last year.

The show was hoping for a “Villain” Gokey VS the “Hero” Adam, but it appeared that Kris was now gaining by working hard, but the show is still “reality” tv which relies on drama, not artistry or hard work.

So is the show and it’s producers now going to make Kris Allen the “villain”?? Who knows.

Remember this is “reality” TV.

If I’m going to play the “it was planted by TPTB game”, then they must be trying to keep Adam from winning. It’s very unflattering to Adam. There has been a theory all along that they wanted Adam to go far, but would throw him under the bus once it got close. For a more traditional winner.

I don’t see any of them thinking they “have it won”. Ricky Minor even hinted strongly that Adam thought he was going home (the thank you guy), and Anoop said you wouldn’t believe how many of them thought they were going home. Simon looked very nervous for Adam. I don’t think there are any huge egos on the show. So why would they want to portray Adam like that?

I can certainly see some reasons they’d rather Adam not win. They do use the media to influence the contest at the end. Look at how all the judges made the whole talk show circuit to drum up support for Cook. There was some Archie nastiness there. Then Dadchuletta. Then Slezak and others tore into Archie. I see Slezak and all that bunch taking jabs at Adam this year so maybe it is all a plan. LOL. Conspiracy fun. But, it has been part of this game.

I really don’t care who wins. My wish has always been for Adam to make at least 4th. Then, I’m good. The cultural story would make a bigger media splash if Adam left early in a shocker. Adam still would be huge and think of the publicity.

Well, it looks like Simon wants Adam and Danny in the finals. Here is the article link: Article

Based on this, if the conspiracy theories are correct, then the producers are trying to hurt Kris…. not Adam…….

Simon Cowell picks Adam Lambert andà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦who? for Idol final
Posted by: Jill Serjeant

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  still has five singers left in the competition. But acid-tongued judge Simon Cowell has already decided who he would like to see in the final round next month.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d ike to see Adam (Lambert) and Danny (Gokey) in the final because they are the best two singers,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Cowell told reporters at a TV industry event in Los Angeles on Friday.

Adam is hardly a surprise as heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been the clear favorite of all four à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  judges for weeks.

But Cowellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s choice of Danny might come as more of a surprise to fans after some of his lukewarm comments recently. On Tuesday, Cowell called Gokeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance in disco theme week à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“clumsyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Cowell has an option to sign the eventual winner of the talent show to his record label and his comments are influential. But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still America who gets to vote for their à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

So has Simon got it right?

adam all the way!!

I can certainly see some reasons theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather Adam not win.

When someone looks like they are a forgone conclusion winner, people stop watching. They have to make it look like it’s a tight race up until the end.

Well, it looks like Simon wants Adam and Danny in the finals..

The only time Simon gets the top 2 right is when it’s a insanely obvious (Ruben v Clay, David v David)

This is such BS it’s ridiculous. I agree with whoever said up thread that this is the time of the year when all sorts of “drama” starts being spilled. Last year was BEYOND ridiculous. Between daddy-gate, Lacey-gate, David’s dying brother-gate, David’s-stealing-songs-again-gate, and Analog Heart-gate, you almost forgot that the kids can actually sing. Bottom line, though, any sort of drama that the producers can dig up does bring interest and thus, money. Even if it’s fake, they’ll take the chance.

I sincerely DOUBT that Kris and Adam are not getting along. They seem chummy on the show, and even if they aren’t the best of friends, you can see that there is at least an amount of respect there. Regardless though, you can see if happening now…it will be gay-idol Adam, flamboyant and glamorous versus the representative from clean-cut conservative middle America: Kris or Danny.

I can’t wait to see what the darn tabloids cook up next.

I can certainly see some reasons theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather Adam not win.

What reasons? I’m curious to see what reasons you see, because I don’t see any. Everyone has some negativity said about them. Thats just the industry. But Adam is actually selling, and driving positive buzz. That would only get bigger if he won. What more could they want?

How childish is this? There is a real world out there, and we should be worrying about someone getting pissed cause another someone left his nail polish laying around? Good grief. Sure sounds like the office of TPTB. They don’t have Anoop to kick around anymore, so they created more chaos. Talk about jumping the shark.

Based on this, if the conspiracy theories are correct, then the producers are trying to hurt Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. not Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

So we are back to the double fake. They really do want Danny in the final, but they know the pimpage is backlashing, so now they need a backlash against Kris. Maybe the TPTB have read the on-line criticism against Danny (you know they have to watch Idolatry) and so they need to soften Danny’s image by portraying Kris as intolerant. Everyone says Adam is a great guy and humble. So this makes Kris look like he sucking on sour grapes and making stuff up?

I wonder how Kris and Adam are taking this. This is probably freaking Kris out alot more than Adam since Adam could wallpaper the mansion walls with media coverage he has had about his personal life. I’m sure this is much tougher for Kris and his wife.

Or we have yet a third conspiracy. Maybe TPTB know many of Anoop fans feel that he was treated badly on AI. And if there is an impression that TPTB planted this story to make Adam look bad so they can get rid of him, I think the Anoop fans might rally to Adam, garnering Adam more votes and ensuring his place in the finals?

I could go all night with this. Maybe that’s why I’m not married anymore? :smoke_tb:

Well, Simon hasn’t gotten the memo that it’s an Adam vs Kris final yet. He’s still pushing for Adam-Danny.

Wow, really? I haven’t read any of the comments, but this is the most obvious piece of BS I’ve read in awhile…from all personal accounts, and by that I mean the video tape of the two guys in question, they love being roommates. Kris may be conservative, but that certainly does not mean he has a problem with Adam’s “lifestyle”. Honestly, that really gets to me…relying on stereotypes much? As far as Adam goes, he seems like a rather soft-spoken, considerate, really nice guy. Regardless of their preference, in ANY manner, I think they’re more alike than they are different, as they both seem down to earth and caring. This is turning into a rant, but I can’t believe people would pick apart such a non-issue. I love that they’ll probably be in the finale together and seem to genuinely appreciate each other…shades of Taylor and Elliott, if you ask me.

Ah, don’t you love manufactured drama?

I personally think Kris = Elliot, Adam = Taylor and Danny = Katharine, not in singing style, but in perception and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“roleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  in this idol drama. A talented dark horse against a fan favorite online (and on this site, lol) and an early judge favorite (who is mostly disliked on this site). While Kris is very talented, I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him overwhelming all of Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans. I could be wrong, but this season just seems similar to that Top 3 storyline.

Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no way the cultural implications of a Danny/Adam matchup is lost on the producers. No way.

You don’t have to convince me. I always thought they might be going for something along those lines. I mean, the NY Times is already writing articles about Adam. You can’t tell me they don’t understand the significance of putting someone who is supposedly religious and conservative like Danny against him.

Well, Simon hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t gotten the memo that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an Adam vs Kris final yet. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still pushing for Adam-Danny.

Hmm. Interesting.

I really don’t get TPTB’s obsession with Danny, but that’s for another post. Geez.

But if I’m busy talking about Kris, won’t I forget about Danny (bats eyes rapidly)?

But if Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m busy talking about Kris, wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t I forget about Danny (bats eyes rapidly)?

Yes, but only until the top three video packages are made. Then the story of Danny’s journey and the loss of his wife will be reintroduced, through no fault of his own.

I must say, I am amused that this thread has over 100 posts over a story no one believes is true. Glambert really is the man, huh? I bet if this story had been about Matt vs Kris there would be like 2 responses. Heh.

I must say, I am amused that this thread has over 100 posts over a story no one believe is true. Glambert really is the man, huh? I bet if this story had been about Matt vs Kris there would be like 2 responses. Heh.

Very very true. lol

On another note, Ok Magazine ( link) has a story where the contestants are asked their pre-show rituals, and Danny’s response is “making the right choices in life”.

Its obvious who he is catering to in that answer huh?? lol

Or we have yet a third conspiracy. Maybe TPTB know many of Anoop fans feel that he was treated badly on AI. And if there is an impression that TPTB planted this story to make Adam look bad so they can get rid of him, I think the Anoop fans might rally to Adam, garnering Adam more votes and ensuring his place in the finals?

ooh…so now we’re up to a triple fake out…this game is highly entertaining.

Also, someone mentioned the TMZ clip a couple of weeks ago and I saw that somewhere else, it was both Kris and his wife and both of them defended Adam and his wife even said “No, we like Adam, he’s our friend.”….sounds pretty vitriolic to me….

I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care who wins. My wish has always been for Adam to make at least 4th. Then, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m good. The cultural story would make a bigger media splash if Adam left early in a shocker. Adam still would be huge and think of the publicity.

You know, I think I’ve decided that I either want Adam to win (my first choice) or I want him to go out 4th, that way I can get my Tuesday and Wednesday evenings back. I really like Adam, Kris and Allison and I think they all already have potential for a great career past Idol but Adam is really the only one that I watch the show for.

ETA : That OK article, hilarious.

And it makes me think that the memo that Simon got said that Kris is kicking his ass at iTunes but Danny still has that mysterious block vote and TV ratings are king.

Really what does it matter? Like either of these idols fans aren’t going to vote next week like rabid dogs no matter how the performances are? The season is at the point where you could turn OFF the sound feed from the show and America would still vote.

I don’t have enough brain juice to even think about what this might possibly implicate.

It could mean Kris is replacing Danny as a frontrunner.

I don’t know, but it always seems to me that even though they compliment Kris appropriately after his performances, the praise seems lukewarm somehow, like they really don’t want to push him. So, I have to ask myself is he really pulling ahead, and they’re trying to hold him back?

It’s tricky, but Danny really is playing to a particular fanbase, and it’s one that he and Kris could possibly share. If any of that key fanbase watched the Dove Awards, Danny Gokey’s story was there, front and center.

It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I’ve said this before, and I am sure many don’t agree, but I have said that Adam has been a “pawn” for ratings. I don’t think he will be the next Idol. I have said that a real scandal about Adam will come to light right before top 3. I hope I am wrong.

Wonder what will Kris and Adam feel when they saw this news. Probably feel hilarious. But struggle is they don’t have chance to tell the trues.
Seriously, I think they already read the news.

Okay, I’ve read comment responses to this story at three different places (twop, mjs and ontd) and so far, the consensus is this: That story is a bunch of crap.
It’s funny how we’ve all come to virtually the same conclusion. Maybe if we couldn’t all produce about 25 pics and 10 gifs of Kris and Adam being buddy-buddy, it might have passed muster.

I think if there was a “real scandal” out there someone would have dug it up by now.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve said this before, and I am sure many donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t agree, but I have said that Adam has been a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pawnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for ratings. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he will be the next Idol. I have said that a real scandal about Adam will come to light right before top 3. I hope I am wrong.

If there was going to be a scandal, it would have been about those pictures that came out like 2 months ago.

I think if there was a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“real scandalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  out there someone would have dug it up by now.

Yep. I don’t get why some think that because he is gay and has been flamboyant in his lifestyle that there has to be some deep, dark secret out there waiting to pounce out of the shadows.

I’m ready for Adam to move on. Idol always loses it’s fun at the end. The kids are worked to death, so much pressure, so much manipulation. Voices worn out. It’s really not that important who wins. I’ll vote each week for him cause I know he wants to win, but I’m not going to cry about it. I’m ready to hear him blog, on myspace, and interviews.

Read the advertisement for Pink’s US tour that just went up and tell me who it sounds like:

“Now P!nk brings her Funhouse to select US markets!
Part rock show, part club night, part cabaret, part Cirque Du Soleil, the Funhouse tour has to be seen to be believed.

Adam totally fits into what is relevant right now. That’s what I want to see from him.

But there is room for Kris. Archie’s doing well. I’m fine with Kris winning. But, like Simon, I happen to think Danny and Adam have the best voices. People seem to agree that kris doesn’t have a strong, unique voice, but that he can tell a story. If telling a story can win Idol, then good for him. (I do think closing out the tour telling 5 stories after Danny, Adam, Allison and Matt is going to be a tough sell once you’re in those big stadiums)

If there were such a problem, surely one is mature enough to demand, and get, a separate room. Gotta be a ploy, unless Kris is trying to save Adam, and Adam is interested. OR another type of cconversion process is going on.

Please, this story is pathetic.

Publicity, ratings, drama, whatever… that is what sells (and gets us commenting)

What’s next, Allison and Adam fighting?

DOES ANYONE THINK IT IS WEIRD THAT BOTH ADAM AND DAVID COOK HAVE BOTH AN EYE TATOO ON THEIR WRIST?? kool! on the ok magazine website it talks about his tatoo meaning “the eye of horace” for protection or something,…i wonder if david cook’s is the same one!

The post that JKL was talking about (a poster from TWOP made a great medley of Kradam pics, to show just how ridiculous this whole story is):

Hm… hope this works.

1. That article is a riot. The only thing they can come up with is that Adam leaves his nail polish out? Get real.

2. If you could really cut the tension with a knife, I don’t think they’d be standing next to each other in that Brit Week pic two stories down on the blog.

3. I guess AI is short on a manufactured scandal. Maybe “Idol sources” could leak that Allison is bullied by her parent. Oh . . . yeah . . . . they did that last year.

one more try…

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3182890&view=findpost&p=11665072

I must say, I am amused that this thread has over 100 posts over a story no one believes is true. Glambert really is the man, huh? I bet if this story had been about Matt vs Kris there would be like 2 responses. Heh.

:lol_tb:

Did anyone notice the ad with the big dollar signs at the bottom of the article?

It says:
“We’ll pay $ BIG $ for your Celebrity Gossip”

In other words,” Let’s see how creative you are in making up lies! About celebrities! People you don’t know, but can pretend to know! Just say your an Insider! We like that! We don’t have to name sources! It works! No one cares!
*See Story Above* as example of what level of crap we will accept!”

….cay,

where does Simon make this pronouncement.

….like Simon, I happen to think Danny and Adam have the best voices.

I missed it.

http://blogs.reuters.com/fanfare/2009/04/25/simon-cowell-picks-adam-lambert-andwho-for-idol-final/

SIMON PICKS ADAM VS. DANNY FINALE

To all the folks who keep trying to comparing Adam to Chris Daughtry:

There is no real comparison between Chris Daughtry and Adam or Kris Allens AI performance records.

Chris D. had a very weak performances in the Top 10 and Top 5 rounds, was in the Bottom 3 on in the Top 7 round and was awful on his final week (Top 4) doing Elvis Presley. One reason Chris might have been surprised he was voted off was that Katherine, who was with in in the B2, had two even weaker performances.

thanks 1212

Interesting. Hadn’t seen that twist. Don’t you know he’s getting a good laugh out of that.

It could be a bunch of garbage, or it could be, as folks are speculating in todayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s headlines thread, that peeps on the inside are feeding the tabs info to cause a little controversy as we head into the final weeks of Season 8.

And if that was their intention, they succeeded because a lot were discussing the issue. You can look at this site, even this thread, as a microcosm of the larger fandom and you can see that it’s all atwitter about it, even if some of it is just amusement at such poppycock.

It’s not so much whether the story is true (and all signs point to “not”), to me it’s the fact that I’d expect them to use Danny, not Kris, opposite Adam in this sort of story. Whoever made up this story thought Kris would draw more readers than Danny, cause honestly they’d be interchangeable in the story. (and the accompanying pic sure looks better with this pair, lol)

If TPTB did plant this it’s very interesting timing considering the iTunes leak we got yesterday showing Kris as a plausible contender for 2nd.

With Adam SO far ahead they have to create drama somewhere, so now it’s the hot suspenseful race for #2 between Danny and Kris.

In terms of the tv show it doesn’t matter to TPTB who wins, really. It’s getting people to tune in for Final 2. If people just think as they have all season that it’s Danny/Adam, they’ll get bored. At least this way there’s a little uncertainty over who will face off with Adam.

Also: if this was planted in the tabs it’s not the official line yet, so Simon *would* still be talking up Adam/Danny. This way they get the idea started “out in the wild” and let people think they came up w/it all on their own. wink.

I think it is a planted story by TPTB “Idol Insider” like the Daduletta thing last year about Jeff denying Archie water which led to the show implying that Jeff Archuleta also picked David’s songs.

It really bothered David:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFjyU4yzGc

I think the shows is either trying to have people turn against Kris to save the Adam/Danny finale or if Kris is going to be in the finales make Kris into a ‘bad’ person so the viewers can root for the hero ie: the person in the lead, like they did to Archie last year.

The more drama the better for the show, but I feel sorry for the contestants who mainly want to be known based on their talent.

Even though Kris is my favorite I can understand why Simon would think Danny would be better in the finale. Danny IS a stronger singer than Kris and he probably would make for better TV personality wise. As much as I’d like to see him go far I can’t imagine Kris tackling the inevitable coronation crapfest which probably will be one song this year and likely a song with big glorynotes. I have no problem with him wanting him there either. I don’t mind Danny and when/if Kris leaves he’s the one I’m going to be voting for.

There is nobody out there promoting Danny Gokey more prominently than Paula Abdul. There is nobody out there promoting Adam Lambert more prominently than Paula Abdul. Is Paula Abdul doing this to promote a showdown between Christian fans and “gay rights” advocates? As Bruno might say, “Ich don’t think so.”

On the AI documentary about Christian contestants that aired on the Gospel Music Channel before the Dove Awards, Chris Sligh said that the AI crew was always very tolerant and even welcoming toward the Christian contestants during season 6. Beyond exploiting all the talent for ratings and album sales, I doubt that TIIC have a political agenda.

As someone who cast backlash votes for Diana DeGarmo in the AI3 finale to protest the ridiculous pimping of Fantasia that ruined season 3 and harmed talented contestants including George Huff, Jon Peter Lewis, and most famously Jennifer Hudson — and as someone who instantly regretted casting those stupid backlash votes — I know firsthand how easy it is to be manipulated by TIIC or by the backlash toward TIIC. That’s my perspective on the Gokey controversy — we don’t have to let ourselves be manipulated on one side or the other.

I think TIIC calculated Danny’s contest potential as talent plus compelling backstory = ratings bonanza. Personally, I see Danny as socially awkward yet probably genuinely dedicated to his church and his ex-wife’s memory. How he behaves in interviews and onstage is exactly how he behaved at dinner with Chris Sligh and Jason Castro, according to Sligh’s blog post. I also think Danny does have vocal musicality — remember his Hollywood Week gospelized arrangement of “Somebody to Love”? — that can be overwhelmed by emotion. But his “blue-eyed soul” genre is not my favorite as it has been done to death on AI and I prefer the fresh sounds of Adam and Allison. YMMV — no, duh.

I wonder when all the gay panic stories will finally go the way of the Dodo? Generally speaking, that is. I mean – who’s writing this tripe? Everybody has gay friends, gay relatives. The only people caught up in all this hate stuff are rather sad and stunted à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and not relevant. I’m just so tired of it. Kris and Adam are phenomenal performers – and all around nice guys. So why create drama where it doesn’t exist? And I am SO over the whole gay/Christian thing. Gay people ARE Christians – and Lutherans, and atheists and who knows what else. Adam is Jewish. Would the Enquirer try and exploit THAT if they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the whole gay issue? Argh!!! And by the way – Adam hasn’t said anything either way. The only clue anyone has to his preferences are those Burning Man photos and his old MySpace page (now missing) which says he likes to play with both boys and girls. So who knows, really? I think he’s smart to keep the question open, actually.

Anyway….Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just here for the music. The rest of this belongs on an episode of ‘Gossip Girl’. You know – The Enquirerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d get more play out the whole Paula/Simon feud. She really went at him on the Nightline interview. If they want drama – that’s where to find it. Leave everyone else the hell alone.

I have already seen this all over the net. It is a really clumsy attempt, if it is TPTB. Have they honestly not paid a moments attention to the body language, interaction and chemistry with Adam and Kris? They seem like really good friends. The whole group has a tight feeling to it, but these two especially seem like BFF’s.

This is a pathetic attempt.

Adam is still getting my all of votes.

There is nobody out there promoting Danny Gokey more prominently than Paula Abdul.

That would be Kara. She called him pitch perfect (he most certainly wasn’t) and has never said anything negative (in my memory). Please feel free to dig up the critiques if I’m wrong.

That said, what is TIIC? I’m very confused.

ETA: That said, this is a non-controversy. It’s a page two story on a tabloid no one believes. It’s funny. Nail polish! Calling a wife! The horrors!

DOES ANYONE THINK IT IS WEIRD THAT BOTH ADAM AND DAVID COOK HAVE BOTH AN EYE TATOO ON THEIR WRIST?? kool! on the ok magazine website it talks about his tatoo meaning à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“the eye of horaceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for protection or something,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦i wonder if david cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s is the same one!

It’s called the “Eye of Horus“, who was a powerful Ancient Egyptian God and it signifies soul rebirth. I know this cause I’m Egyptian myself, and I have the same tattoo on my back.
I dunno about Cook’s one though…

David Cook just has an eye, a very creepy eye, but still, no gods associated with that tattoo…unless there’s a god of creepy bad tattoos out there.

Well if it is an attempt to influence votes it is lost on me. Kris is my favorite but if he goes before Final 2 Adam has all my votes.

I hate to sound condescending but I would imagine that many people who read The Enquirer are many of the same people who watch the cheesiness that is idol.

The producers have inside knowledge as to the number of votes each receive. Perhaps Kris has moved up past Danny, and he and Adam are now the two front runners. Plus the producers have access to the “leaked” Itunes numbers and are now eyeing Kris as a potential cash cow.

Adam is my fave this year because I tink he is effin awesome and because HE IS GAY- which for me is just icing on the cake. I love the way he carries himself and think it is good for middle America to see a gay man who is not the effeminate sterotypical gay man of their bigoted nightmares.

Kris is the safe choice for many. Cute and all-american. He ¨’s also had a couple of almost “moments” . He represents what middle America likes and is accustomed to..

I am sure , completely sure, that the producers want Adam in the final, because when all is said and done it is a tv show after the ratings. Pitting the charasmatic great performer who is Adam, against one of the worship leaders (danny or Kris) in the scenario of “duelling culture clash” would undoubtedly generate more excitement and voters willing to vote like maniacs to ensure their guy wins.

I want Adam to win. But I dont have the emotional investment that I had with DC last year, because I believe that no matter what, Adam has a great future ahead of him- with or without the win. The others do not.

everything Layla said

Totally agree. And I would say there is probably a bit of truth to this story but a different spin has been put on it. I imagine Kris has never met anyone like Adam before, small town Arkansas conservative boy put in with a, hmmmm pick words carefully, flamboyant outgoing gay man. I am sure he doesn’t know what to make of him some of the time. They are real chalk and cheese! And if he is a neatnick and Adam is a slob it probably does annoy him. I had a roommate in college who was the world’s biggest slob and while we were great friends, she annoyed the hell out of me as she never emptied any ashtray she used (I didn’t smoke), never changed her sheets the entire year and never picked up anything! Yet she was always immaculately turned out. So I wouldn’t be surprised if there was that, but I don’t sense any animosity or tension between them.

This all takes me back to last year with the Jeff Archuleta ‘stage Dad’ story and we all know how true that turned out to be. :rolleyes_wp: AI falls into the same pattern every year. They want to drum up controversy and who better to target than the guy who’s expected to win it all against the dark horse who’s moving to the forefront?

In any interactions I’ve seen between Adam and Kris, they seem pretty tight and genuine in their respect towards one another. As a matter of fact, they all do. In a competition with this much stress and dreams on the line, they’d never be able to keep up a charade for this long.

If there is a God, Adam and Kris will be our final two.

This all takes me back to last year with the Jeff Archuleta à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢stage Dadà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ story

… but this story has zero bite to it. Unless there were some kind of on-air scuffle I don’t see people latching onto this story in the same way they did the Jeff A story last year.

If it’s an attempt to influence votes by making Adam seem so arrogant, then I agree that Kris must be killing in the vote totals. Maybe he’s always been the highest vote getter. The general consensus is that Kris would beat Adam easily in the finale. Safe nice winner.

Adam has success written all over it. I love the description of Pink’s tour. On the heels of Britney and Lady Gaga. Concerts are the only place artists make money. Adam’s will be (like Pink’s) Part rock show, part club night, part cabaret, part Cirque Du Soleil. That is what is hot right now and what is selling. Adam doesn’t have to win. He’s the only contestant who can put on a show like this – just what Pink is doing.

I think TPTB wanted Adam to get this far. They know he can put on a show like Pink’s right now. But, now, seeing that Kris is winning, they need to build him up.

I HATE that they make Adam arrogant which is exactly opposite from what everyone says about him. But maybe they think they have to dirty him up a bit for him to keep that edge. Cause for all his leaked pics, wild performances etc he still comes across as a sweet, adorable ,well mannered, extremely talented kid who has a great Idol back story – the Kid whose been made fun of his whole life, bullied as a kid, worked his butt off in a very hard industry to break – one with very few openly gay artists so he’s breaking barriors (WITHOUT the support of many in the gay community who get so pissy/jealous when one of their own does well and act like women did to each other years ago), dealt with a lot of discrimination, and finally reaches a goal he’s been reaching for since he was born. Not exactly rock star material. People of all ages seem to like Adam exactly as he is.

The only question I have is this: If the producers just moved Kris into Danny’s box…whee does that leave Danny?

Even though the AI camp has been known to plant a story or two, I have a hard time believing that their chosen outlet for such a story would be the Enquirer. I mean, at least plant it in US Magazine, still a journalistic trashbin, but with not nearly the reputation for lying as the Enquirer has.

Just by virtue of the fact that it’s the Enquirer reporting this, many people will simply not believe it. They have no credibility. I see no advantage to choosing this particular tabloid.

Of course, simply because it is in the Enquirer, my Nana will believe it. But, Nana’s 87, and she doesn’t watch American Idol. I suspect at some point today, she’ll call me to find out who these people are LOL.

So, if I had to speculate on who planted this crap, I’d go with Disgruntled Gokey Supporter.

but this story has zero bite to it. Unless there were some kind of on-air scuffle I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see people latching onto this story in the same way they did the Jeff A story last year.

But the ‘stage Dad’ story had no bite to it either. There never was any evidence. Even David said he had no idea there was even a controversy about it until after the show when interviewers were asking him questions that caused him confusion. I think the difference here is that we’ve all had an opportunity to witness ourselves the closeness between Adam and Kris and that wasn’t the case with Jeff and David because Jeff was always behind the scenes and had no way to defend himself.

I HATE that they make Adam arrogant which is exactly opposite from what everyone says about him.

I think this is why people won’t buy the story. I’m sure Adam is aware that he’s caused a stir. I don’t even doubt he knows he has a good chance to win the whole thing. The difference is that he knows how to show humility and graciousness. I have yet to see any sign of arrogance. Besides, I doubt he’d be the others’ ‘go to’ guy if they didn’t feel they could trust him or confide in him. The fact that he has that kind of respectful relationship with the others speaks volumes to me.

I kind of wonder if this isn’t just build-up to another possibly real or at least more probable and important scandal that is going to ‘accidently’ slip out later on, somehow involving Adam, Kris, or possibly Danny. I can’t imagine even TPTB think this story alone will do anything dynamic. I don’t think this is the end of the ‘dirt’ (if you can even call it that) for Idol this year. They it’s set up and presented seems to me like a precusor to something else. I wouldn’t be shocked if we get some kind of scandal in the next few weeks.

feud, not fued!
Hey with all those pictures of Kris having his arm around Adam, they would have an easier time starting a rumor that he has a secret crush on Adam, lol.

Of course, Kris tends to put his arm around everybody.

Even if it’s true, who cares? Not every human gets along with every other human. Just because they are on the same show doesn’t mean they have to be buddies.

^^^as mentioned earlier, I don’t imagine that there could be any kind of scandal errupting now….I’m sure the scandal mongers have been searching for anything to get their hands on all season. That is why this silly little National Enquirer blurb is news. Because there ain’t no “news” out there.

By the way (she says with a big smile on her face) congratulations MJ for finding a topic that has entertained us all. Interesting to note that the contestants have received nothing but support from us posters. You think we like these guys as persons. You bet!

I’d have to believe this rumor.

Adam Lambert seems like he’d be a tough person to room with. He’d certainly get on my nerves in 10 seconds.

They shouldn’t co-ed like that anyway.

Just a man leaving nail polish around should be enough for anyone to want to strangle him.

It could mean Kris is replacing Danny as a frontrunner.

I fully believe this.
And that it was put out by TPTB.
The coincidence of this appearing so close to the leakage of the popularity bars is very telling IMO.

They had to think up some sort of story that featured the both of them- Adam to attract readers in the first place, and Kris to plant the seed in our minds that he is supplanting Danny as the Good in the Good (conventional) vs Evil (unconventional) showdown that is/will be the finale.
To me it is understandable that they went with the roommates angle- it was the most obvious and rooming together–> tension—>feud.
Makes complete sense.

Anyone with half a brain knows to take these stories with a grain of salt, so the true purpose of the feature was to make the masses see Adam and Kris as the story. Not Adam alone, but the pair of them. Together. In the finale.

The storyline itself was just the means to an end and is inconsequential IMO and best ignored.

The general consensus is that Kris would beat Adam easily in the finale. Safe nice winner.

*snip*
I think TPTB wanted Adam to get this far. They know he can put on a show like Pinkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s right now. But, now, seeing that Kris is winning, they need to build him up.

Whoa! I must have missed something here ….. KRIS is winning in the vote totals? Was this leaked somewhere too?

Someone mentioned way upthread how difficult this sort of press must be on Kris. Kris? He’s the “good guy” in this fictitious little blurb. His wife should be glad NE didn’t spin the pics/confessionals the other way and go the “Kradam” route.

Whoa! I must have missed something here à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. KRIS is winning in the vote totals? Was this leaked somewhere too?

No, but the “leakage” of the iTunes popularity bars showed Kris outselling Danny by a sizeable margin.
Smoked him, actually.

You canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell me they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand the significance of putting someone who is supposedly religious and conservative like Danny against him.

The implication to me is that many of these contestants never had the opportunity (or probably desire) to really get to know an openly gay person. The implication to me is that they have found out that he’s as human and caring as the rest of us. Kris obviously cares greatly for Adam. All the touchy feely (and the amusement park story) haven’t been lost on me. To me, no matter where they place in the contest, this is a really good thing. I can’t help but think it will teach these kids more tolerance.

I’m not a very knollish person but Simon did say we will see more personality and drama this year (I’m still waiting, Simon) and, damnit, if the kids don’t provide it, tptb will do it themselves!

No, but the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“leakageà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of the iTunes popularity bars showed Kris outselling Danny by a sizeable margin.
Smoked him, actually.

Well, yeah, I know Kris is beating Danny. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s been the case for a while now, in votes as well as iTunes.

The comments that I quoted seem to imply Kris was beating Adam and would easily win the finale because of it. Threw me for a loop.

Word, gingerly, on all your thoughts about the true implications of the melting pot/pressure cooker these kids now live in.

As for the show, who knows what goes on day to day in the minds of TPTB, if anything, but it’s seemed pretty clear to me that for show drama and ratings purposes, they’ve been angling from the beginning for the ultimate finale culture clash. One candidate (that on the side of the unconventional) they safely assumed would be there (although admittedly they’ve done some subtle damage control, conditioning the public for tolerance purposes too.) For the other (the conservative with religious backing) they hedged their bets and stacked the deck (Gokey, Allen, Sarver, Giraud, and even Scott and Lil, to some degree.) From those, the final-standing competitor is rising organically (as much as possible in the world of reality TV) and TPTB seem to embrace whoever rises highest, imo.

Besides, I thought the producers were British? If thats the case, issues such as this arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t as big in Europe as they are here in the states.

Yes, which is why they take pleasure in exploiting what they probably view as additional evidence of US infancy.

I fully believe this.
And that it was put out by TPTB.
The coincidence of this appearing so close to the leakage of the popularity bars is very telling IMO.

Yeah, my thoughts have alway been that the leakage of the popularity bars was never really an accident but it was done on purpose. The only reason to do it would be to show Kris passing Danny as the frontleader and that Adam not only sells but sell really really well. I would be very happy with a Kris/Adam final and the signs seem to point to this more and more.

MJ, when you said that the tides are turning, did you mean that you thought Kris is becoming the front-runner???

i mean, i like Kris, but an AI winner? There are thousands of Kris Allen’s out there, and him winning would be pathetic for AI IMO. Can you picture him matching up to past winners with regards to voice/personality? i like him, but cant picture him winning. but maybe thats not what you meant…

WHOA, people are already CONVINCED this is planted by Idol, and are already running away with speculations based on that assumption – i.e., that Kris must be doing better than Danny, that Adam is being pimped for an Adam-Kris finale, etc.

Everybody, WHAT IF THIS IS NOT PLANTED BY IDOL AT ALL???
I mean, I really see little of this (crazy *gasp*) thought going on on these boards, although it does seem like the first explanation to consider.

Here is how these trashy mags make money (and publish trash): they take a nugget of truth, and then they make up a story based on the truth (so that it sounds real), usually putting a negative spin on it. What is the nugget of truth here? The Kris and Adam confessionals where they were talking about the roommate situation. In the confessionals they talk about:
- how despite of the fact that they are very different people, they get along very well (different people – let’s exacerbate it and make it into a culture war, NI editor says. Check.)
- Kris mentions with no malice that he is slightly tidier than Adam (well, Adam could be turned into a slop, NI says. Check).
- Adam mentions that Kris talks to his wife every day, how that’s cute (CUTE?? No, what if he is irritated by it? Yeah, that works better. Check.)

I mean, this *could* definitely be the explanation. And yet people choose to believe this is planted by Idol. These speculations that Idol planted this story are hurting Adam, almost more than if the story was true, because now people are assuming Idol knows something we don’t, he’s not the frontrunner, etc. This is ridiculous!

I’m more suprised that the Enquirer didnt fuel Kradam tales with Kris and Adam having a thing for each other. The story had me laughing though….thanks for the comical relief :laugh_tb:

WHOA, people are already CONVINCED this is planted by Idol, and are already running away with speculations based on that assumption – i.e., that Kris must be doing better than Danny, that Adam is being pimped for an Adam-Kris finale, etc.

Everybody, WHAT IF THIS IS NOT PLANTED BY IDOL AT ALL???

LOL, I know right?…….I enjoy reading all the spins, but dont believe for a second that the Idol producers planted this. More like a disgruntled fan of one of the idols, if anything, or someone who’s just bored. The Enquirer and the source must be laughing their heads off right now, like I am

Everybody, WHAT IF THIS IS NOT PLANTED BY IDOL AT ALL???

Totally agree with this, just way too many people building conspiracy theory out of nothing.

The success of this theory is because a lot of people want to see a Kris/Adam finale.
I like to see the interactions between the candidates, but I find the whole ships/bromances aspect really uninteresting and creepy.

My guess is that someone not associated with Idol made this up. It all sounds “logical” and could easily be fabricated.

BTW a lot of guys wear nail polish now. David Cook has worn it at times, just for one. It’s no big deal in the modern world. Or probably the ancient world either.

If there’s any truth to it, it’s good for Kris to expand his horizens and meet different people. But why do they crowd these people together?

Can someone please tell me where to find these confessionals? I’m stumped.

idolrofan

I agree with you on every single word…

On another blog (think it was AI blogs)…someone said that the Enquirer had the “gay pic” story to run on Adam, but that the internet and all the blogs beat them to it..so they are pissed and wanted to do something to hurt Adam’s reputation as the good guy, that all the other Idols go to for advice.

I think its less complicated than that…I think they see how well he is doing and want to cash in on his massive popularity. They can’t run anything bad on him personally, because people wont buy it…so they concoct a story that put him against someone with him in the bad light….

It’s all total BS if you ask me….but again the article have everyone talking about it…even though most of us believe its not true.

To me ….the best way Adam and Kris can deal with it if asked is to laugh it all off…and say “we know what the real truth is….and people around us know what the real truh is…so believe what you want…”…then call it a day…because the more you try to defend stories like that the more fodder these trash magazine will have to play around with.

On a side note…Damn Adam looks fine in the pic….lol..I had to add that..

Kris and Adam need to just let this roll off their backs and focus on getting ready to sing two songs on a theme night that should prove really interesting.

Although I like Kris- his “Falling Slowly” made me change my mind about him…he just doesn’t have much of an x factor going for him. Kris is a small town boy with little sophistication and Adam come from a world that is the complete antithesis.

This cultural difference, along with the fact that they are roommates, makes them the perfect targets for gossipy stories.

This strikes me as about as real as “fight” scene with the boxing gloves for David and David last year.

I mean, this *could* definitely be the explanation. And yet people choose to believe this is planted by Idol. These speculations that Idol planted this story are hurting Adam, almost more than if the story was true, because now people are assuming Idol knows something we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the frontrunner, etc. This is ridiculous!

It could be that simple, yes of course.
I just thought the timing was suspect.

But I don’t get where you thought it implied that Adam was not the frontrunner??

I think of course he is the front runner, but I also think what little excitement this season has generated is the race for second place. The Kris/Danny race.

I remember back many years ago when the Clay/John Paulus story hit NE. Several people on the boards discounted the story because it was the NE. However, although Clay has never spoken about the JP incident( as far as I know of) he did in fact confirm that he was gay many years down the road. Therefore, there may indeed be a little truth to Adam being a little messy. Perhaps that will be confirmed one way or another down the road.

On a side noteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Damn Adam looks fine in the picà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.lol..I had to add that..

I agree, Adam looks great! His skin looks terrific, and I would probably contribute some of that to his stress level going down. Whatever happens from now on, he knows he has done well on American Idol and that he has tons of fans who love him for who he is, just the way he is.

I think some people, including me, are commenting on this story because it’s kind of fun to run with all of the conspiracy theories. I always love a good suspense book and TPTB ar easy to cast as the villian. But all in all, I don’t think the general public cares about this story. I’m so glad the discussion about Adam’s personal life is losing its fizzle. It’s like there is a collective sigh by people followed by the phrase “and your point would be?” when stuff like this pops up.

I do think it truly is a singing and performing contest now. All the back stories and scandals have surfaced and now it’s time to get down to business with voting for the best contestant. And I do think Adam can win this.

I remember back in season four, one of the rags printed a story about Carrie and Bo. THey were both supposed to be leaving their GF/BF for each other. And we all know that didn’t. And their were rumors re Carris and Anthony. They both did break up with their BF/GF for each other. And we all know no, they are just friends.

Sometimes they do get a story right but most times, not.

Must be a bad news day to be so concerned about Adam’s nail polish, lol. As far as Adam and Kris not getting along, so what if they don’t? Whose business is that except theirs? Just because they are on A.I. doesn’t necessarily mean they have to get along with every contestant. Personally I think this story is just “rubbish” (to quote Simon). I saw on some low-life website where they had photoshopped Adam and Kris to look as tho they were more than friends, very close, with Adam leaning back against Kris in a way that could really provoke comments, more rubbish. Secondly, I thought we were supposed to be concerned with talent and singing, not nail polish and who gets along? This is so sad actually. (After I finish here, I have to go straighten my vanity, lol)

Besides the fact that I personally believe Adam is the most talented, brave, awesome artist to ever grace the A.I. stage, I think it will be a travesty if anyone else wins. Just go to the iTunes STUDIO versions and listen to his songs, esp. If I Can’t Have You and Tracks of My Tears, you will be amazed!

As far as Simon now picking Danny to be in the finale with Adam, what’s up with that? He has done nothing but criticize him during the semi-finals. He seems to be setting up the drama and is he now going to start pimping Danny? The way things are going I’m starting to lean toward all those conspiracy stories that I never wanted to believe. After all, this is a show for ratings and money. Regardless of who wins or is the runner-up, A.I. has the option to get them both under contract, so they don’t care if Adam or Danny wins. I still choose to believe that Adam has it all, is never boring and he is the ONLY one I remember when the show is over! With the exception of 1-2 performances, I find ALL the rest extremely forgettable. JMO

Um….aren’t they living in a MANSION? And haven’t a bunch of people moved out? I would imagine that there are at least 5 bedrooms in a MANSION and that Adam and Kris could now each have his own room.

The only question I have is this: If the producers just moved Kris into Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s boxà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦whee does that leave Danny?

He’s moved on as the fallen angel and is scheduled to perform a twisted version of “Sin Wagon” on Final 3 week.

I’m over the NE non-story, THIS is the sort of Adam news I like to hear:

http://blog.ymarketing.com/bid/14410/Can-iTunes-Buyers-Predict-the-Next-American-Idol-Winner-blog-ymarketing-com

I think The Enquirer was contacted by none other than…Danny. Come on, you know the Kradam co-fandom had to be concerning him. Look at what Cake did for Blake. And this, this is a perfect way to ensure the next largest fanbase afer Adam and his own doesn’t swing Adam’s way in the Adam vs. Danny finale. Can’t you just see him pretending to disguise his voice with some sort of cheesy accent…

Uh, yes, this is, uh, top secret behind the scenes information. Adam totally leaves his um, nailpolish and stuff around and poor Kris Allen is so fed up. Poor poor Kris, having to put up with Adam. Clearly, who would want to vote, er, I mean room with Adam. My name? My name is…Manny. Manny Fedoke. I work maintenence at the Idol mansion. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
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i doubt this is happening most people in this position (being on american idol) would be on their best behavior which includes cleaning up after themselves…Adam looks like he comes from a solid family that would have taught him basic manners….you can also see how he carries himself on the show and how nice and polite he is…that attitude he would carry everywhere in his life

I also doubt they still room together…this is a competition and as weeks go by rooms become available. Everyone should have their own room at this point

Background_noise, thank you very much for that link. That was a very very informative read.

laura11383 — I think you nailed it! It does look like the Season 5 storyline! But I think that Allison = Elliot, Adam = Taylor and Danny = Katharine”.
Talented dark horse with a great voice but some image issues (that the AI stylists seem to be causing!) = Alison
against a fan favorite online = Adam
and an early judge favorite = Danny

That mean’s that Kris is Chris Daughtery! The talented one that should make it to the end but has some issues with song choices and consistency.

So the finish order would be:

5 = Matt
4 = Kris (I hope not!)
3 = Allison
2 = Danny (I really hope not!!!!!!)
1 = Adam

This makes sense but I am really hoping for a Adam-Kris final!!

The National Enquirer has become very reliable especially in the last 7 years or so. If its in there you can bet there is more than a snippet of truth to it. Its not Time magazine mind you but its not irrelevant either, not anymore.

As to the article, I think its bullshit. Who exactly are these Idol “insiders”?

Am I an Idol insider? I mean my friends think I am. If they want to know anything about AI they come to me and I go to MJ’s lol. The point is that whenever people are not specifically named Im suspicious. There may be some truth to it, these kids are living under a microscope that few of us could endure without some friction.

One thing I do agree with, I believe Danny is on his way out and Kris is on his way up.

Adam, who imo is by far the most talented, will lose this in the end and to (I think) Kris. That may not be a bad thing at all.

I did not know that Kris was a church goer until very recently where I read many articles on the net from christian bloggers. I say this because thats a good thing. He didnt flaunt it, he didnt make it a front and center topic. Good for him but it tells me that there may very well be a lot of truth in the National Enquirer’s piece.

Homosexuality is a sin to a lot of christians and maybe the closeness in proximity makes it difficult for Kris to cope with. Or maybe not but its good “rag” fodder thats for sure.

>>And since Adam feels he has become the front-runner in the competition >>

LOL, that was funny. Talk about an “insider” trying to fan the flames. Thats good stuff right there.

I think The Enquirer was contacted by none other thanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Danny. Come on, you know the Kradam co-fandom had to be concerning him. Look at what Cake did for Blake. And this, this is a perfect way to ensure the next largest fanbase afer Adam and his own doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t swing Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s way in the Adam vs. Danny finale. Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you just see him pretending to disguise his voice with some sort of cheesy accentà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Uh, yes, this is, uh, top secret behind the scenes information. Adam totally leaves his um, nailpolish and stuff around and poor Kris Allen is so fed up. Poor poor Kris, having to put up with Adam. Clearly, who would want to vote, er, I mean room with Adam. My name? My name isà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Manny. Manny Fedoke. I work maintenence at the Idol mansion. Yeah, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the ticket. :smirk1_ee:

:lol_tb: :lol_tb: :lol_tb: :lol_tb:

Manny Fedoke! :laugh_tb:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m more suprised that the Enquirer didnt fuel Kradam tales with Kris and Adam having a thing for each other.

Exactly. I picture the guys in the Enquirer office flipping a coin to decide which direction to go in. I mean, they’ve got the “proof” either way. Tons of pictures of Adam and Kris sitting side by side, hugging, laughing together (private jokes??).

Anything Adam = sales, so this is not surprising. It would be more surprising if they didn’t run Adam stories.

The general consensus is that Kris would beat Adam easily in the finale. Safe nice winner.

The comments that I quoted seem to imply Kris was beating Adam and would easily win the finale because of it. Threw me for a loop.

Yeah, whoa, what? In what universe does “massively leading in iTunes sales” and “massively leading in buzz” make Adam NOT the solid frontrunner? IMO some Adam fans are getting a little paranoid here. As a Kris fan I am celebrating that he could POSSIBLY be moving up to #2. Don’t worry, most of us still defer to Adam as the Presumptive Heir

LOL sunchick, I love it. What’s more, you’re probably right!

background_noise
Apr 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m over the NE non-story, THIS is the sort of Adam news I like to hear:

http://blog.ymarketing.com/bid/14410/Can-iTunes-Buyers-Predict-the-Next-American-Idol-Winner-blog-ymarketing-com

Wow…I knew Adam was popular when my father (who lives in Jamaica) called me to ask about Adam Lambert on American Idol)..lol

But to see real stats on how popular he is is way cool….

http://firefox.org/news/articles/2737/1/Opinion—Why-Adam-Lambert-Should-Win-American-Idol-8/Page1.html

Nice little blog about Adam…mentions Allison, Kris, and Danny too.

I don’t even like Adam and I don’t believe a word of this story.

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3182890&view=findpost&p=11665072

Ugh….that post reeks of unnecessary desperation.

(Psst. Isn’t it F-e-u-d?)

Or… are you
saying they’re F-U-ed?

This story is the most amusement I’ve had in days. Sunchick, your entire post is love (warped, but love none the less). When I need a laugh (and Lord knows I do) I come here. Thanks!

Did someone leak this to give Kris bad publicity and move Danny back into the final two? I sure hope this doesn’t affect either of these guys unfavorably.

Buderschnookie Apr 25th, 2009 at 9:11 am

I fully believe this.
And that it was put out by TPTB.
The coincidence of this appearing so close to the leakage of the popularity bars is very telling IMO.

I hope so but I also worry this is the beginning of throw Kris under the bus.

If anyone is being thrown under the bus via this “article,” I would say it’s Adam. He’s the one who comes off in a negative light, not Kris. Luckily, I don’t think most people believe a word of it. It still sucks for both of them, though.

Well Ellie, I’d say that’s a huge matter of opinion. I happen to be very tolerant being that I have a lesbian sister. I find it to be Kris coming off as the villian in the article. I would guess it is a matter of viewpoint. Ultimately I think the article is hilarious and actually that the tab comes off in the worst light. In the end, I have to find the entire thing silly.

the funny thing is that I don’t think this will change a single opinion to anyone. The Glamberts will continue to love. The Kris Masses will continue to rally. And everyone else’s fans will stay in their camp.
It’s not even scandalicious like the whole two-minute Danny hits on some chick story.

I’m not even in a camp, but I’m hoping for a Adam/Kris finale beause I find them to be the most worthy. I’m so far not voting to make it happen so I don’t feel I can bitch if it doesn’t.

They shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t co-ed like that anyway.

Just a man leaving nail polish around should be enough for anyone to want to strangle him.

Wow. The whole gay panic thing is so 1980s. Deal with it.
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Producers plant or no, it’s clearly BS.

The best suggestion I have read about handling this suggested that Ryan ask Kris about it on the air and have Kris say “I have no idea what they’re talking about” as he gestures with his black nail-polished hands.

The best suggestion I have read about handling this suggested that Ryan ask Kris about it on the air and have Kris say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I have no idea what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re talking aboutà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  as he gestures with his black nail-polished hands.

Oh, that would be hilarious. For me, the tabloids clearly get so much wrong that I just can’t give this story any weight. Every week, there’s a new person on the cover of one of these rags with the big exclamation headline that she’s pregant. Then, it turns out that she’s not. So, either half of the females in Hollywood are regular customers of a super secret abortion doctor – or these guys just plain make shit up. (I go with the latter).

Journalism that pays for illicit gossip, and bases an entire story on the word of one unnamed source, really isn’t journalism at all.

I believe it’s a story that attempts to make BOTH Kris & Adam look bad, hence the reason I’m sticking with my theory that it was planted by a disgruntled member of the Gokey camp. I don’t think it’s advantageous for AI to attempt to make 2 of their contestants look like douchebags.

Kris say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I have no idea what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re talking aboutà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  as he gestures with his black nail-polished hands.

Pretty please, with sugar on top even :thumbup_tb:

sunchick is definitely correct about Manny I think! After all, didn’t he buy a guitar because he was so bored? All this time I thought they were on a very strenuous schedule and he is bored. Maybe it’s only the others who have to work hard at this American Idol thing?

gingerly, I see your point about some people thinking Kris could come off in a negative way in the article. I was thinking more along the lines of Adam being called arrogant as the negative part of the story. But I understand what you’re saying about Kris possibly being seen as intolerant. The whole story is ridiculous, IMO, and just one more pathetic way to try and make Adam’s sexual orientation an issue.

The fact that there are tab stories about Adam and Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’maybe planted by the producersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ are just one indicator that the tide in this contest is turning.

mj, The tide is turning? Turning for whom? I just came from a forum that thought the voting is rigged. Now this. I am AI conspiracy burnt out.

“Kris say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I have no idea what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re talking aboutà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  as he gestures with his black nail-polished hands.” PERFECT!!! And gingerly, great insight on the show and the kids!

This “controversy” is deja vu all over again! The 2007 British talent show XFactor with lead judge Simon Cowell had in Finals the massively talented Rhydian Roberts and a good singer Leon Jackson. Simon had called Rhyd “World Class” and “in a league of your own” and “Brilliant” and “A Star”.
Sounds familiar. Controversy was “created”. Rhydian lost to Leon. Fans say Rhyd lost when they got only busy signals while phoning to vote. Leon was dropped by Sony a year later due to lack of sales.

Creating controversy where none exists goes on all the time. I find it sad that the powers, like Wall Street execs, will do anything for a buck and don’t care a clock tic about these kids who make AI what it is. Adam is right – Mad World.

Adam for the win, Kris second, then Allison, Danny and Matt.

What I hate is that I have a feeling the producers are doing everything to make Adam comes accross as arrogant when it looks like he’s one of the least arrogant contestants American Idol has ever had…

The week Adam sang ”Born to be wild”, the producers did something I hated…
On the result show, they showed Paula’s positive comment and then Adam’s look that was the face he made to Simon’s comment (rocky horror musical)…not Paula’s…It made Adam look bad for the people who didn’t watch the show the day before…

As someone else said on a forum : Iit made it look like that was a cocky smirk, and it wasn’t at all. In context it was completely a “hey that’s cool, I love Rocky Horror!” smirk. They took Adam’s reaction out of context and make him look all smug when he’s not at all

I hope they aren’t trying to sabotage Adam… :thumbdown_tb: He seems to be such a nice guy. He doesn’t deserve to be treated like that… :sad_tb:

Okay first of all I don’t think Adam’s Gay. Second of all Who Cares!!? Third of all the Idols are so tight this year that they wouldn’t let a stupid thing like this break up their closeness. And fourth The National Enquirer is fake and stupid.

I remember in Season 4 seeing an article in National Enquirer as I was standing in the checkout line about Carrie was involved in a three way love triangle with Bo and Anthony. We all know how true that one was.

This is so ridiculous. Can we please hear something more relevant about these contestants? I’d rather hear about their favorite colors than this fake out drama. What a stupid article.

I’d love to see Kris and Adam in the finale! They are both great. I love Adam(he’s my favorite) but I think Kris is really great and cute.

I wish the media would just stop trying to make hate. It’s so ugly!!!

I feel that all of the leaks from Idol are pretty much planned public relations, publicity stunts and that includes all the Joanna Pacitti crap, the Top 4 “leak” that turned Alexis’ elimination into a shocker and this Nat’l Eq pile of dung too. The producers are throwing anything up against the wall to see what sticks.

The week Adam sang à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Born to be wildà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , the producers did something I hatedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦
On the result show, they showed Paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s positive comment and then Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s look that was the face he made to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comment (rocky horror musical)à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦not Paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦It made Adam look bad for the people who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watch the show the day beforeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦”
this is totally true, I caught that too, it was out of context, his smirk was…I agree with Mary. LMAO…

The week Adam sang à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Born to be wildà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , the producers did something I hatedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦
On the result show, they showed Paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s positive comment and then Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s look that was the face he made to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comment (rocky horror musical)à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦not Paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦It made Adam look bad for the people who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watch the show the day beforeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

this is totally true, I caught that too, it was out of context, his smirk wasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I agree with Mary. LMAOà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦