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	<title>Comments on: Adam Lambert and Clay Aiken Mention in Eminem&#8217;s Elevator</title>
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		<title>By: sallysimmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>sallysimmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unlike Lady GaGa or Adam, Slim Shady is actually degrading people. His music is used as an anthem by hordes of ignorant masses who see it as all too real.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Generalize much?

If you had heard all of Eminem&#039;s music instead of the few so-called &#039;shocking&#039; tracks, you might feel differently. Some of his songs have positive messages, some are very moving, some are crass. Then again, I&#039;m probably just an ignorant mass ;-)

As for him having it easier than Adam - anyone saying that just doesn&#039;t know Em&#039;s history with the FCC and the media. We&#039;re all entitled to our own opinion but not our own facts.</description>
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<p>Generalize much?</p>
<p>If you had heard all of Eminem&#8217;s music instead of the few so-called &#8216;shocking&#8217; tracks, you might feel differently. Some of his songs have positive messages, some are very moving, some are crass. Then again, I&#8217;m probably just an ignorant mass <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for him having it easier than Adam &#8211; anyone saying that just doesn&#8217;t know Em&#8217;s history with the FCC and the media. We&#8217;re all entitled to our own opinion but not our own facts.</p>
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		<title>By: druzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>druzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eminem was fresh and amusing 10 years ago but I see he&#039;s still doing the same schtick as at least one other mentioned.  He&#039;s tired and washed up.  Can&#039;t he do any better than this?  It&#039;s pitiful.  Even more so that until SuBo it was the top selling album of the year. Wow, what does *that* say about the taste level 600,000 music buyers have?

I didn&#039;t hear Aiken mentioned, just L*mb*rt and Lance Bass.

Unlike a few, I don&#039;t object to the term faggot (at least one gay friend greets us with &quot;fags&quot; in fact).  I find many gays don&#039;t feel passionately about it and only the chest thumpers are on par with blacks going on about the N-word when used by non-blacks. I prefer &quot;queer&quot; or even &quot;fag&quot; to &quot;gay&quot; because, to many and several friends, &quot;gay&quot; denotes a particular mind-set and culture to in which we don&#039;t feel welcome nor a part.

What does irritate me is a double-standard. I was the lone non-black helping a grandmother move her and her 5 grandkids. Her sons were all &quot;nigga,&quot; &quot;nigga,&quot; &quot;nigga&quot; with each other, even talking about who the &quot;overseer&quot; would be--a clear reference to slavery. 

If it&#039;d been up to me they&#039;d have been smacked upside the head. They didn&#039;t do it when she was in earshot so they knew it wasn&#039;t appropriate. Part of me has always wondered if they over used it because I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eminem was fresh and amusing 10 years ago but I see he&#8217;s still doing the same schtick as at least one other mentioned.  He&#8217;s tired and washed up.  Can&#8217;t he do any better than this?  It&#8217;s pitiful.  Even more so that until SuBo it was the top selling album of the year. Wow, what does *that* say about the taste level 600,000 music buyers have?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t hear Aiken mentioned, just L*mb*rt and Lance Bass.</p>
<p>Unlike a few, I don&#8217;t object to the term faggot (at least one gay friend greets us with &#8220;fags&#8221; in fact).  I find many gays don&#8217;t feel passionately about it and only the chest thumpers are on par with blacks going on about the N-word when used by non-blacks. I prefer &#8220;queer&#8221; or even &#8220;fag&#8221; to &#8220;gay&#8221; because, to many and several friends, &#8220;gay&#8221; denotes a particular mind-set and culture to in which we don&#8217;t feel welcome nor a part.</p>
<p>What does irritate me is a double-standard. I was the lone non-black helping a grandmother move her and her 5 grandkids. Her sons were all &#8220;nigga,&#8221; &#8220;nigga,&#8221; &#8220;nigga&#8221; with each other, even talking about who the &#8220;overseer&#8221; would be&#8211;a clear reference to slavery. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;d been up to me they&#8217;d have been smacked upside the head. They didn&#8217;t do it when she was in earshot so they knew it wasn&#8217;t appropriate. Part of me has always wondered if they over used it because I was there.</p>
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		<title>By: sleepinggiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleepinggiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people actually with a straight face claiming he said &quot;fake&quot;. And that there are possibly two versions? 

LMFAO.  He&#039;s saying fake-its  as in fag-its. 

[As in If You Seek Amy]

People will go to any length to be disingenuous or suspend disbelief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people actually with a straight face claiming he said &#8220;fake&#8221;. And that there are possibly two versions? </p>
<p>LMFAO.  He&#8217;s saying fake-its  as in fag-its. </p>
<p>[As in If You Seek Amy]</p>
<p>People will go to any length to be disingenuous or suspend disbelief.</p>
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		<title>By: hollygo9</title>
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		<dc:creator>hollygo9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trash is as trash does.</description>
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		<title>By: wand3rful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wand3rful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, i take 50, Nas(!!), JayZ, DMX and Tupac (!!!!!!) anyday over Em.</description>
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		<title>By: wand3rful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wand3rful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive often thought most of Em&#039;s critical acclaim comes from the fact that he&#039;s white. shocking, right? white man performs usually what is a black man&#039;s music, and gets treated like the second coming of Christ in the entertainment world. shades of Elvis.  most of the credit should be given to Dre for being an great producer. and although I do like some of Em&#039;s songs, i think he tries so hard to be &quot;cool and different&quot; that he comes across as a parody of himself. too bad, bc the real Em seems to be a decent guy.....he tried to have Taylor Swift come out to re-do her speech during his acceptance but show producers thought Beyonce&#039;s invite was more appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive often thought most of Em&#8217;s critical acclaim comes from the fact that he&#8217;s white. shocking, right? white man performs usually what is a black man&#8217;s music, and gets treated like the second coming of Christ in the entertainment world. shades of Elvis.  most of the credit should be given to Dre for being an great producer. and although I do like some of Em&#8217;s songs, i think he tries so hard to be &#8220;cool and different&#8221; that he comes across as a parody of himself. too bad, bc the real Em seems to be a decent guy&#8230;..he tried to have Taylor Swift come out to re-do her speech during his acceptance but show producers thought Beyonce&#8217;s invite was more appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: sleepinggiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleepinggiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sometimes words and art in general can act as this disturbing ripping away of society&#039;s polite illusions to confront an unpleasant truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

^^ I don&#039;t know who wrote that. Does the sentiment apply to Adam Lambert&#039;s AMA performance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sometimes words and art in general can act as this disturbing ripping away of society&#8217;s polite illusions to confront an unpleasant truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>^^ I don&#8217;t know who wrote that. Does the sentiment apply to Adam Lambert&#8217;s AMA performance?</p>
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		<title>By: OhMyRawrrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhMyRawrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read this whole thread - and I didn&#039;t listen to the whole Eminem rap.  As soon as I heard him &quot;rapping&quot; about shaking a baby - I shut that shit off, artistic license my ass! What an asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read this whole thread &#8211; and I didn&#8217;t listen to the whole Eminem rap.  As soon as I heard him &#8220;rapping&#8221; about shaking a baby &#8211; I shut that shit off, artistic license my ass! What an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I freakin love Eminem -- although he hasn&#039;t been the same since The Marshall Mathers LP...my all-time favorite album EVER. 

This song....it&#039;s alright. Reminds me of the other debut, pop culture tracks from his previous albums (like &quot;The Real Slim Shady,&quot; Without Me,&quot; &quot;Just Lose It,&quot; and &quot;We Made You&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I freakin love Eminem &#8212; although he hasn&#8217;t been the same since The Marshall Mathers LP&#8230;my all-time favorite album EVER. </p>
<p>This song&#8230;.it&#8217;s alright. Reminds me of the other debut, pop culture tracks from his previous albums (like &#8220;The Real Slim Shady,&#8221; Without Me,&#8221; &#8220;Just Lose It,&#8221; and &#8220;We Made You&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: sleepinggiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleepinggiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthiness
12/04/2009 at 2:42 am

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is there a radio and album version of this song? Because that&#039;s what I&#039;m hearing and hence this &#039;fake,&#039;  versus the other f*****s word. But I don&#039;t care enough to stay up to listen.

Oh and Adam, after not being upset about it (I KNOW! he totally should have been calling for a banning!) said in Twitter he thought it was &#039;fake its,&#039;  and so his bad.

Adam, your hypocrisy sickens me. Sure the might be two different versions, but even if not, there could be one that could possibly be totally offensive and your taking to the warpath, getting personally offended and droning on and on about banning of Eminem is just pathetic. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where and when did Adam Lambert drone on and on about banning of Eminem? Are you referring to his comment that he supports his right to his schtick on um....Ellen I think it was? Link?

And can you spell out the hypocrisy specifically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthiness<br />
12/04/2009 at 2:42 am</p>
<blockquote><p>Is there a radio and album version of this song? Because that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m hearing and hence this &#8216;fake,&#8217;  versus the other f*****s word. But I don&#8217;t care enough to stay up to listen.</p>
<p>Oh and Adam, after not being upset about it (I KNOW! he totally should have been calling for a banning!) said in Twitter he thought it was &#8216;fake its,&#8217;  and so his bad.</p>
<p>Adam, your hypocrisy sickens me. Sure the might be two different versions, but even if not, there could be one that could possibly be totally offensive and your taking to the warpath, getting personally offended and droning on and on about banning of Eminem is just pathetic. </p></blockquote>
<p>Where and when did Adam Lambert drone on and on about banning of Eminem? Are you referring to his comment that he supports his right to his schtick on um&#8230;.Ellen I think it was? Link?</p>
<p>And can you spell out the hypocrisy specifically?</p>
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		<title>By: Zsus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zsus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Em is behind the times. He needs to start mentioning SuBo. She DID beat his ass for debut albums. I expect him to rap about cats in his next song.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL!! I love this!

Oh heck.  Eminem is just being Slim Shady.  He IS offensive. That&#039;s his gig.  When my son went through his rap stage and was idolizing Eminem, I didn&#039;t forbid him to buy his CDs because that&#039;s just not the way my husband and I roll as parents.  We&#039;re more into the &quot;don&#039;t make it forbidden fruit, but discuss with him why we find something offensive or why others might find something offensive.&quot; We ended up having a lot of interesting discussions about Eminem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Em is behind the times. He needs to start mentioning SuBo. She DID beat his ass for debut albums. I expect him to rap about cats in his next song.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL!! I love this!</p>
<p>Oh heck.  Eminem is just being Slim Shady.  He IS offensive. That&#8217;s his gig.  When my son went through his rap stage and was idolizing Eminem, I didn&#8217;t forbid him to buy his CDs because that&#8217;s just not the way my husband and I roll as parents.  We&#8217;re more into the &#8220;don&#8217;t make it forbidden fruit, but discuss with him why we find something offensive or why others might find something offensive.&#8221; We ended up having a lot of interesting discussions about Eminem.</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sometimes words and art in general can act as this disturbing ripping away of society&#039;s polite illusions to confront an unpleasant truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep. At times, certainly. 

But when his &quot;unpleasant truth&quot; is that &quot;these three guys are gay and I think they&#039;re all big failures and phonies, haha!&quot; (and one of the guys is Lance Bass who has been, like, a pretty hot music seller and only two of the three are potentially &quot;fake&quot; stars because they come from reality tv), then I think that what he&#039;s actually doing is more like pointing to a &quot;pleasant untruth&quot; that plays well with the particular bigotry of at least some members of his hoped-for audience. ... 

Rather than uncovering &quot;society&#039;s polite illusions&quot; and fighting the entrenched power thereby -- which is what edgy art is expected to do -- he&#039;s actually just bolstering and pandering to the entrenched homophobic illusion that actually is dominant in our society. 

Now, I&#039;m sure that there are people who will say that what he&#039;s bashing is &quot;political correctness&quot; or something. 

But all he&#039;s really doing is putting three guys down because, hey, they&#039;re gay, and thus despisable, while he and his fans are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sometimes words and art in general can act as this disturbing ripping away of society&#8217;s polite illusions to confront an unpleasant truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep. At times, certainly. </p>
<p>But when his &#8220;unpleasant truth&#8221; is that &#8220;these three guys are gay and I think they&#8217;re all big failures and phonies, haha!&#8221; (and one of the guys is Lance Bass who has been, like, a pretty hot music seller and only two of the three are potentially &#8220;fake&#8221; stars because they come from reality tv), then I think that what he&#8217;s actually doing is more like pointing to a &#8220;pleasant untruth&#8221; that plays well with the particular bigotry of at least some members of his hoped-for audience. &#8230; </p>
<p>Rather than uncovering &#8220;society&#8217;s polite illusions&#8221; and fighting the entrenched power thereby &#8212; which is what edgy art is expected to do &#8212; he&#8217;s actually just bolstering and pandering to the entrenched homophobic illusion that actually is dominant in our society. </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure that there are people who will say that what he&#8217;s bashing is &#8220;political correctness&#8221; or something. </p>
<p>But all he&#8217;s really doing is putting three guys down because, hey, they&#8217;re gay, and thus despisable, while he and his fans are not.</p>
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		<title>By: jinxx315</title>
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		<dc:creator>jinxx315</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eminem is a piece of crap who does nothing but bash people in his music. He thinks he&#039;s this big bad ass which I think is hilarious. Can&#039;t stand him or his stupid music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eminem is a piece of crap who does nothing but bash people in his music. He thinks he&#8217;s this big bad ass which I think is hilarious. Can&#8217;t stand him or his stupid music.</p>
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		<title>By: IdolThoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>IdolThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times do we have to hear about his mother, his daughter, his ex and Dre before people STOP calling Eminem a &quot;genius.&quot;  It is the same shit over and over again for the last 10 years.  
Hate mongering is not okay in any medium.  Just like we shouldn&#039;t tolerate the use of words like &quot;retard&quot; and the N word...we just shouldn&#039;t support the usage of Fa**ot.  Oh...I&#039;m sorry...I mean Fake-it.  I think he should be ABLE to do it...but I don&#039;t think that producers, radio companies, studios, fans or anyone else should offer it any support.  If he wants to stand on a milk crate outside of Walmart and go nuts thats fine.  I&#039;m a Target shopper anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times do we have to hear about his mother, his daughter, his ex and Dre before people STOP calling Eminem a &#8220;genius.&#8221;  It is the same shit over and over again for the last 10 years.<br />
Hate mongering is not okay in any medium.  Just like we shouldn&#8217;t tolerate the use of words like &#8220;retard&#8221; and the N word&#8230;we just shouldn&#8217;t support the usage of Fa**ot.  Oh&#8230;I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;I mean Fake-it.  I think he should be ABLE to do it&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think that producers, radio companies, studios, fans or anyone else should offer it any support.  If he wants to stand on a milk crate outside of Walmart and go nuts thats fine.  I&#8217;m a Target shopper anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eminem  probably just thinks anyone who use American Idol to make it is a fake it and is homophobic and a woman hater. It&#039;s too early too tell if Clay or Adam although highly unlikely might outsell him yet. Adam needs to focus on the music instead of all the bashings he&#039;s been getting of late. It has to be pretty hard to deal with the overnight fame that the idols have to deal with.</description>
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