Adam Lambert – AMA Update: Viewer Complaints, Sound Issues, And Whataya Want From Me on Letterman

hate how this is overshadowing the album…

Not sure if this has been posted where he says he’s not even sure what happened in the moment.

http://abc.go.com/watch/clip/2009-american-music-awards/SH011880100000/145425/241973

Can’t wait to hear WWFM live!

Rolling Stone wrote a positive review of Adam’s performance HERE. But RS is a card-carrying member of the over-hype machine, so no surprise there.

Why is it over-hype? Perhaps they just like him and think he’s mega-talented? And enjoyed the performance? Sorta like me.

I’m glad to see there’s a bunch of positive reviews coming in. Overall it seems the media wasn’t as freaked out as some others.

It wasn’t a perfect performance I agree. I think he wanted to do too much too soon. That’s Adam. I happen to love the showman in him. For me it’s as important as his fabulous voice.

I think I’ll go watch the video again. That kiss with Tommy was super hot!

booo that the Letterman performance won’t air till Wednesday

I just got a message in my Facebook newsfeed that Amazon has FYE for download at only $3.99!!!

oh i see this was posted haha, i just posted the AP article in the headlines… whoops.

Here’s the thing.

The #1 Rule when you screw up is ACT LIKE NOTHING IS WRONG. Adam is playing that perfectly. I think he knew the performance didn’t go well last night but he is playing the “I had a great time and look forward to my next performance” card.

#2 Rule – Never, ever apologize for anything. It shows weakness and it is worse to appear weak than it is to appear wrong.

If Adam blows it out of the park tonight with “WWFM” (a MUCH better song than FYW), the AMA’s will be utterly forgotten. People have short memories.

Despite the AMA’s FYE is #7 and #9 (not sure how that works) on iTunes right now. Regardless of the AMA’s the album is amazing and should be very successful.

P.S., Sometimes it is better to blow it then make a comeback than to never have blown it. Think “make-up sex”.

Looks like Adam has another 3k followers since last night.

Not sure if this has been posted where he says he’s not even sure what happened in the moment.

If Adam is saying he doesn’t remember what he did, it doesn’t change a thing, he’s responsible for his actions regardless.

However, I think he’s just using different verbiage to explain the “adrenaline rush” that takes over when performing on stage–that it can get a little crazy when you’re up there.

hate how this is overshadowing the album’ ¦

Think of all the people that knew nothing much about him before last night and went and checked out his album today. Between the controversial performance and all the glowing reviews of his album, not to mention his name being tossed around with Lady Gaga, Madonna and the likes…I’m sure people are curious.

He will most likely have a lovely performance on Letterman. And I was listening to the lyrics from that song, how fitting they are after last night. The thing that bothered me most about last night was the stumble and how I believe it threw him off for the rest of the song….I thought up to that point he sounded great.

If Letterman=Tracks of My Tears (the song after the controversial RoF) he will hopefully be back on track.

hate how this is overshadowing the album’ ¦

That’s a choice Adam and his team made. Personally, I think the talent speaks for itself. At this point, the vocals should have been front and center. He can still do that. He’s got plenty of appearances coming up.

I’m sure all of the pitchiness, dawg, was all due to sound issues? I mean some of it could of been you right? I mean it could be both… but we’ll blame it on the sound issues..

RS is grateful for the sales of the mag featuring AL.

Overall it seems the media wasn’t as freaked out as some others.

It’s not a catastrophe like Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction, for sure, but I woke up to quite a few negative reactions this morning. Not a lot of glowing reviews, and quite a bit of meh and eye rolling.

“hate how this is overshadowing the album’ ¦”

Me too. I was expecting more fan reviews of FYE. There were plenty of A.I. summer tour concerts reporters here…

mj,see for me as a fan that would be the ideal situation.He kicks-a$$ with his vocals,and this is forgotten.except so many “fans” don’t want anything to do with him now.contreversy is okay.this?not so much…

Finland: #2 pop chart, #2 general chart
Denmark: #11 pop chart, #18 general chart
Sweden: #12 pop chart, #22 general chart
Norway: # 54 pop chart, #132 general chart

Other European countries:

UK: #19 pop chart, #44 general chart
France: #37 pop chart, #86 general chart

Rest of world:

New Zealand: #2 pop chart, #3 general chart
Canada:#5 pop chart, #10 general chart

GO ADAM!!! I think this is pretty awsome, considering it hasn’t even been a day yet

Just hit #1 in Finland. Way to go Adam!

I don’t care much about Adam’s performance one way or another. Nothing changed for me, nor was I offended–though in honesty I wasn’t buying his album anyway. At best I’d buy a track or two off iTunes.

But I’m not sure I’m really buying his bit about the kiss and simulated bj not being planned. BS. He might not have “planned” them in the sense that he was keeping them a secret from the network and hence the censors, but I don’t buy the whole bit about it happening in the heat of the moment.

lmao one of the comment’s on new York mag’s vulture blog is that is was too “generic” .lol.

The problem when you push the envelope is that eventually, you push it too far. Last night that happened. Hopefully Adam will learn from this that it’s a thin line between sexy and yucky.

Last night was like Miley Cyrus’s pole dance. It was just like, “No, Miley no!” – lol.

Well, again, the controversy wouldn’t matter so much if the overall performance had been executed well. If he had completely nailed the vocals, then the gist would be, “Man, not sure about all the other stuff, but the guy can sure sing.”

I’m still confused as to why or how he even ended up as the closing performance of the show? And then when given that plum spot, he and his team opted to debut to MOST of the music buying public this way?

i was expecting more negativity then what was received..i know as an avid adam fan i was extremely upset because i didnt want it to hurt his popularity. i was turned off and it takes a lot for me to feel that way. i agree with mj that his vocals are outstanding and he has more than enough appearances coming up that he can redeem himself…that is of course if he wants to. His album got four stars in the New York Daily News, with a beautiful picture of him. I think he needs to take a breath, and get back to basics…he is gorgeous with a gorgeous voice. i hope the fiasco of last nite becomes a distant memory.

The 2009 AMAs had 14.2 million viewers and was the most watched since 2002.

The usual number of complaints for an OTT performance is between 15 and 20 thousand. So Adam got 90% less complaints.

Adam has received most of the press for this event and the majority is somewhat favorable to favorable. There has been very little negative press outside of the AI bubble.

I have yet to find any media about Carrie, Kelly, or Daughtry (but I’m not looking real hard…they don’t interest me). And even Taylor Swift’s awards are taking a back seat to Adam’s performance.

Always making excuses…

so Adam thinks it’s okay to grab someone and plant a kiss on him or force someone down to simulate a BJ just because he got “in the heat” of the moment and let his adrenaline take over. How is that even remotely appropriate? You want to talk double standard … imagine the uproar or outrage if someone like Eminem did that to one of his female dancers.

Tess: seems to me, the ratings dropped during the period Adam performed. The most hyped performance that they hyped all night … ratings dropped and people tuned out.
2009 American Music Awards (ABC)
8:00 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 12.00 million (#3); A18-49: 4.3/11 (#2)
8:30 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 13.65 million (#2); A18-49: 4.9/12 (#2)
9:00 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 15.45 million (#1); A18-49: 5.9/14 (#1)
9:30 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 15.67 million (#1); A18-49: 6.3/15 (#1)
10:00 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 15.18 million (#1); A18-49: 6.1/15 (#1)
10:30 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 13.03 million (#2); A18-49: 5.3/14 (#2)

I always liked Adam on the show–he seemed like a good guy, who worked hard, and knew what he wanted out of a career. His music wasn’t my cup of tea, but his singing abilities were undeniable.

The last week or so, though, his various ‘statements’ have just made me cock my head and go, ‘really, dude?’ I don’t even care about his actual performance last night–there’s plenty of gratuitously sexual crap on all the awards shows (the Shakira travesty last night pops to mind). What bothers me is the attitude that seems to permeate his post-show comments. He’s not the first overtly gay man to sing and perform the way he does–he’s just the first one who also appeared on AI. The suggestion that it’s because he’s male–a gay male, at that–seems disingenuous to me. Plenty of female performers have taken plenty of crap for ‘pushing the envelope.’ Does he really think there has been no outcry over Madonna performances, or Britney performances, or even freaking Miley Cyrus performances? FCC policy was practically rewritten after the Janet/Justin boob incident. People are always having a conniption about something–he’s not unique in that regard.

And then there’s the ‘pitchy’ comment, which he proceeds to blame on the sound mix, and slam AI in the process. It just seems like bad PR for someone just stepping out of the gate, who hasn’t proven actual saleability or longevity yet.

1,500 complaints with 14.2 million viewers [up over 40% vs. last year based on overnights only -- so total is actually higher] is surprisingly low considering the content of the performance. And the ratings increase is huge — and peaked for Adam’s performance.

Certainly not Adam’s best vocal performance but Adam is the #1 news story from the AMAs, won Best Dressed for the AMA Red Carpet [with Nicole Kidman], and FYE first day sales are strong.

So I guess it accomplished what it needed to — got Adam a ton of press on the first day of Album sales, and seems to have stopped any discussion of Adam not being “gay enough”.

I believe that Adam’s comment in the ABC interview, “I don’t really know what happened”, was referring to the two things that were not in the dress rehearsal — the fall-roll and kissing Tommy Joe [his bassist].

Finally, I think we can now piece together why RCA/Adam weren’t doing promos of FYE to radio [except for KIIS on 10/30/09] — FYE was picked to do this performance, WWFM will be promoted on Letterman, GMA and the upcoming radio tour.

Tommy Joe tweeted this pic from the Letterman studio. Looks like the boys took over Dave’s desk during rehearsal.

Adam, Tommy Joe and Monte at Letterman.

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sr4mjc
11/23/2009 at 4:23 pm
Looks like Adam has another 3k followers since last night.

By this link it says he has a daily twitter follower increase average of +854 people per day. Since yesterday he has gained +2513 and are predicting another +1700 by tomorrow….looks like the buzz is in the air!

http://twittercounter.com/adamlambert?manual_update=1

I guess the thing I find most frustrating is that FYE is about the WORST SONG on the entire album.

Can you just imagine a disco themed “If I Had You” or a blue, mood and starlit “Broken Open”? Both would have been epic. Just as in the Idol season, Adam continues to frustrate me with his song choices.

Listening to the album again. Seriously there are 6 or 7 HITS on this thing. Truly amazing for a freshman album.

P.S., the one good thing to come from this is that Adam has firmly established YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’LL DO NEXT! Maybe that was his goal.

I tweeted this last night, but I think it bears repeating. I was much more disturbed by Rihanna’s bondage moment than Adam having a bit of fun on stage. I mean, consider the context. Just saying. No one seems to care about that. Adam’s vocals weren’t great, but I don’t give a crap. I know he can sing.

And then there’s the ‘pitchy’ comment, which he proceeds to blame on the sound mix

He is not saying that sound mix made him sound pitchy…he is agreeing that he was pitchy and that the sound mix (which makes it hard to hear the music and backup singers) was a contributing factor…which is not uncommon and happens to all singers from time to time, and other AI contestants have had similar complaints from time to time…

And the ratings increase is huge ‘” and peaked for Adam’s performance.

No it didn’t. The show was losing viewers by the time he came on.

10:00 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 15.18 million (#1); A18-49: 6.1/15 (#1)
10:30 p.m. ‘“ Viewers: 13.03 million (#2); A18-49: 5.3/14 (#2)

So far Adam hasn’t taken me anywhere that I haven’t wanted to go with him. He’s taken me places I never would have thought I would have gone a year ago, but here I am….loving every minute of it. My husband and I watched the AMA performance unfold last night and we did exactly what Adam hoped for…we laughed and had fun with it. Sure…our mouths dropped open for a few seconds, but we quickly saw it for what it was and just plain enjoyed it.

I understand completely what Adam is saying. If he offended some people, then he probably isn’t for you. I’m sure he doesn’t mean to offend, and neither do I. He really isn’t for everyone, and that’s perfectly fine and understandable. He’s really putting it all on the line right now…will it work? Who knows what the future will hold. What I do know is that he’s not compromising himself and his vision which I really appreciate.

So yes….I will slip into my stripper shoes and follow him into the Rabbit Hole, getting away from all we know. Quite willingly I might add.

He is not saying that sound mix made him sound pitchy’ ¦he is agreeing that he was pitchy and that the sound mix (which makes it hard to hear the music and backup singers) was a contributing factor’ ¦which is not uncommon and happens to all singers from time to time, and other AI contestants have had similar complaints from time to time’ ¦

I realize that making one’s point clear in 140 characters is tricky, so it’s certainly possible that he meant exactly what you’re saying. But just reading his actual post:

It WAS a bit pitchy. Don’t know what was goin on with the sound. Same thing always went down on idol

To me, that distinction isn’t clear. It sounds like he’s saying, “Yeah, I was pitchy, because the sound was off, just like on AI,” not “Yeah, I was pitchy, and the sound was off, just like on AI.” A subtle but critical difference, and only my opinion, of course.

And then there’s the ‘pitchy’ comment, which he proceeds to blame on the sound mix

Considering his lack of previous pitchiness, I’m inclined to believe him.

Zsus
11/23/2009 at 4:41 pm

Tommy Joe tweeted this pic from the Letterman studio. Looks like the boys took over Dave’s desk during rehearsal.

Adam, Tommy Joe and Monte at Letterman.

I can’t believe how much Tommy looks like a mini Adam in this pic!

Finally, I think we can now piece together why RCA/Adam weren’t doing promos of FYE to radio [except for KIIS on 10/30/09] ‘” FYE was picked to do this performance, WWFM will be promoted on Letterman, GMA and the upcoming radio tour.

I pieced that together a while ago (though, at the time, my theories were not warmly received). I don’t think they intended for FYE to flop this hard, though. The nice thing about the Master Plan is that things always go according to it no matter how unlikely it seemed the week before.

And then there’s the ‘pitchy’ comment, which he proceeds to blame on the sound mix

Somewhere, in a grimey bar, the sound techs are all grumbling over their beers and plotting their revenge. “So, we’re to blame for that mess? Wait until you see how incompetent we are next time!” LOL.

Watch out stage guys, you’ll be catching the blame for Adam’s failure to be able to walk up the stairs and not fall. At least JLo was trying something tricky.

Some people are so uptight. I wasn’t shocked by anything that happened except for him being off pitch way more than usual.

I can’t believe Tommy is straight, thats bull
look @ that pic

“”I tweeted this last night, but I think it bears repeating. I was much more disturbed by Rihanna’s bondange moment than Adam having a bit of fun on stage. I mean, consider the context. Just saying. No one seems to care about that. Adam’s vocals weren’t great, but I don’t give a crap. I know he can sing.”"

Ditto this Pj – one – perceived – bad performance does not a loser maketh eth We KNOW the boy can saaannnngg his face off – I sure would have loved to see janet and jlo hopping around and grinding and grabbing their crotch’s like they were without lip synching last night too!

“”Considering his lack of previous pitchiness, I’m inclined to believe
him.”"

This ^^^ during all of AI and all of his concert shows he rarely sounded off and now, this one time and everyone is just jumping on that? I got the shock performance but everyone should know by now the boy can sing – Weird – but expected from the people just hoping and praying for Adam to do badly

lol at my dad’s reaction last night.he was pissed blah blah blah at the AMA. but after tht he saw the album artwork.I think he had a pretty good idea Adam is gay.heh.

also a little off topic but I wish fye had a digital photo booklet so you can print…

I can’t believe how much Tommy looks like a mini Adam in this pic!

I know! They look like brothers. That doesn’t look like the keyboard guy from last night, though. Weird.

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/23/a-kiss-is-just-a-kiss-not-for-adam-lambert/?eref=ew

according to this article, the Out editor, Hicklin, applauded Adam’s performance….

luvadamlambert
11/23/2009 at 4:58 pm

also a little off topic but I wish fye had a digital photo booklet so you can print’ ¦

The LP version on iTunes includes all the photos in the booklet. It plays them like a screensaver over the music, and, if you look in your iTunes folder on your hard drive, the jpegs are all there. You can open and print them with your photo software.

I found that out because the LP interface didn’t show up on my iTunes this morning, so I had to go digging for it and found the folder with all the goodies.

So he won’t be asked to do the Superbowl halftime show anytime soon. He’s kind of fascinating and that is what gets the media attention. He had the big stage and there was no way he was going to play it safe (intentionally or not).

Would it have mattered if he killed the vocals? That was the big disappointment to me, but hey, other singers (except my fav Alicia) also sounded less than great last night.

The songs will stand on their own. Whataya want from me is a good song to balance FYE, and I think he sounds great on the album.

The antics would’ve been okay if he’d pulled it off. But he didn’t. It looked contrived and he come off looking like an amateur.

Hope his next performances go better.

“At least JLo was trying something tricky.”

LOL. Yes, lip synching IS tricky…at least for some people.

other singers (except my fav Alicia)

a little OT but just curious — did you think she was lip synching on ESOM? I have heard her sing it a bunch of times, but NEVER as good and as completely identical to the recording as last night….it got me wondering

Somewhere, in a grimey bar, the sound techs are all grumbling over their beers and plotting their revenge. ‘So, we’re to blame for that mess? Wait until you see how incompetent we are next time!’  LOL.

Watch out stage guys, you’ll be catching the blame for Adam’s failure to be able to walk up the stairs and not fall. At least JLo was trying something tricky.

hahaha i can see it now….

thanks vorona:)

I’ll do it when I get a color printer in my room…

I don’t think he’ll lose a single fan by staying true to himself

guess what hicklin? unfortunately,you’re wrong AGAIN…

His album, deluxe and regular is currently in the top 10 on itunes so sales were not hurt, not sure if he will go any higher with the heavy hitters in front of him. And he’s still sitting at #5 on Amazon.

Heh….did anyone hear that emenen(sp) song and the guy he sang with. The whole thing was bleeped on my TV….

Why aren’t lyrics controversial?

This is just so funny. AMA has their awards. Over a three hour period they have 17 performances by some of the biggest successful stars in music and 1 debut performance—Adam Lambert.

Now for the hilarious part…the only person anyone is talking about is Adam Lambert. OMG that is so funny.

Heh’ ¦.did anyone hear that emenen(sp) song and the guy he sang with. The whole thing was bleeped on my TV’ ¦.

Why aren’t lyrics controversial?

Huge Eminem fan here. Disappointed it was bleeped. I heard the f word when I was 7 at school and I’m freaking old. Maybe its time we quit pretending and deal with reality.

ETA: Of course, Eminem could have done a cleaner version. They usually have explicit versions and “clean” ones.

Does anyone know if FYE was written with the intent to tie it to sexual bondage? When I first heard the song and read the lyrics, it seemed like it was obviously an open letter to all of his Idol fans and the journey that lies ahead.

I wonder if this was (a) me being naive, (b) an intentional double meaning song from the start, (c)or afterwards, someone said “you know we could spice this up if we twist it this way”.

I haven’t heard Adam address this in interviews, but I haven’t listened to all 1,000+ interviews either. Anyone?

Why is the album now only $3.99??? I not only overpaid once but twice! Okay, I know I got extras, but still…

And I’m glad that I am not the only one who was sure FYE was going for the AMS and WWFM for airplay. It’s much more radio-friendly and Letterman/GMAs/Oprah, etal friendly. I am getting bashed about this, but I think in the long run, Kirsten, you were 100 percent correct. Adam himself has said that FYE is a club song, and it will sound great when it’s remixed. WWFM is a great song for radio play, where his voice is showcased. Pink is huge; this single should do really well, I think.

MJ, totally agree, and I am a huge Adam fan. That performance was in my opinion pretty bad and the vocals were for me the primary problem, but I do think this performance wasn’t polished enough.

tls62

So far Adam hasn’t taken me anywhere that I haven’t wanted to go with him. He’s taken me places I never would have thought I would have gone a year ago, but here I am’ ¦.loving every minute of it.

Completely agree!

I love that Adam is a roller coaster ride and even though I scream and my stomach does flips flops (sometimes) I am loving the ride, the music and the entertainment.
Bring on the next click click click to the top and wait for the next speedy decent with a rush that is pretty awesome.

http://top40.about.com/b/2009/11/23/adam-lamberts-ama-performance-part-of-a-long-standing-vital-pop-rock-tradition.htm

This was an interesting post by a guy who often comments on AI. I really gotta stop posting — clearly I’m bored at work today

mmb
11/23/2009 at 5:00 pm
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/23/a-kiss-is-just-a-kiss-not-for-adam-lambert/?eref=ew

according to this article, the Out editor, Hicklin, applauded Adam’s performance’ ¦.

Thank you, mmb. I was waiting for Hilklin to chime in. Why am I not surprised?

It’s all the Master Plan……. Listen to the words of For Your Entertainment and then then the words for Dave’s show… What do you want from me. The only “mistake” in the plan was that the vocals weren’t perfect last night….everything else was in his and RCA’s plan(maybe not quite to the extent that happened, but the gist of it was)…. The above is just my opinion, but I do believe this was planned for the most part:)

This performance wouldn’t of been so bad if it was on the MTV music awards.

Why is the album now only $3.99??? I not only overpaid once but twice! Okay, I know I got extras, but still’ ¦

Where?

Move from earlier thread. Sorry for the lengthy comment.

I hope at the end of the day, the music is the only thing that matters.

I have no problem with last night performance. Was it his best? No. He was trying to accomplish to much in one performance. The hype on his shoulder also cracked his nerve a bit. But I think it was good for him in a long run because now the hype will scale back and let Adam focus on the music and on promoting it.

As for public reaction and purchase decision on his album, I think it will be those people’s loss to judge an album or an artist basing on one performance. I didn’t like Gaga’s AI performance, love her bleeding dress one, meh on her last night performance. But all these performances, like it or not, bring her to my awareness, I find her music and MV present different facets of her musicianship and start checking out her songs. I like Adam’s talent and his type of music approach, and I hope as long as he has other performance opportunities, he will win over people who like his music.

As for the attitude toward his fans, I don’t really care what he thinks of his fans. As long as he can produce good music, I’m a fan of his music. I like his philosophy of staying true to ourselves and living the moment. That’s what I get from him and that’s enough for me to stay as a fan of his personality. I don’t need to agree everything he says to be a fan of his.

As for sales, the more I listen to FYE the album, the less I care about sales. This is a solid and damn good album that I’ve ever heard. If the number is good, then I’m lucky because that means I’ll have another album from Adam in one or two years, in the same or better quality I hope. I can’t wait for that even now. If the number is bad and RCA drops him, then I probably need to wait longer.

If Adam has to go indie, so be it. I watch the behind scene video and find out Adam had a lots of input in this album although he just wrote 4 of them. He hand picked all the songs and judged from the final product, his music taste appeals to me.

I hope this hoopla fades away soon and we can go back to discussing the music.

“Hope his next performances go better.”

I can say with certainty that they will.

Some may say that his performance last evening is evidence to the contrary–my local dj for one–but, Adam is not stupid. Impetuous, impulsive, slightly naive sometimes, and incredibly saavy at others, but not completely dumb.

Watch for stellar vocals on Letterman, GMA.

Hey…just don’t give up, he’s workin’ it out!

@squirrely:
amazon…

This was an interesting post by a guy who often comments on AI. I really gotta stop posting ‘” clearly I’m bored at work today

It’s true. Music can be very provocative and I enjoy that aspect of it. It’s about time someone shook things up. I respect people who push the envelope. If the vocal had been cleaner it would have been damn perfect.

squirrely, just got an email from the ADAM LAMBERT BLOG:

Monday, November 23, 2009

Grab “For Your Entertainment” for just $3.99
If you haven’t picked up a copy of Adam Lambert’s debut album For Your Entertainment, then head on over to Amazon and grab a copy for only $3.99!! That’s a serious deal for one of the most anticipated albums of the year. Purchase it today!

WHY SO SOON?

Why is the album now only $3.99???

Amazon does this with many artists…it is not exclusive to Adam or a reflection of his performance…

I bought Weezer’s new album from Amazon for $3.99.

I see it for 9.99 you save 3.99

WHY SO SOON?

From what I gathered, this is a normal practice for Amazon to compete for digit music download market.

Amazon and Walmart are all about the price wars these days with music and books.

I bought Weezer’s new album from Amazon for $3.99.

Me, too, actually……………

Grab ‘For Your Entertainment’  for just $3.99
If you haven’t picked up a copy of Adam Lambert’s debut album For Your Entertainment, then head on over to Amazon and grab a copy for only $3.99!! That’s a serious deal for one of the most anticipated albums of the year. Purchase it today!

WHY SO SOON?

they are doing this for a whole bunch of new albums, including rhianna…they want to get more of the digital download market….it is also much cheaper for amazon to sell a digital download — no packaging costs etc.

Not shocking at all if you’ve seen his album cover, bits of his video or even listened to the words of FYE. He still strikes me as being retro, not ground breaking or even very interesting.
Now we know exactly what Adam Lambert thinks is sexy and it is unappealing. I have to admit I’m not all that interested in exploring his music anymore.

http://top40.about.com/b/2009/11/23/adam-lamberts-ama-performance-part-of-a-long-standing-vital-pop-rock-tradition.htm

This was an interesting post by a guy who often comments on AI. I really gotta stop posting ‘” clearly I’m bored at work today

Love this article…this guy so gets it!

THIS:

“Last night Adam Lambert achieved the top goal of most highly successful entertainers. He captured our attention and forced us to talk about him. At the moment his music itself is not that important. His audacity at pushing our boundaries is. Thank you Adam, and welcome to the pop big leagues.”

Oh the digital download is 3.99

I have to admit I feel way better now that I see he’s still on track and that crazy performance did not hurt him much. This boy is batshitcrazy and he’s making me the same way. But I did love that kiss, the face in the crotch…not so much.

Fire sale?

Love Michelle Collins. Just saying the girl gets it. And check this out – really cool take on the hullabaloo…

http://onthemeaningofadamlambert.wordpress.com/adams-got-the-devil/

you can also buy it for $0.99.someone inthe other thread said there’s like $3 of free mp3 so if you can use that.

I think the reason I hate this contreversy so much is because he is losing “fans”.the album cover,Michelin man,whatever even smelly gate he didn’t lose fans. I don’t care about #s it just feels weird that the same people that loved him yesterday don’t want anything tondo without him today.and today’s not just any day today’s ADAM DAY.and it’s getting lost because of a stupid 5 min performance:(

I really believe, as I said in the last thread the WWFM was always the single, but not a jaw dropping performance for the AMAs, FYE had that potential and needed to be released as single(and not promoted, remember)in order to qualify as debut performance for the AMAs

WWFM will be a smash, I predict– radio friendly, radio luvs it

How can the “hoopla go away” when Adam creates the “hoopla” on purpose. For sure it is fame over music.

Now we know exactly what Adam Lambert thinks is sexy and it is really unappealing. I have to admit I’m not really all that interested in exploring his music anymore.

weese, in FYE album there are other songs not meant to be sexy: some of them are about love and seeking love and some are about how we look ourselves. Different songs have different vibe. I think it’s streaming online for free, you can play it at background. It will take you about 40 minus to listen to the album, and I think it will be a 40-minute will spent.

luv,

don’t think losing fans, have you seen the jump in twitters followers? Now, for his upcoming promo appearances, people will TUNE it

luv I think it will even out with gains and loss. Don’t fret Adam is very resilient.

Any reports from people at the Letterman taping today?

His album, deluxe and regular is currently in the top 10 on itunes so sales were not hurt.

Unless you know exactly how his album would have done without the performance or with a better one, you can’t make this type of statement.
Kris had the same type of rise in his rankings when his album was released and he didn’t have the AMA’s performance the night before.

The more telling factor is that the single FYE has had zero bump from last night. I remember people talking about how for instance David Cook sold a load of Permanent after his performance on AI, I doubt this one had the same effect.

IA that in another month, the effect of this appearance could be forgotten if he performs at the level he is capable of in the next few weeks.

Yet when we arrived in that house of carnal knowledge, we were shocked! Shocked I tell you ‘“ some of us were awed too. What were you expecting to find down there? High School Musical? Whom were you expecting to see? Tinkerbell? Just how many times did you rewind and watch again? Did you rewind any other performances? Did he really do that? Have to check that again’ ¦..

Yep this from this article:
http://onthemeaningofadamlambert.wordpress.com/adams-got-the-devil/

Well, at least the AMA performance will definitely draw more attention (or at the very least curiosity) to his upcoming Letterman and GMA performances and the music video.

It’s not a catastrophe like Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction, for sure, but I woke up to quite a few negative reactions this morning. Not a lot of glowing reviews, and quite a bit of meh and eye rolling.

I know a couple of Adam’s fans who are not buying the CD now. That really surprised me, but there it is.

There are some fantastic songs on his album – it’s a shame if people refuse to listen to them based on one outrageous performance.

After Elton weighs in

http://www.afterelton.com/blog/edkennedy/adam-ama-controversy

weese were you ever interested in his music?

Questions have also been asked whether the performance was appropriate in case children were watching. I would expect that concern is part of why Adam Lambert’s performance was saved for the end of the show at 11 p.m. ET instead of the spot occupied by Janet Jackson’s crotch grabbing at 8 p.m. It seems that it is a regular occurrence on network television to include explicit sexual material, bondage and fetish story lines as well as extreme violence on weekly dramatic series earlier in the evening than Adam Lambert’s performance. This was not presented in family hour.

exactly.I was fighting sleep…

This is really odd to me:

Monday, November 23, 2009

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Gaby_leonc
Just saw @adamlambert rehearse whatya want from me… He sounded amazing! Beautiful song!

Squirrely
11/23/2009 at 5:30 pm

There are some fantastic songs on his album ‘“ it’s a shame if people refuse to listen to them based on one outrageous performance.

Could NOT agree more.

cmom
11/23/2009 at 5:27 pm

How can the ‘hoopla go away’  when Adam creates the ‘hoopla’  on purpose. For sure it is fame over music.

He didn’t intend to offend people. Even if that were his purpose, he couldn’t single handed to accomplish this hoopla, we also need public reactions which is not something someone can control.

The more telling factor is that the single FYE has had zero bump from last night. I remember people talking about how for instance David Cook sold a load of Permanent after his performance on AI, I doubt this one had the same effect.

I guess Im not very intelligent but explain to me. Why would I buy the single when it is on the cd and I just bought the cd?

Adam is on the front page of Yahoo. It talks about the censorship. Nice pic of him.

suebrody….This is strange about the ticket giveaway because the performance is free anyway on a first come first serve basis. You are told to arrive by 6am on Wednesday. I don’t thinkk having a “ticket” matters. Maybe I’m wrong.

I guess Im not very intelligent but explain to me. Why would I buy the single when it is on the cd and I just bought the cd?

Not fans. Fans will buy the album. I didn’t, I bought select songs and FYE wasn’t one of them. But the general buying public who aren’t Adam fans. When most people perform on shows, awards, Idol, etc, there is usually a bump in sales.

I guess people didn’t feel Adam was there for their entertainment too much last night.

I guess Im not very intelligent but explain to me. Why would I buy the single when it is on the cd and I just bought the cd?

The performance was supposed to raise awareness of people outside the idol bubble, not from people who follow his every steps and who have supposedly ordered their copies of FYE.
That’s the public that would have supposedly watched the performance, liked what they saw/heard and go to itunes to purchase the song.
It happened for a number of songs last night and none was as heavily highlighted as FYE who got the pimp spot last night.

There was a whole discussion about how this kind of live performances translate into bumps in itunes rankings, but maybee you didn’t read it.

This is just so funny. AMA has their awards. Over a three hour period they have 17 performances by some of the biggest successful stars in music and 1 debut performance’”Adam Lambert.

Now for the hilarious part’ ¦the only person anyone is talking about is Adam Lambert. OMG that is so funny.

Not funny, just pathetic. Sorry, he attempted to be edgy and sexy, but it came off as desperate. That is what most people are talking about ….how bad and unoriginal it was.

I know, luval. I don’t understand. It is just a way to bump up sales? I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be enough people there, tho I could be wrong about that. Hrm.

Just saw @adamlambert rehearse whatya want from me… He sounded amazing! Beautiful song!
12 minutes ago from Echofon

http://twitter.com/Gaby_leonc
Can’t wait to see him on letterman!

Hope his next performances go better.

Not sure how it could get any worse.

He also confirmed that the same-sex lip lock and simulated BJ were done in the heat of the moment. ‘Adrenaline is crazy,’  says Adam, ‘and sometimes things just happen.’ 

What a load of crap. If these things weren’t planned you leave yourself open for harrassment accusations. Spin it some more Adam.

But this wasn’t a strong performance, and he’s pretty lucky this morning that he’s getting to spend the day talking about artistic freedom and not pitch problems.

Perfect quote from NPR.

The more telling factor is that the single FYE has had zero bump from last night. I remember people talking about how for instance David Cook sold a load of Permanent after his performance on AI, I doubt this one had the same effect.

Ladyguard: I guess Im not very intelligent but explain to me. Why would I buy the single when it is on the cd and I just bought the cd?

I agree with you Ladyguard and there was a bump to FYE as well – It’s charting twice at #60 and #109 overall #31 and #50 on the pop with a whole mess of other singles

He also confirmed that the same-sex lip lock and simulated BJ were done in the heat of the moment. ‘Adrenaline is crazy,’  says Adam, ‘and sometimes things just happen.’ 

Okay, this really worries me.
I just got home from work, but spent a good part of the day reading every internet article and viewing every photo. Yes, I couldn’t concentrate on much else after last night’s debacle.

This comment worries me because it makes Adam seem as though he is unable to control what is happening on stage. I feel this may make others very unsure about booking him in the future. My heart is so very heavy right now. On the positive side, Adam has two more performance venues this week to showcase his true talent!

He also confirmed that the same-sex lip lock and simulated BJ were done in the heat of the moment. ‘Adrenaline is crazy,’  says Adam, ‘and sometimes things just happen.’ 

I can’t believe people are not more upset about this!! He is basically admitting he assaulted both the dancer and his keyboard player. I don’t care if today they say they were fine with it. Adam employed the dancer and band member, and so he has authority over them. He abused his authority by assaulting him.

The more I think about it and the more I watch it (and, yes, that blog writer is correct, Adam’s is the ONLY performance I’ve rewatched) the more I think, what IS the big deal really?

He kissed someone, groped some others (very hotly, IMO) and SIMULATED oral sex. Kissing, hot groping, and oral sex are all positive, vastly superior activities, in my mind, to, say, the parade of grisly murders SIMULATED nightly on prime time crime shows, each trying to out-gore, out-shock, and out-TRULY disgust the other.

I just think it’s too bad some people are writing him off that easily, but of course, that’s their call. I don’t think it will affect him too much because clearly he’d rather follow his own muse than try to please everybody.

shit yahoo.I wanted ppl to forgive and forget,not have it on the friggin front page…

Not funny, just pathetic.

… the discussion out in the real world today has been fairly positive. Most of the media, even if they didn’t like the performance, have given him kudos for being daring and taking risks. There’s this great big huge world outside MJ’s blog and the AI-o-sphere….The buzz has been more along the lines of “Wow! I can’t believe he did that! I liked it, though.” or “Yeah, I watched it. Whatever.” It’s pretty bizarre to see the total disconnect from people in RL to the people on the blogs.

edit: don’t make assumptions or question the motives of fellow posters

RS review of FYE 3 out of 5

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/30994722/review/31053811/for_your_entertainment?source=album_reviews_rssfeed

I’m not going to count on it, but has Letterman interviewed any idol? I know he didn’t with Carrie, but she’s not much of a talker. How about Kris, Cook? Others?

No lip locking on WWFM

Seriously, only a 3 out of 5 from RS? ROLLING STONE, they who love Adam? Wow. That’s disappointing. I love this album. And I cannot wait to hear WWFM, b/c it’s one of my favorites. I hope it doesn’t go all rocky, tho with the band I don’t know…

He didn’t intend to offend people. Even if that were his purpose, he couldn’t single handed to accomplish this hoopla, we also need public reactions which is not something someone can control.

I don’t quite buy that. He told access hollywood last night that shocking people is fun. He deliberately pushes buttons. He knows what he’s doing.

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last.

luvadamlambert– not interested to the extent that many people here are but I was open to whatever he might put out. I don’t think this will hurt him—losses and gains–but I do think he may have given too much away in that performance for those of us on the fence.

The album has slipped slightly on the iTunes charts the last couple of hours. It had been at #5 and #7 on the overall chart — it is now at #7 and #9. Will be interesting to see what happens after his Letterman and GMA performances.

can’t believe people are not more upset about this!! He is basically admitting he assaulted both the dancer and his keyboard player. I don’t care if today they say they were fine with it. Adam employed the dancer and band member, and so he has authority over them. He abused his authority by assaulting him.

Oh come on now! even if this wasn’t planned in advance I have no doubt whatsoever that BEFORE HIRING any of these people, some of whome he has known for a long time, and BEFORE THEY ACCEPTED employment, they discussed how Adam is in the moment during performances and likes to push buttons and might kiss them etc….there is absolutely no way this came completely out of the blue and that the band members neither knew it was a possibility or were not ok with it ….this is neither sexual assault nor sexual harrassment and such allegations should not be thrown around lightly

The album has slipped slightly on the iTunes charts the last couple of hours. It had been at #5 and #7 on the overall chart ‘” it is now at #7 and #9. Will be interesting to see what happens after his Letterman and GMA performances.

no it was always at 7 and 9 overall it was 5 and 7 on the pop chart then moved to 4 and 6 which is where it is now.

It was hilarious, campy, OTT, totally ridiculous and more fun to watch than anything I have seen on TV in quite some time.

There are lots of things to take seriously in this world Adam’s performance at the AMAs is not one of them. To quote Pierce Brosnan in Thomas Crown Affair – “It’s all just a game…”

I ma happy that he tweeted about everything and I admire that he admitted that it was pitchy, however I dont think he was blaming his being off-key on the audio, I took it more as him saying they were equally off… or at least that was what my impression was.
Also, I agree that on Idol they fucked with the audio a bunch of times, except it seemed they favored Adam but some other performers got bad treatment (LIL especially sounded like she was shouting most of the time because the music was so loud..talk about sabotage)…and on the finale both Kris and Adam sounded terrible and the song sounded terrible…there wasnt a good balance b/t the singing and the music and I think that is what happened on AMA’s. Except he killed it on the last few notes when he sang Acapella so that’s you r proof right there it want just his singing that was off.
The sound mixing was terrible and it made the song sound bad… I genuinely dont think that was Adam’s fault especially since imho the song is fun and I like it. Albeit his vocals didnt help the situation at times (he was flat), but I think he was nervous and rattled from the slip.
I just think, overall the performance didnt come off the right way through tv, especially because they did censor it and I dont believe that they should have. At one point they censored the audio…WTF?
I wasnt offended by what he did because I know he is gay and the dancing complemented the lyrics of the song, which does have a sexual energy to it. Actually the choreography did make me laugh a little…I just think there was too much going on and he lost his composure for a bit but was able to recover in the end..sort of LOL.
It really depends on where your priorities are and as a fan, I just appreciate musical values over visual ones and I dont necessarily think that his performance had “artistic integrity” but he certainly has his right to express himself and dance how he wants…idk what was up with the middle finger though, I didnt even catch that LOL
all in all though, last night’s performance doesnt take away from the fact that he is a great singer, performer and entertainer and so ultimately I admire him and I think he is an amazing artist…
another artist that I use as a point of comparison or analogy if you will is Christina Aguilera.
She sings very well, but every so often she sort of, delineates from her foundation (which is singing great music) and will lip-synch and try to pull a Britney, even though she doesnt have to because of her talent.
Like when she did the kiss w/Britney and Madonna, nobody really took noticed because ppl dont care about that type of stuff because she is above it in so many ways, therefore she can get away with it without it destroying her career. Same with Adam.
She did a similar thing back in 03 with her stripped album and the whole “dirty” fiasco (the song was a hit in the UK but not here) was heavily criticized because she deliberately ‘dirtied’ up her image and like Adam I agree it was a bit unnecessary but that is her artistic choice and I have to respect it…it doesnt mean I dont appreciate her any less as an artist because the girl can sing her fucking ass off.
So can Adam.
Also, I think its normal to not love every single thing he does but it doesnt have to stop you from being a fan.
It certainly wont stop me from being one because the actual music on the album is good and there is no denying he is an exceptional singer…of all genres.
Plus, the shock factor thing really does work, especially for exposure purposes. Whether ppl liked it or not it got everyone’s attention.
His upcoming performances will be totally different and a lot of yall will be back on the roller coaster why? because he has the genuine talent and because he is a multi-dimensional artist.

There is an Adam at the AMA’s story over at Queerty; their brief review was negative, but some of the comments are positive for Adam.

http://www.queerty.com/so-lady-gaga-was-pretty-great-at-the-amas-and-adam-lambert-was-pretty-terrible-20091123/

I don’t quite buy that. He told access hollywood last night that shocking people is fun. He deliberately pushes buttons. He knows what he’s doing.

And I will always shake my head and wonder why this is fun. You have a superlative voice and you think it’s FUN to shock people? Adam, dude, I love your music, but I just don’t get it…

Then again, he loves GaGa and I would never see one of her concerts, so there ya go. Give me U2 and Muse.

NVM about Christina Aguilera. I have never seen her in concert, I just think she is a great singer. OTOH, Britney–just no.

Love him or hate him, one thing Adam Lambert never was on American Idol was off-pitch. His singing style may not have been everyone’s thing, but he tended to be technically on target. Not so last night at the American Music Awards, which is why it’s a fortunate thing for Lambert that all the talk today is about the kissing and simulated you-know-what that took place on stage. If there weren’t that to talk about, what you’d be reading about is that this was a pretty inauspicious beginning, musically speaking, for a guy who’s been so highly praised.

^^This. The performance just did not show off his vocal abilities in their best light, which is unfortunate given the huge opportunity given to him to blow people away with his talent. Fortunately, the ‘outrageousness’ factor overshadows all sorts of vocal deficiencies (see Spears, Britney and Ciccone, Madonna, etc.) so I’m thinking Adam’s oot off easy. He won’t be getting any sort of noticeable bump in sales for that performance (a little but not a lot) IMO and it might have lost him some AI fans, but in the long run, he may have done just enough to earn some space in people’s memories that they’ll pay attention to him the next time he is on their TV or radio.
ETA: Quote is from NPR article that mj linked to.

He didn’t intend to offend people.

BS. Adam is now all about the hype. Where’s the music?

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last

Oh thank you MJ…This is so what I am counting on! I love the controversy…keeps um talkin!

BS. Adam is now all about the hype. Where’s the music?

on itunes ready for purchase

I’m going to agree with After Elton. I think the kiss might have been spontaneous, not sure on the rest. I’m I going on the record saying the kiss was pretty damn hot. The cameras were in the right place at the right time for the bj, however they could have thought he was going to do something else with the dancer who knows.

I’m getting bored with this already, it happened. Time will tell what it does to his career. I’m looking forward to the Letterman performance!

I’m still bummed the vocal sucked, that’s all the hoopla for me.

The album has slipped slightly on the iTunes charts the last couple of hours. It had been at #5 and #7 on the overall chart ‘” it is now at #7 and #9. Will be interesting to see what happens after his Letterman and GMA performances.

Huh? When was it #5 and #7? I’ve been watching pretty closely and it’s been #7 and #9 forever. Never saw it go above #7. If it did reach #5 and #7, that’s great. But I don’t think it happened.

(Updated)
Finland: #2 pop chart, #2 general chart (briefly at #1)
Denmark: #10 pop chart, #17 general chart
Sweden: #8 pop chart, #13 general chart
Norway: # 24 pop chart, #50 general chart

Other European countries:

UK: #20 pop chart, #40 general chart
France: #35 pop chart, #93 general chart
Portugal: #4 pop chart, #10 general chart

Rest of world:

New Zealand: #2 pop chart, #3 general chart
Canada:#5 pop chart, #10 general chart

In Canada, these are the # for the deluxe album. The regular album is right behind at #6 pop and #11 in general chart

Go Adam. This is good news.

He’s right…. we have Ga-Ga doing kooky stuff…Madonna…trying to sing “Evita”…I mean…he should be able to express himself and make money ..which he no doubt will.

BS. Adam is now all about the hype. Where’s the music?

It can be purchased at itunes, amazon, best buy, walmart and many other local merchants and it is FANTASTIC!

gangreen29
11/23/2009 at 5:51 pm
He also confirmed that the same-sex lip lock and simulated BJ were done in the heat of the moment. ‘Adrenaline is crazy,’  says Adam, ‘and sometimes things just happen.’ 

I can’t believe people are not more upset about this!! He is basically admitting he assaulted both the dancer and his keyboard player. I don’t care if today they say they were fine with it. Adam employed the dancer and band member, and so he has authority over them. He abused his authority by assaulting him.

I read the Rolling Stone articles and Adam confirmed that only the kiss was unplanned. He never said that the simulated BJ was unplanned. Personally I think it all looked planned, but if he says the kiss wasn’t, fine, I’ll give him that.

BS. Adam is now all about the hype. Where’s the music?

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It’s pretty bizarre to see the total disconnect from people in RL to the people on the blogs.

the people in the media who are defending or giving him props, are the same folks who have been Pro Adam since Day 1 (RS fits into this category along with Michelle Collins). Not surprised. The sad part is that nobody is talking (as much) about the music. He didnt sound great and he seemed disconnected from the song throughout his entire performance. if he hadnt’ kissed and groped 1/2 of his band, many would be saying ‘meh’, ‘next’….lucky for him, he successfuly distracted viewers from the fact that the performance sucked.

I thought the choreography was terrible. It was frenetic and disjointed. This is a dance tune and there was nothing about the performance that led to fist pumping, head bopping, or dancing in your seat. It really did not sell the song. If it weren’t for the “shocking” aspect (and I didn’t find it all that shocking) – no one would be talking about it. If I found anything shocking it is that the performance fell so flat.

on itunes ready for purchase

lol

squirrely, I think I love you.

BS. Adam is now all about the hype. Where’s the music?

on itunes ready for purchase

And doing pretty damn good, too! Two songs in the top 10! Go Adam!

Thanks LeHommeAdam! That is good news!

and here is the main diffrence between adam and madonna/britney…he can actually sing! no amount of makeup, tanning spary, glitter or leather can mask that those gals cannot hold a note. but adam is so much better than that…hence the disappointment. it was truly a wtf moment

Studio57 I think you meant albums

I’m really starting to get pissed off. The Parents Television Council only names Adam? What about all the other intercourse, crotch grabbing….jees….he wasn’t the only one who performed.

They act like everyone else performed Christian music and Adam was a slut master. There were a few slut masters last night. Adam just did it best lol

srvmjc:

I’m getting bored with this already, it happened. Time will tell what it does to his career. I’m looking forward to the Letterman performance!

^^THIS!
And has no one heard “Down the Rabbit Hole”? This is now my personal favorite – it is AWESOME! At around the 2:40 mark, it sounds a lot like Ring of Fire. It also has shades of Pink Floyd. Exquisite.

the people in the media who are defending or giving him props, are the same folks who have been Pro Adam since Day 1

I’m not talking about the media. I’m talking about the real world. As in people. People who don’t think about American Idol every day of their lives, don’t hang out at blogs, and don’t long for the failure of the Idols, or any performers for that matter. People I actually know – friends, family, co-workers – the real water cooler talk.

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last.

LOL — Truer words were never spoken!

“The album has slipped slightly on the iTunes charts the last couple of hours. It had been at #5 and #7 on the overall chart ‘” it is now at #7 and #9. Will be interesting to see what happens after his Letterman and GMA performances.

Huh? When was it #5 and #7? I’ve been watching pretty closely and it’s been #7 and #9 forever. Never saw it go above #7. If it did reach #5 and #7, that’s great. But I don’t think it happened.”

It was only #5 and #7 (using RSS feed) if you excluded explicit albums. Include them and it’s been #7 and #9 all day.

on itunes ready for purchase

Like I said, where’s the music?

On the lighter side of things. . . this JUST happened in my living room:

I plugged my ipod in to the stereo and Music Again started playing. After the first 30 seconds, my 6 year old says ‘Mom, why does this music sound like it’s from outer space?’  I asked if he liked it and he gave an enthusiastic ‘yeah’  ‘“ I told him it IS from outer space ‘“ Planet Fierce. After some thought, he said ‘that’s not a planet’ .

Not yet, but it might be. His music certainly stands out.

You know…I love Lady GaGa and think she is talented. I have to admit though watching her break whisky bottles over the piano keys while she was playing was disturbing to me.

And I will always shake my head and wonder why this is fun. You have a superlative voice and you think it’s FUN to shock people? Adam, dude, I love your music, but I just don’t get it’ ¦

Yes, suebrody! It isn’t easy (or logical) being an Adam fan………

And has no one heard ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’ ? This is now my personal favorite ‘“ it is AWESOME! At around the 2:40 mark, it sounds a lot like Ring of Fire.

ITA.

hearing Eminem talk about rape and murder were a little more disturbing than Adam’s performance IMO

.this is neither sexual assault nor sexual harassment and such allegations should not be thrown around lightly

He grabbed someone by their neck and shoved them into his crotch. Try doing that sometime at work or anywhere and good luck convincing people that isn’t sexual harassment. Adam himself said that this wasn’t and he did it on the spur of the moment, that means the dancer didn’t consent.

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last.

And there it is. He thrives on controversy. Too bad.

and here is the main diffrence between adam and madonna/britney’ ¦he can actually sing! no amount of makeup, tanning spary, glitter or leather can mask that those gals cannot hold a note. but adam is so much better than that’ ¦hence the disappointment. it was truly a wtf moment

Bingo! Brit and Madonna have to resort to disgusting antics, Adam doesn’t have to. It’s a real shame he chose to resort to the antics and not that well. He has such an incredible gift and he’s choosing to waste it for the shock value. WTF indeed.

The vocals on Down the Rabbit Hole are very Rof. It’s very cool.

thanks weese

WTF RS?! I’m unsubscribing….lol

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last.

exactly.there was a -new gate every tour night. I just hope he doesn’t lose all his fans:( well,yknow what I mean

I just say adam’s tweet.I adore you too Adam..

FYE (right now) #6 and #8 itunes (overall)

On twitter. Will he promote WWFM-or both songs?

DONT FORGET! @adamlambert in studio with @elvisduran tomorrrow at 7:40AM EST. Info at elvisduran.com!

Here’s a perspective worth reading.

http://top40.about.com/b/2009/11/23/adam-lamberts-ama-performance-part-of-a-long-standing-vital-pop-rock-tradition.htm

Squirrely

Are you sure? I could swear I saw it at #5 & #7 a few hours ago…

EDIT: nvm

FYE (right now) #6 and #8 itunes (overall)

How bad is this? I would think he would have been at least top 5?

Are you sure? I could swear I saw it at #5 & #7 a few hours ago’ ¦

No. Never was.

FYE (right now) #6 and #8 itunes (overall)

YUP just jumped over twilight soundtrack

Queerty has it about right:

“We’ve seen this Adam Lambert look before. But somehow his first public performance was, uh, worse than anything we ever saw on Idol. And while we must admit we liked the “guys on leashes” thing, we can’t help but wonder, How did this go so badly? (And no, it wasn’t his decision to kiss a male keyboardist, nor “give head” to a male dancer.)”

So no, it wasn’t the ‘gay’ stuff that made it bad. It was just plain bad.

People I actually know ‘“ friends, family, co-workers ‘“ the real water cooler talk

the people i know thought it was stupid and over the top , in a bad way. “poser” was a commonly used word and some just rolled their eyes.

I just think Adam needs to take some of what is so cool to him, his friends who are in circus acts and gypsies and all the creative, talented people he is around and harness that and share it with people who have never been exposed to his world. And do it in a cool, positive light. He’s got it inside of him. I don’t want him being mainstream by any means. Edgy with a smile

Here’s a perspective worth reading.

http://top40.about.com/b/2009/11/23/adam-lamberts-ama-performance-part-of-a-long-standing-vital-pop-rock-tradition.htm

And the following is my favorite quote from that article.

At the moment his music itself is not that important. His audacity at pushing our boundaries is.

Of course music is not important. Why should it be? It’s not about the music at all. Who cares about that?

gangreen29
11/23/2009 at 6:13 pm
.this is neither sexual assault nor sexual harassment and such allegations should not be thrown around lightly

He grabbed someone by their neck and shoved them into his crotch. Try doing that sometime at work or anywhere and good luck convincing people that isn’t sexual harassment. Adam himself said that this wasn’t and he did it on the spur of the moment, that means the dancer didn’t consent.

Hi. See my earlier post. MJ is mistaken. In the RS articles, Adam confirmed that the kiss was unplanned; he did NOT say that the BJ was unplanned or spur of the moment. So, no sexual harrassment there.

Yes! #6 and #8 now! That’s higher by one place than it’s been all day.

girlygirly It showed up as #5 and #7 only if you excluded explicit albums.

And has no one heard ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’ ? This is now my personal favorite ‘“ it is AWESOME! At around the 2:40 mark, it sounds a lot like Ring of Fire.

ikr? except I don’t hve a favorite .I flove it all.

ughhhh 7:40…I’ll be at my locker…you know what the sad thing is..I’ve never heard Adam live on the radio..not once..

I thought the choreography was terrible. It was frenetic and disjointed. This is a dance tune and there was nothing about the performance that led to fist pumping, head bopping, or dancing in your seat. It really did not sell the song. If it weren’t for the ‘shocking’  aspect (and I didn’t find it all that shocking) ‘“ no one would be talking about it. If I found anything shocking it is that the performance fell so flat.

ITA!

Even days later i’m still addicted to Master Plan, i cant get this song out of my head lol

Are you sure? I could swear I saw it at #5 & #7 a few hours ago’ ¦

I think it was 5 and 7 only if you didn’t include explict material albums. Now he is 6 and 8 so he’s slowly moving up. He’s going to have to overtake Rhianna to reach top 5. This week so many big names have dropped albums.

I can tell ya what I want from ya Lambert – stay as far away as possible from my ears and my tv. Thanks.

sr4mjc
11/23/2009 at 6:19 pm
I just think Adam needs to take some of what is so cool to him, his friends who are in circus acts and gypsies and all the creative, talented people he is around and harness that and share it with people who have never been exposed to his world. And do it in a cool, positive light. He’s got it inside of him. I don’t want him being mainstream by any means. Edgy with a smile

^^^THIS!!! This is the direction I had hoped for. I really hope that someone whose opinion he respects, someone he as known for a long time is very honest with him about what went down last night. That type of performance may be what he wants ultimately, but he also wants to be ubber-popular and I don’t think those two desires can co-exist without compromise.

Even days later i’m still addicted to Master Plan, i cant get this song out of my head lol

Yeah. This song should have been on Adam’s official album and should have been his first single in my opinion. Its addictive and I LOVE the lyrics. they have actual meaning and I think a lot of people could relate.

zuper:

Does anyone know if FYE was written with the intent to tie it to sexual bondage? When I first heard the song and read the lyrics, it seemed like it was obviously an open letter to all of his Idol fans and the journey that lies ahead.

I wonder if this was (a) me being naive, (b) an intentional double meaning song from the start, (c)or afterwards, someone said ‘you know we could spice this up if we twist it this way’ .

I haven’t heard Adam address this in interviews, but I haven’t listened to all 1,000+ interviews either. Anyone?

My own guess, zuper, without having heard Adam address it, is that it was meant from the start to have a double meaning — with an emphasis on telling the world that his idea of providing entertainment was going to be highly sexualized . That’s certainly how I reacted to it when I first heard it. (And I thought it was clever.) The only time i have heard Adam discuss the meaning of the lyrics was last night after the show, when he was asked (I think by Entertainment Tonight) about the highly sexualized nature of the performance, and he said that it was (among other things) about “being true to the lyrics of the song.” He may have talked about it elsewhere, I just don’t know.

Upon re-watching, I noticed that ABC bleeped “take the pain” during the line, “take the pleasure take the pain, I’m the master of both.” Why? Hadn’t they heard/seen the lyrics? Of all the things to bleep or edit, I don’t get that one.

I don’t believe the simulated fellatio and the kiss were spontaneous. Adam is a meticulous planner and rehearser. I think ABC, which trumpeted Adam’s “outrageous” performance all night, knew what it was getting. (Just like it knew that Eminem & 50 Cent were going to drop a lot of expletive-deleted bombs in their performance.) That doesn’t mean that these aspects of Adam’s performance were a great idea for a brand new artist’s debut as a solo act in front of a national, outside-the-Idol-bubble audience. Still, I think the biggest problem with the performance were that his vocals were not what they usually are. Time will tell as to whether this hurts him. For the record, I am hoping not.

mj

The amas weren’t his first controversy, and they won’t be his last.

MJ, ITA. And that’s fine with me. Because if they were his last, it would mean he had gone away, and I would not like that.

This is the direction I had hoped for. I really hope that someone whose opinion he respects, someone he as known for a long time his very honest with him about what down last night. That type of performance may be what he wants ultimately, but he also wants to be ubber-popular and I don’t think those two desires can co-exist without compromise.

I’m too looking forward to his next album. Like what the RS says “Next time, the hugely talented Lambert should make sure he’s going straight for the gut.”

LOL thanks for calling out Rolling Stone being a “card-carrying member of the over-hype machine”. Couldn’t have put it better myself.

gangreen….Thank you so very much. My husband and I are having a “laugh-gate” at that post. Much appreciated. Squirrely..way to think on your feet and Luv, just remember, this too shall pass.

hearing Eminem talk about rape and murder were a little more disturbing than Adam’s performance IMO

LOL you could actually make out what he was saying?
All I remember from that performance was “bleeeeeep”
I dont really like the material he has put out recently..same goes with Shakira, who is actually really smart and a great dancer but I dont like the whole “Shewolf” thing…again totally unnecessary.

also, I loved Lady Gaga’s performance…loved Alicia Keys…didnt really like Shakira…Adam saved JLo’s butt LOL..
and Rhianna sounded HORRIBLE…the dude from Green Day tried to do a falsetto at one point and went really off-key..
and Taylor Swift over Michael Jackson?? WTF??
Talk about entitlement.

IMHO Adam is just on a different level (with the exception of Gaga, Alicia keys, Christina Aguilera and Beyonce) especially in comparison with male artists…and imho we are just used to such high standards from him

ughhhh 7:40′ ¦I’ll be at my locker’ ¦you know what the sad thing is..I’ve never heard Adam live on the radio..not once..

Hi luv!
The sad thing is that I have been complaining about our DC stations in that they haven’t been playing any of Adam’s music. Well today…….
My favorite station MIX107.3 had a call-in hotline number for listeners to voice their opinions on Adam Lambert’s AMA performance. Still no music, but plenty of OPINIONS!!!

zuper
11/23/2009 at 6:25 pm
sr4mjc
11/23/2009 at 6:19 pm
I just think Adam needs to take some of what is so cool to him, his friends who are in circus acts and gypsies and all the creative, talented people he is around and harness that and share it with people who have never been exposed to his world. And do it in a cool, positive light. He’s got it inside of him. I don’t want him being mainstream by any means. Edgy with a smile

^^^THIS!!! This is the direction I had hoped for. I really hope that someone whose opinion he respects, someone he as known for a long time is very honest with him about what down last night. That type of performance may be what he wants ultimately, but he also wants to be ubber-popular and I don’t think those two desires can co-exist without compromise.

I vote for Zodiac dude (Lee Cherry?) who kept him from lighting his head on fire. Seriously, that guy seemed really professional.

dcglam, we are SO on the same page here.

I don’t know if this is relevant, but you know how they kept showing the audience during many of the performances to see if people were smiling or bopping along, etc.? (They focused the camera on Adam a number of times.) Well, they did a quick cut. NOTHING. Maybe the audience was intensely watching? They weren’t dancing, if that was the point of the performance.

It’s interesting to me that everyone I work with knows I’m a huge Adam fan and was looking forward to album drop this week. And there aren’t really any other big AI fans where I work, they pretty much think I’m nuts. Not one person came to my desk today to say anything about the AMAs and Adam. I thought when he popped up on Yahoo I’d probably hear something. Nothing at all today.

So, is he out of the Idol bubble yet? Or just hasn’t penetrated my office bubble, lol..

So now that Adam is playing Whataya Want From Me does that make it his new single? FYE is quickly losing spins, did not pick up any new ones from the AMAs, and did not get much of a bump on itunes. If it was some kind of plan to just have a splashy song for the AMAs and then have WWFM as the real single why did they make a video? Or does the logic dictate that FYE is a flop, and they are now turning to FYE. Once songs start to lose spins they drop fast. A video is not saving FYE. So I think that means we can declare Adam’s first single a bust?

ksgirlfordc
11/23/2009 at 6:10 pm
on itunes ready for purchase

Like I said, where’s the music?

Huh? I don’t understand this comment.

The music, very good music I might add, is on itunes.

I see no grounds for complaints, whatsoever! There was no nudity, no bad language, just implied situations with visual imagery. Plus, it aired at almost 11:00 which is outside the family hour. People can complain to ABC or the FCC, I guess, but I can’t see the complaints going anywhere.

I find it humorous to see the the same crowd (major media outlets, etc.) falling all over themselves to try and defend this travesty, especially given the ringer they ran the much tamer Danny Gokey through. The performance was not only offensive, it was a trainwreck. His vocals were terrible, he fell down and tumbled across the stage, he exuded nervousness…and that’s just the trainwreck part!

Adam is hiding behind faux claims of discrimination, claiming it’s because of the homosexuality of the kiss and SOME of the sexual acts. Bull. There was HUGE backlash against Britney and Madonna, and the reaction to janet Jackson’s boob being put on display was nearly cataclysmic. It has nothing to do with him being gay, it’s WHAT he did.

This type of thing would be appropriate for his own live show, where the fans are there to see him, and they know what type of show they are getting. The American Music Awards are not the proper venue to show that this is how you will perform.

For me, the kiss didn’t offend at all, but the grabbing of the strippers crotch and the simulated oral sex DID. It was lewd, and a symbol of a lot of what’s wrong with this country. Not that Adam is what’s wrong, but a lot of what he put on display last night is representative of part of it. I don’t want to see simulated oral sex, whether it be homosexual, heterosexual, or any other variation, and it shows the attitude that people are starting to have that will lead to a hedonistic society, which of course will eventually lead to the end of society as we know it.

I know this has gone from a post on pop music into a discussion of society at large, but whatever, I’ll finish up. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t have sex. I’m not even saying that people shouldn’t have dirty, nasty, S & M sex if they’re into that kind of thing. But there’s a place and a time for it to be displayed, and that’s not on national television

1500 complaints out of 12,000,000 viewers that’s quite a protest.

Gangreen you wish it was a bust.

John Mayer Tweet:

Lambert: Controversy: man-kiss. Gaffe: pending. Triumph: American Idol Superstar.
about 5 hours ago from Twittelator
http://twitter.com/johncmayer

I wasn’t happy with Adam’s performance at all. The one thing he has going for him, the one thing that makes him stand head and shoulders above everybody else is – that voice! But his vocals were off pitch throughout the song. This is not the Adam I have come to know and love.

The truth is that Adam doesn’t need all the silly s&m garbage and simulated oral sex and man on man kissing. He just needs to sing! He was the last to perform, but he is a new artist who had yet to sell a record. This is not the kind of first impression you want to make. It felt manipulative, phony and all set up for maximum shock value. Shock for shock’s sake. Not a good move at all.

I wouldn’t even pretend to know whether or not this will affect his career. Adam seems to court controversy deliberately. But is that a good thing? You risk losing sight of the talent. You also risk alienating people who might have checked out your debut album. I can’t believe that this is the type of artist Adam wants to be.

What happened to the Adam I saw on Idol? Adam standing there in the spotlight with almost no accompaniment, looking handsome in an elegant suit with his hair combed back and very little makeup. That’s the Adam I loved so much. The incarnation I saw last night bore no resemblance to that Adam.

Adam – you have it all in the palm of your hands! Don’t blow it!

that’s awesome dcglam:D I only listen to hot 99.5 and they play the same songs ..over..and over..and oveeeeer

I vote for Zodiac dude (Lee Cherry?) who kept him from lighting his head on fire. Seriously, that guy seemed really professional.

Could not agree more!

Gangreen you wish it was a bust.

How was it not a bust?!? Under 50,000 sold, not even cracking the top 40?!? Come on, be realistic. FYE is a failure.

The music, very good music I might add, is on itunes.

Sorry I don’t hold the same opinion.

Well, both Lee and Scarlett loved Adam’s performance last night, lol. The search continues.

I think Adam’s path is just going to be, well, Adam’s path. And it will be different. It’s not the path I wish he followed, but he’s getting to do what he wants so I guess it’s all good.

They’ve never promoted any single, so I have no idea of what they want for a first single. I like much of the music, and think there are a few hits. But FYE and WWFM are by far my least favorite.

I think there was too much hype and pressure on Adam. I do think that the Parent’s group has a point, although it was close to eleven. The AMA’s is for the general American public. I think it was too tasteless and disrespectful of the show’s audience. (A show which gave him the honor to close)

That type of performance may be what he wants ultimately, but he also wants to be ubber-popular and I don’t think those two desires can co-exist without compromise.

I feel at times Adam contradicts himself. He wants to show his freedom of expression, but on the other hand he acknowledges that it is all a business. We all know that “business” requires compromise. I feel in order for Adam to be truly successful, he will need to make a compromise between the two. He can still be his creative self, but he also needs to keep in mind that he wants to attract fans who will purchase his albums!

Wow Gangreen, on sale one day and it’s a failure. Like Bon Jovi said, he’s amazed at the high levels of expectations for these new American Idol contestants. And he states that, usually, for a new artist it takes 3 albums to actually breakout into the business.

Wow Gangreen, on sale one day and it’s a failure

I was talking about FYE the single……….

John Mayer is a funny dude…and seems to get it also!

@johncmayer
Last nights AMAs seems to have met all 3 award show requirements: a staged controversy, a gaffe and a triumph.
about 6 hours ago from Twittelator

Lambert: Controversy: man-kiss. Gaffe: pending. Triumph: American Idol Superstar.
about 6 hours ago from Twittelator

ksgirlfordc
11/23/2009 at 6:41 pm

The music, very good music I might add, is on itunes.

Sorry I don’t hold the same opinion.

Why sorry for your opinion?

i just want this out of my chest… i still love adam, so much..i still do.im still a big fan. il still follow him. being artistic is one part of his being, his talent is another one. all i want to say that adam ur voice is ur most powerful weapon.dats it. once u open ur mouth u have evrybody in ur hands. u caputured everyones attention. i know its should be ur focus. i love who u r. i honestly missed the adam i loved at AI but im very much fine of what ur doing ryt now, though its so shocking. all im saying pls ur too talented and that magical voice will definitily make u the icon ur destined to be. i stll adore u and will be purchasing ur album once it will be available in my country.

Does anyone know if FYE was written with the intent to tie it to sexual bondage? When I first heard the song and read the lyrics, it seemed like it was obviously an open letter to all of his Idol fans and the journey that lies ahead.

Now see, when I first heard the lyrics, I thought, “sex play” including bondage and some S&M right from the start. I guess that tells you where my mind goes. I think you’d have to ask Claude Kelly, though. He’s the one who wrote the song.

It might have been interesting if he locked lips with Keith Urban or better yet Kris Allen. Now that might have been something to talk about.

This is getting out of control. Where were they when Brit was kissing Madonna or during any of the racy performances of the. They are doing this because he is a gay man and American is fine with lesbians but still not with gay men

lol what if he had Locked lips with Randy Travis? lol

calvinshobbes, thanks for the ratings — there are a number of wrong reports that the ratings peaked in last hour on the web. Not sure it matters that much — Carrie was in a high viewership segment [because it was BEPs and Rihanna IMO], GaGa had the biggest audience but Adam got all the press. And the show did well.

AMA’s averaged 14.2 million, #2 to NBC NFL Football with an average of 14.9 million. But since these are the Fast Affiliate numbers, it is a statistical tie. But AMAs won Adults 18-49 (5.5/13). “AMAs” dominated its 3-hour time period in other key demographics, including Women 18-34 (5.8/16), Women 18-49 (6.9/17), Women 25-54 (7.6/17) and Teens 12-17 (3.2/11).

“American Music Awards” surged year to year by 2.0 million viewers (14.2 million vs. 12.2 million) +8% in Adults 18-49 (5.5/13 vs. 5.1/12) with largest audience since 2002 and its highest Adult 18-49 number since 2004. TV’s 3rd-highest-rated awards show this year in Adults 18-49, behind only the “Oscars” and “Grammys,” outperforming CBS’ “2009 Emmy Awards” by 31% in the key young adult sales demo (5.5/14 vs. 4.2/11 on 9/20/09).

2009 American Music Awards (ABC)
8:00 p.m.: 7.8/12 (#2)
8:30 p.m.: 8.9/13 (#2)
9:00 p.m.: 10.1/15 (#1) audience 15.5 million Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna and Carrie
9:30 p.m.: 10.5/16 (#1) audience 15.7 million Lady GaGa, MJ Blige, JLo
10:00 p.m.: 10.5/15 (#1) audience 15.2 million Whitney Houston, Alicia Keys, Eminem and 50 Cent
10:30 p.m.: 9.2/13 (#2) Green Day, Adam Lambert
Total broadcast: 14.16 million viewer average for 8-11PM.

Sources: Nielsen Media Research, MediaWeek, AMA/DCP schedule

I don’t know if this is relevant, but you know how they kept showing the audience during many of the performances to see if people were smiling or bopping along, etc.? (They focused the camera on Adam a number of times.) Well, they did a quick cut. NOTHING. Maybe the audience was intensely watching? They weren’t dancing, if that was the point of the performance.

Yes, and this made me very sad.

‘Last night’s ‘American Music Awards’ broadcast was nothing short of tasteless and vulgar. Adam Lambert, the second-place finisher in last season’s ‘American Idol’ competition, chose to treat American families to simulated oral sex and other demeaning behavior. ABC and Dick Clark Productions had every reason to know what to expect, as Lambert himself proclaimed that his performance would be ‘very sexy’ and would include leather and chains. But the producers and the network chose to bury their heads in the sand.

what a bunch of bull sh&t.not what they’re saying,sone of that is true,but just the fact they would interfere.UGH..

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20312226_20322147_15,00.html

Slezak’s track by track “review” of FYE….lots o pretty pictures!

This is so embarassing, maybe PARENTS should just watch what there kids watch ,to see if it is to dirty, instead of complaining.

I just saw the performance a few times again. Actually it wasn’t bad. Last night I was under the impression that it wasn’t good because the vocals were not as great as I expected, but mostly because of the fall. I mean, when he fell I thought that the hole performance went to hell. J-lo bounced back like a basket ball (although her fall was pretty funny – shame on me, I know), but his fall was ugly. He rolled over for god sakes! But when I watched it again today, knowing that he was gonna fall and recover, I saw a totaly different performance. I was actually quite exciting. I mean, it wasn’t great and I expected better, but wasn’t a treinwreck (trainwreck? none of the above?).

There were excited screams from the audience when he simulated the BJ.

I spent many hours today reading this blog (I totaly should get a life, or some work done), and I’m gonna be honest with you: many, many posters hated Adam’s performance, but most of the people that posted repeatedly to enphasize how much it sucked were people that didn’t like Adam in the first place, that were probably mad the he got the AMA gig, that got even more bitter because of the way ABC pimped him all night long, and that would criticize his performance anyway. The fact that is was not all that great really made those people’s day. They had a lot of fun saying that he sucked, that he commited career suicide, even that he was a jerk. Well, people are entitled to their opinions, but is not true that nobody applauded at the end.

(I’m sorry, but I can’t really spell in english. I hope you can understad my post)

As always,Q3, thank you for that information and thank you for the positively brillant threads at Planet Fierce. You truly are unbelievable.

This is not the kind of first impression you want to make. It felt manipulative, phony and all set up for maximum shock value. Shock for shock’s sake. Not a good move at all.

Nativenewyorker, I thought the same thing during the entire performance. I wanted Adam to knock the socks off the audience but in a good, positive way. Does anyone here believe Adam added more fans than he loss?

I am so disappointed because I wanted him to do an outstanding performance. I felt the Adam from American Idol was not there last night. Where was that beautiful voice?

I’m here to declare that what Adam did was not fallatio or even a blow job was not sex,,,Former President WIlliam Jefferson Clinton declare it so…Adam is safe! you all are barking up the wrong tree

I can’t say it ws the best but reviewing the performance 2nd time around was better because I was so nervous for him since there was incredible hype, not many could live up to the sky high expectation.

Well listening to my news tonight while cooking, a 5 minute discussion on Adam Lambert and the press was really nice so not all negative plus this gave him even more exposure for people who didn’t wagtch AMA’s

Now he’[s on extra TV

I felt to bad for him that I purposely went out and purchased a FEW more CD’s to hand out the college kids.

They’ve never promoted any single, so I have no idea of what they want for a first single. I like much of the music, and think there are a few hits

Don’t feel bad I don’t think they know what they want as the first single either.

Lol at this parent’s group. Adam isn’t a nanny or a babysitter.

This is so embarassing, maybe PARENTS should just watch what there kids watch ,to see if it is to dirty, instead of complaining.

So true! I have a 9 yo son who absolutely loves Adam. Before the AMAs even happened (and expecting exactly what we got — albeit I did not anticipate the poor execution)I told him that he could listen to Adam’s music but he could not watch his AMA performance because it was just for grown-ups (and he was sound asleep by 11 pm). I would let him watch Adam on morning shows, etc, because Adam’s performances are usually appropriate to his venue and time of day (eg singing and acousticy Starlight on GMA this summer instead of WLL or Bowie). But Adam is not a kids performer and has never held himself out as one.

gangreen29
11/23/2009 at 6:33 pm
So now that Adam is playing Whataya Want From Me does that make it his new single? FYE is quickly losing spins, did not pick up any new ones from the AMAs, and did not get much of a bump on itunes. If it was some kind of plan to just have a splashy song for the AMAs and then have WWFM as the real single why did they make a video? Or does the logic dictate that FYE is a flop, and they are now turning to FYE. Once songs start to lose spins they drop fast. A video is not saving FYE. So I think that means we can declare Adam’s first single a bust?

Who cares about singles? SIngles are promoted to sell albums and it is just one path. FYE album has now been for sale for 19 hours — it is
selling well in the US, Canada, and several other countries — but there is not clear lead track. Based on iTunes pop bars, here are the top sellng tracks by country:

US: FYE
Canada: FYE
UK: FYE
Denmark: If I Had You
Finland: WWFM
Norway: Soaked
Sweden: Soaked
France: T4M [album and tracks just released]
Italy: T4M [album and tracks just released]

And the chart performance for a new artist in other countries is impressive. Again iTunes chart ranks:

US deluxe #6 #4 pop; regular #8 #5 pop
Canada deluxe #7 #4 pop; regular #11 #6 pop
Mexico #75, #18 pop
UK #40, #20 pop
Finland #2, #2 pop
Norway #50, #2 pop
Denmark #17, #10 pop
Sweden #13, #8 pop
France #93, #35 pop [released 3 hours]
Italy #113 pop [just released, I do not have on sale time]

ughh my dad’s coming home now.I can’t use mjsbigblog,unless…

maybe adam will bounce back with his gma and letterman performance, we need just to wait and see. adam is such a bad ass and hes insanley talented. just hope he will be able to showcase his wonderful singing voice on this shows. and erased some bad buzz from the amas
.im still on u adam.i still lav yah.

Hat off to Adam Lambert!

I think this is a well calculated move(not including Kissing), he needed this performance. And Blessing the kiss to a guy!
If he sticked to the safe-side, like next Elvis, next Freddie Mercury, he would be regarded as a guilty pleasure for old-timers and never get new fans, ESP younger fans who think AI is a family show,so not cool at all.

I’m one of lod-timers, too, but I love this rebellious courageous guy!
Elvis, Beatles and The Rolling Stones were social enemies in those days.

His father posted some words about Adam’s performance somewhere (I can’t recall), but he compared his son to Icarus.

Does anyone know if FYE was written with the intent to tie it to sexual bondage? When I first heard the song and read the lyrics, it seemed like it was obviously an open letter to all of his Idol fans and the journey that lies ahead.

Of course it was, LOL. How can anyone not understand what the lyrics are about? Sure it is a double entendre but the sexual message is loud and clear, and Adam made it even more clear last night. It wasn’t an “accident” lol.

I don’t believe the simulated fellatio and the kiss were spontaneous. Adam is a meticulous planner and rehearser.

It’s possible that Adam knew what he was going to do, but didn’t tell ABC about the kiss and the bj.

So with 14.16 million people watching Adam, that means that only less than .011% of viewers actually complained to ABC. Not really a newsworthy figure.

And Bill Lamb’s review of Adam’s performance last night is so true:

” . . . he really had nothing more to prove about his voice. However, many of us wondered if he could move beyond the restrictions of the American Idol competition and “compete in the big leagues” with the likes of Lady Gaga? There are a number of successful competitors who have thus far failed when faced with “going it alone” outside the show. We now have our answer to that question which is an emphatic yes. On the night that Gaga smashed glass and played on a burning piano while violinists suffered in gas masks, Adam Lambert was still the talk of the show. If part of successful performance is riveting an audience’s attention, he has graduated into the big leagues.”

Who cares about singles?

Record labels. Especially record labels that manage pop artists. Adam’s album is doing alright on Itunes, certainly not burning up the chart, but the people buying now are the fans he carried over from idol. Where do the new fans come from without singes? Are you fine with virtually no sales after the first few weeks? I know RCA wouldn’t be. FYE the single is a failure, and that will make radio stations hesitant to play other songs of his.

(I’m sorry, but I can’t really spell in english. I hope you can understad my post)

your spelling was fine.great post.:)

Why sorry for your opinion?

Not sorry for my opinion. Sorry that I don’t agree with you and will probably get dumped on for it.

dot_jp wer is that? i really wana know his family reaction, his mom whos with him his brother neil and his father… dats would be interesting. kindly elaborate more.thnks.

luvadamlambert
11/23/2009 at 6:53 pm
lol what if he had Locked lips with Randy Travis? lol

haha
Rumors say that Randy Travis might have liked this.

Lol at this parent’s group. Adam isn’t a nanny or a babysitter.

Yeah for real…!

This stuff has been going on for along time..

Remember back in the mid 80′s Tipper Gore and the Parents Music Resource Center, bullshit! They released a list of the songs they found most objectional called the “filthy fifteen”….one of the songs was Cindy Laupers – She Bop which they listed as promoting masturbation.

Check out all 15 songs here pretty funny stuff…some things never change!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center

And the chart performance for a new artist in other countries is impressive. Again iTunes chart ranks:

US deluxe #6 #4 pop; regular #8 #5 pop
Canada deluxe #7 #4 pop; regular #11 #6 pop
Mexico #75, #18 pop
UK #40, #20 pop
Finland #2, #2 pop
Norway #50, #2 pop
Denmark #17, #10 pop
Sweden #13, #8 pop
France #93, #35 pop [released 3 hours]
Italy #113 pop [just released, I do not have on sale time]

Do you even know how many albums itunes sells in these markets? #93 France, #50 Norway, #75 Mexico, 113 POP Italy, #40 UK, we are talking a few thousand albums probably.

I spent many hours today reading this blog (I totaly should get a life, or some work done), and I’m gonna be honest with you: many, many posters hated Adam’s performance, but most of the people that posted repeatedly to enphasize how much it sucked were people that didn’t like Adam in the first place, that were probably mad the he got the AMA gig, that got even more bitter because of the way ABC pimped him all night long, and that would criticize his performance anyway. The fact that is was not all that great really made those people’s day. They had a lot of fun saying that he sucked, that he commited career suicide, even that he was a jerk. Well, people are entitled to their opinions, but is not true that nobody applauded at the end.

Maybe you are new here, but you aren’t supposed to question other poster’s motives. (Sorry mj if I am modding.)

Thanks luvadamlambert! You are so sweet!

That track-by-track from Slezak was a fun read. He loved it! But, oh my gosh how could he not like Pick U Up??? I love that song!

Record labels. Especially record labels that manage pop artists. Adam’s album is doing alright on Itunes, certainly not burning up the chart, but the people buying now are the fans he carried over from idol. Where do the new fans come from without singes? Are you fine with virtually no sales after the first few weeks? I know RCA wouldn’t be. FYE the single is a failure, and that will make radio stations hesitant to play other songs of his.

the album is fantastic and there are a number of potential singles. I will grant you that FYE did not work (which I do not find surprising)…the two top nyc area stations just added WWFM and appear to be playing it, Adam will be performing it on TV over the next few weeks, so I think it has a good chance to be a successful single (if Z100 and PLJ play it other stations will follow suit)…who knows, maybe radio will completely reject Adam; maybe he will be a huge success…the album has received mostly good to great reviews….lets see where we are in February

haha
Rumors say that Randy Travis might have liked this.

lol
ok,gangreen adam’s a failure we get it;D

kshirlfordc it’s been a while since you said that and I don’t see you getting dumped on…

I don’t think I crossed the line. But I’m sure MJ will delete or edit my post if I did.

Maybe its just me, but if parents were still letting their kids watch the AMA’s after Rihanna, Eminem, and Lady Gaga, I don’t think they should worry that Adam scarred them for life…geez!

The kiss may have been spur of the moment, but the simulated BJ? No fraking way. The first article in the headlines thread is an AP article about the rehearsal… and during the rehearsal he put the giy’s head in his crotch. So BS on claiming it was unplanned.

Just own up to it.

That track-by-track from Slezak was a fun read. He loved it! But, oh my gosh how could he not like Pick U Up??? I love that song!

My least favorite too, except for the laugh at the end.

Maybe its just me, but if parents were still letting their kids watch the AMA’s after Rihanna, Eminem, and Lady Gaga, I don’t think they should worry that Adam scarred them for life’ ¦geez

Yes, yes, to this! Thank you for saying it!

Ok, after all that was said today, and wondering what the hell was going on with Adam, what he did, said, is he got caught up in the moment, he said he doesnt even remember what happened, he needs to watch it back. That is sooo cool, can you imagine being Adam and that first big show, I would be stinking excited too, and yes he went overboard, but SO What, he will be back, heck I do a sport that I get so excited in I cant remember what went on when I was done, I can understand what he did, and I think that it made it so sexy, WOW. Ha Ha, no one would agree with me. OT, Happy BD to Miley Cyrus. I hope I dont need to hear you or Taylor so much, and more Adam on the radio,

mmb

So true! I have a 9 yo son who absolutely loves Adam. Before the AMAs even happened (and expecting exactly what we got ‘” albeit I did not anticipate the poor execution)I told him that he could listen to Adam’s music but he could not watch his AMA performance because it was just for grown-ups (and he was sound asleep by 11 pm). I would let him watch Adam on morning shows, etc, because Adam’s performances are usually appropriate to his venue and time of day (eg singing and acousticy Starlight on GMA this summer instead of WLL or Bowie). But Adam is not a kids performer and has never held himself out as one.

mmb – This is exactly the role of a parent. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that we are given parents for a reason. It is not an artists responsibility to shield children. It does not take a village – it takes a parent. Clearly, you get it.

Q3: Thanks for the numbers updates. The album seems to be holding pretty steady. In comparison, KA was down to #8 and #15 on the overall chart by 3:00 the day of release. I wonder if iTunes was a bigger percentage of sales for Kris because of the pass? FYE has done well on Amazon and it was also available on AO.

It’s funny. Going through the comments you get the sense that people think that if you didn’t like Adam’s performance last night, you’re a prude and you don’t understand rock n roll. If you did like his performance, for some reason you’re the epitome of tolerance and sexual liberation.

My stance is that I pretty much don’t appreciate when sex is being used as the selling point for someone’s music. I didn’t appreciate it when Janet Jackson was doing it, when Shakira was simulating sex on stage, or when Rihanna was half-naked during her pre-performance video. Similarly, I don’t appreciate Adam simulating a blow-job onstage. There’s nothing edgy about doing that, it’s tacky and desperate, ESPECIALLY for a new artist.

Also, the sad thing is that Adam is using Britney and Madonna as an example for why it should be OK for him to be overtly sexual onstage. Adam, you can sing 100 times better than these two people – why are you dumbing yourself down to get attention? He got attention on Idol by singing his socks off. We don’t need all this sexual brouhaha.

how is adams sales doing right now? any news on what he will sing on letterman?thnks.

I was talking with my 83-year old dad about the performance (faces in crotches, kissing men, leashes, etc.). He laughed and pointed out that jazz was blamed for crime, moral degeneracy and delinquency in his day. He also rattled off a long list of singers, groups and entertainers whose performances were thought to be raunchy, offensive and scandalous over the past 50 years. Hip gyrating, profanity spouting, bat head biting…way too much for me to recall. These people were all hugely controversial in their time, but they were also all successful artists doing what they wanted to do creatively.

I found out today that my dad is pretty cool for an octogenarian.

Adam did it baby! Controversy!!!!! WHOOP WHOOP!!!!!

mayang, he’s singing “What Do You Want From Me” on Letterman. Not sure about GMA. And he’s currently at #6 and #8 on the itunes chart for his deluxe and regular album, and at #5 on Amazon.

Looking forward to seeing him perform WYWFM on Letterman on Wednesday. It’ll be like when he sang Tracks of My Tears after singing Ring of Fire – and I thought that was pure genius by the way.

This is Adam’s father’s comment.
“Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.”

why are you dumbing yourself down to get attention?

There’s the question of the day!

Zsus are those numbers are good? nwey, its just the first day of his sales?thnks for the info.

Maybe its just me, but if parents were still letting their kids watch the AMA’s after Rihanna, Eminem, and Lady Gaga, I don’t think they should worry that Adam scarred them for life’ ¦geez!

^^^This! Why would you let young children watch the AMAs anyway? And why are they still awake at this time at night? It all comes down to parental responsibility.

He also rattled off a long list of singers, groups and entertainers whose performances were thought to be raunchy, offensive and scandalous over the past 50 years.

THIS !! Like when the police were called to Elvis’ Florida concerts to make sure he did not move at all on stage. So what did he do? He moved his little finger and the crowd went wild.

I think they are, mayang. Susan Boyle, who is supposed to sell around 400K is ahead of him, along with 2 Lady Gaga albums, Rhianna and John Mayer. So, he’s got tough competition. People are reporting the CD is sold out at some Best Buys. So, I guess that’s good news.

I have been looking for this…. check out The View’s view on this…

This clip does not show it, but Barbara mentioned at the end of this that Adam would be part of here Most Fascinating People 2009 which will air Dec. 9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2liq22pN8&feature=PlayList&p=AnQHRmmz6z4

Barbara mentioned at the end of this that Adam would be part of here Most Fascinating People 2009 which will air Dec. 9.

And Barbara was probably thanking her lucky stars that Adam did something outrageous last night.

dot_jp
11/23/2009 at 7:41 pm
This is Adam’s father’s comment.
‘Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.’ 

I just love his parents….they are so supportive. Just lovely!

sori for being ignorant why adam is being compared to icarus by his dad? who is icarus?thnks again. ur all so kind.

Someone help me out here:

If FYE is #6 for the Deluxe Version and #8 for the Regular Version, what would it be if you added those together or am I missing how they do this?

Can’t wait for CD sales figures!! I don’t care where he ranks I just want him to sell well. Best buy sold out of some…cool beans. I’d go check it out myself tomorrow but I’m heading into NYC to see Adam Wednesday morning. Bringing my 9 yr old….I must be a bad mother (or just hoping for a PG-13 performance for daytime!) LOL She won’t watch the show lfrom ast night, but I will, just for another WTF moment from Adam. He is priceless.

ommmaaa my dad came in an he heard about how “bad” Adams thing was.h said tone down ur Adam love or ur banns from everything Adam.yeah right.:p

adam has wonderful parents. his dad seems to be nice.his mom has always be wonderful and he has a very rascal brother. i know wer adam is coming from. i know on his next performance we will see the poser of his voice, dats adam outrageous for a while then the next time ul see him he tends to be so fragile and vulnerable.

FYE digital album (on sale) has moved ahead of Rhianna (also on sale) on Amazon.t is now #1.

mayang – Icarus in greek mythology was imprisoned in exile along with is father. His father made wax wings for him and his son to fly away. Icarus in his excitement flew too close to the sun and his wings melted, thus falling out of the sky and into the sea.

Billboard noise called it a trainwreck and I agree.

In today’s Daily Noise, brought to you by Fuse and Billboard.com, last night’s American Music Awards offered up plenty to talk about, including Taylor Swift’s five awards and strong performances from Jay-Z, Keith Urban and Kelly Clarkson, among others. But the real buzz is around the train wrecks, from Jennifer Lopez’s wipe out to Adam Lambert’s chaotic closing performance, which included his own spill and some interesting displays of sexuality. We also catch up with stars on the red carpet including Drake, Leona Lewis and Keri Hilson.

To be honest…I didn’t even wake up out of my bored haze until Adam came on. Then when I saw him take that guys head and ram it in his crotch..I just let out the hugest guffaw. I almost wasn’t sure it happened lol. Then when he kissed the keyboard player I didn’t even know if it was a girl or guy to begin with. Wow, talk about entertainment haha. Too bad the sound was a mess but it was hilarious I thought. One of his songs I’m completely in love with. It’s about time a male power singer got out there and shook things up, and the fact that hes gay makes it even more delicious to me. hehe.

sori for being ignorant why adam is being compared to icarus by his dad? who is icarus?thnks again. ur all so kind.

Icarus was a character in Greek mythology whose father made him some wax wings so he could fly but warned him not to fly too close to the sun or they’d melt. Unfortunately Icarus did fly too close to the sun, the wings melted and he fell to his death. It’s a cautionary metaphor.

I agree with Slezak on nearly every track he reviewed (no grade, tho: probably an A-, I’m guessing, tho Leah Greenblat gave it a B+). He loved all of the introspective songs, so I love him for that. He even liked TfM. As one of the 5 people in the Idolsphere who did, good on you, Michael!

I cannot wait to talk about the “Music Again.”

Hey mayan,
I can’t do link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus

sori for being ignorant why adam is being compared to icarus by his dad? who is icarus?thnks again. ur all so kind.

Icarus is a characer from Greek mythology mayang. His father made them both sets of wings out of feathers and wax so that they could escape from exile .. but Icarus was curious and dared to fly too close to the sun and his wings melted and he fell to his death.

Basically Adam’s dad is saying that Adam is a bit of a free spirit who dares to take risks .. and that last night his wings may have been burned a bit but that’s just him and he’ll pull himself together and continue to be the free spirit that he is ..

hi guys.ill try to sneak my iPod upstairs so I can be here:)

Looking forward to seeing him perform WYWFM on Letterman on Wednesday. It’ll be like when he sang Tracks of My Tears after singing Ring of Fire ‘“ and I thought that was pure genius by the way.

I said the exact same thing to my friend today who was totally handwringing over the entire incident. He balances out EVERYTHING he does- very yin and yang. And once again, all the haters will STFU until next time. Am I the only one who knows this routine, lol?

Can someone post the Slezak review please?. I can’t find it.

I’ve been staying away from the blog today because I just didn’t have the energy to read all the comments about the Adam controversy. I was mostly disappointed that Adam’s voice was not it’s usual ‘amazing’ quality. The whole performance seemed very disjointed to me. Too much movement going on! I just think the shock value thing could of been done in a differrent way. I quess I just didn’t like the ‘aggressive vibes’ from the performance. Adam is such a postitve person…wish he would have gone about this performance in a more ‘fun’ and ‘get up and move your asses’ way.

I’ve been listening to FYT album all day! I absolutely love so many of the songs…I can’t get them out of my head. He has so much pressure and expectatoins on him, I hoping Adam gets back to just ‘creating some great music that can be fun and entertaining for us fans!

And, by the way, the Rap people last night had to be bleeped all through their performances!. Now the language they used…that’s what I call ‘offensive’.

thnaks everyone for enlightng me, im not so much with greek mythology but thnks again. ive read on the tread that he is already number 1 on amazon? is that true. sori, we dnt have amazon and itune in my country, his album will only be available on friday. so we will be waiting up to friday hir. thnks again guys.

tiger92
11/23/2009 at 7:42 pm
Maybe its just me, but if parents were still letting their kids watch the AMA’s after Rihanna, Eminem, and Lady Gaga, I don’t think they should worry that Adam scarred them for life’ ¦geez!

^^^This! Why would you let young children watch the AMAs anyway? And why are they still awake at this time at night? It all comes down to parental responsibility.

This is ridiculous. Who was at the AMAs? Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift won a bunch of awards. Of course the kids were watching. It shouldn’t even have weighed heavily on Adam – the AMAs in general should have been panned for being too sexually explicit. From Shakira’s gyrating to Alicia Keys feeling herself up to Rihanna half naked in her pre-performance video to Eminem singing about violence to Carrie Underwood’s ridiculously short dress – the AMAs were pretty much just sexing up the stage! The only reason Adam is the focal point of all this is because he happened to close the show, leaving a very distinct impression of him simulating a blow job onstage. That was by far the most memorable compared to any gyrating done onstage.

And people wonder why Miley Cyrus wants to take off her clothes nowadays.

The faster you rise to stardom, the harder you fall. Adam may be a media darling right now, but as fast as they create this superstar image, they just as quickly can destroy it. I just wish Adam would have been introduced to the non-AI world and gotten buzz because of a great performance, which last night definately was not.

im still a fan and will always be a fan and owuld always be optimistic. wat is the title of the bonus track on adam’s album with rabbbit on it? can u give a link on it on you tube? ive learned i can listen to it there. thnks.

I was not offended by AL’s performance….just thought it was stupid. I thought he was quoted as saying he wanted it to be all about the music. Well…it wasn’t.

Kissing, hot groping, and oral sex are all positive, vastly superior activities,

Best quote of the night.

It’s called Down The Rabbit Hole mayang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4gaYCWq45E

how is he doing right now?

This is Adam’s father’s comment.
‘Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.’ 

Oh my gosh! I just love this!

wait monte is adam falling right now?he is just picking up the pace bb.right on.

luvadamlambert

hi guys.ill try to sneak my iPod upstairs so I can be here:)

Did your dad let you watch AMA or did you just see the video clips? I hope your parents don’t ban Adam from your house

does adam’s mom and dad has a tweeter account too? LOL

This is Adam’s father’s comment.
‘Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.’ 

And his brother:

negativeneil

1. Ninja rolled across the stage. Then said “its alright” in song about 7 hours ago from twidroid
2. My brother about 7 hours ago from twidroid

I Love..ed Adam, and my children love Adam, more… They will NEVER be allowed to watch anything he does.. ever.

I don’t care what anybody says, that was a HUGE f..up, it has nothing to do with his “sexual prefrence..etc” he acted a fool. Adam had so much going for him, and still will have an okay career, but he killed his chance as “Super stardom” last night… sad.

adam has a wonderful family, dats all i can say.

wer did u get adam’s father comment?

negativeneil

1. Ninja rolled across the stage. Then said ‘its alright’  in song about 7 hours ago from twidroid
2. My brother about 7 hours ago from twidroid

????????? what the heck is he saying?

Well I found the Slezak review and was very surprised how much he loved it after what he said about Adam’s performance. The only thing that saddens me about this whole AMA this is the fact that this very amazing album does not have the spotlight. But, this was Adam’s choice. I do have confidence however that eventually the music and the talent will overcome. Oh, Adam.

1. Ninja rolled across the stage. Then said ‘its alright’  in song about 7 hours ago from twidroid
2. My brother about 7 hours ago from twidroid

????????? what the heck is he saying?

My brother Ninja rolled across the stage. Then said “its alright” in song.

clearone, neil is just descrbing wat happened to adam on his performance and compare him to a ninja, he is so rascal right always picking on adam….

I said the exact same thing to my friend today who was totally handwringing over the entire incident. He balances out EVERYTHING he does- very yin and yang. And once again, all the haters will STFU until next time. Am I the only one who knows this routine, lol?

Your right, knowing Adam, he will say something or do something and all the hand wringing will began again. I have never seen anything like this, that one guy, can cause this many people to totally lose their minds. We really should start some type of chart of Adam incidents and fan/foes reactions. I think he will keep all of us entertained for years, with his antics. I can’t wait to see what he say to David Letterman, it should be fun.

????????? what the heck is he saying?

Clearone, after Adam did the drop and roll, he sang the line “It’s alright… hold on tight..” So, that’s what he meant. He said, “My brother” because people didn’t know who “ninja” was. Neil was tweeting as he watched the show live.

lorenzo
I Love..ed Adam, and my children love Adam, more’ ¦ They will NEVER be allowed to watch anything he does.. ever.

How old are your kids? Make sure they don’t have internet or friends with internet or they will watch him again if they are still interested. It’s pretty hard to shield kids nowadays.

I am glad to see Adam’s albums are still holding steady. 6 and 8 overall and 4 and 5 pop. Yay, this album deserves to be heard.

There’s nothing wrong with sex. Worry about Afghanistan if you want to worry about something.

Sorry but there is plenty wrong with BJ’s on national television.

any news on lettermans show?

Natasha
11/23/2009 at 8:35 pm
This is ridiculous. Who was at the AMAs? Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift won a bunch of awards. Of course the kids were watching. It shouldn’t even have weighed heavily on Adam ‘“ the AMAs in general should have been panned for being too sexually explicit.

There’s nothing wrong with sex. Worry about Afghanistan if you want to worry about something.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with sex, yes, however I wasn’t talking about sex in general. Sorry if it offends you that a lot of people prefer a MUSIC awards show to be about talented people singing rather than people groping each other and simulating blowjobs on stage. I guess that’s the “cool” thing nowadays. How trendy and edgy!

I Love..ed Adam, and my children love Adam, more’ ¦ They will NEVER be allowed to watch anything he does.. ever.

Oh! Good luck with that. I mean it sincerely. I recall my own plans for my child: He’ll never watch MTV. He will never be allowed to listen to Eminem or any rap music, for that matter. I will never let him watch the horribly violent gorefests like CSI. I will decide the length and cut of his hair. Fail on all accounts. Also, a little tip. The more you hate on Adam, the more your kids are going to love him.

Bowie 1, ditto on not enough energy to go back through the blog and I also agree with you regarding listening to Adam’s music all day and enjoying it. While I was personally disappointed lastnight with what MY expectations were, now I can actually appreciate it from a 27 yr. old amazingly talented, creative free spirit wild child and I keep smiling. I am now remembering what it was like for my husband and I when we were in our twenties, typical hippies, long hair, VW driving the whole ten yards. Now three kids, three grandkids,
husband physician, me admin. assist. and very ordinary not exciting life at all. I admire Adam, it is his life, his career, which I still believe is going to be huge, and I am going to stay on the roller coaster with him. He makes me smile and last night my husband said, wish he would have sung Ring of Fire again, that kid can SING. I am looking forward to Letterman, new day, new performance that is what is exciting about Adam Lambert!!!!

getting ready for that next bold leap.

Some might be thinking:
“Please, kindly, no more ‘bold leaps’ for just a bit, OK?” Bring on the vocal talent. “Shock” the world with the amazing vocal talent.

from IDF:

David didn’t say anything about last night. He just showed Adam’s CD as he introduced Adam.

The audience responded very well. They asked us not to scream because it messes up their sound system but encouraged clapping. Lots of people screamed, including myself, screamed for him anyway, but we just tried not to be too high pitched. It wasn’t anything like an Idol concert but the response he got was still way better than what Natilie Portman got before him.

I thought he looked happy but maybe a little nervous before the performance. After he sang he gave us all a wave and a grin. They started ushering everybody out right away so there wasn’t any more opportunity for interaction.

He stood the whole time and there was no moody lighting that I remember. He didn’t have much room so there wasn’t much danceing but he did emote very effectively and he turned to the side to sing a little bit to Tommy (is that his name) which was cute.

Was lurking on yes.com – someone there was at the Letterman taping – said Adam sang WWFM, sounded awesome and looked great – emo hair, not sure what he was wearing – no interview though

aa618892.. agreed this album deserves to be heard, it is awesome. Sings like an angel, plays like the devil. Love it and Adam.

At least Adam’s not going to see the money from parents to buy his cd for the kiddes. The kids can still download it for free.

Alienating potential buyers is stupid. Especially after alienating straight dudes with the album cover, Adam seems to set out to alienate his only fans left–middled aged obssessed women.

Alienating potential buyers is stupid. Especially after alienating straight dudes with the album cover, Adam seems to set out to alienate his only fans left’“middled aged obssessed women.

What band would want him to open for them.He better hope that gaga or katy perry takes him.No magor act wants that crowd at there show.Times are to hard to take that chance on losing sales to there fans.

That’s wonderful that he sounded great for letterman. Fianally!

Alienating potential buyers is stupid. Especially after alienating straight dudes with the album cover, Adam seems to set out to alienate his only fans left’“middled aged obssessed women.

If that is Adam’s only fans, then he still have a pretty sizeable fanbase. Appreciate you mentioning it, I guess I will go back to my housework, while watching Oprah and eating dingdongs.

i hate the song he will be singing, but at this point, I just want him to sound pretty again.

dot_jp - Do you have the link where you found that response from Adam’s dad? Where did that come from? It’s beautiful.

What band would want him to open for them.

you can’t be real. the next elvis and mj combined will open for others? plus, bands usually do cheaper concert settngs. adam’s type of concert is going to be those very expensive set-up and sound/lighting shows.

What band would want him to open for them.He better hope that gaga or katy perry takes him.No magor act wants that crowd at there show.Times are to hard to take that chance on losing sales to there fans.

I think anyone who buys a ticket is more than welcome to attend any concert, also the demographic you are talking about is more likely to *buy* music as opposed to the younger crowd who prefers to get it *free* which partly explains SuBo’s huge sales IMHO.

Anyway, if you play your cards right you too will be old someday and you might just want to go to a concert and shake your booty!

clearone
11/23/2009 at 8:39 pm

There’s nothing wrong with sex. Worry about Afghanistan if you want to worry about something.

Sorry but there is plenty wrong with BJ’s on national television.

What Adam did last night didn’t bother me, but WHERE he did it was both concerning and disappointing. I just don’t think he picked the right time or place to let it all hang out like that. I was looming here online last night but was too stunned and had too many conflicting emotions running through me to give an intelligent comment. Today, I’m ready to move on with Adam and the rest of his amazing (albeit sometimes scary!) ride.

Who ELSE was at the AMA’s? Lady Gaga, Eminem . . . Adam wasn’t the only “non-Disney” act there. Also, is simulated oral sex inherently more evil and morally offensive than OTHER simulated sex, which there’s plenty of and everywhere, and if so . . . why?

you can’t be real. the next elvis and mj combined will open for others? plus, bands usually do cheaper concert settngs. adam’s type of concert is going to be those very expensive set-up and sound/lighting shows.

Keep dreaming his second week sales will be so low he can only hope RCA doesn’t drop him before the first of the year.You need money for that kind of show.

I said months ago subo sales would blow most peoples minds.So take my word on this 1 too.

Of WWFM takes off he might be ok

First I want to say, I am a Kris Allen fan. Everyone on this site who was here throughout the competition on AI knows that. That being said, I believe Adam Lambert is extraordinarily talented with an incredible voice. I also like his personality and sense of humor. His performance last night was vulgar and I was incredibly disappointed. I wanted to hear his voice soar like it can. Instead I heard all of the things that I didn’t like about him on the show. The screaming, the overblown production at the expense of the musicality, the sexually explicit gyrations. Did he make a statement, yes. Is he polarizing, yes. Basically I really didn’t like the song. If this is a sample of his CD it is too bad. He may be the next great performer for some people, but count me out. I like someone who respects the music more than the statement. For me it was a great big yuck!

Organic,

I found it while reading the comments at Queerty.

http://www.queerty.com/so-lady-gaga-was-pretty-great-at-the-amas-and-adam-lambert-was-pretty-terrible-20091123/

No.56

Was lurking on yes.com ‘“ someone there was at the Letterman taping ‘“ said Adam sang WWFM, sounded awesome and looked great ‘“ emo hair, not sure what he was wearing ‘“ no interview though

Oh, thank God, the return of emo! hair. *shallow*

Score on WWFM (I play it over and over).

Anyway…I cannot WAIT till we just get to talk about his music again. I mean, really, his album is so good. And maybe Adam wants us to talk about how playful his performances are, or so fierce, or funny, or how he breaks boundaries, and people get excited or disgusted, but at the end of the day, what will I remember or care about? The music. Every week during the season, I thought, Geez, what song will he sing? How will he change it up? I never thought about what he was going to wear or how he was going to walk or dance (except during the finale, when he sang MW in his long coat amidst the dry ice with this earnest look and I melted). I was just excited about song choice and arrangement and vocal prowess. And I still am.

YMMV

What I find ridiculous too is that Adam is using Britney and Madonna as an excuse for what he did last night, pointing the finger and saying “Well, you didn’t have a problem with it when THEY were doing it!” Those two pretty much built their careers on being objectified and relegated to sex kittens onstage. Ask people if they respect Britney and Madonna, and they will tell you that they are great entertainment but they are pretty much viewed as trashy rather than iconic. They had to build their careers on sex, I guess, considering they don’t have half the voice Adam has and wouldn’t have gotten far on vocals alone. So by wanting to be given the same treatment as Britney and Madonna, Adam is pretty much demanding that he not be discriminated against for wanting to objectify himself on national television.

Oh okay then.

Where did the Icarus quote from Eber Lambert come from? If anyone knows, please provide a link! THANKS!

gangreen29
11/23/2009 at 7:16 pm

Who cares about singles?

Record labels. Especially record labels that manage pop artists. Adam’s album is doing alright on Itunes, certainly not burning up the chart, but the people buying now are the fans he carried over from idol. Where do the new fans come from without singes? Are you fine with virtually no sales after the first few weeks? I know RCA wouldn’t be. FYE the single is a failure, and that will make radio stations hesitant to play other songs of his.

Record labels make no money on singles — they make money on albums. FYE Deluxe iTunes revenue = 13 singles at $1.29, and there is no expense for radio promo. The vast majority of single never make money, never are profitable.

FYE is still climbing the charts. There are now reports that some Best Buy and Target locations are sold out of FYE CD’s, so looks like this may be more than Idol fans.

Anyway’ ¦I cannot WAIT till we just get to talk about his music again. I mean, really, his album is so good.

I agree. What’s interesting to me is that WDYWFM is not my favorite song on the album. But, as soon as my teenaged son heard it, he said, “That one.” (As in – yeah. That’s the hit.) Sadly, he refuses to share my taste in music, so I could barely get him to listen all the way through much else (except he did like Strut and If I Had You.) As for last night’s controversy, he said, “Why are people surprised he kissed a dude? He’s told everyone’s he gay.” I said, “Well, people were more upset, I think, about him shoving his crotch into one of the dancer’s faces.” He was like, “Whatever.”

Then get a clue. It’s up to parents to monitor their kids not Adam or ABC especially at 11pm at night.

I think anyone who caught Adam’s act this summer should have known what was up. You’re certainly on notice now so don’t complain the next time it happens.

Um, Natasha? First of all, there’s no reason to be rude, at all. Second of all, reread my post, because I don’t think you read what I said. I said *I* know better, and my kids did NOT watch the show, but my point was that there are people who DO NOT KNOW about him (or the other artists) and that it might have come as a shock to others. It’s a pretty big stretch to think that these people who let their kids watch the show followed Adam on tour. The show *in general* could have used a stronger warning. I for one do not generally equate award shows with suggestive performances, though I happen to know who the acts were here and figured that would happen. Third, as others have stated, for people in Central time it was NOT that late at night. So there were, I’m quite certain, kids who were still up.

Just read the NPR review and I agree that Adam is lucky everyone is talking about his shock factor last night and not about how it wasn’t a great singing performance. He has in the past been so technically on, and I hope he wows people on letterman. No doubt lots of people will be watching!

Then get a clue. It’s up to parents to monitor their kids not Adam or ABC especially at 11pm at night.

Has sad as it is do you really think its about the kids.Do you think any straight guy is going to see hin now?

Who ELSE was at the AMA’s? Lady Gaga, Eminem . . . Adam wasn’t the only ‘non-Disney’  act there. Also, is simulated oral sex inherently more evil and morally offensive than OTHER simulated sex, which there’s plenty of and everywhere, and if so . . . why?

heh, no, I don’t want to see any of it on my TV. I’d like on a music awards show to hear people sing well… pipe dream, that one

The comment posted in this thread IS NOT from Adam’s father. It is from a twitter imposter. Adams dad (Eber) posted in Adam official that that he does not have a twitter account and someone is using his name.

Record labels make no money on singles ‘” they make money on albums. FYE Deluxe iTunes revenue = 13 singles at $1.29, and there is no expense for radio promo. The vast majority of single never make money, never are profitable.

Q3, it isn’t about singles generating revenue, it is that singles are needed to give an album legs, and to expose an artist to new listeners. Record labels do not like when artists can’t move albums past the first couple weeks, and how is Adam going to keep selling his album without a hit single?

This is Adam’s father’s comment.
‘Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.’ 

Icarus got so got up in his ability to fly, he forgot his father’s warning not to fly too close to the sun and fell in the ocean and drowned. Sometimes you just gotta be wise.

In the Central Time Zone, the show is on 7-10. Plus there’s many parents that have no idea who Adam Lambert is and that he would put on a peformance that was vulgar.

Did they also not know that Rhianna, Janet, JLo, Alicia, and Lady Gaga would be vulgar? Have they not paid attention to music videos, these music awards shows, and the state of pop culture for the past 30 years? Also, what did these same parents say to their kids when the male dancers around Carrie were rubbing their crotches? “Oh, they’ve just got a little itch?” The music industry has become highly sexualized, for better or worse. Honestly, this is just nothing new. What IS new is that it was a man pulling another man towards his crotch. There have been plenty of dance routines where the male dancers look like they’re going down on the female dancers. There’s lots of crotch-grabbing and air humping and stage humping. There’s men rubbing against women’s asses to simulate sex. If you don’t want your kids to see that, don’t let them watch awards shows. But, don’t blame Adam for what’s an industry-wide practice.

I still have Adam’s performance vid up here. Also have the bonus track Down the Rabbit Hole posted if you haven’t listened to it yet.

@Julesjules – nice post. I agree.

Q3, it isn’t about singles generating revenue, it is that singles are needed to give an album legs, and to expose an artist to new listeners. Record labels do not like when artists can’t move albums past the first couple weeks, and how is Adam going to keep selling his album without a hit single?

Because there are so many possible hits, that fans are buying the whole album and not the singles. Some artist sell albums, some sell singles.

3,300 new twitter followers and yes’ ¦I appreciate that it doesn’t mean to say they will buy his album.

When are they goimg to buy his music? or can it be the same people buying 5-6 copies of his album.The numbers don’t match and they never will.

To me is seemed like a ‘pack mentality’. Let’s put the boot in today to assuage all that angst and jealousy that was suffered yesterday. I am an Adam fan mainly (Danny was my second choice) and was disappointed in the performance mainly because I was expecting the vocals to be good and they weren’t. Wasn’t bothered about the sexual content ‘“ I’ve seen worse on VH1 and MTV and he was just acting out the song. (Think that choreographer Jaime should have done better though). I was certainly feeling down as he hadn’t ‘killed’ the vocals. Came on MJ’s for the after show discussion and critique and instead was just bowled over by the hate and glee in what some people considered to be Adam’s downfall. Read a few pages and left.

I certainly don’t see the performance as a train wreck just the next slightly unsteady step in his career progression. In the last 26.5 hours at least he has gained over 3,300 new twitter followers and yes’ ¦I appreciate that it doesn’t mean to say they will buy his album.

I have to agree with everything stated here. Adam took a risk, and it may or may not have paid off. He was off vocally, but still, there is no getting around his immense talent and he will have time to shine this week at other televised performances.

Well this is a boring nite, I wish Adam was performing again, at least he woke me up the only performance that did that, I could watch another one tonite, having withdrawl.

If you don’t want your kids to see that, don’t let them watch awards shows. But, don’t blame Adam for what’s an industry-wide practice.

Sigh. I didn’t blame Adam for anything. There were many acts that were inappropriate for kids. Many of which were well before kiddie bedtime. A little stronger warning for the show would not have been out of place. I’m all for freedom of expression and what have you, but I’m also for giving people the tools to make decisions about what their kids should be watching, and that shouldn’t be based on assuming that people follow pop culture trends.

And, BTW, I don’t watch VH-1 or MTV or any video show, nor do I listen to Top 40 radio around my kids. Too much of it is inappropriate, and my kids are too little to be exposed to it. I watched parts of this show to see Kelly & Daughtry, I wouldn’t want my kids to watch Carrie’s set either, or Shakira’s, or any other set involving any oversexed bumping and grinding. And yeah, I won’t be watching that show again, and if my kids *were* watching it would’ve been turned off very quickly. But I am quite certain that there were people with kids who didn’t know what to expect. I haven’t watched the AMAs in years, now I know why.

Because there are so many possible hits, that fans are buying the whole album and not the singles. Some artist sell albums, some sell singles.

FYE wasn’t a hit, so why are you assuming other songs are going to be? If you think Adam doesn’t need singles go ahead and think that, but I’m going to continue to think that without hit songs his album will be a one week wonder.

I think anyone who buys a ticket is more than welcome to attend any concert, also the demographic you are talking about is more likely to *buy* music as opposed to the younger crowd who prefers to get it *free* which partly explains SuBo’s huge sales IMHO.

This just in…. Adam will be opening for the 2010 SuBo Tour.

This is Adam’s father’s comment.
‘Yes, our Icarus may have gotten a little toasty last night, but his willingness to leap toward the sun is what thrills us about him. Chill, hand-wringers. Our boy is gluing those glittery feathers on even more tightly, getting ready for that next bold leap.’ 

This is great.

Adam has the most amazing parents. They are inspirational. It is so difficult to allow your children to be who and what they want to be – especially if what they want is not mainstream.

He was off vocally, but still, there is no getting around his immense talent and he will have time to shine this week at other televised performances.

But none of them will have near the viewership of the AMA’s.

I still say, as per my comment last night, that this was simply a missed opportunity when it could have been edgy but showcased the vocals more. Lest I get lumped in as a “hater” when I am not, at all. He’ll pick up and move on and I’m sure do fine, I just think that the night before your big album drop would’ve been better served with something a little less polarizing to potential album buyers.

So sad that he chooses the shock instead of relying on his talent. Yes , I believe that he is talented but I saw no talent in his performance. Frankly the whole thing was a freak show . He could be a super star but with these types of choices he won’t be. His shock value shows will wear thin very fast. Too bad .

almost 24 hours after his performance, and Adam is still trending on twitter. And it’s not like there is some wave of “lets get something trending”…. people are just talking and a lot of it is positive. Its gonna be very interesting watching the rest of this week play out. As much as I hated his ama performance, I want so badly for him to be successful. His album deserves to be heard.

He was off vocally, but still, there is no getting around his immense talent and he will have time to shine this week at other televised performances.

But none of them will have near the viewership of the AMA’s.

Yes, but not everyone hated the AMA performance. The media responses have been split. I know there is alot of Adam hate on this board, but outside the bubble, the reactions are mixed.

Also, (and I can’t believe I’m saying this) but kudos to Perez for pimping Adam’s album on his site. I’m sure there was money paid, but still. We don’t know how things will shake down until they shake down.

Does anyone have the link to the radio adds?

FYE wasn’t a hit, so why are you assuming other songs are going to be? If you think Adam doesn’t need singles go ahead and think that, but I’m going to continue to think that without hit songs his album will be a one week wonder.

I don’t know what RCA has been doing up to now but they need to take a song like WWFM and promote it to radio, get it radio play and turn it into a hit. Personally I think that song could be a hit but they need to start doing things the way everyone else does them.

For all you DC folks out there… tonight while driving to the store, I finally heard LLWD on hot 99.5. THat is the first Season 8 contestant’s song I’ve heard on any DC metro area station (other than a couple spins of NOBO right after the finale). They were talking about Adam all day, but then never played him. Hoping we will hear WWFM after the rest of this week’s publicity tour plays out.

Has anyone else out there in the DC area heard FYE or WWFM on radio here, and if so, what station?

I don’t know what RCA has been doing up to now but they need to take a song like WWFM and promote it to radio, get it radio play and turn it into a hit. Personally I think that song could be a hit but they need to start doing things the way everyone else does them.

Exactly. I am not saying that Adam will fail, all I am saying is he needs a hit song. Pop singers need popular songs. It isn’t rocket science.

Has sad as it is do you really think its about the kids.Do you think any straight guy is going to see hin now?

steve: Your opinion before and after the AMAs has been pretty consistent so I’m assuming you are a straight guy who wasn’t going to see him anyway.

No i bought TOMT and MW but i knew adam would never put any song like that on his album.TOMT and allison’s sing out of cry baby were 2 of my top 5 idol moments ever.

3,300 new twitter followers and yes’ ¦I appreciate that it doesn’t mean to say they will buy his album.

When are they goimg to buy his music? or can it be the same people buying 5-6 copies of his album.The numbers don’t match and they never will.

There are recording artists with *millions* of Twitter followers who don’t sell close to millions of albums. Two explanations — illegal downloading. And Twitter is a *very* strange phenomenon.

Billboard was on point about Adam’s performance.

For all you DC folks out there’ ¦ tonight while driving to the store, I finally heard LLWD on hot 99.5. THat is the first Season 8 contestant’s song I’ve heard on any DC metro area station (other than a couple spins of NOBO right after the finale).

Wow, really? That channel never played David Cook’s stuff, so good for Kris! I might even listen past their admittedly kinda funny morning show if they are playing LLWD. That’s awesome.

I *think* heard LLWD on… 92.5? Maybe? It might have been 107.3. I can’t remember.

If my sister’s boyfriend starts his DJ gig with 94.7, I’d think he’d spin WWFM. He thinks that’s the best song ever (and thinks FYE was a poor choice for a leadoff single), he absolutely loves it. He thinks it will be a huge hit. I don’t know when he starts… apparently they don’t have on air DJs or whatever but it’s a mix tape? I don’t know the ins and outs of radio DJ business. I just know where he spins, lol (currently 95.5).

OMG – Leno is talking about the performance in his monlogue. It’s nothing new… but people are talking… Now they just showed a replay, with Leno dressed as the keyboard player, lol….

steve: No i bought TOMT and MW but i knew adam would never put any song like that on his album.

Have you heard the song Broken Open on Adam’s album? Very different from the other songs and has a Mad World vibe.

No i bought TOMT and MW but i knew adam would never put any song like that on his album.

Steve, there might be a couple songs you like on Adam’s album… from the Idol stuff I have Mad World, Feeling Good & Ring of Fire. On his album I downloaded Whataya Want From Me, A Loaded Smile, Sleepwalker, and Broken Open. Not sure if your musical tastes are anything like mine but I really like all four songs, particularly Broken Open.

LOL, HappyDaisy, we had the same idea. I think Broken Open definitely has the Mad World vibe – haunting.

See above post. I should have said, ‘inside the AI bubble.’ 

he’s not that even in the AI bubble. do people forgot about Clay?

do people forgot about Clay?

Clay who?

Speaking of vocals – listening to my iPod now and his studio version of “If I Can’t Have You” just came on. The notes he hits are ridiculous. And I realized I failed to list that I also have that Idol song on my iPod, heh, so add that to my Idol-Adam-tunes that I have.

Clay who?

Second season runner up who got the biggest idol fanbase and sell the most in his debut week. Back in the day he’s quite popular.

I’d say Chris broke outside the AI bubble the most, followed by Clay and Ruben.

I get annoyed at the whole Best Idol EVAH thing before he puts out music’ ¦ but I am the first to acknowledge that his voice is stellar and he *potentially* could be huge.

ITA- yes the best idol ever stuff is annoying. How can one be the best when they are all so different? I will have so say, lots of talented people have come off AI.

Well, spent most of the day at work lurking on MJs when I wouldn’t get caught!…I, for one, as I said last night, thought it was more a problem on the sound mixing and as Adam called it “a little pitchey”on his vocals. He just looked not like Adam last night…I have not missed any of his performances since auditions and saw several tours. I never saw the looks I saw on his face last night. Maybe sitting for 3 hours watching all the seasoned known names performing and an audience full of stars, dunno. But, he will pick it up and this is far from over…it truly is a “Time for Miracles” now. I love all his album …but, gotta tell you I play Pick U Up over and over…those vocals and that run with no breath after lovvvvvvvvvvvver!!!! and the giggle at the end..Awesome! the picture that is by Music Again on the Deluxe is just so beautiful…A perfect face…chills me to look at it!
Also, my hubby could tell I was more than upset and worried for Adam’s career after last night, he stayed up till 1:45 am downloading all the
Deluxe album from ITunes to our new Imac….and loaded my ipod to take to work….Hubby wasn’t shocked at all….said Adam can sing a whole lot better than last night/but, he’ll bounce back…said he has seen a whole lot worse in rock concerts in the late 70′s and 80′s…
I feel better and looking forward to more adventures with Adam.
It’s been quite a ride and this girl is staying on the Adam train!!!

After reading all the comments I had to see it for myself. It was even screechier and more vulgar than I thought it would be. I remember once on idol Simon scolded Ryan for a comment he made reminding Ryan that “it is a family show”. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. ok.

IMO, I think the reason “non-fans” of Adam would be interested in his sales is because this isn’t an fan blog. It’s an American Idol blog. A lot of the posters here are bigger fans of the show then they are of any one idol. They (and I include myself in “they”) find all of the number discussions interesting and like all of the analysis and don’t take the whole fandom thing very seriously. It’s possible to be a fan and still recognize when things don’t go well, or as planned. It’s the process that’s interesting. Again, JMO.

jersey
11/23/2009 at 10:36 pm
IMO, I think the reason ‘non-fans’  of Adam would be interested in his sales is because this isn’t an fan blog. It’s an American Idol blog. A lot of the posters here are bigger fans of the show then they are of any one idol. They (and I include myself in ‘they’ ) find all of the number discussions interesting and like all of the analysis and don’t take the whole fandom thing very seriously. It’s possible to be a fan and still recognize when things don’t go well, or as planned. It’s the process that’s interesting. Again, JMO.

Ditto.

I don’t know what RCA has been doing up to now but they need to take a song like WWFM and promote it to radio, get it radio play and turn it into a hit. Personally I think that song could be a hit but they need to start doing things the way everyone else does them.

Yes – ITA that RCA has done all sorts of weird stuff with Adam’s roll out. Whether the AMA gig or TFM or whatever messed up the original plan, whether WWFM was the original plan, who knows, but so far very little attention has been placed on radio, and I don’t understand why. Hopefully more will start (like radio interviews – think he has some of those lined up)

Excellent post, jersey.

Weighing in here, finally. I love Adam. I still love Adam, even after last night. I’ll still pimp his music to everyone I know who is a music fan, because FYE is a really fun fabulous ride. And last night was not great. Pitchy, too over the top, unnecessary shock and awe and he looked angry. It wasn’t tongue and cheek, campy fun, it was aggressive. Maybe it was because he was nervous. I don’t know.

I’m sad that he lost fans because he could not reign it in a little bit. Surely he has ripped the American Idol mantle from his body and set it afire with that performance. Unfortunately the vocals were a mess, so it’s not like he gained fans with his singing while he lost others by simulating a blow job onstage in front of MILLIONS of people. Oh Adam…..

I am not bothered by the kiss, or the men on leashes or the fact that he lost his footing. He managed to save that moment, IMO. It was the crotch grab at the woman on the pole and the simulated bj and the aggressiveness that saddened me, because I knew how many people were going to be turned off by that, NOT turned on.

The fact that the vocals were not great could not save him either.

However, I understand that he is OK with losing some fans. OK then. And he is all people are talking about today. My aunt texted me today and basically said that she loved it. She is an actress and appreciated the performance art of it and thought that even though vocally he wasn’t at his best, that he was brilliant and knew how to get people talking.

I really really really pray that this does not hurt album sales. I really hope he doesn’t do anything else like that on national TV again. And I still really love him. And that is my opinion.

Yes ‘“ ITA that RCA has done all sorts of weird stuff with Adam’s roll out. Whether the AMA gig or TFM or whatever messed up the original plan, whether WWFM was the original plan, who knows, but so far very little attention has been placed on radio, and I don’t understand why. Hopefully more will start (like radio interviews ‘“ think he has some of those lined up)

Officially RCA has said it is because Adam is a visual artist and they want to use visual media to promote him. IMO Probalby it is because Adam is openly gay they did not want to depend on US radio which has never supported a gay artist and is very tightly controlled.

Yes ‘“ ITA that RCA has done all sorts of weird stuff with Adam’s roll out. Whether the AMA gig or TFM or whatever messed up the original plan, whether WWFM was the original plan, who knows, but so far very little attention has been placed on radio, and I don’t understand why. Hopefully more will start (like radio interviews ‘“ think he has some of those lined up)

Having a song in the soundtrack of one of the biggest movie release or getting an artist to perform on the AMA’s is not strange. It’s just excellent promo.

Putting a song for adds, filming a video clip, using it for his biggest promo event and then dropping it for another song, that’s weird.

Putting a song for adds, filming a video clip, using it for his biggest promo event and then dropping it for another song, that’s weird.

So what is going to happen to the video? It’s no doubt a lot raunchier than what last night was. Are they going to sell it to some x-rated channel? If FYE isn’t going to be added or promoted to radio, whatever was the point of making it?

Wait. Who in the hell said they’re dropping FYE? It’s only been out a little over 2 weeks. For Pete’s sake. All I read on this blog about Kris’ single (which has been out for 2 months) is that “it’s a slow burner.” Less than 100k sales are fine for him, so give FYE a chance to do whatever its supposed to do.

So what is going to happen to the video? It’s no doubt a lot raunchier than what last night was. Are they going to sell it to some x-rated channel? If FYE isn’t going to be added or promoted to radio, whatever was the point of making it?

I’ve been wondering the same thing, maybe they will edit the video a bit? Or maybe not. If it’s considered too racy for stuff like VH1 and other popular venues it’s not gonna be seen.

Actually the FYE song kind of grew on me and it might sell if more people heard it, but it’s probably dust at this point although I don’t have a crystal ball so I could be wrong.

We shall see! I hope something works for Adam because his voice needs to be heard, antics aside.

Nobody’s gonna drop FYE. Did you notice that everyone on the internet who reviewed the AMA’s must mention Adam? The curiousity will be enough alone to get that song airplay now.

Wait. Who in the hell said they’re dropping FYE? It’s only been out a little over 2 weeks

Its spins are dropping on radio, and have been the last couple days. The AMAs were supposed to stop it but they didn’t. Also, its release date was October 30th, so it has been over three weeks. WWFM is adding spins on radio. Adam will be playing WWFM at his appearances. FYE is done, accept it.

Well we’ll see what Adam has to say about it tomorrow in his radio interview.

Wait. Who in the hell said they’re dropping FYE? It’s only been out a little over 2 weeks. For Pete’s sake. All I read on this blog about Kris’ single (which has been out for 2 months) is that ‘it’s a slow burner.’  Less than 100k sales are fine for him, so give FYE a chance to do whatever its supposed to do.

I’m not the only one making suppositions, I actually prefer FYE to WYWFM (even tough there are several other songs I would take over these two on his album) but there are a lot of non-Adam but also Adam fans who are talking about this.
The fact that he is performing WWFM on Letterman, that it is getting some radio adds in very important stations and that FYE has been a fiasco in getting radio airplay all seem to indicate that they are dropping FYE in favor of WYWFM. There’s even been some fans arguing that it was the plan from the beginning (altough I don’t know how filming a video clip for FYE enter in those plans).

Maybee I’m wrong to make this assumption, but it seems like a possible scenario to me.

Any news regarding Letterman performance?

“Nobody’s gonna drop FYE. Did you notice that everyone on the internet who reviewed the AMA’s must mention Adam? The curiousity will be enough alone to get that song airplay now.”

Adam’s has two versions of FYE at 65 and 66 s on the overall ITUNES chart. Plus WWFM and Rabbit Hole are now 163 and 196.

Adam has 14 songs in the top 200 pop singles ranging from 34 to 160.

So there is movement. Let’s see what happens when the radio promotion, Letterman etc., happens.

And of course Subo has 9 songs in the top 200 pop chart!

Back from my delightfully Adam drama free day. Just a thought about FYE, the single. I’m sure they were hoping they could run it up the charts. It doesn’t appear to be happening. Likely due a good bit because of radio resistance to the double edge meaning sung by a gay man causing a bit of consternation. I also don’t think they necessarily expected to be successful. But that song is perfect for a vid. And the video could give the track the exposure it needs to sell. I’m pretty sure that if they want to use the video as a marketing tool they either made it safe for VH-1 or they have and alternative way they plan to get to their audience.
So, yes, I think for radio they’ve moved on. But I don’t think they’ve given up pursuing sales of the title track…or at least sales of the video itself which would probably sell like hot cakes.

What about the FYE video? Dont can the song yet, I want to see the video darn it!!!

Its spins are dropping on radio, and have been the last couple days.

So what. Give it time. No one here is the ear of the RCA execs. It’s all just fan-guessing based on info garnered from following boards like this one.

Adam has 14 songs in the top 200 pop singles ranging from 34 to 160.

Good for Adam!

Adam and his band recorded David Letterman today and it’s airing on Wednesday.

today was great.yeah there was a bunch of AMA shitbut I’ve been waiting for this album for months and live it.
btw I’m still looking for lyrics for down the rabbit hole

GOODNIGHT GUYS

Thank Heavens for the last few posts that have positive Karma, you guys rock! Feels so much better than doom, gloom, end of career yadda yadda yadda.

Any news regarding Letterman performance?

People who were there said he sounded great – emo hair. No interview.

Is he on Letterman tonight?

What about the FYE video? Dont can the song yet, I want to see the video darn it!!!

Me too, I still think the angry, mean look on Adam’s face last night was totally out of character, beyond his usual “fierce” look so I am inclined to think he just had too much going on personally and professionally and his nerves got the best of him… I would like to see the video for comparison’s sake as well as curiosity.

If he had approached last night with more of a wink and a grin it would not have seemed so harsh. He did not look like he was having fun at any point and I’m hoping the video gives off a better vibe.

also on the whole FYE thing…I think that this song and what it now represents is more geared toward controversy and notoriety for Adam which is something he sort of had but no to the extent he does now…
as far as radio play..idk he said himself its more a club-type song even though it would fit very well among the big radio hits…guess we shall have to see after the video debts and all of that…

Adam wins an award — sort of:

MOST POLARIZING MELISMA
Adam Lambert’s closing performance of “For Your Entertainment” was either a highlight or low point for many viewers. Critics seem to agree that the single isn’t one of the better numbers off his about-to-be-released album, but it did afford the Idol runner-up the chance to pull off a very high-pitched run of melismatic notes at the end. Whether he should just because he could is another matter.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/awards/16339/taylor-swift-triumphs-in-absentia-and-other-amas-bests-and-worsts/

The last sentence is kind of one of the reasons that I have problems with Adam’s artistry. It’s partly about skill and partly about choices and he often makes bad choices vocally (to me) even if he is showing great skill. Wish he would learn to rein it in.

Night all, I’m going to go watch my slutty guilty pleasure, Gossip Girl which I DVR’ed earlier tonight. AMA isn’t the only oversexed show on television, Gossip Girl is way worse!

IMO People will continue to buy Adam’s album because it is a good album.

And in the absence of hearing his songs on the radio they will know (1) that Adam Lambert exists, (2) he has a record and (3) it’s “good” how exactly?

IMO People will continue to buy Adam’s album because it is a good album.

And in the absence of hearing his songs on the radio they will know (1) that Adam Lambert exists, (2) he has a record and (3) it’s ‘good’  how exactly?

Promo is starting this week. I believe tomorrow morning? So let’s see what happens then.

Is he on Letterman tonight, Wed. or Thurs., I am confused.

Is he on Letterman tonight, Wed. or Thurs., I am confused.

I believe Wednesday, which is a good night since most people have the next day (Thanksgiving) off and are more likely to stay up later.

Is he on Letterman tonight, Wed. or Thurs., I am confused.

They taped the show today though it does not air until Wed night.

Good Morning America & Late Show with David Letterman 11.25.09

The Ellen DeGeneres Show 12.1.09

Sorry already been answered re Letterman.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I’m going to bed, two nights of sleep and stay up late Wed. for the man. That and cooking, cleaning etc., we host Thanksgiving, so Wed. is good night to bu pumped up.

Adam now has 15 songs in the pop ITUNES chart, ranging from #32 to 198. So, I am assuming people are buying tracks off his album. There are 2 FYE’s at 32 and 35, so the other 13 songs are starting to move up. Down the Rabbit Hole is next closest at 72.

Yippee, undercooked, what a perfect time for great news. Sweet dreams of Adam taking over ITUNES!!

Its spins are dropping on radio, and have been the last couple days. The AMAs were supposed to stop it but they didn’t. Also, its release date was October 30th, so it has been over three weeks. WWFM is adding spins on radio. Adam will be playing WWFM at his appearances. FYE is done, accept it.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Blasphemy. You speak it.

I finally listened to the super-duper-special-more-expensive Adam CD and it has some amazing songs on it. He has enough songs that are radio ready that if they do get radio play, people will buy the album or at least download several singles.

The other “club” tracks (as Adam likes to call them) will be hot in the clubs and I wouldn’t be surprised if remixes start showing up on iTunes any day. I think there are enough of the club tracks that CD’s will be downloaded from that crowd.

It really doesn’t matter what any of us think or predict. Only time will tell.

undercooked
11/24/2009 at 12:25 am
Adam now has 15 songs in the pop ITUNES chart, ranging from #32 to 198. So, I am assuming people are buying tracks off his album. There are 2 FYE’s at 32 and 35, so the other 13 songs are starting to move up. Down the Rabbit Hole is next closest at 72.

When I first read this I had to do a double take..I was like whattttt?

So I went and counted and sure enough, that is the case…Crazy..Lady Gaga has 23 songs listed, so between her and Adam they have 38 of the top 200 spots…that is somethin!

Also, its release date was October 30th, so it has been over three weeks.

It went for sale on November 4. But, I’m sure you’re right. About everything.

In other news, I loved this article:

E!Online

Glad to see we are back to talking about the music. Just listened to Down the Rabbit Hole – will need to listen again to decide about it but right now Fever and SFW are still favs with Music Again and Pick U Up following along – from the Dance numbers. The ballads are a wash – like them all for different reasons.

Will be interesting to see how he does WWFM on Letterman – my guess is pretty straight up. There will be none of those AMA shennigans in Dave’s house

Ugh. I’m reading meta discussion about the thread and fan groups and it’s pissing me off

Top 200 Pop: 15 tracks
Top 100 Pop: 5

Top 200 Overall: 4
Top 100 Overall: 2

i’ve seen in amazon that adam is #1 in mp3 downloads.

I was so upset last night after the performance, not because of the sexuality (love that all day long), but because the vocals were bad. I was so worried about Adam’s career afterwords I had to take TWO ambiensl!
Adam, we (your loving loyal fans) will always love you and are willing to be taken to a place we have never been before, and will promote you to anyone and everyone we know, but…please please hit the notes. Come on love, we care so much about you and want to buy your albums for years to come so if you have to *sadly* tone it down a notch for a little while and appease mainstream america please do it. We want to be entertained forever!! The ends justify the means

To get a perspective of how Adam’s songs ranked in itunes:

POP:
#32 For Your Entertainment
#36 For Your Entertainment
#73 Down The Rabbit Hole
#80 Whataya Want From Me
#87 Master Plan
#115 Sleepwalker
#122 Soaked
#124 Broken Open
#127 If I Had You
#128 Time For Miracles
#147 Fever
#153 Time For Miracles
#154 Music Again
#158 Strut
#199 Aftermath

OVERALL
#62 For Your Entertainment
#66 For Your Entertainment
#162 Down the Rabbit Hole
#192 Whadaya Want From Me

Did anybody else notice that Adam’s voice got a lot stronger after he kissed Tommy? I wish he had kissed him at the beginning of the song, but better late than never.

In other news, I loved this article:

E!Online

LOVED LOVED that article – an intelligent and thoughtful deconstruction of rock and roll and sex and Adam…

mj said:

Ugh. I’m reading meta discussion about the thread and fan groups and it’s pissing me off

I apologize, mj. I’m 100% sure it’s my fault, but I have NO idea what you just said. Lol.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b155156_its_sexy_job_adam_lamberts_gotta_do_it.html

This was an amazing article!

Together, Lambert’s offenses are nothing less than the work of a rock star in his tight-pants prime. Can you imagine how hard it must have been to work the townfolk into a huff only weeks after the nation re-lost its innocence to the Gossip Girl threesome?

Gossip Girl had a guy on guy kiss! And it comes on at 8:00!

Ultimately, Lambert was doing what he was supposed to do, and, if it was displeasing that a child somewhere saw him do it in prime time, then somebody’s bedtime needs to be moved up. (The show-closing number didn’t air until almost 11 p.m. ET/PT.)

ITA!

This was in the comment section:

“So Madonna can hump the floor and suck a water bottle, Christina can show her butt cheeks, on TV they have men kissing men (Supernatural) and women kissing women (Desperate Housewives) and yes Janet Jackson within the first 5 minutes of the show grabbed her crotch multiple times and her male back up dancer and then pushed him over to have some other kind of “Simulated butt play”.”

“Michael Jackson’s crotch grab and gyrations. Janet Jackson’s “If” video and AMA performance back when “If” came out featured a male dancer on his knees, at her crotch level, being tossed back and forth, as she gyrated. Madonna, and a full on crotch grab, and making out with her dancers on stage. Lady Gaga crawling around on stage with explicit acts of violence. Rhianna wearing little black cups over her boobies. These are all acts that have aired on broadcast television in the past few decades that have gotten less flack than Adam Lambert’s display. The only difference: Adam is openly gay. “

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b155156_its_sexy_job_adam_lamberts_gotta_do_it.html

This was an amazing article!

Agreed it was and as I glanced through the comment section noticed that the MAJORITY of people agreed with it. There were a few negative comments, but generally supportive and congratulatory. Maybe the tide has turned a bit – I know I was more genuinely a-taken-a-back by how upset and vicious people were than by anything I saw in the performance…

I loved that article. The only thing that bothered me where his vocals weren’t real strong and his fall. Seriously, doesn’t anyone watch the shows anymore?? That’s what the female stars are doing (I know not all but alot of them). I think the outrage is because Adam is a man and we aren’t used to seeing men do that on stage. OMG…I remember thinking “I can’t believe he just did that” after ROF. To me, his performance just went along with what others did. He just took it a little further.

Can’t wait to see him Weds morning.

Dlisted: For Your Taintertainment

Awesomely bitchy.

today Adam is doing the Elvis duran show it is streaming live

wen is the gma show?

any word about how it went when he taped letterman?

well someone mentioned that letterman gig was great. he got the emo hair and sang Wat ya want frm me, he even sing closely to tommy and then the audience wer isntructed not to shout coz they may ruin their sound system, but some cant help it they still screamed. then letteramn introduce adam while holding his cd. dats it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if remixes start showing up on iTunes any day.

Maybe a stupid question…what is a remix?

Q3
11/23/2009 at 10:47 pm
Officially RCA has said it is because Adam is a visual artist and they want to use visual media to promote him. IMO Probalby it is because Adam is openly gay they did not want to depend on US radio which has never supported a gay artist and is very tightly controlled.

US radio has never supported a gay artist? Tell that to Elton John. To Melissa Etheridge. To Michael Stipe of R.E.M.

Adam was his usual precious, adorable self on Elvis Duran this morning. Still saying he got “caught up in the moment” , etc. during the ama performance and Tommy didn’t know what was coming. They played a bit of Fever and all of WWFM. They said a recording of the interview will be up on their site later. Listen, because it was fun!

US radio has never supported a gay artist? Tell that to Elton John. To Melissa Etheridge. To Michael Stipe of R.E.M.

elton john was years and years into a successful career before he publicly came out; michael stipe there were rumors about but not really public until well after REM had achieved success…i’ll give you melissa etheridge

US radio has never supported a gay artist? Tell that to Elton John. To Melissa Etheridge. To Michael Stipe of R.E.M.

I’d add the new judge on the biggest audience of all age groups show on TV. I don’t think Ellen’s viewership has any complaints about her openly gay lifestyle and I doubt AI’s viewership will go down due to her being the new judge either.

So what is going to happen to the video? It’s no doubt a lot raunchier than what last night was. Are they going to sell it to some x-rated channel? If FYE isn’t going to be added or promoted to radio, whatever was the point of making it?

Big stations in Canada seem to be playing FYE — or they’ve added it at least. And I suspect that it’ll go over better in other countries. They can keep the video mostly on ice until they go for more international rollouts. I suspect Japan would like the video, and so on. …. They can put it up on the Internet to become a viral phenomenon. …. Etc. …. Lots of things you can do with a video that may get you extra pr these days.

Here is the interview — It is GREAT!!

http://www.mr-l.org/adam-lambert-on-elvis-duran-radio-show-112409-audio/

Maybe a stupid question’ ¦what is a remix?

Not stupid at all — just shows you don’t frequent many dance clubs!

When somebody, often a dj-type, takes a song’s vocal and puts a different backing track and beats behind it, that’s a remix. Most of them these days turn a song into a dance track, but any time you take one or more tracks of a song and mix them with some different tracks that weren’t part of the original version, it’s a remix.

I know I was more genuinely a-taken-a-back by how upset and vicious people were than by anything I saw in the performance’ ¦

Me too. In fact I thought the performance was great (aside from the sound issues & a few vocal missteps). I was completely entertained for the first time all night. I thought he stole the show!

Then I went on-line and couldn’t believe my eyes. Someone earlier said he/she had to take 2 ambiens. Well I should have because I hardly slept all night. Things are looking much brighter today.

I do think Adam miscalculated. From many things he’s said he apparently has felt restricted in his performances from the beginning of his career. He could never do everything he wanted and let it all fly. So I do think he got a bit carried away. For me it was awesome. For many others, apparently not. lol

elton john was years and years into a successful career before he publicly came out; michael stipe there were rumors about but not really public until well after REM had achieved success’ ¦i’ll give you melissa etheridge

And Melissa had some kick ass songs that she didn’t need to simulate sex on stage to sell. As a gay woman she could have gone that route in her youth and men would have been tripping over themselves to see it. But she didn’t.

Look, I know that sex sells. But there are different kinds sexiness. From the outset Adam has said that he didn’t want to “be political”, that he just wanted to “make people dance” and “feel sexy”. He said that he just wanted to be himself. And people, mainly women, ate that up. We find him sexy without all the lewd and crude acts so why put it in there other than for shock value? He said “numbers shmumbers” as if this whole production wasn’t about selling songs and albums, as if getting the closing number on the AMAs wasn’t a huge honor, as if he doesn’t need fans to buy his album so he can pay his his bills.

Adam spoke about having an identity crisis while making the album. And I can certainly see why. There was no joy on that stage. Only agression. The opposite of dancing and feeling sexy. I compare Crawl Through Fire at the Zodiac Show and his AMA production and you can see the difference in his attitude. There was joy in the Zodiac show–you could feel his anticipation for the next move and next step. And it was overt and sexual and yet campy and fun. The AMA show was not campy and fun at all. Many people liked that he pushed the envelope but not because it made them feel sexy but for every political statement that it made.

At the Zodiac audience loved and craved the OTT as a matter of course. It’s who they were, it’s what they did. There were no political ramifications. Only fun and dancing. The AMAs is/was not like that. It turned into a brouhaha of if women can do that why can’t a gay man? It turned into professional jealousy and rivalry (from certain former idols via their tweets), it turned into numbers shmumbers and flipping off the audience.

How is any of that “joyful or sexy”? The very things that made Adam popular to begin with?

US radio has never supported a gay artist? Tell that to Elton John. To Melissa Etheridge. To Michael Stipe of R.E.M.

I’d add the new judge on the biggest audience of all age groups show on TV. I don’t think Ellen’s viewership has any complaints about her openly gay lifestyle and I doubt AI’s viewership will go down due to her being the new judge either

And Melissa had some kick ass songs that she didn’t need to simulate sex on stage to sell. As a gay woman she could have gone that route in her youth and men would have been tripping over themselves to see it. But she didn’t

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First off, NONE of those artisists were openly and flamboyantly gay/lesbian when they ENTERED the music/entertainment industry mainstream. If they had been, their big-time music/entertainment careers would have probably been cut off at the knees! Also, many people’s options are based on what they’re “working with”. Adam has not ONLY his talent working for him, but mainstream/conventional attractiveness and sexiness that appeals to BOTH men and women (and gay and straight), his youth, and an uncanny resemblance to the original “white lightening” rock-n-roller, Elvis Presly! And we all know what impact his looks and gyrating pelvis had on groins and popular (and social) culture in his day.

When I look at Elton John or Michael Stipe, I’d rather just listen to the music instead and feast my eyes on something else. And had Melissa Ethridge looked more like “Baywatch” Pamela Anderson than say…oh…um…Melissa Ethridge!, then “she COULD have gone that route in her youth and men would have been tripping over themselves to see it”. But I suspect that “she didn’t”, because that really wasn’t a viable option for her. As for Ellen, when Ellen DeGeneres had her TV show “Ellen”, she was riding the high wave of her popularity, her talent and her looks. However, as SOON as she “came out” (via her TV character)…HER SHOW WAS CANCELLED!!! Popularity, talent and looks didn’t matter one bit. She was GAY and it was decided that THE GAY HAD TO GO!!! Fortunately for Adam, culture has changed and sensibilites have been sensitized and he gets to reap the rewards of all the hard work of previous gays/lesbians in the entertainment industry. Good for him (and ultimately us all)! I hope it works out for him the way he and his most ardent supporters imagined it would…and then some!

BTW, I have the Adam’s “FYE” album and I LOVE IT! I’m glad he’s going with the song Pink wrote for him for his 2nd single. It adds depth to his persona. He can’t be all glitter and glam! Would LOOOVE to see a visual (performance, video, etc.) of “Broken Pieces”! It’s SOOO cosmically ethereal! I LOVE IT!!!