The plot thickens.

One thing is clear. Danny Gokey is not connected in any way to Danny Gokey Gear, run by a fan selling “Designer Eyewear Worn by Danny Gokey on American Idol”, in partnership with FramesDirect.com, with a portion of the proceeds supposedly going to Danny’s charity, Sophia’s Heart Foundation.

And in fact, Danny Gokey twittered, just a few hours after MTV ran a story about Gokey gear, calling it a scam, “Many companies r claiming 2 partner w/ Sophiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Heart (clothes, eyewear, ect). They r all SCAMS. We have not seen 1 penny nor been contacted.”

Well, not so fast.   MTV got back in touch with Joe Monaghan, the fan in question, who sent MTV a copy of an email he sent to Sophia’s Heart.   Also, the donation system at SHF is down, so those wanting to make a donation, couldn’t anyway.

“It really aches to hear him say that. We have made contact with SHF … it seems he has ignored that e-mail,” Monaghan wrote in an e-mail. “Also, their donation system is down. I attempted a donation this evening and the system replied that ‘An Error Occurred’ And ‘An Email has been sent to our team about this issue.’ So, I guess we will have to wait until they fix it to make our donation.”

Monaghan also sent MTV News an e-nmail he received from the Sophia’s Heart Foundation à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  dated May 28 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  which seems to back up his claims that he had contacted the charity.

“Thank you for your support and interest in Sophia’s Heart Foundation. Your desire to help out the foundation is greatly appreciated,” the e-mail reads. “We are excited about our future. Together, we can touch the lives of countless children, youth and families.”

Of course, a legitimate business organization with plans to split sales proceeds with a charity wouldn’t be using a freaking donation button on a website to do it.

There’s a hornets nest of issues going on here.   Monaghan should never have gone ahead with his venture without having all of his ducks in a row.   From the misleading advertising on the FramesDirect.com site, to proceeding without a proper partnership with SHF, this was a project made of total FAIL.

But there’s plenty of blame to go around.   Danny, clearly a newbie at running a foundation, doesn’t seem to have a handle on his business.   His stint on Idol put a very bright spotlight on SFH.   Either he reacted before he had his facts straight, or SHF is so disorganized and badly run, there’s no way to know the facts   Public displays of cluelessness and confusion are no way to get a fledling foundation off the ground…

 
  • snuffles

    I’m sure Danny’s intentions are good regarding his desire to have a foundation, but he CLEARLY doesn’t know jack about running one. It seems he’s only done the most bare bones requirements to get it up and running in order to take advantage of his time on Idol.

    But pretty soon, people will want to know exactly what he’s doing with that money (instead of just collecting it). And if he doesn’t get his sh!t together, the backlash is gonna get ugly.

    I personally think he’s biting off more than he can chew right now.

    ETA: And I say that as someone who bore witness to the ugly scandalous mess that was the early days of Clay’s Bubel/Aiken Foundation. And unlike Danny, Clay actually had the brains and the past experience to eventually work things out properly.

  • LaurelG

    I personally think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s biting off more than he can chew right now.

    I agree. He’s well-intentioned but he better act quickly to address this problem or he will have a PR disaster on his hands.

  • aek

    I personally think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s biting off more than he can chew right now.

    I would have to agree with this.

  • Barbariba

    As in many other things, Danny just doesn’t have a clue. He really needs to get it together.

  • lynniebird7

    edit: NO lecturing. NO fingerwagging. Read my guidelines

  • abbysee

    This sorta reminds me of the beginning of Clay’s foundation. Even before he had it set up, his fans were donating, sorta putting the cart before the horse. The deal this time is that it seems that nobody has a handle on how to do this legally and properly. Danny included. Get your act together dude. If this is Sophia’s legacy, and yours, you owe it to her not to screw it up.

  • snuffles

    I recall with Clay, that part of his senior thesis for college (that he completed in order to graduate on time) he put together a proposal for a creating a foundation. So Clay had already done the research. He mentioned it in an interview off hand and the next thing he new his fans were literally flinging checks at his feet (during the tour) donating to his foundation.

  • auntieaimee

    Monaghan also sent MTV News an e-nmail he received from the Sophiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Heart Foundation à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  dated May 28 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  which seems to back up his claims that he had contacted the charity.

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Thank you for your support and interest in Sophiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Heart Foundation. Your desire to help out the foundation is greatly appreciated,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the e-mail reads. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“We are excited about our future. Together, we can touch the lives of countless children, youth and families.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    That’s the guy’s “proof”? That looks like a canned email response to me.

  • sunchick

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s intentions are good regarding his desire to have a foundation, but he CLEARLY doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know jack about running one.

    This. Why doesn’t someone take him aside and tell him that he’d be better served contacting an established reputable charity that supports the causes he believes in and lending his celebrity status to help raise them some money? Kinda the way Cook and Archie are going about it. The whole “create a foundation” thing is coming off as a bit of an ego trip as well as a good intention because it’s so obvious that he’s out of his depth, YKWIM?

  • snuffles

    I don’t begrudge him wanting to start a Foundation in his wife’s honor, but a wise person would have taken more time to do the research for putting it together. And that includes seeking out some experienced people to help him set it up properly and run it.

    I honestly thing he was just so eager to get it out there that he just talked about it at every opportunity before he was really prepared. But that seems like typical Danny – talking before actually thinking.

  • msdog

    I suspect Danny is just in way over his head. When has he had time to research this and spend the time necessary to run the foundation? There has to be more than just excitement and desire to help children. There has to be solid management and executive skills to run the foundation.

  • loosegoose

    Sunchick, I agree–lending his name and celebrity to an established charity, maybe with a special scholarship in Sophia’s name or something like that, would have been a much better way for him to go.

    We keep coming back to the impression that he is completely clueless about almost everything. He has no grasp of the idea that anything challenging requires knowledge and work and time–not music, not showmanship, not dancing, not running a foundation.

    Not recognizing that setting up and running a charity requires skills (that he doesn’t have), he also apparently has not made any attempt to bring on board people who have the skills he lacks, or who can teach him. You want to start a charity (rather than funnel your efforts into an existing one)? Then find a fundraiser/development officer/executive type person to set it up and run it for you, and get it done RIGHT. He just seems oblivious to the fact that most things worth doing take skill and effort and knowledge.

    In some ways I appreciate that he’s probably well-intentioned and just in over his head; but this sort of thing has been going on for months now. At what point does he RECOGNIZE that he’s in over his head, and get some decent advisers to steer him through it? He still comes across as “oh, I can do this, it’s no big deal.” And at that point, I stop feeling sympathetic.

    He’s not a kid. He’s old enough to have knowledge of his own shortcomings or at the very least, recognize that he’s a beginner at charity and business stuff. Good grief. His name is becoming synonymous with “clueless.”

  • http://www.myspace.com/rjveritas MrRJ

    Danny, unless he signed some deal with the fansite has one heck of a lawsuit.

    There is really no excuse however for how over his head Danny is. I am sure some pretty astute folks would have contributed or discounted their time to have the charity in order as his notariety was rising. I doubt that he asked.

  • smartcookie

    Solid management, executive skills, a huge long form for the IRS showing you are non-profit and have charitable aims and goals and plans before you can collect a dime… Does he really think he can collect money without having concrete plans for what he’s going to do with that money?

    Cart before horse, indeed. I really think somebody slapped together a website while they were investigating how to set up this foundation, and it’s really not a foundation yet because Danny has been busy and hasn’t had time to get a lawyer and put together a board of directors and look for people to actually run and/or start this thing. If he wanted people to be able to give to his foundation the day he left Idol, he needed to have his foundation set up before he did Idol. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and legit foundations that can accept charitable contributons aren’t created overnight, either.

  • tinawina

    I think its easy to get carried away with this kind of thing. Non profits are more complicated than they look, and you need to approach it more like an actual business. People do this kind of thing all the time… get excited about an idea and run with it without knowing enough about what they are doing. Danny is not alone on that.

    I agree that email response might have been canned. So Danny might not have known he was contacted, because it could have been response-by-bot. I imagine he gets a billion emails a day now. Still, if you know that’s the system you’ve set up, you can’t go on record saying you’ve not been contacted until you actually read all the emails. Also not getting back to entities trying to donate to you, whether individuals or business like Frames Direct, is not a good look.

    I think both Danny and the fan had good intentions, but no one involved knew what the hell they were doing.

    Hopefully, Danny gets his crap together but quick. Learn your lesson, and learn it fast.

  • lucy

    I wonder whether part of the problem is that he still hasn’t had time even to digest the horrible emotional pain he must have suffered losing his wife like that.

    It’s almost like he’s initiated this huge flurry of activity partly to sublimate his grief and sort of avoid dealing with it. I know that’s psychobabble, but it kind of seems to me to fit.

    He seems in such a hurry to do a bunch of things, and I wonder whether the hurry isn’t because he’s running away from a lot of unacknowledged pain. When you’re just flailing around trying to distract yourself with good works and so on, you generally don’t think those would-be projects through all that clearly.

    I feel bad for him. Hope there aren’t any crappy repercussions from this.

  • sunkissedtrampoline

    Oh, god. I was just at Danny’s Comcast chat. It was so fucking epic.

    So many questions I never thought would get through were asked. It brought LOLz, Second-hand embarrassment, confusion, and rage.

    http://www.comcast.net/tv/eyeonidol/66318/idoltop10chat/

    If you want to experience a range of emotions go to the URL above and read the transcript.

  • lizzy12345

    Once again, the accusations are flying around without any proof of what is going on.

    I agree with the poster that you probably just have anxious fans wanting to donate before SHF is ready to accept these type of donations. Although the fans mean well they are putting the cart before the horse.

    Danny may not have had all the details when he tweeted. He is going to learn fast as we all are that “tweeting” can get you into trouble when you have 55,000 followers and not all are fans.

    Danny spent time after the show trying to get things in place to set up his foundation. He was hiring experienced people and looking for a building, etc.

    edit: Have you read my guidelines? You should. Stick to the subject. Don’t question posters motives. Don’t lecture, Dial back the defensiveness

  • lucy

    If you want to experience a range of emotions go to the URL above and read the transcript.

    What the heck is modern-soul-country music?

    And … whatever it is, it suddenly makes an R&B/Latin fusion album seem quite ordinary and doable.

  • AC

    I mentioned this in a separate thread but there was one thing that has now been deleted! There was a question for Danny about how he felt about Adam being gay which I’m assuming he passed on that question since it was not answered because it went to the next question instead.

  • sidewalkstory

    I think Danny was too cheap to hire the proper attorneys and accountants and promotional people. He probably set up the foundation and left the shell enterprise just sitting there.

    This is the guy who refused to spend anything over his clothing allowance. Even when he was urged by the stylist that he was getting down to the wire and now was the time for a little extravagance.

    This is the guy who, when his luggage was lost in NYC, shopped at H&M for clothing to appear on national TV. (Cripes, he could have at least gone to Macy’s.)

    Danny is so arrogant and full of himself that he is blinded.

  • lucy

    I think Danny was too cheap to hire the proper attorneys and accountants and promotional people. He probably set up the foundation and left the shell enterprise just sitting there.

    This is the guy who refused to spend anything over his clothing allowance. Even when he was urged by the stylist that he was getting down to the wire and now was the time for a little extravagance.

    This is the guy who, when his luggage was lost in NYC, shopped at H&M for clothing to appear on national TV. (Cripes, he could have at least gone to Macyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s.)

    Danny is so arrogant and full of himself that he is blinded.

    To me, the cheapness suggests more naivete than arrogance. He’s used to pinching pennies, and it doesn’t really occur to him that you may need to adopt a different style to really look good on television.

    I really don’t get arrogance out of it at all, actually. If I tried to set up a foundation, I would probably do a ton of stupid things as well, just out of confusion. You certainly can be stupid out of arrogance as well, of course, but to me he just seems out of his depth rather than really trying to be somebody he’s not.

    He’s mourning Sophia and he really really really wants to use his new fame, money, and potential career path to ensure that her name will live on and inspire good works — but the fact that that requires all sorts of legal and accounting stuff that he doesn’t know about probably goes right over the head of a still-grieving (only he doesn’t even realize that he is) ex-truck-driver and church singer.

  • tinawina

    Danny spent time after the show trying to get things in place to set up his foundation. He was hiring experienced people and looking for a building, etc.

    The thing is, you can’t set up a foundation in the 2 weeks you are home between idol gigs. It takes longer than that to find even one experienced staff person. And you can’t develop a vision statement, mission statement, and strategic plan in that time. Certainly not to the degree that you need to justify buying a building. What programs are you running that you need an entire building? What kind of facilities will be required for your programs? Are there any codes you will have to adhere in to in the process of serving you clientele? What kind of cash flow do you intend to maintain? How? Who’s providing the initial funding? Selling T-shirts will not cut it. This is not being mean to Danny, this is being realistic. He’s not ready to handle the volume of interest and inquiries that will come his way with the level of promotion he’s been doing for this charity. He is not going to have the luxury of working his bumps out on a small scale before he goes big. He is big. He needs to get his crap together much faster than this.

  • lizzy12345

    edit: Congrats. You’ve earned a spot in moderation!

  • sidewalkstory

    Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mourning Sophia

    How much mileage are we going to get out of this excuse?

  • brie200

    I read Danny’s Comcast chat and I’m not getting it. I certainly don’t agree with everything he says and the guy is clearly clueless on some issues, but there wasn’t anything inherently awful about it, or anything that makes me think Danny is an awful person. At some point making him the villian, no matter what comes out of his mouth, gets old.

    He does need to get this foundation stuff sorted out, but I do think it’s more that the guy is clearly in over his head (and as usual clueless about many things) than he is the evil.

    Unless I’m supposed to think he’s arrogant for choosing to buy clothes at H&M. Um what! Who cares if he wore H&M clothes on television.

  • sidewalkstory

    Danny is arrogant because he thinks he needs no one and can handle the foundation his way instead of using professionals.

  • tinawina

    Yeah, I’m not seeing the arrogance or bad guy thing. He’s just overwhelmed, trying to do too much at once. He needs to work this one out though.

  • brie200

    I’m not arguing whether or Danny may or may not be arrogant in other ways. I was just commenting on the remark that where he shops proves his arrogance. Or proves anything really. Nobody’s complaining about Kris’s cheapness when it comes to clothes or the like.

  • baxter

    It reminds of the hate for Sarah Palin – totally ridiculous and unwarranted.

    Not in my opinion…. :biggrin_wp:

    Danny has slapped this foundatin together with spit and duct tape and it seems very little forethought was involved, other than “I want to help the children” tag line he uses. He should have had this all in place prior to the start of Idol, not half assed it up until now. As many others have stated, a non/not for profit is not created overnight. WHo has he hired to run teh foundation while he is gone for the summer and longer if he does get a recording contract. He will not be around to run it. When you go to various interviews and repeatedly mention the website to your foundation, people are gunna listen and respond. Does he not freaking get that yet??? He wants to buy a building to house programs….what freaking programs??? I’m still waiting to find out who the hell is going to run said programs??

    I can deal with ignorant people for only so long. Ignorant to me is someone that doesn’t know any better or does not have the knowledge base to understand something. Danny is quickly moving into stupid. Stupid people know better or have the ability to obtain the knowledge they need but still do nothing about it.

  • crhsc

    From the Comcast interview:

    Danny Gokey: Yes. I accept gay people, but people have to accept my beliefs. We have to accept their beliefs, but they have to accept my beliefs. We agree to disagree. I don’t judge people, but at the same time, if they believe in what they believe, they have to accept me and what I believe. But I accept anybody as they come. That’s my character and my personality.

    Being gay is not a belief, Danny.

    “People have to accept my beliefs” — which are?

    I feel like Miss Teen South Carolina answered this question for him.

  • loosegoose

    edit: if you disagree, keep your remarks focused on your opinion. don’t criticize fellow posters

    Sorry, mj, I realized that and just tried to remove the comment (before seeing yours) and it didn’t work. (You probably beat me to it!)

  • dusty

    Not everyone is a planner personality type. Some people learn by doing. From what I have seen of Danny, he seems to be the kind that learns by doing. It may not be perfect, but it (the foundation) can still get done and have an impact.

    I saw/read? that someone donated $200k to his foundation so he has start up money.

    Clothing? My hunch is that Danny will learn fairly quickly to have a handful of outfits that are at the ready and that are his trademark apparel.

    Seems like there’s a scapegoat every season. Danny’s not my fav from season 8 but he seems to be doing the best he can with the talents he has. In business, the skill set needed to be the entrepreneur is not the same skill set that’s needed to manage a steadily growing and maturing business.

  • steve

    Being gay is not a belief, Danny.

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“People have to accept my beliefsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Maybe he thinks it is a belief.If he doesnt try and push it down anyone throat then whats the problem in his belief.

  • SpenserJ

    I agree with the poster that you probably just have anxious fans wanting to donate before SHF is ready to accept these type of donations. Although the fans mean well they are putting the cart before the horse.

    Well, in fairness, it was Danny who put the cart before the horse by setting up a web site, marketing his foundation, creating a donation button and not having the infrastructure to handle whatever may have come in.

    He should have hired a professional with experience in fundraising and non-profits BEFORE he started the PR on the existance of the foundation. If you blow it right out of the gate, you may never get a second chance.

    I still think the Danny Gokey Gear guy is a scam artist who was looking to profit off of Danny’s noteriety.

    And, Danny should always be wary of making deals with people who are just looking for their piece of the pie. Making a donation deal with an established corporation for a promotion is one thing – but he should never make any deals with some random stranger on the internet selling a product mostly for their own profit. Those guys just want to use Danny to line their own pockets and any donation they’ll make will be insignificant and not worth the hassle.

  • galaxygrrl

    Danny is a little clueless and over his head. But he will figure it out. Remember the guy drove a truck for a living. He does not have these skills. Welcome to the big time Danny. Get with the program and hire someone to help..

    It costs about 10k in legal fees to set up a non profit. I’ve set up a couple.

    I used to beat Danny up. But you know what. It’s clear he has a good heart, means well, and is over his head.

    Still don’t like him much, but wish him the best

  • cookcricket

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Thank you for your support and interest in Sophiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Heart Foundation. Your desire to help out the foundation is greatly appreciated,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the e-mail reads. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“We are excited about our future. Together, we can touch the lives of countless children, youth and families.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    This looks like a fairly generic email to me. Nothing in it directly refers any kind of specific collaboration. It almost seems as if people are in overdrive to make Danny look bad.

    Why didn’t this fan try some kind of direct contact before going to MTV to tell his side. :(

  • carolinacharms

    My honest take on this is that one should consider giving Danny the benefit of the doubt over some unknown entity. If Danny says he knows nothing about it, I’ll believe HIM unless proof to the contrary emerges. Afterall, fraud and scams do persist on the internet. It’s not that hard to imagine this kinda stuff happening. Do people truly believe Danny to be capable of fraudulent, criminal conduct?

  • Owl

    SHF must have received thousands of e-mails including people wanting to know about the foundation or how to donate but I bet there’s a huge amount that weren’t even for SHF but just of fans wanting to contact Danny. That e-mail that DannyGokeyGear.com received sounds like an automatic reply e-mail.

    SHF is still trying to reorganize and catch up with all the spotlight that Danny’s run on AI put on the foundation. They’re rebuilding the website, they’re still trying to find a building for the foundation, they’re still forming the administration board. They’re just in the beginning and they’ve been clear about it.

    Even if the DannyGokeyGear.com site tried to contact SHF through e-mail once and intended to donate somewhere in the future, they’re still wrong.

    You don’t go around using someone’s image to sell things without having permission to do so, thinking that they might like it because you’re allegedly donating a tiny bit of the money you’re doing. He should have waited for an answer before going ahead and selling t-shirts and glasses using Danny’s name. The moment they did that, they gave Danny every right to call it a scam. I’ve been to those sites before… it wasn’t clear that he wasn’t affiliated with Danny and that is misleading.

    What that site is doing isn’t charity. Promising to donate 10% of the proceedings to SHF? He’s still making money using Danny’s image. I’d only call that charity if he was donating 100% minus costs to SHF and if he had Danny’s blessing to do so in the first place.

  • KrazeeK120

    Holy crap…I would like to REITERATE my thankfulness to the idol gods that Danny Gokey did not make the top 2. What a ginormous PR disaster!! (And, uh, how did the producers not see this…he’s seriously just a big walking foot-in-mouth. Ugh.)

    I just can’t believe someone would try to start up a huge charity overnight. It really doesn’t take tons of common sense to know that it just doesn’t work like that.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/RemusL/ RemusL

    This is the guy who, when his luggage was lost in NYC, shopped at H&M for clothing to appear on national TV. (Cripes, he could have at least gone to Macyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s.)

    Danny is so arrogant and full of himself that he is blinded.

    How does NOT shopping at Macy’s make someone look arrogant and full of themselves? I would have thought it to be the other way around.

  • SpenserJ

    Even if the DannyGokeyGear.com site tried to contact SHF through e-mail once and intended to donate somewhere in the future, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re still wrong.

    Yes they are. And you can believe that the Gear guy’s motives are not altruistic. He’s trying to make a buck. I doubt he’s even a Danny fan. And, he probably doesn’t give a shit about SHF.

    SHF is still trying to reorganize and catch up with all the spotlight that Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s run on AI put on the foundation. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re rebuilding the website, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re still trying to find a building for the foundation, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re still forming the administration board. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just in the beginning and theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been clear about it.

    For me – that right there is Danny’s mistake. Danny shouldn’t have put up the website, or put the “spotlight” on his foundation until he was ready. You should definitely have your office space and your Board in place BEFORE you make your site live and have a donation button.

    That e-mail that DannyGokeyGear.com received sounds like an automatic reply e-mail.

    I’d agree it’s an auto response. Still after a week, apparently no one has responded to this e-mail. Who knows if anyone has even read it (or whatever else is in their inbox) I think it’s indicative of the fact that Danny’s foundation does not have the manpower to handle the number of inquiries something like this can expect.

    If you set up a non-profit, with donations enabled, then go on the biggest tv show in America and mention your foundation in most, if not all of your interviews, then I suggest you should be ready to handle a tremendous amount of online and e-mail traffic. And, you should most definitely have a board so someone is actually in charge of running this thing.

    This foundation is a mess. And nothing we’ve seen so far indicates that they have any clue what to do with your money once they get it. So, if people are itching to give money away, I’d suggest you give it to a charity that actually knows what the hell it’s doing.

    So again – Gokey Gear guy is most definitly a con artist scumbag. But, Danny’s still a moron.

  • lynniebird7

    Sorry, MJ – I didn’t mean to “finger wag”. I do feel protective towards Danny, though. He seems like he’s trying his best. It just saddens me to see so much disapproval of him as a person. And the name calling. How mature is that?

    I appreciate Dusty’s comments about different personality types. Very insightful. And Lucy’s comments about Danny’s need to take time to grieve. It does seem like he needs to do that.

    All that said, not many can argue that he does have an awesome voice! :)

  • Tara

    What a nightmare. Welcome to the real world Danny. He is gettin some schoolin. He’ll learn. Apparently the hard way, lol. His donating fans will stick by him. He just needs to get it all straight now.

    I didn’t see that comcast as “epic”. Did I miss something? Typical verbal chaos from Danny. Just wow.

    I do wonder, does he talk like this when he is unfiltered? Just hangin with his good buddy Matt? Or is it just when he is guarding and worrying about what to say to be PC?

  • butte009

    I used to beat Danny up. But you know what. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s clear he has a good heart, means well, and is over his head.

    I agree. Unfortunately he’s in WAY over his head. I can see a financial audit in his future. It’s not looking good. Poor guy. But I’ll always hate his shouting… I mean singing.

  • Musica1

    From what I understand, SHF is being run by Sophia’s family right now. They need to just hire professionals who know what they’re doing. He’s got good intentions, but this good end up being very bad if he’s not careful.

  • baxter

    SHF is still trying to reorganize and catch up with all the spotlight that Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s run on AI put on the foundation. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re rebuilding the website, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re still trying to find a building for the foundation, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re still forming the administration board. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just in the beginning and theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been clear about it.

    Trying to reorganize??? This makes it sound as is it was ever organized to begin with…..which it wasn’t. How can you reorganize while still forming an adminstation board. Shouldn’t that have been in place to begin with??? And forget about buying a building. How about producing a mission statment, goals, est. costs, potential programs…etc. Danny needs to hire a professional to run this foundation asap and get this ship righted.

  • Dr. G

    There are a lot of opinions here and I think the facts are needed.
    1). Danny’s foundation was formed before he went on American Idol

    2). He just traveled to Nashville to hire new key people for Sophias Heart Foundation last week

    3). If you have ever run a business you know that these things take time, even when you are working full time on them. I run a small one, and I would say with the exception of the web site not being up to speed yet, I think they are moving along quickly (this last sentence my opinion of course).

    4) An email sent to an organization like the eyeglass guy did (and receiving a “form response” back (which everyone gets BTW) is not considered “contact” with the organization. Danny is correct in this.

    5) In reponse to the critics here who say “Where is the money going and what are the plans”, this has been laid out by Danny; if you don’t follow him you wouldn’t know. He is negotiating with the city of Milwaukee for a particular building for the programs-wants to start a center for performing arts for underprivelaged children. He just received a very large donation from an outing organized by Green Bay Packer Greg Jennings, whose lawyers I would think made sure everything is organized!
    Now my opinion:
    Things are actually progressing quite quickly and organized for the guy being one month off the grueling schedule of Idol.
    Danny is to be commended for quickly cautioning his fans that there are no other official SHF charity ventures yet. As a consumer, I greatly appreciate the warning!!

  • Dr. G

    “Trying to reorganize??? This makes it sound as is it was ever organized to begin withà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..which it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. How can you reorganize while still forming an adminstation board. Shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that have been in place to begin with??? And forget about buying a building. How about producing a mission statment, goals, est. costs, potential programsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦etc. Danny needs to hire a professional to run this foundation asap and get this ship righted.”

    This is what I meant about opinions vs facts. It is easy to criticize when you really don’t know everything about that which you are criticizing.
    The mission statement, goals, programs are clearly laid out on the current SHF website in a very organized manner, as far as different programs pertaining to Medical program, scholarship, music and arts. If you go into each section it explains more, for example the exact criteria for applying for a scholarship. The program has already benefited many; in fact they started a whole music program at an elementary school that was lacking (bought violins and funded music teacher).
    Again, Danny himself traveled to Nashville a week or two ago to hire professionals as you stated.
    Smart organizations “reorganize” all the time as they grow- it is the savvy thing to do and its not always quick or easy, as I can attest since my husband is a manager at a large charity (Humane Sociey).
    It is frustrating that this small charity is having website issues, but hey, I twitter and I can tell you that large, very popular website has daily issues and is commonly down for maintenance and its not even a charity-just sayin I don’t understand the vitriole toward someone who is actually giving their time to do good in the world.

  • lynniebird7

    Thanks for doing your homework, Dr. G! I have been on the Sophia’s Heart website as well – and yes, it is very organized. Danny has stated many times that he knows his place is to vision cast – then hire people who can run the foundation for him. So he knows what he needs to do and is doing it.

  • Tess

    I’ve seen and been around tons of Danny Gokey’s in my life and it isn’t always easy. From every interview, whether print or visual, Danny just regurgitates the same stuff…it’s a broken record. And he totally talks out of turn…”Today I’m supposed to be talking with 19 Records. There’s something in the works right now, and I’m not going to say anything until it’s final. But there’s something going on behind the scenes.” Contract talks and negotiations should be kept solely between the parties involved. It is up to 19 to make a goddamn statement not Danny. And if this falls through he is going to look more like a douchebag.

    Then he talks about DWTS but makes it seem like he is just too busy with his music and his foundation. Get a clue Danny….nobody asked you to be on the show. And then he still thinks he’s going to have a Danny Gokey brand of glasses. Geesh, he can’t find time to put his foundation together and now he is promising a business venture.

    And then on an entertainment interview he markets his foundation and asks for donations and says he is going to sell T-shirts. But the best comment: “I want to live by example and not just my words, because I don’t want to exclude anybody out my message in music” referring to not wanting to do Christian music because then he can’t be an inspiration to everyone.

    He is possibly one of the most clueless persons I have ever come across. The reason I disliked him on Idol was because he holds himself up so high and keeps talking about being an example. And my question has always been an example of what? He just needs to shutup…talk about the Idol tour and what he is going to sing, and where he wants his career to go. If I was 19 I wouldn’t touch hime with a 10 foot pole….he is a disaster that is happening and will continue to happen.

  • agathe.hb

    I read his chat transcript and it seems to me that, like in his singing, Danny is trying to immitate Adam, he even uses the same phrases and expressions (like when he talks about his friendship with Matt or Allison’s being his little sister).
    As for his intentions about foundation, I agree that he seems to be genuine and goodhearted, but reaaaally naive and foolish. I hope he has enough sense to realize his shortcomings and get some professional help and advice pronto.

  • AussieFan

    Hi MJ
    Just saw this blog

    http://www.framesdirectblog.com/framesdirectcom-founder-inspired-by-american-idol-contestants-foundation/

    The founder of the frames direct site had a child affected by a heart defect!

  • Grammie Kari

    The whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“create a foundationà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  thing is coming off as a bit of an ego trip as well as a good intention because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so obvious that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s out of his depth, YKWIM?

    Hopefully, someone will guide him and get this thing running properly. I am sure anyone who has donated money hopes it will actually be used for people who need it. He better make sure there is a data sheet with all the required information.

    I am not buying this “he knows his place is to cast a vision.” His persona does not make any message mean anything to me.

  • JosieX

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen and been around tons of Danny Gokeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s in my life and it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t always easy.

    Yes, me too. I worked as a finance executive for quite a few years for a very big company that bought lots of smaller companies, and was a frequent liasion to the executive staff of the smaller companies throughout the deal. I’m also the treasurer on the board of a non-profit and have served on different committees of others. Quite a few of the most successful entrepreneurs, whether in for-profit companies or non-profit organizations, come across not unlike Danny. Yes, they talk about the same stuff over and over and over, and they’re really excited about it every time. They have all kinds of ideas that they love to talk about. They tend to think out loud quite a bit.

    The ones who achieve and maintain success are the ones who are successful in gaining support for the funding they need and in developing a good team. Danny of course is just starting out, but I certainly do not see him as “clueless” or “foolish”. As Dr. G said, he is hiring help, I recall Danny saying that he was going to meet the new director and accountant. And he is gaining the support of credible people. He has met with the mayor of Milwaukee to discuss his foundation. Milwaukee is not a little podunk town, I just looked it up and it is the 23rd largest city in the U.S. I don’t think the mayor would be interested in a discussion of this nature with a person who lacked credibility. And as mentioned, one of the Green Bay Packers has given a $200K donation to the foundation. To me, these things clearly do not add up to “clueless” and “foolish”. Danny appears to be making real progress.

    Then he talks about DWTS but makes it seem like he is just too busy with his music and his foundation. Get a clue Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.nobody asked you to be on the show.

    He never said they did. From what I recall, he made a joke about being offended by Simon’s dissing of his dance skills, and said something like he should go on DWTS to prove Simon wrong. When people have asked about it he has always said that his music and foundation come first but it’s something he might consider one day if it fit in with the other things he’s doing, essentially a polite answer. I don’t believe he has ever positioned it as anything other than that.

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